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September 13, 2026
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2026-199

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AI giants call for slowdown over ‘serious’ risks
Industry leaders are backing closer oversight of increasingly powerful artificial intelligence models
https://www.rt.com/news/645618-ai-giants-call-for-slowdown/

Posted by: Elber | Sep 13 2026 12:34 utc | 1

The banality of liberal zionists will be their undoing.  And I’m here for it.
 

Posted by: too scents | Sep 13 2026 12:39 utc | 2

The situation in Germany is forcing Poles to flee the country en masse.
 
 
The United Kingdom is facing a collapse: Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland are demanding independence.
 
 
If the Democrats win the House of Representatives in the U.S. midterm elections, they intend to launch a series of investigations into President Donald Trump, his family, and his administration’s policies, according to a report by The Washington Post.
 
 
Source: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2026/09/13/

Posted by: Elber | Sep 13 2026 12:46 utc | 3

Why the ‘Yellow Line’?
Perhaps to remind people of the yellow stars the Nazis forced Jews to wear back in WW2, saying essentially that the world thought they could rid the world of Jews but we will rid the world of Palestinians.m

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Sep 13 2026 12:55 utc | 4

So awesome to see Modi. Everyone can see exactly what BRICS stands for. But they won’t. They will believe the George Jetson/Ronald Reagan piles of lying capitalist shit coming from a city where the air is unbreathable in a country ruled by a Trump-Bibi clone. 
 
Bolsonaro’s Brazil, Putin’s Russia, Modi’s India, Xi’s China. Guess what they all have in common?
 
JEWS! Uh no. But each of them, exactly like Thanos Bibi, believes their populations are disposable, totally, in the interests of the ruling class they serve. They are intensely interested in Israel’s efforts at “population management,” even if only to study them, like the US and Japanese Unit 732.
 
The wildfire smoke and the fire and the sewage dont give the tiniest fuck about the conflicts you engage in.
 
The sewage doesnt even acknowledge species distinctions. 
 
It is impossible for a nation sitting atop piles of billions of animal skulls stuffing its mouth with dead cow to admit that the US is the model for the world. When the US frontier closed, world war erupted.
 
The White Man will never admit this. The American Oedipussies must be exterminated like the Jews they curse.
 
And everyone in the world knows this.
 
Except White People.

Posted by: Duck n cover | Sep 13 2026 13:05 utc | 5

More on the AI Bezzle:
 
OpenAI IPO will not happen in 2026 amid AI safety fears, Sam Altman says
 
Safety my hairy ass. Anthropic making similar noises but not yet pulling ack on their IPO, yet.
 
Suspect that the circular financing gravy train has run off the rails. Who will lend their loss making scam yet more money now there is no prospect of flipping the investment onto dumb pension funds and forced retail investors?
 
Crash ahoy!

Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 13 2026 13:12 utc | 6

Independence in United Kingdom.
Scotland – No real change. In 2014, 45.5% of voters wanted independence, Today, 44-52% want independence with 44-56% opposed.
Wales – Majority, 52-68%, still opposed to independence although this seems to be an old people thing with less support among the young.
Northern Ireland  – Independence not the issue but reunification with Ireland supported by 36% of population compared with 25% in 2019.
England – In 2020 opinion poll, 34% wanted independence for England while 36% wanted to maintain the status quo.
 
Still looks pretty United to me.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Sep 13 2026 13:18 utc | 7

Israel is right now an ultra nationalistic state. We have seen more of those governments / “regimes” in the past. These governments / “regimes” were in Germany (called Nazism, 1932 – 1945), Italy (called Fascism, 1922 – 1945), Japan (between say 1900 and 1945), and – of course – in Israel right now. That israeli system is called “Zionism” (1948 – ………… ). Even MAGA in the US is on the trajectory to become or is already an “ultra nationalistic” country. Even the Soviet Union had a number of “ultra nationalistic” characteristics.
One also can characterize the Ukraine between say 2014 and 2026-2027 to be a “ultra nationalistic” state. I say “R.I.P.” to that Ukraine.

Posted by: WMG | Sep 13 2026 13:37 utc | 8

120 million Americans were impacted by wildfire smoke this summer. And it is not over.
 
How do you get 120 million people to act like not a goddam thing is happening? And to not see their own future ablaze in the smoke?  And for anyone and everyone not to see it on the tellie? 
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs
 
At the base, physiological need, what is happening? The base is completely poisoned. Everything built on the base is also poisoned.
 
Everything. Everything is a Big Mac.
 
What happens to a people whose education consists of one thing: learning how to brag about oneself in order to deserve to eat?
 
The profound social and personal collapse visible in every street and home and office in the US. No matter what is happening, by their relentless self promotion, all people do is affirm the values of the ruling class while deceiving themselves. Every resume and CV in the US is a lie.
 
Take the ax to the modern industrial state and tear the entire thing down. Starting at the beginning, in the new world, in the United States.
 
As the Bible says repeatedly
 
I see men as trees.
 

Posted by: Duck n cover | Sep 13 2026 13:40 utc | 9

Carney Pushes Idea of Making Canada ‘Associate Member’ of EU, WSJ Reports
 
https://x.com/CTVNews/status/2099110900330360924
 
“Canada’s Prime Minister Mark Carney wants clear links with the European Union and is exploring whether his country could become an ‘associate member’ of the bloc, the Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday.”
 
PM Goldman Sachs is a busy little Bilderberger…

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 13 2026 13:44 utc | 10

Britain on the verge of breaking up, as Scottish, Irish and Wales leader hold summit for break-up. Would be a great day for freedom of humanity.
 
https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/2099078455786709012

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 13 2026 13:46 utc | 11

Someone posted a link yesterday.   I had never heard of “9/11 coincidence theory” until them.   Would appreciate some useful opinions on the theory.   What is interesting is that search engine algorithms hide this article.   I tried to find my way back to this article today and could not get there until I tried Yandex.   https://www.unz.com/bhua/9-11-coincidence-theory/   “An incomplete list of “completely circumstantial” Jewish connections with 9/11″[He is being sarcastic here] 

 

 Regarding ‘circumstantial’ evidence:   The Legal Guidehttps://thelegalguide.org/circumstantial-evidence-versus-direct-evidence-understanding/

Circumstantial evidence can be highly persuasive when multiple independent inferences converge to a single conclusion. Courts recognize its value; many verdicts rely primarily on circumstantial evidence. The strength lies in how well the circumstantial pieces fit together and how convincingly they exclude reasonable alternatives.

