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September 20, 2026
Iran Open Thread 2026-207
News & views related to the war on Iran …
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Ukraine and World Affairs (includes Iran/ME): Weekly Update, 18th September, 2026: May be Useful to Some: (3) Ukraine and World Affairs (includes Iran/ME): Weekly Update Posted by: The Busker | Sep 20 2026 13:58 utc | 1 So will Trump try something on in the next few days? Posted by: jpc | Sep 20 2026 14:07 utc | 2 Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 20 2026 14:10 utc | 3 michael j72 @ 3 Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 20 2026 14:19 utc | 5 Marandi with Diesen a few hours ago … Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 20 2026 14:32 utc | 6 ‘America must implement our conditions first’: Iran security chief lays out Tehran’s position
AlJazeera Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 20 2026 14:34 utc | 7 So will Trump try something on in the next few days? Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 20 2026 14:49 utc | 8 Hope Israel is on Iran’s bucket list this round. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 20 2026 14:51 utc | 9 40 mins – one year ago – still relevant Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 20 2026 14:53 utc | 10 Anyone? oldhippie | Sep 20 2026 | 5 Posted by: Hobbes | Sep 20 2026 14:57 utc | 11
Posted by: Amalek (ne exile) | Sep 20 2026 15:25 utc | 12 US Rules Out Direct Strikes on YAF Positions: Reports Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 20 2026 15:37 utc | 13 @Hobbes | Sep 20 2026 14:57 utc | 11 Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Sep 20 2026 15:51 utc | 14 For the first time in weeks, I’m seeing tankers transiting the Strait … three days in a row now. Posted by: The Owl | Sep 20 2026 15:57 utc | 15 jpc | Sep 20 2026 14:07 utc | 2 Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 20 2026 16:12 utc | 16 Do understand: Posted by: Hot Carl | Sep 20 2026 16:16 utc | 17 For the first time in weeks, I’m seeing tankers transiting the Strait … three days in a row now. Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 20 2026 16:17 utc | 18 “The United States has reportedly ruled out launching direct ‘offensive strikes’ against Yemeni Armed Forces positions in support of Saudi Arabia, CNN reported Sunday, citing an unnamed US official. ‘No offensive strikes’, the official told the network, according to the report. Posted by: Woke American | Sep 20 2026 16:19 utc | 19 Tom , 14, interesting list at the end of your post… for a long time now, many parts of the west could have pivoted to peer to peer electronic cash (And thereby dragged most of the world with them to some extent) but they all continue to walk in lock step to its opposition (yes, even trump and c o)… It is the only possible type of win that remains for the west but it means relinquishing control over transactions at a fundamental level! Posted by: E | Sep 20 2026 16:26 utc | 20
Posted by: titmouse | Sep 20 2026 16:26 utc | 21 Word is that the Saudis gave Iran a big payment, and also some indication that Iran has pushed the US warships further out. Ships can go through, if they arrange it with Iran. Not near the pre-war traffic, but weekly averages are around 10 a day, dropping off when the US does something stupid. Rumor is at least that the Saudis paid to have around a couple dozen tankers to pass. Even a US spin that they are being protected by the US navy, but they negotiated transit with Iran lol. Posted by: Woke American | Sep 20 2026 16:31 utc | 22 Letting a few tankers(paid and negotiated with Iran). Does a little seem why let them sell a little bit of oil. It is though a little bit, and transit paid for. It puts the US blockade in a position, do we interdict our propped up kingdom’s ships or let Iran have the win of even Saudis can get oil out, if they make an agreement with Iran. Maybe did come from India, but Persians have been playing chess long before it was introduced to the west.The Owl though is not very observant if they only see in the last 3 days a small number of ships transiting. US attacks do have it cut down at times, but a small number pass every day. Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 20 2026 16:31 utc | 23 Why does Iran threaten to hit American bases in the region but won’t attempt any serious attacks against the carriers in the ocean conducting the blockade? What am I missing? I mean both objects are legitimate military targets and in the case of the carriers/destroyers, there is no risk of civilian casualties and you aren’t targeting your neighbors. Posted by: bored | Sep 20 2026 16:47 utc | 24 I’m swamped by all the info going around, so won’t attempt to roundup even. Half an hour reading up on reports and not sure what to think. So I just leave a set of relevant links for anyone trying to figure out or follow what is going on, whichever suits anyone, or for various views as most sites have info the others don’t report: Region – steady and reliable enough: https://t.me/s/Middle_East_Spectator