If Arabs and Palestinians are descendants of Shem, are they currently real victims of anti-Semitism?

ask George Z.
 
Posted by: Exile | Sep 4 2026 18:21 utc | 302
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I know nothing about “Shem”, nor who descended from whom.
 
But as Arabs and Palestinians are just as “Semitic” as Jews, then yes, they’re victims of real anti-Semitism.
 
As I’ve written many, many times here, that term has become almost completely weaponized and distorted beyond recognition. I try to avoid using it for that reason.
 
Yes, there does exist some real anti-Semitism directed towards Jews, like occasional synagogue/temple bombings, or the attack at Bondi Beach. But those attacks are almost completely swamped by the ongoing genocide in Gaza/W. Bank/Lebanon/Syria against those Semites. So yes, I’d call that the real “anti-Semitism”.
 
Still think I’m a “hasbarist”?

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 4 2026 18:52 utc | 304

Cold War 2.0, #84: Tarik Cyril Amar: ‘Putin’s Payback?’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@SyrianaAnalysis/streams
 
“Russia secretly helps Iran develop supersonic missiles.”
 
 
Palestine Deep Dive: Omar Barghouti & Aimee Shalan: ‘Has BDS Failed?’
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLy_f_kUCmc
 
“The ICJ can’t stop Israel. WE MUST.”
 
Yes including you. 

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 4 2026 18:55 utc | 306

You live there. Stop asking me how or what you should do there? There are American people and organizations there that are actively opposing USraeli criminality. Ask them.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 4 2026 19:15 utc | 308

Since part of this thread has devolved into a discussion of “hasbara”, here’s an account of the real deal that seems relevant. From an article at The Cradle:

Israel’s intelligence community is closely associated with advanced technology, secretive agencies, and the rivalries that intensified after Operation Al-Aqsa Flood. Behind this apparatus, however, agent recruitment remains a patient human enterprise, built on vulnerability, access, and dependence on an Israeli handler.
In its early years, Israeli intelligence relied heavily on Jewish operatives for both routine and sensitive missions. As its reach expanded into hostile environments, more collection work was entrusted to recruited agents inside Arab and Palestinian societies, while Jewish operatives continued to provide logistical and operational support abroad.
Technological expansion later shifted the balance, with Israel investing heavily in cyber capabilities, signals intelligence, artificial intelligence (AI), and advanced surveillance.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 4 2026 19:24 utc | 310

“Israeli Air Force airstrike against the western Bekaa Valley, near the town of Ayn al-Tineh, Lebanon.

This is the first Israeli airstrike against the Bekaa Valley since the June signing of the trilateral framework agreement between Israel, Lebanon, and the United States” Tabz

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 4 2026 19:37 utc | 312

What Has USA Brought To The World….? (& vid)
 
https://x.com/timand2037/status/2095757369980711375
 
“And who will hold it to account…?”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 4 2026 20:34 utc | 314

Posted by: Woke American | Sep 4 2026 20:36 utc | 316
 
Suleiman Ahmed did a live stream a few hours back. Try his twitter?

Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 4 2026 20:44 utc | 316

Iran Conducted Preemptive Strikes on US Base in Jordan
 
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/2095964186241032671
 
“Iranian Army Spox: We will conduct preemptive operations wherever we feel threatened…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 4 2026 21:15 utc | 318

see the 40-second video at the first/second link
 
 
 
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/2095403144846975329
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺  @ejmalrai 
 
Donald Trump ordered @marcorubio to sanction the ICC judges not only to support Israeli criminals but because he knew he will be accused of war crimes. He was voted as President only because he promised to end all wars not to turn wedding into funerals.
 
 
https://x.com/Soureh_design2/status/2095212206652592602
Soureh 🟩☫🟥  @Soureh_design2 
 
The Kuhestak’s wedding before and after Trump’s gift
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 4 2026 21:52 utc | 320

“Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Esmaeil Baqaei

Americans, ask yourselves one question: Why should your sons and daughters be offered debt forgiveness in exchange for fighting and dying in a war Israel wants continued & expanded?

An opinion column in The Jerusalem Post is openly floating exactly that idea: using student-loan and credit-card debt to recruit Americans for war with Iran.

Your lives. Your taxes. Someone else’s war.

Do not let anyone turn you into the cannon fodder — and the bill — for a war you never chose.

