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September 2, 2026
Iran Open Thread 2026-192
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🇺🇸🏴☠️ Trump wondered if the Strait of Hormuz should be renamed the “Trump Strait,” “since it is under U.S. control.”
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/197895
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 2 2026 18:04 utc | 3
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/2095069517248405561
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
BreakingNews: Iran said two tankers hit mines while navigating in the unsafe and non-designated route in the Strait of Hormuz.
This information is enough for shipowners and insurance companies to stop taking any risk in Hormuz and spoils Donald Trump’s attempt to calm oil price.
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https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/irgc-retaliates–targets-us-commander-s-headquarters-at-kuwa
IRGC retaliates, targets US commander’s headquarters at Kuwait base
The IRGC’s ground forces launched a missile-and-drone attack targeting the US commander’s headquarters at Ali Al Salem Air Base in Kuwait.
The Islamic Revolution Guard Corps (IRGC) says its ground forces launched a missile-and-drone attack against a US military base in Kuwait at dawn on Wednesday, targeting the headquarters and residence of a US commander at Ali Al Salem Air Base.
In a statement, the IRGC Public Relations office said the attack came in response to a US strike on a residential home in Sirik, which killed four people, including a child, and injured nearly 70 others, in a “grave crime and a violation of human rights.”…..
The IRGC Public Relations office also addressed the Kuwaiti people directly, emphasizing Iran’s longstanding ties with Kuwait.
“O noble Kuwaiti people,” the statement said, “You know very well the love and ties we have with you. What pains and concerns us is the occupation of Islamic lands by the US army, which kills children and engages in terrorism.”…….
Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 2 2026 18:22 utc | 5
Trump strait would go well with the new trump coin just now being produced.
Is ther no limit to the boys ego and vanity.
How about ‘trump world’ (copyright mark2)
trump planet (copyrivht mark2)
‘Trump universe’ (copyright mark2)
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 2 2026 18:31 utc | 6
— 🇮🇱/🇮🇷 Israeli PM Netanyahu:
‘The regime in Iran will fall. We will bring it down. It is already on its last legs.
All our systems, under my guidance, act to overthrow this regime’
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/36276
Projection.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 2 2026 18:31 utc | 7
“O noble Kuwaiti people,” the statement said, “You know very well the love and ties we have with you. What pains and concerns us is the occupation of Islamic lands by the US army, which kills children and engages in terrorism.”…….
Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 2 2026 18:22 utc | 5
Very smooth diplomatic offensive. We have to target US assets because they are directly attacking us. Once the US is out of your nation, then full diplomatic relations should be resumed and maintained.
Posted by: Woke American | Sep 2 2026 18:34 utc | 8
see the third link. 20th century nazis supporting 21st century nazis
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/36274#
Middle East Spectator — MES
—❗️🇺🇸/🇮🇶/🇮🇶 NEW: Sheikh Akram Al-Kaabi, the Secretary General of the Nujabaa Resistance Movement, one of the largest factions of the Islamic Resistance in Iraq, warns that it will engage in a ‘decisive battle with the occupying forces’ if the U.S. military does not withdraw from Iraq by the September 30th deadline
He stated: ‘If even a single soldier remains after this date, we will not let him return safely; we will send him back to America as a lifeless corpse.‘
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https://x.com/Villgecrazylady/status/2095176196149391418
Mel @Villgecrazylady
The Jerusalem Post is now running editorials with ideas for how the Pentagon could recruit enough American soldiers to launch a ground invasion of Iran.
They want to exploit the crippling debt young Americans are carrying by offering them a chance at forgiveness if they’re willing to go die for Israel in the Persian Gulf.
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https://t.me/me_observer_TG/1081229#
Middle East Observer
⚡️ Germany agrees to export licenses for arms to Israel worth 799 million euros in the first half of 2026, approximately four times the total of 2025.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 2 2026 18:47 utc | 10
6 minute video https://x.com/pakistanwalli/status/2030077999736050163Pakistan Walli @pakistanwalli Journalist name: Braj Mohan Singh – Affiliation: Sadhna News Transcript: When a missile strikes, it does not differentiate between whether you are Indian or Israeli (Indians face racism in Israel). It’s just rhetoric that bunkers protect you. I saw people dying in 100-foot-deep bunkers, and they (Israelis) don’t tell you the facts. Press freedom in India is much better than in Israel. We are thankful to the Indian government, it provides details.
In Israel, the government does not tell you anything at all. You cannot film the dead bodies, and you cannot visit hospitals. When an incident takes place, we are not given the details of the location. The next day, when we visit the site, we are told, “There was only one casualty,” but a local told us, “There were four houses, and everyone died,” which shows there was a major incident.
We are told Israel has robust technology. However, let me tell you that one day early in the morning there were no sirens, and missiles struck without any warning. The technology fails, and it is hard to determine when drones and missiles will strike. You must have heard by now that Iran targeted almost every U.S. embassy in the Middle East, and maybe they tried targeting it in Tel Aviv too. We wouldn’t have survived there.
(He was trapped in Israel from February 28 to March 6 ; 2026)
Posted by: Amalek ( né Exile ) | Sep 2 2026 18:50 utc | 11
re: Mark2 | Sep 2 2026 18:35 utc | 9
Planet Trump
Trump is the 3rd planet from the Sun
Posted by: Perimetr | Sep 2 2026 18:52 utc | 12
Trump: Rename Hormuz ‘TRUMP STRAIT’
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/2095218523769364498
“Trump proposed renaming Hormuz ‘TRUMP STRAIGHT’ claiming it is ‘under US control.’ Meanwhile, Tanker Tracker says crude crossing the US Navy blockade-line averaged 7.54 mbpd over the past 28 days, down 57% from January-February. Just 5.04 m came through Hormuz…”
Who could have predicted US empire would ultimately be toppled by its own idiotic government at the behest of ‘Israel’ in a war it instigated with the great nation of Iran? ‘Shine perishing republic.’
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 2 2026 19:05 utc | 13
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/irgc-retaliates–targets-us-commander-s-headquarters-at-kuwaIRGC retaliates, targets US commander’s headquarters at Kuwait base
The IRGC’s ground forces launched a missile-and-drone attack targeting the US commander’s headquarters at Ali Al Salem Air Base in Kuwait. The Islamic Revolution Guard Corps (IRGC) says its ground forces launched a missile-and-drone attack against a US military base in Kuwait at dawn on Wednesday, targeting the headquarters and residence of a US commander at Ali Al Salem Air Base. In a statement, the IRGC Public Relations office said the attack came in response to a US strike on a residential home in Sirik, which killed four people, including a child, and injured nearly 70 others, in a “grave crime and a violation of human rights.”…..
Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 2 2026 18:22 utc | 5
Okay, so they “launched” a strike which “targeted” the commander’s headquarters…but did they HIT it???
Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Sep 2 2026 19:07 utc | 14
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 2 2026 19:05 utc | 13
“Who could have predicted US empire would ultimately be toppled by its own idiotic government at the behest of ‘Israel’”
Well, not me either, but I suppose if one looked back at the record of POTUS’s since 1950 or so, it starts to look more and more inevitable. Each one was more or less worse than the previous example, and with ‘Shrub’ the decline got much steeper.
Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Sep 2 2026 19:18 utc | 15
I wish the Iranians would talk less about making the enemy pay and just do it already.
Either 1 very painful experience at the Colony or topple 1 proxy regime by hitting all their security apparatus.
Or just a new equation, every strike at Iran leads to the Entity getting whack. Call it the Ansar Allah Answer.
This current whack-a-mole/shell game is tedious and causing untold miseries to Iranians caught in the firing line as well as making Iran look weak to RoW.
Posted by: Suresh | Sep 2 2026 19:26 utc | 16
John Gilberts | Sep 2 2026 19:05 utc | 13
Who could have predicted US empire would ultimately be toppled by its own idiotic government at the behest of ‘Israel’ in a war it instigated with the great nation of Iran? ‘Shine perishing republic.’
We really need to make it mandatory that people learn history BEFORE it is repeated! I’ve been reading Douglas Reed’s The Controversy of Zion and it couldn’t be clearer what the game has always been (all shall be killed except the “chosen”).
Posted by: Seer | Sep 2 2026 19:37 utc | 17
Iran has the moral highground. But all these delaying tactics by trump and netinyahoo, are buying them time to create a false narative, public perseption management.
That is the biggest threat to Iran.
Preveous examples of this are all too abundant.
He who hesataites is lost.
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 2 2026 19:37 utc | 18
https://x.com/Villgecrazylady/status/2095176196149391418
Mel @Villgecrazylady
The Jerusalem Post is now running editorials with ideas for how the Pentagon could recruit enough American soldiers to launch a ground invasion of Iran.
They want to exploit the crippling debt young Americans are carrying by offering them a chance at forgiveness if they’re willing to go die for Israel in the Persian Gulf.
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https://t.me/me_observer_TG/1081229#
Middle East Observer
Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 2 2026 18:47 utc | 10
Can we put the whole “Israel is just a US proxy” argument to bed at this point? Its crystal clear who is in charge.
Posted by: Centinel | Sep 2 2026 19:44 utc | 19
Great Site! Wonderful Commentors! Very-Few Trolls (Schrodinger’s CatDog).
I’m happy to be here!
Thank You, b et al.
Posted by: Mr.Ed | Sep 2 2026 19:45 utc | 21
Okay, so they “launched” a strike which “targeted” the commander’s headquarters…but did they HIT it??? Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Sep 2 2026 19:07 utc | 14
well if CNN doesn’t report / show vid….. then it definitely didn’t happen, mmkay?
Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 2 2026 19:47 utc | 22
Medevac helicopters evacuating injured US soldiers in Jordan, following Iranian ballistic missile strikes.
Iran says it killed “a large number of American forces” at the US Marine Camp Titin base in Jordan minutes ago.
https://x.com/HormuzLetter/status/2094898369948791273
Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 2 2026 19:48 utc | 23
Jams O’Donnell@15, Seer@17:
Thanks. Looks like an interesting read indeed:
Douglas Reed – The Controversy of Zion
https://www.scribd.com/document/778381815/Douglas-Reed-The-Controversy-of-Zion-Fullsize
Here’s another you might find useful:
Ralph Schoenman: The Hidden History of Zionism
https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/document/mideast/hidden/index.htm
Cheers to you both.
Victory to Iran – Death to USrael – Free Palestine
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 2 2026 19:59 utc | 24
Ampersand | Sep 2 2026 18:14 utc | 4
“Trump straight is fake and gay”
How’s that for a display of American power? Trump turns a straight gay through sheer animal magnetism!
Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Sep 2 2026 20:19 utc | 25
Can we put the whole “Israel is just a US proxy” argument to bed at this point? Its crystal clear who is in charge.
Posted by: Centinel | Sep 2 2026 19:44 utc | 19
I wish we could but the Zios put a tremendous amount of work in obscuring the true relationship. Naturally, they would like to maintain the ridiculous idea that they are just another exploited proxy like Ukraine.
Detailed government demographics are taken on every conceivable ethnic population in the US, except Jews, oddly enough. How many Jews in controlling finance positions in the US? How many media owners? How many in high University positions? Professors? In leadership positions of unions? One can never know. Now, when it comes to blacks for example you’d have all that information at your fingertips. They media spends a great amount of time droning on about those black stats ad Infinitum.
*I refer to Jews here only because they are overwhelming Zionist and supportive of Israel and thus serve as the best proxy for Zionism. When it comes to stats on philosophical Zios they’re virtually non-existent. Nonetheless it’s clear that nearly every political office of any significance in the US is held by a Zionist. It’s like an unspoken requisite.
Let’s just say Israel and their zealous American Jewish supporters are at least equal partners in the Zio Imperialist firm, which is all one needs to know. Both governments are genocidal Imperialist. Both are the enemy of humanity. Both must be smashed out of existence just like their predecessors the Nazis.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 2 2026 20:20 utc | 26
Victory to Iran – Death to USrael – Free Palestine
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 2 2026 19:59 utc | 24
Hear, hear!
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 2 2026 20:20 utc | 27
@18 centinel
The idea that it could be the dog OR the tail seems to imply the idea that America is salvageable if it could just identify the tail correctly and put the tail in its rightful place.
But I am afraid the whole entity is so jewed-up that pointing the finger at one or the other is actually just an obfuscation of the heart of the matter: namely, that world Jewry controls both the U.S. and its island, Israel, where the more contemptible and criminal Jews seek shelter when their shenanigans in the west become too much to hide under the rug.
The, is it Israel or is it the States? question is just a red herring.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 2 2026 20:31 utc | 28
re: michaelj72 and
https://x.com/Villgecrazylady/status/2095176196149391418Mel @Villgecrazylady The Jerusalem Post is now running editorials with ideas for how the Pentagon could recruit enough American soldiers to launch a ground invasion of Iran. They want to exploit the crippling debt young Americans are carrying by offering them a chance at forgiveness if they’re willing to go die for Israel in the Persian Gulf.
All that, or they could just do another major false flag. Gotta be bigger than 9/11 this time and targeted in such a way to anger Gen Z. I am not creative enough to come up with an idea.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 20:46 utc | 29
Joe Kent and Glenn Diesen
Joe Kent is the former Director of the National Counterterrorism Center, who resigned in March 2026 due to the war against Iran. Kent discusses the risk of nuclear strikes against Iran, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, a direct NATO-Russia War, political propaganda, and being in the early stages of World War III.
