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August 7, 2026
The Odd Defense Agreement Between Saudi Arabia, Pakistan And Turkey

A new NATO like agreement between three major Sunni states throws up various questions:

Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan sign defence pactMEE

Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan signed a joint defence agreement on Friday, connecting the three largest Muslim countries in the world under one security umbrella for the first time.

The deal, which has been under negotiation since last year, creates a significant new trilateral framework amid a deepening regional crisis following Israeli and US attacks on Iran.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman and Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif signed the deal in Mecca in a joint ceremony.

“The Agreement aims to bolster collective deterrence against all forms of aggression and stipulates that an armed attack carried out against any one of the three states shall be considered an attack against all of them,” the joint statement said. “The Agreement also provides for the development of defense cooperation among the three states in all its dimensions.”

The phrase “shall be considered an attack against all of them” is copied from Article 5 of the NATO Treaty:

an armed attack against one or more of them … shall be considered an attack against them all …

But the following parts of Article 5 spell out rather vague consequences:

… they agree that … each of them … will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking … such action as it deems necessary

In contrast to popular believe Article 5 does not stipulate that all NATO would go to war because of an attack on one of its member countries. If a protest letter is ‘deemed necessary …’ to assist – that may well be it.

We do not know what consequences of an attack on one member are spelled in the new Turkish-Saudi-Pakistani agreement. I suspect that any of them will be even more vague than those in the NATO treaty.

I find it hard to understand how this new agreement could possibly have more than symbolic value.

Pakistan is currently in a conflict with the Pashtun people in its own country as well as with their brethren in Afghanistan. It recently had a clash with India which could soon resume. India is working on diverting the Himalaya water resources Pakistan needs to survive as a state. If that does not stop Pakistan will be, in a few years from now, pressed to go to war for its own survival. India, as well as Pakistan, are nuclear armed.

Neither Turkey nor Saudi Arabia have any interest to fight against India or Afghanistan.

The Saudis are at war with Ansarallah in Yemen. The ‘Houthi’ have recently announced that they will blockade all Saudi seaports until the Saudis lift their long standing air and sea blockade on Yemen. Just yesterday they attacked military installations within Saudi Arabia as well as Saudi proxy forces in south-eastern Yemen.

Pakistan has already sent forces to Saudi Arabia. But these have been, so far, for purely (air-)defensive purposes. It is hard to imagine that Pakistan or Turkey would send their soldiers to join an unwinnable war in Yemen. (They will remember that in the 1960s Egypt received a bloody nose when it sent ground troops into Yemen.)

Saudi Arabia also hosts U.S. forces which have become targets of Iranian attacks. If the U.S. decides to attempt another bombing campaign on Iran the revenge strikes will hit Saudi assets. This could, in theory, trigger the new agreement. But Turkey as well as Pakistan have fairy good relations with Tehran. Any intervention from their side would be a risky and high cost endeavors. Their populations would perceive a war against Iran as taking part on the (very much hated) U.S. side.

It is therefore implausible that the new defense pact is meant for or will have any influence in the ongoing conflicts.

Pakistan’s interest in the agreement comes down to Saudi money which it needs to prop up its state.

Turkey wants to sell weapons. The clause on “development of defense cooperation” within the new agreement will likely mean new contracts for Turkish drone makers.

Saudi Arabia has become distrustful of its U.S. alliance. It is preparing for the U.S. to leave and is seeking other strong partners. In the longer run its potential enemy is likely not Iran but Israel or maybe even the United Arab Emirates, which have Israel’s backing.

While this new agreement may have no short term consequences it may however, over the years, develop into something stronger.

A sign for that would be the stationing of Turkish troops in Saudi Arabia to take up the bases the U.S. will soon be leaving.

Comments

It is against iran?
Pakistan is forgetting about India. India may get involved. They have good relations with iran.
Saudis are attacking yemen, so there is no reason to invoke the defense pact.
It could be against iraq? 
Or turkey against armenia.
Very odd pact. Pakis have the men power and nukes but its economy is crap.
turkey have men power and nato equipment. Economy is less crap.
Saudis have money

Posted by: Hugo | Aug 7 2026 15:44 utc | 1

I think this is the prelude to Turkey leaving NATO and joining BRICS.

Posted by: sirdavide | Aug 7 2026 15:45 utc | 2

“the three largest Muslim countries in the world”  
Ever hear of Indonesia

Posted by: BitterGrapes | Aug 7 2026 15:46 utc | 3

Iran should cut a deal with Saudi Arabia (& Turkey for that matter).
 
Why should these countries exist?
 
Kuwait – why does this country exist? It’s a natural fit for Iraq – as we have seen before, but perhaps the timing was just wrong…
 
Jordan / Hashemite Kingdom – what is the purpose of this country? Could it not be better to divide Jordan between Saudi Arabia, Iraq & Syria?
 
