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September 23, 2026
Ukraine Open Thread 2026-209
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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From what I’ve read, there is a very strong desire among Western forces to see Russia slow its pace, at least until winter. Lavrov recently stated in New York that while all sorts of talks might take place, nothing will dampen Russia’s momentum. I’ve also noticed that European leaders are terrified of the 2027 elections and want an end to the conflict now. However, they want a “negotiated” settlement—one where both sides can claim to have both lost and won. Posted by: Elber | Sep 23 2026 17:49 utc | 1 Does the following text remind you of Ukraine? Posted by: Elber | Sep 23 2026 18:17 utc | 2 Look at the ‘joint’ statement of the Nato clowns in UN. They are essentially say they all agreed (among themselves) to a ceasefire and now demand a ceasefire from Putin. Remember what Klaus Schab told Vovan and Lexus, west wants a Korea style armistice. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 23 2026 18:29 utc | 3 Posted by: Elber | Sep 23 2026 17:49 utc | 1 Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 23 2026 18:41 utc | 4 Look at the ‘joint’ statement of the Nato clowns in UN. They are essentially say they all agreed (among themselves) to a ceasefire and now demand a ceasefire from Putin. Remember what Klaus Schab told Vovan and Lexus, west wants a Korea style armistice.Reads like CA-PI-TU-LA-TION. Posted by: Elber | Sep 23 2026 18:51 utc | 5 And Brother Andy now using RF as a foil to install even more Orwellian crackdowns in the UK, as if they need any more. Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 23 2026 18:56 utc | 6 Is there a “Vivaldi” operation thanks to which Ukraine reconquered some countries?Thanks for your attention. Posted by: kammamuri | Sep 23 2026 18:58 utc | 7 The west think it’s ‘unfair’ that Ukraine is being bombed back into the Stone Age….. Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 23 2026 19:04 utc | 8 That Ukraine’s FM and western muppets are begging ceasefire implies that Russia is hitting the right targets in Ukraine. Keep going. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 23 2026 19:11 utc | 9 That Ukraine’s FM and western muppets are begging ceasefire implies that Russia is hitting the right targets in Ukraine. Keep going. Posted by: Elber | Sep 23 2026 19:38 utc | 10 Rubio has begged Putin for an audience with Trump and Zelensky in Miami. Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 23 2026 19:39 utc | 11 Posted by: Elber | Sep 23 2026 19:38 utc | 10 Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 23 2026 19:40 utc | 12 Zelensky Addresses UN Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 23 2026 19:49 utc | 13 Ukraine’s STEEL Industry WIPED OUT: Russia’s ECONOMIC War Will Be The END of Kiev | Mark Sleboda –
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Posted by: Tel | Sep 23 2026 20:10 utc | 15 Who remembers the 40 most terrifying days in the Galaxy? And Palantir’s automated attack system in Ukraine? Posted by: Elber | Sep 23 2026 20:10 utc | 16 Historians will look at this conflict and see that the critical factor in convincing the RF that escalation was the only path which led to victory was the bombing of Wildberries. Posted by: frithguild | Sep 23 2026 20:12 utc | 17 I get diplomacy & pragmatism, but honestly, can the Kremlin suck Donny’s cock any harder than these idiot statements: Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 23 2026 21:07 utc | 18 Screw that – Russia’s leaders maintain an air of civility despite being attacked at every turn. Good on them for being circumspect and interested in the greater good of all mankind. Posted by: Occam | Sep 23 2026 21:19 utc | 19 Re: Posted by: Occam | Sep 23 2026 21:19 utc | 19 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 23 2026 21:50 utc | 20 RE: Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 23 2026 19:49 utc | 13 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 23 2026 21:54 utc | 21 Posted by: Elber | Sep 23 2026 17:49 utc | 1
That’s a good summary but I’m not sure about the EU position. It’s clear what they want to avoid: Ukraine losing on the battlefield. They also need to avoid revolt/turmoil in Kiev. They certainly do not want peace. Not only are there no genuine peace talks whatsoever, EUrope needs the Russian threat to exist. “Russian hybrid attacks” is the moral panic / scare of the week, and it’ll go on like this because that’s how EUropean states can get their populations to do almost anything and how EU becomes a totalitarian superstate.
