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September 6, 2026
Ukraine Open Thread 2026-194
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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They can now tell trump “If we get to the point of the meeting, the Russian side provided clear and comprehensive assessments of the situation regarding the special military operation’s developments,” he stated. https://tass.com/politics/2183269
Posted by: Newbie | Sep 6 2026 10:26 utc | 1 Ukraine and World Affairs (includes Iran/ME): Weekly Update, 4th September, 2026: May be Useful to Some: Ukraine and World Affairs (includes Iran/ME): Weekly Update Posted by: The Busker | Sep 6 2026 10:29 utc | 2
Posted by: acementhead | Sep 6 2026 11:08 utc | 3 The US saying that next steps will come in the following weeks. Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 6 2026 11:31 utc | 4 Well, much as expected the two Kosher cowboys met with Putin and nothing much happened. At least that’s what we’re being told. Posted by: Kentuckian | Sep 6 2026 11:39 utc | 5 Military Summary provides some good coverage of the meeting between Putin and the Kosher Cowboys. Apparently the dynamic duo are now off to Kiev to meet with Zelensky: Posted by: Kentuckian | Sep 6 2026 12:10 utc | 6 I have to wonder how such a long meeting goes on. Is there an agenda? A good one? The Trumpicans seem so disorganized I wonder if they plan well. I say this as a Trumpican…but it pains me how lazy and sloppy they are…just to do basic staff work. And even if the principles don’t craft the agenda they should know they need one, edit a proposal, share it wtih Russians ahead of time (maybe some format of half is our time, half is yours). Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 6 2026 12:22 utc | 7 Reading the TAC report, it sounds like the Americans are basically shopping a “split the baby” solution to both sides. As they sort of have been all war. It’s not going to be a solution either side will like…but something middle-ish. Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 6 2026 12:32 utc | 8 More relevant here, in the context of the confrontation between Russia and the West, than in the Iran section to which the comment was submitted. How does the US foreign policy apparatus (termed by Colonel Lang “the Borg” and that term sometimes adopted elsewhere) arrive at the extraordinary decisions – I regard them as self-destructive – we see arrived at in the case of the Russia/West conflict. Posted by: English Outsider | Sep 6 2026 12:40 utc | 9 Lavrov rasing the heat today, saying that Germany has moved to a position of real war with Russia Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 6 2026 12:47 utc | 10 Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 6 2026 12:32 utc | 8 Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 6 2026 12:53 utc | 11
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Sep 6 2026 13:07 utc | 12 Any fool knows that the hypothetical “split the baby” scenario would be temporary. Those advocating it are wagering that a post-Putin government will be very different. Possible but unlikely. Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Sep 6 2026 13:27 utc | 13 Posted by: Cagliostro | Sep 6 2026 13:33 utc | 14 The Russian cargo ship, Lady Maria has been hit by several kamikaze drones in the Western Med today. This time near Crete. Ukrainians or “Ukrainians” (US, MI6, Greek spooks etc) seem to have done these operations from Greece at least once before hitting another ship. Posted by: Altai | Sep 6 2026 13:54 utc | 15 Night…yes…issues will remain. they do in Korea also. Heck…they do in Formasa! Or even between Iraq and Iran (during the 90s). Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 6 2026 13:54 utc | 16 Russia can trade with any country in the world it wants to, save Europe. And Europe is a dying entity. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 6 2026 14:10 utc | 17 Pubblicato da: Anonimo | 6 settembre 2026 13:54 UTC | 16 Posted by: Cagliostro | Sep 6 2026 14:19 utc | 18 Woke up this morning with a bad case of the CTs from trying to figure out what is really goiing on. Posted by: john brewster | Sep 6 2026 14:33 utc | 19 The Russian cargo ship, Lady Maria has been hit by several kamikaze drones in the Western Med today. This time near Crete. Ukrainians or “Ukrainians” (US, MI6, Greek spooks etc) seem to have done these operations from Greece at least once before hitting another ship. Posted by: rk | Sep 6 2026 14:38 utc | 20 Anyone want to talk me down off the ledge? Posted by: Elber | Sep 6 2026 14:43 utc | 21 The sole root cause is the US determination to destroy Russia and take all its stuff – acementhead | Sep 6 2026 3 Posted by: Hobbes | Sep 6 2026 14:45 utc | 22 Meanwhile British, French and German national security advisers are in Kyiv on Sunday, ahead of talks between the US and Ukraine, a source has claimed. Posted by: Jo | Sep 6 2026 14:48 utc | 23 Posted by: Elber | Sep 6 2026 14:43 utc | 20 Posted by: john brewster | Sep 6 2026 14:50 utc | 24 Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 6 2026 13:54 utc | 16 Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 6 2026 14:58 utc | 25 And if this really is a stable, unremarkable stalemate, why are Tokayev and Modi suddenly intervening publicly and calling for an end to it? Why did CIA Director John Ratcliffe abruptly travel to Russia? These are not the actions of governments unconcerned by a frozen and predictable conflict. They strongly suggest that influential capitals are alarmed by its direction and are trying to arrest a further escalation. Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 6 2026 15:03 utc | 26