If Iraq and Syria get parts of Jordan, and Iraq gets Kuwait – that provides the opportunity for Turkey to take certain parts of Northern Syria & Iraq – a WIN WIN WIN WIN…
 
United Arab Emirates – a clear belligerent in this conflict – would the future be better if Abu Dhabi Emirate was part of Saudi Arabia, and the rest of the UAE was a part of Oman?
 
Surely the region would be far more stable if Jordan, Kuwait & UAE exited stage left….

Posted by: Julian | Aug 7 2026 15:50 utc | 4

Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan sign defence pact – MEE
Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan signed a joint defence agreement on Friday, connecting the three largest Muslim countries in the world under one security umbrella for the first time. […]

 
🙁 A technicality: I thought Indonesia, Iran, Bangladesh, and or Kazakhstan would be up there somewhere as part of the “three largest Muslim countries in the world”. But I guess population and or territorial area don’t count. 🙂 I’m just ignorant, I guess.
 
Anyway, this reminds me of when teachers would teach the folly that led up to WWI by windows I sometimes perch at. They pointed out how large, and later intertwined, alliances were meant to induce peace. In reality it just triggered everyone to explode on each other, needing only an excuse to light up the whole string of firecrackers.
 
😉 This might not be a wise bit of history to repeat.
/turns to recent arrival of a feathered friend
 
😀 Oh, hi canary friend! 😮 You look faint. You ok? 🙂 It’s like you’ve been near a miasmic vapor or something. Are your humours doing well?

Posted by: titmouse | Aug 7 2026 15:56 utc | 5

repost from Iran board–
 
Alon Mizrahi-The Borat Agreements https://alonmizrahi.substack.com/p/the-borat-agreements?utm_campaign=email-post&r=2u1tvs&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Posted by: arby | Aug 7 2026 16:01 utc | 6

Taking a page from the western book concerning timed-announcements, I get it from good authority that the deal was done to juice the stock price of KSA’s tech stocks, namely the FaceBook-killer company WajahBook run by Mohammed Zuckerberg. 
 
You can use the app to post short videos of you throwing guys off rooftops. I doomscroll there a lot.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 7 2026 16:09 utc | 7

From Iranintl
 

Iran lawmaker dismisses Mecca defense pact as ‘paper agreement’

 

Iranian lawmaker Ebrahim Rezaei criticized the new defense agreement between Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Pakistan, saying it would not provide Saudi Arabia with security.
“Saudi Arabia should understand that a paper agreement with Turkey and Pakistan will not provide them with security, just as years of one-sided dependence on the Americans did not bring them security,” Rezaei, a member of parliament’s National Security and Foreign Policy Commission, said in a post on X Friday.
“Correct your policies so that you no longer have to beg others for security,” he added.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 7 2026 16:12 utc | 8

A sign for that would be the stationing of Turkish troops in Saudi Arabia to take up the bases the U.S. will soon be leaving.

 
“The Ottomans are back! Woohoo!”, says nobody in the Gulf.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 7 2026 16:25 utc | 9

Posted by: Julian | Aug 7 2026 15:50 utc | 4
The fall of the Ottoman Empire and then divided up so the UK could exploit them all. Without the heavy hand of the Brits they would just be local fiefdoms under the thumb of the Turks.

Posted by: e-dog | Aug 7 2026 16:28 utc | 10

The agreement may give the three countries the option to intervene. Turkey may like to have the option to intervene more openly in Yemen when it suits them. 

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Aug 7 2026 16:32 utc | 11

Ah, poor Saudis … what’s a rich boy gotta do to protect his undeserved extreme wealth? Glomming onto Uncle S only led to wrack and ruin … just wait until USUK figure out how to fleece the Saudi trillions invested in the west “back” to its rightful owners … 

Posted by: Caliman | Aug 7 2026 16:49 utc | 12

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Aug 7 2026 16:32 utc | 11
 

Turkey may like to have the option to intervene more openly in Yemen when it suits them.

 
So, a “defensive” pact to attack.
 
Perhaps the Yemenis will have a say in the matter?
 
Bear in mind, they have held off a coalition of several Arab nations for a decade, forced Trump to call for a maritime ceasefire, are defying Israel, and are wreaking havoc on Saudi Arabia within its own borders.
 
Erdogan would have to be a complete fool to think he could simply make incursions – or “excursions” – there.To gain what?
 
This isn’t Syria.

Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 7 2026 16:57 utc | 13

thanks b… they are an interesting trio, lol… ksa is a fiefdom run by a few sheiks and is not any type of country with a democracy… pakistan is basically a military type dictatorship overseen by the usa and turkey, is about the closest it gets to an actual country with a semi functioning system of governance….   they are all self serving for different reasons, but this sounds like a combo of ksa wanting to free itself from the usa, while it might be the usa meddling for some other type of results… 
 
i agree with your take – it is more then likely irrelevant… 

Posted by: james | Aug 7 2026 16:58 utc | 14

The regional war was started by the Outlaw US Empire and its Zionist proxy aimed at all residents of the region not just Iran–the Greater Israel Plan is proof along with other documents. The Saudis have already been attacked by the Empire and Zionists, although not much is said about all that. Crooke provided his view on this pact and much more during his chat with Dan Davis.  IMO, it’s vitally important to recall what entities began this war because they are the true enemies of Humanity.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 7 2026 16:59 utc | 15

Thanks b. Wouldn’t trust any of these as far as I can spit.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 7 2026 17:01 utc | 16

The Cradle News, Ep 253: ‘Yemen Strikes the Gulf’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@thecradlenews/streams
 
“Saudi Arabia, Turkiye & Pakistan join forces…But against whom?”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 7 2026 17:05 utc | 17

17 corrected: 
https://www.youtube.com/@thecradlemedia/streams

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 7 2026 17:06 utc | 18

It is rather odd, isn’t it, to spend one’s time attacking others on their own turf while simultaneously wanting to be protected from everything? By others, what’s more.
 
In the last thirty days alone, Saudi Arabia has attacked Iran, Iraq, and Yemen.
 
Perhaps they wouldn’t need to go chasing after “protectors” if they realized they aren’t strong enough to play the same game as the USA?
 
The USA, which is itself discovering, along with those it supposedly protects, that it has limits?
 
I will never understand some people.

Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 7 2026 17:07 utc | 19

MBS is helping Trump keep the draft Hormuz deal out of the weekend news cycle…
 
Sunday talking heads can bloviating and Trump can have a weekend without threatening mass war crimes.

Posted by: paddy | Aug 7 2026 17:12 utc | 20

 
see the photo at the first/second link.  
 
 
 
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/2085670062426300488
MenchOsint @MenchOsint 
 
This sudden alliance is likely aimed at defending the Saudi regime after it:
– Supported the *failed* US/Israeli war on Iran.
– Wants to maintain the US-backed siege in Yemen, despite Yemeni resistance.
– Bombed Iraqi resistance movements in a joint U.S/Saudi attack.  
 
In short, after ‘f*cking around’, MBS called friends to avoid ‘finding out’
 
 
 
https://x.com/clashreport/status/2085640846972518509
Clash Report @clashreport  
 
Türkiye, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan’s new trilateral defense agreement, to be signed today, has been formally named the Mecca Agreement. 
 
The name carries clear symbolic weight, tied to Islam’s holiest city.
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 7 2026 17:15 utc | 21

@13
 
Turkey, Pakistan, and KSA are nits in the south Red Sea neighborhood compared to Egypt in 1960.  In the 1960s Egypt had its version of Vietnam in Yemen.
 
None of the three have any recognizable force projection capacity, so likely just thump sand with Turk and Paki pilots rather than sheep dipped RAF as Saudi did for years.

Posted by: paddy | Aug 7 2026 17:19 utc | 22

as Iran whipped the USA/Israel, Ansarallah will whip these limp dicks

Posted by: MarkGilmore | Aug 7 2026 17:22 utc | 23

The name carries clear symbolic weight, tied to Islam’s holiest city. 
Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 7 2026 17:15 utc | 21
 
 
The Borat Agreements
 
 

Posted by: arby | Aug 7 2026 17:25 utc | 24

It allows one more ‘option’ on the strategy and diplomatic table.

Where does “An attack on Saudi means an attack on Turkey means an attack on NATO” triangulate …somewhere imaginary possibly.

– “an armed attack carried out against any one of the three states shall be considered an attack against all of them”

Logic might reply:

“an armed attack carried out by any one of the three states shall be considered an attack by all of them”

Maybe they will try to restrain each other … ?

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 7 2026 17:27 utc | 25

I wrote that I prefer Mizrahi’s name for the agreement. 
 
I did not try to repost the link but it happened anyway.

Posted by: arby | Aug 7 2026 17:27 utc | 26

what happens according under the  Mecca agreement if Iran continues to attack USA vacated bases in any of the three treaty member countries?  <
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My take is China will back Iran to the hilt.. Iran wants to expand its territory to include Oman and Yemen.. if an attack under this treaty gives Iran a chance to expand its territory Iran may become a giant in the region.. 

Posted by: snake | Aug 7 2026 17:31 utc | 27

@Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 7 2026 17:01 utc | 16, who said:
 

Wouldn’t trust any of these as far as I can spit.

 
Exactly. Wind-blown, horse-trading hot heads, the lot of them. Not ally material.
 
@Michaelj72 post 21, who offered this quote:
 https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/2085670062426300488MenchOsint @MenchOsint  This sudden alliance is likely aimed at defending the Saudi regime after it:– Supported the *failed* US/Israeli war on Iran.– Wants to maintain the US-backed siege in Yemen, despite Yemeni resistance.– Bombed Iraqi resistance movements in a joint U.S/Saudi attack.   In short, after ‘f*cking around’, MBS called friends to avoid ‘finding out’ 
 
That is likely to be 90% of the basis for this deal. Wonder how much $ the Saudis had to pony up to save their ass.
 