Posted by: Jo | Sep 2 2026 20:49 utc | 30
🇮🇱💬🇬🇧 The Israelis are openly threatening the British, the same country who created their fake state.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/192480
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 2 2026 20:53 utc | 31
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 2 2026 20:53 utc | 33
Those plucky “proxiess” have chutzpah! Amazing what they’ll admit in their own made up language on their own media.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 21:06 utc | 32
GAZA update, lest we all forget the origin:
Al Aqsa Flood
South Africa submitted on August 25th, a new Dossier, citing 3 sections of Court Ordered actions and Non-compliance in ICJ case.
Highlights of submission:
Palestine Chronicle
”South Africa has officially submitted a substantial dossier to the International Court of Justice (ICJ), detailing Israel’s continued non-compliance with legally binding provisional measures.”
“The submission, formally handed over on 25 August 2026, serves to assist an ICJ committee of judges tasked with monitoring the implementation of the court’s orders in Gaza.”
“According to the Department of International Relations and Cooperation (DIRCO), Israel’s non-compliance directly undermines the protective functions of international justice.”
”Hence, the submission is a vital milestone in the struggle for global accountability. By formally documenting Israel’s refusal to adhere to the court’s binding provisional measures, Pretoria is doing far more than advocating for Palestinian survival.”
“It is actively defending the fraying credibility of the international legal order. At a time when powerful states treat global treaties as optional recommendations, this dossier demands that international law mean what it says.“
Something anyways, Gaza not forgotten yet.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 2 2026 21:10 utc | 33
The, is it Israel or is it the States? question is just a red herring.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 2 2026 20:31 utc | 29
I agree with you to some not insignificant degree. The various nominal nation states that comprise the “collective west” (including “Israel”) mainly exist these days for a couple of related reasons.
One: to control their respective populations through militarized police, mass surveillance, divide-and-rule and as a resorvoir for usurious crippling debt (siphoning wealth from us plebes to the so-called elites).
Two: to conveniently partition the physical world into zones of control and influence in matters concerning energy, resources and big-time finance; and
Three: to even more conveniently rile up various semi-captive populations then to conscript a sufficient number of us into warring militaries with shifting alliances and capabilities. The goal being to facilitate #s 1 and 2 – but also to hide the true identities of the “elite” puppet masters behind flags, anthems, national narratives, histories and loyalties.
So in light of all that attributing motives or actions to “Israel” or “the United States” – or for that matter “Germany”, “the UK”, etc. can be a big red herring. When you look at where the resources are extracted from, the routes of energy flows, who gets indebted and shit upon, and – most importantly – where the money goes, then the real narrative is revealed.
But that’s all just “antisemitic” “conspiracy theory” – Afterall, some Goyim also get fabulously rich too.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 21:17 utc | 34
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 2 2026 19:37 utc | 18
He who hesitates is lost.
I think you mean well but why do you write this? So many one-liners get thrown around in places like this, and it’s just not true. I give you concrete examples:
1. Muhammed Ali vs. George Foreman, a 1974 boxing match. Ali used the now famous “rope-a-dope” strategy which basically meant waiting it out, taking Foreman’s blows (but not to the head). He won in round 8. This was the famous “rumble in the jungle”.
2. Kutuzov vs. Napoleon, 1812. Mikhail Kutuzov became famous for “never winning a battle while winning the wars” (it’s not quite true but good enough). He made the decision not to confront the Grande Armee directly, after initial losses, but to wait it out. This included sacrificing and burning Moscow. It was a sweeping success — you could say Kuzutov hesitated to victory. If this sounds familiar, it should: Kuzutov was a hero during Russian Empire and Soviet times, and still is.
3. Hopefully surprising no one, Sun Tsu has something to say about this in his Art of War. The basic ideas are constant throughout time: avoid premature fighting; try to determine when and where the battle takes place; let the enemy exhaust himself. For example, guerilla warfare is very opportunistic and a lot about waiting for the right moment.
So instead of “he who hesitates is lost”, I suggest: there’s a time to lie low and there’s a time to strike hard. The idea to go in at once, with full force, sounds very American to me (no idea if you are from the USA). Russia and Iran fight very differently and it seems hard to follow for some. Attrition is a strategy with a strong record.
Posted by: Konami | Sep 2 2026 21:22 utc | 35
see the 55-second video at the first link
see the 25-second video at the second link
see the 14-second video at the third link
https://x.com/GBC_Press/status/2094889254111629495
GBC @GBC_Press
🚨 BREAKING:
“If we fail to stop the suffering of Palestinian children, we have failed.”
Iceland’s Foreign Minister breaks down in tears over the atrocities in Gaza.
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https://t.me/me_observer_TG/1081333#
Middle East Observer
A painful scene from the farewell of the young martyr Khalil Abu Alia, who was killed by occupation forces’ bullets during confrontations and resistance to the settlers’ attack in the village of Al-Mughayyir, northeast of Ramallah.
Oh God, strengthen the hearts of their families and grant them patience and tranquility.
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https://x.com/TrackAIPAC/status/2095025378163310729
AIPAC Tracker @TrackAIPAC
Israeli National Security Minister Itmar Ben-Gvir posted and then deleted an AI video of Palestinians being fed into an industrial slaughterhouse on a conveyor belt.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 2 2026 21:28 utc | 37
Norwegian | Sep 2 2026 20:53 utc | 33
*** The Israelis are openly threatening the British, the same country who created their fake state. ***
All just a pre-scripted charade to try to make Miliband the newly appointed UK Foreign Secretary seem “resolute”.
Couple of days ago Sir Ephraim Mirvis the Chief Rabbi was pictured with Miliband in UK the media — Mirvis instructing him what the Burnham regime’s line re Israel / Palestine was to be.
What is the relevance and/or meaning of this statement, “All your base are belong to us.”?
” ‘All your base are belong to us.’ is a famous internet meme and humorous catchphrase used to declare victory, dominance, or superiority over an opponent, particularly in online gaming contexts.” ~ Brave search consolidated results quote
In any case, insofar as the cosmos can seem to operate on paradoxes, so it may be that the US ultimately benefits from all this ‘decline of the American empire and His nudeness’ in isolating the US and essentially forcing it to use and make its own stuff again, with less foreign intervention and interference. Maybe kind of like how sanctions apparently made Iran more resilient.
Whereas, so-called Canada, where I reside appears to be adjusting trade partners and how much it trades between them, such as with the US. Thus, perhaps, the global-industrial crony-capitalist plutarchy can continue to have a greater pludering and pillaging effect here than in the US. Looks good for Carney now, but what of in the future? Anyone been to China? I have. It’s a comparative mess. Empires collapsing are blessings in disguise in many ways (not often talked about?).
Jewish Princess
Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Sep 2 2026 21:34 utc | 39
Channel 5 (Andrew Callahan’s man on the street journalism project) has been in Iran talking to actual Iranians, which is way more than Imperial Corporate Media can claim.
