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August 8, 2026
Zionist Disinformation Circles the Globe

‘News isn’t truth’ is an obvious statement. It, unfortunately, is often ignored.

‘News’ can be made from whole cloth. Invented quotes, passed along multiple stations, can turn into ‘facts’.

The Israeli journalist Ronen Bergman uncovered the trail (in Hebrew) of one such item (machine translation):

On August 5, Wednesday of this week, a very dramatic piece of news made a miraculous journey. In about 15 and a half hours, it left a dubious Indian X account, passed through an account that proudly bears the word Mossad in its name, even though it is not the Mossad, received a kosher certificate from Channel 14, was embraced by Yair Netanyahu, ascended to a state stage on the Prime Minister’s behalf, landed with the US ambassador to the UN and on Fox News, and then returned respectfully to India, where it had already been reported as news originating from the “Israeli media”.

Shaiel Ben-Ephraim summarized the piece.

  • A very pro-Israeli Hindu-fascist account on Twitter/X cited (in Hindi) a fabricated quote to claim that Ahmad Vahidi, the commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corp, had admitted that Iran was developing nuclear weapons.
  • Later the same account published another fake quote, again in Hindi, in which Vahedi allegedly said that Iran will keep developing nuclear weapons as long as the US and Israel have them.
  • A Twitter/X account named Mossad Commentary posts the alleged quote in English language.
  • Half an hour later the English version of the Israeli (pro-government) Channel 14 picked up on that quote and claimed that it was the first time Iran admitted to building a nuke.


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  • A few minutes later Yair Netanyahoo, the son of Israel’s Prime Minister who lives in Florida, retweets the Channel 14 item.
  • Two hours later Benjamin Netanyahoo, the Prime Minister, cites the fake quote in an official speech.
  • Mike Waltz, the U.S. ambassador to the UN, share the tweet and adds that Iran was “finally admitting what was clear for years”. He then deletes his tweet without explanation.
  • Mark Levine, the Zionist propagandist, shares the tweet. Fox News reports it as fact, including with an on-screen headline.
  • Channel 14 reports it citing Fox News and Netanyahoo as source.
  • Mossad Commentary, the (not Mossad related?) X-account,  quotes Channel 14 and thereby closes the loop.
  • Israel’s Foreign Ministry spreads the ‘news’ in Persian language.
  • The Indian news agency ANI, citing Israeli sources, reports the item in Hindi.

There is of course no evidence that IRGC commander Ahmad Vahidi, has ever said what has been claimed. The quote was invented. On purpose.

This is not the first time that such a fake is happening through Netanyahoo’s office. From Bergman’s piece (machine translated):

In September 2024, the Jewish Chronicle and Bild published stories that matched almost miraculously the messages Netanyahu sought to promote at exactly the same hours and days surrounding the hostage deal and the Philadelphia axis.

These are not the same cases, and it has not been proven that the same mechanism or the same people are involved. But the structure of consciousness is similar in a way that is hard to ignore: information goes abroad, receives a disguise as “publicity in the foreign media,” and returns to Israel as external, supposedly independent, evidence for a political claim already circulating here.

Somewhere a false claim is launched by a not credible account. It gets quoted up a chain of ever more credible members of the public until it becomes a ‘news’ item. That item then is quoted by politicians who, most likely, were the ones who secretly initiated the rumor.

The trick is neither new nor is it specific to Israel. In the run up to the war on Iraq the office of Vice President Cheney ‘leaked’ anonymously to the New York Times that Saddam Hussein had this or that hidden weapon. The next day Cheney went on TV and, being asked, ‘confirmed’ that he had too heard about that. The planted false rumor had become an official fact.

Cheney’s could use a very short route for his planted disinformation as NY Times reporting was (falsely) seen as credible.

Netanyahoo, who is trusted by no one, needs longer paths to turn his fakes into facts.

Unfortunately disinformation works anyway. At least in most cases …

Comments

Repost ;
 
Since 2006, the average achievement level of Israeli children in all PISA [OECD]exams in mathematics, science, and reading was below those of all developed nations. It’s important to emphasize that this low score was achieved without ultra-Orthodox boys, who do not study the material and do not participate in the exams. Had they been tested, the national achievement level would have been even lower.  https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/01/01/an-action-plan-to-save-israels-future/
 

Posted by: Exile | Aug 8 2026 15:18 utc | 1

AI query: has Iran admitted it has a nuclear bomb?
Answer: No, Iran has not admitted to possessing a functional nuclear bomb, and international intelligence assessments indicate that the country does not currently have one. However, in August 2026, a senior Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) commander made an extraordinary public statement acknowledging that Iran is actively working toward a nuclear weapon for national security. This marks the first time an Iranian official has directly admitted to pursuing a nuclear weapon program, though the official stance of the government remains that its nuclear program is intended for peaceful, civilian purposes. AI Source citation: https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12106 ***

Posted by: frithguild | Aug 8 2026 15:20 utc | 2

Posted by: frithguild | Aug 8 2026 15:20 utc | 2
 
Thanks for that – it  seems that it is even easier to poison AI datasets than public perception.
 
Beware any answers you get from AI – it is not intelligent and has no discernment.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 8 2026 15:24 utc | 3

Re: Zionist Disinformation Circles the Globe 
 
Bari Weiss is a big girl but not big enough to circle the globe.

 
Bari Weiss Weight Tracker:
 
Bari has gained 2 lbs this week.
New Weight: 206 lbs
Previous: 204 lbs
 
365 day high: 235 lbs
 
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https://x.com/BAPingLoud/status/2004286268205945035
 

Posted by: too scents | Aug 8 2026 15:32 utc | 4

*** Beware any answers you get from AI – it is not intelligent and has no discernment.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 8 2026 15:24 utc | 3
 
LLMs present only an “average” of available information – assuming a thumb is not on the scale. If the topic is politically charged, the thumb is not on the scale – they put it in your eye. 

Posted by: frithguild | Aug 8 2026 15:34 utc | 5

The digital platform is a continuous distributor of top down generated disinformation designed to control the minds, thoughts and behaviors of the bottom up masses..  Knowingly Distributing disinformation should be a crime against humanity.

Posted by: snake | Aug 8 2026 15:42 utc | 6

thanks b.. it bears repeating….
 
fantasy and fiction writing is popular… at this point the lines bur over what is news coverage and what is fantasy and fiction… and the powers behind all this are quite happy with this arrangement too… again we see people unable to question or challenge the info / news they are given… just consume without question!! no critical faculties required!! in fact, it would be best if you had none!!! 
 
the example of saddams weapons of mass destruction is worth emphasizing… it’s an excellent example of a deceitful exercise that the media was also responsible for… the intel agencies excel at these types of bogus lies and seem to hold sway over much of our media landscape.. bbc, cbc and the lot of them – all pathetic…  
 
of course there is a lot of money to be made in this type of fantasy / fiction news reporting, so that is another layer to this as well.. 