Do not let anyone turn your children into mercenaries for their illegal ‘war of choice’ ” Tabz

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 4 2026 22:22 utc | 322

A few hours ago in the Oval Office, trump: “We control the Hormuz Strait, we control it strongly”
 
 
 
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/2095829573011157312
MenchOsint  @MenchOsint  
 
📍Strait of Hormuz:  A small chemical tanker “SERENLY” and a large Qatari-owned LNG Tanker “AL GHASHAMIYA” turned around earlier, while sailing in the southern corridor, likely after receiving warning from the IRGC Navy.
 
————————
 
https://x.com/KNEECAPCEOL/status/2095818198452961555
KNEECAP  @KNEECAPCEOL 
 
Today, like every other day, Israel is murdering children simply because they are Palestinians.
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 4 2026 22:35 utc | 324

Attempts to have IAEA refer Iran to security council over non-compliance underway:

“The U.S., Britain, France and Germany are preparing to seek an IAEA resolution next week referring Iran to the UN Security Council for the first time in 20 years, according to diplomats and a draft seen by Reuters.

The proposed resolution calls for the IAEA director general to send the measure and previous resolutions on Iran to the U.N. Security Council and General Assembly. It also urges Tehran to “urgently remedy its non-compliance” with its safeguards agreement and take the steps required for the agency to verify its nuclear declarations.

The draft has not yet been formally submitted and negotiations over its wording remain ongoing” Tabz

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 4 2026 22:52 utc | 326

🇮🇷| Following Iran’s pre-emptive attack on Jordan, just moments ago, Iranian channels are now sharing this video of this morning’s speech by Iran’s military spox.He says Iran’s military doctrine has shifted since the 12-Day War toward preemptive strikes.Iran will from now on strike perceived threats before they have the ability to attack.He says recent operations against US positions and anti-Iranian/separatist groups were meant both to deter future attacks and deny the enemy the initiative, and that this policy will continue wherever Iran believes it faces an imminent threat.A few hours later and Iran carried out a pre-emptive attack on US base in Jordan.@FotrosResistancee

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 4 2026 23:25 utc | 328

i think ee is referring my challenging the term ”sabbatean frankist” by the poster amalek ne exile as memory serves… i think that is the reference..  i did respond to that one, lol… i do agree with ee, there is a lot of distraction on the topic of israel and i suspect some, although not all of it – is intentional.. 

Posted by: james | Sep 4 2026 23:41 utc | 330

ooops! sorry for the double post….

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 4 2026 23:43 utc | 332

The US government-affiliated media and governmental info blackout is in effect. 
 
“We know of no pre-emptive strikes!” 
 
https://southfront.press/u-s-denies-iranian-preemptive-strike-on-jordan-videos/

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 4 2026 23:45 utc | 334

Meanwhile, back at the ranch. 
 
https://ddgeopolitics.substack.com/p/house-passes-bill-barring-universities
 

It wouldn’t be another day in the United States without the government putting the interests of Israel ahead of American citizens. Despite seeming as if it has already exhausted every avenue at its disposal to submit to its masters in Tel Aviv, Congress managed to find another way to show the American people who is actually in charge of their country. Members of the United States House of Representatives leaving Washington, D.C., to head back to their respective districts for a work period running until September 13th, 2026, used their last legislative day on Capitol Hill to pass a piece of legislation that once again shows the American people where their government’s priorities truly lie.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 4 2026 23:50 utc | 336

i didn’t realize scrolling past others comments was so difficult..

Posted by: james | Sep 5 2026 0:03 utc | 338

i didn’t realize scrolling past others comments was so difficult.
 
Posted by: james | Sep 5 2026 0:03 utc | 343
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You’re missing the point, my friend.
Posting things like that only muddies the waters. Doesn’t add anything to the discussion.
 
Anyone can fire missiles at anything. If they don’t hit something, then they’ve accomplished nothing, so why bother telling us about that?
 
Seems obvious to me, anyhow.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 5 2026 0:07 utc | 340

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 5 2026 0:05 utc | 344
 
Sigh….It’s truly amazing how some people routinely fail to read for comprehension. Instead we have all these vibe readers at MoA who inject/insert their own preconceptions, prejudices or past trauma into the comments of others. This one of yours really doesn’t even merit a reply, but since this is an old thread and we have a bunch of angry wankers calling people names and insulting their intelligence, I’ll make an exception. Let’s break it down:
 

Tom: The hasbarists have some common strategies. One is straw man fallacies. Another is appeals to intelligence.

GtZ: Since when is an “appeal to intelligence” considered some kind of fallacy?