 
 

Posted by: Otto Penn | Sep 13 2026 13:48 utc | 12

@Otto Penn | Sep 13 2026 13:48 utc | 12
 
The planes had no role in demolishing the towers, it was and is physically impossible. The phonecalls from planes was physically impossible. The hit on Pentagon was a missile, it hit the office investigation the missing trillions announced my Rumsfeld the day before. etc. etc.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 13 2026 13:54 utc | 13

– I have read / heard some (veiled ??) references / rumours that the UK came under a massive cyber attack from Russia. Does anyone have more information about that ? I didn’t find any reliable source on the internet. Was this news censored ? By GOOGLE ?
– If indeed the UK came under fire by (a) (heavy) cyber attack(s) then I think this more likely to be from Israel / israeli “sources”. Recently Ed Miliband (the new british foreign secretary/minister after PM Keir Starmer was replaced by PM Andy Burnham) announced that the UK would impose a boycott against product produced in the israeli settlements on the West Bank. I assume that these (allegedly) cyber attacks could have been launched as a retaliation for that british boycott.
 
Has someone better information ?

Posted by: WMG | Sep 13 2026 14:01 utc | 14

@Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 13 2026 13:54 utc | 13
The official theory is bullocks. 
 
 
It was an inside job. Don’t waste time talking to someone that doesn’t know that by now.
  
What I would like to know is the organizational hierarchy of the conspiracy.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Sep 13 2026 14:07 utc | 15

Suspect that the circular financing gravy train has run off the rails. Who will lend their loss making scam yet more money now there is no prospect of flipping the investment onto dumb pension funds and forced retail investors? 

Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 13 2026 13:12 utc |
 
 
this. 

Posted by: Exile | Sep 13 2026 14:09 utc | 16

What I would like to know is the organizational hierarchy of the conspiracy.
Posted by: Otto Penn | Sep 13 2026 14:07 utc | 15

 
Good luck with that. Put it on your headstone maybe.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 13 2026 14:12 utc | 17

UK is not breaking up, just being served up to capital dressed as governance:
 
The English Devolution Bill

Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 13 2026 14:16 utc | 18

@Otto Penn | Sep 13 2026 14:07 utc | 15

What I would like to know is the organizational hierarchy of the conspiracy.

Sure, but to know that you first have to establish the actual physical sequence of events, which has been actively obfuscated for 25 years.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 13 2026 14:20 utc | 19

I find it a bit interesting that a Sahel State is one of the three against votes — IAEA
 
Overview of the Resolution
The recent resolution regarding Iran’s nuclear program was a significant diplomatic move. It was proposed by the United States, Britain, France, and Germany and marks a critical moment in international relations concerning Iran’s nuclear activities.
Key Details of the Resolution

  • Proposing Countries: United States, Britain, France, Germany
  • Voting Outcome:
    • Votes in Favor: 23
    • Votes Against: 3 (Russia, China, Niger)
    • Abstentions: 8

Posted by: arby | Sep 13 2026 14:20 utc | 20

@ Norwegian | Sep 13 2026 13:54 utc | 13
 
I’ve been told that phone calls from mid-flight were possible using Airfones, provided that the planes were equipped with them. Cell phones would have been useless, of course.
 
That much said, I’ve been flying infrequently since the 1970s and never saw an Airfone — maybe they were accessible only in the first-class part of airplanes.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 13 2026 14:59 utc | 21

all the hubbub and finger pointing celebrating a quarter century of wars pointed at non belligerents and PATRIOT Act destruction of the Bill of Rights.  Not a word about the killing joke of the 2000 Selection and the Media Consortium recount results scheduled to be announced what day?
 
greasy psy op while millions act enlightened.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 13 2026 15:08 utc | 22

– Liberal Zionists Are Evil Shitbags – Caitlin Johnstone

Fixed that for you. Zionists or not, liberals are evil, and Caitlin Johnstone is one of them.

Gloria Steinem and Michael Tracey are two faces of the same coin. Steinem peddles the most extreme, unbelievable and unproved theories, while Tracey ignores all the well-referenced materials, framing the whole story as an unhinged conspiracy-theory. It is the same old CIA/MI6/Mossad playbook, already seen with COVID and many other events: there is a conspiracy (e.g. peddling untested MRNA “vaccines”), there are conspiracy theorists (those who denounce all the abuses perpetrated to force those “vaccines”), so, to counter and deride the well-sourced theory,  the establishment agents push for some more extreme theory (e.g. nanobots in the MRNA vaccine; e.g. Gloria Steinem), the establishment press frame the whole story as if it is only about the extreme theories (e.g. the mainstream media, e.g. Michael Tracey), and the good story is lumped together with the crazy tales, and the general public thinks that those “conspiracy theorists” are all the same mad loons.
 
I do not want to hear about satanic rituals right now. I want to know how Epstein made his fortune, how Epstein could escape justice for so long when everybody knew who he was, how it was possible that Epstein took his life, and I want to know exactly what he got in exchange for all the young girls that he procured to powerful people.
These propagandists are now forcing the narrative: Epstein did not do satanic ritual sex abuses, so Epstein did nothing wrong, so if he escaped justice, it was just because he did nothing wrong, so nothing to see here. Accomplices.

Posted by: SG | Sep 13 2026 15:19 utc | 23

Posted by: arby | Sep 13 2026 14:20 utc | 20 … Overview of the Resolution …The recent resolution regarding Iran’s nuclear program was a significant diplomatic move. It was proposed by the United States, Britain, France, and Germany and marks a critical moment in international relations concerning
 
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.I think Iran will ignore the proposal no matter the vote.. Iran may use the  nuclear capacity they are contemplating to  protect Yemen, Lebonan, Gaza, Sudan and even Egypt ..even Erdogan and Israel will have to back off. NATO will be neutered. 
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It will be interesting to see what happens when every one being threatned has sufficient nuclear deterance capability to defend their sovereignity.  
I predict Peace to be the likely outcome when the nuclear defense capacity of every nation state becomes sufficient to deter uninvited foreigners or to oust outside induced influence seeking to interefere with the affairs of the nation state.   
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A very different world is likely.. Economic competitiion and the advantages of magnamous wealth maybe be turned into universal between nation bottom up cooperation.. a world where everyone can exercise their right to self determination without interference from the cut throats that run the nation state system’s governments. 

Posted by: snake | Sep 13 2026 15:23 utc | 24

hey b – thank you!  thanks to the posters who raise good questions and interesting replies as well.. 