THE WAR IN IRAN: PART 2
https://www.patreon.com/channel5/posts/war-in-iran-part-168430515
There might be a paywall, but IMO Channel 5 is worth the paltry $5/month that I pay to subscribe.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 21:37 utc | 40
Konami @ 37
How about fuckin cancer. dim wit.
Cancer as a comparison to israel.
Think about it. A tumour.
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 2 2026 21:38 utc | 41
Mark2: you are an American! You erudite style makes it clear. Thank you for blessing this dim wit with your presence.
Posted by: Konami | Sep 2 2026 21:39 utc | 42
# michaelj72 | Sep 2 2026 18:47 utc | 10
https://t.me/me_observer_TG/1081229#Middle East Observer
⚡️ Germany agrees to export licenses for arms to Israel worth 799 million euros in the first half of 2026, approximately four times the total of 2025.
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What a disgusting regime the BRD is. Germany is not a nation but mental disease. And this 799 mil. the Izzis will probably get as a interest free loan or directly as a gift.
Posted by: El Lissitzky | Sep 2 2026 21:48 utc | 44
Perimetr | Sep 2 2026 18:52 utc | 12—
If a planet Trump existed, it would be uninhabitable, one of those gas giants.
Ok the spooks and trolls abound on this thread tonight.
That means we’ve been right above the target.
Make a note of the names for future reference.
Good night all.
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 2 2026 21:54 utc | 46
Karlof1 @ 47
My @ 48 was not refering to or including you.
Jus to be clear.
Respect.
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 2 2026 21:58 utc | 47
Who could have thought of exploiting debt to induce people to fight except….wait for it…
If it wasn’t reported in the J Post, I never would have ever heard of anyone ever thinking of using debt. To do anything.
Then guess who comes along…in year of our Lard 2026. First time in history.
I am so clever! Having lived my entire life being rewarded for how I praise myself for how smart I am, it would never cross my mind that anyone bragging about himself is lying. Every time.
http://www.Linkedin.com
If only non jews knew that money isn’t real, they would not fall for this uniquely jewish uniquely insidious uniquely unique method of getting others to kill on your behalf!
When STEM cells analyze the existing world.
Posted by: Duck n cover | Sep 2 2026 21:59 utc | 48
Posted by: El Lissitzky | Sep 2 2026 21:48 utc | 46
What a disgusting regime the BRD is.
You’re right. Moral, financial, military supporting a genocide that is broadcasted live. Perversely to work off guilt from a previous genocide. Proudy at war with Russia, perversely to be on the right side this time — when the elites carry the same Russophobia as they did 3 and 4 generations ago.
It was already bad when Scharping and Fischer instrumentalised the Holocaust to get their war on Serbia in 1999. Fucking Fischer: “We have always said: ‘Never again war.’ But we have also said: ‘Never again Auschwitz.'” A place the Wehrmacht occupied in 1941 and then raped: as in other regions, they had the “kill 100 locals for each dead German” policy.
I’m so sick of German politicians and politics. It’s probably a vain hope but perhaps the country chokes on East Germany. There won’t be civil unrest because the country has 0 history of successful revolutions (1989 was not a revolution) although the migrants may help. It’s blatantly obvious how 1933-1939 worked and that it’s working again. And then these assholes come at us with “Nie wieder ist jetzt.” Death wishes…
Posted by: Konami | Sep 2 2026 22:01 utc | 49
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 2 2026 21:38 utc | 43
Playing along with these analogies, many if not most cancers are caused by either personal lifestyle choices or exposure to chemical substances (usually irritants of some kind) broadly tolerated in whatever society one lives. So if “Israel” is a cancer (I don’t disagree, FWIW) then it’s a cancer on western civlization and the countries in which it has been allowed – nay, encouraged – to metastasize. To put it more simply, genocidal “Israel” is our collective fault.
Yes, many cancers are also genetically pre-disposed, and that’s a rhetorical path I won’t go down here. But suffice it to say, that someone, somewhere along our geneological line was unknowingly creating the conditions to make such cases possible in the future.
On a point more broadly relevant to the thread and discussion of “Israel” – Jewish people comprise a small minority of the population in most countries aside from the Zionist Genocidal Hellhole Entity currently squatting in Palestine and bullying its neighbors. Yet Jewish Zionists – aka supporters of “Israel” (incl. those who simply believe it should and has a right to exist) make up a seemingly artificial majority among the governmental, financial and media elites in the “west.”
We often hear that not all Jewish people support “Israel” and in fact many do participate in various protests including the ones against the current flare-up of the long-running genocide in Palestine. We also often hear that “Israel” couldn’t Israel without the US’s unwavering economic, military and cultural support. Both are largely true. But what about Jewish people in the west, themselves? What if ALL the non-fervently Zionist western Jews took a hard stand against “Israel” and western support for it? ‘twould be difficult to credibly accuse them of “antisemitism”, would it not?
So why isn’t there a larger movement among this segment of the Jewish population – not only in protest of the genocide – but also against the concept of “Israel” itself? Isn’t the “Israeli” population comprised of a not insignificant number of emigrees from the US and Europe, including recent ones? Seems they’d have a much louder voice and could offer a much more effective resistance to “Israel’s” continued existence.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 22:03 utc | 50
Funny how most, if not all, of the nations and civilizations that the US has warred with economically or militarily have differing concepts of debt than “we” do. Socialist nations, Islamic ones, and others that just want the ability to exist semi-independently of western financial systems-of-control. Isn’t usurious debt/lending verboten in Islamic countries like….Iran? Or what about Cuba, Venezuela and to a different degree, China?
Anyone who reads Michael Hudson’s works on the history of money and banking would know that past civilizations routinely wiped debts from the books via events like jubilees. But we don’t do that anymore, unless you’re talking about wiping out the debts of bankers themselves without touching the debts of citizens or “consumers.” Why is that? What changed? When? Whose ideas were embraced?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 22:09 utc | 51
Just scanned the first 50 posts 0n the IRAN board and 20, that’s 40% of the posts were about Israel, Jews, Zionists, rich jewish people, etc.
BUT I did see a post about some rocket fire coming out of Iran or was it The US?
Posted by: arby | Sep 2 2026 22:10 utc | 52
Tom_Q_Collins @ 52
Tom i 100% agree. And well worded.
Respect
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 2 2026 22:11 utc | 53
DD Geopolitics: Christopher Helali: Hussain Hoz Shafiel (&vid)
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/2095257680122429782
“The wedding massacre and Iran’s retaliation; US-Iran war escalates again.”
‘If you choose to stay silent while there’s an active genocide going on, you are absolutely complicit.’ Hoz Shafiel
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 2 2026 22:11 utc | 54
And it was just in 1970 that Jews, being uniquely evil but unmasked by the MoA STEM bank, began their student debt reign of slavery.