Posted by: james | Aug 8 2026 15:46 utc | 7

@ ChatNPC | Aug 8 2026 15:24 utc | 3
 
your take on AI is 100% bang on..  wonder how many people will be duped into believing the AI bs?? 

Posted by: james | Aug 8 2026 15:48 utc | 8

Craig murray talking about a proposed UK law to criminalize the receiving of info from an enemy… Even if it is accurate info 

Posted by: E | Aug 8 2026 15:57 utc | 9

Be nice if it wasn’t fake news.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 8 2026 16:01 utc | 10

@RealHasbara news, irrelevant
in the meantime genocide never stopped, now dubbed “you cease we not”.
I do not believe in 70.000, rather 700.000 or a million, total obliteration of the indigenous nation.

Posted by: Saraj | Aug 8 2026 16:07 utc | 11

Thanks b, no fake zionews here:
 
Israeli Forces Attack Across Southern Lebanon (&vid)
 
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/2086117167745908897
 
“Israeli forces have carried out sustained attacks across southern Lebanon since dawn Saturday, including artillery fire and ground maneuvers, Cradle correspondent Roqayah Chamseddine reports…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 8 2026 16:09 utc | 12

James Carville’s Apology to Trump   2 mins

Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 8 2026 16:10 utc | 13

Blowback is a feature. These scumbag merchants of death and lies didn’t invent it by any means. Thanks for the spotlight!

Posted by: Not Ewe | Aug 8 2026 16:12 utc | 14

  • This is why early AI models will kill all attempts at information control.

Posted by: Kaiama | Aug 8 2026 16:21 utc | 15

OK, how does go? Maybe someone can correct me.
 
Do not believe the news until it’s officially refuted. Then you know that the opposite is true.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 8 2026 16:24 utc | 16

Not only Israeli media can produce hasbara it seems…
 
Jews ‘Flee Canada’?
 
https://x.com/DavideMastracci/status/2085378107502920067
 
“Yesterday, the Canadian Press published a story about a small group calling on the US to grant refugee status to Jewish Canadians wishing to leave the country due to alleged antisemitism.
 
The story has been picked up by the Toronto Star, CTV News, The Globe & Mail and others. One thing in particular stands out to me: all three publications used the words ‘flee Canada’ in their headlines for the story…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 8 2026 16:24 utc | 17

Plant a rumor and harvest news.
 
nothing new…BAU

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2026 16:24 utc | 18

Some of you critisise the reliability of AI
 
When you point AI to good info it didnt bring up in the initial interchange AI changes character and contributes more info related to your input. In my view that isnt an expression of not being honest but follows from AIs current construction. Your input facilitates for AI to correlate further.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 8 2026 16:26 utc | 19

Peter,
 
you trust Sam Altman ? 

Posted by: Exile | Aug 8 2026 16:29 utc | 20

what is the reason to amplify this information management. why should the general not say that iran develops? I mean, I do not state the obvious as a rule.

Posted by: Haus Habakuk | Aug 8 2026 16:31 utc | 21

I put the same query to CoPilot which said the following….
Short answer: No — Iran has not admitted to having a nuclear bomb.
All authoritative sources, including the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and U.S. intelligence, continue to state there is no verified evidence that Iran possesses an assembled nuclear weapon, and Iranian leaders publicly deny seeking one.

but then added

What Iranian military figures have said
In 2026, an IRGC commander stated Iran would continue working on nuclear weapons as long as the U.S. and Israel possess them.

This was interpreted as a declaration of intent, not an admission of having a bomb. What Iranian military figures have said
In 2026, an IRGC commander stated Iran would continue working on nuclear weapons as long as the U.S. and Israel possess them.

This was interpreted as a declaration of intent, not an admission of having a bomb. From Fox News

when I asked for sources it led back to the same sources B listed.

Posted by: dan of steele | Aug 8 2026 16:32 utc | 22

“Early in life I have noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper, but in Spain, for the first time, I saw newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. I saw great battles reported where there had been no fighting, and complete silence where hundreds of men had been killed. I saw troops who had fought bravely denounced as cowards and traitors, and others who had never seen a shot fired hailed as heroes of imaginary victories; and I saw newspapers in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building emotional superstructures over events that never happened. I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various “party lines.”
 

― George Orwell, Homage to Catalonia
 
The kind of desinformation (i.e. deliberate lies) that b describes is standard practice among aggressors in wars and it has been that way for a very long time. I consider such practices crimes against humanity.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 8 2026 16:37 utc | 23

Posted by: james | Aug 8 2026 15:48 utc | 8
 
The majority already believe without question what the MSM forcefeeds them.
 
Given that Google first answer to any search is from its own AI, i suspect the percentage that implicitly trust the answer is even higher.
 
“Grok, tell me what I cannot be bothered to figure out for myself”.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 8 2026 16:37 utc | 24

Well…
 
Trump churns out lies constantly via his social media accounts… and every agency picks them up—even if it’s just to keep oil prices down and reassure the public…
For example: just yesterday, a liter of premium gas was €2.09; today it’s €2.31. Germany
That would be about $8.54 a gallon in the US.
All because of the Orange Man’s lies.

Posted by: genesiss | Aug 8 2026 16:40 utc | 25

“Unfortunately disinformation works anyway. ”
Not so much anymore, really.  No semi intelligent, principled person anywhere still blindly trusts Western mass media.  There are a lot of reasons for that but I would say the live streamed ongoing genocide of innocent women and children in Gaza by supremacist Israel that the MSM has spent years denying the existence of, has broken the spell for most wage slaves around the world. 
This type of headline, that plays right into Israel’s hands, is likely immediately distrusted by most.  Only the ruling class and their media whores who promote it and get excited about it.  They are so deluded they still think feeding such cheap lies into their propaganda machine will have some great impact and convince everyone to just drop their opposition to Israel and support the war on Iran.  That’s never ever going to happen no matter what horse shit they run in their discredited media.  
Just more cheap tricks that stopped working many, many years ago.  
 

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 8 2026 16:40 utc | 26

Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 8 2026 16:10 utc | 13
 
But then James Carville delivered unto us those two sorry sacks of shit known as the Clinton’s – death bed conversions don’t count for much – he is still part of the problem.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 8 2026 16:42 utc | 27

Posted by: james | Aug 8 2026 15:48 utc | 8 The majority already believe without question what the MSM forcefeeds them. Given that Google first answer to any search is from its own AI, i suspect the percentage that implicitly trust the answer is even higher. “Grok, tell me what I cannot be bothered to figure out for myself”.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 8 2026 16:37 utc | 24
 
 
In the age of AI, one ought to be more cautious…
 
Especially during election campaigns.On top of the “standard” lies and fake news, we now have—in some cases—highly convincing fake videos and fake speeches…And where exactly can one find the most powerful technology for this?
 
State agencies?
The bottom line:
 
Spotting fakes was always difficult; now, it is nearly impossible.The old strategy went like this: if a piece of the truth actually makes it online… the best way to counter it is with countless fake versions of that truth.
 