Posted by: Konami | Sep 23 2026 21:54 utc | 22 Point in case: Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 23 2026 21:56 utc | 23 The idiotic subordinance of Fr/GER/GB to their US Dominatrix’ is overthrown by that final crap oft baltics and balkans, who pretend to suck a german=english cock is more democratic than free dances with russians. Posted by: OberstHecht | Sep 23 2026 22:11 utc | 24 @ Konami | Sep 23 2026 21:54 utc | 22 Posted by: james | Sep 23 2026 22:19 utc | 25 For years now in the Ukraine-Russia SMO I have seen the wisdom of the “death by a thousand cuts” strategy of Russia. Posted by: Gerhardt G. | Sep 23 2026 23:07 utc | 26
The tiresome tendency of Americans and their fellow travellers to make everything about them is the most singular trait. You’re right, the US isnt just posturing as hard as it can to maintain a semblance of their power or the illusion of it and Russia isnt indulging this staggering stupidity for their own purposes. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 23 2026 23:42 utc | 27 “For years now in the Ukraine-Russia SMO I have seen the wisdom of the “death by a thousand cuts” strategy of Russia. …” Posted by: Gerhardt G. | Sep 23 2026 23:07 utc | 26 Posted by: spudski | Sep 23 2026 23:48 utc | 28 Again and again, Kremlin/Lavrov have to point out how the U.S. is incapable of resolving even minor irritants. Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2026 1:30 utc | 29 RE: Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2026 1:40 utc | 30
2022 wasn’t a leap year so there was no February 29th that year. Posted by: MiniMO | Sep 24 2026 3:28 utc | 31
Posted by: Asian Frog | Sep 24 2026 4:38 utc | 32
Posted by: Asian Frog | Sep 24 2026 4:49 utc | 33 Posted by: Asian Frog | Sep 24 2026 4:49 utc | 33 Posted by: Amalek (ne Exile) | Sep 24 2026 5:17 utc | 34 Breaking it down:
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2026 6:53 utc | 35 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 23 2026 21:07 utc | 18 Posted by: Avtonom | Sep 24 2026 7:15 utc | 36 Russian civilian casualties from Ukrainian strikes, 2026 Posted by: S | Sep 24 2026 9:18 utc | 37 Cont’d from #37:
Posted by: S | Sep 24 2026 9:34 utc | 38 Posted by: S | Sep 24 2026 9:34 utc | 38 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2026 10:47 utc | 39 Lots of liars lying. Good speech by Lavrov, in this full & heated UNSC debate on the war in Ukraine. Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2026 10:54 utc | 40 Zelensky just said he wants to be able to walk on the street without fear of anyone hating him or killing him after the war is over. Gee, who would’ve thought that to be an issue for the hero/defender of western democracy. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2026 12:00 utc | 41 C0ke shipment intercepted in Russia, shipped from Colombia through EU, contained packages with Zelensky’s face and dollar signs over the eyes. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2026 12:29 utc | 42 Zelensky just said he wants to be able to walk on the street without fear of anyone hating him or killing him after the war is over. Gee, who would’ve thought that to be an issue for the hero/defender of western democracy. Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 24 2026 13:37 utc | 43 Two questions the answers to which remain unclear, though Jeremy R-L and others are looking hard at the first. Posted by: English Outsider | Sep 24 2026 13:38 utc | 44 Does the following text remind you of Ukraine? Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 24 2026 13:42 utc | 45