Posted by: james | Sep 13 2026 15:50 utc | 25

Thank you for the roundup b, you kept me from yard work. 
 
Caitlin Johnstone’s Liberal Zionists are Evil hits an excellent point useful in dealing with people still believing Western governments lies.  Focusing on the image instead of the act is repulsive.
 
The Economist article on Isreal’s threat from within was much more interesting than expected.   But I have never been there.   I would like to see more articles about what is going on inside that vile society.  How’s the IOF holding up?  How’s the economy with all the constant warring with neighbors?  Crabs starting to fight out of the bucket yet?
 
And now parents get arrested for allowing kids to be kids.  A gated community with security guards who police against the community.   Sounds about right these days. 
 
 
 

Posted by: cc | Sep 13 2026 16:02 utc | 26

Otto Penn @ 15
 
People have been there before you….
 
Look to the buildaberg pyrimid graphic 
 
With added epstien blackmale.
 
Startet at the very top and workdown, rothchild dynasty.
 
Compramised cia, fbi, cia under the control of mossad and israile, who rum america and enland.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 13 2026 16:47 utc | 27

unimperator | Sep 13 2026 13:46 utc | 11
*** Britain on the verge of breaking up, as Scottish, Irish and Wales leader hold summit for break-up. Would be a great day for freedom of humanity.***
 
No it wouldn’t, since the Political Establishment (NATO/US owned with or without input from its other subsidiary, the EU dictatorship) would still rule — just via supposedly separate companies.
 
The whole of Scotland would be turned into a US military base. No matter what the public actually wanted. No real change. The SNP is just as much a NATO tag-nut as any of the other Establishment political parties.

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 13 2026 16:48 utc | 28

I should of addef mi5 and mi6,  i,m out side enjoying the rain.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 13 2026 16:56 utc | 29

Any one got any good links on how to make cooking oil, i’m at the reasearch stage of this possable new project.
Thanks in advice.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 13 2026 17:12 utc | 30

In advance  not in advice typo

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 13 2026 17:13 utc | 31

“Water Crisis Triggered by Gaza’s Ruin: Israel is paying the price of Destruction”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR7AFG6GB0o

Gaza’s sewer system is destroyed and that menas that untreated sewage is dumped into the Mediterranean Sea and that sewage has forced 6 out of 7 desalination plants to close.

Posted by: WMG | Sep 13 2026 17:15 utc | 32

how to make cooking oil
 
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 13 2026 17:12 utc | 30
 
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Animal or vegetable?
 

Posted by: too scents | Sep 13 2026 17:15 utc | 33

@Norwegian | Sep 13 2026 13:54 utc | 13
It sounds as if you think the missile that hit the Pentagon caused the large demolition there. I dont think the missile exploded so that demolition was presumably caused by some demolition charges. The missiles purpose was to be identified inside the Pentagon and that was to activate the demolition of the twin towers. That happened some 22 minutes after the missile hit. Even minutes before the missile hit Cheney was carried down to the shelter by secret service. This is explained by air defence radar operators actually having identified the missile already from the radar signature. And that kind of missile had AI functionality so it could itself change its target at the last moment so it could have chosen the White House. Note that Janes military zine had an article of that missile the day before 9/11
 
This argument was based on a demolition plan originating from 1994 after the previous attack on WTC and the argument was to demolate a building where it was believed that atomic terrorism might happen. The missile was the Granit shipwrecker normally with a 500kt H-bomb and that was to make the chain of command unleash the demolition of WTC to prevent other such bombs to detonate inside WTC. For that reason it was essential that planes if they had been involved would have penetrated deep into the buildings so they might have carried nukes like that. 
 
I think that made it too risky to use planes since they might have been  massacred against the buildings and mostly fallen down so it would be less likely that they could have brought any bomb.
 
Dmitry Khalezov has provided the most credible analysis about this although he may have been wrong about some technical issues.
His the Third Truth is in my view still the most informative narrative.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Sep 13 2026 17:21 utc | 34

Steiner was doable back in the 60s but she was no more than a 4 in later years. Hard pass. 

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 13 2026 17:23 utc | 35

(The singular time spell check has actually added to the post)

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 13 2026 17:24 utc | 36

Too scents @ 33
Oo yes good question, i should of said.
Vegtable, definatly,
 
Top of my list would be nut oils,
Hazel nut, walnut, olive oil, on down the list.
Nut oil puts a shine on our winter plumage, 
So im told.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 13 2026 17:28 utc | 37

@Mark2
 
What you most probably are looking for is a “VO” centrifuge.  i.e. Vegetable Oil.
 
Laval is a well known maker and some smaller older models were hand cranked.  Of course these are very difficult to find from other sources than aliexpress &c.
 
https://www.alfalaval.com/products/separation/centrifugal-separators/separators/vo/
 
For animal cooking oil there is ghee (rendered butter with the milk solids removed) and various fats.
 
The fat that collects around the kidneys of red meat animals is particularly good.  For that you need to visit a real butcher.
 

Posted by: too scents | Sep 13 2026 17:45 utc | 38

@Mark2 continued.
 
There are also impeller press units for extracting oils from nuts.
 
https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-oil-press-oil-expeller.html
 
and plate filter presses
 
https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-plate-filter-press.html
 

Posted by: too scents | Sep 13 2026 17:53 utc | 39

Thanks too scents,  for thoughs suggestion, that’l be my evenings enjoyment looking in to it.
Although defanaty not vegatarian i am trying to ease ofo animal fats.
 
I’m thinking along these lines….
 
Oil floats on water , if i pulverise into  mash drop in, simmering water,  then remove oil from surface, heat then remove risidial moisture content.
 
Watch’a think.
 
Respect.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 13 2026 18:04 utc | 40

The penultimate article linked by b by Tracey about Steinem really perked my interest. 
 
If anyone has read my posts, I have been mentioning over the past couple months the triangulation of certain phenomenon pertaining to the fall of empires and the rise of Satanic superstition. 
 
This last phrase, Satanic superstition must be qualified. I am not alluding to the superstitious belief of Satan in the material world, whether through the possession of individuals by demons or what have you. 
 
Rather, I am talking about Satanic influence that presides over and during times of acute cultural stress that manifest in deranged cultural phenomenon, such as the Satanic Panic of the 80s but also recently in the Epstein files that has possessed the mind of the people in the west and has provided for them the shadows needed to endlessly distract, a powerful tool for TPTB. 
 