Gaza and region – mixture of faster and original reporting: https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en Region and world – reliable and varied, more political Iran based – reserved and thoughtful with original insight. https://t.me/s/FotrosResistancee Region, reasonably reliable and fast updating, original. Youssef Fares is good as well for Gaza and Palestine. A lot more I would like to add to the discussions, and so on, but cannot be on computer all day. For now, a lot of speculation on what is going on, censorship, meetings, unexplained explosions, conflict in Yemen and much more all going on near simultaneously. Posted by: Ornot | Sep 20 2026 16:48 utc | 25 Woke American | Sep 20 2026 16:31 utc | 22 I did recently see that the troop deployments in Europe from the US are going to be greatly reduced. Being played off as they didn’t help with Iran, but they are actually occupation forces. I have not read the UN charter recently to confirm what the German politician said, but they claimed in the UN charter, if they supply weapons or parts or anything determined to be aggressive against Russia, then it’s law, that Russia can hit them(same for Japan and Italy). No security council vote, it’s in the charter. Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 20 2026 16:51 utc | 26 bored | Sep 20 2026 16:47 utc | 24It won’t be reported, but there are indications that ships have been hit. Laundry fires that put a carrier out of service before it even got in theater as an example.Makes me think of the JFK secret societies speech, the commonly put out excepts from it frame it as against the secret societies, but the full speech at the press club was telling them not to report on US losses. Full speech vs the commonly used(and edited excerpts) Is really two different speeches. Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 20 2026 17:10 utc | 27 Thanks Ornot et al. Rhymerez@26 re: UN Charter: Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 20 2026 17:13 utc | 28 Ornot | Sep 20 2026 16:48 utc | 25 Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 20 2026 17:18 utc | 29 John Gilberts | Sep 20 2026 17:13 utc | 28Can not find the reference, it was I think a former member of the German parliament, putting out a red flag, thought it was an obnoxious claim, that it was in the UN charter that without security council anything, they could be hit by Russia, legally. It is in there though, that 107 section, any of those considered as Axis powers in WWII, they do anything supporting aggression against the original signatures on the charter, it’s legal to hit them. Eh, a little of an extension, as WWII wrapped up, the US took a hostile stance against the USSR. Patton was ah lets take Moscow(yea right, good general, but Russians took Berlin), would have taken Tokyo also, but WMDs used to have them sign treaty with the US instead. A little tangent, and also a bit off topic for the Iran thread, might should be in the Ukraine one. The targets of the atom bombs were not military, they were religious towns. Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 20 2026 17:33 utc | 30 @30 Rhymerez “A little tangent, and also a bit off topic for the Iran thread, might should be in the Ukraine one” The way things are looking we might just end up with a single thread, The War Thread. There are so many interconnections between the various conflicts that it is hardly possible to look on each in isolation. For example, if there was no Ukraine war, the meaning of the Iran war would be completely different. Here is Merz suggesting a re-appraidal of various aspects of life in europe: “…trust in the institutions of our country is sinking and is being actively undermined by radical parties left and right. In Germany and across Europe, we must fundamentally rethink freedom, everyday security, peace, and our own strengths and weaknesses…” Posted by: Ornot | Sep 20 2026 18:12 utc | 32 @28 John “President Pezeshkian will depart to New York for the UN General Assembly . I don’t trust this at all, and I wouldn’t put anything past America” MES Would not be surprised if ‘things happen’ while more moderate leaders are out of the country. OTOH all the stress going on now might be to set a backdrop to UN meetings. I would be guessing. Posted by: Ornot | Sep 20 2026 18:17 utc | 33 Not really lying. Just an up to date report on which faction is winning the argument at a given time. The US is in a bad place. I bet the discussions are very heated. Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 20 2026 18:21 utc | 34 “Seyed M. Marandi: U.S. Strike Imminent – Toward Total War in the Middle East” (??????????????????????????????) Posted by: WMG | Sep 20 2026 18:24 utc | 35 Rhymerez@29, Ornot@33: Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 20 2026 18:28 utc | 36 No More Missiles At Tel Aviv
And everyone just forgets about it as it does a genocide on Lebanon and Gaza. No more missiles at Tel Aviv.” Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 20 2026 18:43 utc | 37 Posted by: Hobbes | Sep 20 2026 14:57 utc | 11