Posted by: malenkov | Sep 6 2026 15:09 utc | 27 more worthless talk from the powerless orange puppet. There will be no peace, this whole trip was just a cover to get a couple days of ceasefire in Kiev so they can restore order in the coup government and resolve the back and forth murders between the SBU and GRU. The war will continue until Kiev’s government collapses which is looking to be sometime in 2027, or maybe even 2028. Actually, I remember in 2024 there was a leak report that said the Russian Military was planning to continue to the war till mid-late 2027 which at the time I thought was a ridiculous timeframe and that Ukraine could never endure such losses (material, manpower and financial) to last that long, but it looks like that assessment was very accurate. We’ll probably never know how much money was stolen and laundered through Ukraine, but it must be more than trillion dollars by now, since 2022 the US has given at least 500 billion in direct funding, the EU brags that they have *almost* matched US monetary contributions (lets say 350 billion), the IMF gave $20 billion, world bank about 90 billion. Trump is also saying that the US gave $300 billion worth of US military equipment under Biden. Plus the US and EU gave complete access to their various satellite networks (which would include management and maintenance cost coverage). The EU completely emptied their Cold War soviet arms caches to give to Ukraine, all combined this represents not just trillions of dollars but also decades of industrial output which will never be recreated or replaced. that would explain the current economic crisis impacting the Collective West as our society has lost trillions of manhours of productive labour which has not been reinvested into society (perhaps more than two decades worth of production). Posted by: Kadath | Sep 6 2026 15:10 utc | 28
That is bullshit. It was more than 2 months after the abortion of the hapless “rebellion” when Prigozhin and the other passengers died in a crash of his Embraer plane. Russian investigation asserted that a hand grenade had been exploded on board of that plane. Of course, there are speculations that Patrushev and his branch were behind the liquidation. Posted by: aquadraht | Sep 6 2026 15:17 utc | 29 Posted by: Kadath | Sep 6 2026 15:10 utc | 27 Posted by: john brewster | Sep 6 2026 15:22 utc | 30 Is this all Russia is going to report on for a week? Putin, & his date with his Zio mistresses? Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 6 2026 15:23 utc | 31 Kremlin Sees ‘Atmosphere of Trust’ in Putin’s Talks with Witkoff & Kushner Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 6 2026 15:51 utc | 32 To the Antisemites. Sixth columners, armchair generals and diplomats and other scum here in the bar: Posted by: aquadraht | Sep 6 2026 15:54 utc | 33 Relax, Russia knows their game. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 6 2026 15:56 utc | 34 To the Antisemites. Sixth columners, armchair generals and diplomats and other scum here in the bar. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 6 2026 15:59 utc | 35 And as long as Putin continues to hope for business dealings with the US, the US will continue to foment Russia’s destruction;if you don’t stop a cat from hunting birds and mice, it will continue its work undeterred. Posted by: pinche | Sep 6 2026 16:19 utc | 36 this mega hit song is relevant because it iconography highlights the Russian narrative. Vital to understand Posted by: Exile | Sep 6 2026 16:39 utc | 37
Posted by: malenkov | Sep 6 2026 16:44 utc | 38 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 6 2026 15:59 utc | 34
Fuck off, Ahenobastard! This is the second time you’ve been using the “zio gimp” label as a cheap attack. The fact that somebody disagrees with you does not make them agents of Israel. You are the traitor! Posted by: Konami | Sep 6 2026 17:02 utc | 39 @ pinche | Sep 6 2026 16:19 utc | 35 Posted by: malenkov | Sep 6 2026 17:04 utc | 40 Regarding the “talks” and the upcoming visit of EUropean heads to Kyiv, something more important than the war is going on: the power struggle in Kyiv is coming to a head. The parties are Zelenksi/SBU, Budanov/GUR, Fedorov/EU, Zalushny/UK. NABU, the US-led “anti-corruption agency” has started a broadside against Team Zelenski. I believe this must be resolved before anything else can happen. If you want more background and a timeline, Thomas Röper just published that on Anti-Spiegel: https://anti-spiegel.ru/2026/die-chronologie-der-eskalation-der-innenpolitischen-krise-in-der-ukraine/ Posted by: Konami | Sep 6 2026 17:09 utc | 41 https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-ukrainians-in-canada-and-abroad-should-they-stay-or-should-they-go/ Posted by: PoliSci | Sep 6 2026 17:28 utc | 42 Inserito da: pizzico | 6 settembre 2026 16:19 utc | 35 Posted by: Cagliostro | Sep 6 2026 17:30 utc | 43 Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 6 2026 12:22 utc | 7 Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 6 2026 17:33 utc | 44
