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August 18, 2026
The War Hits Back – Record Bond Yields And Diesel Spreads

Last week Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent promised more severe Iran sanctions:

“Watch this ⁠space for more announcements ​coming next week because we ​are going to apply measures like have never been seen in ​the history of economic ​isolation on a country,” Bessent said in ‌an ⁠interview on on Newsmax’s “Rob Schmitt Tonight” program.

The ‘next week’ is here but no new measures have been announced.

Rumors has it that the U.S. would apply secondary sanctions on anyone buying Iranian oil. China would have been the prime target. But the Chinese have the means to retaliate. Additionally Trump is hoping for a visit by President Xi next month which, the Chinese probably let know, is unlikely to happen if he were to introduce new sanctions.

Bessent may also be busy with other problems.

Over the last six months crude future prices were obviously manipulated. The large physical deficit on the market due to the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz should have led to much higher oil prices. But talked down by the administration the prices hardly budged.

Crude prices are still too low but product prices, diesel and jet fuel, are reaching new heights. The ‘crack price’ – i.e. the difference between raw crude oil and diesel/heating oil – has reached an unprecedented spread of more than $100.

The average price of diesel in the U.S. is now at $5.47/gal.

As diesel is the main cost for transportation its high price will soon leak into all other products. It is a main source of inflation.

There is also this tiny issue Bessent will have to (but lacks the means to) tackle:

Global bond yields hit multi-decade highs as governments pay the price for U.S.-Iran stalemate

A global sell-off of government bonds gripped markets Tuesday morning, sending borrowing costs to multi-decade highs, as hopes for an end to hostilities it the Middle East rapidly faded.

At 7:38 a.m. ET, yields on U.S. 30-year Treasurys were up almost 3 basis points to 5.335%, the highest level since 2002.

The record U.S. budget deficits, plus the enormous debt demand due to the AI bubble, are simply too much for the bond market.

Any rise in bond yields will require more interest payments for government debt which will lead to higher deficits. This can become a vicious circle. But under Donald Trump the Federal Reserve, which could raise interest rate to counter inflation pressure, is unwilling to act.

The bond market will thus expect a higher long term inflation and will demand higher yields for future debt.

Economically Trump is on his way to run the States into a wall.

Comments

thanks b…. finance is so central to everything that is going on at present.. always has been…
 
maybe bessent accidentally sanctions the us ships with all the usa armed forces??? they appear to have been sanctioned, lol.. 

Posted by: james | Aug 18 2026 17:18 utc | 1

The US, and the EU as well, is heading for the perfect storm of debt and out of control inflation…and I doubt whether either one will weather that storm intact…

Posted by: pyrrhus | Aug 18 2026 17:27 utc | 2

include the fees, assume a 10 year bond, tell how and where to buy it.. 
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The cash required to purchase a US treasury at 6.5% yield would be  _____? 
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The cash required to purchase a US treasury at 7.0% yield would be ______?  
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The cash required to purchase a US treasury at 7.5% yield would be______?  
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The cash required to purchase a US treasury at 8.0% yield would be______?  
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Posted by: snake | Aug 18 2026 17:33 utc | 3

Maybe it would be best for the people in the USA to open up to the world and develop more into a parlamentary republic. So that Markus Rubio, for example, could be foreign minister and chief of the new liberal party in a coalition with the new republicans and there would be the benefits of political debate to overcome wartime self-destruction tendencies.

Posted by: Haus Habakuk | Aug 18 2026 17:34 utc | 4

The chatter I’ve seen repeated is that the equity markets won’t break until the 10Y hits 7%.
 
We don’t have long to wait to test this hypothesis.
 

Posted by: too scents | Aug 18 2026 17:39 utc | 5

US shocks the crude futures market, particularly WTI by recklessly drawing from it Strategic Petroleum Reserves, both Biden and Trump push down crude futures.
 
As b says outside U.S. and especially the Pacific buyers of GCC crude prices to input to refineries are well up!  US is exporting record diesel to compensate, this pushes US diesel prices up, but limits rise in Asia.
 
The unknown is how far the U.S. will deplete reserves and what happens when reserves depleted and diesel price rise higher in U.S. and diesel short in Asia.
 
Could be 5 weeks could be just after U.S. mid terms.
 
I see Iran holding out long beyond either end date..

Posted by: paddy | Aug 18 2026 17:41 utc | 6

What happens to US mortgage rate……?
 
US new house starts are down year on year…

Posted by: paddy | Aug 18 2026 17:43 utc | 7

Re: Mortgage Rates ?
 
a 30 year mortgage interest rate  will be priced at 1.50% to 2.0% above the interest on the 30 year treasury. 

Posted by: Exile | Aug 18 2026 17:59 utc | 8

First Posted in late 2022, updated: 
 
Interest cost of federal debt as percentage of federal revenues:
 
Actual
~2% 2019
~9% 2021
~18% 2024
~24% 2025 (3.3% int.)
My Estimate
~30% 2026 (3.6% int.)
~32% 2027 (3.9% int.)
 
If my estimates for 2026 and 2027 are correct, then the Federal Gov‘t will face some sort of insolvency crisis in early(?) 2027.
 
Watch 10 year treasury interest rate: if stays above 4% then bond market agrees with my prediction of an insolvency crisis; if 10 year drops below 3% then I am wrong. TBD

Posted by: Exile | Aug 18 2026 18:02 utc | 9

In the EU they are pushing for 40 or even 50 year mortgage loans, which is an indication of falling real estate trade volumes and buyers disappearing. Anything for artificial respiration.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 18 2026 18:07 utc | 10

Scott Bessent wears Meta pervert glasses to record crack spreads.

Posted by: norecovery | Aug 18 2026 18:11 utc | 11

Thanks for the posting b…follow the money
 
too scents made a good point on another thread that the AI bubble and US Treasuries are fighting for the same suckers.
 
 
And none are talking about the trillions of derivatives with their Superior Position that will sweep in and gobble up all when the music stops.
 
 
The shit show continues until it doesn’t and that doesn’t mean things start smelling like roses again when that happens…the stench may get worse for a bit, eh?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 18 2026 18:17 utc | 12

Posted by: snake | Aug 18 2026 17:33 utc | 3

The answer to your questions requires you to provide the tenor of the bond.

Posted by: Mazatlan | Aug 18 2026 18:20 utc | 13

I’ll beg to differ b, Trump is leading the economy over the cliff, there ain’t no wall there. But one must always remember that Blinken/Biden confiscating Russia’s assets set this all in motion. Bessent and Trump are perfect in making sure that destruction happens.                        Now just imagine what it will be like when the Yuan goes 1-1 v the dollar let alone the Ruble doing that

Posted by: Ggersh | Aug 18 2026 18:24 utc | 14

Buyers of USTs are stepping back when the US needs them the most.
-Central banks are pivoting to gold
– Bond funds are moving into corporate bonds
Meanwhile, the US needs to fund massive deficits.
The more buyers move away from USTs, the higher yields have to go to attract demand…
And the more pressure there will be on the Fed to step in and print.

 
https://x.com/ekwufinance/status/2089774104463220847
 
Funland paying the price:
 

BREAKING NEWS
 
An explosion occurred at a Stora Enso plant in Finland near the Russian border.
 
The explosion occurred around 2:00 a.m. at a Stora Enso plant located a few kilometers from the Russian border. As a result, approximately 50 cubic meters of pulp cooking byproduct spilled onto the plant, Yle reports. According to Iltalehti, a technical malfunction may have been the cause: a sudden increase in pressure in a tall oil tank caused its wall to collapse.

 
 

https://x.com/aleksthgrt/status/2089724647688270106

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 18 2026 18:27 utc | 15

On the other end, the stock markets are all up massively. the SPR drain is MUCH slower than a few weeks ago, and the jobless rate is holding steady.  The US economy is doing better than the rest of the planet.

