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August 31, 2026
War On Iran: – IRGC Defeats U.S. Strait Clearing Scheme

Last Friday, August 28, the U.S. Central Command claimed to have removed all sea mines from the Strait of Hormuz:

U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) has announced that U.S. forces have cleared Iranian sea mines from the internationally recognized shipping lanes in the Strait of Hormuz, saying the routes are now open to commercial shipping.

The announcement follows earlier statements by President Donald Trump that U.S. forces had removed or detonated mines in international waters in the strait. Cooper’s latest video provides CENTCOM’s formal operational confirmation that the Traffic Separation Scheme has been cleared.

From the position of the U.S. this was, of course, good news.

There was the slight problem that no one believed it:

U.S. allies have privately assessed that some mines may not have been cleared. Earlier estimates from the International Maritime Organization and industry groups placed the number of mines in the historic shipping lanes at around 80, with some assessments higher.

Allied officials have also warned that sea currents can move mines and that residual risks could remain outside the main monitored lanes.

The International Maritime Organization and maritime information centers continue to advise vessels to exercise maximum caution in the area. Shipping companies and insurers are also conducting their own risk assessments.

Iran continued to warn ships to not use any routes besides the one’s designated by it.

(However, there has been no evidence yet that any mines had indeed been laid.)

On Sunday Iran said that the U.S. had attacked Iranian military positions on the island of Larak which sits in the northern edge of the Strait of Hormuz. This was the first attack after a month of relative peace. The strike resulted in the death and injury of several Iranian servicemen.

CentCom later confirmed the strike:

U.S. forces attacked two Iranian rocket launchers on an island in the Strait of Hormuz on Sunday, according to the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM), marking the first publicly confirmed strike on Iran in weeks.

In a statement to TIME, CENTCOM spokesperson Capt. Tim Hawkins confirmed the strikes on the launchers on Larak Island, adding that Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) forces “were observed preparing to launch rockets with sea mines” into the strait.

Iran has Fajr-5 missiles which can lay mines up to a 100 kilometer distance. Fired from Larak the mines can be deployed all over the Strait and up the western and eastern coast of the UAE.

The Iranian Republican Guards Corp (IRGC) promised revenge for the U.S. strike. Within a few hours it launched missiles at U.S. bases in Jordan:

In a statement issued on Monday morning, the IRGC said a combined missile and drone operation, codenamed “Punishment of the Aggressor,” targeted the King Hussein and Al-Azraq military bases hosting US forces.

The operation hit “technical and repair infrastructure, as well as the enemy fighter deployment sites,” inflicting significant damage on the aggressor’s military assets.

Video from Jordan showed the launch of several air defense missiles. There are no reports yet of impacts from the Iranian strikes.

An additional Iranian response was launched with drones targeting U.S. positions in the United Arab Emirates:

The army said in a statement on Monday morning that the attack involved dozens of suicide drones, and struck locations housing US military helicopters and personnel at al-Minhad Air Base, located approximately 24 kilometers (15 miles) south of Dubai.

The UAE said its air defenses engaged some drones but gave no information of the results or impacts.

Iran then announced a third strike against U.S. assets:

The Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) says its air defense forces have shot down a US MQ-9 long-range unmanned aerial vehicle over the Strait of Hormuz.

In a statement on Monday, the IRGC said the drone was struck by missile fire from the force’s modern air defense units and crashed into the waters of the Persian Gulf.

In total more than 50 MQ-9 drones, at a price of $30 million each, have been shot down by Iran during the conflict.

Three strikes against U.S. positions and assets is a intentionally disproportional response for the U.S. strike.

In an additional announcement the Islamic Republic reported that a supertanker in the Strait had hit two mines:

The Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC)’s Navy says a rogue supertanker attempting to navigate an unauthorized route in the Strait of Hormuz struck two sea mines, triggering massive fires on board the vessel and bringing it to a complete stop.

In a statement issued on Monday, the IRGC Navy said the tanker had attempted to pass through a route not authorized under the Islamic Republic’s maritime security regulations.

While the damage of the ship has yet to be confirmed by independent sources it is reasonable to assume that the Iranian official statement is true.

The CentCom scheme of declaring all mines cleared to reopen the Strait has thus been defeated.

It is obviously still Iran which has the total control over the Strait.

While some tankers carrying oil are allowed to slip through, rumors have it that some of these are also carrying Iranian oil and are thus defeating the blockade of Iran which the U.S. imposed.

As the consequence of the above skirmishes Brent crude oil prices rose 2%.

Meanwhile the U.S. military continues to ‘leak’ reports to the press which condemn the whole Iran operation:

Several U.S. military leaders have advised Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth that prolonging large-scale operations against Iran is unsustainable and risks weakening their ability to confront threats elsewhere, including the U.S. homeland, according to people familiar with a recent assessment prepared for the Pentagon chief.

The warnings — detailed for Hegseth by the heads of the Army, Navy and Air Force and the four-star commanders overseeing U.S. operations throughout Europe, Asia and Latin America — appear in the Aug. 14 edition of the Secretary of Defense Orders Book (SDOB), these people said. They described the assessment to The Washington Post on the condition of anonymity because the document is classified.

This leaks come after others claiming a lack of ammunition and discomfort with the long deployment of U.S. assets.

It is obvious that the bowels of the Pentagon are quite uncomfortable with its head’s decisions.

Comments

and when Netanyahu says ‘jump’ then Trump jumps. 
Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 10:21 utc | 126
 
Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 12:23 utc | 7
Correct.  That sex tape must be a doozy!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 31 2026 17:03 utc | 101

Rescue teams are searching for the crew of a ship that doesn’t exist which passed through a closed strait that was open and didn’t stop when it hit a mine that wasn’t there.

Meanwhile forces have attacked those who say they placed it, alleging that it was not there and that the open straight was not closed, not unclosed, and not unopen if not unclosed meant the same thing as not unopen.

Media pundits reacted by declaring everything and oil prices celebrated.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 31 2026 17:03 utc | 102

 
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/2094468880039129220
MenchOsint  @MenchOsint 
 
IRGC announces to have shot down an MQ-9 Drone over the Strait of Hormuz a few moments ago.
 
The second loss in 24 hours.
 
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https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/2094321304581128296
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺  @ejmalrai 
 
Iran does not need every radar to see what is moving through Hormuz. Its drones, islands, coastal heights and thermal cameras provide overlapping surveillance. Iranian drones can cover and identify all vessels that have switched off their Automatic Identification System (AIS).
 
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/8/31/iran-war-live-irgc-attacks-us-bases-in-jordan-after-us-bombs-larak-island
US must be ‘besieged in the region’: Iran’s deputy parliament speaker 
 
Iran’s deputy parliament speaker says the US must be “besieged in the region” and that Tehran should target all oil-exporting countries to increase economic pressure on Washington. 
 
“Breaking the siege against us will not be achieved through military attack alone. Rather, we must besiege America in the region,” Hamidreza Haji Babaei said. 
 
“Anyone who has taken a position in the enemy’s camp, whether economically [or] politically through their presence in cyberspace, in terms of technology, or in any other way that helps America, should be targeted.”
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 31 2026 17:04 utc | 103

Can’t wait to see the endgame of this.
Posted by: sirdavide | Aug 31 2026 11:35 utc | 1
 
An insolvent and isolated Federal Gov‘t with Epstein Class looting Joe-Sixpack. 
 
Posted by: Amalek (né Exile) | Aug 31 2026 13:00 utc | 18
That sums it up.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 31 2026 17:05 utc | 104

Fred777 | Aug 31 2026 14:35 utc | 50
*** @8”Jeffrey who?” Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein. In spite of their best efforts, we haven’t forgotten. ***
 
Wasn’t he the US President between Reagan and Biden?
 

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 31 2026 17:05 utc | 105

The really crazy thing is that Dems in America continue to idolize Obama and Biden, refusing to recognize that they too were/are bloodthirsty warmongers.
 