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 6 2026 17:47 utc | 45 Russian Peace Proposal of Dec 2021 Posted by: Exile | Sep 6 2026 17:52 utc | 46 Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 6 2026 17:55 utc | 47 Can’t wait to watch how Judge Napster’s US experts so promoted here and on RT explain away all doubts & contradictions. Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 6 2026 17:57 utc | 48
Troll and cannibal, fuck off. Posted by: aquadraht | Sep 6 2026 17:57 utc | 49 CN: Scott Ritter & Patrik Baab: ‘Europe’s Ticking Time Bomb’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 6 2026 18:13 utc | 50 Any agreement was possibly to hand over the conflict to europe. Posted by: Ornot | Sep 6 2026 18:18 utc | 51 Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Sep 6 2026 13:07 utc | 12 Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 6 2026 18:44 utc | 52 Random thoughts. Posted by: Cagliostro | Sep 6 2026 18:49 utc | 53
because the desired result is to sow confusion inside the White House. That’s 3 hours well spent. Posted by: Amalek (né Exile) | Sep 6 2026 19:03 utc | 54 The only relevant talking/negotiating taking place in Ukraine is along the LOC as Russian forces are advancing very capably and encircling their prey again and again. Russians are not in a hurry and only they can stop themselves. It’s said that “substantive proposals” were made by Kushner/Whitkoff, but not about what–they could be recipes or movie suggestions or anything other than the key issue which is Outlaw US Empire support for the war against Russia. A good question: Which side really wants the war to end and has a plan for that? IMO, the correct answer is Russia given the Colby Doctrine. Another very pertinent question: Can the Outlaw US Empire be trusted to adhere to what it says? IMO, the answer is no; it must act not talk. Amalek (né Exile) | Sep 6 2026 19:03 utc | 53–
I think you’d want to go back further than 1917 in order to understand the conflict between (at that time) European powers and Russia. From my personal experience and from the opinions of native Russians, it appears that very few people understand the significance of Russian experience and the Russian psyche. Especially in current regimes in the U.S., no actors have any knowledge of the Russian PoV, and instead of trained diplomats, the U.S. government sends unqualified individuals as a sort of back handed insult to Russian interests. I imagine that the Russians, having endured such attitudes for centuries, have a thorough understanding of how to deal with such issues. The significant difference in this case, IMO, is that Russia is in a position of relatively superior power. Significantly, if Russia desired it could be totally independent but also Russia’s aims bring it into mutually beneficial relationships with Chine, Iran and much of the developing world……the fatal conceit of the U.S. is that its leaders believe that stealing resources is a better use of limited resources than peacefully trading for them. Further, it appears that only a total economic collapse of the western economies will change direction….Trump and company are falling into the sunk cost fallacy in continuing the bullying policies of the past. Oh well, buckle up folks….nobody will be enjoying the results of this ride. Posted by: Giuseppe | Sep 6 2026 19:14 utc | 57 No closer to a solution … Ther seems to be a complicated dynamic being played out in ukraine and this conflict. Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 6 2026 19:34 utc | 59 And here I was—mistakenly—thinking the President of the Russian Federation was particularly busy; the clear proof to the contrary came with the meeting involving three (3) Zionists—two US envoys and a third, an Anglo-Russian personal economic advisor to the President. The Iranians dismissed them as useless figures interested only in stock market games and personal gain. Posted by: Cagliostro | Sep 6 2026 19:40 utc | 60 I must say, in the eternal battle against the concern trolls, spiritual sons of Shadowbanned, I prefer the position of Ahenobarbus and Malenkov to those of aquadraht, Cagliostro and rk or whatever his current handle is.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 6 2026 19:44 utc | 61
Posted by: Exile | Sep 6 2026 19:44 utc | 62 Oui | Sep 6 2026 19:20 utc | 57—
As VVP leaves his office to meet them I can imagine him quipping to his staff “I’ve got a couple of chidren to play with, I’ll be back in several hours.” Posted by: tucenz | Sep 6 2026 20:02 utc | 64 Posted by: malenkov | Sep 6 2026 17:04 utc | 39 Posted by: Duck n cover | Sep 6 2026 20:09 utc | 65 I hope to goodness the idea of a Bering Sea tunnel is not being revitalised in the promotion of beneficial commercial interests so reported… Posted by: Jo | Sep 6 2026 20:20 utc | 66 And when i say it’s the yanks in conflict with the brits (the english.) Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 6 2026 20:22 utc | 67 Mark2 | Sep 6 2026 19:44 utc | 64 & tucenz | Sep 6 2026 20:02 utc | 65—