Posted by: bored | Aug 18 2026 18:35 utc | 16

“thanks b…. finance is so central to everything that is going on at present.. always has been…”Which is why the host here shouldn’t discuss it because he has no idea what he’s talking about.  Bond bull market ended in 2020, should have ended in 2008.  If our host here understood what was going on, he would have had a much different take on 2020……..

Posted by: Mr. House | Aug 18 2026 18:41 utc | 17

Regarding the stock market, what happens to all those stocks that are actually companies owning factories, machines, equipment but the currency they are denominated in collapses?
 
It’s a paradox. If the underlying currency collapses but these companies with their production and machines have real value. So the stock just goes to the moon to compensate falling currency purchasing power?

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 18 2026 18:41 utc | 18

“Re: Mortgage Rates ? a 30 year mortgage interest rate  will be priced at 1.50% to 2.0% above the interest on the 30 year treasury.”its the ten year.

Posted by: Mr. House | Aug 18 2026 18:42 utc | 19

The US economy is doing better than the rest of the planet.
 
Posted by: bored | Aug 18 2026 18:35 utc | 16
 

 
Is it indeed?  Why are spreads widening?
 

Posted by: too scents | Aug 18 2026 18:43 utc | 20

@16,
 
No US SPR draw has not slowed since Trump decided to take 170 mbbl and bring it down to 240 mbbl.
 
EIA charts and data are accessible, SPR is now around 50 mbbl to get to Trump authorizing more dumping.

Posted by: paddy | Aug 18 2026 18:51 utc | 21

Traditionally the stock market crashes in October.  Gerald Celente is predicting the end of September or early October.  And a crash will break confidence in the entire system.
 
I find it hard to believe something as manipulated as the NYSE can crash at all, unless someone wants it to crash.  If a crash breaks confidence in the Ponzi then I expect they’ll do everything they can to prevent such a crash.

Posted by: EoinW | Aug 18 2026 18:52 utc | 22

No US SPR draw has not slowed since Trump decided to take 170 mbbl and bring it down to 240 mbbl. EIA charts and data are accessible, SPR is now around 50 mbbl to get to Trump authorizing more dumping.
Posted by: paddy | Aug 18 2026 18:51 utc | 21

Oh but it is.  You can see it in the week to week on the SPR levels site.  Also here is CNN indirectly confirming :
Iran is losing control of the Strait of Hormuz | CNN Business
 

Posted by: bored | Aug 18 2026 18:59 utc | 23

machines have real value. 
 
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 18 2026 18:41 utc | 18
 

 
The value of machinery is not its replacement cost, rather it is the Present Value of its realizable future production.
 
The common scenario is that rising interest rates raise production costs, cause demand destruction and reduce production profitability.  Unprofitable machinery is idled and idle machinery is a liability.
 
Capitalism is a harsh master.
 

Posted by: too scents | Aug 18 2026 19:02 utc | 24

United Wholesale Mortgage, a large US mortgage company made a huge loss and is on the verge of collapse. Could be a potential black swan, or at least it could be coming from this sector.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 18 2026 19:11 utc | 25

“Economically Trump is on his way to run the States into a wall.”
Well what do you expect if you elect a President who’s business has gone bankrupt 6 times 😉

Posted by: Vortex | Aug 18 2026 19:12 utc | 26

Bored #23 – so you trust the CNN business reporter who is relying on the US military and energy sec for his news sources that the Strait traffic is back to near normal, eh? That is good to know. 
Most third party reporters are noting far below normal traffic through the strait on any route … and a collapsing strategic reserve. I guess we’ll know soon … 

Posted by: Caliman | Aug 18 2026 19:16 utc | 27

In California, diesel average price today is $6.9679 with the all-time high set earlier this year on 9 April at $7.7469. A comparison with New York is educational with diesel today at $5.623. SPR drawdown accelerated over the previous recoding week, while product levels remain essentially constant. Outlaw US Empire oil and product exports have remained mostly steady after an uptick at the war’s outset. Total imports have recently risen about 2 million bbls/day over the last 30 days. 
 
The talk has again turned to the possibility of nuke use. The Wilkerson/Nima chat closely focused on that topic and more.  The Empire’s dire financial condition was also discussed.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 18 2026 19:20 utc | 28

The USA should ban luxury imports and subsidise food and fuel. Raising interest rates won’t work.
Effect of interest rates mainstream economists also get wrong. Raising interest rates is supposed to encourage saving and discourage lending. The common claim:
“when we raise Bank Rate, banks will usually increase how much they charge on loans and the interest they offer on savings. This tends to discourage businesses from taking out loans to finance investment, and to encourage people to save rather than spend.”
Overall if loans go down, financial savings must go down by exactly the same amount. If you want the stock of bank loans to come down, while the stock of bank deposits goes up, then, unfortunately, reality won’t let you do that. As MMT shows the cost of credit is incorporated into the cost of all goods and services. The higher the interest rate, the higher the price.
“Any rise in bond yields will require more interest payments for government debt which will lead to higher deficits. This can become a vicious circle.”
Think this through logically …Leads to an interest price spiral. Rates should be kept zero permanently!
https://new-wayland.com/blog/interest-price-spiral/
 

Posted by: AntiNeolib | Aug 18 2026 19:25 utc | 29

Comparing apples with Oranges…
 
The bond market will thus expect a higher long term inflation and will demand higher yields for future debt.
 
Yes, if you are in the Eurozone.
 
No, if you are not.
 
They can demand  all they want but they’ll accept what they are given. See Japan for details who offered negative and zero rates for over 20 years and there was nothing the US rules based order could,so about it.
 
Because Japan sets the rate and bond vigilantes don’t exist. The US is exactly the same.
 
Plus the selling of treasuries is a reserve drain operation NOT a funding operation.
 
The debt issued by any one of the 20 Member States of the Eurozone is not credit risk free because those governments use what is effectively a foreign currency.
If such a government wants to spend more than their tax revenue then they must gain the extra euros from the private bond markets, which may then demand higher yields as the risk increases.
In the situation where a Eurozone Member State is enduring mass unemployment and declining tax revenue, the situation becomes complex.
While there are no real resource constraints in this situation, the financial constraints persist.
As the automatic stabilisers increase the fiscal deficit (lower activity reduces tax revenue and increases welfare spending automatically), the nation must increasingly access funds from private investors.
Given the credit risk attached to such debt, the bond markets will require higher yields on newly issued debt as the governments capacity to raise taxes to repay the outstanding debt obligations becomes impaired when there is high unemployment.
And, perversely, the higher the yields the lower the ability to repay and the higher the default risk, as it soon spirals into default with no funding at any price.
So even though there is mass unemployment and chaos, the bond markets might refuse to fund such a government at sustainable yields because of fear of debt default.
This is the situation that occurred in 2010 and 2012 in the Eurozone crisis as yields skyrocketed on the debt of various nations (for example, Italy and Greece).
It was only the intervention of the ECB (the currency issuer) guaranteeing that all national government debts would be repaid at maturity that saved all of the Euro nations from insolvency.
 
In the US however…
 
Government debt doesn’t fund anything.
It is just an unnecessary operational convention that is a hangover from the fixed exchange rate era.
 
Moreover, the continuing issuance of public debt for most governments (those that issue their own currencies) is in one sense political – in that it allows the conservatives to scream about the burdens on their grand kids, which is a short hand way of constraining government spending on welfare other than that that accrues in the form of corporate welfare – and in another sense, it provides the kids in the financial markets with a play thing to pursue their speculative greed – corporate welfare again.
 
The irony is  by describing a perfectly recognisable real-resource shock. War in the Gulf disrupts hydrocarbons, shipping routes and fertiliser supplies. Energy prices rise. Industrial costs rise. Supply chains tighten. Inflation follows.
This is not mysterious. Nor is it primarily financial.
You cannot solve an oil shock by reassuring bond traders. You cannot repair damaged infrastructure through fiscal austerity. If inflation emerges because physical energy supplies are disrupted, then the constraint is material and logistical before it is monetary.
But establishment commentary almost always performs the same manoeuvre. Real economic disruption is immediately reframed as a morality play about government borrowing.
Bond yields rise and suddenly the old liturgy resumes: markets are alarmed, Labour has “lurched Left”, investors are “calling time”, and uS risks “another 1976”.
One senses less analysis here than institutional reflex.
 