During the fall of the Spanish empire after they had to retreat from the western hemisphere, Goya was able to ascertain this very same phenomenon, during his Black reclusive period, where he painted two analogous paintings, one depicting a coven of witches, demons, and sorcers, and the other a painting depicting a religious pilgrimage.
 
That Steinem worked for the CIA yet pumped the Satanic panic therefore is not surprising, though it should have at least raised a few eyebrows by those with their ear to the geopolitical ground at the time. A cultural, third-wave feminist trying to appeal to religious sensibility? A de Beauvoir she most certainly was not, but certainly an outcropping from the former who was used by the Messianic Sartre who himself grossly-misiniterpreted Heidegger and other “existentialists.”
 
That Steinem herself knew of why TPTB need distractions and scapegoats, I have my doubts. More likely, she was handled and steered in such a manner that perhaps she believed in such stupidity, herself being a watered-down version of less stupid people before her.
 
One would do very well in looking at Rene Girard’s thinking on the subject and finding the parallels in this age of the terminal west. In his book I See Satan Fall Like Lightning, there is a chapter where he covers and reinterprets the life of Appolonius of Tyana, a great pagan religio-philosopher who in his life railed against the rise of Christianity and who was said performed many miracles himself which rivaled Jesus. 
 
The most famous was Appolonius recognizing the catharsis needed for civilization to be able to travel through acute stress, in his case a plague that was ravaging the city (where Girard is able to establish that plague as a term actually is better interpreted as just what I have mentioned: the acute stress of civilizational decline (or, if you’d like, Carter’s Malaise or Crisis of Confidence)). 
 
Appolonius is able to gather a crowd or mob, bring them to a beggar (scapegoat), decry him as a plague demon in disguise, and where the miracle worker is able to get the mob to hurl stones, killing the man and bringing catharsis to the people.
 
In my own Church, where I have made clear there exists a spiritual struggle for its direction, there is a rise of traditionalist types who are increasingly using the grammar of Satan: emphasizing eternal damnation, scapegoating and finger pointing, and rebellion away from Ubi Petrus, ibi Ecclesia. For the idiots involved in such an endeavor, there does exist a way to triangulate your way back to the Barque of Peter. 
 
Empires die. And thank God for that.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 13 2026 18:13 utc | 41

Thanks Michael Tracy! I knew that women are hysterical irrational bitches.
 
“…global metrics indicate that women earn approximately 77 to 83 cents for every dollar earned by men, depending on whether the measure is adjusted or unadjusted.” per Brave AI.
 
i wonder if that stupid jew book that says, “love your neighbor as yourself” meant start w/your goddam wife. nah. giving a fuck how the economy treats women is the opposite of the Hegseth “Judaeo-Christian warrior ethos” and its goal of maximum lethality. “be fruitful and multiply” those daisy cutters.

Posted by: duck n cover | Sep 13 2026 18:13 utc | 42

Watch’a think. 
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 13 2026 18:04 utc | 40
 
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To fractionate liquids the most efficient method is to use a centrifuge.
 
https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-milk-separator-machine.html
 
To remove liquids from solids an impeller press is usually used.
 
To remove particulates from liquids a plate filter stack is used.
 
The typical process is impeller press => plate filter => rinse ==> centrifuge.
 
50 to 80 years ago all of the required simple machines were available in countertop handcranked versions.   Of course they each require a certain finesse.
 

Posted by: too scents | Sep 13 2026 18:20 utc | 43

Sorry, Tracy’s articles are both quite good. But the CIA and Steinem aren’t creating “Satanic panic” out of nothing. just like all this shrieking about AGI Doomsday, all bullshit, but resting on the deep universal repression of the awareness of capitalism’s nuclear nihilism.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm_cFzVAoo8
Tell Me Something Good- Chaka Khan & Rufus

Posted by: duck n cover | Sep 13 2026 18:20 utc | 44

Posted by: SG | Sep 13 2026 15:19 utc | 23
covid denialism?
 
whatever you believe about covid 19 is similar to whatever you believe about 9/11:
 
covid 19 or vaccines or both: the government is conducting medical experiments on the populace.
 
9/11: the government perpetuated a massive terrorist event on US soil.
 
now back to work!
 
what is the worth of your “beliefs”? nothing. people obey. period. then they rationalize and call themselves “smart” cuz a car hasn’t killed them yet or the fire didn’t burn their house down.
 
the indifference you cultivate by this easily disprovable anti-scientific bullshit you claim to “know”, that’s the real enemy. cuz what you “know” results in people sitting on their asses and doing nothing or hopping back into the employment cattle car on the way to the abattoir.
 
am i wrong? no. the state manufactures false controversy precisely in order to maintain inertia. and smart people like to argue like a bunch of fucking jews arguing over the talmud. pointless.

Posted by: duck n cover | Sep 13 2026 18:30 utc | 45

“Three UK airports hit by cyber-attack with data of 8.7m customers accessed”
 
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/aug/27/uk-airports-operator-cyber-attack-customer-data-accessed
 
This could be the cyber attack from Israel ???? (see post #14).

Posted by: WMG | Sep 13 2026 18:34 utc | 46

it’s not going to matter, no matter how easy it is to prove this.
 
how many people died when China ended its covid lockdown policy?
 
Google:
Independent scientific studies estimate that between 1.4 million and 1.9 million excess deaths occurred across mainland China in the two months following the abrupt end of its “zero-COVID” policy in December 2022.
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if anyone cares to compare mortality rates in high income countries with incident rates in low income countries, and at what point in the disease history these two figures begin to converge, it is easy to see the Western-dominated global ruling class doesn’t give the tiniest fuck what covid 19, or any other disease, is doing to people. 
 
and the Chinese gov’t will gleefully kill millions of its own people to get the war machine back up and running. it is doing so right now. 
 
now everyone back to work!

Posted by: duck n cover | Sep 13 2026 18:39 utc | 47

Thanks muchly ‘too scents’
Thats all good advice worth its weight in gold, liquid gold. And lots of search terms thrown in.
 
Much respect.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 13 2026 19:09 utc | 48

Here’s Kevin’s excellent report about Canadian oil developments, US refinery maximization and the presumed inability to meet diesel demand thus the continual rise in its price, and a similar tale with gasoline. What I want to know is where is the alleged additional demand coming from within the Empire? Perhaps I’m the only one having this question.  