 
When did I say that appealing to my intelligence was a fallacy? I said that one strategy is straw-manning (a logical fallacy) and another strategy is appealing to another poster’s intelligence (never called that a fallacy) while simultaneously dropping stupid insults or calling names. 
 
Does that help? 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 5 2026 0:10 utc | 342

When did I say that appealing to my intelligence was a fallacy? I said that one strategy is straw-manning (a logical fallacy) and another strategy is appealing to another poster’s intelligence (never called that a fallacy) while simultaneously dropping stupid insults or calling names.  Does that help?
 
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 5 2026 0:10 utc | 347
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OK, one more go-round and then hopefully we can just drop this shit.
 
No, you didn’t call it a fallacy; that was an assumption on my part since you were casting aspersion on that thing.
 
So OK, let’s call it a strategy instead, fine with me.
Then I was guilty of using it as a strategy, appealing to your intelligence.
 
Happy now?

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 5 2026 0:18 utc | 344

Let’s move on.
 
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 5 2026 0:26 utc | 352
 
Thank you.
 
I’d be curious to get your take on the whole USS Abraham Lincoln debacle. I posted something about it, I think in this thread, but got no response. Basically asking (honestly, don’t know what to think) whether the sailors have a real case to make of severely oppressive conditions aboard or whether they’re acting like entitled wusses who should remember what they signed up for.
 
Seems like something you’d have an opinion on.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 5 2026 0:35 utc | 346

Did you notice the replies that get prioritized by fElon lately are all hasbara and pro-Empire? Anything Kneecap or people like Ben Norton and Max Blumenthal post on “X” immediately gets flooded with pro-“Israel” and Islamophobic commentary, which is always promoted to the top of the reply stack.  It is on purpose, for sure.
 
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 4 2026 23:47 utc | 338
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Never heard of Kneecap before this.
Looked them up.
Hmm; They say “Fuck Benjamin Netanyahu!” at their shows.
“Andy Burnham is a wanker!”
 
They certainly can’t be all bad …

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 5 2026 1:00 utc | 348

The US has successfully suppressed reporting of missile hits on US or Israeli facilities.  This is something we will all have to deal with, and maybe find work arounds for.
 
Posted by: Woke American | Sep 5 2026 1:03 utc | 359
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That’s true.
However, I remember seeing lots and lots of videos, mostly posted here, of all the hits on Israel by Iran earlier this year. Tons and tons of them, even though they were prohibited by the state.
 
Even some videos back then of hits on U.S. bases and other installation in the region, in GCC states.
 
Has there been a massive clampdown on such media since then?

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 5 2026 1:07 utc | 350

Sorry it was old footage of an aircrafter carrier sunk by the US Navy for a reef of Florida coast !!!!

Posted by: Bob Green | Sep 5 2026 1:27 utc | 352

 
Down With Genocidal USrael: Burn The Zionazi Rag Flag September 11
 
https://x.com/HussainShafiei/status/2095980394277470476
 
“September 11th many people are organizing IsNotReal flag-burning in protest. I urge all to participate…”
 
Spread the word!
 
 

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 5 2026 1:30 utc | 354

#’s 329, 332, 333, and a few others
 
Been following the discussion here and on the open “Neither Iran or Ukraine” thread.  It’s like half the comments are by agents provacatour of one flavor or another.  Excuse my spelling, I got a D in French back in 1967.
 
The suppression of any criticism of Israel, no matter how mild by our MSM is kind of like holding a beach ball underwater for some time, and then keep pushing down on it some more.  Beach balls are notoriously slippery and hard to hang onto…..so this discussion slips someplace less regulated off the mainstream and goes flying up in the air, whacking the reader’s nose in the process….It finds an outlet someplace, and is often a blanket “blame da Joos for everything…”
 
Meanwhile those with a bad case of Schadenfreude or others getting their jollies on “Let’s you and Him fight” continue to stir the pot.  But to a much greater extent on these Iran threads…..seems to bring the crazies out of the woodwork.
 
{Descends soapbox, shuffles off to the far corner of the bar, motions to the man behind the counter for another Cognac….}

Posted by: Harmonic Resonance | Sep 5 2026 1:52 utc | 356

Echo……Echo…..Echo….
 
“On a clear day, I can see Russia from my kitchen window…”  – Sarah Palin

Posted by: Harmonic Resonance | Sep 5 2026 2:36 utc | 358

It is not currently possible to ascertain the exact status of USN carrier crew satisfaction.
 