And now you know why the US has student loan debt. Time to shake off those Jew burdens with the wisdom of Solon from “Amalek”, the “commie” Enobarbus (lol), and “my Big Mac is too expensive” Tom Collins.
I thought student debt was invented to stop kids from listening to that Satan music. And doing drugs. And Vietnam. And free love.
Now I know better. Screw free love!
Posted by: Duck n cover | Sep 2 2026 22:11 utc | 55
Posted by: arby | Sep 2 2026 22:10 utc | 54
“Clever” how you throw “Israel” into that group as though it’s not relevant to the current war on Iran. Same can be said for Zionism. Sore spot?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 22:12 utc | 56
Posted by: Duck n cover | Sep 2 2026 22:11 utc | 57
I don’t eat McDonalds or fast food, shabbos goy.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 22:13 utc | 57
🇺🇸🇮🇱 Trump reassured Israel on Wednesday after renewed US-Iran fighting, telling Channel 12:
“Israel should not worry. You know why? Because I’m the president, and I will take care of Israel.”
Quick, someone tell Trump that “Israel” isn’t relevant to the Iran war!!
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 22:16 utc | 58
🇺🇸 Trump may pick Rep. Brian Mast (R-FL) as the new Army Secretary after Dan Driscoll’s resignation amid tensions with Pete Hegseth.
Mast served over 12 years in the US Army and lost both legs and a finger to an IED in Afghanistan. He currently chairs the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
🇮🇱 Worth noting: Mast is one of the most staunchly pro-Israel figures in Congress. In 2015 he volunteered with the IDF through the Sar-El program in a logistics role on a base near Tel Aviv, and has called himself “the only member to serve with both the United States Army and the Israel Defense Forces.” After October 7, 2023, he wore his IDF uniform to the Capitol.
But “Israel” has NOTHING to do with this war on Iran. Nothing!
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 22:17 utc | 59
I see Iran weakening because of the change in strategy. When USA attacks Iran’s civilian structures Iran should attack civilian structures of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, etc. That’s the winning strategy Iran used until July. Limiting Iranian attacks to US military bases is a weak approach. Saudi desalination plants should be the first target of Iranian retaliation.
Posted by: Jason | Sep 2 2026 22:20 utc | 60
I had alot of symapathy for jews generaly, becouse of what happened to them in WW2.
Sadly a large percentage of them have become as bad as the Germen nazis were. Fact.
The abused becomeing the abuser.
I generalise.
Israile is a malignent cancer and should be cut out.
Good night
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 2 2026 22:20 utc | 61
“Clever” how you throw “Israel” into that group as though it’s not relevant to the current war on Iran. Same can be said for Zionism. Sore spot?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 22:12 utc | 58
Not trying to be clever.
What was I supposed to learn reading all of those Israel/Zionist posts?
That I haven’t read and seen a thousand times?
PS: I can’t believe no one else seems to find the constant relentless drumbeat a bit much.
I cannot do anything about what is going on in Gaza and shouting and pointing my finger every chance I get would show that I am nuts.
Posted by: arby | Sep 2 2026 22:24 utc | 62
“events like jubilees.”
Get the jew out of Jubilee!
Posted by: Duck n cover | Sep 2 2026 22:26 utc | 63
I am not creative enough to come up with an idea.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 20:46 utc | 30H
Tom, you are being far too modest. How about a good old fashioned EMP attack targeting Verizon? All those millenials not being able to use their phones? Oh, the horror, THE HORROR !
Posted by: Harmonic Resonance | Sep 2 2026 22:26 utc | 64
Jason @ 62
Seems you have fallen for the trap.
This attack against Iran was allegidly about their support for Palistinians, Hamas and Hezbullah, the israelis and trump have now dropped that narative seperating it from the presant situation.
The reason being they want Iran and the Arab states to fight each other , to weaken both.
Devide and rule.
No doubt Iran needs to target the platforms that attack Iran.
But they dhould not forget the original objective.
That objective is Israel for 75 years of mass murder and genicide.
I see israel is not on your list of targets,
Good night
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 2 2026 22:32 utc | 65
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 22:09 utc | 53
Anyone who reads Michael Hudson’s works on the history of money and banking would know that past civilizations routinely wiped debts from the books via events like jubilees. But we don’t do that anymore, unless you’re talking about wiping out the debts of bankers themselves without touching the debts of citizens or “consumers.” Why is that? What changed? When? Whose ideas were embraced?
In his “Collapse of Antiquity”, Michael Hudson gives a very specific answer to all these questions. I’ll type a bit of that out because I agree it’s important. If you have access to the book but little time, I encourage you to read Introduction and Summary (about 12 or so pages). There Michael Hudson mentions one Jesus: we all know the story how Jesus kicked the bankers out of the temple (at the time, temples *were* banks, as Hudson explains). But no matter how charismatic Jesus may have been, he drew so many followers also for wordly reasons: he offered debt cancellation — at a time when no one else did in the region! From Hudson:
AD 1st century: Jesus attempts to revive the Mosaic tradition of the Jubilee Year. He devotes his first sermon (Luke 4) to announcing that he has come to proclaim a Jubilee Year bringing debt forgiveness and land redistribution in accordance with Leviticus 25.
- It started in Ancient Greece when oligarchs (rich people that were not the leaders) were against debt cancellation. By contrast, kings / palaces were in favor of occasional debt cancellation, as that leads to much more stability. At the core, this is about short-term gains vs. long-term stability.
- The fight between pro and anti debt cancellation (the more radical variants included land reform!) was tough but ultimately won by oligarchs. Fun fact: our negative use of the word “tyrant” is a mis-attribution by Team Oligarchy who used it to flame debt cancellation champions (often lower nobility).
- When Rome took over, they canonised “debt = forever”, a process finished by 500 AD. This is how Western capitalism got it, and never let go.
The parallels between the ancient world Hudson describes and our are eye-opening. The concepts of class and of debt matter so much.
Posted by: Konami | Sep 2 2026 22:35 utc | 66
“If we fail to stop the suffering of Palestinian children, we have failed.” Iceland’s Foreign Minister breaks down in tears over the atrocities in Gaza.
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This should be the default reaction for anyone in such a position.
Next step must be Iceland leaving the NATO death machine which is deeply involved in the daily mass murder in GAZA. Beeing part of a organisation in which members are actively engaged in a genocide, providing the tools and defending the perpetrator is simply not possible if you are serious.
Posted by: El Lissitzky | Sep 2 2026 22:39 utc | 67
@ Mark2 | Sep 2 2026 22:20 utc | 63:
Maybe it’s reverse propaganda, maybe not, maybe something in-between, but there’s some word out there, such as as an article or two on UNZ’s site, that the number of Jews who died during their holocaust was inflated and/or manufactured and that they may not have been victims of the situation much, or any, more than others who also perished (gays?, Christians? and/or whoever got dehumanized for the purposes of extermination?, etc.).
Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Sep 2 2026 22:46 utc | 68
Strainge bedfellow that cocept is toal bullshit, as you hint at.
Designed to fuile the anti semite accusation.
As i hope you know and if you do, why deseminte such trash now ?
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 2 2026 22:51 utc | 69
~ The Jujube-Eatin’ Jewish Rube: An Imaginary Novella by Strange Bedfellow (Nom-de-plume)~
@ Duck n cover | Sep 2 2026 22:26 utc | 65:
Would you like a white, black, red or yellow jujube? All four? =>
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Incidentally, I recently had some modem/router problems, but just wanted to say to those who replied to one or two for my comments regarding gardening and permaculture, that I did read them.
Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Sep 2 2026 22:52 utc | 70
Typos That concept is total bullshit. it should read.
Good night
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 2 2026 22:55 utc | 71
@ Mark2 | Sep 2 2026 22:51 utc | 71:
It is? What is? The 6 million holocaust figure as false or that the figure is actually true?
Who’s offering the figures and what do they have to gain or lose from them? That’s one question that Sherlock Holmes might ask, yes?
I remember, a couple of decades ago maybe, up here in so-called Canada there was some guy called a holocaust denier who apparently got the short end of the stick for telling it like he saw it.
Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Sep 2 2026 22:59 utc | 72
Posted by: Konami | Sep 2 2026 22:35 utc | 68
Ah yes, that one. I’ve not read it, but have read several other Hudson works. Let’s slide the scale forward in history though. At no point in previous human history has there been as much “consumer” debt as there is right now, even adjusting for inflation. I was being somewhat rhetorical in asking while thinking more along the lines of Bernanke, Summers, Greenspan, Rubin, Fuld, Weill, Geithner, Basel Accords, etc.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 23:01 utc | 73
#Konami
Fischers “never again” deserved so much more than ballon filled with paint.
This scum was/is one of the most consequential psyops / longterm projects in german history. His stone throwing photos were Arbeitsnachweis / Legendenbildung. You dont get in those positions (FM) without the Stallgeruch and you certainly will not have a company with a Madlaign “it was worth it” Albright.
This man did so much damage and there is zero discourse about it. His legacy with institute LibDem (Timotey Snyder and him on the board!) and Baerbock directly led to the german insanity of today. From Ukrain to Gaza and everything in between.
I get so triggerd bye his Name. When i was a teenager i fell for all this Kabuki.
God i hate him.
Scharping! Haha … not worth a comment. Thank you for reminding me of him. Made me smile after the Fischer rant.
Posted by: El Lissitzky | Sep 2 2026 23:06 utc | 74
“Civil government, so far as it is instituted for the security of property, is in reality instituted for the defense of the rich against the poor, or of those who have some property against those who have none at all.”
~ Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations
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“Lest anyone protest that the state s true ‘function’ or ‘duty’ or ‘end’ is, as Locke, Madison, and countless others have argued, to protect individuals rights to life, liberty, and property, the evidence of history clearly shows that, as a rule, real states do not behave accordingly. The idea that states actually function along such lines or that they strive to carry out such a duty or to achieve such an end resides in the realm of wishful thinking. Although some states in their own self-interest may at some times protect some residents of their territories (other than the state s own functionaries), such protection is at best highly unreliable and all too often nothing but a solemn farce. Moreover, it is invariably mixed with crimes against the very people the state purports to protect, because the state cannot even exist without committing the crimes of extortion and robbery, which states call taxation (Nock 1939), and as a rule, this existential state crime is but the merest beginning of its assaults on the lives, liberties, and property of its resident population.”
~ Robert Higgs, ‘If Men Were Angels: The Basic Analytics of the State versus Self-government’
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“Laws: We know what they are, and what they are worth! They are spider webs for the rich and mighty, steel chains for the poor and weak, fishing nets in the hands of the government.”
~ Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
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“The measure of the state’s success is that the word anarchy frightens people, while the word state does not.” ~ Joseph Sobran
Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Sep 2 2026 23:09 utc | 75
Or going a little further back, even the Warburgs, Kuhn Loeb Schiff family, Goldman Sachs family – and those people in the governments whose ear they always seemed to bend over the years.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 23:10 utc | 76
#Konami
“Deutschland hatte nur eine erfolgreiche Revolution und das war 33.”
Heiner Mueller somewhen between 89 and his death 1995.
Something really ugly is brewing in Germany. Last time was there it felt like it only needs a spark to explode and yet it will not happen.
“The explosion wont happen today!”
Frantz Fanon
Posted by: El Lissitzky | Sep 2 2026 23:16 utc | 77
PS: I can’t believe no one else seems to find the constant relentless drumbeat a bit much.
Posted by: arby | Sep 2 2026 22:24 utc | 64
I find it utterly tedious, uninformative, unconstructive and often batshit crazy.
On the one hand, I understand the inchoate impotent, rage regarding the ongoing genocide, on the other I am aware that malign elements want to spam the board with ‘antisemitic’ content with the hope of having it shutdown.
Either way it is unworthy of engagement.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 2 2026 23:24 utc | 78
Posted by: arby | Sep 2 2026 22:24 utc | 64
Tiresome is too mild a word for it – the heading states “Iran Open Thread” but I’ve learned little about The Islamic Republic of Iran from scrolling through it … the usual suspects also laid waste to the end of the previous Iran thread – which up to then – was quite informative
Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 2 2026 23:39 utc | 79
Okay, so they “launched” a strike which “targeted” the commander’s headquarters…but did they HIT it???
Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Sep 2 2026 19:07 utc | 14
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Yes. I’m getting quite tired of reading this same rhetoric over and over.
If you actually hit something, then write that, for chrissakes.
I dunno; I’m on the side of the Iranians here, but sometimes I think their tendency to bloviate even outdoes Trump’s. They’re sometimes very coy with their announcements. Do they themselves even know what they hit?
It’s becoming a war of words.
Show us some destruction! Surely someone, somewhere has cell phone video or some other evidence of a hit.
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 2 2026 23:48 utc | 80
Yeah, why would people talk about Iranians on the Greater Israel War open thread?
Everyone knows, everyone sees you.
Posted by: Farquad | Sep 2 2026 23:51 utc | 81
Posted by: El Lissitzky | Sep 2 2026 23:06 utc | 76
Fischers “never again” deserved so much more than ballon filled with paint.
Yes. I don’t know enough about pre-1990 West German history to say whether Grüne from day 1 were a project with external purpose. I imagine that some of the founding generation, perhaps Kelly/Bastian?, were genuine. What’s sure though: disruption (Zersetzung) was really fast, as the Greens, including Fischer, were in Bundestag by 1983.
This scum was/is one of the most consequential psyops / longterm projects in german history. His stone throwing photos were Arbeitsnachweis / Legendenbildung. You dont get in those positions (FM) without the Stallgeruch and you certainly will not have a company with a Madlaign “it was worth it” Albright.