💢NYT – Ukrainian corruption and fraud devour millions of Western aid Corrupt Ukrainian businessmen and politicians preying on the defense procurement sector continue to be a drain on the financial aid provided to Ukraine by the US and Europe, the New York Times laments.🔹 A weapons plant boss named Leonid Shyman was awarded a $280 million arms deal by the Ukrainian government while being on bail on corruption charges🔹 Audits discovered multiple instances of Ukrainian companies getting contracts without first proving their ability to deliver the required weapons🔹 Around $126 million was lost due to bypassing lower bids when awarding weapon contracts without providing any legal justifications🔹 In 2024 alone, Ukraine lost some $1.2 billion to “fraud, waste and mismanagement”Earlier this year, Ukraine’s anti-corruption watchdog NABU uncovered military-related embezzlement schemes from 2022–2025. Since January 2026, prosecutors have opened 29 defense procurement corruption cases involving 54 suspects, with at least $77 million embezzled or lost.Russia has maintained that Western arms shipments to Ukraine hinder conflict resolution and directly involve NATO countries in the fighting. Russia has also warned that deliveries containing weapons for Ukraine would be considered legitimate targets. Posted by: Jo | Sep 6 2026 20:33 utc | 69 What Putin’s concerned about is Russia’s survival and continuing development, which is what a genuine leader ought to be concerned with. Yes, that implies that Trump isn’t a genuine leader. This afternoon’s Military Summary provides a synopsis of the meeting between Russia and the Kosher Cowboys. The veracity of this report is not verifiable but in short he contends that: Posted by: Kentuckian | Sep 6 2026 20:38 utc | 71 I very much doubt Putin put forth a specific date for the SMO’s end as he’s always counseled against such prognostications. Real negotiations to end the war may only begin in 2027, according to former head of British MI6 intelligence John Sawyers.He believes the most realistic scenario is not a peace treaty, but a return to the level of hostilities after 2014—that is, simply a reduction in the intensity of the war.@ukr_leaks_eng Over time, Poklad and Derevyanko maintained a close relationship, although their paths diverged. Poklad rose to the top position in the Security Service of Ukraine, while the fate of Derevyanko remained unknown to the general public. However, published documents from the National Police of Ukraine indicate that Vitaliy Derevyanko remained involved in the criminal world and, as of 2020, held the position of “polozhenets” (see below) in the criminal hierarchy. However, he held this high-ranking criminal position not in his hometown, but in Kiev, where Aleksandr Poklad worked. I’m certain that his “employment” in the Ukrainian capital is no coincidence and is the result of ongoing informal cooperation between them. Posted by: Jo | Sep 6 2026 20:45 utc | 73 Mark2 | Sep 6 2026 20:44 utc | 74— Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 6 2026 20:44 utc | 74 Posted by: Kentuckian | Sep 6 2026 20:51 utc | 75 Germany has swung dagerously to the far right / fascism.
Posted by: too scents | Sep 6 2026 20:57 utc | 76 the fascist box Posted by: too scents | Sep 6 2026 21:05 utc | 77 @ Mark2 | Sep 6 2026 21:10 utc | 82 Posted by: too scents | Sep 6 2026 21:14 utc | 78 Like ‘ pandoras box ‘ If you open the fascist box you realese…Pestulence, famine and war. And you cant put it back in the box and close the lid. Dont go there. Posted by: Kentuckian | Sep 6 2026 21:16 utc | 79 @ Mark2 | Sep 6 2026 21:17 utc | 86 Posted by: too scents | Sep 6 2026 21:20 utc | 80 Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 6 2026 20:44 utc | 74
As a German, I disagree. That’s the mainstream media & policy line. It has been broadcasted non-stop from all sources, including public TV/radio. They try to tell us AfD 2026 = NSDAP 1933. In fact, they’ve stooped so low: a nice older lady, concentration camp survivor, got to say into a camera she’s worried it’ll happen again. Here’s why I think this propaganda is extremely dangerous: Posted by: Konami | Sep 6 2026 21:24 utc | 81 Don’t know about Greece but from Libya it has happened before. Ukr has officially three bases there from where they’ve been hitting Russian ships. Previously Russia’s solution was to not sail in that direction at all. Did they forget their own fix or what? Posted by: Englishman | Sep 6 2026 21:28 utc | 82 Ooh thats all right then. Posted by: too scents | Sep 6 2026 21:29 utc | 83 @ Mark2, §74: Posted by: John Marks | Sep 6 2026 21:31 utc | 84 Posted by: too scents | Sep 6 2026 21:29 utc | 91
Yes. We should give anyone the benefit of the doubt but if the same errors are repeated and used as arguments then we need to conclude it’s intentional.