Posted by: paul | Aug 31 2026 13:38 utc | 25
Dems over 55 perhaps.  Everyone else seems keen to elect anyone that talks shit on Israel (without actually doing anything of course.  They are Imperialist genocidal Dems.)

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 31 2026 17:07 utc | 106

@ Ahenobarbus | Aug 31 2026 17:03 utc | 101

and when Netanyahu says ‘jump’ then Trump jumps. Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 10:21 utc | 126 Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 12:23 utc | 7Correct.  That sex tape must be a doozy!

Indeed. Netanyahu has Epstein tapes on Trump, and he keeps reminding Trump about it. Therefore Trump is losing his mind.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 17:07 utc | 107

Maybe it’s a jew thing? 
 
Posted by: Duck n cover | Aug 31 2026 13:46 utc | 28
That’s a little blunt, Duck.  Very likely a “Zio” thing.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 31 2026 17:08 utc | 108

Indeed. Netanyahu has Epstein tapes on Trump, and he keeps reminding Trump about it. Therefore Trump is losing his mind.
 
Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 17:07 utc | 107
That must be the key vetting criteria when the billionaire oligarchy decide who is allowed to run for US president: does Mossad have a sex tape on them?

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 31 2026 17:10 utc | 109

@Ahenobarbus | Aug 31 2026 17:10 utc | 109
 
Not just the US President.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 17:12 utc | 110

jonboinAR | Aug 31 2026 15:05 utc | 57
*** Hence, the constant tendency in “civilized” society, that is, society organized with distinct division of labor and ownership of resources, toward some kind of stratification that amounts to slavery. I know I’m speaking here sourly and dourly. I just kind of despair in these thoughts at organizing effectively or for long “the bottom up”. ***
 
There is indeed “bottoms-up” democracy.
But no matter how sore the public’s bottoms get, they remain deferential. 

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 31 2026 17:15 utc | 111

@ Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 16:58 utc | 97
 
thanks for this and your other posts… the western msm will not be telling us much of anything..

Posted by: james | Aug 31 2026 17:23 utc | 112

>It is obviously still Iran which has the total control over the Strait.Iran does not have control over the strait while Iran is being blockaded.In fact, Iran is suffering far more from the restricted shipping than the US is. The other Middle East states have other options to ship out oil besides the strait, and they widening those options the longer Iran continues clowning.Some of the Moon Tzu’s actually here think that Iran can economically just truck oil all the way to China. Sorry, no. So long as the strait is blockaded, Iran isn’t shipping oil, which means Iran has no export economy.
Posted by: catdog | Aug 31 2026 15:48 utc | 77
 
Have you seen the 10 year US Treasury yield? Have you driven by any gas stations and seen diesel prices?
 
If its facing any negative consequences whatsoever, why hasn’t the US just carpet bombed Iran into submission? That’s been their model for years.
 
 

Posted by: Centinel | Aug 31 2026 17:24 utc | 113

when does the shoe drop? when does the US leave?

Posted by: Scottindallas | Aug 31 2026 17:26 utc | 114

S Brennan | Aug 31 2026 15:34 utc | 72
*** Boomers said pretty the same thing.  The women’s movement said pretty much the same thing. The [insert-special-interest-group here] said pretty much the same thing…on and on.  No, at best, one segment of America will only “solve” their special interest.  For example, as soon as the draft of bourgeoisie and the near bourgeoisie ended so too did the antiwar movement…it came to a screeching halt…leaving skid marks.  Some of today’s most ardent war advocates were draft-dodgers or their friends/wives.***
 
The great success of divide-and-rule. 
Fragmentation.
Now enhanced via mass-immigration to provide even more splits for those who rule to exploit. 

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 31 2026 17:27 utc | 115

Cheers b appreciate your speedy summary. Good work.

Posted by: Jo | Aug 31 2026 17:32 utc | 116

Trump and netanyahu went into this war thinking they could force ‘regime change’ on Iran, and defeat it handily militarily. Instead the USA, israel and the West are in a far worse situation than before. But the utter arrogance of the US imperialists thinking that they can do whatever they want to the world, getting away with every type of intervention, coup d;etat, color revolution, CIA operation, war crime and crime against humanity over the past several decades, never having to suffer the consequences of their malevolent actions, the utter impunity afforded to the US goliath-beast over the last 70-80 years because of its economic, political and military might…..   damn, it’s all coming crashing down
 
 
see the 1:18 video at the second/third link
 
 
 
https://t.me/FotrosResistancee/23543#
Fotros Resistance 
 
🇺🇸🇯🇴| Low-res satelllite images confirm that an Iranian missile impacted inside the Muwaffaq al Salti Air Base. 
 
Looks like the missile hit an aircraft hangar.
Coords: 31.829263, 36.799926  H/t: MerruX
 
————————-
 
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/2094415430295146752
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺  @ejmalrai 
 
This should be printed in every single person’s memory. 
 
Said by an Israeli former Prime Minister and a PM candidate: ‘Worldwide, the name of Israel is linked to genocide and baby killers. ‘ Watch. 
 
Those who still defend Israel should be ashamed.
 
 
https://x.com/OunkaOnX/status/2094181632416854444
Ounka  @OunkaOnX 
 
Naftali Bennett: “If you ask an American student, ‘Israel – what comes to mind?’ They say genocide. You say Italy ‘pasta, spaghetti.’ You say Israel – ‘baby killers. And part of this is because we allowed Qatar to operate and build influence for 25 years” 
 
It’s not Qatar’s fault. It’s Israel’s actions. 
 
And no amount of deflecting will change the fact that the world is watching – and calling it what it is. 
https://x.com/clashreport/status/2094129996818264235/video/1

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 31 2026 17:33 utc | 117

Zionism is Nazism with Jewish Supremacist Characteristics
 
https://x.com/rosendo_joe/status/2094401513082732555
 
“Six year old Sila Abu Karim’s life changed in an instant after she was injured by shrapnel during a strike near her family home in Maghazi refugee camp in central Gaza. 
 
The shrapnel pierced her back severely damaging her vertebrae and leaving her with extreme spinal instability. She is now unable to stand or sit normally, living with her body bent and her head pressed against her abdomen.
 
Sila urgently needs to travel abroad for specialized medical treatment before her condition deteriorates further…”
 
 
Who Funds Israel’s Political Power in Washington? (& vid)
 
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/2094453019127566464
 
“A new searchable database, http://www.whofundedgenocide.com maps pro-Israel political funding in the US, including 11,168 named donors, 523 members of Congress, 165 candidates, and 105 recipient committees. The project says its data is supplied by FCC filings, methodology and source documents.”
 
Death to USrael & Empire – Victory to Iran & the Resistance – Free Palestine from the River to the Sea

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 31 2026 17:53 utc | 118

AFAIK: the US has a pronounced lack of mine clearing equipment.( Germany has the tools. But will only engage in a stand down environment. )They never bother with the munitions they leave lying around.
Posted by: MAKK | Aug 31 2026 1
 
The U.S. reportedly has four mine sweepers based out of Sasebo Japan.  How many are engaged in the Strait and how effective they are I have no idea.  The mine sweepers were supposed to be replaced by the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) but that does not seem to have worked out.

Posted by: Kentuckian | Aug 31 2026 17:55 utc | 119

I’m not convinced that those mines are not an Iranian Psy Op. The rumor suffices to trigger Lloyds Force Mejeur clause for insurance. IMO that may be one of the many things the Resistance will be laughing about when it’s over. 

Posted by: Ralph Conner | Aug 31 2026 17:55 utc | 120

Pundits have missed something about the Mecca alliance: neo-ottoman FM sympathizers have accepted to obey KSA (now allied to nuclear PAK) and let them wear the helm of spiritual power over the umma as a sign of unity and reconciliation. Qatar has been following the same course in the last year or so. Lessons of the Arab spring finally learned. 