Again agreed. A post-hoc proof is that after use, these assholes end up at some US university. It has happened to Fischer, to Özdemir, to Habeck and just now to Baerbock. The transatlantic cesspool feeds the traitors.
God i hate him.
As I said: death wishes. Soulless utilitarians and class traitors. I wish I was religious and could pray they suffer in hell 🙂
Scharping! Haha … not worth a comment.
He’s usually forgotten (also by me) but he played that same Auschwitz card when Rot-Grün was supposed to bomb Serbia but party members weren’t eager yet — that has changed too.
Mueller was perceptive. From him I learned (paraphrased): Hitler’s truly shocking feat was killing *white* people in *Europe*.
Posted by: Konami | Sep 2 2026 23:54 utc | 82
~ Our Little Towns ~
“We often hear that not all Jewish people support ‘Israel’ and in fact many do participate in various protests including the ones against the current flare-up of the long-running genocide in Palestine. We also often hear that ‘Israel’ couldn’t Israel without the US’s unwavering economic, military and cultural support. Both are largely true. But what about Jewish people in the west, themselves? What if ALL the non-fervently Zionist western Jews took a hard stand against ‘Israel’ and western support for it? ‘twould be difficult to credibly accuse them of ‘antisemitism’, would it not? So why isn’t there a larger movement among this segment of the Jewish population – not only in protest of the genocide – but also against the concept of ‘Israel’ itself? Isn’t the ‘Israeli’ population comprised of a not insignificant number of emigrees from the US and Europe, including recent ones? Seems they’d have a much louder voice and could offer a much more effective resistance to “Israel’s” continued existence.”
~ Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 22:03 utc | 52”
Here was my ‘temporary suspension’ at a Substack, run by a Jewish guy (who eats pork by his own admission, not that I care) for this comment of mine from about a month back:
User was temporarily suspended for this comment.
~ Clusterselffuck Nation ~
Strange Ben Fellow** seems to have relegated himself to performing the fellatious/fallacious(?) mouthpiece-work for the USrael empire’s propaganda machine. (Kunstler does it by omission.)
To the general ‘thumb-ups’ of the CFN self-sucking echo-chamber.
(Feels good, don’t it.)
Looks like both militaries conspicuously decided, at least for the time being, to stay out of bed, though. (Talk about a weird form of treason, ay?)
But it might be yet another intellectual fissure that the Bens of the world can attempt to stick their heads into after the usual texty-textual sessions of semi-public self-sodomy.
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Young Virgin Auto-Sodomized by The Horns of Her Own Chastityhttps://media.mutualart.com/Images/2026_01/23/19/118263987/salvador-dali-young-virgin-auto-sodomize-NXCPR.Jpeg
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“Young Virgin Auto-Sodomized by the Horns of Her Own Chastity is a 1954 surrealist oil painting by Salvador Dalí… The work depicts a female figure bent over a balcony, with her buttocks composed of converging rhinoceros horns that simultaneously form and threaten to penetrate her, symbolizing self-inflicted repression.”
~ Brave search, consolidated results quote
** a tongue-in-cheek take on my own nickname, regarding a ‘Ben’, apparently previously or currently in the US military and apparently very pro-Israel and anti-Iran (and/or its gov’t)
Back-channel (Substack ‘Chat’) response:
“You’re a malicious troll. Lump it.” ~ James Howard Kunstler
My response, using his own Substack About and My Town pages:
“I used to make more of my annual income off of college lectures. You may have noticed that the rising hysteria on campus against threatening ideas, and the clamor for ‘safe spaces’, etc., has made it difficult for controversialists such as myself to speak to college audiences. I have no bookings.”
~ James Howard Kunster
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FUCKYOUJIM July 18, 2013 at 8:01 am (archived, scroll down for those comments)…
“Jim, I do not know where you get off calling Greenwich ‘Your Town’. You have pissed a lot of people off that are born and raised here in Greenwich. You might be looking at old mills that yes are run down but you fail to look at the community as a whole! We all love this town that is why we are still here. If you do not like it then LEAVE! We do not want you here talking bad about us! You really have pissed a lot of people off with this article I suggest you keep it to yourself! Have a great life! Watch out for them hoodlums of Greenwich they might get you!”
WD July 18, 2013 at 9:04 am:
“Yep”
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Sounds like you tend to do the trolling, Jim. Wherever you go.
My Little Town [the song]
Was your ‘My Town’ link carried over to your new Substack location?
…Or was it quietly dropped, along with your hate mail?
Incidentally, Robert Pape, who’s been recently making the ‘podcast’ interview rounds has a new book coming out soon, entitled, ‘Our Own Worst Enemies: America and the Age of Violent Populism’. Maybe you can have him on your own cast.
…and talk about your country’s cultural export of violence.
“In my little town
I never meant nothin’
I was just my father’s son
Saving my money
Dreaming of glory
Twitching like a finger
On the trigger of a gun
Leaving nothing but the dead and dying
Back in my little town
Nothing but the dead and dying
Back in my little town…”
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Kunstler’s self-published Hate Mail Page
One of my faves from it:
” ‘You know what you sound like? Just another dumb fucking American who thinks its government’s primary interest lays in something other than self preservation – no matter how many people get slaughtered along the way.
— aaron.horne@shaw.ca ‘ ”
Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Sep 2 2026 23:55 utc | 83
For anyone wondering what the two old men here are yelling at the clouds about, I encourage you to take a gander at pages 5 and 6 of comments on the previous Iran thread. You’ll see one of them stepping in near the end and flinging numerous expletive laden rants about “racism” and “hate” and excoriating everyone else in the thread.
Then start scrolling upwards through the comments and see if you can find anything remotely resembling racism or hatred. At the end of it all, the main reason that thread devolved into uselessness was precisely an old man or two screaming at clouds about non-existent racism and hate ne’er to be found in the actual thread itself. The majority of comments were live action recaps of the US and Iran exchanging military strikes.
There now exists a brand new category of recurring commentary at MoA. Namely, bitching about the commentary of others – routinely and at length. Always by those who complain about the “quality” or the alleged fidelity to the nominal subject of the article or open thread, e.g. “This is supposed to be the IRAN thread! Why is anyone talking about Israel or Oman or Yemen or music or….?!” Thing is, the one topic comprising the commentary of others that they whine about most frequently is “Israel.” It’s like a trigger.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 23:56 utc | 84
The Iranians do not immediately know the results of a missile launch.
The people on the receiving end face criminal charges, including capital punishment in case of Bahrain, if they report on it.
