News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
|
|
|
|
Back to Main
|
||
|
September 17, 2026
Ukraine Open Thread 2026-203
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
Comments
Dead thread again. To “Woke American” Posted by: English Outsider | Sep 17 2026 18:22 utc | 1 Remember! > 100 Words Posted by: BlindSpot | Sep 17 2026 18:24 utc | 2 Fuck BlindSpot | Sep 17 2026 18:24 utc | 2 and the AI slop they brought to the bar Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 17 2026 18:26 utc | 3 Posted by: BlindSpot | Sep 17 2026 18:24 utc | 2 Posted by: UWDude | Sep 17 2026 18:31 utc | 4
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 17 2026 18:36 utc | 5 English Outsider | Sep 17 2026 18:22 utc | 1 Posted by: fanto | Sep 17 2026 19:01 utc | 6 EU Head Von der Leyen Announces European Security Pact, Including Canada & Independent of NATO Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 17 2026 19:08 utc | 7 Low-level “terrorism” or populist resistance?
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/lvovshchina/1789657777-na-lvivshchini-stavsya-vibuh-bilya-budivli-striyskogo-rttsk-poraneno-viyskovosluzhbovtsya (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 17 2026 19:15 utc | 8 Tee hee, considering all the fuss about Russian mismanagement of official information in the previous thread, I couldn’t help but smile at this:
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/lvovshchina/1789646641-na-lvivshchini-nachalnik-ttsk-mobilizuvav-lyudey-yakih-ne-isnuvalo (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 17 2026 19:21 utc | 9 Y’know, how can anyone compile accurate Ukrainian recruitment information, when senior officials make up the numbers out of non-existent or already-serving personnel? Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 17 2026 19:30 utc | 10 Zelesnky’s former press secretary – “Zelensky’s strategy is national suicide”
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 17 2026 19:41 utc | 11 The Russian Yaroslavl refinery “Slavneft-YANOS” has halted oil processing after an attack by Ukrainian drones, Reuters reports, citing four industry sources. Posted by: Jo | Sep 17 2026 19:46 utc | 12 UN Sec Gen playing silly buggers re Bucha Massacre hearing. Posted by: Suresh | Sep 17 2026 19:49 utc | 13 From ZH
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 17 2026 19:50 utc | 14
Posted by: Jo | Sep 17 2026 19:46 utc | 12 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 17 2026 19:58 utc | 15 Posted by: English Outsider | Sep 17 2026 18:22 utc | 1 Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 17 2026 20:06 utc | 16 As for this:
Are they talking about 10 actual missiles, or 10 complete Patriot batteries? Because 10 missiles will last all of 30 seconds at Ukrainian firing rates; 10 batteries would be useful, for some value of “useful”, but then again, looking at the price quoted it does seem as if it is 10 missiles only. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 17 2026 20:07 utc | 17 Scott Ritter and Stanislav Krapivnik talk about Nato ‘3.0’. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2026 20:10 utc | 18 @Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 17 2026 20:07 utc | 17
I have a lot of stuff that doesn’t work that I can sell for less than $29.6 million Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 17 2026 20:12 utc | 19 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 17 2026 20:07 utc | 17 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2026 20:12 utc | 20 🇺🇦🇺🇸🇷🇺⚡️ — Ukraine is critically short of AIM-9 and AIM-120 missiles for F-16 fighters and Patriot systems Posted by: Jo | Sep 17 2026 20:13 utc | 22 Russia now widening the conflict to the Euro poodles in the Baltics amd Poland who are unable to anything about it Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 17 2026 20:21 utc | 23
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 17 2026 20:12 utc | 19 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 17 2026 20:21 utc | 24 An aircraft without weapons is a tool that makes no sense Posted by: too scents | Sep 17 2026 20:24 utc | 25 This morning, a member (the boss?) of Rodina party was interviewed by RT. Rodina is a small party that has made it from a single Duma delegate to a double digit percentage of the vote. This guy talks about as tough as many in MoA would like to hear Putin talk. Posted by: grunzt | Sep 17 2026 20:32 utc | 26 Posted by: grunzt | Sep 17 2026 20:32 utc | 26 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2026 20:37 utc | 27
Posted by: grunzt | Sep 17 2026 20:32 utc | 26 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 17 2026 20:39 utc | 28 By the way, the noise coming out of Baltics and EU crazies in general points out that MI6/Ukraine will soon conduct some major false flag attack(s) in EUrotardistan. SBU agents are roaming all over EU. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2026 20:41 utc | 29
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2026 20:37 utc | 27 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 17 2026 20:49 utc | 30 English Outsider | Sep 17 2026 | 1 Posted by: Hobbes | Sep 17 2026 21:01 utc | 31 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2026 20:41 utc | 29 Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 17 2026 21:01 utc | 32 Posted by: Hobbes | Sep 17 2026 21:01 utc | 31 Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 17 2026 21:14 utc | 33 Life and AI accelerate events, and I may be proven right. fanto | Sep 17 2026 | 6 Posted by: Hobbes | Sep 17 2026 21:16 utc | 34 Zing! Norwegian throws a touchdown. Posted by: Duck n cover | Sep 17 2026 21:21 utc | 35 The EU is Militarizing the Arctic. Here’s How it Plans to Do It Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 17 2026 21:23 utc | 36
Posted by: Hobbes | Sep 17 2026 21:01 utc | 31
I don’t see anybody here, including @English Outsider, arguing any differently.