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 13 2026 19:22 utc | 49

DJT is basically already backing the breakup of the UK, acknowledging that the Conservative/Labour governments’ gross incompetence on illegal immigration, green energy madness, censorship, and super high utility and tax rates make the UK unviable.
 
DJT in Dublin yesterday stated clearly that he thought Irish Reunification was a great idea, freezing Michael Martin like a deer in the jacklight.
 
DJT probably also would back independence for Scotland too (he has large scale real estate holdings there).
 
DJT has already backed Argentine acquisition of the Falklands.  Driving the Brits nearly mad with anger.
 
Andy Burnham is done as dinner……stick a fork in him………..

Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 13 2026 19:49 utc | 50

49 Cont’d–
 
A look at gas/diesel prices today shows diesel in California rising almost $3/gal Y/Y while inventory levels remain relatively constant. Refineries are supposedly running at 95% yet all that output isn’t enough to quench demand and thus the price rise. There’re plenty of crap explanations online that don’t explain squat. As Kevin notes in his video, the last refinery built within the Empire was in the late 1970s, yet demand has vastly increased while price remained lower. “In 2006, the EPA mandated a further reduction in the sulfur limit of diesel fuel to 15 ppm, giving birth to ultra-low sulfur diesel (ULSD).” So, that change can’t be blamed as some sites try. IMO, we’re being gouged bigtime by Big Oil.    

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 13 2026 20:09 utc | 51

Uk diesal well  over £10 a galleon.
Whats that in dollers ? Probably about 15 dollers a galleon.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 13 2026 20:16 utc | 52

The AfD does not yet have an economic agenda.”

The far right has never had, and never will have, an economic agenda.

Posted by: Soviético | Sep 13 2026 20:20 utc | 53

The far right has never had, and never will have, an economic agenda.
 
Posted by: Soviético | Sep 13 2026 20:20 utc | 53
 
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Sure they do.  They just want to keep it to themselves.
 

Posted by: too scents | Sep 13 2026 20:23 utc | 54

How about a bit of moody classical music.
 
Mussorgsky ‘ the old castle ‘
 
It’s Russian.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 13 2026 20:40 utc | 55

it seems the acceptable parties in power have an economic idea and that is to bankrupt the countries they lead.. i suppose that is why they are in power…. 
 
 

Posted by: james | Sep 13 2026 20:42 utc | 56

karlof1@49:
 
“About Canadian oil developments…”
 
Fighting Oil & Gas Pipelines Destroying Secwepemc Nation Territory
 
https://x.com/KanahusFreedom/status/2095502977998229988
 
“We need the world to wake up that Canada is another Israel.”
 
Settler-colonialist ecocide as genocide remains an underlying problem across occupied Turtle Island.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 13 2026 20:47 utc | 57

.. Steinem really perked my interest.  ..
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 13 2026 18:13 utc | 41

 
And we can remember her in her Playboy bunny outfit.

Posted by: tucenz | Sep 13 2026 20:49 utc | 58

MOATS with George Galloway, Day 198: ‘Buying The Vote’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@GeorgeGallowayOfficial/streams
 
The $5k mid-term bribe| Reform pockets 70m pounds|Trump unites Ireland. With Jackson Hinkle & Simeon Boikov.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 13 2026 21:10 utc | 59

Re Israel’s cyber attack on Britain.
 
 I posted a few links back when it happened.
 
if I find time later today, I’ll repost if I locate them.
 
but yeah. Blame Russia, but , as ever, it was Israel.
 

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 13 2026 21:33 utc | 60

Liberal Zionists Are Evil Shitbags – Caitlin Johnstone
Her best this week!  Short with real payoff.  Teach this to grade schoolers now!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 13 2026 21:37 utc | 61

AI Giants Call For Slowdown Over ‘Serious Risks’
 
https://www.rt.com/news/645618-ai-giants-call-for-slowdown/
 
“Open AI chief Sam Altman and xAI owner Elon Musk have backed calls to immediately slow the development of increasingly powerful AI models.
 
Four days ago, researcher Jacob Coxon publicly resigned from Anthropic, accusing both the company and his previous employer, OpenAI, of racing towards self-improving super-intelligence without ‘acting responsibly’. He also claimed that the technology could ‘kill us all by the end of the decade’.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 13 2026 22:15 utc | 62

“Gloria Steinem: leader of the “Women’s Movement,” peddler of “Satanic ritual sex abuse” garbage – Michael Tracey”
Ridiculously long and misses her key crime against the population completely: paid and supported by the Cold War CIA to promote division among anti war men and women.  She was a domestic Frankfurt schooler and key intellectual author of gender divide and rule politics against the working class.   
She should be despised but this satanic sex obsession is really a footnote to a much broader intellectual crime against humanity.  
Tracy is just too OCD to take seriously sometimes.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 13 2026 22:19 utc | 63

 John Gilberts | Sep 13 2026 20:47 utc | 57—
 
Thanks for your reply. Indeed, that’s a longstanding problem that’s rarely mentioned. The RT AI-related item was a worthy read. As I’ve written over the years, IMO AI is a technology that needed in-depth global discussion before it was allowed to emerge from its box just as robotics and nuclear issues should’ve. 

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 13 2026 23:07 utc | 64

Posted by: duck n cover | Sep 13 2026 18:39 utc | 47
 

Independent scientific studies estimate that…

 
I got curious and looked up the origin of this so-called “independent research.”
 
It’s hilarious !
 
American “researchers” with Chinese surnames, sitting comfortably in Washington and likely funded by the usual suspects, “assessed” the death toll in China based on… the drop in Baidu usage after the lockdowns ended !
 
Honestly… they’ll really make up just about anything to badmouth China.

Posted by: Sebgo | Sep 13 2026 23:21 utc | 65

Here’s Kevin’s excellent report about Canadian oil developments, US refinery maximization and the presumed inability to meet diesel demand thus the continual rise in its price, and a similar tale with gasoline. What I want to know is where is the alleged additional demand coming from within the Empire? Perhaps I’m the only one having this question.  
 
 
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 13 2026 19:22 utc | 49
 
 
 
There is crap happening.  Too many questions too few answers.  It is interesting that Canada IS taking concrete action, creating pipelines to sell to both Europe and Asia.  Whatever our US financial manipulators are doing – well they are now getting resisted in serious ways.  In ways I would never have imagined a year ago.

Posted by: Woke American | Sep 13 2026 23:22 utc | 66

So, that change can’t be blamed as some sites try. IMO, we’re being gouged bigtime by Big Oil.
 