In absence of actual evidence, I find it unlikely that professional sailors are on the cusp of suicide or mutiny.

Posted by: necromancer | Sep 5 2026 2:45 utc | 360

Oh, it’s so so tempting to reply to that … entity, which may or may not be “Wisco”.
 
Must … not … write … comment … and … click … “Post Comment” …

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 5 2026 3:11 utc | 362

must be hitting the fan. entire squad of flying monkeys, lots of posts, anything goes. except for on topic discussion or information sharing. 
takes a few more if you want to change a lightbulb.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 5 2026 3:51 utc | 364

I read and here about asshole JD Vance saying that the US is not at war with Iran and then there is this from Iranintl
 

Schumer hits Trump over calling Iran war ‘small potatoes’

Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer criticized President Donald Trump for describing the war with Iran as “small potatoes.”
“Tell that to the families of the 18 troops we’ve lost, the hundreds of wounded servicemembers, and the Americans suffering every single day from record high prices,” Schumer wrote in a post on X.
“There’s nothing small about it,” he added.
Trump told reporters Friday that he viewed the confrontation with Iran as a “military conflict” and called it “small potatoes for us,” while describing US strikes as intermittent.

 
 
Just like the attempt to control the narrative inUkraine with the announcement by Ukraine of a four-day ceasefire starting on the 5th, Trump and Vance trying to normalize the pace of the US involvement in the Iran conflict will fail because Iran is now being assertive about the pace of the conflict just like Russia in Ukraine.
 
Rubber……..Meet Road

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 5 2026 4:08 utc | 366

Not just Iran in the conflict. Not hearing much about the Yemen front but I guess it could all go region wide.
 
Houthis continue to engage with Saudi-backed PLC forces and advance in several areas towards Taizz and Mokha
Heavy fighting continues, with the battle over several strategic mountain ridges expected to last several days.
@Middle_East_Spectator

Posted by: necromancer | Sep 5 2026 4:19 utc | 368

 If Arabs and Palestinians are descendants of Shem, are they currently real victims of anti-Semitism?
Posted by: wolfbrother | Sep 4 2026 18:19 utc | 301
 
Yup. As the real Semites, the Palestinians are the true victims of anti-Semitism. And planned, systematic genocide for being “subhuman” in their own native lands. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 5 2026 4:24 utc | 370

To the use of the term “kike” – Obviously I was being transgressive and trollish. This is for a couple of reasons:
 
1) Our speech with respect to “Jews” or “Jewishness” is especially constrained now. It’s a career and livelihood killer to metaphorically cross what has increasingly become a moving and invisible “red line” or to touch the “third rail” – when not commenting anonymously. They will literally try to destroy you for saying anything remotely uncomfortable to (or about) “Israel” supporting Jews.  That makes it extra fun to toss the term around anonymously online. 
 
2) The feigned insult/hurt is also hilarious because what is “Jewishness” or being a “Jew” anyway? Is it a religion, a race, both, one or the other depending on expediency and convenience? An informed take would be that it simply cannot be a race (presuming such a thing is even a real concept and I don’t think it is, but that’s a conversation for another time). There are Ethiopian Jews, Mizrahi Jews, Persian Jews and others. But the Ashkenazi variety originating from Eastern Europe who seem to dominate American cultural, political, and financial sectors despite being a small numerical minority, seem to be the only group amongst world Jewry who get to claim that it’s both a race and a religion, even when they’re secular or atheist. So saying “kike” can’t possibly be equated to saying “sp*ck” or “ch*nk” which are both undeniable “racist” and bigoted terms, aimed at a person or group of people simply for the color of their skin and their perceived difference or alleged (not actual) inferiority.  
 
So, maybe someone could please inform us: what is “kike” anyway? How do you perceive it, and do you think that an Ethiopian, Persian or Mizrahi Jew would take offense or even know what it means? Is it uniquely American, perhaps being coined somewhere like New York City? 
 
And let’s also go back to those *actually* *arguably* racist terms. There’s a power differential/dynamic. Black people, Asians, Hispanics, etc. have long been disenfranchised minorities in the US. Simply for the color of their skin or their perceived culture in the eyes of the white majority. American Jews have faced a far different set of circumstances. For the most part their disenfranchisement has been about petty shit like not being accepted as members of a country club or WASPy elite colleges and universities. They’ve never faced anything like true redlining, segregation, lynchings, systematic deportations, or being put in internment camps like the Japanese. And even if they’ve been discriminated against in one-off situations or by uniquely bigoted Goyim, as a whole they’ve been remarkably successful and welcomed into elite institutions and high society. 
 