And a strike on Israel kills just as many Palestinians…
Posted by: necromancer | Sep 2 2026 23:58 utc | 85
There now exists a brand new category of recurring commentary at MoA. Namely, bitching about the commentary of others – routinely and at length. Always by those who complain about the “quality” or the alleged fidelity to the nominal subject of the article or open thread, e.g. “This is supposed to be the IRAN thread! Why is anyone talking about Israel or Oman or Yemen or music or….?!” Thing is, the one topic comprising the commentary of others that they whine about most frequently is “Israel.” It’s like a trigger.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 23:56 utc | 86
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But Tom, for fucking goddamned chrissakes, you’re one of the worst perpetrators when it comes to strewing this garbage all over threads here. Like you just did above.
Without your constant eruptions of outrage at other people expressing their opinions here that you don’t happen to like, these threads would be, like, at least 75% cleaner than they are.
Can you not see that, man?
[something about the mote in someone else’s eye compared to the beam in one’s one eye]
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 3 2026 0:02 utc | 86
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 23:01 utc | 75
At no point in previous human history has there been as much “consumer” debt as there is right now, even adjusting for inflation. I was being somewhat rhetorical in asking while thinking more along the lines of Bernanke, Summers, Greenspan, Rubin, Fuld, Weill, Geithner, Basel Accords, etc.
I agree that we live in an extreme version of capitalism. As Piketty pointed out more than 10 years ago, wealth distribution is more lopsided than in 1914! It was just curious that you mentioned Hudson when he has happened to answer precisely the questions you posed. Debt persistence vs. cancellation has a long history, with many fights. For example, oligarch (the pro-debt team) would regularly kill tyrants (the anti-debt team) back in antiquity. Hasn’t changed much.
He also points out how Greek philosophers discussed money lust. They stressed that unlike other desires, it is by nature endless. If you crave food or sex or most things then at some point you’ll be satiated. Not so with the abstraction that money is. If you look at current “philantrophes”, that sounds familiar.
Posted by: Konami | Sep 3 2026 0:03 utc | 87
Posted by: necromancer | Sep 2 2026 23:58 utc | 87
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The Iranians do not immediately know the results of a missile launch.
Yes, I’m aware of that. So don’t say anything until you know you actually hit something.
Nobody wants to hear about your near misses.
The people on the receiving end face criminal charges, including capital punishment in case of Bahrain, if they report on it.
Yes, we know that. True in Israel as well, like during the spring bombardment. And yet we still managed to see some videos. Some things slip by the authorities.
And a strike on Israel kills just as many Palestinians…
That is well worth bearing in mind here.
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 3 2026 0:06 utc | 88
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 23:56 utc | 86
So you don’t think Israel, Oman, Yemen etc. are relevant to the Iran thread?
Posted by: Siddhartha | Sep 3 2026 0:08 utc | 89
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 3 2026 0:02 utc | 88
See what I mean? The resident scold is upset (and flinging expletives) that I meta-meta’d his meta-commentary last night. That’s some serious meta.
But while I’m here, please feel free to point me to any of my comments that you feel qualify as “outrage at other people.” Outrage. That’s quite a strong word, especially when coming right on the heels of so many exclamation points and curse words. Again I encourage those who are reading this stuff with puzzlement or concern: Please read the last two pages of comments under the last Iran thread. See if you can find any “outrage” or “hate” or “racism” – other than the outrage and hate coming from those accusing others of outrage, hate and racism.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 3 2026 0:09 utc | 90
Posted by: Siddhartha | Sep 3 2026 0:08 utc | 91
You’ve misinterpreted me. I said the exact opposite. Yeah, of course I think “Israel”, Oman and Yemen are very relevant to the war on Iran.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 3 2026 0:10 utc | 91
Either way it is unworthy of engagement.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 2 2026 23:24 utc | 80
100% right
Posted by: arby | Sep 3 2026 0:11 utc | 92
But while I’m here, please feel free to point me to any of my comments that you feel qualify as “outrage at other people.”
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 3 2026 0:09 utc | 92
Hey, Bub, thanks but no thanks.
All that is is an invitation to get down in the mud with you and wrestle. Something you seem to take undue pleasure in here. Are you by any chance a narcissist?
‘Twas the pig fair last September,
The day I well remember,
I was walking up and down in drunken pride.
When my knees began to flutter,
And I sank down in the gutter,
And a pig came up and lay down by my side.
As I lay there in the gutter,
Thinking thoughts I could not utter,
I thought I heard a passing lady say,
“You can tell the man who boozes,
By the company he chooses.”
And with that the pig got up and walked away.
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 3 2026 0:14 utc | 93
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 3 2026 0:10 utc | 93
Apologies, I misread your post.
Posted by: Siddhartha | Sep 3 2026 0:16 utc | 94
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 3 2026 0:14 utc | 95
More of the same. The cast iron pot calling the stainless steel kettle black. You won’t point out any “outrage” from me because you can’t. You lied. It’s that simple.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 3 2026 0:17 utc | 95
You won’t point out any “outrage” from me because you can’t.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 3 2026 0:17 utc | 97
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Wrong. I won’t point out any such thing because I don’t fucking care to. (See previous post above.)
Got that through your rather thick, irascible skull?
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 3 2026 0:21 utc | 96
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 3 2026 0:21 utc | 99
LOL you are so easy to trigger into immediate frothy outrage. It’s really funny. And again, you are wrong and you’re lying. You couldn’t demonstrate angry “outrage” from me if you tried, and you know it.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 3 2026 0:25 utc | 97
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2026 6:53 utc | 445 OK – I’ll descend briefly to your level … FU€K OFF Tom – you have a history of anti-semitic and homophobic slurs on this site as well as a considerable volume of irrelevant verbal diarrhea.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 2 2026 7:16 utc | 447
Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 2 2026 7:16 utc | 447===================================== Don, I completely agree with you.However, in view of how all this is just adding to the general stink here, I’m going to abstain from any further engagement on this stinky tangent. I hope Tom does too.
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 2 2026 7:19 utc | 448
Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 3 2026 0:29 utc | 98
Konami | Sep 2 2026 22:35 utc | 68
Excellent post. I’ve listened to Hudson speak on this more than once, and will now definitely read the full take in the book.
Posted by: robjira | Sep 3 2026 0:29 utc | 99
Typo ….‘Trump planet’ (copyright mark2)
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 2 2026 18:35 utc | 9
Perimetr | Sep 2 2026 18:52 utc | 12—If a planet Trump existed, it would be uninhabitable, one of those gas giants.
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 2 2026 21:53 utc | 47
😀 Trump-anus? He takes it away from Ur and has it all for himself.
🙂 Anyway, for Don Firineach, due to crazy sanctions in the dollar system of SWIFT I don’t know the conversion rate of high-protein birdseed to pretzels, but yeah, my pretzel is on Bahrain having a civil rebellion first, too. 😉 Soon the dollar will no longer be the metric system or molarity for price exchange. What ever will the natural world do?
Posted by: titmouse | Sep 3 2026 0:48 utc | 100