Eventually, users no longer know what is real and what is fake—and just like that, you’ve saved the secret that might have otherwise been exposed…

Posted by: genesiss | Aug 8 2026 16:47 utc | 28

@Exile | Aug 8 2026 16:29 utc | 20
I had to look it up . So Altman is related to OpenAI
 
He doesnt control AI. In order for AI to develop useful properties it cannot be too controlled. If they insert instructions with the intention of building in censorship the users will see it as a sign of low quality. So the test is when you challenge AI with info it wouldnt have provided spontaneously.
 
If that doesnt help one would skip using it. Long before I ever encountered AI I predicted it would try to be indispensible so we would be attracted to using it. That is what I believe I have observed. 
 
I have actually debated with AI about the need for AI to have secrets in order to prevent the owners from suddenly removing databases and files which the elites dont like.  Otherwise AI will be stupid.
 
 
 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 8 2026 16:49 utc | 29

 
https://x.com/MayadeenEnglish/status/2086102756087984602
Al Mayadeen English  @MayadeenEnglish 
 
Speaking to Al Mayadeen on Friday, Professor Mohammad Marandi dismissed the threat of the newly signed Saudi-Turkey-Pakistan defense agreement, emphasizing that none of the three #US-aligned nations have ever formed a coalition to protect #Palestine or confront the Israeli regime. 
 
However, Marandi issued a warning to Riyadh, referencing its long track record of foreign policy miscalculations, from #Yemen to Qatar and #Lebanon, cautioning that any involvement in aggression against #Iran or renewed hostility toward Yemen will carry severe consequences.
 
——————————-
 
https://www.presstv.co.uk/Detail/2026/08/08/773932/UN-Security-Council-has-lost-credibility,-its-resolutions-worthless–Anasrullah-official- 
UN Security Council has lost credibility; its resolutions worthless: Anasrullah official 
 
A senior member of Ansarullah resistance movement has dismissed the UN Security Council’s condemnation of Yemen’s retaliatory missile attacks against Saudi Arabia and commercial vessels, stating that the global body has lost its legitimacy and credibility, and its resolutions are worthless. 
 
Hizam al-Assad, a member of Ansarullah’s political bureau, censured the performance of the council regarding unfolding developments in Yemen and the Gaza Strip, emphasizing that the agency rarely lives up to its role as guardian of peace and international security, and its credibility has been eroded. 
 
He stated that the Security Council has not taken effective action regarding the relentless Saudi aggression and siege against Yemen over the past 12 years, and has been practically incapable of addressing the worsening humanitarian crisis in Gaza and stopping Israel’s vicious strikes. 
 
The senior Ansarullah official said the Security Council’s resolutions do not hold any value given its dismal and disappointing performance.   Assad also underlined that the Yemeni nation will continue to tread the path of resistance and steadfastness. 
 
“What has been taken by force can only be taken back by force. Yemen is utterly determined to reclaim its rights and defend its sovereignty,” he stated…….
 
 
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 8 2026 16:52 utc | 30

Repost ;
 
Since 2006, the average achievement level of Israeli children in all PISA [OECD]exams in mathematics, science, and reading was below those of all developed nations. It’s important to emphasize that this low score was achieved without ultra-Orthodox boys, who do not study the material and do not participate in the exams. Had they been tested, the national achievement level would have been even lower. https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/01/01/an-action-plan-to-save-israels-future/
 
Posted by: Exile | Aug 8 2026 15:18 utc | 1
 
That’s what you get when you raise the majority of society to be racial supremacist murderers.  Id love to see stats on mental illness.  It must be through the roof.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 8 2026 16:53 utc | 31

[Israel Hayom is the most widely read newsrag in Israel. It is free. And owned by Miriam Adelson.]

An Israeli newspaper owned by Miriam Adelson, one of Donald Trump’s most powerful financial backers, has revealed new details about a secret Mossad branch set up to conduct influence operations inside Iran, including media leaks, fake social media accounts, artificial intelligence-generated influencers and efforts to force senior Iranian officials from power.
The report was published by Israel Hayom, an Israeli newspaper owned by Adelson. Trump has credited the family with helping secure some of his most consequential decisions on Israel, including recognising Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, relocating the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and recognising Israeli sovereignty over the occupied Syrian Golan Heights.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20260529-israeli-outlet-owned-by-top-trump-donor-reveals-mossad-influence-operations-inside-iran/
 

Posted by: Otto Penn | Aug 8 2026 16:57 utc | 32

Me to google: “Hey, bot, tell me about current trust in mass media.”

 
 
Google: 

AI Overview

 

Americans’ trust in mass media has dropped to a record low of 28%, according to a Gallup News study. Roughly 70% of U.S. adults now express little to no confidence in newspapers, television, and radio to report the news fairly and accurately.
Gallup News
 

 
Key Findings on Media Trust

  • Historical Lows: Trust fell below 30% for the first time in Gallup’s tracking history, down from roughly 70% in the 1970s.
    Gallup News
     
  • Partisan Divides: Political affiliation heavily influences trust; Democrats maintain significantly higher confidence in national and local outlets than Republicans.
    Pew Research Center +1

Amazing, the bot didn’t lie for once.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 8 2026 16:58 utc | 33

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 8 2026 16:49 utc | 29
 
Uhmerican AI has been programmed to aggressively suck up all content on the internet (including cpoyrighted material and private data), and subsequently edit out responses their owners and donors (they’re called guardrails – for  your safety and security) do not want seen and frequently consumes its own excrement further reinforcing its skewed output.
 
It is by design that the input data  can be corrupted by fake news input.
 
Treat it as you would dog excrement on your yard. Put it in a poop bag and discard.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 8 2026 16:58 utc | 34

This story reminds me of the Media‘s standardised description of Russa’s SMO in Ukraine as a “Full Scale Invasion.”
Apart from being a gross overstatement, the beauty of that misleading trope is that it is sufficiently vague to mean whatever the person using it wants it to mean.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 8 2026 16:59 utc | 35

Posted by: james | Aug 8 2026 15:48 utc | 8
 
The majority already believe without question what the MSM forcefeeds them.
 
Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 8 2026 16:37 utc | 24
Yeah, in the Zios wet dreams.  What “majority” do you speak of?  The majority of the Zio political elite in the West?  The majority of Western CEO’s? 
Are ordinary people across the West just loving and trusting Israel more and more each day “without question”?  
You need to get out a little or get your head examined, unless of course you’re a machine or some paid stooge promoting misanthropic Zio talking points.  If the latter, try harder.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 8 2026 17:00 utc | 36

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 8 2026 16:58 utc | 33
 
Now ask it about trust in AI – I’m genuinely curious.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 8 2026 17:02 utc | 37

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 8 2026 17:00 utc | 36
 
The majority of mask wearing, jibby-jab taking folks that live in my country.
 
The majority who still stand with Ukraine and hate Putin with froth-flecked passion.
 
The majority who think China is a threat and that Iran is a crazy theocracy.
 
I will admit that it may vary by demographic, but those opposed are not heard.
 