    
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 13 2026 20:09 utc | 51
 
 
 
And yeah, big oil is making a killing.  Not sure how long their ill gotten profits will last.

Posted by: Woke American | Sep 13 2026 23:25 utc | 67

The AfD is still missing an economic agenda – Unherd

Restricting immigration is an economic agenda, quite a systematic and significant one.

Posted by: Altai | Sep 14 2026 0:01 utc | 68

@ Woke American | Sep 13 2026 23:25 utc | 67
 
Congress will hold hearings with much faux-indignant grandstanding; no action will be taken, except that Chevron might raise its dividend a penny or two.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 14 2026 0:02 utc | 69

Trump is pledging 5k to anyone who votes!  Its a gift.
 
Not a bribe in the least, the cash is not contingent on any specific candidate.
 
DJT is urging however, a vote against the socialist, communists, anarchists, censorship artists, DEI promoters, open borders fanatics, green energy radicals, second amendment violators, and faith repressors…..there I think that covers it nicely………
 
And now DJT is firmly in favor of Irish unification too……yet another winner!

Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 14 2026 0:20 utc | 70

@ tobias cole | Sep 14 2026 0:20 utc | 70
 
Still waiting on my DOGE dividend check, thank you very much.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 14 2026 0:31 utc | 71

Too bias cole @  70
In historical terms tha very similar to ‘ takeing the kings shilling ‘  a form of press ganging or consciption .
 
Good luck with that ,  your going to need it.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 14 2026 0:48 utc | 72

@30 Mark2

Another idea:

https://www.dezeen.com/2012/07/08/windoil-by-dave-hakkens/

More rustic is to simply mill the seed/fruit, this can be done by hand (early flat stone mortars with ridge and channels for oil have been found) or traditionally with a stone wheel or cone. For seed oils probably little oil without pressing… but then if you buy say sesame paste (tahin) much oil does seperate by itself when left after milling, and can be poured off.

For olives the size of mill goes from something like this that can be powered by one person:

https://www.istockphoto.com/es/foto/la-piedra-de-molino-prensa-de-aceite-de-oliva-exprime-aceite-de-oliva-presentado-en-gm2174509735-594186558

…to larger ones that need a horse or similar.

Most of the oil is obtained directly, the juice and oil run off and then seperate by themselves, so water is just drained off. Then the pulp is layered between mats and pressed to free the rest. This can be a small hand tightened home made or bought press.

Usually they use metal nuts and bolt to tighten but here is the idea in traditional all wood:

http://www.sabor-artesano.com/imagen/molino-capilla/molino-capilla.jpg

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 14 2026 0:48 utc | 73

 
Just Now…
 
https://x.com/MAGA_News/status/2099210715701878834
 
“Canadian PM Mark Carney and French President Emmanuel Macron* have discussed granting Canadians visa-free rights to live and work in the EU, including possible ‘associate member’ status for Canada, as Ottawa seeks closer ties amid strained US trade relations – WSJ.”
 
And presumably all their problems will then be allowed to come here.
 
*Both Bilderbergers & ex bankster-gangsters

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 14 2026 0:49 utc | 74

Ornot @ 73
 
Wow thanks mr Ornot, thats good news i already have similar to both of those, i use them for pressing and preserving for winter, my own fruit juice in bottles.
 
Along with your advice i’m good to go as far as trying it out. On hazel and walnuts from local foraging. And in a few years when my two olive trees start producing i’ll have home grown olive oil .
 
Thats one less item i need from a supermarket. Pretty much zero now.
Drinks on me guys 
 
Much kudos.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 14 2026 1:03 utc | 75

@74 John

The way EU works is same rules apply to all, meaning normally it cannot be just France/Canada but has to be Schengen/Canada, otherwise it is granting privilege to France (access to Canada) at EU cost (access to Schengen).

In other words I don’t see a way of that happening without full similar access from all Schengen countries, i.e. most of the population of europe.

Even if they present it differently somehow, that would be the eventual destination imo.

More to the point, Canada border policy then becomes EU border policy, meaning Canada is subject to EU wider border policy, because what rules EU writes for entry/residence in EU (which are often freebie) would count as cross reference for access into Canada.

Maybe only european nationals, but EU has its own idea of what that means also.

Added to that, any resentment in Canada to the idea will likely try to be used to forge ties with US instead, to make the population feel obliged to choose one or other.

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 14 2026 1:30 utc | 76

Berletic: The US ‘Burden Sharing Network’ Takes Shape (& vid)
 
https://x.com/BrianJBerletic/status/2099005137926971515
 
“Is the US really fighting with the EU & Canada? Is it really ignoring Saudi pleas for military aid? Or is it something else…?”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 14 2026 1:34 utc | 77

Trump  knows the price of everyone , but the value of no one.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 14 2026 1:39 utc | 78

Ornot@76:
 
Thanks for your thoughts. Early days yet. We shall see what ensues. This is more nuanced than ‘MAGA News’:
 
Carney Says Canada Planning To Discuss ‘Unique Alliance’ with EU But Not Membership
 
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-european-union-eu-membership-poilievre-trump-tariffs-usa-9.7342604
 
“…I think Canada should be reassured by the fact that we are looking at partnership in a market which is basically bigger than the US consumer market,’ Finance Minister Francois Philippe Champagne* told CBC.
 
Carney will travel to Strasbourg, France, on Tuesday and will address the European Parliament on Thursday, at the invitation of *President Robert Metsola…”
 
*Like Carney, Champagne & Metsola are also Bilderbergers

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 14 2026 1:59 utc | 79

@75 Mark2

I hope you manage to get whatever set up working.

For olives usually they reduce the olives to a paste and then press out the oil and water, first cold (higher quality) then washed with hot water, this video shows traditional but starting with hot water

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=clQXtRWioSs

The oil that comes off before pressing is called flor, the highest quality according to some. I know there are ways to seperate a lot of the oil and water without pressing, but don’t know exactly how that is done, an example is here at around 3:00 which is mechanised …

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xDbEGwS8Niw

…but doesn’t explain. They just let it sit and settle for two weeks afterwards before drawing off the oil.