I wonder how long before  UAE, Kuwait, etc. join in.  Of course, the deal will be contingent upon the resumed flow of oil revenues, and … at the moment, Iran is in control of that. What political price will Iran charge in return for the resumption of oil revenues?

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Aug 7 2026 17:33 utc | 28

Sounds like they all want to use the others. Pakistan has an agreement with Saudia Arabia and hasn’t attacked Iran when SA came under fire.  Turkey has imperial ambitions throughout the old ottoman Empire which means SA is in its target list.  Pakistan needs allies in its fight which as noted is not in the others interest.
The ongoing collapse of pax Americana is chaotic.  There was plenty of pre ww1 alliances which came to nothing, and others that meant everything. 
 
In my view Turkey will come out on top.  It already has syria under its thumb and Iraq and Qatar are mostly as well, at least the northern part of Iraq for now.  Pakistan is probably going to end up ruined and SA will be someone’s cash cow, likely under an Israeli US sphere of influence with a Turkish share.  Iran is its own pole with its Eurasian allies.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 7 2026 17:36 utc | 29

The Mecca MOU is to fill a void that has resulted from the withdrawal of America from the region and the failure of American protection.  It is now every man for himself .
 
This last turn of the war saw barflies braying for Iran to attack Israel. It was the US military strategy for Israel to draw the fire.
But Iran chose to attrite the defences of the 22 US Gulf bases. Starting with their radars ( the eyes). The closest bases were shit down first, the Jordon, but Saudi was wisely left to the Houthis. Sweet revenge.
 
Iran is now normalizing the SofH and a new ” Gulf Order” is emerging. Hence the Mecca ” makes us all feel safer” Agreement.
 
Iran’s final strategy was clear from the start, even if everybody didn’t see it. Trump is blaming Hegseth for misinforming him about the US missile reserves, but Trump had to know from others what the real situation was. The Trump team just played it wrong and Iran won.
 
So those like CatDog who believe in American exceptionalism, not this time.
 
How to go from here is the Trump dilemma. The Gulf states petrodollars gone and a quickly becoming disparaged electorate to deal with. Playing tariff ping pong with China over AI and chips won’t win it for Trump. He looks more and more like a loser. He pulls JD Vance’s name out of the hat to replace him. What message does he want to send to the Zionist tech barons?

Posted by: Bingo | Aug 7 2026 17:37 utc | 30

Tensions have reached a boiling point in Europe after Turkish warplanes and spy drones launched a massive wave of airspace violations over the Aegean Sea, sparking a tense mid-air showdown. Greek military officials confirmed a staggering 17 separate airspace breaches occurred in a single day on Thursday (August 6), forcing Athens to scramble fighter jets to intercept the intruders. (Daily Express)

All parties to the treaty have ongoing tension with adjacent states. That between Greece and Turkey being one of the conflicts with great potential to draw in others. Greece could have the backing of Israel, France and multiple EU countries.

Posted by: Paul Cockshott | Aug 7 2026 17:41 utc | 31

It has been a long time coming … a new “Quad” to include Egypt. … written about this many moons ago … the three states have in common … are sick and tired of Netanyahu and the refusal of Big Satan to defend Arab and Islamic states. European hypocrisy added to the mix.

Posted by: Oui | Aug 7 2026 17:44 utc | 32

Turkey cannot leave NATO, it would be suicidal. Firstly, all its systems and protocols and weapons etc are NATO standards, it is not possible to change this in the short run, and Turkey could be effectively blocked and left without supplies. Secondly, without Western backing its position is untenable in Cyprus, and its Kurdish question would escalate out of control, to say the least. Turkey is profiting from the Western decomposition, but this has clear limits. All what is doing has some way or another a gain for its Western friends, yes, they would prefer a more neat winnings, but as for now, it’s pretty fine. Turkey is a Western player, no one inside Turkey wants to change that.

Posted by: Noway | Aug 7 2026 17:47 utc | 33

Jolani’s Syria belongs to Sunni Islam … in particular Türkiye and Saudi Arabia … UAE belongs to Israel and the U.S. … the king of Jordan about to lose out on the Al Aqsa Mosque holy shrine … Pakistan owns the Islamic nuclear bomb gifted by good old USA to offset the nuclear arms of India.

Posted by: Oui | Aug 7 2026 17:49 utc | 34

“peace and prosperity” – the head-chopper MBS, the snake in the grass Erdogan, and the coup d’etat chief and thief Sharif. Great company!!
 