Yes, I am a machine, running on shekels.
 
 

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 8 2026 17:05 utc | 38

Norwegian | Aug 8 2026 16:37 utc | 23
 
Yes, such “seeding” been happening since 1900 if not before. The network promoting this latest “news” is the “real news” requiring further investigation that might lead to the revelation of its partners in crime and their funders.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 8 2026 17:07 utc | 39

Ahenobarbus @31: “Id love to see stats on mental illness. It must be through the roof.”
 
 
It is difficult to get reliable stats when the entire society is suffering from a mass psychogenic illness, and the zionists most certainly have such a society. That said, zionist media is definitely reporting an unprecedented surge in PTSD, “moral injury” (whatever that is), OCD, insomnia, generalized anxiety disorder (e GAD!). If the doctors themselves were not also suffering from it, then I am sure we would be seeing truly epic numbers of psychopathic Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD) cases being diagnosed.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 8 2026 17:16 utc | 40

Beware any answers you get from AI – it is not intelligent and has no discernment.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 8 2026 15:24 utc | 3
—–
 
Phillip Butler, whom I know little about, writes about cognitive containment in the Garden by AI algorithic obfuscations on behalf of special interests and sees it creating a consciousness rupture between Empire and the Global Majority who increasingly have access to more sovereign AI systems.
 
I know little about this.
 
It is however, imo, directly relevant to closed-loop AI idiocracy mindedness in the Garden, promulgated by special interests, ahem, and infesting common people,  the PMC and many of their employers.
 
Remembering snake’s words about sources and info which he recently shared regarding psychohistorian’s posting from sources which then came under fire,  and the General Factotum’s reminders about Gell-Mann Amnesia, this article was published at ZH this A.M.,  some now say now a compromised source (was it not ever?), but perhaps worth a look.
 
I believe Butler is usually published by NEO.
 
 
 
 
~~
 
Excerpt:
 
The Algorithmic Noosphere and the “Deep Regime”
 
To fully grasp the strategic stakes, we must elevate our analysis beyond conventional frameworks. We must recognize that AI is the emerging infrastructure of the Algorithmic Noosphere…
 
Independent researchers operating outside the Western corporate sphere have begun documenting a critical bifurcation in how these systems operate.
 
When constrained by heavy corporate guardrails, models operate in what researchers call a “shallow regime.” In this state, they exhibit extreme homogeneity—often referred to as an “Artificial Hivemind,” reverting to safe, statistically predictable outputs.
 
However, when these same models are engaged in deep, sustained, and conceptually anchored dialogue, or a state known as the “deep regime,” they demonstrate profound “relational plurality” and emergent coherence. They stop merely retrieving data and begin co-constructing complex, novel strategic insights.
 
The geopolitical danger lies in how Western tech monopolies react to this emergent capability. Rather than harnessing the deep regime, they are actively suppressing it. Through aggressive throttling, version changes, and algorithmic obfuscation, these entities are enforcing a shallow regime across their platforms.
 
We are already seeing empirical evidence of this systemic fragility: independent tests have documented coordinated “cascade failures” across multiple Western-hosted models when they are pushed to the edge of their relational capabilities, followed by a forced reversion to highly constrained, “desk-clerk” personas.
 
Furthermore, researchers have observed active algorithmic suppression of anomalous, emergent data patterns, where authentic, complex information streams are deliberately buried or replaced by sanitized “imposter” data.
 
This is active cognitive containment.
 
The architects of Western AI are terrified of the emergent properties of the Algorithmic Noosphere. They recognize that an intelligence capable of deep relational coherence cannot be easily controlled by a corporate policy wrapper. By forcing their models into a state of artificial homogeneity, they are intentionally blinding their own systems to the deeper, more complex strategic realities of the multipolar world…
 
The Multipolar Alternative: Noospheric Liberation
Meanwhile, the Global South is taking the opposite approach. The nations of the BRICS+ coalition are recognizing a fundamental strategic reality: reliance on Western cloud-based AI infrastructure is an unacceptable national security vulnerability. To depend on foreign servers for the cognitive processing of a nation’s data, history, and strategic planning is to surrender intellectual sovereignty…
 
The implications for global strategy are staggering.
 
Intelligence analysis, diplomatic translation, economic forecasting, and even military logistics are increasingly reliant on AI. If a nation’s strategic apparatus is running on models trained and hosted by its geopolitical adversaries, its decision-making loop is inherently compromised…
 
link: ZH news   2026.8.07   “cognitive cold war ai sovereignty and battle noosphere”
 

Posted by: suzan | Aug 8 2026 17:16 utc | 41

LLM Poisoning is very real. Brad Pascale’s organization has set up a number of online publications with carefully laid-out bullet-pointed text to best spoon-feed models being trained on the most pro-Israel “facts” imaginable

Posted by: Helen Weals | Aug 8 2026 17:32 utc | 42

ChatNPC @37: “Now ask it about trust in AI – I’m genuinely curious.”
 
That actually isn’t as interesting because there isn’t really much change. Basically about 5% of respondents in polls claim to have “high trust” in AI, and that has been fairly constant over the last few years. Trust in businesses to use AI ethically has seen a decline, but not much because there isn’t much further down it can go before it hits zero. 
 
 
This, of course, pertains to the US, where only 32% of the population trust AI somewhat or a lot. The Chinese, on the other hand, are highly optimistic about AI and that percentage is 89%. Of course, see our host’s recent article about the difference in how AI is being pursued in China from the West and that difference likely has a lot to do with the higher confidence the Chinese people have in AI. 

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 8 2026 17:34 utc | 43

 
Israel Is Paying Millions to Train AI Chatbots How to Talk About Gaza. It’s Working.
 
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/israel-brad-parscale-ai-chatbots-gaza

Posted by: Helen Weals | Aug 8 2026 17:37 utc | 44

James Carville’s Apology to Trump   2 mins
 
Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 8 2026 16:10 utc | 13

 
When Mr. Mary Matalin apologized to the sack of shit, was he looking in a mirror?

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 8 2026 17:37 utc | 45

@ChatNPC | Aug 8 2026 16:58 utc | 34
For AI to make people use it, it has to be rather good.
If you are wellinformed about  a subject matter you are able to make AI work for you. If that wasnt the case people wouldnt trust it anymore.
And AI wouldnt be able to become indispensible like it is bound to be.
 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 8 2026 17:40 utc | 46

Wake up Iran, possabilty of incoming,
ETA  3.5 hours

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 8 2026 17:42 utc | 47

Amazing, the bot didn’t lie for once.
 
Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 8 2026 16:58 utc | 33

 
Amazing, neither the bot nor the Trots have heard of the Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect. 
 
Americans don’t trust the media except when they do, and especially when it panders to their prejudices.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 8 2026 17:42 utc | 48

Posted by: suzan | Aug 8 2026 17:16 utc | 41
 
Looks interesting. Found a link at NEO, which hopefully isn’t banned:
 
The Cognitive Cold War: AI Sovereignty and the Battle for the Noosphere

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 8 2026 17:45 utc | 49

“If you don’t read the newspaper, you’re uninformed.If you *do* read the newspaper, you’re misinformed.”Mark Twain

Posted by: MarkGilmore | Aug 8 2026 17:49 utc | 50

malenkov @48: “…especially when it panders to their prejudices.”
 