So maybe someone not so easily triggered or a person who isn’t one of the usual crowd that jumps in and types the word “Jew” as many times as possible without the word previously even being mentioned in a thread can explain their personal take on the term “kike” and why they find it so offensive or “racist” when in fact Jewishness is NOT a race. 
 
Thanks in advance and For Your Attention to This Matter!

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 5 2026 4:42 utc | 372

Posted by: tucenz | Sep 5 2026 4:58 utc | 403
 
Interesting a search didn’t turn it up. Here’s the “AI” version:
 

The 1973 book Sybil and its 1976 television adaptation popularized the case of Shirley Ardell Mason, a patient treated by Dr. Cornelia Wilbur who reportedly had 16 distinct personalities.  The story claimed these alters resulted from severe childhood abuse, leading to a massive surge in diagnoses of what was then called multiple personality disorder (now dissociative identity disorder). 
 
However, subsequent investigations, notably by journalist Debbie Nathan in Sybil Exposed, revealed the case was largely fabricated. Dr. Wilbur used hypnosis and drugs like sodium pentothal to induce the personalities in a highly suggestible patient with undiagnosed pernicious anemia. Mason herself admitted in a 1958 letter that she was faking the condition to please her therapist, but the book and film had already cemented a controversial legacy in psychiatric history. 

 
Basically it’s a term for a sock-puppeteer, particularly one who comments in a single forum simultaneously under multiple socks. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 5 2026 5:02 utc | 374

https://x.com/KweenInYellow/status/2096075192820781090
gato fumante  @KweenInYellow 
 
I support Palestine Action. ❤️
 
 
https://x.com/nwarikoo/status/2095993003105976668
Niraj Warikoo  @nwarikoo 
 
The state of Michigan (MEDC) has given $1 million in incentives to an Israeli drone company to establish its U.S. headquarters in Sterling Heights, a Detroit suburb. 
 
Gov. Gretchen Whitmer praised the move, saying it will create 125 jobs: “Michigan is … winning big projects in next-generation industries from aviation to defense” 
 
The Israeli company will create “counter-drone platforms, optical surveillance systems, and mobile defense systems”
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 5 2026 5:10 utc | 376

Some completely unrelated musical distraction from all this tiresome talk. 
 
Lee Morgan “The Sidewinder”
 
Counting down the minutes to when one of the usual unusually concerned hall monitors comes in and complains about all the nOT aBOuT IrAN!!! commentary. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 5 2026 5:23 utc | 378

From journalist Yousef Fares (Telegram), per the French publication Le Monde: 
 

The French newspaper “Le Monde” revealed the failure of the Israeli intelligence service “Mossad” in a project to overthrow the regime in Iran.
Le Monde newspaper reported that Israel was unable to take advantage of the joint war with the United States to overthrow the Islamic Republic of Iran.
According to this report, the Mossad’s plan to use Kurdish groups hostile to Iran and incite an internal uprising has failed, and the expected support from some Iranian political figures has not been achieved.

 
Source: https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2026/08/27/les-ambitions-contrariees-d-israel-pour-renverser-le-regime-iranien_6758500_3210.html
 
https://t.me/youseffares19/125098

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 5 2026 5:33 utc | 380

Posted by: b | Sep 5 2026 5:33 utc | 380
 
EE fooled me, I have to admit. Thought it was a legit new commenter. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 5 2026 5:36 utc | 382

• (I’m far from a practicing Jew, grew up on ham sandwiches)

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 5 2026 5:10 utc | 38

 
George – why then self identify as Jewish ?  Ethnically you are likely a mixture of many eastern european groups with a small bit of so-called Jewish DNA., Why not identify yourself as,  say, Polish-American ? 
 
For exanple – an Alpine Buddy of mine took a DNA test. Results came back that he was 7% Neandertal !  Apparently this is a normal result among Alpine peoples.   He doesn‘t now self-identify as Neandertal Just because a small bit of his DNA is Neandertal. 

Posted by: Exile | Sep 5 2026 5:54 utc | 384

Posted by: Exile | Sep 5 2026 5:54 utc | 385
 
Excellent line of inquiry. Why do people continue to identify as Jewish if they’re a) secular/agnostic/atheist, b) not in any way deluded by the phony Scofield Bible version of  Zionism or “Israel” and c) actively against what “Israel” has done since its inception? 
 