Because the language of “markets calling time” is ultimately about discipline. It narrows democratic possibility by presenting contingent institutional arrangements as immutable laws of economics. It tells voters that public priorities must always remain subordinate to financial sentiment.
And after thirty years of this argument, the results are difficult to celebrate.
US systematically underinvested in infrastructure, housing, transport, energy resilience and productive capacity while obsessing over fiscal optics and debt ratios. Public services were squeezed in the name of “credibility”. Monetary policy inflated asset markets while productive investment stagnated.
Now genuine supply shocks arrive and the same commentariat offers the same prescription it always has: reassure markets, cut spending, restore confidence.
The strange melancholy  is that it belongs intellectually to a world that no longer exists. Its assumptions were formed in the dying years of Bretton Woods and preserved through decades of City orthodoxy. The language remains confident, but it increasingly feels like ritual repetition rather than explanation.
US left the monetary world of 1976 a long time ago.
Much of its economic journalism never did.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Andrew | Aug 18 2026 19:26 utc | 30

 
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/2089793810238685673
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺  @ejmalrai 
 
When you are shameless, contemptuous of international law and morally bankrupt, you boast of disgrace as though it were an achievement.
 
 
https://x.com/SecRubio/status/2089773178771964120
Secretary Marco Rubio  @SecRubio 
Last month, I launched a diplomatic campaign to dismantle the ICC’s threat to our national sovereignty. The Trump Administration is sanctioning ICC President Tomoko Akane and Senior Trial Lawyer Abdoulaye Seye in our unwavering mission to protect Americans from this sham of a court. In honor of our Declaration of Independence, Americans will never be transported beyond seas to be tried for pretend offenses.
 
————————–
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edcdhNO2GA4
🔴 LEAKED: US Plans Nuclear Strikes AGAINST IRAN | Live + Members & Subscribers Q/AMahmood OD | محمود عودة  Mahmood OD | محمود عودة 218K subscribers
 
“……That country that committed and still commits a genocide and plans to ethnically cleanse populations in Gaza and in South Lebanon is still supported. No one did anything strong enough to prevent a genocide. Some actions were taken to try and reduce the intensity of it during the peak of the genocide in Gaza. that didn’t really prevent it from happening despite the fact that there are many countries with capabilities to do so. Why am I saying this? It’s because they normalized mass murder. 
 
And if they normalized mass murder, genocide, infanticide, blowing up children, pregnant women, incubators, hospitals, roads, tents, schools, mosques, churches, then what else is left? The damage that has taken place in Gaza is the equivalent of approximately six nuclear bombs, the size that the United States landed on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which leads us to the other point. We’re talking about the United States of America, a country, the only country in the world that used nuclear bombs against the civilian population. killing hundreds of thousands and causing generational damage to millions of people. Some of the administration mouthpieces are talking about it now and we will get to that as well as if it was the final option to force Japan to surrender…..”
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 18 2026 19:36 utc | 31

“But talked down by the administration the prices hardly budged.”
I think the key is not so much Trump’s efforts to manipulate the markets with strategically timed bullshit about ceasefires and deals, but who is supposedly believing this blowhard’s transparent lies re the conflict.  Nearly all the big finance houses are militantly Zio.  They don’t believe Trump’s bullshit.  That’s just to cover their extremely dangerous oil market manipulation on behalf of satanic Israel.  So it’s not Trump’s see-through bullshiting, it’s who controls the commanding heights of the supposedly objective market in the West. 
Earth to market oriented barflies: there is no investing your way out of this crisis if you’re a wage slave or even a petty bourgeois.  It’s degenerated to a fucking casino and the Zio house always wins.  
That said, I am so glad to see the economic consequences coming home to roost.  Yes, I am aware that most wage slaves will be forced to bare the burden of the collapse, but what price to rein in the Zio Imperialist genocidal baby killers and pedos?  If giving my life would end in the destruction of Zio Imperialism, I and millions of others would gladly do so.
The world will simply become more and more horrid and anti human the longer Zio Imperialism remains in power.  
A market collapse will cement Iran’s (currently the only sword against Israel!) victory over Zio Imperialism and bolster it’s non Imperialist allies.  
With the market jitters, the news had suddenly become interesting again.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 18 2026 19:37 utc | 32

Meanwhile back at the ranch,
 
Russia’s Lavrov says Britain risks being seen as party to Ukraine war | Reuters

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 18 2026 19:41 utc | 33

The bond market narrative exists for one purpose: to block political change.
Any material change. From any party. In any way.
 
Why the US rules based order created it, advertised it marketed it and then sold the framing and narratives like an old pair of shoes.
 
Of course why the Eurozone was,set up the way it was.
 
Retaining the illusion requires three framing tricks.
 
First, the long-bond blindspot :
 
Any proposed government policy raises uncertainty about the future path of the Bank Rate. Investors respond by selling longer-dated bonds, which carry greater rate risk, and buying shorter-dated ones.
Media reports focus obsessively on rising yields for 10- and 30-year gilts while ignoring the corresponding decline in short-dated yields.
 
The panic and framing  is very , very, very  selective.
 
Second, the maturity assumption:
 
Straight out of the Pre 1971 fixed exchange rate playbook.
 
Critics cite “rollover risk”: the fear that short-term debt becomes expensive to refinance. But as always  this treats a currency issuer like a household. Under a free-floating currency, the FED,, not the bond market, sets the short-term interest rate. US Treasury can roll over instruments indefinitely, paying roughly the Bank Rate.
 
The US Treasury has funded new borrowing since early 2025 by issuing more short-term bills without cost penalties. The long-term constraint is a choice, not a necessity.
 
But nobody will even have noticed this simple fact while the ideologues all point at the 10 year. Invoking pre 1971 fairytales. Or the US is,exactly like the Eurozone nonsense.
 
Third, the rate-setting trap:
 
Analysts assume the FED must retain the power to change rates at will. Eliminate this discretion, and the Bank Rate’s path becomes certain. Suddenly, there is no rate risk, no need for fixed-rate instruments, and no “bond market” to placate.
These framing tricks make bond market punishment appear inevitable. In reality, the government can adjust policy or its debt mix and avert any cost impact. The bond market is mendicant, not master; it merely reflects choices within the US  monetary framework. Keeping variable rates, favouring long-term debt, and tolerating selective reporting feed the myth.
 
The US could issue shorter duration debt. Which it has been doing since last year but ideologues didn’t even notice.
It could cease issuing long-dated treasuries  altogether. It could operate predominantly through Treasury bills. It could remunerate reserves differently.
 
It could stop constructing artificial refinancing exposure in order to preserve a particular ideological presentation of fiscal policy.
 
None of these possibilities are entertained because the institutional culture still treats bond issuance as though the $  remained convertible into something external and scarce.
 
If anything that’s what will get Bessent into trouble. As he ponders his next move out of his Eurozone or pre 1971 textbook.
 
Because the man is a complete idiot.
 
It’s amazing how many people treat the Eurozone and full monetary sovereign countries as the same. When they are the complete opposities.
 
But that’s the way the US rules based order likes it.
 
 

Posted by: Andrew | Aug 18 2026 19:47 utc | 34

@ Suresh | Aug 18 2026 19:41 utc | 33
 
i sometimes ponder whether all the talk is leading somewhere… is this a graduated approach to hitting back at the uk directly?? or is it some sort of feeble attempt to warm them to cool it? or?? one has to be a tea leaf reader here it seems… i can’t figure out russia’s mode of operandi  with the lingo here.. 