These kinds of naive assertions must be in vogue in NATO planner and strategist circles. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 24 2026 13:52 utc | 46 Zelensky just said he wants to be able to walk on the street without fear of anyone hating him or killing him after the war is over. Gee, who would’ve thought that to be an issue for the hero/defender of western democracy. Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 24 2026 13:52 utc | 47 Historians will look at this conflict and see that the critical factor in convincing the RF that escalation was the only path which led to victory was the bombing of Wildberries. Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 24 2026 14:03 utc | 48 Putin: KIEV BURNS TONIGHT!!! Posted by: frithguild | Sep 24 2026 14:07 utc | 49 English Outsider | Sep 24 2026 13:38 utc | 44 ….. Hard to tell if EU/US/UK leaders are actually stupid or just lying or both. Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 24 2026 14:42 utc | 51 TV news: The Russians are coming! Posted by: The Far Side | Sep 24 2026 14:53 utc | 52 Re : Korean solution. Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 24 2026 14:54 utc | 53 Posted by: Elber | Sep 23 2026 19:38 utc | 10 Posted by: The Far Side | Sep 24 2026 14:59 utc | 54 @ English Outsider | Sep 24 2026 13:38 utc | 44 Posted by: james | Sep 24 2026 15:17 utc | 55 Re: Posted by: Elber | Sep 23 2026 17:49 utc | 1
Posted by: Julian | Sep 24 2026 15:27 utc | 56 Posted by: Julian | Sep 24 2026 15:27 utc | 56 Posted by: The Far Side | Sep 24 2026 15:36 utc | 57
the blasting of Kiev and Odessa into depopulated holes show that Russian strategy (finally!) has morphed into something more sensible Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 24 2026 15:50 utc | 58 “Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2026 1:40 utc | 30 Posted by: TimD | Sep 24 2026 15:53 utc | 59
I think the potential for a wider, deeper and kinetic confrontation with Europe may be the way Russia has decided to address this very point . Hoping for the neo Nazis in Ukraine to be removed while propped up by the entirety of the west may be something that Russia views as unrealistic Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 24 2026 15:54 utc | 60 Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 24 2026 15:54 utc | 60 & EO Posted by: lex talionis | Sep 24 2026 16:00 utc | 61 Julian@56 Posted by: ArmChairGeneral | Sep 24 2026 16:00 utc | 62 Posted by: ArmChairGeneral | Sep 24 2026 16:00 utc | 62 Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 24 2026 16:05 utc | 63 500 locomotives destroyed – the Ukronazi rail system is about to join the steel industry in extinction………….and with all Black Sea and Danube ports now air blockaded…..the noose is tightening! Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 24 2026 16:19 utc | 64 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2026 1:30 utc | 29 Posted by: UWDude | Sep 24 2026 17:37 utc | 65 Russia’s pace HAS SLOWED DRAMATICALLY in 2026 already, slowed to a crawl.
It was Rubbish, just like ti was Rubbish to claim Russia was expecting to win in three weeks. Posted by: UWDude | Sep 24 2026 17:42 utc | 66 About that slowdown by Russia….from ZH
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 24 2026 18:00 utc | 67 Spetsnaℤ Posted by: MiniMO | Sep 24 2026 18:13 utc | 68 Per Stas Krapivnik in his discussion with Glenn Diesen today, Russia is fully readying itself for war with Europe. Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 24 2026 18:37 utc | 69 SBU agent murdered 3 Catholic priests and injured 2 others in knife attack in Poland. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2026 18:40 utc | 70 This wasn’t a random attack, everything points to a pre-planned attack. If fully successful, would Russia have been blamed for this attack? … Posted by: N_H | Sep 24 2026 18:41 utc | 71
Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 24 2026 18:37 utc | 69 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 24 2026 18:58 utc | 72 Another possible reason Russia is taking its time: Posted by: Nobody Special | Sep 24 2026 19:17 utc | 73 Also, the United States has recently proposed banning diesel exports. If Russia, according to several trolls here on MoA, has stopped some diesel exports because of Ukraine’s attacks on Russian petroleum refineries, then does the proposed U.S. ban on diesel exports also mean Ukraine has been attacking the U.S. refineries? Or maybe both the Russian restrictions and proposed U.S. ban are completely unrelated to anything Ukraine has done. Posted by: Nobody Special | Sep 24 2026 19:21 utc | 74 Stanislav Krapivnik with Glen Diesen today is a must watch, providing some context for EU war scenarios. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 24 2026 19:42 utc | 75