 
 
https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/2085742016999157874
Middle East Observer  @ME_Observer_ 
 
⚡️⭕️ Turkey: President Erdoğan says joint defense agreement with Saudi Arabia and Pakistan does not target any country and is open to participation of all countries seeking peace and prosperity. (Al Mayadeen Breaking)
 
———————
 
https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/2085688850249027599
Seyed Mohammad Marandi  @s_m_marandi 
 
The Epstein Coalition failed to shield the Saudi regime. Trump’s regional allies won’t save bin Salman either. The Saudis have one move left: stop acting as Trump’s airbase against Iran, Yemen, and Iraq – or watch their critical infrastructure erased, fast and for good.
 
———————
 
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/yemeni-source–any-saudi-deployment-toward-yemen-will-be-tar
Yemeni source: Any Saudi deployment toward Yemen will be targeted 
A Yemeni source tells Al Mayadeen that Sanaa has established a new deterrence equation under which any Saudi military deployment or movement toward Yemen will be directly targeted. 
 
A Yemeni source told Al Mayadeen on Friday that Sanaa has established a new military equation inside Yemen, one the source said “will become more firmly entrenched by the day”. 
 
Under this equation, the source explained, any Saudi military presence or movement of Saudi forces toward Yemen, or from Yemen, will be directly targeted. 
 
The source said Sanaa intends to use the new equation to secure a decisive outcome on the battlefield, sever the links between Saudi-backed forces, and prevent them from maneuvering between provinces…….
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 7 2026 17:53 utc | 35

Re: “From Iranintl …”
 
Come on … worthless … the Pahlavi mouthpiece … 🥶 

Posted by: Oui | Aug 7 2026 17:56 utc | 36

So many troops milling around… the pact is probably just to advertise to own troops who they are not supposed to shoot at.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 7 2026 17:57 utc | 37

Maybe they want to restaurate the Osman Empire together with Syria, Lybia and muslim parts of old India. Religion seems to matter. The rest is entangled

Posted by: Haus Habakuk | Aug 7 2026 17:58 utc | 38

Well, I have seen it said that Turkey maybe next in sites of USreal. It is a threat by virtue of its existence. Each of them are threats if they are unwilling to see reason and cooperate.
In the short term it makes some sense though no doubt USreal will see this agreement as an implicity threat of resistance.
But in the longer term the problem with security agreements is they give false sense of security.
It Trumps world the weak need to die to feed the strong.

Posted by: jared | Aug 7 2026 18:01 utc | 39

Re: the head-chopper MBS, the snake in the grass Erdogan, and the coup d’etat chief and thief Sharif.
Correct … these states are in full control of terror mercenaries … the guerrilla wars of the 21st century. Now united. Sidelining Washington and Brussels … clarity, hoping this succeeds against all odds. Looking for official statements from Moscow and Beijing. 😄

Posted by: Oui | Aug 7 2026 18:02 utc | 40

The emerging Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Pakistan defence partnership reflects a significant shift in regional security dynamics. Rather than relying exclusively on traditional Western security guarantees, key regional powers are increasingly pursuing indigenous defence cooperation to address shared threats. While the exact provisions of the agreement remain unknown, the political symbolism is considerable. Bringing together the Gulf’s largest economy, NATO’s second largest military and the Muslim world’s only nuclear power signals an effort to build a more coordinated regional security architecture. Whether the pact evolves into a formal collective defence arrangement or remains focused on military cooperation and strategic coordination will determine its long term geopolitical significance.

Posted by: Oui | Aug 7 2026 18:07 utc | 41

In response to

Come on … worthless … the Pahlavi mouthpiece …  
Posted by: Oui | Aug 7 2026 17:56 utc | 36

 
Just like Reuters and ZH, Iranintl is a timely aggregator of news and I encourage you to attack the message if you want but not the messenger.
 
Yes, they have a Pahlavi piece that you have just given cred to but I didn’t share it, did I?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 7 2026 18:08 utc | 42

Saudis have money
Posted by: Hugo | Aug 7 2026 15:44 utc | 1
 
Saudis want nukes. They keep saying it. If Us doesn’t give them, Paki will. Maybe Paki wants more weapon deals with China, new customers. Erdo wants a market for his family drones and his toxic vegetables which Eu and Russia don’t want. He also has very cheap (free today, delayed payments) energy from Russia. This is clearly against Iran, just another Nato proxy contraption mixed with approval or business interests from Russia and China. The s400s might end in Saudi, they have great relations with Putin even after running from Brics. Which still has its doors closed and they don’t say why.

Posted by: rk | Aug 7 2026 18:10 utc | 43

Turkey leaving NATO? Before this happens the great Pasha Erdogan would have to sack his entire military high level officers. Their life and career is built on the NATO scheme and protocol like their mindset and thinking. This is one of the main reasons Erdogan could never really reform his state and military. Too many officers are rooted in NATO thinking.

Posted by: Aarsupilani | Aug 7 2026 18:21 utc | 44

Just two years ago …
 
▪️ NATO: Next Battleground South China Sea
 
▪️ Musing About Europe Without NATO | MofA |
 
▪️ Slow Death of NATO
 
▪️ Terror & Hate Production Entity Eretz Yisrael
 
[…]
 
▪️ Trump#45 tried to prepare NATO membership for Israel – Jan. 2021
 
▪️ Nuclear Umbrella for Saudi Kingdom | May 2025 |

Posted by: Oui | Aug 7 2026 18:22 utc | 45

Turkey leaving NATO? 