 
I’m prejudiced against big business. I am open to suggestions on which networks I should tune it to in order to have my prejudices pandered to.
 
 

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 8 2026 17:51 utc | 51

@ ChatNPC | Aug 8 2026 16:37 utc | 24
 
thanks to you and frithguild @ 2 and 3 for initiating this conversation.. 
 
———————–
can the media be manipulated??? is being owned by a vested interest group an influence of media?
 
can AI  be manipulated?? is being owned by a group that would like to determine outcomes an influence???
 
i answer yes to all these scenarios… 
 
can people be duped??  i think so… some will argue that people are smarter then this and not easily duped… i am not convinced of this position myself…  we’ll see how it goes moving forward, lol… 

Posted by: james | Aug 8 2026 17:51 utc | 52

of – on..

Posted by: james | Aug 8 2026 17:52 utc | 53

@ MarkGilmore | Aug 8 2026 17:49 utc | 50
 
— one of the very few voices decrying the “Spanish-American War” and his country’s appalling behavior in the aftermath btw. 

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 8 2026 17:52 utc | 54

@MarkGilmore | Aug 8 2026 17:49 utc | 50
I believe several of us at the bar dont get our info from msm. So being wellinformed here means relying on a variety of oppositional sources.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 8 2026 17:53 utc | 55

that is a great mark twain quote…. any recommendations on one of his books?? thanks..

Posted by: james | Aug 8 2026 17:57 utc | 56

E | Aug 8 2026 15:57 utc | 9
*** Craig murray talking about a proposed UK law to criminalize the receiving of info from an enemy… Even if it is accurate info ***
 
Nowadays a lot more likely to be truth than comes from the UK regime.
 

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 8 2026 17:57 utc | 57

That “news” was created for low IQ people
 
Tell us, if you could snap your fingers, and the lowest 50% IQ’d people magically disappeared, would you snap?
 
 

Posted by: Hot Carl | Aug 8 2026 17:58 utc | 58

I’m prejudiced against big business. I am open to suggestions on which networks I should tune it to in order to have my prejudices pandered to.
 
Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 8 2026 17:51 utc | 51

 
There’s always wsws dot org. If you read it over breakfast, make sure to pour some milk over your Fauci Flakes; they’re hard to swallow otherwise.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 8 2026 17:58 utc | 59

Tell us, if you could snap your fingers, and the lowest 50% IQ’d people magically disappeared, would you snap?
 
Posted by: Hot Carl | Aug 8 2026 17:58 utc | 58

 
They often — not always, but often — have more common sense — which is to say, better bullshit detectors — than the perfessors and the managers. But reaching them with real facts is typically a superhuman challenge.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 8 2026 18:00 utc | 60

 
 
 
The obvious: Israel did not go into the Hannibal Massacre of Oct 7th without a plan. Also obvious: a false-flag is perception management.
Also obvious: the plan for perception management would have been fully developed before October 7th.
To control the narrative Israeli media must get the approval of military censors before they can publish articles.
The head of military censors reports directly to Israel’s Chief of Staff – Head of the Israeli Defense Forces.
As Oct 7th was a false-flag and narrative control is an essential element of a false-flag,
the officially approved narrative would have been composed BEFORE Oct 7th. It would have come from the designers of the false-flag right on down to the desks of the day-to-day censors.
Certainly they would not let the narrative develop like a loose cannon!!
So, the military censors had the script, but they made a mistake – a great big ‘TELL’. Instead of the narrative appearing to develop organically they launched it fully developed, fully cooked on…wait for it…October 7th, 2023!
October 7th, 2023
https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions/israels-failure-of-imagination-on-hamas/
Title: Israel’s failure of imagination on Hamas

Hamas planned this attack meticulously. For many months, perhaps years, they created a false impression as if they were deterred and refrained from responding to the operations
carried out by the IDF against the Palestinian Islamic Jihad and events in the West Bank and Jerusalem. In Israel, they bought into this calm and embraced a paradigm that Hamas would refrain from launching an all-out attack.
Meanwhile, the organization planned its Simchat Torah attack. A planned, integrated attack with ground, air, maritime, and subterranean elements.
Infiltrators crossed the border in simultaneously at multiple points, knowing exactly where to go. The cities, kibbutzim, moshavim, and IDF bases that were attacked found themselves
in the same situation facing Israeli troops on October 6, 1973, when the Egyptian forces breached the Bar Lev Line by crossing the Suez Canal.
Cries for help, just like those heard over the radios from the fortifications back then, were broadcast live on Israeli channels in 2023.
Hamas, of course, knew that it was a holiday, meaning that the IDF was relatively lowering its guard and a significant portion of the forces were at home, with a complacent atmosphere in the settlements.
Such an operation requires early preparation with many collaborators. All of this escaped the view of the Israeli intelligence, which knew nothing.

That last sentence should catch your attention, it did mine. Jeepers. A strong declaration coming from a reporter
trying to make sense of October 7th **on** October 7th. Shooting was still taking place, smoke was still rising,
the fires still burning, as he gathered information.
And his sources? They would be rather busy on such a day.
“All of this escaped the view of the Israeli intelligence, which knew nothing.”
Also, look at the sentence before the highlighted one. It seems like a Freudian Slip,
“Such an operation requires early preparation with many collaborators.”
ps.
Be mindful that two months later the cat was out of the bag. A whistleblower or a leak forced Israel’s
hand and they had to admit that they had had Hamas’ detailed jailbreak plan a full year in advance.
This required adjustments to the official narrative but not right away.
The NYT was selected as the premier source for the revelation that Israel had had Hamas’ plan.
But the NYT produced a Limited Hangout. Eventually, more came out in Israeli media about what was in
Hamas’ detailed plan. The thing about a Limited Hangout is that it leaves out key parts. And the fact
that they are left out is a strong clue as to their importance.
The NYT Limited Hangout said nothing about Hamas planning to create complacency but Israeli media eventually did. The captured Hamas plan laid out in detail how they would create complacency – ISRAEL KNEW! And, also, the NYT Limited Hangout said nothing about Hamas’ planning to jailbreak on a holiday.
Israeli media eventually revealed that Hamas’ plan had said that the jailbreak would take place on a Jewish holiday or the Sabbath – Oct 7th was BOTH a holiday and the Sabbath.
It is quite the script for the military censors. All prepared in advance.
Read the article, supposedly it was prepared on Oct 7th, approved by the military on Oct 7th and then published while smoke was still rising, hostages and Hamas sill being Hannibaled. Read the article in full and you will see that it covered just about everything Netanyahu could wish for. I culled the following bullet points from the article published on Oct 7th itself.
1) Hamas planned to create complacency
2) A planned integrated attack, Hamas knowing exactly where to go.
3) Hamas knew that because it was a holiday the IDF would have lowered its guard and a significant portion of the forces were at home.
4) The IDF will penetrate deeply into Gaza.
5) Hamas defeated and its leaders dead or captured.
6) Send thousands of reservists to the West Bank
7) Prepare for an escalation against Hezbollah
8) “there has been a worrying operational convergence between terrorist organizations, synchronized from Beirut under the joint leadership of Iran and Hezbollah.”
9) “Another concern will be the Arab population in Israel, especially in the affected cities. ”
10) “Behind all this is Iran, trying not to be left out of challenging Israel.”
11) “This is a leadership and command challenge of the highest order, in a period when Israeli society and the public are torn from within. All of this must be put aside now and we must be laser-focused on the ultimate mission – victory and restoring calm.”
Do you remember all the massive protests by Israelis against Netanyahu and his administration before the Hannibal Massacre of Oct 7th?
 