Posted by: james | Aug 18 2026 19:47 utc | 35

I’ll beg to differ b, Trump is leading the economy over the cliff, there ain’t no wall there. But one must always remember that Blinken/Biden confiscating Russia’s assets set this all in motion. Bessent and Trump are perfect in making sure that destruction happens. Now just imagine what it will be like when the Yuan goes 1-1 v the dollar let alone the Ruble doing that
 
Posted by: Ggersh | Aug 18 2026 18:24 utc | 14
Good point.  One cannot let Trump hate blind you to the Imperialist genocidal Democratic Party.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 18 2026 19:54 utc | 36

At some point the US will either throw-off the parasitic infection of Israeli/Israeli-americans/quislings that infect it’s body or, succumb to the parasites eating it’s flesh…them there’s the options.

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 18 2026 19:55 utc | 37

Might be interesting to some.
 
USA Panic: ECB DUMPS Dollars as Banks Cancel US Bonds For Gold

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 18 2026 20:03 utc | 38

 i can’t figure out russia’s mode of operandi  with the lingo here.. 
Posted by: james | Aug 18 2026 19:47 utc | 35
 
I honestly do not know.
 
I have an opinion that might not count for much, but I suspect Russian messaging is tightly managed and have consequences beyond the obvious.
 
My go to source for Russian messaging is Karl, so hopefully he will be giving us his views.

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 18 2026 20:12 utc | 39

Just listened to Judge Nap hosting Eli Clifton & Ian Lustick : co-authors of Israel’s Lobby book.
 
They touch upon constitutionality of the efforts to merge empirentity, but cannot bring themselves to call out who introduced the legislation to make this the law: Sen. Tom Cotton.
 
Who is going to call out this treasonous act?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEzoUZpSej4

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 18 2026 20:21 utc | 40

 And if they normalized mass murder, genocide, infanticide, blowing up children, pregnant women, incubators, hospitals, roads, tents, schools, mosques, churches, then what else is left? The damage that has taken place in Gaza is the equivalent of approximately six nuclear bombs, the size that the United States landed on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which leads us to the other point. We’re talking about the United States of America, a country, the only country in the world that used nuclear bombs against the civilian population. killing hundreds of thousands and causing generational damage to millions of people. Some of the administration mouthpieces are talking about it now and we will get to that as well as if it was the final option to force Japan to surrender…..” 
Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 18 2026 19:36 utc | 31
 
Gaza: one of the most intense bombardments in history? | SGR: Responsible Science

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 18 2026 20:25 utc | 41

When the government issues the very token you need to pay your taxes.
 
When the government issues the very token you need to buy the treasuries.
 
Then very clearly both taxes and treasury sales are not a funding operation. ( unless you are in the Eurozone )
 
The selling of treasuries are just a reserve drain. Not a funding operation.
 
Can taxes and bonds finance government spending 
 
http://www.levyinstitute.org/publications/can-taxes-and-bonds-finance-government-spending/
 
 
Completely different to the Eurozone or a pre 1971 world. That the US RULES based order wants you to believe in. 

Posted by: Andrew | Aug 18 2026 20:25 utc | 42

@31 Michaelj72
 
Nuking Iran with tactical nukes would be same air burst as Hiroshima.  Tactical nukes are not penetrating.
 
Even with penetrating nukes they lack depth and blast, unless large numbers, to blunt IRGC retaliation on electric, desalination, and Aramoc/GCC export capacity.  
 
How many Minuteman and Trident missiles, and how to keep Russia and China from thinking they are being first striker?
 
US nukes would be far more war crimes and murder than August 1945!

Posted by: paddy | Aug 18 2026 20:29 utc | 43

US interest payments reach 3.3% of GDP, highest level in history. Obviously the level of tax receipts is more important but this is indicative.
 
https://x.com/Barchart/status/2089537710201422174

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 18 2026 20:30 utc | 44

@42
 
Seems, Musk, Altman, Amodei and the execs of the other Mag 7 think they can borrow rolling over just like the U.S. government.
 
Someday Musk will tell Treasury what they can borrow l
 
I hope I am being sarcastic,

Posted by: paddy | Aug 18 2026 20:32 utc | 45

It’s unbelievable that so many people have fallen for this maelstrom of fixed exchange rate bullshit spread across the internet by the US rules based online influencers like a virus over the last 3 weeks.
 
It really is a fantastic example of GROUPTHINK in action before our eyes. 
 
I’ll make a prediction- That  by Xmas everybody will have forgotten about it. Nobody will even mention this fixed exchange rate frenzy over the past few weeks. The word Japan won’t even pass anybody’s lips.
 
After all, we have all seen this nonsense before,  a hundred times over and it never comes true.
 
Let’s see who’s right ?
 
The only man on the planet that can fuck this up is Bessent as he plays from his pre 1971 playbook.  However, there are enough people at the FED and the Treasury who have worked these payment systems for decades and worked at the cliff face who knows how it really works. That should be enough to contain the ideological madness ooozing out of Bessent at the moment.
 
Inflation is the problem and hiking rates will just make it ten times worse. Just ask Elvira  Nabiullina. The many problems she caused within Russia  as she drowned in monetarist GROUPTHINK.
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Andrew | Aug 18 2026 20:49 utc | 46

‘crack spreads’? oil has been trading over $140 in asia for months.  I paid AUD$2.55.9 per litre  for diesel Monday.

Posted by: Grant | Aug 18 2026 20:56 utc | 47

The US is in a perfect storm of economic shitwinds.
 
Do you hear that? It’s the shitwinds, Rand.
 
The increased cost of fuel and some raw materials (like aluminum) has pushed the price of every canned drink up a full dollar. As 12-pack of cokes used to could run you $6 (still does if you buy generic, which used to be $4), now costs $12. My canned seltzer that I drink went from $4.50 to $6.50, with the store brand going from $3.50 to $4.50. The inflation is already here. Couple that to the recent salmonella outbreak fucking up the cost of eggs, the recent cyclospora outbreak fucking up the cost of produce, and the continued increase in the cost of beef, and you get a situation of empty pantries, which have all the ingredients for a people’s insurgency. This administration has run off the cliff, it just hasn’t looked down yet.

Posted by: fnord | Aug 18 2026 21:01 utc | 48

Suresh | Aug 18 2026 20:12 utc | 39 & james–
 
The UK–indeed, all of NATO–has long been termed as parties–instigators–of the war–Putin, Lavrov, Medvedev, Mishustin, the Duma and Federation Council have all said as much. At yesterday’s presser that I posted a portion of to the Ukraine thread, Lavrov called out France as a sponsor of terror, and included all former and current colony controlling nations in that category. And again, the Outlaw US Empire is NATO’s King and ringleader. Sachs recitation of facts to Judge Nap yesterday said as much, although much more needed saying. The recent revelations of Japan’s Unit 731 and the cover-up of its crimes by the Empire is yet more evidence. 
 
Why was Orwell so right with 1984? Because all its components were already in motion well before WW1 and then greatly escalated during and after and was thus easily predictable for one capable of seeing the Dark Side. From their settler colonies to the peoples they enslaved before, during and after formal colonialization, those nations future behaviors were foretold by their current behaviors, and that hasn’t changed in today’s world. Look at the characteristics of Big Brother particularly the ease it lies to its subjects. Dan Davis played Macnamera’s 1964 Big Lie TV address to the nation about the Gulf of Tonkin where he’s no different from Hegseth. LBJ lied like Trump, although not as much. Eisenhower told us to beware the monster he built. And those are three of all too many. Psychological manipulation of minds not just in America is well over 130 years old–far older when you look at the excuses the Pilgrims made for themselves to exonerate them from the genocide they participated in projecting their actions onto the natives. Yet. whose POV is taught in schools? 
 
Learning about and understanding the Russian, Chinese, and overall Global South POV of the West is critical to discovering the truth about westerners generally, the vast majority of whom are Orwellian Proles.  
 