Posted by: Tom | Aug 31 2026 18:22 utc | 121

Correct.  That sex child sacrifice tape must be a doozy!
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 31 2026 17:03 utc | 101

 
Fixed it for you 

Posted by: Amalek ( né exile ) | Aug 31 2026 18:28 utc | 122

“A new searchable database, http://www.whofundedgenocide.com maps pro-Israel political funding in the US, including 11,168 named donors, 523 members of Congress, 165 candidates, and 105 recipient committees. The project says its data is supplied by FCC filings, methodology and source documents.”

this will be a critical database for the eventual war crimes trials 

Posted by: Exile | Aug 31 2026 18:31 utc | 123

Snake
How much money do the poor give to the various USian religious congregations? Preachers have been making fortunes at least since the late 50s.

Posted by: Tom | Aug 31 2026 18:33 utc | 124

Excellent recap of the war on Iran by Suliaman Ahmed during his chat with Dan Davis. IMO, Iran is now doing the market manipulation. “Smart Mines” exist that don’t float at the surface but are emplaced or tethered to the sea floor and are activated remotely or made autonomous. Iran also has underwater drones that differ little from torpedoes but with longer range. As most Barflies know, to control Hormuz one must control Iran.  

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 31 2026 18:51 utc | 125

Iranintl is reporting the Axios version of what the Trump team is thinking
 

Trump weighs limited strikes on Iran to curb Hormuz attacks – Axios

 

US President Donald Trump and senior aides are considering limited strikes against Iran in the Strait of Hormuz aimed at preventing Tehran from rebuilding radar and missile capabilities used to attack ships, Axios reported, citing three US officials.
The plan was developed over the past week by US Central Command and backed by Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, but had not been approved by Trump before the latest exchange of fire with Iran, the report said.
One US official said the aim was to reduce the risk of Iranian attacks on oil tankers, US Navy ships and Air Force aircraft, describing the approach as an effort to “mow the lawn.”
Axios said CENTCOM had grown concerned that Iran was rebuilding radar, air-defense and anti-ship missile capabilities around the strait.
One recent incident involved an Iranian anti-aircraft missile fired toward a US F-35 providing cover for ships in the waterway, according to a US official cited by Axios. The missile did not come close enough to pose a threat but was viewed as evidence that Iran was trying to reconstitute its military capabilities.
CENTCOM told Hegseth, Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine and the White House that periodic strikes might be needed to allow dozens of oil tankers to move through the strait relatively safely each day, the report said.
Hegseth sent the plan to the White House several days ago, but officials said the administration had been leaning against approving the strikes last week to avoid further escalation with Iran.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 31 2026 19:05 utc | 126

The market is at a conveniently shaky stage. Maybe this is about a planned 20% skirtblow. Vix at 15, mucho calls, few puts, with Goldman vol guy praising upside risk reward amid seasonal stress. ​

Posted by: frito | Aug 31 2026 19:08 utc | 127

“mow the lawn” now where have we heard that before?

Posted by: Fred777 | Aug 31 2026 19:10 utc | 128

Arab media report US helicopters being relocated from Muwaffaq Salti Air Base.

https://t.me/presstv/204941
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 19:16 utc | 129

🇮🇷⚡️🇺🇸 IRGC Brigadier General Mohammad Reza Naqdi:
If Israelis who came from other countries want to save their lives, they should quickly return to their countries.
Otherwise, given the crimes they have committed, they will not be treated according to the concept of a “day of mercy.”
They should flee quickly.

https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/56146

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 19:17 utc | 130

From last night
….

 
🇮🇷❌️🇯🇴🇺🇸 Footage purporting to show a successful Iranian ballistic missile strike on Jordan’s Mwafaq al-Salti US Airbase.
Note the pulse drive action of the warhead. This is new!

https://t.me/intelslava/93573
 
 

⚡️🇮🇷🇺🇸🇯🇴At least 2 impacts in the US base in Jordan from the latest barrage

https://t.me/intelslava/93575
 
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 19:24 utc | 131

 
https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/2094366258305061068
Seyed Mohammad Marandi  @s_m_marandi 
 
There is no escape for Trump. The Strait of Hormuz will remain highly restricted until Trump abides by his commitments. If he escalates, it will result in a quick economic catastrophe. If he doesn’t, it will be a slow catastrophe.
 
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https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/56144#
⚡️🇺🇸 IRGC Brigadier General Mohammad Reza Naqdi: 
 
The Americans possess a hundred times more weapons than we do, and they have better missiles and drones, but they cannot use them effectively. 
 
We expected victory because we were certain and confident in God’s promise and His support. 
 
But we did not expect victory to come this easily.
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 31 2026 19:27 utc | 132

Do we know that on the  L island were real missile launchers not dummies to entrap?

Posted by: Jo | Aug 31 2026 19:28 utc | 133

@Jo | Aug 31 2026 19:28 utc | 133
 
I don’t think we know for sure. I have asked myself the same question.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 19:30 utc | 134

Jo | Aug 31 2026 19:28 utc | 133
 
Iran admitted casualties, including several deaths, so they were likely real.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 31 2026 19:31 utc | 135

Sure!

Posted by: John101 | Aug 31 2026 19:40 utc | 136

The US started accusing Iran of laying mines a while back.  IIRC, Iran denied it at first.
 
But then they apparently decided that the accusations were a great deterrent to attempts at running the Strait.
 
Recently we had the first ship reported to have actually hit a mine, and now two more, so maybe Iran did go out and lay some mines recently.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 31 2026 19:42 utc | 137

Iran does not admit any thing. Please, read in Parsi and try better, dear Murica.

Posted by: John101 | Aug 31 2026 19:43 utc | 138

Humor relief (Telegram not required to view):
 
https://t.me/EurasianChoice/66701
 
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 19:46 utc | 139

General Naqdi isn’t giving Iranians enough credit. Iran has better missile technology than the US. The US doesn’t even have hypersonic missiles.

Posted by: QuestionMarcus | Aug 31 2026 20:03 utc | 140

DW: Paul Craig Roberts: ‘US Strikes Iran’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@dialogueworks01/streams
 
“Trump signals imminent US strikes: ‘there will be a response.”
 
‘Let me cut to the chase. I think the Iranian leadership is making the same mistake Putin has made. The Iranians are fighting the proxy of their enemy, not their enemy itself, just as Putin is fighting the proxy of the Americans, not the Americans themselves.
 
In Ukraine – that’s a proxy for the United States, so the Americans happily have Putin at war with the Ukrainians. In Iran, the Israelis have the Iranians at war with the Americans. 
 
So it’s working for Netanyahu. I think it shows the power of Israel over the President and the Congress. Israel wants this conflict and they’re not going to let Trump out of it. The war continues for Israel’s purposes and yet Israel pays no cost…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 31 2026 20:11 utc | 141

RE: Bottom-up strategy
 
@xLemming | Aug 31 2026 16:28 utc | 87
Great list. Those are the basics at the individual level.
 
@GreatLakesObserver | Aug 31 2026 14:31 utc | 44
 
GLO: that was brilliant. “Are the parts of a tree organized? ”
New thinking about what an “organization” is, how form it, and how to operate it … is clearly helpful; what would be even more helpful  is if we had some functional examples we could observe, learn from and then replicate. 
 
“You can’t solve a problem with the same thinking that created the problem in the first place.”  – attributed to Einstein
 
So let’s get some new thinking. Come at this from an entirely different slant, and above all, stop playing the game according to the Big’s rules. Let’s make a new game.
 
For example: “Let’s ID 100 products that can be economically viable to make and sell at the local level … products that can be substituted for products made by the Bigs”. Rephrase that as: “turn the fire-hose of little people money back toward the little people, and away from the Bigs”
 
 
@snake | Aug 31 2026 15:16 utc | 64
 
Replies interleaved below with your orig message. 
 