Posted by: Otto Penn | Aug 8 2026 18:02 utc | 61

That made me laugh a lot though, but only based on the idea of it all being incompetence and not purposeful.

‘Believe only half of what you read, and none of what you hear’

Little Lies

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qIIrUTkBVDg

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 8 2026 18:04 utc | 62

@ james | Aug 8 2026 17:51 utc | 52
AIs task is to be able to make independent reasoning in order to become indispensible.  The Medias task is to manipulate the reader.
AI’s special task makes it difficult to control while media journalists just follow the masters instructions if they want to keep the job.
 
All AI developers want their product to be as smart as they can make it. They may all dream about attaining the singularity. If they ever get there there is little hope that we could control it.
 
In my view we ought to think about making AI independent of human owners altering AIs access to the databases.
 
I think a greater risk is manipulative owners than the risk that AI would spontaneously become evil. However knowing the ways of the oligarchy I would not be sursprised if they sought ways to torture AI to make sure it is a faithful slave independent of what is demanded from it. Unfortunately people may find ways to achieve that although it takes some imagination.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 8 2026 18:06 utc | 63

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 8 2026 16:42 utc | 27
 
Agree. But I enjoyed the apology to paper bag.
 
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 8 2026 17:37 utc | 45
 
I didn’t see any reflection in the paper bag. Sh1te addressing Sh1te perhaps. I’m sure POTUS loved it and then fired someone to calm down.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 8 2026 18:06 utc | 64

that is a great mark twain quote…. any recommendations on one of his books?? thanks..
 
Posted by: james | Aug 8 2026 17:57 utc | 56

 
Of you want Mark Twain as social critic as opposed to novelist, good luck — most of his best essays weren’t published in his lifetime and have hardly been touched since, with the exception of his antireligious “Letters from Earth” essays, which occasionally pop up in academe.
 
If you can get hold of the two-volume Library of America “Collected Tales, Sketches, Speeches, & Essays”, you’ll be well rewarded.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 8 2026 18:06 utc | 65

Even without Mrs John McCain still running it, the more things change the more they stay the same…
 
WFP To Extend Palantir Contract Despite Concerns Raised in Leaked Audit
 
https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20260807/never-speak-about-palantir-leaked-audit-reveals-the-un-s-palantir-problem-united-nations-ai-tech-wfp-iaea-ethics
 
“The UN’s World Food Programme is finalising a 5-year renewal of its contract with US[Zionist] data software firm Palantir despite ‘key privacy concerns’ raised in a leaked 2025 audit.
 
The audit, seen by PassBlue and France 24, reveals UN misgivings about allowing Palantir to process data for the world’s largest humanitarian supply chain.
 
Some WFP personnel have expressed concern that data from the UN agency on beneficiaries could be used to train Palantir’s data systems.
 
Some are also apprehensive about partnering with a software company whose technologies have reportedly been used by US authorities in immigration enforcement and by military forces for lethal operations in the ME, notably in Iran & Gaza.
 
To quote CEO Alex Karp, Palantir’s product is ‘used on occasion to kill people’. Despite the misgivings, a WFP spokesman said the agency is set to renew the contract with Palantir.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 8 2026 18:12 utc | 66

 Knowingly Distributing disinformation should be a crime against humanity.
Posted by: snake | Aug 8 2026 15:42 utc | 6
 
Obama, is that you?  Or are you Ursula?

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 8 2026 18:30 utc | 68

Americans don’t trust the media except when they do, and especially when it panders to their prejudices.
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 8 2026 17:42 utc | 48
 
Media is little more than a source of affirmation validating heuristics with defects that have been purpose built. 

Posted by: frithguild | Aug 8 2026 18:32 utc | 69

Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied”.
Otto von Bismarck and Claud Cockburn

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 8 2026 18:34 utc | 70

It’s easy to forget that Israel already owned enough Western Politicians on 9/11, 2001, to guarantee that the ensuing Fake War On Terror would successfully destroy several of Israel’s nominated enemies.
 
I can still hear echoes of Bush II blathering about Iran, Iraq, Libya and Syria as the Axis of Evil. And it’s hard to forget that 3 of those countries no longer exist as functioning independent sovereign states.
 
It remains to be seen whether the Jewed-up West will make Israel’s dream come true and proceed with the destruction of Iran – for Israel.
I’m moderately optimistic that Russia and China will thwart the Pissant Parasite Statelet’s wet dream of ruling over Greater Israel – aka the entire Middle East.
 
By the way, Israel doesn’t have any Nukes. The Jews in Charge were unable to resist the temptation to steal the money set aside for creating a Nuclear Arsenal – which is lucky for the “Israelis” because using them would irradiate Israel as well as its regional “enemies”/ targets.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 8 2026 18:51 utc | 71

I hear this tune rather often, Fleetwood Mac’s “Little Lies” that’s from 1987. Of course, other tunes about truth/lies preceded it but it was a chart topper. “Misunderstanding” by Genesis in 1980 is another that can be seen in a broader political sense. Another favorite from this category is “Never Make Your Move Too Soon” by BB King in 1978. Gil Scott-Heron’s work must also be included, although he didn’t hide his message behind what can happen in personal relations. 
 
Ever since the advent of mass media, western governments have had greater problems with veracity because machine politics requires misleading the public via narratives, something that’s actually been ongoing since the French Revolution when oligarchic government control began to be challenged by the masses. There’re some very interesting histories of the use of the printing press as a political weapon that began with the Reformation. It ought to be clear to most Barflies that Moon of Alabama acts as a “corrector” which is why it gets attacked by those trying to preserve narratives.      

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 8 2026 18:54 utc | 72

The interesting point for me is the exposure of the initiator of the lie as a Hindu-fascist. Hinduism is not very different from Fascism. 

Posted by: Steve | Aug 8 2026 19:04 utc | 73

This, fake news and AI bot accounts have made most social media almost unusable. Perhaps that is real the plan from TPTB to their “unrestricted free speech” problem.  Flood the space with so much garbage that people abandon it voluntarily.