     

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 18 2026 21:07 utc | 49

james @ 35
 
Russia is not attempting to aim PR at you. Seeing US and dominions as target audience is something that has never worked for them. And they have never tried all that hard.

Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 18 2026 21:10 utc | 50

@ Suresh | Aug 18 2026 20:12 utc | 39
 
thanks suresh.. i see karl has replied.. now i will read this and the other post to me..
 
@ karlof1 | Aug 18 2026 21:07 utc | 49
 
thanks karl.. well, all of that – yes… i am reading a book english outsider recommended by john darwin – unfinished empire… it gives a lot more detail to the idea of empire building and the history to it as told by darwin as well. it is quite an interesting book.. it still doesn’t answer the question of why lavrov is saying all this now.. okay – so russia is acknowledging what is going on.. great! but is something more implied in this relatively recent messaging??? that is what i am really curious about… we all know who the guilty parties are in creating this nato – russia conflict… but it still arouses my curiousity if this present messaging is aimed at something coming, which we have yet to witness.. thanks..
 
@ oldhippie | Aug 18 2026 21:10 utc | 50
 
i understand this, but thank you for stating it regardless.. however, is this just a statement of fact from lavrov without any additional implications that might be coming down the pipe?? that is what i am trying to figure out.. 

Posted by: james | Aug 18 2026 21:21 utc | 51

The crack spread is the number all industry people look at. The traded WTI price is a paper price.
You can’t crack paper.

Posted by: bill jones | Aug 18 2026 21:26 utc | 52

Might be interesting to some.
 
USA Panic: ECB DUMPS Dollars as Banks Cancel US Bonds For Gold
 
Posted by: Suresh | Aug 18 2026 20:03 utc | 38

 
The price of gold fell 2% today and the Euro is flat against the dollar.
 
I’ve learned to ignore any economy-related headline containing the word PANIC. It’s always grotesquely exaggerated clickbait.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 18 2026 21:30 utc | 53

b: “Economically Trump is on his way to run the States into a wall.”
 
The wall has been there for almost 20 years. Trump is the current crash test dummy. Netanyahu won’t let him take the brick off the accelerator. In any case, the crash was going to happen. What better buffoon to pin it on?

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Aug 18 2026 21:30 utc | 54

i think powers that be have a very tenuous hold on the markets.. maybe i am wrong, but this is what it looks like to me.. 

Posted by: james | Aug 18 2026 21:32 utc | 55

 Psychological manipulation of minds not just in America is well over 130 years old–far older when you look at the excuses the Pilgrims made for themselves to exonerate them from the genocide they participated in projecting their actions onto the natives.      
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 18 2026 21:07 utc | 49

 
It wasn’t the Pilgrims that committed genocide. It was those who came later and wanted to cash in on the 19th century version of the “next big thing”.

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Aug 18 2026 21:37 utc | 56

Thanks Karl.
 
I believe Lavrov’s message coming hot on the heels of Putin’s instruction to the Pacific Fleet is final signaling to RoW that the Brits are in the cross hairs.
 
This is also following news of the British High Command frantically trying to reestablish direct contact with the Russian General Staff.
 
What did SIS (MI6) find out?
 
I wonder if Ian Proud or Cmdr Jermy will cover these implications. 

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 18 2026 21:39 utc | 57

I’ve learned to ignore any economy-related headline containing the word PANIC. It’s always grotesquely exaggerated clickbait.
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 18 2026 21:30 utc | 53
 
Thanks, this subject is unfortunately way over my head really. 

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 18 2026 21:43 utc | 58

@16 bored
Actual US inflation (8%) and unemployment (25%) figures. Be proud.
https://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data
Regarding possibility of US using a nuke on Iran. If occurs expect Wash DC to be vaporized.

Posted by: Thurl | Aug 18 2026 21:53 utc | 59

Much like the TV series Life on Mars, the GROUPTHINK seems trapped in economic limbo, endlessly replaying the same “Remember 1976” column until it functions almost as a fossil record of Britain’s post-Bretton Woods confusion.
 
The names change. The geopolitical crises change. The inflation scare changes. But the framework remains untouched: governments “borrow money” from markets, markets may lose confidence, and they must constantly reassure “international creditors” or face another 1976-style humiliation.
 
The problem is that the historical analogy itself is badly misunderstood.
 
 
Those drowning in monetarist GROUPTHINK  still don’t get it.
 
The 1976 IMF crisis was not a demonstration that Britain had “run out of money” in its own currency. Nor was it proof that bond markets ultimately dictate fiscal policy to sovereign governments operating floating exchange rates.
 
It was, in large part, the consequence of British policymakers still behaving as though the Bretton Woods system existed after it had already collapsed.
 
Many people  still think and write as though the Bretton Woods system still exists. The post-war order had depended upon managed exchange rates anchored ultimately to the dollar.
 
Even after Nixon ended gold convertibility in 1971, much of the British establishment remained psychologically committed to defending sterling externally.
 
Policymakers treated exchange-rate weakness as a national emergency requiring international discipline and foreign support. That mindset led the Labour government into a series of increasingly desperate efforts to stabilise sterling through orthodox credibility measures and foreign currency borrowing, including substantial dollar-denominated support operations.
 
Sound familiar ?
 
Even today the ” sound money ” nutjobs drowning in the GROUPTHINK say the very same thing today as FLOATING exchange rates fall. Word for Word. 
 
Once a state accumulates obligations in a currency it does not issue, an actual financing constraint emerges. You now need access to foreign exchange. See Eurozone for details.
 
The IMF episode was therefore primarily a foreign exchange crisis tied to external dollar liabilities and exchange-rate management, not evidence that Britain could not spend pounds.
 
That distinction matters enormously.
 
The GROUPTHINK presents 1976 as though it were an eternal lesson about fiscal irresponsibility. But the more accurate lesson is almost the reverse: the danger lay in trying to preserve an obsolete exchange-rate regime and subordinating domestic policy to external financial approval.
 
Most of the World today today operates under a fundamentally different monetary system. Sterling floats. The government spends through the Bank of England. Public liabilities are almost exclusively denominated in sterling. The UK does not promise convertibility into gold or dollars at fixed rates. It does not require foreign currency reserves to make domestic sterling payments.
 
Yet, the US rules based order online influencers , still write as though Denis Healey is waiting at Heathrow clutching an IMF application for US dollars. Straight out of the OBR and IFS ancient texts that  they still promote as natural economic laws  today.
 
The irony begins by describing a perfectly recognisable real-resource shock. War in the Gulf disrupts hydrocarbons, shipping routes and fertiliser supplies. Energy prices rise. Industrial costs rise. Supply chains tighten. Inflation follows.
 
This is not  even mysterious. Nor is it primarily financial. 
 
You cannot solve an oil shock by reassuring bond traders. You cannot repair damaged infrastructure through fiscal austerity. If inflation emerges because physical energy supplies are disrupted, then the constraint is material and logistical before it is monetary.
 
But the US rules based order establishment commentary almost always performs the same manoeuvre. Real economic disruption is immediately reframed as a morality play about government borrowing.
 
Bond yields rise and suddenly the old liturgy resumes:
 
markets are alarmed, Labour has “lurched Left”, investors are “calling time”, and Britain risks “another 1976”.
 
One senses less analysis here and even more  institutional reflex.
 
For decades  political and media classes have treated financial markets as the ultimate arbiters of democratic legitimacy. Governments may govern only within parameters approved by creditors.
 
Nothing must change and it doesn’t matter if you are from the left or right.
 
Fiscal policy becomes an exercise in market signalling. Entire political programmes are ruled out in advance by invoking “confidence”.
 
It is as though the Parliament Act has been quietly superseded, and the veto over money bills has re-emerged in the form of an informal chamber of financial markets.
 
Yet the operational realities tell a rather different story.
 
The full monetary sovereign nation  state does not obtain sterling from bond markets before it can spend.
 