Snake: I think there is competence I think. we can build anything we want if only we had access to the money.
Tom: There is competence, and yes, we little people can build anything. After all, we built whatever the Bigs have, right? Before I respond to “if we only had the money” … may I ask “what do we need to build, how much would it cost, and what benefits would it confer, and would the beneficiaries of what got built pay for it (like they already do for all the stuff the little people are already consuming)
 
Snake: Lack of coherency is due to the separation by the nation state territorial we rule you system.   
Tom: To some degree I agree, but I don’t think that’s the most significant obstacle
 
Snake: Lack of secure communications between the people of the bottom up class is I think the major attribute that explains the lack of collective intent
Tom: Secure comms are a pipe dream. Bigs can penetrate any secrecy the little people dream up, because the little people are rotten at keeping secrets.  Forget about secrecy; never gonna happen. Why not just do stuff, right out in the open, that advances the interests of little people? Redirect time, emotion, effort, capital from stuff that supports the Bigs to stuff that supports the little people? (see xLemming’s work above; it’s pretty good)
 
Snake: so maybe your points outline the barriers a bottom up society needs to attain and maintain true self determination.   
Tom: other posters did a great job of identifying the barriers. What I think we should do is identify the Wide Open Pathways.
 
Snake: From self determination all else follows.. (Tom: xLemming would agree).  How can programs be defined and implemented that address these barriers to self determination.. 
Tom: Pick a few key examples of “self determination” and then … go do that stuff. Then tell, or better yet, show others what and how you did it, and it benefited you (e.g. it was “worth it”).
 
Then try an experiment re: secrecy. Put that example you did up on your freakin’ FaceBook page, send a message to CIA and Deep State and Netanyahoo et. al. telling them about it. Invite them to F it up! Guess what? They won’t bother. “We don’t care about the handful of peanuts you little people trade among yourselves down on the street-corner. We care about the Major Graft stuff!”
 
They don’t care what the little people are doing. We are not relevant to them except to the extent we can be shorn (like a sheep) via the next war, scam, boondoggle, pump-n-dump, etc.
 
Snake: One thought comes to mind..the money needed to control the outcomes of many political races is in the pockets of the bottom up.  the political parties are in competition for that dollar with the bottom up.. and propaganda is their weapon.
 
Tom: Yes. All that media, war, propaganda, advertising, etc. is done to steer the public into doing what the predators want. xLemming is on to something: “figure out what you need, and go get it, and don’t pay too much attention to what the predators or the predator-controlled herd is doing”
 
Snake: I think this may be a weak spot which the bottom up might be able to take advantage of.  
Tom: It’s the secret sauce, Snake. The major advantage (as-yet vastly underutilized) of the Little Guys is there’s way more of us than there is of them. But we’re not well informed, we’re isolated, fearful etc. Each of those dis-aggregating forces can be overcome via a few conversations – face to face, or even remote-anonymous like we’re doing here. Talk, find a something to build that solves a common problem (high cost of food, energy, housing, education … all the rent-extraction taps draining the life out of the little people) … make a place to talk about building things (instead of endless bitching) and go make it happen. Quit the endless talk-bitch-blame cycle and go do something.  Build it, share it, party over it, etc.  
If there’s any more discussion on this subject, let’s take it to the general-purpose thread. B: sorry I diffused this  thread.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Aug 31 2026 20:11 utc | 142

i didnt sort of believe that mines could be laid in water using rocktes. ..i did a cursory check and it appears to be possible…but i still cant wrap my head around it intuitively. 
 
are the mines the size of cluster munitions and deployed in a similar fashion?  i thought marine mines were large.  how do they no detonate on impact w the water surface? if theyre not bomblet size, how big are they, the diameter of the fajr5 is ~3ft…does each rocket carry one mine?
if true, this capability is kind of impressive and creative. 
 
 

Posted by: papi longstockings | Aug 31 2026 20:35 utc | 143

John Gilberts @ 141:
 
PRC might not have noticed, that with Iran’s recent attacks on targets in Jordan, the Iranians are coming closer to Israel.  
 
He might not also have noticed that in June last year and in March this year, Iranian drones and missiles breached Iron Dome in Israel and caused considerable damage in that country. The major reason we in the West have not seen or heard much about the destruction caused, especially in Haifa, Tel Aviv and their surrounds, is that the Israeli govt has banned Israeli media from reporting on such damage, and Western media with “Middle Eastern correspondents” based in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv have gone along with the ban.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Aug 31 2026 20:36 utc | 144

John Gilberts @ 141:
 
PRC might not have noticed, that with Iran’s recent attacks on targets in Jordan, the Iranians are coming closer to Israel.  
 
He might not also have noticed that in June last year and in March this year, Iranian drones and missiles breached Iron Dome in Israel and caused considerable damage in that country. The major reason we in the West have not seen or heard much about the destruction caused, especially in Haifa, Tel Aviv and their surrounds, is that the Israeli govt has banned Israeli media from reporting on such damage, and Western media with “Middle Eastern correspondents” based in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv have gone along with the ban.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Aug 31 2026 20:37 utc | 145

Re comment @ 145: Sorry everyone, I didn’t mean to hit the Enter button so fast!

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Aug 31 2026 20:38 utc | 146

@ Refinnejenna | Aug 31 2026 20:36 utc | 144
 
pcr is an american warmonger and thinks like a warmonger… he will never figure out russia or iran.. end of story.. 

Posted by: james | Aug 31 2026 20:41 utc | 147

That must be the key vetting criteria when the billionaire oligarchy decide who is allowed to run for US president: does Mossad have a sex tape on them?
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 31 2026 17:10 utc | 109
>>>.  Not just the US President.
Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 17:12

 
In light of the above comments, :~
 
 

Abdul El-Sayed makes new plea ‘for forgiveness’ with Jewish Democrats

 
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2026/08/30/democrats-say-theyre-unified-for-november-amid-lingering-tension/91341869007/
 

Inside a downtown Lansing convention center, hundreds of people gathered at their party’s convention Aug. 29 to officially nominate members of the state’s Democratic ticket and celebrate candidate for governor Jocelyn Benson of Detroit and U.S. Senate hopeful Abdul El-Sayed of Ann Arbor.
 
Some prominent Democrats haven’t endorsed El-Sayed because of his connections to far-left online commentator Hasan Piker, who’s been a vocal critic of Israel.
 
Appearing before the party’s Jewish Caucus at the convention on Aug. 29 and then at a second event on Aug. 30, El-Sayed, a former Wayne County health official, apologized for saying “hurt people hurt people” in a statement he made after an attack on an Oakland County synagogue in March.
“I am asking for forgiveness and a moment of grace,” El-Sayed said at a Jewish Caucus gathering in Birmingham. “I made a mistake.”
 
Reporters weren’t allowed into the Jewish Caucus’s “Summer Simcha,” but El-Sayed’s campaign released a recording of his remarks, which showed the progressive Democrat was attempting to reach out to Jewish members of his party.
“I am here because I may be your next senator,” El-Sayed also said at the event. “And I care a lot more about serving well than simply winning.”
 
Trump has endorsed both James and Rogers, who labeled El-Sayed a “conman” on the day of the Democratic convention, citing the apology his opponent had issued.
After relying on his long-held antisemitic beliefs to win the primary, @AbdulElSayed is trying to con Michiganders into thinking his beliefs have changed,” Rogers said on X.
 
 
Lon Johnson, former chairman of the Michigan Democratic Party, expressed optimism that El-Sayed, who is Muslim, was attempting to fix disagreements he’s had with some Jewish members of the party.
“I’m seeking to bring this party together, and there’s a lot of people out there that are not feeling heard. But what Abdul just did this morning tells me he’s listening,” Johnson said of El-Sayed’s appearance before the Jewish Caucus at the convention.
 
 
State Sen. Jeremy Moss, D-Bloomfield Township, described the Aug. 29 convention as a “calm, peaceful, productive day.” Moss, who is Jewish, said El-Sayed’s apology to the Jewish Caucus about his statement on the synagogue attack was an appropriate and necessary move.
 
“Obviously, we’ve had a lot of conversations about the need to bring this coalition together,” said Moss, who is running for the seat of U.S. Rep. Haley Stevens, D-Birmingham. “I think that’s something that a lot of people in that room needed to hear.”
 