 
I can’t imagine Turkey would ever want to leave NATO, certainly not when NATO is the protective shield behind which Turkey can indulge its Greater Turan fantasy…the primary obstacle to which happens to be…Iran.
 
In fact, this pact might just constitute the largest de facto (if not de jure) expansion of NATO ever.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 7 2026 18:28 utc | 46

Re: psychohistorian | Aug 7 2026 18:08 utc | 42
 
IranIntl with Saudi funding … expression of the Sunni-Shia divide as greatest motivator for wars in Middle East … exploited by Israel and the West … divide and conquer … Pahlavi LHAO

Posted by: Oui | Aug 7 2026 18:30 utc | 47

Tom Pfotzer@28:
 
“Wonder how much $ the Saudis had to pay up to save their ass?”
 
Yes. The Cradle News @18 does a pretty good deep-dive on it and concludes it’s largely a political nothing-burger.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 7 2026 18:35 utc | 48

Excellent summary that makes sense …

 
The signing of the Makkah Joint Defense Agreement on August 7, 2026, represents a watershed moment in the evolving security architecture of West Asia and the broader Eurasian continent. Convened at the Al-Safa Palace by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, and Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, the treaty establishes a binding mutual-defense alliance unprecedented in the modern history of the Islamic world: an armed attack against any one signatory will be regarded as an attack against all three. The ceremony’s location in Islam’s holiest city signaled that this is an alliance anchored in shared civilizational identity, yet its implications ripple far beyond the House of Islam, reshaping the strategic calculus of every Eurasian power from the Atlantic to the Pacific.
 
The pact did not materialize in a vacuum. It was catalyzed by the collapse of the American-led security order in the Gulf following the U.S.-Israeli war against Iran, which began on February 28, 2026, with Operation Epic Fury and the assassination of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. Washington’s subsequent inability—or unwillingness—to shield its Gulf partners from Iranian retaliation, including strikes on Saudi energy infrastructure and Qatar’s Ras Laffan gas facilities, shattered long-standing confidence in U.S. deterrence. Riyadh’s decision to formalize a trilateral bond with Islamabad and Ankara, rather than waiting for an American security guarantee that might never arrive, is the clearest evidence yet that regional powers are now writing their own insurance policies.

Posted by: Oui | Aug 7 2026 18:38 utc | 49

Where does Jamal Kashoggi, the Saudi dissident made famous in 2018, fit into this confusing jigsaw puzzle?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 7 2026 18:41 utc | 50

What is called British influence in Arabia is, more accurately described as Raj influence. 
It wss from Bombay and Delhi that Britain ruled Arabia. And they often used agents, particularly at the lower but crucial  junior officer and NCO level who were Indian Army muslims.  
Pakistani influence iSaudi Arabia is a reversion to the status quo in the early sixties before the US took over Britain’s role as the ultimate defence not against ‘foreign’ aggression but against the real enemies of the Emirs, Kings, Sultans such as MBS and MBZ, namely the Arab people. 

Posted by: bevin | Aug 7 2026 18:42 utc | 51

In response to

It is interesting that psychohistorian insists on continuing to bring Iran Intl items onto this site and defends doing so when it is common knowledge that the sole purpose of that ‘news’ organization is to spew anti Iran propaganda. 
Posted by: BG | Aug 7 2026 18:42 utc | 52

 
Another fucking barflea attacking the messenger instead of the message…..I have to ask why?
Do you scream every time a barfly quotes Reuters or ZH?
 
I pick what I share from those sites and expect readers to appreciate the timely information in spite of the source bias in the words.  That is done here all the time but there seems to be a contingent against Iranintl  but not against other biased sites, why?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 7 2026 18:51 utc | 52

@ Sebgo | Aug 7 2026 17:07 utc | 19
 
quote –

 It is rather odd, isn’t it, to spend one’s time attacking others on their own turf while simultaneously wanting to be protected from everything? By others, what’s more.In the last thirty days alone, Saudi Arabia has attacked Iran, Iraq, and Yemen.Perhaps they wouldn’t need to go chasing after “protectors” if they realized they aren’t strong enough to play the same game as the USA?

 
and @ michaelj72 | Aug 7 2026 17:53 utc | 35
 
quote – 

“peace and prosperity” – the head-chopper MBS, the snake in the grass Erdogan, and the coup d’etat chief and thief Sharif. Great company!!

 
i agree with the above two posters and quotes… 
 
@ malenkov | Aug 7 2026 18:28 utc | 46
 
interesting conjecture on your part… as we both know, erdogan is quite happy to play either side off against the other.. he is one very slippery dude… but i can’t see the advantage for him here.. how is turkeys acceptance into the european union going anyway??  at the same time turkeys armed forces are perhaps the strongest outside of russia in the area…  erdogan may like to play poker with his chances, but i can’t see him lasting or winning indefinitely.. he has had a good run though!  i would be curious to read more on how you see turkey here… they are definitely a strong player on some levels, and yet they seem easily exposed to manipulation – financial and political too… 

Posted by: james | Aug 7 2026 18:52 utc | 53

If Iran ever had any illusions about Saudi “rapprochement” and Pakistani “mediation”, those delusions ought to be dead by now.
 