Government spending credits bank accounts and, via Bank of England operations, increases settlement balances in the banking system.
 
Gilt issuance ( borrowing )  then changes the composition of those balances, exchanging reserves for interest-bearing securities. This is a monetary operation, not a household financing exercise.
 
Even the idea that long-term gilt yields represent an unavoidable market verdict is questionable. The maturity structure of government liabilities is itself a policy choice.
 
Britain could issue shorter-term debt. It could rely more heavily on reserve balances. It could stop issuing long-duration gilts altogether if it wished.
 
Japan has spent decades quietly demonstrating that a sovereign currency issuer does not mechanically become hostage to bond vigilantes, despite endless predictions to the contrary.
 
But acknowledging this would undermine the deeper ideological function of the US rules based order framework.
 
Because the language of “markets calling time” is ultimately about discipline. It narrows democratic ambition  by presenting contingent institutional arrangements as immutable laws of economics.
 
It tells voters that public priorities must always remain subordinate to financial sentiment. And after thirty years of this argument, the results are difficult to celebrate.
 
Britain systematically underinvested in infrastructure, housing, transport, energy resilience and productive capacity while obsessing over fiscal optics and debt ratios.
 
Public services were squeezed in the name of “credibility”. Monetary policy inflated asset markets while productive investment stagnated.
 
Now genuine supply shocks arrive and the same commentariat offers the same prescription it always has:
 
Reassure markets, cut spending, restore confidence.
 
The strange melancholy of it all is  is that it belongs intellectually to a world that no longer exists. Its assumptions were formed in the dying years of Bretton Woods and preserved through decades of City orthodoxy.
 
The language remains confident, but it is obviously ritual repetition rather than explanation. Most of the World  left the monetary world of 1976 a long time ago. 
 
Much of its economic journalism never did.
 
Thus,  millions have been brainwashed by it.

Posted by: Andrew | Aug 18 2026 21:53 utc | 60

 Andrew | Aug 18 2026 19:26 utc | 30
Excellent analysis! 

Posted by: Montefrío | Aug 18 2026 22:01 utc | 61

Posted by: Montefrío | Aug 18 2026 22:01 utc | 61
 
Thank you..

Posted by: Andrew | Aug 18 2026 22:11 utc | 62

 
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/55829#
ResistanceTrench mirror 
 
⚡️ Iran’s Parliament Speaker Ghalibaf: 
Americans think squeezing Iran harder will win concessions that were never part of the agreement. 
 
Bessent and Hegseth are way out of their league. Stop waiting for the clown crew to pull a rabbit out of their hat and clean up the mess you made.
 
———————
 
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/2088872014555513295
MenchOsint  @MenchOsint 
 
Abu Ala al-Walai, a leader in the Iraqi Islamic Resistance: 
“One of the clearest aspects of Iraq’s diminished sovereignty is America’s economic domination, its occupation, its literal control over its funds, and its complete control over its resources. 
 
Will the free people of dear Iraq accept that its wealth be treated as a gift, not an inherent sovereign right of its people?
 
Is it too much to ask for liberation from American financial and economic hegemony, diversification of export markets and banking networks, and the building of an economy that owns its decisions, its wealth, and its trade routes? 
 
Sovereignty is not complete by controlling the land alone, but by possessing political, economic, and financial decision-making power, free from the domination of any external force.”
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 18 2026 22:29 utc | 63

The talk has again turned to the possibility of nuke use. The Wilkerson/Nima chat closely focused on that topic and more.  The Empire’s dire financial condition was also discussed.
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 18 2026 19:20 utc | 28
 
Yes, very depressing.  On Trump’s part, would that not be an impeachable offence?  Just to consider it I mean.  Might be why he’s lying; he doesn’t want to go near that.  Hegseth as well.  I wish lying were an impeachable offense, given the Iran minister’s quote of Dostoievski.  They shouldn’t be able to do that!  A misdemeanor at least !!!

Posted by: juliania | Aug 18 2026 22:30 utc | 64

BREAKING: IRAN BOMBS UAE, ISRAEL ATTACKS TURKISH MILITARY – w/ Prof. Robert Pape
 
It’s Nawfal (boo) and Prof. Pape – the all American imperialist (I don’t think he even realises). but his analysis is coherent and thought provoking, so worth a little suffering.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 18 2026 22:31 utc | 65

@56
Be a Massachusetts Yankee.  The ancestors of the U.S. Army are the militias in the Bay colony organized to thrust the aboriginal off the land, they moved away until they couldn’t and other aboriginals killed them off.
 
The Seven Years war in the colonies was the French and Indians wars, destroyed aboriginal entity east of the Allegheny!
 
The revolution was in part because the crown refused to do genocide for the colonies in the Cumberland counties…
 
US is not innocent from 1620.
 
Viruses brought did a lot of weakening…

Posted by: paddy | Aug 18 2026 22:32 utc | 66

@59
 
The U.S.’ employment to population ratio is roughly 61%, done a nit recently.
 
That is 39% do not work.

Posted by: paddy | Aug 18 2026 22:36 utc | 67

Keep ’em coming, please! 

Because the language of “markets calling time” is ultimately about discipline. It narrows democratic ambition by presenting contingent institutional arrangements as immutable laws of economics.It tells voters that public priorities must always remain subordinate to financial sentiment. And after thirty years of this argument, the results are difficult to celebrate.

I’m going to translate this into Spanish and send it to Victoria Villaruel, the vice president of Argentina, whom I sincerely hope will become president in place of the Chabad Trump mini-me who presently occupies the office from which he should be removed, never mind reelected. This alleged legend-in-his-own-mind “Austrian economist” is destroying Argentina in his failed attempt to toady to the IMF while cementing the nation into the Spodocene era of “managed| decline. Ms. Villaruel is a conservative nationalist who may be able to forge a coalition with the traditional wing of the Peronistas (!) and other opponents of finance capitalism at its worst. She is primarily opposed on  the left by the neo-peronists typified by Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, aged hippies sill wearing tie-dye Che tee-shirts and younger pronoun people; on the right by the Milei boot-licking faction in thrall to Peter Thiel. Best of all, perhaps, Villaruel is a dignified lady, not a screeching harpy pretending to be the reincarnation of Eva Perón.

Posted by: Montefrío | Aug 18 2026 22:44 utc | 68

My comment @68 was directed to Andrew. Please forgive the careless omission on my part.

Posted by: Montefrío | Aug 18 2026 22:48 utc | 69

Posted by: paddy | Aug 18 2026 22:32 utc | 66
“Be a Massachusetts Yankee.  The ancestors of the U.S. Army are the militias in the Bay colony organized to thrust the aboriginal off the land, they moved away until they couldn’t and other aboriginals killed them off.”
 
Huh?  Then the Massachusetts Yankee invaded the southern states and made the African slave a citizen.  
 
 

Posted by: Kentuckian | Aug 18 2026 22:49 utc | 70

ChatNPC | Aug 18 2026 22:31 utc | 65
Yet another Israeli false flag?
https://www.presstv.co.uk/Detail/2026/08/18/774641/Iran-UAE-missile-rejection-warning-false-flag

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Aug 18 2026 23:10 utc | 71

@bored 16

On the other end, the stock markets are all up massively. the SPR drain is MUCH slower than a few weeks ago, and the jobless rate is holding steady.  The US economy is doing better than the rest of the planet.
Posted by: bored | Aug 18 2026 18:35 utc | 16

Well the top 10% of wealthy Americans own 85% of the stocks so they are doing well. In fact, the top 10% of US income earners make up about 50% of total consumer demand. 
There is are good reasons the stock market is doing well. The first is US government deficit spending and the increasing national debt. Over the last 10 fiscal years the national debt has increased by about $20 trillion, meaning the average deficit has been $2 trillion per year – it also works out to deficit spending of $24,000 for a family of four, each year – although I doubt they see much of it. https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/debt-to-the-penny/debt-to-the-penny  
That deficit spending hasn’t boosted the economy. During the same period Real GDP growth has averaged 2.37% (bea.gov), which for a $30 trillion economy works out to about $700 billion in growth per year. But see here is the trick, the government pumps in $2 trillion of debt to boost the economy and it grows by a little over a third of that amount. I would think that much of the deficit spending goes into corporate profits where they buy their own stocks to boost the price and get higher bonuses for senior management. The other thing is that the huge trade deficit the country has means paying money out to foreigners. They take the money and buy American assets like stocks, real estate and government debt. The hard part is if they don’t buy American assets because then there will be downward pressure on the US dollar along with more inflation and higher interest rates.
The US economy works for the wealthy and leaves average Americans behind. The national debt will hit $40 trillion soon and there is a good chance that average interest rates will climb to 5%. Once that happens the annual interest payments will hit $2 Trillion per year – right now they are about $1.1 trillion and both parties are talking about ways to make Social Security more affordable. Imagine the cuts to social spending as the debt and interest payments keep climbing. 