During the Aug. 30 gathering in Birmingham, El-Sayed said he was attempting to add “context” to the attack on Temple Israel, but he did it at the wrong time.
 
“For folks who felt like my comments were justifying of an attack of domestic terrorism, I did not intend it that,” El-Sayed said, according to the recording. “I hope that you’ll forgive me, and I’m sorry.”

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 31 2026 20:50 utc | 148

 
https://www.tasnimnews.ir/en/news/2026/08/31/3685139/over-1-000-israeli-forces-killed-in-war-with-iran-military-spokesman
Over 1,000 Israeli Forces Killed in War with Iran: Military Spokesman  
 
TEHRAN (Tasnim) – A senior spokesman for Iran’s Armed Forces said more than 1,000 Israeli military personnel were killed and thousands more wounded during the recent war with Iran, noting that hundreds of US troops were also killed and thousands injured. 
 
In an interview with DEFA Press about the recent US-Israeli war of aggression against Iran, Brigadier General Abolfazl Shekarchi described the US military as a “Hollywood and propaganda army” established to plunder the resources of Muslim countries. 
 
He said Iran’s greatest achievement was exposing the “Hollywood facade” of the US military and the Zionist regime, allowing the world to see how weak and demoralized the two forces are. 
 
He added that countries around the world, including some that host US military bases, have lost trust in Washington and concluded that a US unable to defend itself could not protect its allies. 
 
Regarding US casualties, Shekarchi said that, based on evidence and indications, the United States has lost hundreds of military personnel and thousands of its troops have been wounded in the third imposed war against Iran. 
 
The spokesman further stated that more than 1,000 Israeli military personnel have been killed and thousands wounded during the Zionist regime’s military aggression against Iran with the cooperation of the US military. 
 
Shekarchi denounced Washington and Tel Aviv for lying about their military casualties and censoring the actual figures. As an example, he said the US had disclosed the deaths of its troops in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq years after the deaths occurred and only subsequently handed their remains over to their families. 
 
Turning to the Strait of Hormuz, Shekarchi said the US president, his supporters and allies had come to be regarded as symbols of “evil and wickedness,” and issued a warning over any attempt to claim the strategic waterway. 
 
“Our response to the US president and leaders is that they can only dream that the Strait of Hormuz would be considered part of their territory,” he said. 
 
“We will not allow the presence of Americans in this region,” Shekarchi added, stressing that Iran is determined to expel US forces from West Asia. 
 
He also vowed that Iran would take revenge for martyred Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei, the students martyred at Shajareh Tayyebeh School in Minab, the martyrs in Lar, as well as all innocent Iranians killed in the conflict. 
 
“This matter may take sooner or later, but it will be carried out,” Shekarchi said.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 31 2026 20:54 utc | 149

Lessons of the Arab spring finally learned. 

Posted by: Tom | Aug 31 2026 18:22 utc | 121
 
The “arab spring” was a CIA op bullshit, so, what do you mean?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 31 2026 21:04 utc | 150

Iran War Live: Trump Says US Could Still ‘Smack’ Iran ‘To See What Happens’
 
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/8/31/iran-war-live-irgc-attacks-us-bases-in-jordan-after-us-bombs-larak-island
 
“US President Donald Trump says that the Strait of Hormuz is in ‘extremely good shape’, while Iran’s economy, military and leaders have been largely deteriorated, and adds that ‘it doesn’t mean we won’t smack them to see what happens…”
You might get smacked back harder.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 31 2026 21:09 utc | 151

I have seen no reference to iranian missiles capable of laying naval mines EXCEPT as mentioned by the US. And they would have an interest in prodcing disinformation. The fact is that mines are much moreeasily laid by small boatsrather than by expensive missiles. Iremainto beconvincedsince no other country in the world has this capability (it isn’t needed).

Posted by: Kaiama | Aug 31 2026 21:12 utc | 152

Off topic, sort of, but it seems to me that the level of denial and envy at China’s rise reaches the pathological. This latest column in the Atlantic, ever a reliable bastion of head-in-arse thinking, reinforces that belief:
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/2026/08/china-beijing-communist-xi-favorability/688454/
The most verbose kind of cope.
 

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 31 2026 21:12 utc | 153

That must be the key vetting criteria when the billionaire oligarchy decide who is allowed to run for US president: does Mossad have a sex tape on them?
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 31 2026 17:10 utc | 109
 
§§|_ Not just the US President.
Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 17:12 utc

 
In light of the above comments ^^^
 
>>>>>>>
 

Abdul El-Sayed makes new plea ‘for forgiveness’ with Jewish Democrats

 
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2026/08/30/democrats-say-theyre-unified-for-november-amid-lingering-tension/91341869007/
 

Inside a downtown Lansing convention center, hundreds of people gathered at their party’s convention Aug. 29 to officially nominate members of the state’s Democratic ticket and celebrate candidate for governor Jocelyn Benson of Detroit and U.S. Senate hopeful Abdul El-Sayed of Ann Arbor.
 
Some prominent Democrats haven’t endorsed El-Sayed because of his connections to far-left online commentator Hasan Piker, who’s been a vocal critic of Israel.
 
Appearing before the party’s Jewish Caucus at the convention on Aug. 29 and then at a second event on Aug. 30, El-Sayed, a former Wayne County health official, apologised for saying “hurt people hurt people”  in a statement he made after an attack on an Oakland County synagogue in March.
 
“I am asking for forgiveness and a moment of grace,” El-Sayed said at a Jewish Caucus gathering in Birmingham. “I made a mistake.
 
Reporters weren’t allowed into the Jewish Caucus’s “Summer Simcha,” but El-Sayed’s campaign released a recording of his remarks, which showed the progressive Democrat was attempting to reach out to Jewish members of his party.
“I am here because I may be your next senator,” El-Sayed also said at the event. “And I care a lot more about serving well than simply winning.”
 
Trump has endorsed both James and Rogers, who labeled El-Sayed a “conman” on the day of the Democratic convention, citing the apology his opponent had issued.
After relying on his long-held antisemitic beliefs to win the primary, @AbdulElSayed is trying to con Michiganders into thinking his beliefs have changed,” Rogers said on X.
 
 
Lon Johnson, former chairman of the Michigan Democratic Party, expressed optimism that El-Sayed, who is Muslim, was attempting to fix disagreements he’s had with some Jewish members of the party.
 
“I’m seeking to bring this party together, and there’s a lot of people out there that are not feeling heard. But what Abdul just did this morning tells me he’s listening,” Johnson said of El-Sayed’s appearance before the Jewish Caucus at the convention.
 
 
State Sen. Jeremy Moss, D-Bloomfield Township, described the Aug. 29 convention as a “calm, peaceful, productive day.” Moss, who is Jewish, said El-Sayed’s apology to the Jewish Caucus about his statement on the synagogue attack was an appropriate and necessary move.
 
“Obviously, we’ve had a lot of conversations about the need to bring this coalition together,” said Moss, who is running for the seat of U.S. Rep. Haley Stevens, D-Birmingham. “I think that’s something that a lot of people in that room needed to hear.”
 
During the Aug. 30 gathering in Birmingham, El-Sayed said he was attempting to add “context” to the attack on Temple Israel, but he did it at the wrong time.
 
“For folks who felt like my comments were justifying of an attack of domestic terrorism, I did not intend it that,” El-Sayed said, according to the recording. “I hope that you’ll forgive me, and I’m sorry.”

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 31 2026 21:15 utc | 154

Trump: we can smack them to see what happens…”
Iran:  Yep.   FA/FO

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 31 2026 21:19 utc | 155

Still no evidence Iran uses dumb sea mines. It is against their interest, they want control over straits, so they can use it, not to block it for everybody.What is more likely they used smart sea mines (self propelled) basically underwater drones to attack ships. These are tools for control and selective targeting.
Posted by: Abe | Aug 31 2026 15:10 utc | 59
 
Abe makes perfect sense  here.  I now think that that is what Iran did.
 
As for organizing the masses to go outside and march in the streets, didn’t we learn that that is useless?
 