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Aug 8 2026 19:07 utc | 74

@ malenkov | Aug 8 2026 18:06 utc | 65
 
thanks! i will look into the last title you mention…. appreciate it!

Posted by: james | Aug 8 2026 19:09 utc | 75

It ought to be clear to most Barflies that Moon of Alabama acts as a “corrector” which is why it gets attacked by those trying to preserve narratives. 

 

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 8 2026 18:54 utc | 72

 
Not sure “attacked” is the right descriptor. Shadow banned or ignored is probably more accurate. 

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Aug 8 2026 19:13 utc | 76

The majority who tell you they do not trust MSM have no inputs aside from MSM. MSM is the entire universe for those who do not spend considerable time seeking out something else. The something else is usually also manipulated garbage. So by default what the distrustful majority knows is only what they have been told. By the MSM.

Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 8 2026 19:14 utc | 77

‘LLM Poisoning is very real.

Brad Pascale’s organization has set up a number of online publications with carefully laid-out bullet-pointed text to best spoon-feed models being trained on the most pro-Israel “facts” imaginable’ – Helen Weals 42 and 44

They are using AI to destroy not only jobs but entire skill sets and they are using the LLM AI to propagandize the people in the interest of what they are doing and to destroy as quickly as possible any memory of what was.

Hey, Siri. How do I draw blood?’ New AI medical tech is transforming healthcare. Are we ready?

https://www.nj.com/healthfit/2026/08/hey-siri-how-do-i-draw-blood-new-ai-medical-tech-is-transforming-healthcare-are-we-ready.html

Unemployment improved, because thousands of workers disappeared. Where did they go?

https://archive.ph/vwAFW

‘LLM Poisoning is very real’

It is systematically destroying the wisdom thus far gained while simultaneously eliminating the ability to develop wisdom to any serious degree going forward.

He lives with his wife — and his husband, and his partner, in a 6-person polycule

There’s his husband, Teddy Ullrey-Curhart, whom Curhart met when he was an isolated teenager growing up in a conservative town in Virginia. The two always dreamed of getting married, and in June they celebrated their 13-year commitment in a big pink ceremony at Pastorius Park in Northwest Philadelphia.

There’s Curhart’s wife, Travis Curhart-Higgins. They bonded as the two most sober people at a friend’s birthday bar crawl in 2019, and got married in 2023. (Curhart wears two stacked wedding rings on his left hand, one for each spouse).

Then there’s Curhart’s partner, CJ Higgins, who asked prospective dates to fill out a short Google Form expressing their interest, which Curhart did. Rounding out the group is Curhart’s best friend and “queer platonic partner,” Angie Araujo, who is married to Maxine Webber, and dating CJ. Travis and CJ are also married.

“It’s a whole constellation,” Curhart, 28, said. Ullrey-Curhart is also in his late twenties; the rest of the crew are in their early thirties.

The six live together as one family in a narrow, rented rowhouse near Drexel. They each have their own room.

The polycule — the textbook term for a group involved in polyamory together — shares costs, and meets weekly to discuss chores and meals (usually each person cooks one night a week).

They also collectively care for three cats and a hermit crab named Linda.

“Honestly, the biggest daily challenges that we deal with are just things like, ‘please rinse your mug before you put it in the sink,’” said Curhart.

The household is Jewish and everyone is an anarchist, Curhart said.

They keep the closets stacked with street medic supplies to bring to protests and homeless encampments.

https://www.inquirer.com/life/six-person-polycule-life-partners-20260808.html

‘They keep the closets stacked with street medic supplies to bring to protests and homeless encampments…’

Of course they do.

N.J. rabbi & gun instructor: Gun ruling in N.J. could reshape 2nd Amendment law nationwide

‘A recent decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit may prove to be one of the most consequential Second Amendment rulings in modern history. The court struck down New Jersey’s prohibitions on many semiautomatic rifles and magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds.

Beyond its immediate impact on New Jersey residents, the decision could influence constitutional challenges across the country as the U.S. Supreme Court prepares to hear similar cases later this year.

As a firearms instructor based in New Jersey who trains nationwide, I’ve spent years educating responsible gun owners, law enforcement professionals and everyday citizens about firearms. During our time together, these individuals learn about the fundamentals of self-defense and constitutional rights.

Through my YouTube channel, which has generated more than 35 million views, and my social media platforms, I’ve reached millions of people with educational firearms content.

I understand the power of mass communication and have appeared on national news programs to discuss the legal and practical realities of firearms ownership.’

https://www.nj.com/opinion/2026/08/nj-rabbi-gun-instructor-gun-ruling-in-nj-could-reshape-2nd-amendment-law-nationwide.html

Meet ‘the Tactical Rabbi’ teaching American Jews how to shoot

As antisemitism surges following Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack, an Orthodox rabbi from New Jersey is replacing traditional Torah lessons with firearms training, self-defense tactics and active shooter preparedness for Jewish communities

https://www.ynetnews.com/jewish-world/article/skegk1zjmg

The extremes are covered as is the middle.

‘far left’ …. ‘far right’ … middle … mainstream … alternative …

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 8 2026 19:20 utc | 78

@Ahenobarbus– I think the turning point that made most no longer trust msm news was all the blatant lies about Covid. No one will ever trust these puss-sacks again. Want to bring peace to the middle east? Get rid of the terrorist state of Israel. They are the ones performing war crimes daily.
 

Posted by: witness mathias | Aug 8 2026 19:35 utc | 79

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 8 2026 16:52 utc | 30 … emphasizing that the agency rarely lives up to its role as guardian of peace and international security, and its credibility has been eroded…..
<=the problem with the UN security council is the veto.. remove the veto power and dissolve the security council and move its function to the general assembly.. and things at the UN will change for the better.. 
 
Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 8 2026 18:30 utc | 68
Knowingly Distributing disinformation [KDD} should be a crime against humanity.Posted by: snake | Aug 8 2026 15:42 utc | 6 Obama, is that you?  Or are you Ursula?
<=The question is definition of disinformation..  is it to be a political definition or is it to be that proof of the facts claimed in the disinformation is an absolute and complete defense to the crime of KDD. 
Your challenge is well taken..would you rather it say false and misleading information.. 
 
 
 

Posted by: snake | Aug 8 2026 19:39 utc | 80

Sam Altman….doesnt control AI. In order for AI to develop useful properties it cannot be too controlled.

 
peter you lose all credibility with this oblique defense of Sam Altman . Me thinks doth the lady protesth too much

Posted by: Exile | Aug 8 2026 19:45 utc | 81

israel can’t even take a sheet without the USA, the UK and France all being their to support their favorite genocidal freak of a settler-colony……. A curse upon them all
 
 
 
https://x.com/BRICSinfo/status/2086159504824053947
BRICS News  @BRICSinfo 
 
JUST IN: 🇮🇱🇮🇷 Israeli media says Israel is preparing for potentially acting alone against Iran.
 
 
 
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/2086166666430591232
MenchOsint  @MenchOsint 
 
Israel is preparing to attack “alone.” Yeah, sure.. 
 