Otherwise you would just have to press for most of the oil . That first video is larger scale everything than necessary, some presses are table top for example. :- )

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 14 2026 2:32 utc | 80

I Built a Spy Satellite Simulator in a Browser. Here’s What I Learned.
How a weekend project got the attention of Palantir’s co-founder.
Bilawal Sidhu, Feb 24, 2026
____
 
“I posted a demo video last week and went to sleep.
By the time I woke up, the Palantir co-founder had replied to defend his company.
That wasn’t what I was expecting. But it’s also exactly the kind of thing that happens when you accidentally poke a nerve — and it told me more about what I’d built than any of the positive replies did.
Here’s what WorldView does: it lets you look at any place on Earth through the eyes of an intelligence analyst. Night vision. FLIR thermal. CRT scan lines. Live air traffic. Real satellite orbits. And — the part that really starts feeling surreal — actual CCTV camera feeds draped directly onto the 3D model of the city.
All of it running in a browser. No classified clearances.
Just open a tab.”

Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Sep 14 2026 3:24 utc | 81

Link to my previous comment’s subject.

Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Sep 14 2026 3:26 utc | 82

“The net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.” ~ John Gilmore
 
(And ‘Who watches the watchers?’.)

Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Sep 14 2026 3:30 utc | 83

Thanks again  Ornot,
I really apreciate this advice.
 
I have been put off this project in the past by naysayers saying, you need huge pressure per squire inch to acheve this, to the extent small holders would have one person in a distrect that pressed comercialy. While i’m sure that is true ,  i’d prefer to have the satisfaction of doing it myself if possable, so clearly it is possable.
 
Have you seen the price of olive oil these days. !
 
Thanks.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 14 2026 3:41 utc | 84

Don’t know, maybe there was a plane, maybe there wasn’t.
 
But the plane/fuel fire certainly didn’t cause the building to collapse in the way it did. That was most certainly carefully placed explosives, potentially in several different floors.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 14 2026 3:42 utc | 85

@ Ornot | Sep 14 2026 1:30 utc | 76
 
the eu is one hell of a racket as i see it… screws everyone collectively and to top it off – they get unelected leader/dictatoris like ursala von leyen..  as a canuck, i want nothing to do with any of it..

Posted by: james | Sep 14 2026 3:46 utc | 86

Several weeks ago someone here suggested a web site, it looked very interesting but being buzy i just saved it.
 
Now i come to look it seems extremely good  on lots of topis  including 9/11
 
So……..https//SWPRS.org/
 
 

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 14 2026 3:57 utc | 87

@ Mark2 | Sep 14 2026 3:57 utc | 87
 
that website has been mentioned and shared many times at moa over the years, but i am glad you appear to have just discovered it! 

Posted by: james | Sep 14 2026 4:00 utc | 88

James 
Easy tiger, theres a new post on 9/11.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 14 2026 4:23 utc | 89

@ Mark2 | Sep 14 2026 4:23 utc | 89
 
its a good website… i appreciate others giving updates for new articles on this site..

Posted by: james | Sep 14 2026 4:31 utc | 90

James @ 89
Thanks for clarifying your postion.
 
Bare in mind that not everyone who comes to MOA is a member of your small exclusve club.
 
Your original comment could have been left un said.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 14 2026 4:37 utc | 91

~ Extensions of The Visceral ~
 
@ John Gilberts:
 
Was it you who mentioned Koyaanisqatsi, a few days ago?
I’ve heard of it and even saw a short clip of it a long time ago, perhaps as a music video extract from the film’s composer, Philip Glass, but I don’t recall ever seeing the film, itself, at least in its entirety. So that’s what I might consider doing shortly.
 
In the mean time, I’ll leave you with these related things which we may have also heard of:
____
 
Tool use:
 
“Deinopidae, also known as net-casting spiders, are a family of circumtropical cribellate spiders first described by Carl Ludwig Koch in 1850. They are a group of stick-like elongated spiders that catch prey by stretching a web across their front legs before propelling themselves forward.”
~ Wikipedia
 
—-
 
Emotion(?):
 
“Research indicates that bumble bees exhibit behaviors that suggest they can experience emotion-like states, such as positive feelings when engaging in activities like rolling balls. While the concept of sadness in bees is less clear, studies have shown that they can display responses akin to emotional reactions, including pessimism under stress, which may imply a capacity for emotional experiences.”
~ Brave search, consolidated results quote
 
—-
 
Maximizing Energy Gradients:
 
“H.T. Odum also proposed a corollary of maximum power as the organisational principle of evolution, describing the evolution of microbiological systems, economic systems, planetary systems, and astrophysical systems. He called this corollary the maximum empower principle. This was suggested because, as S.E. Jorgensen, M.T. Brown, H.T. Odum (2004) note,
Maximum power might be misunderstood to mean giving priority to low level processes. … However, the higher level transformation processes are just as important as the low level processes. … Therefore, Lotka’s principle is clarified by stating it as the principle of self organization for maximum empower.”
~ Wikipedia
____
 
The Dawn of Man (monolith appears)
 
Meaning of The Monolith Revealed (spoiler: about the media)
____
 
Scratching The Surface (spoiler: about the media)

Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Sep 14 2026 5:01 utc | 92

the indifference you cultivate by this easily disprovable anti-scientific bullshit you claim to “know”, that’s the real enemy. 
Posted by: duck n cover | Sep 13 2026 18:30 utc | 45
 
We all confuse what we know with what we believe, as few of us actually know anything, which of course includes you and myself. Belief systems are a complex amalgamation of our childhood, parents, friends, environment, class, reading material, religion, politics and on it goes.
We are right within our own manufactured belief system, and little more, why so many seek confirmation bias. The old adage that empty vessels make the most noise is both clever and true.

Posted by: Organic | Sep 14 2026 5:04 utc | 93

Japan is nostalgic for its lost militantism.
 

Okinawa political shift clears way for Japan defense buildup near Taiwan
 
First conservative governor in 12 years backs military upgrades, air base relocation
 
September 14, 2026 12:42 JST
 
TOKYO — The election of Okinawa’s first conservative governor in 12 years could clear the way for a sweeping military buildup in Japan’s southernmost prefecture, with consequences stretching across the Taiwan Strait.
 
Genta Koja, backed by Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi’s ruling Liberal Democratic Party, defeated incumbent Denny Tamaki in Sunday’s gubernatorial election. Unlike Tamaki, Koja supports moving U.S. Marine Corps Air Station Futenma from the densely populated city of Ginowan to the coastal Henoko district of Nago.
 
His victory gives a boost to Takaichi’s government as it strengthens Japan’s defenses around the country’s southwestern islands in response to China’s growing military power.
 