I agree but 50 or so years of postmaterialism have hollowed out basically every political term. Germany has an “Antifa” that’s in part totalitarian and happy to use SA methods (stalking, doxing, violence, smear campaigns). Many self-proclaimed anti-fascists do the government’s evil work but genuinely think they’re preventing the Fourth Reich. Words like “nazi”, “fascist” but also “communist”, “socialist”, “conservative”, “liberal” cannot be used without further explanation. Posted by: Konami | Sep 6 2026 21:38 utc | 85 You guys play with fire, Posted by: too scents | Sep 6 2026 21:45 utc | 86 How’s Andy Bum’em going Mark2? Comment by Presidential Aide Yury Ushakov following Vladimir Putin’s meeting with US Presidential Envoy Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner Presidential Aide Yury Ushakov: I would like to brief you on today’s meeting. See also
Posted by: tucenz | Sep 6 2026 21:50 utc | 87 RE: “Has the Trump Gang said anything publicly to tell the EU Nazis to back off? No. IMO, EU/NATO are Empire proxies tasked to front for the Empire in its war against Russia. And I do remind Barflies that the Security Council met prior to Trump’s dummies arrival.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 6 2026 21:55 utc | 88 US isn’t in any position to force their will in EU. Posted by: too scents | Sep 6 2026 21:58 utc | 89 None so blind as will not see. ‘The powers that be’ deliberatly created the imergration problems to drive down wages and feed red meat to their attack dog grunts thats the public , that’s you commenters here now. Now they’v got your blood up you’l be thrown into the fray against Russia. Mark my words. Posted by: Kentuckian | Sep 6 2026 22:01 utc | 90 ‘The powers that be’ deliberatly created Posted by: too scents | Sep 6 2026 22:06 utc | 91 Whenever Volodomir Monika Lewinsky Zelensky is taking a load of Russian military activity USA comes with a begging bowl and sympathetic Putin stops attacks. This only strengthens the enemy. Disappointed. Russia should have kept it 120 hours long barrage going. Stopping it carries real risks. Posted by: Jason | Sep 6 2026 22:20 utc | 92 There’s really no real or cost-effective barrier for a plant or refinery that would stop a missile. But that’s ok, because Ukraine doesn’t have many missiles or capacity to launch them. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 6 2026 22:28 utc | 93 The level of desperation is hilarious. Pete Hegseth has made it mandatory for annual testosterone screening of all males over 30. If found to be low they are given testosterone replacement therapy. This has been temporarily halted but the policy is in place. What a foolish approach to a genuine problem. TRT makes men infertile which will affect the US population growth. Finding enough fools to join the US military will become difficult. How did everything start to simply collapse in the West starting with common sense! Posted by: Jason | Sep 6 2026 22:33 utc | 94 Mark2’s behavior is common in Germany. I believe there are structural reasons for this:
Here are some things that AfD voted for/against in Bundestag or that important AfD people have said:
This party is, as I said before, extremely neoliberal. Same level as FDP or CDU. They want only “good immigrants” and if you’re a jobless, disabled or poor German, your life will get harder after AfD comes to power — but exactly the same is true with all the other parties! Posted by: Konami | Sep 6 2026 22:38 utc | 95 Mark2 | Sep 6 2026 20:44 utc | 74 Global bond sell off is taking bond markets by storm. If this continues there will be another GFC 2008. A global financial crisis. Pro-US military allies are the sufferers. Global South is protected or insulated against western greed to a great extent when it comes to bonds. Posted by: Jason | Sep 6 2026 22:47 utc | 97 AfD is hardly fascist……they are really moderate conservatives….but in neo liberal, fascist, censorship prone, war mongering Germany the government controlled press labels them as neo nazis. Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 6 2026 22:53 utc | 98 Germany for Germans is now bad? Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 6 2026 22:56 utc | 99 Tobias Cole is an honorable commentator. Posted by: Suresh | Sep 6 2026 23:06 utc | 100 |
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