The old effective organizers, the ones that got the ruling class to throw the working class some bones, had the slogan:
Educate, Agitate, Organize
In that order.
 
It seems obvious to me, from the squeals and plans of the rulers, that the internet is a very effective means that we proles have to educate the masses.
Instead of all information coming top down, beamed into each house or car, with the recipients having no way to ascertain its truth, or know how other plebes are responding, we now have a means of horizontal communication, far more effective than handing out leaflets on a corner.  Hence, the nostalgia for the good ol’ days that is occasionally expressed openly by the political class.  They don’t like us talking among ourselves, and they are determined to stop that.
 
That is why the likes of Obama, Schwab, and Von der Leyen are so deadset on censoring and banning people from the internet.
 
The latest is “Think of the children”, pushing their desired government-issued ID to get on the internet.   If they can push that through, their power will be enhanced, and ours will be lessened.
 
Obviously, governments that pushed the vaccine onto children, and teach children from toddlerhood that they might “be in the wrong body”, which requires drugs and surgery, have absolutely NO interest in protecting the children.   They prey upon children.
 
And that includes the Podesta class, which we are not allowed to reference.  We can scream about Epstein all we want, but if you mention Podesta, you are in trouble.
 
BUT.   Apparently, the reason that Trump won in 2016 was that the computer the NYPD seized from Weiner had a video depicting horrendous child torture and murder committed by Hillary and Huma, hidden in a file marked “Insurance”.   The cops that saw it were so horrified that they threatened to go public.  Instead, Trump was allowed to win, much to everyone’s surprise (including his), and the cops committed suicide shortly afterwards.
I am sure that Trump has no similar tape, no matter how many people on MoA confidently assert it to be so.   
If there was, it would have been released by now, instead of covered up, like the Huma one.   
That is how they roll.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 31 2026 21:25 utc | 156

Kaiama @151
yeah the idea seems hoakey. the mines have to have contact sensitive sensors to detonate, but the impact with the water moving at relatively high meters  per second and g forces dont trigger them? 
plus as you pointed out no one else uses rockets to lay marine mines..
so disinfo….but maybe i could be wrong and iranians got creative, the cost of their missiles is not the limiting factor…material sicence and sensors and software would be difficult. ..
 im inclined that its disinfo and i would be surprised and very impressed if iranians found a solution.  i would think russians and chinese would already use this method if it was viable. ..🤷‍♂️
 
 

Posted by: papi longstockings | Aug 31 2026 21:29 utc | 157

When did it become the norm for Americans to elect barking mad psychopathic thieves?Posted by: Bilejones | Aug 31 2026 13:21 utc | 20

since JFK was murdered 
Posted by: Amalek (né exile) | Aug 31 2026 13:26 utc | 21
 
Nay, since April 30th 1789, when the oligarch George Washington was sworn in as the first president of the united states and then, only six percent of the population was allowed to vote at all. We’ve been an oligarchy ever since. White men who owned no property weren’t fully allowed to vote until 1856 and black men didn’t get the right until 1870. 
 
https://theamericanleader.org/timeline-era/expanding-white-mens-right-to-vote-1787-1856/
 
I’d hardly call that a republic, nor a democracy and the patriots who fought in the revolutionary war were fully ripped off! That’s when the thieving began in earnest. 

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Aug 31 2026 21:32 utc | 158

@ 151 “I have seen no reference to iranian missiles capable of laying naval mines “
As said in above posts The FAJR-5 MLRS is fully capable of laying mines. (Link Below)
The mine is small, But it does not have to sink a ship. Iran does not want to sink a full oil tanker causing a disaster in the Gulf.
Merely exploding a mall mine against a ships hull. Not penetrating the inner tanks. Is more than enough to turn the ship around and disrupt shipping. Causing a hull inspection/repair work to be done. 
As for keeping mines from detonating when thy hit the sea? 
Simple. Just equip them with a water activated circuit that completes the connection to the detonator with a timed delay So they don’t explode on impact.
Just like children’s toys that light up when they are immersed in the bathtub.
 
https://www.armyrecognition.com/archives/archives-naval-defense/naval-news-navy-2025/breaking-news-iran-demonstrates-fajr-5-rocket-launcher-for-sea-mine-laying-threatening-global-maritime-security

Posted by: golddigger | Aug 31 2026 21:33 utc | 159

Listening to Nima on DW. He said that Saudi Arabia is asking the IMF for a loan.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD2GavY_Bt0

Posted by: arby | Aug 31 2026 21:33 utc | 160

The question that’s never asked:
When did it become the norm for Americans to elect barking mad psychopathic thieves?

Posted by: Bilejones | Aug 31 2026 21:34 utc | 161

osted by: arby | Aug 31 2026 21:33 utc | 159
 
 Imagine all the other Central Banks holding US treasuries seeing the Saudi’s asking the IMF for a loan. 
 
  Looks like saving in US treasuries for a rainy day may not be such a great idea.

Posted by: arby | Aug 31 2026 21:41 utc | 162

Regarding mines in SoH.
 
Why bother laying mines if the simple announcement make the passage already a risk? Any kinetic interference of shipping can be done bye rockets, drones, speedboats, helicopters or even artillery. 
 
The Iranians have a big tool kit at their disposal already. What comes to my mind when i hear tankers get hit, is that there are huge risk of catastropic oil spills involved. In front of my coast i would rather hit a ship from above not from underneath.  
 
Are modern navel mines able to breach the hull or even sink a super tanker? 
 

Posted by: El Lissitzky | Aug 31 2026 21:42 utc | 163

Breaking UKMTO: ‘Tanker Incident Involving Military Forces’ Reported Off Oman
 
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/2094534655550668824
 
“UK Maritime Trade Operations says it received a report form a tanker’s master of an incident involving the vessel and military forces in the Indian Ocean, off Oman.
 
UKMTO has not identified the tanker or military force involved, nor disclosed the nature of the encounter or whether anyone was injured or the vessel damaged…”
 

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 31 2026 21:42 utc | 164

golddigger @158

  • thank you for the insight and the link.  makes sense.

Posted by: papi longstockings | Aug 31 2026 21:44 utc | 165

Posted by: papi longstockings | Aug 31 2026 20:35 utc | 143
Naval mines can range in size from 100 lb contact mines to several thousand pounds.
 
i don’t believe in the mine clearance stories.
 The only ships we have with the ability are the LCS ships.
 There are only three in the area and this ability has never been tested under combat conditions. The LCS mine clearing ability has been questioned. 
 The older mine sweeping ships have been retired

Posted by: Archetypex | Aug 31 2026 21:49 utc | 166

 # golddigger |  158
 
Thank you for the link! Attacking tankers in front of your coast certainly should be done the smart way or from above. 

Posted by: El Lissitzky | Aug 31 2026 21:52 utc | 167

Posted by: Archetypex | Aug 31 2026 21:49 utc | 165
 
It’s very possible there never were any mines and Pentagram made it up to seem that they were clearing mines.
 
That kind of makes you wonder what else they are making up. How about almost everything?

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 31 2026 21:54 utc | 168

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 31 2026 21:15 utc | 153
Ugh. And he is a US citizen. Not that that matters. Mamdani knows what the Trump admin is doing and if he is not ready to risk ICE as mayor and stand up to Trump, then why run for mayor?
 
Cuz they are self promoting frauds who will say anything. Mamdani will always be Trump’s man, even as he “threatens” Bibi.
 
And 2 seconds of El Sayed’s “i am america” spiel makes me want America to take a baseball bat to his knees. Or cut off his SNAP so he can eat from a homeless-proof Detroit trashcan for a while. 
 
When the IRGC says, we didn’t know how easy it would be, will El Sayed or Mamdani ask, “where is all the USDOD money?” Hell no. Neither will anyone else who wants to live.
 
Every public figure in the US: covers Israel’s crimes, supports war with Russia, benefits from the DOD swindle (incl the spread of nuclear weapons) and at least knows about the Epstein type stuff going on and ignores it, if not involved.
 