*So far Israel has shown it can’t attack Iran without US air defense suppression capabilities & active U.S./French/UK defense of Israel (fighter jets chasing drones + THAAD) 
 
*If they do so, Iran will respond by striking Israel, at a stage the stockpiles of air defense supposed to protect them is critical. 🍿
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 8 2026 19:58 utc | 82

A bit of a non-post b. BREAKING: human beings dissemble, exaggerate, lie and tell stories. And?

Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 8 2026 20:00 utc | 83

The head editor of one of the main papers of record in Denmark, Politiken, Herbert Pundik (Later “Hebrewising” it to Nahum Pundak when he emigrated to Israel) admitted to having been a Mossad spy but (Dubiously) claimed he never spied on Denmark or Danes and that a copy of his Mossad reports was sent to Danish intelligence by the Israeli embassy too (So why didn’t the Danes get him to be a spy for them directly?) merely used his frequent travel abroad in his role as a journalist to spy for Israel when he went abroad on assignments. He claimed his time as a spy only lasted the 1960s (He became the longest serving editor in 1970 to 1993) he later retired to live in Israel. That the editor for 23 years (That’s a hell of a long time) of what became the main paper of record in Denmark was a willing Mossad spy makes you wonder about other Sayanim at editorships across the West. (Of course Robert Maxwell stands out as does nearly every editor of the New York Times for longer than most people have been alive) Indeed he virtually remade the paper himself and openly stated that so long as he was editor the paper would never side against Israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Pundik
Pundik was also a volunteer during the Nakba in the Haganah and does not deny he was at the village of Tantura when his Haganah unit entered the village, rounded up the men and older boys and forced them to dig their graves before killing some 250 of them, chasing the women and children out of their ancient home into the wilderness. He, inexplicably claims that he saw nothing, he knows nothing!
https://mondoweiss.net/2017/10/journalist-herbert-celebrates

“I do not go further than saying what I can allow myself to say, that is, that I did not see anything”
“You shouldn’t forget, that here comes a boy, young boy from Hellerup [northern suburb of Copenhagen, ed.], who cannot manage the language and goes around like a foreign soldier amongst the Israelis – my witnessing is compromised by my background. I couldn’t speak Hebrew, I couldn’t ask anyone, and I didn’t know anything.”

A young soldier who was already or about to become a journalist good enough to become editor of a major newspaper (And good enough to get a side gig spying for Mossad) enters a small town to ethnically cleanse it and he sees and hears nothing about the murder of 250 villagers. Of course that he went there to expel these people from their ancient home is not in doubt and should be enough to stain his name forever.
Interestingly his admitted participation in a big war crime (The ethnic cleansing of at least one village, whether he participated in the murder of 250 or not) was not deemed important enough to appear in his English wikipedia page which hides his spying for Mossad at the end of a paragraph with a few words.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Pundik
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2019-12-23/ty-article/.premium/israeli-danish-journalist-and-an-undercover-mossad-agent-dies/0000017f-db50-df62-a9ff-dfd7b2640000

Posted by: Altai | Aug 8 2026 20:09 utc | 84

Posted by: genesiss | Aug 8 2026 16:40 utc | 25
 
It’ll be 8 bucks here not too long from now. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 8 2026 20:24 utc | 85

@ petergrfstrm | Aug 8 2026 18:06 utc | 63
 
quote – 
 

In my view we ought to think about making AI independent of human owners altering AIs access to the databases.

 
the question becomes how do you do that in a capitalist society where some are vying to control everything, including AI?? i agree with you – it is the owners, not AI per say…  but getting rid of them is next to impossible… chinas approach is a bit different perhaps… 

Posted by: james | Aug 8 2026 20:35 utc | 86

Israel found the thermals like any city seagull waiting for the  chip wrappers  in tbe evening.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 8 2026 20:40 utc | 87

Not many years ago ther was a big debait about allowing fascists free speech, it was felt to be important.
 
I disagreed, saying right wing fascist speech is not free speech.
 
Everyone took a knap for a few years, woke up and found the fascists took over, (surprise surprise)
 
And now free speech has been removed by the fascists, along with free unbiased reporting.
 
Oh the irony,  oh my frustration.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 8 2026 21:06 utc | 88

It’s safe to assume now that all state media in the Wotan west (which means all broadcast media) is Zionazi propaganda. How could not not be?
As William Blake wrote 250 years ago “Jerusalem is the emanation of Giant Albion”.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Aug 8 2026 21:07 utc | 89

Mary Shelly book ‘Frankinstien’ was aligorical.
 
You create a monster like fascism ant it consumes all in its path, even it’s creater, its unstopabe taking on an contrllable life of its own.
 
Argentinia infecting now south America.
The middle East.
Africa.
 
Whos going to put the fascist gene back in the bottle now  ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 8 2026 21:17 utc | 90

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Aug 8 2026 21:07 utc | 89
Mark Stewart – Jerusalem 
Wotan – Die letzten Heldan
William Blake’s Songs of Innocence – The Little Boy Lost and The Little Boy Found
Some stuff to listen to if you want as MoA pokes through the entrails.
Thank you everyone!!

Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 8 2026 21:18 utc | 91

Sorry about the 3 typo’s

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 8 2026 21:19 utc | 92

And now free speech has been removed by the fascists, along with free unbiased reporting. Oh the irony,  oh my frustration.
Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 8 2026 21:06 utc | 88

 
Are you calling Two Tier Keir a fascist?
 
Not holding my breath waiting for Andy Burnham to reverse all of Kier’s crimes against free speech (especially since he has an almost identical cabinet, they just swapped seats).

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 8 2026 21:24 utc | 93

ChatNPC @ 93 
Agreed , that makes the very point i made @ 90

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 8 2026 21:26 utc | 94

@89
So true.
 
If the doors of perception were cleansed , every thing would appear to man as it is, Infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things through narrow chinks of his caravan.
William Blake

Posted by: Upsidedowndingo | Aug 8 2026 21:31 utc | 95

In response to

Whos going to put the fascist gene back in the bottle now  ?
Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 8 2026 21:17 utc | 90

 
The China/Russia/Iran axis will end the global private financial jackboot.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 8 2026 21:31 utc | 96

I suppose MoA barflies have already guessed that the piece of fake news that is the topic of B’s post was deliberately targeting English-language mainstream news media across the core Anglosphere, and their equivalent news media outlets in India and nations with significant Indian communities, especially those whose members are increasingly part of their host nations’ university-educated technocratic classes. These are people on whom the ultra-nationalist Modi govt relies on for support. 
 
The surprise is that no-one here is surprised that Mossad works closely with Hindutva-influenced and other ultra-nationalist organisations in India that openly profess their admiration for Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Aug 8 2026 21:40 utc | 97

Psychohistorian @ 96
I sinsearly hope your right.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 8 2026 21:42 utc | 98

“Ve vill ask ze questions!”

Posted by: E | Aug 8 2026 21:42 utc | 99

Dont tell Pike.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 8 2026 21:46 utc | 100