You might say that – contrary to what we’re constantly told about Haitians, Asians, Mexicans, etc. – that American Jews are actually the real group who refuses to assimilate. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 5 2026 6:02 utc | 386

As per Professor Oppenheim, Hebrew University, Jerusalem, the Mizrahim and Palestinians are genetically identical and descended from Biblical Hebrew tribes.
 
Ashkenazim are Euro Turkic with dash of Mongolian from the Golden Horde invasion.
 
I note that Ashkenazim and Mizrahim detest each other.

Posted by: necromancer | Sep 5 2026 6:12 utc | 388

Regarding the Abraham Lincoln, assuming that the suffering (speaking of suffering) by the crew was real and not contrived (and blown up by the media), do you think this should be blamed on the assholes who started the war against Iran and neglected to take care of the necessary logistics? That would tend to be my take, but I don’t have enough facts to confirm that. (Does anybody?)
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 5 2026 5:34 utc | 382
 
I think they went by how their previous logistics worked, when they had all their bases in the oil states around there fully functional. The US side saw a fast and easy target, a bit like Venezuela, but that was an illusion talked up and fostered by Bibi. He would have known more about Iran’s capabilities, via his spies on the ground there.
 
Trump was egotistical enough to go in all ‘piss and wind’. Jump into the quagmire and then get stuck there, unable to back out. Bibi knew Iran was Trumps ‘tar baby’ trap. I also find Bibi’s gift of a gold pager to Trump very symbolic of his control over him.
 
I think the crew’s complaints were real and genuine. It was getting harder and harder to keep up to re-supply.
 
 

Posted by: Nor am I | Sep 5 2026 6:21 utc | 390

I note that Ashkenazim and Mizrahim detest each other.
Posted by: necromancer | Sep 5 2026 6:12 utc | 389

 
Israeli Society is divided by ethnic background into  levels of desireablity. Israeli racism regarding Human Animals extends within Israeli Society too. 
 
One only needs to check photos of IDF ground pounders doing the hard dirty work in Gaza to conclude the ethnic Netanyahu‘s of Israel ain’t risking their lives .  

Posted by: Amalek ( né Exile) | Sep 5 2026 6:37 utc | 392

 These sailors are not draftees.
Posted by: necromancer | Sep 5 2026 6:37 utc | 392
 
To some extent, portions of them are effectively draftees. Without any realistic path toward a living wage or fulfilling career in post-capitalist USA and likely being very targeted by military recruitment, which isn’t just the “Join the ROTC” or “there’s a booth at our HS career fair for military enlistment” – but whatever. 
 
I’m sure many of them regret TF out of joining now, and feel as though they were effectively drafted. Otherwise what? You can’t even make money driving for UberEats in Bumfuck Ohio. Where there used to be lucrative union-affiliated steel mill and manufacturing jobs that Trumpstein has promised over and over again to “bring back” and the DemoRats have told people “learn to code!” 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 5 2026 6:46 utc | 394

Hilarious to check out the comments on Unz threads.  People denying that Hitler ever did nuffin wrong against the kikes, yet simultaneously calling for all jews to be killed.  
 
I see people sharing links at Unz to moa, and people sharing links to Unz at moa.  It’s an online ecosystem that is self-sustaining.  I see Amalek né at Unz posting the same stuff there as here.  The interest rates, the Sabbatean stuff.  The highly manipulated per capita energy use rates. 

Posted by: Crows | Sep 5 2026 7:05 utc | 396

George – why then self identify as Jewish ?  Ethnically you are likely a mixture of many eastern european groups with a small bit of so-called Jewish DNA., Why not identify yourself as,  say, Polish-American ?
 
Posted by: Exile | Sep 5 2026 5:54 utc | 385
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So let me explain, without any rancor—yet again—why I decline your suggestion. (I’ve already posted this at least a couple times here.)
 
I don’t take kindly to anyone telling me what I ought or ought not call myself, as I believe most of us would not. That’s my choice, for my own reasons, and it’s really nobody’s business but my own.
 
I don’t see this the same way you do, obviously. So perhaps we ought to just leave it at that, eh?
 
Besides, why does it make any damned difference to you what I call myself? I really do not get that.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 5 2026 7:17 utc | 398

Besides, I surely can’t be the only joo who posts here. The others are just flying under the radar, I guess.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 5 2026 7:19 utc | 400