Posted by: suzan | Sep 20 2026 19:09 utc | 38 Last blow up was after a bit of getting new batches of missiles, bombs, etc. Now that new carriers, supplies, air assets are in place it is time to blow stuff up in Iran. Another 10 day flare up before the mid term elections. Use it as cover for Israel to attack Lebanon again. Then the current batch of weapons will run out and another month or several of “cease fire” or what ever the term is until the US can scrape together another short attack. This will be repeated as long as the US can do it. Maybe 7 to 10 times more? With several months between strikes? 20-50 more months? The US navy and air assets should be pretty well trashed by then. Meanwhile the coups, color revolutions, etc will still march on as the West asserts what control it can over the globe. Posted by: jonny law | Sep 20 2026 19:23 utc | 39 Posted by: jonny law | Sep 20 2026 19:23 utc | 39 Posted by: Mike R | Sep 20 2026 19:47 utc | 40 As Craig Roberts said: Posted by: Minaa | Sep 20 2026 20:00 utc | 41 Neutrality Studies: Laith Marouf: ‘Yemen Escalates’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 20 2026 20:07 utc | 42 He’s got his answer. Posted by: jpc | Sep 20 2026 21:47 utc | 44 Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 20 2026 16:12 utc | 16 Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 20 2026 22:01 utc | 45 @44 jpc It’s freaky when they start speaking like that. Posted by: Ornot | Sep 20 2026 22:08 utc | 46 Reports of: Explosions Hormuz Heavy Saudi bombing and fierce clashes Yemen. Also… “American refueling aircraft stationed in Qatar are conducting air support missions near the Saudi border with Yemen, with no confirmation of their direct involvement in the raids on Ansar Allah in Yemen” TPO Posted by: Ornot | Sep 20 2026 22:14 utc | 47 Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 20 2026 16:12 utc | 16
It’s easily seen which group has the most to lose and therefore the most motivation. Posted by: Archetypex | Sep 20 2026 22:30 utc | 48 How unrealistic/realistic would be this scenario?
Been a long time reader of MoA but this is my first post. Posted by: DA | Sep 20 2026 22:40 utc | 49 Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 20 2026 22:45 utc | 50 NATO recon planes were all over the Baltic Sea and the Gulf of Finland this week……. Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 20 2026 23:04 utc | 51 Reports from TPO: Explosions Sanaa Posted by: Ornot | Sep 20 2026 23:09 utc | 52 TPO is also currently posting a lot of footage of a major arms depot explosion in Syria, that has been continuing for over an hour. Posted by: Ornot | Sep 20 2026 23:14 utc | 53
Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Sep 20 2026 23:19 utc | 54
Posted by: Tel | Sep 20 2026 23:37 utc | 55
Posted by: Mike R | Sep 20 2026 23:37 utc | 56 Since it is a slow day and the B1 posturing was all just psyop, time to catch up on some other conversations. Posted by: Suresh | Sep 20 2026 23:38 utc | 57 Breaking: Another Ammo Depot Blows Up in Syria (& vid) Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 20 2026 23:38 utc | 58 Merz is reminding me more and more of the dysfunctional Weimar governments………not a good look! Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 20 2026 23:42 utc | 59 Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 20 2026 23:50 utc | 60 tobias cole | Sep 20 2026 23:04 utc | 51 “This time, I am told, Iran will remove the gloves. No US asset in the region will be treated as beyond reach.” Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Sep 21 2026 0:14 utc | 62 Sunday Wire, Ep 613: Patrick Henningsen Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 21 2026 0:52 utc | 63 Posted by: Mike R | Sep 20 2026 19:47 utc | 40 I just look at the current state and figure it continues. Periodic attacks on Iran since Biden spaced by months of no attacks. 3-4 years worth. The effects are to cut oil supplies in the world, at the same time the US/EU controls the world with proxy wars, coups and color revolutions in Ukraine, Pakistan, Nepal, Africa(many), Myanmar, S. Korea, Philippines, S. America (many) and others. Another effect is to degrade the US weapons systems over years, did they not think that would happen? Even I see the US does not have the manufacturing capacity of the Korea/Vietnam years to lose thousands of air assets/year and continually run carrier fleets. The local arms industries in my US region are long closed down. Another 7 to 10 attacks on Iran and we will lose some of the expeditionary operations capability and be more like Russia, China, EU in the ability to project power. But we take vastly more countries by proxy, color revolutions and coups than any military op. Posted by: jonny law | Sep 21 2026 0:57 utc | 64 ^^ Meaning talk to me when my local or state government passes a law conveying the same sorts of protection to Ukraine in blatant violation of the First Amendment (and other precedents) that is bestowed on the foreign psuedo-nation known as “Israel.” Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 21 2026 1:05 utc | 65 see the 50:00 video at the second link Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 21 2026 1:11 utc | 66 Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Sep 20 2026 23:19 Posted by: Duck n cover | Sep 21 2026 1:37 utc | 68 @71 Posted by: paddy | Sep 21 2026 1:46 utc | 69 See how greedy Jews make people think some kind of revolution is occurring simply because the currency of capitalist exchange is moving from US dominated assets? Change the sign, change the exploitation. Posted by: Duck n cover | Sep 21 2026 1:49 utc | 70 Saudi Arabia, UAE* Helping US, Israelis to Fulfill Their Mission in Region: Analyst (& vid) Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 21 2026 2:10 utc | 71 NYT runs out of ideas, takes to trolling: “New York Times, citing U.S. administration officials, reports that President Trump has been very indecisive on a strike against Ansarallah, with him flip-flopping on the subject multiple times before ultimately canceling as the strike was about to begin. On Wednesday this week, President Trump was opposed to strikes against Ansarallah, but had changed his mind and favored strikes on Thursday following a phone call with KSA’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. But by the time strikes were set to begin this weekend, Trump had changed his mind again and canceled strikes. Most of Trump’s inner circle is deeply skeptical of strikes against Ansarallah, NYT reports” Tabz A fake fake fake ? He won’t like that I guess… Posted by: Ornot | Sep 21 2026 2:29 utc | 72 @ Ornot | Sep 21 2026 2:29 utc | 80 with the latest Trump TACO…thx Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 21 2026 2:37 utc | 73 I am reading about a bunch of strikes in Syria and can only expect it is from Occupied Palestine……. wondering what this means? Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 21 2026 2:46 utc | 74 Truck Driver Goes Off About The Cost Of Trump’s America (&vid) Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 21 2026 3:16 utc | 75 Mr Psycho @ 81 Posted by: Bingo | Sep 21 2026 4:17 utc | 76 From Middle East Spectator
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 21 2026 4:27 utc | 77 Should be the Trump side and the Pentagon side…first line. Posted by: Bingo | Sep 21 2026 4:27 utc | 78 yeah, a real ‘friend’ of the Palestinians there Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 21 2026 5:11 utc | 79 crude down $2.40 at 93.75. Posted by: arby | Sep 21 2026 1:16 utc | 67 Posted by: Thunderdownunder | Sep 21 2026 5:39 utc | 80 Lame. No organization whatsoever, just bitching at others. Posted by: Eyeballs focsed | Sep 21 2026 6:01 utc | 81 Follow up to Col. Baud’s chat with Nima re Oriental thought (Civilizational States) is an outline of Alaistair Crooke’s talk given at the Higher School of Economics in Moscow on the 7th of September this year. Posted by: Suresh | Sep 21 2026 6:17 utc | 82 Videos of Unidentified Object in Skies Above Tehran (& vid) Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 21 2026 6:41 utc | 83 Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 20 2026 14:19 utc | 5 Posted by: Lantern Dude | Sep 21 2026 6:56 utc | 84 I concur with “DA” re: comment #49, were I Trump or the president that would be my plan. Posted by: NATO Blues | Sep 21 2026 7:02 utc | 85 BTW – ever since the great financial Crisis an increasing record of US citizens are making the (expensive) decision to exit their US citizenship. From wiki – From 2014 to 2016, an average of about five thousand U.S. citizens gave up their citizenship each year. These numbers have risen by nearly ten times between 2005 and 2015, though they remain only about three times the annual numbers in the 1970s Posted by: ДжММ | Sep 21 2026 7:22 utc | 86 Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 21 2026 7:25 utc | 87 michaelj72 3 Posted by: Giyane | Sep 21 2026 7:51 utc | 88 Nasrallah was right. so was soleimani. The goal of US out of the region is very doable, in our lifetime. Posted by: annie | Sep 21 2026 7:53 utc | 89 @annie | Sep 21 2026 7:53 utc | 89 Posted by: necromancer | Sep 21 2026 8:11 utc | 90 Syrian Girl Posted by: Menz | Sep 21 2026 8:18 utc | 91 michaelj72 87 Posted by: Giyane | Sep 21 2026 8:54 utc | 92 “This has the ring of orchestrated violence…” Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 21 2026 9:01 utc | 93 Have relatshonships between the saudi’s and UAE broken down ? Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 21 2026 9:07 utc | 94 Posted by: Menz | Sep 21 2026 8:18 utc | 91 Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Sep 21 2026 9:13 utc | 95 Ornot | Sep 21 2026 2:29 utc | 72 Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 21 2026 9:34 utc | 97 Giyane | Sep 21 2026 8:54 utc | 92 Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 21 2026 9:51 utc | 98
And everyone just forgets about it as it does a genocide on Lebanon and Gaza. No more missiles at Tel Aviv.” Friends in high places. Everywhere. Posted by: Amalek (né Exile) | Sep 21 2026 9:57 utc | 99
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