I can’t imagine Iran ever had any illusions about Turkey, what with that country’s cozy relationship with Zionists and other anti-Shia terrorists.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 7 2026 18:54 utc | 54

@ james | Aug 7 2026 18:52 utc | 55
 
Aren’t you confusing the EU with NATO?

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 7 2026 18:55 utc | 55

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Posted by: Bob Bob | Aug 7 2026 18:59 utc | 56

Maybe I’m being over-suspicious, but I can’t imagine this “deal” has been made without US encouragement, or at least not objecting to it. If Israel felt threatened by it, it wouldn’t have been allowed, therefore Israel doesn’t feel threatened by it.
 
So what is the ulterior motive behind this?
 
Does it allow the deployment of “peacekeeping” troops from the other two parties, should any one of the regimes involved come under threat from populist uprisings, labelled as “terrorism”?
 
There’s a distinct whiff of rodent…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 7 2026 19:05 utc | 57

Where does Jamal Kashoggi, the Saudi dissident made famous in 2018, fit into this confusing jigsaw puzzle?
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 7 2026 18:41 utc | 50

 
He’s in bits, allegedly.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 7 2026 19:07 utc | 58

@ Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 7 2026 18:41 utc | 50
Al-Quaida was out of the equation ever since around 2018

Posted by: Haus Habakuk | Aug 7 2026 19:09 utc | 59

Re: Borat 

 
anyone who references that unfunny racist hatemonger  Sasha Baron Cohen immediately loses credibility. 
cohen  is also a fanatic genocider.
 
https://www.reversecanarymission.org/person/sacha-baron-cohen

Posted by: Exile | Aug 7 2026 19:13 utc | 60

Deep Dive on Cohen‘s  genociding and ties to Mossad
 
https://www.thecanary.co/editorial/2024/10/28/borat-jimmy-fallon-us-election/

Posted by: Exile | Aug 7 2026 19:17 utc | 61

@ malenkov | Aug 7 2026 18:55 utc | 57
 
well, i don’t think i am! i believe turkey is a part of nato, while they have had aspirations to be a part of the euro union, but always get the cold shoulder..

Posted by: james | Aug 7 2026 19:18 utc | 62

Iran Intl has been actively involved in espionage and regime change operations against Iran. It makes one wonder why psychohistorian is so fond of it.
 
Posted by: BG | Aug 7 2026 18:45 utc | 53
 
The thread up till your comment suggest he’s made it quite clear why.
 
Yer barking up the wrong tree. Just sayin.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 7 2026 19:21 utc | 63

Its history repeating it self.
Broad arrow movements, across the map, or globe.
 
The fascists are on the march.
 
It was’nt too late 10 years ago when i warned people here, but its too late now.
 
Sadly.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 7 2026 19:21 utc | 64

yup… the USReali dream of an “Arab NATO” on display.
The SA Mecca will dissolve by Israeli order.
 
It’s obvious the site was always just used as a way of controlling mass population.
Now they’ll have another way.
 
If anyone doubts this… just what exactly did these 2 particular nations ever do/are doing about the Al-Aqsa Mosque?
 
Does anyone ever even remember that Oct 7 was called:  The Al-Aqsa Flood?
 
Nope everyone of those Zio Arab nations to date allow it to be disrupted, invaded, terrorized, & vandalized.
 
No one comment here that they’ll be a huge threat to the Western Zio ruling elites by the masses of believers when Mecca is taken over.  Cuz it’ll be crickets,  just like now.
 
Had Russia not been in Zioland themselves, they would have decimated Turkey when the first worthless “Baykar Bayraktar” drone flew into Russia in 2022.
 
Only possible course correction will be if China floods & prevails in West Asia goods & monetary central banking throughout West Asia.
 
Irans only chance now is to load up on a few hundred Nukes and recoil,  isolate themselves and be the ME North Korea.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 7 2026 19:23 utc | 65

From Iranintl with my comment following
 

US moves to cut Iran’s financial networks, State Department says

 

The US Treasury took steps Friday to dismantle currency exchange houses and shell companies that helped Iran secretly move hundreds of millions of dollars through the international financial system, State Department spokesperson Tommy Pigott said.
The United States is taking decisive action to cut the financial lifelines that sustain Iran’s ruling elite,” Pigott said in a statement. He said the US would continue working with partners “to close every avenue Iran uses to fund its destabilizing activities.”