But sure, Ossof and El Sayed and such, they will fix it.

Posted by: Duck n cover | Aug 31 2026 21:55 utc | 169

how are naval/marine mines delivered by missile/rocket?
whats the mechanism, step by step.
i bet the germans had this figured out already. (shahed136 is a german design)
 

Posted by: papi longstockings | Aug 31 2026 22:04 utc | 170

@158 golddigger

Faj5 carries 90 kg, which is little for a bottom mine (would need shallow water), and not much for a surface mine. I don’t see Iran releasing untethered surface mines (unless timed auto destruct maybe) because those would be a hazard to own shipping.

So I doubt the story of rocket mining.

Iran has other more capable mines that can be launched from land, programmed to avoid decoys or relocate. Others work at depth tethered and launchable from a small boat.

I suppose small floating contact mines fused to autodestruct after an hour could be launched by rocket, enough to turn a ship back, but it would be an unusual approach except maybe for limiting damage and colateral (spills for example) .

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 31 2026 22:12 utc | 171

JUST IN: 🇮🇷 New report reveals intact Iranian underground nuclear facility that was not targeted in US-Israeli strikes, Fox reports.

Posted by: Jo | Aug 31 2026 22:33 utc | 172

@ 166.  “Thank you for the link! Attacking tankers in front of your coast certainly should be done the smart way or from above.” 
Yes” The Smart Way”
Iran’s strategy is more about damaging ships than sinking them.
A Destroyer with a disabled radars is almost useless as a weapon.
A Carrier with damaged catapults or elevators is nothing more than a Cruise ship with non working plumbing and bad food. 
Also the damaged warship will require an escort. Pulling needed ships from their wartime duties to accompany the damaged ship to safe waters.  
Repairs are time consuming and expensive.
Death by 1000 cuts.
 

Posted by: golddigger | Aug 31 2026 22:35 utc | 173

see the 10-second video at the link. the helpless Giant
 
 
 
https://x.com/Pataramesh/status/2094552285837705221
Patarames  @Pataramesh 
 
Iran got the U.S. to a point where helicopters grounded for maintenance are sitting ducks… needing to be evacuated on trucks 
 
Even if they are 1000km away from Iran and protected by layers of air & missile defenses 
 
➡️ Probably many cases of grounded aircraft destroyed inside the many maintenance hangars hit 
 
Unable to disperse on their own power
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 31 2026 22:42 utc | 174

A little more on Iran’s capabilities.
A quick look at Iran’s “Totally Destroyed Navy”
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga-5CTcXn4Y

Posted by: golddigger | Aug 31 2026 22:50 utc | 175

US Resumes Bombing of Iran
 
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/08/31/nhjj-a31.html
 
“…On Wednesday, Trump posted to Truth Social an AI-generated image of himself amid smoke and warplanes, beside an image of the assassinated Khamenei, labeled ‘MISSION ACCOMPLISHED 2026’ and a photograph of George W Bush labeled ‘MISSION NOT ACCOMPLISHED 2001-2021’.
 
On NBC’s Meet the Press Sunday, Republican Senator Ted Cruz of Texas reiterated his calls for regime change. ‘What I’ve been urging is for President Trump and the Trump administration to arm the protesters, the people of Iran, arm the Kurds and let the protesters remove this regime from power.’
 
Defense Department records list 18 American troops dead and 758 wounded since February 28, The Intercept reported Tuesday; a fuller account the outlet published August 4 put the dead and wounded above 900.
 
The campaign is a siege of a country of 90 million people: a naval blockade backed by the threat of any bank, company or government that trades with Tehran. Its logic leads to Beijing. To seal off Iran’s remaining trade, much of which runs to China, Washington would have to wage financial war on a nuclear armed power.
 
The criticisms Democrats do make of Trump comes largely from the right, faulting him for failing to end the war on Warshington’s terms. The money for the ongoing war was appropriated by both parties. The economic siege of Iran is part of a widening campaign of imperialist war, including the escalation of the war against Russia…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 31 2026 22:53 utc | 176

Trump now says more than 100,000 Iranian protesters have been murdered by the regime.  This would be 42,000 more deaths than America had in 10 years of the Vietnam War. He just pulls preposterous BS out of the air.

Posted by: GMST | Aug 31 2026 22:59 utc | 177

when does the shoe drop? when does the US leave?
 
Posted by: Scottindallas | Aug 31 2026 17:26 utc | 114
 
Dont have a actual date. The us will leave the middle east starting about 8 months before they start the we will never leave spin cycle

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 31 2026 23:00 utc | 178

Trump administration is just stupidity and chaos. They are soooooo confused and off the path that America should be on. This is all due to the evil puppet masters hiding back in the shadows.
 

Posted by: aelfwed | Aug 31 2026 23:25 utc | 179

I’d hardly call that a republic, nor a democracy and the patriots who fought in the revolutionary war were fully ripped off! That’s when the thieving began in earnest. 
Posted by: aye, myself & me | Aug 31 2026 21:32 utc | 157
 
Well, the US was never set up as a democracy. In fact, the Founders distrusted democracy, and they limited government power. You should read the Federalist Papers. as they detail the rationale for the Constitution.
The House was supposed to be the weakest government institution since it was closest to the people, with Senators appointed by governors and voted on by state legislatures, as they represent state interests.
And no direct elections for President (Still true to this date), who could appoint federal judges. The “people” were supposed to have no input on three-quarters of the government. 

Posted by: James M. | Aug 31 2026 23:44 utc | 180

and when Netanyahu says ‘jump’ then Trump jumps. Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 10:21 utc | 126 Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 31 2026 12:23 utc | 7Correct.  That sex tape must be a doozy!
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 31 2026 17:03 utc | 101

 
With deepfakes, I doubt any sex tape can be kompromat anymore.
 
I think Trump’s cooperation has more to do with carrot (his Kushner family involved in numerous financial projects like Gaza or Fifa) and stick (threats to have family members indicted in numerous financial crimes, including petty ones like insider trading).
 
While his kids make tons of money, he makes a show of thicker stupidity and dementia (so that he doesn’t end up in jail).

Posted by: Asian Frog | Aug 31 2026 23:56 utc | 181

re: John Gilberts | Aug 31 2026 20:11 utc | 141
 
John you must be as senile as Paul Craig Roberts to bother quoting him here. Or do you have a perverse sense of humour. Better you devote your energies to protecting your country from trumpism instead of peddling PCR shit.

Posted by: tucenz | Sep 1 2026 0:03 utc | 182

So deluded is the Orange imbecile that he is now making AI fake videos on Truth Social to enforce his make believe Hollywood-like D grade movie world. While he has been doing this for some time to promote his massive yet vulnerable ego, he reaches new heights now in absurd and fanciful claims about the US’s position in this war that are shear folly. Counterfactual nonsense fed to useful idiots; AI slop as if it is real. 
 
If any American feels comfortable with this sort of insane leadership then they might as well be in Fentanyl dream world in Philadelphia’s Kensington neighborhood. 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nZaNc-DZA0

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Sep 1 2026 0:11 utc | 183

The Littoral Combat Ship has been plagued by design and other flaws since the programs beginnings.  In 2013, the Director of Operational Test and Evaluation (DOT&E) concluded that “LCS is not expected to be survivable in high-intensity combat.”  https://www.pogo.org/analyses/senate-questions-littoral-combat-ship-upgrades
 
Some of the early LCS models’ hulls actually split in two and were retired within a few years of launch..  Among the many functions the LCS program was supposed to fulfill was to take on the resupply at sea mission of ‘tenders’ which could resupply munitions and other stores at sea.  As early criticism of the program complained, and as recent blockade-related logistics problems have illustrated, the LCS program substantially failed this mission as well…[Martyanov would say “told ya!”]

Posted by: mjh | Sep 1 2026 0:15 utc | 184

‘I am asking for forgiveness and a moment of grace,’ El-Sayed said at a Jewish Caucus gathering in Birmingham. ‘I made a mistake.’