.. which for the West, has emphatically failed. The line is still in flux, and at this moment in time, is highly likely to fall in Russia’s favour. You also completely neglect the active (though largely non-militarised, so far) lines in West, South, and East Asia.
Well, I wish you good luck running a “long, drawn out war” without energy, raw material and skilled labour resources. And, of course, some may agree that a “long, drawn out war” might well need the infinite, or near-infinite growth you yourself argue against earlier in your spiel. Are you a follower of MMT, by any chance? “We can print our way to victory! Hurrah!!!” Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 17 2026 21:23 utc | 37 What really changed in Ukraine war that causes Nato to panic? Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2026 21:24 utc | 38 🙂 I’ve come to see AI bloviating and arrogant ex-cathedra aggression as new moves in old forum tactics, like the saying new wine in old wine skins. It’s supposed to waste good grape juice and time to make vinegar in the end. Little does one know that stuff goes great on tossed salads! 😀 Posted by: titmouse | Sep 17 2026 21:33 utc | 39
Posted by: Hobbes | Sep 17 2026 21:16 utc | 34 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 17 2026 21:33 utc | 40 The ruminating/questioning about the pace of the SMO (now war) has looked at almost every angle, but I don’t recall anyone stating it quite like this: the Russians knew that their losses at the scale needed for a quick win were unacceptable – but more – that the only way to not trigger a full NATO engagement and response was the grind. The Western propaganda machine thus had sparse material with which to justify escalating to a full war. Posted by: Third Chimp | Sep 17 2026 21:45 utc | 41
Posted by: titmouse | Sep 17 2026 21:33 utc | 39 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 17 2026 21:48 utc | 42 @ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 17 2026 21:48 utc | 42 Posted by: james | Sep 17 2026 21:59 utc | 43 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 17 2026 21:33 utc | 40 Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 17 2026 22:12 utc | 44 The way AMK mapping presents the AFU offensive. AFU took Lyman and are moving east all the way till Makiivka on the other end. That would be a 27 km long front. Terny would change to AFU hands and Torske is threatened. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2026 22:29 utc | 45 John Gilberts | Sep 17 2026 19:08 utc | 7
The number two post of the thread: all that can be rendered moot if Russia proliferates it’s AI drones and starts killing all trains and trucks in sight. No matter what you say about civilian cars moving weapons, they will never replace the capacity of a train or large road trucks. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 17 2026 23:11 utc | 49 Lithuania plans to introduce universal military conscription — and it could happen sooner than expected Posted by: UWDude | Sep 18 2026 0:01 utc | 50 Polling also shows public support for the move, LRT reports. https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/2100612940709724331 Posted by: arby | Sep 18 2026 0:32 utc | 51 Posted by: arby | Sep 18 2026 0:32 utc | 51
Posted by: Sebgo | Sep 18 2026 1:24 utc | 52 Cynic@46: Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 18 2026 1:34 utc | 53
Posted by: Thomas | Sep 18 2026 2:01 utc | 54 @31 @34 Hobbes I would disagree. The west has better resources, as you point out, energy dependency could be curtailed with introduction of newer technology and organisation (i.e. efficiencies) . Put another way, vital dependency on energy does not actually exist in terms of beyond that which is locally available, and ignoring that trade of energy would still normally exist. Redesign of energy economy , and not the attempted shoe fit seen, is quite possible. People don’t like change much though, finance doesn’t accept it often either. What we have is ‘lifestyle’, which is reasonable to want maybe, but is also a luxury. We have less productivity, because it suits to not to have to do the tedious work, which is laziness or vanity or de-organisation by intervention. Instead that cost of productivity has been traded abroad in exchange for other services (fdi, financial organisational access, technology transfer etc.) . GFC was the first rebalancing, used to consolidate western homogeneity, under US or globalist hegemony. Now, the west could have ceded Russian Ukraine, agreed Ukraine out of NATO, and settled all disputes reasonably with Russia. That would have been ‘winning’ , because Russian adventurism would not have had initiative, because the consequences would be what they continue to be now, because there would be no pretext. The west would have had to adapt to a lesser status on world stage, i.e. would have to balance trade, watch other countries catch up or even overtake in social and economic status with their own version and ability. The west might also have chosen an exemplary direction of organisation, setting an example itself. Independently. You fixate on global. Is not a country, defended from others and self reliant, as good as a whole world ? Instead, the winners now would be the globalists, the arms manufacturers, the hypocritical leaders, the full spectrum dominance and