Posted by: TimD | Aug 18 2026 23:14 utc | 72

Government debt doesn’t fund anything  Posted by: Andrew | Aug 18 2026 19:26 utc | 30
 
    So reassuring that Government debt doesn’t fund anything. Thanks for the academic treatise on absurdity.
   

Posted by: kupkee | Aug 18 2026 23:24 utc | 73

It feels like the last round. 
 
Both sides trading big punches. 

 
 
 

 

@MilitarySummary
1h

🚨 According to our information, US intelligence has warned the Ukrainian authorities about the high probability of massive shelling of Kyiv and the region in the next 48 hours. A list of potential targets has also been provided to the responsible authorities. All structures have been warned.
Aug 18, 2026 · 9:59 PM UTC

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 18 2026 23:34 utc | 74

i sometimes ponder whether all the talk is leading somewhere… is this a graduated approach to hitting back at the uk directly?? or is it some sort of feeble attempt to warm them to cool it? or?? one has to be a tea leaf reader here it seems… i can’t figure out russia’s mode of operandi  with the lingo here.. 
 
Posted by: james | Aug 18 2026 19:47 utc | 35

 
I hope this won’t take us too far away from b’s topic, james — if it does, we can take it to the open thread —   but I am minded in all these financial matters, that in the earliest section of Plato’s Republic Socrates asks the elderly father, Cephalus  a  question :
 
 

“What you say is very fine indeed, Cephalus,”  I said.  “But as to this very thing, justice, shall we so simply assert that it is the truth and giving back what a man has taken from another, or is to do these very things sometimes just and sometimes unjust?  Take this case as an example of what I mean: everyone would surely say that if a man takes weapons from a friend when the latter is of sound mind, and the friend demands them back when he is mad, one shouldn’t give back such things, and the man who gave them back would not be just, and moreover one should not be willing to tell someone in this state the whole truth.”
 
“What you say is right,”  he said.   [Alan Bloon translator]

 
In the dialogue, this is where Polymarchus interrupts to disagree.  He is the son of Cephalus, and the argument then changes hands as Cephalus retires from the scene.
 
I was interested as I typed this out, that truth seems to be an additional component to the discussion about justice.  Socrates has switched the subject from ‘wealth’ to ‘weapons’ as well.  Polymarchus ‘inherits’ the argument, which now also moves to ‘friends’ and ‘enemies’.  In a series of deft q’s and a’s . Socrates reaches a new milestone  with him:  that it is never just to injure anyone.  Polymarchus agrees.
 
I see I must leave it at that for now.  For, the next participant turns out to be Thrasymachus.  (Consider this a pause for tea, to be continued perhaps on the open forum.  Indeed, james, your opening sentence would apply;  does all of this lead somewhere?)

Posted by: juliania | Aug 18 2026 23:36 utc | 75

Sorry, the translator is Alan Bloom.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 18 2026 23:37 utc | 76

@ juliania | Aug 18 2026 23:36 utc | 75
 
i agree it is never ”just” to injure someone… what is worse – killing/murder others… it’s an interesting analogy here – maybe philosophical dilemma is a better way to think of it. 
 
at any rate – lavrov has said what he has said and this must reflect russias position, but perhaps i want to read more into it then is their… 
 
i have a gig tonight out of town and leave shortly.. back much later.. thanks for your post juliania!

Posted by: james | Aug 18 2026 23:44 utc | 77

645 Million GO Hungry As Global Military Spending Hits A Record $2.9 Trillion
 
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/08/18/necw-a18.html
 
“Nearly one in three people on earth cannot afford a healthy diet. That is the central finding of the 2026 edition of the UN’s State of Food Security and Nutrition in the World (SOFI) released July 21, which puts the figure at 2.69 billion people, or 32.7 percent of the global population.
 
The question is why, in the third decade of the 21st century, amid productive capacities that could feed the world’s population many times over, 645 million people remain chronically hungry and 2.69 billion cannot afford a nutritious diet?
 
Five weeks before the report appeared, a single stock listing made one man the wealthiest in recorded history. The asset prices that briefly made Musk a trillionaire are driven by the same financial mechanisms that have pushed the cost of food, housing and basic necessities beyond the reach of billions…”
 
Either capitalism goes or we go. Beware the oligarchs and their oligarchies. ALL of them. 
 

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 18 2026 23:49 utc | 78

The thing about “finance” is that it requires trust. If you think that its worthless , would you exchange goods or services for it or look for something else in exchange? Money only has value if we all agree that it has otherwise its plastic/paper/electrons. When you need a barrow load of “money” to buy anything its value will decline. The current financial markets are theatre to convince everyone that it’s all under control, when the cliff is coming. You can’t eat money or use it for fuel and if no one wants it its worthless. Electronic money requires the infrastructure to exist and that can be destroyed easily as its fragile. Interesting times ahead.

Posted by: The fossil | Aug 19 2026 0:04 utc | 79

R2R: ‘Hurtling Toward The Energy Cliff’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@reason2resist/videos
 
“Oil products hit record prices as Iran war escalates.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 19 2026 0:08 utc | 80

 james | Aug 18 2026 21:21 utc | 51
 
You asked “Why now”? IMO, the Security Council met and decided to further turn the screws. The last meeting was on the 14th and was cited as “an operational meeting” with only the main members present. IMO, there was also a wider “backroom” discussion involving China and Iran. Mojtaba’s stance is uncompromising, which is very similar to Putin and Xi’s. 
 
 juliania | Aug 18 2026 23:36 utc | 75
 
Trump has committed a plethora of crimes that beg for impeachment followed by a court trial for 1st degree murder, followed by a guilty verdict and a death sentence. But we have a Congress that’s filled with Outlaws, have no honor and are cowards, save only a handful, almost all of them in violation of their oath of office. Having an Outlaw Presidential administration has become a tradition going back to Truman if not before. 

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 19 2026 0:35 utc | 81

Simple:
 
If you keep lying your teeth off about everything all the time, eventually it catches up with you.  The sort of stuff you are supposed to learn in kindergarten.
 
The fake can may be kicked further down the road but an economic disaster and strategic loss is fermenting and just getting bigger for the USA. 
 
Bessent is just another sugar coating clown that plays Trump’s sick and deluded tune.
 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Aug 19 2026 0:35 utc | 82

“Iran offers $30,000 bounty for killing or capturing US soldiers”
https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20260816-iran-offers-30-000-bounty-for-killing-or-capturing-us-soldiers
 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell@mail.com | Aug 19 2026 0:40 utc | 83

@81 karlof

“IMO, the Security Council met and decided to further turn the screws”

It would also pre-empt or neutralise attempts by west to criticise any foreign involvement on Russia’s side.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 19 2026 0:53 utc | 84

” Trump declares Hormuz ‘new US territory’ ”
 
https://www.rt.com/news/644373-trump-hormuz-us-territory/
 
First class grandiose delusion. 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Aug 19 2026 1:03 utc | 85

Regarding the domestic theater from Bessent and others, we should realize one crucial thing and that is the only thing you really need to worry about:
 

  1. If you are listening to a press release or interview from Bessent, et. al., they are still in the process of looting; when someone far less slick than Bessent makes an appearance on a televised interview and the amount of oil used on hair and such is of a magnitude far lower than what the viewer is conditioned to accept, you will know that the worst has already happened and the bottom has given out and can expect dark decades ahead.