‘I hope that you’ll forgive me, and I’m sorry.’

State Sen. Jeremy Moss, who is Jewish, said El-Sayed’s apology to the Jewish Caucus about his statement on the synagogue attack was an appropriate and necessary move.

‘Obviously, we’ve had a lot of conversations about the need to bring this coalition together,’ said Moss, who is running for the seat of U.S. Rep. Haley Stevens, D-Birmingham.

‘I think that’s something that a lot of people in that room needed to hear.’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNlOl12yGqQ

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Sep 1 2026 0:21 utc | 185

@153 Melaleuca
 
As I predicted, the Dem-aligned DSA candidates are completely beholden to their Jewish donors and, by extension, their hidden support of Israel. 
 
Oh, you wanted Mamdani to confront Bibi? Ha! Fooled you, idiot! Our campaign tactic of using Israel as a punching bag works everytime.
 
“Now, let’s get them antisemites, eh, blue states! They look like Trumpericans.”

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 1 2026 0:26 utc | 186

Ben-Gvir Shares AI Concentration Camp Ad of Palestinian Prisoners (& vid)
 
https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/2094273340374696126
 
“…Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir has shared a disturbing concentration camp video depicting Palestinians being placed into a machine on a conveyor belt, entering overweight and emerging thin, distressed and crying…”
 
Trump Indicates Support For Christian-Backed Plan To Help Canadian Jews Escape Antisemitism
 
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-indicates-support-christian-backed-plan-help-canadian-jews-escape-antisemitism
 
“National Association of Christian Lawmakers president warns of ‘disproportionate’ antisemitic incidents in Canada.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 1 2026 0:29 utc | 187

Missiles and Drones
My break my bones
But words will never harm me========================Torpedos and mines
May break my spine
But memes will never harm me

Posted by: metamars | Sep 1 2026 0:35 utc | 188

Still no response from CENTCOM. 24 hours and counting. 
 
When are we going to call Trump’s bluster BS?

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 1 2026 0:36 utc | 189

Mahmood OD: ‘Iran Attacks With 10 x Force’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@Mahmood_OD/streams
 
“Iran targets US F-35|Trump vows hard response.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 1 2026 0:37 utc | 190

@ golddigger 175
 
Same reason for going after maintenance hangers. 
 
All US planes require extensive maintenance due age, wear and tear.

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 1 2026 0:44 utc | 191

@198 Suresh

Last I read it had been walked back some.

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 1 2026 0:46 utc | 192

For example, as soon as the draft of bourgeoisie and the near bourgeoisie ended so too did the antiwar movement…it came to a               ascreeching halt…leaving skid marks.  Some of today’s most ardent war advocates were draft-dodgers or their friends/wives.
S Brennan  72
No denying the second sentence here, c.f. President Bonespurs or former President Joe Asthma.
But the first sentence is inaccurate. The draft ended essentially concurrently with the Paris Accords in 1973. The last major national demonstrations against the war in the US were in April/May of 1971, although smaller actions took place until the war ended. It was in 1971 that student deferments were eliminated, thus removing one of the main ways those who could afford to go to college avoided military service during the war. So actually it was when it became more difficult for the “bourgeoisie and the near bourgeoisie” to avoid the draft that the movement declined.
Other explanations, which are not mutually exclusive, include COINTELPRO and the havoc it wreaked in the movements it targeted, the splintering of SDS, the increasing militancy of  the protests and the increasingly heavy response, which caused less militant people to stay away, Nixon’s Vietnamization of the war, which reduced troop numbers by about 70% from 1968 to 1971. There are undoubtedly other factors. A better argument, btw, is that the expansion of the draft from 1965-68 catalyzed the rapid growth of the antiwar movement, but here, too, there were multiple factors at work.

Posted by: D D’illitanti | Sep 1 2026 0:46 utc | 193

GeorgeWendell | Sep 1 2026 0:11 utc | 189
 
Yeah, like the soldier in the mess hall with a massive tray of food with at least 6 fingers on his right hand holding a burger. The USN robbed its payroll to cover other costs because it ran out of money. The only thing honest coming from Trump is his projection.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 1 2026 0:47 utc | 194

meanwhile, back at the Ranch
 
see the photo at the first/second link. D., D., to the IDF
 
 
 
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/2094491794285158481
MenchOsint  @MenchOsint 
 
Israel continues to kill children.
 
 
https://x.com/roqchams/status/2094473590091497641
roqayah chamseddine  @roqchams 
 
The child killed by an Israeli cluster munition in Haboush, south Lebanon, has been identified as Muhammad Ali Ibrahim
 
———————-
 
https://t.me/intelslava/93651#
Intel Slava 
 
🇮🇷⚡️ — A U.S. official told Axios that, in recent days, an Iranian surface-to-air missile was launched at a U.S. F-35 multirole fighter providing air cover for ships in the Strait of Hormuz.
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 1 2026 1:26 utc | 195

DJT: ‘If I Weren’t President, Israel Would Be Gone. There Would Be No Israel’ (& vid)
 
https://x.com/AliAbunimah/status/2094236800793383091
 
“Israel’ first and only.”
 
‘Land of the free and the home of the brave’?

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 1 2026 1:47 utc | 196

 
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/2094550803067568638
MenchOsint  @MenchOsint 
 
Quite surprising the U.S. didn’t attack again tonight. 
 
Especially since U.S. Fighter jets and Apache helicopters (confirmed to me by a source) were active at the moment IRGC managed to stop/strike this Saudi Oil Tanker “SIDR”. 
 
Fear of falling into uncontrolled escalation ? 🌮
 
————————-
 
https://x.com/tiberiusfiles/status/2094490720992465014
Tiberius  @tiberiusfiles 
 
I should be happy at the prospect of a Trump the insecure wrathful clown losing some power except we all know the Dems will do sweet fuck all to adequately rise to the opportunity
 
 
https://x.com/Polymarket/status/2094456589281280495
Polymarket  @Polymarket 
 
BREAKING: Democrats are now projected to sweep the 2026 midterms, taking both the Senate & House.
51% chance.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 1 2026 2:07 utc | 197

You are so silly for presuming the US actually wants to open the Gulf. It’s about the Missile-Oil Swing Price Optionality: https://aaronlee.substack.com/p/missile-oil-swing-price-optionality
 
Posted by: AL | Sep 1 2026 1:10 utc | 205
Problem solved!  
Thanks for coming everyone.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 1 2026 2:07 utc | 198

BREAKING: Democrats are now projected to sweep the 2026 midterms, taking both the Senate & House.
51% chance.
 
Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 1 2026 2:07 utc | 211
They’ll of course do the same thing while screaming “racist sexist homophobic” at anyone who disagrees.  
Seriously though, what are they going to do differently?  Cut a losing deal with Iran over Israel’s objection?  I’m sure Mossad has a library of sex tapes.  They can always just Charlie Kirk anyone they can’t blackmail.  You think the Dems don’t know that by now?  And these DSA Muppets?  They’re big talkers for fun and profit.  They won’t do anything to seriously oppose Israeli demands.  And they love Capitalism so the ruling class that brought you all this madness stays. 
Oh, and then there’s Russia.  They’d probably gleefully provoke a nuclear war just to spite Putin.
In the end, you are fucked with either of the Imperialist genocidal parties.  No voting our way out, folks.  There is no fucking democracy in the US.  It can return, but only after a thorough going social revolution that takes out the entire ruling class and all their flunkies.  
That’s where we are at.  These are revolutionary times, like it or not.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 1 2026 2:18 utc | 199

@211
 
Democrats holding both houses impeached Trump for withholding a paltry billion bucks from arming up Kiev!  That billion was part of unaudited tens of billions in “black” money!
 
With new congress, US is likely to go full military mobilization for the “self determination” of fictitious democrats in Iran, just like Saigon’s generals in 1965.
 
The difference between GOP AIPAC tools and Democrat AIPAC tools is faux ideology about human rights!

Posted by: paddy | Sep 1 2026 2:19 utc | 200

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