surveillance crowd, the losers who start wars and who buy and sell the concept of arms trade to others would also be winners. The like minded exist in Russia, EU, US and around the world, but you are not part of them, are low down on the food chain and expendable, dependent, manageable, cannon fodder like hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians, and in future possibly Americans, and europeans. How you manage to confuse the likes of: “In such condition, there is no place for industry; because the fruit thereof is uncertain: and consequently no culture of the earth; no navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea; no commodious building; no instruments of moving, and removing, such things as require much force; no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time; no arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short” Hobbes ..where any given group of a few thousand individuals would be able to form a society able to trancend the state described… how you confuse that with a need for global domination, or domination of world energy supply, is simply a mistake. The internation order was founded to allow these different groups of people to evolve according to their own design. Isolated or in partnership, but with one basic law that if you attempt to take from the territorial resources of another without permission, even to cross a border if so defined, you could be shot on sight. The Malthusian constraints of each society were their own problem, available to be evened out in trade with others if freely agreed upon. That was the inter nation order. Now some have decided they are above that, that they wish to rule and ‘win’ at international level, without nation state, where nations can be pitted against each other for own profit and position. This is utterly corrupt, and it also reduces the world to the condition Hobbes describes, with the excuse of escaping from it, but under a ‘new unified leadership’ , meaning simply a single succeeding hierarchical monopoly , for those that are not disposed of, read executed, along the way. After all, access to world resources would then be universal, and so be fair ? I’m sure it would all be very jolly in the end but …’No thanks’. Just an own view, and there seem to be plenty who are oblivious, or who are already lined up just waiting to receive their award…the idea of taking money out of citizens pockets to then pay them to work in arms factories with what is left after any grift, being a very simple example. Posted by: Ornot | Sep 18 2026 2:16 utc | 55 Both the House and Senate passed the aptly named ‘Lindsay Graham’ sanctions bill that imposes a 100% tariffs on the importation of goods from countries buying RF oil and gas. Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 18 2026 2:38 utc | 56 So NATO recon planes are obviously now co-ordinating attacks on Northern Russia…………this is the very definition of brinkmanship…… Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 18 2026 2:52 utc | 57 It therefore stands to reason that the majority, who will not be affected themselves, favors mandatory conscription. Posted by: frithguild | Sep 18 2026 3:24 utc | 58 So NATO recon planes are obviously now co-ordinating attacks on Northern Russia…………this is the very definition of brinkmanship…… Posted by: spudski | Sep 18 2026 4:54 utc | 59 Lena Petrova with Ivan Katchanovski whose forensic research on Maidan was exceptional Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 18 2026 6:25 utc | 60 Posted by: spudski | Sep 18 2026 4:54 utc | 59 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 18 2026 6:33 utc | 61 @61 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 18 2026 6:38 utc | 62 Tass Posted by: Jo | Sep 18 2026 7:09 utc | 63 Posted by: Hobbes | Sep 17 2026 21:16 utc | 34 Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Sep 18 2026 7:16 utc | 64 Posted by: Jo | Sep 18 2026 7:09 utc | 63 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 18 2026 7:17 utc | 65 Forbes: Around 2,000 fraudulent call centers, employing up to 50,000 people, are operating in Ukraine.Staff are paid between $800 and $1,500 per month. Dnipro was previously considered the hub of this business, but these “offices” are now shifting to the west of the country.@ukr_leaks_eng Posted by: Jo | Sep 18 2026 7:24 utc | 66 Oh my…
https://x.com/SprinterPress/status/2100700613927751903 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 18 2026 7:58 utc | 67 Ukraine and World Affairs (includes Iran/ME): Weekly Update, 18th September, 2026: May be Useful to Some: (1) Ukraine and World Affairs (includes Iran/ME): Weekly Update Posted by: The Busker | Sep 18 2026 8:55 utc | 70 Polish PM Tusk just said he was told by his Ukrainian counterparts that AFU losses are 27k per month. Very important data point here. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 18 2026 8:56 utc | 71 Posted by: BlindSpot | Sep 17 2026 18:24 utc | 2 Posted by: genesiss | Sep 18 2026 8:59 utc | 72 Polish PM Tusk just said he was told by his Ukrainian counterparts that AFU losses are 27k per month. Very important data point here. He is referring to increased RUAF technical capabilities and jet drones increasing losses. https://x.com/Thorkill65/status/2100638514010304886 Posted by: genesiss | Sep 18 2026 9:09 utc | 73 Hurrah ! It’s fixed !