Okinawa occupies a strategically critical position, with its main island less than 700 kilometers from Taiwan and the westernmost island of Yonaguni just 110 kilometers away. The prefecture forms part of the First Island Chain, a string of territories stretching from Japan through Taiwan to the Philippines that separates China’s coast from the western Pacific.
 
more ==> https://asia.nikkei.com/politics/okinawa-political-shift-clears-way-for-japan-defense-buildup-near-taiwan
 

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2026 5:28 utc | 94

Pakistan is paying down its GCC bilateral debts.

 
Pakistan’s $3bn bond sale signals shift away from G2G borrowing
 
Dependency on bilateral loans is waning, but experts say reliance on Chinese money remains
 
September 14, 2026 14:11 JST
 
ISLAMABAD — Pakistan raised a record $3 billion from global investors in its largest-ever international bond sale, underscoring the country’s gradual shift away from intergovernmental loans and helping Islamabad gain freer fundraising capacity regardless of its diplomatic circumstances.
 
…
 
According to government officials, who spoke to Nikkei Asia on background, the bond proceeds would repay a $3 billion loan from Saudi Arabia due next month. Riyadh extended the loan earlier this year when Pakistan repaid its $3.5 billion debt to the United Arab Emirates in one go in April.
 
full story ==> https://asia.nikkei.com/business/markets/bonds/pakistan-s-3bn-bond-sale-signals-shift-away-from-g2g-borrowing
 

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2026 5:37 utc | 95

~ Creatures of Infinity ~

“We are right within our own manufactured belief system, and little more, why so many seek confirmation bias. The old adage that empty vessels make the most noise is both clever and true.”
~ Organic | Sep 14 2026 5:04 utc | 93

Perhaps we are creatures of infinity– the cosmos, itself, peering at itself.
 
If the cosmos is infinite, then we are turtles all the way down.
 
…Ya gang of turtles, ya…
 
You have one turtle, Sabine Hossenfelder on her You Tube channel (media-alert! 😉 suggesting that we have no free will one year and then, just recently, based on some apparent research she just discovered, suggesting that maybe we do have free will after all. This after posting comments over the years under her and others’ videos about free will and suggesting in part that if we are creatures of infinity, then there are no initial conditions by which to calculate us and out behaviors. That we are essentially probabilistic! Unpredictable!
 
Neat, yes? 
 
I think so.

Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Sep 14 2026 5:38 utc | 96

Strange Bedfellow@92
 
 Thanks for this latest fascinating looking load-up for my poor aching head . I enjoyed watching ‘The Corporation’ again. Will throw this on the pile. Always been curious about spiders. Hopefully they survive if/when we are gone.
 
AI: ‘Alarm Bells Rang’
 
https://www.aljazeera.com/#flips-6405017628112

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 14 2026 5:52 utc | 97

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 14 2026 3:41 utc | 84
 
Steel plate, a welder and a 10 ton bottle jack.
 
If you don’t have the above just go to a metal fabrication shop and they could knock something up in a couple of hours.
 
Design – Use Chatgpt prompt :- design an olive oil press with the following dimensions <insert your dimensions> using a bottle jack. Size materials correctly for 5 ton & 10 ton sized jack.
 
Fun project for those so inclined.

Posted by: Persona Non Grata | Sep 14 2026 5:59 utc | 98

Olives contain ~10% – ~20% oil by weight,  contained in the juice. It’s about the only food oil source that doesn’t need chemical/mechanical methods for extraction,  although you improve the yield a lot by adding mechanical assistance.
 
Ancient method was to put the olives in a jar of water. As the oil rises to the surface, add more water and the floating oil overflows. Put your jar inside a bigger jar, and you get to collect the oil. Note that this takes weeks, and makes for pretty rancid, poor quality oil. The Italians call it “lampara” or lamp oil, because you wouldn’t want to eat it.
 
To make things go a bit faster, smash up your olives (grind them, pulp them, mortar and pestle, donkey and grind stone, food processor – whatever works).  Then “malax” the paste for an hour – stir it gently to allow the microscopic oil droplets to combine and so be easier to extract. Now, you can add water and float the oil away from the paste. If you get 10% yield  I would be astonished and impressed. Any oil at all will be a win.
 
An olive tree starts producing at around 5 years, and up to about 15 years will produce annually. After that, it tends to be bi-annual, as in one year you get fruit, the next not so much. Pruning makes a big difference, and will be required on a regular basis. One reasonably sized olive tree may produce ~50kg of fruit in a good year. 100 year old trees can do better, but can you wait that long? Your 2 trees may produce 10 – 15kg of fruit in the early years, which might give you 1 or 2 litres of oil. Maybe. Don’t forget they will need fertilizer in order to have enough energy to produce.  If you have ornamental olives they are probably generic “wild” olives, which are pretty productive, but the oil will be of very poor quality. You may have an oil producing variety, or an eating variety – eating olives have half the oil content of oil-producing varieties, even though each individual fruit is much bigger.
 
In conclusion – fun project, but if you want to make your own olive oil in sufficient quantities, buy a grove somewhere in the Mediterranean. 400 trees in Greece might cost €25,000, and would make maybe 3 tons of oil in a good year. That might make enough to pay for the cost of managing the land and harvesting, but it might not. Farming is a tricky proposition, especially if you are not in residence and have to pay for management. Wholesale price for extra virgin olive oil at the moment is around €3.50 a kilo (1kg =0.92 litre, ish), but that is pretty volatile – it may go up or down as the new harvest starts in 6 weeks or so. Next time you pay £30 for a half litre  boutique bottle of superior quality oil, remember the producer gets very little of that.
 
Sorry – I’ve gone on a bit too much. Pick your olives, have fun with them, and maybe get some home-pressed oil of your very own. 
 
Peanuts are good – food processor will make peanut butter, and the oil separates and floats on top. Not sure th5e grow well in the UK…
 
 
 

Posted by: Occasional poster | Sep 14 2026 6:23 utc | 99

Steel plate, a welder and a 10 ton bottle jack.
 
Posted by: Persona Non Grata | Sep 14 2026 5:59 utc | 98
 
—
 
That’s crazy!
 
If you want to smash the juices out of stuff just buy a Chinese expeller extractor that are purpose built for the job.
 
Specify the things you want to smash so the seller can equip the unit with the correctly dimensioned screw(s).
 
RG-311/RG-312 Hot and Cold Oil Press Stainless Steel Intelligent Temperature Control Oil Press
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expeller_pressing
 
 

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2026 6:36 utc | 100