 
Riding my bike to work per Exile’s recommendation. Much sunnier mood the last couple days. Maybe we’ll get down to one car, too, between Mrs. Nemesis and I. 

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 19 2026 1:06 utc | 86

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 19 2026 0:35 utc | 81
Thanks for your response, karlof1, and thank you james, best wishes to your gig!  I just was listening to Bernstein’s ‘Symphony’ on Plato’ s  dialogue Symposium  – after my previous post, so not its forerunner.  I will give a small continuation at the open forum this evening.  These finance matters are not even Greek to me, but I understand they translate ominously for those who know about these things.
 
On the subject of love, I didn’t find Bernstein ‘s Symphony very helpful – nor perhaps was Plato.  General Factotum was, however, in his several posts yesterday following the thought of Dostoievski;  the danger to one who lies being, for him,  a loss of the ability to love.  Lavrov hasn’t lost that ability – – he loves his country, and because of that, he loves all countries, even those who would be enemies, at least as their so-called leaders would have it. 
 
So, he is extending ‘words to the wise’, hoping they will be heeded, while sadly feeling they will not.  In which case, that there will be consequences is a hard truth.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 19 2026 1:16 utc | 87

Stock market futures finally waking up. Reality strikes. Oh my God! This is real not a game !!!!!
 
https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Aug 19 2026 1:17 utc | 88

Slow motion events or stage setting, sometimes it looks like the region is being prepped for infighting while US steps back.

Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma

– “Turkish Presidency: Netanyahu’s false claims aim to justify illegal air strikes targeting Syria’s sovereignty ”

– “Wall Street Journal via US officials:

Trump is pushing to hold a meeting with the North Korean leader during his next visit to Asia next November and will try to convince Kim to give up his nuclear weapons”

MES

– “President Trump has formally instructed his administration to cease all diplomatic talks with Iran, instead shifting to a maximum economic pressure campaign to convince Iran to capitulate – CNN”

The Palestine Observer

– “Syria’s gas export pipeline exploded due to an intentional sabotage, disrupting several power plants.

The Syrian Oil Company reported the explosion as a deliberate act of sabotage.

Al Mayadeen network cited preliminary investigations confirming the intentional nature of the attack”

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 19 2026 1:25 utc | 89

Trump is more a genius than the knows. Future historians will note Trumps “achievements” as not only taking off the mask of the USA and shown its true face in the geopolitical arena, but also shown how the Empire manipulates entire markets like oil and gold.

Posted by: littlereddot | Aug 19 2026 1:26 utc | 90

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Aug 19 2026 1:03 utc | 85 .. ” Trump declares Hormuz ‘new US territory’ ”…
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<=does this mean attacking a USA asset in the middle east is the same as attacking a USA (like Washington, DC. ) Asset in domestic, continental America?   They are both USA territory according to Trump.. Maybe this territorial claim is to be the excuse to be used to go nuclear?  
 

Posted by: snake | Aug 19 2026 1:42 utc | 91

Why has Trump not been impeached?
That would simultaneously end the Iran war,  which would restart normal oil related production, restore the power of the ICJ,  UN and ICC,  condemn  Israel, lock up  Israel’s war criminals, lock up Europe’s war criminals and finish finish the Ukraine war.
 
I know, I know, desperate situations require desperate remedies. 
That’s why Hasbarat Habakuk #4 is back – to help. make sure none of these sensible solutions turn into reality.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 19 2026 1:46 utc | 92

Can China’s New Arctic Sea Route To Europe Replace Middle East Chokepoints?
 
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/8/18/can-chinas-new-arctic-sea-route-to-europe-replace-middle-east-chokepoints
 
“China has announced a new shipping route through the Arctic Ocean, which could ease the way for global trade amid the Middle East crisis that has paralyzed critical waterways, including the Bab-al-Mendeb strait on the edge of the Red Sea.
 
Shipping companies have become increasingly interested in alternative trade routes through the Arctic in recent years as conflicts such as the the US war on Iran, restrict vital routes, like the Red Sea and the Gulf.
 
So could China’s new shipping route be a sustainable alternative, and what would it mean for the balance of power in international trade? Here’s what we know…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 19 2026 1:49 utc | 93

Can China’s New Arctic Sea Route To Europe Replace Middle East Chokepoints?
Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 19 2026 1:49 utc | 93

 
It is Russia’s Arctic Sea Route that China plans to use with the aid of the Russian ice-breakers.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Aug 19 2026 1:58 utc | 94

@92 giyanne
 
Contrary to what many here advise re: the empire’s fp and that we should just “leave,” we should definitely consider the possibility that the situation in the financialized west is such that it must bring the Axis to its knees or the whole rotten edifice of the west will come down. (By the whole thing coming down, I mean the legacy of western elites will be such that they leave a worse condition for their children  (their children will have to do actual work or *gasp* work next to the smudges (went to find the Charles Bukowski poem with the line “I am a smudge” but couldn’t find it))). 
 
Why don’t we just leave? By now if those barflies haven’t traced their thinking around to the only reasonable answer to such a question, then I just don’t know about them.
 
The answer: WE CAN’T!

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 19 2026 2:07 utc | 95

🙂 It comes to mind that great saying from whom I am forgetting the lovely poster here, Random Thoughts was it?, who brought up the anecdote he lived to his detriment before packing it in from working in stock markets, and after getting burned retiring early:
 
“The markets can be irrational longer than you can be solvent.”
 
I like that quote. Eventually the bill comes due. But it comes when one is most lost in delusion. Makes it hard to anticipate because some people have prime real estate in delusions of grandeur. So when are they most lost?
 
If I was human I’d probably have a secondary plan for me and mine than trying to time my short sell right. 🙂 Can you store nuts for the winter like chipmunks? 😮 Ooh, you should buy physical media, like books and movies, for when the streaming or the clouds go down. From what I see of people nowadays boredom seems to be a fate worse than death! 🙁

Posted by: titmouse | Aug 19 2026 2:14 utc | 96

Stock market futures finally waking up. Reality strikes. Oh my God! This is real not a game !!!!!
 
https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/
 
Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Aug 19 2026 1:17 utc | 88

 
Oil futures are up by about a percent and stock market futures are flat. This could change of course, but let’s not get all Sean Foo over every momentary market twitch.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 19 2026 2:20 utc | 97

TRIPP: US Tentacles in the South Caucasus
 
https://x.com/SprinterPress/status/208984576928600184
 
“Marco Rubio called the ‘Trump Route’ (TRIPP) project ‘much more than just infrastructure.’ And that’s true. It’s about a strategic corridor through Armenia that is intended to connect Azerbaijan with Nakhichivan. Only 42 km long, but that’s enough to gain leverage over the entire region.
 
Armenia is transferring 74% of the project to the US for 49 years…It sounds like a partnership. In reality it’s a transfer of sovereignty…Under these conditions, the only way to maintain [Russian] influence in the Caucasus is through cooperation with Iran…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 19 2026 2:23 utc | 98

98 corrected:
https://x.com/SprinterPress/status/2089845768928600184

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 19 2026 2:29 utc | 99

Riding my bike to work per Exile’s recommendation. Much sunnier mood the last couple days. Maybe we’ll get down to one car, too, between Mrs. Nemesis and I. 
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 19 2026 1:06 utc | 86

 
well done for taking the first step. Reminder; it takes a few years to transition from car dependency to car free living. For exanple;  I took 10 years to fully liberate myself. 

Posted by: Exile | Aug 19 2026 2:39 utc | 100