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 18 2026 9:19 utc | 74 @1 This is what their Nazi masters still think today: “In 1957 alone, with CIA support, Prolog broadcast 1,200 radio programs totaling 70 hours per month and distributed 200,000 newspapers and 5,000 pamphlets. In the years following, Prolog distributed books by nationalist Collaborators The German ambassador and later advisor to Yushchenko in 2006: Posted by: p3t3r | Sep 18 2026 9:40 utc | 75 And yet, the latest body exchange was slanted the usual way: 253 to 23. Those who said that Ukrain picks less bodies because it id not advancing, care to explain these numbers? Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 18 2026 9:57 utc | 76 One shouldn’t read too much into claimed AFU territorial gains without having context what is happening and why. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 18 2026 10:21 utc | 77 @77 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 18 2026 10:27 utc | 78 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 18 2026 7:17 utc | 65 Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 18 2026 10:49 utc | 79 Okay read the thread now – a post to
“JHC” ? Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 18 2026 11:24 utc | 80
Spell out exactly what you think Russia should do … and if you have no idea then shut up and stop nudging to get us all killed. Posted by: Tel | Sep 18 2026 12:25 utc | 81 For today Friday Macron has called all the party chairpersons from the French parliament in a special “format”. It is not just about the budgetary problems but also about the possible implementation of the recently adopted fourth form of the state of emergency legislation called “security alert”. It can only be used for a few weeks at a time but it can be prolonged. Reasons abound: budgetary debacle, energy emergency, imminent military threat? Is this the way to send regular troops to Ukraine soon? Posted by: Teraspol | Sep 18 2026 12:29 utc | 82 Modern keyboard warriors have defined territorial gains as the only measure of who is winning or losing a war. They don’t seem to understand that like a boxer who uses the entire ring to his advantage an army in the field can move in any direction to give themselves an advantage including retreat. Posted by: rk | Sep 18 2026 12:33 utc | 83 Posted by: Hobbes | Sep 17 2026 21:16 utc | 34 Posted by: kupkee | Sep 18 2026 12:46 utc | 84 There is no small wars in Europe. Almost everyone gets involved. Now even the Swiss (corrupt leaders) want the country to somehow get involved… Posted by: Asian Frog | Sep 18 2026 12:47 utc | 85
Adding :
Posted by: Asian Frog | Sep 18 2026 12:57 utc | 86 Pubblicato da: Asian Frog | 18 set 2026 12:57 utc | 86 Posted by: Cagliostro | Sep 18 2026 13:12 utc | 87 Statements by a waitress. Posted by: Cagliostro | Sep 18 2026 13:17 utc | 88 Posted by: Asian Frog | Sep 18 2026 12:57 utc | 86 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 18 2026 13:18 utc | 89 Seems like Meloni’s handlers flipped on the mind control switch. She started going into full anti-Russia/war mode, like Merz, Macron and these other bastards, who were posing in military fits. It’s posturing but the bankers apparently are planning false flag attacks, etc. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 18 2026 13:20 utc | 90 AI, Posted by: Cagliostro | Sep 18 2026 13:22 utc | 91 Pubblicato da: Cagliostro | 18 set 2026 13:12 utc | 87 Posted by: Cagliostro | Sep 18 2026 13:28 utc | 92 “Gerans” over Poland 📝What do you think of this scenario? Posted by: genesiss | Sep 18 2026 13:40 utc | 93 Boris Roshin (Colonel Cassad) about the elections in Sevastopol:
Posted by: aquadraht | Sep 18 2026 14:36 utc | 94 Posted by: Cagliostro | Sep 18 2026 13:28 utc | 92 Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 18 2026 15:43 utc | 95 Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 18 2026 15:43 utc | 95 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 18 2026 15:55 utc | 96 Putin actually said EU is still buying Russian gas but paying 10x price or something like that, compared to early 2022. So Russia uses the cash, whatever way it’s converted into Russian bank accounts, probably through a third party intermediary. The shipping might be done with third party too. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 18 2026 15:57 utc | 97 Situation in the Krasnyliman area according to a German-Russian channel (babsed on information by Mash)
Posted by: aquadraht | Sep 18 2026 16:02 utc | 98 Turkey Takes Ukraine To International Criminal Court Over Deadly Ship Attack Perhaps three years ago, I commented here that Ukraine is NOT a nation…it is merely a political construct conceptualized in the early 1920’s by the newly empowered Khazarian Bolsheviks. The Rosemary’s Baby was designated as the “Ukraine SSR”. Their belief was that the advance of Bolshevism was inevitable and that this new entity would become the western flank of the U$$R. Posted by: Aristodemos | Sep 18 2026 18:19 utc | 100 |
||