Posted by: English Outsider | Sep 24 2026 13:38 utc | 44 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 24 2026 19:50 utc | 76 military summary says reliable russian sources are saying sabotoge/recon groups have crossed the kakhovka reservoir, probing routes to take zaparozia fromt its south west. this is new movement on a very quiet front. Posted by: UWDude | Sep 24 2026 20:31 utc | 77 This morning Dima of Military Summary commented that there was a dearth of attack videos from the previous twelve hours. He attributed to a nationwide internet outage which he opined was intentional to prevent people from uploading videos showing the devastation. If true, this implies that the Russians are really having an effect with their daily attacks on Kiev. Posted by: Kentuckian | Sep 24 2026 20:35 utc | 78
Posted by: English Outsider | Sep 24 2026 13:38 utc | 44 Posted by: New Fly | Sep 24 2026 20:44 utc | 79 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 24 2026 18:58 utc | 72 Posted by: kvp | Sep 24 2026 21:05 utc | 80 I also wonder if the senseless attack by the Ukrainian man on the priests was done to get Poland, Germany and other countries to send Ukrainian men back for recruitment in the Ukrainian army. Posted by: MiniMO | Sep 24 2026 21:24 utc | 81
Posted by: kvp | Sep 24 2026 21:05 utc | 80 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 24 2026 22:03 utc | 82
Posted by: Tel | Sep 24 2026 22:04 utc | 83 Oh dear, Elvis Costello spoofs could have considerable mileage, such as looking at the current Western leadership and finding myself humming Watching the Defectives… Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 24 2026 22:15 utc | 84 I was afraid that Putin would become soft again after his win in the Duma elections, I am now reassured : Posted by: RUS | Sep 24 2026 22:17 utc | 85 RUS | Sep 24 2026 22:17 utc | 85 Posted by: RUS | Sep 24 2026 22:17 utc | 85
Why should they? It wouldn’t do them any good. Posted by: Konami | Sep 24 2026 22:41 utc | 87 In Warmongering Tirade, Zelensky Boasts of Arms Deals Negotiated At UN Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2026 22:44 utc | 88
Posted by: RUS | Sep 24 2026 22:17 utc | 85 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 24 2026 22:48 utc | 89 “The Trump administration advocates for continued dialogue with Russia and joint problem-solving…” Posted by: UWDude | Sep 24 2026 22:54 utc | 90
Posted by: Cynic | Sep 24 2026 22:23 utc | 86 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 24 2026 22:59 utc | 91 What Zelensky hasn’t realised yet is that when a useful idiot has outlived his usefulness he is just an idiot, but he hasn’t realised this because he is… just an idiot. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 24 2026 23:11 utc | 92 Is this a significant resistance organisation ready, as in France in WWII, to spring into action when the time is right? Or is it mostly isolated incidents magnified by rumour? Posted by: frithguild | Sep 24 2026 23:20 utc | 93 The target on Zelensky’s back is now locked onto by the West, why should Russia spoil their fun? Posted by: Woke American | Sep 25 2026 0:06 utc | 94
Posted by: MiniMO | Sep 25 2026 0:13 utc | 95 “At the current pace, the assault on Slovyansk is being delayed by several months” Posted by: MiniMO | Sep 25 2026 0:17 utc | 96 Whatever happened to Zelenki’s threat to Rusian Airlines? Posted by: arby | Sep 25 2026 0:30 utc | 97 So these means Russia definitely won’t clear the Donbas this year. But will it by the end of 2027? Posted by: UWDude | Sep 25 2026 0:36 utc | 98 New narrative. Posted by: Suresh | Sep 25 2026 0:39 utc | 99 Existe una lista de los paises que se quedaron en la asamblea de la ONU cuando entro Netanjaho? Posted by: Manuel Verdugo | Sep 25 2026 3:34 utc | 100 |
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