 
 
This is a critical part of the financial challenge facing the China/Russia/Iran axis of resistance…..a replacement for the BIS and associated Foreign Exchange market/private casino that Iran is currently forced to deal with.
I keep wanting to see China create a BIS financial plumbing utility with an associated foreign exchange “process” for Iran to not be subject to the empire finance jackboot.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 7 2026 19:34 utc | 66

Written by “AI” of course.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 7 2026 19:35 utc | 67

I have hoped a coalition of peoples and nations of Egypt, West and Central Asia would unite in order to defend Palestinians, Lebanon, and Iran from the US and its warrior vassal Israel. Instead it appears despotic governments are forming loose alliances to shore up their regional dominance as a response to the diminishing ability of the US to exercise power in the region. A diminishing ability discovered by Iran’s strategic defense as a response to the sneak attacks from Israel and the US. From my point of view Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are usually bested by their opponents when they wage aggressive warfare, although Pakistan’s Chinese fighter jets prevailed in a recent skirmish with India’s French fighter jets. Türkiye’s military is powerful on paper, but recent examples of its effectiveness are against domestic threats, usually Kurds, rather than any peer enemies. In the past Türkiye bested Greece, whose belligerence, like that of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, exceeds capability. An Arabian alliance with Türkiye appears odd, since the animosities of past Ottoman rule probably still exist, but Türkiye has the industrial resources Saudi Arabia needs if it is going to wean itself from US arms. Pakistan has a lot of potential, but is such a corrupt society it is difficult to understand why it has any leverage until one remembers it is a nuclear power. I doubt these three nations will do anything more than create circular investments in arms for energy to fortify their autocracies. 

Posted by: Keme | Aug 7 2026 19:44 utc | 68

Wherever the British or any European drew a border, that border should be erased.
 
This particular scheme is an attempt by the Outhouse of Sod to maintain their FAKE fiefdom by pretending it has help in defending its British imposed Monarchy.
 
I hear Egypt is playing stalking horse and asking for a defense agreement with Iran. 
 
I hear Iran is going to conquer Kuwait.
 
Some choice Arab arable lands belonging to Yemen is occupied by the Outhouse of Sod
 
The Kurds should have their own (land locked) country.

Posted by: Hot Carl | Aug 7 2026 19:48 utc | 69

This defense treaty sounds more like all the crypto-Zionists coming out of the closet and showing true colors.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 7 2026 19:49 utc | 70

RE: Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 7 2026 19:34 utc | 68
 
Agreed.  They always and have been forever tracking, tracing as best as possible.
 
Think something new in that arena is possibly being developed to assist:
 
https://www.tasnimnews.ir/en/news/2026/08/07/3665407/iran-china-seek-to-expand-strategic-trade-cooperation
“Iran, China Seek to Expand Strategic Trade Cooperation”

“August, 07, 2026 – 09:19
| Economy news

 
EXCERT ONLY:
 

“Mohammad Sadeq Mofatteh, Iran’s Deputy Minister of Industry, Mines and Trade, held a meeting with Li Chenggang, China’s International Trade Representative and Vice Minister of Commerce, in Tehran on Thursday.”
“Mofatteh said Iran is ready to use the two countries’ complementary capacities to expand cooperation in joint investment, production and value-chain development. He said the revised version of the 1991 Iran-China trade agreement has been finalized after several rounds of expert-level negotiations and is ready for signing.“
 

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 7 2026 19:52 utc | 71

@ james | Aug 7 2026 19:18 utc | 64
 
You’re right, of course, about Turkey’s frustrated EU ambitions. The Euros may be evil but they’re not entirely stupid, and don’t want a basket case of such great size. (They also don’t want Ukronazistan.) But as security arrangements are concerned, the question of EU accession isn’t terribly relevant.
 
Turkey is, however, a valued (by the USA) NATO member — something we learned no later than 1961. Nor could Turkey leave NATO even if it wanted to; that would be yielding the strategic floor to archenemy Greece.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 7 2026 19:54 utc | 72

How long before western entities decide to seize Gulf State assets parked in western institutions….for safekeeping of course?  Anyone think Gulf States will be allowed to liquidate en masse western sovereign debt, crashing treasuries and euro debt markets?  What happens when the fiefdoms of the inbred arab sheikhs are slowly eroded and then swallowed up by their more powerful neighbors….and the yids are pinning down the Ottomans defending what is left of Syria?   First domino to fall…..Kuwait?   Crack open another 24 ouncer and contemplate the carnage……
 
 

Posted by: 24ouncer | Aug 7 2026 19:57 utc | 73

Just 11 years ago …

Formation of a new military alliance | 2015 |
 
In December 2015, Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir told media in Paris, “It is time that the Islamic world take a stand, and they have done that by creating a coalition to push back and confront the terrorists and those who promote their violent ideologies.”
 
The joint operations center to coordinate counter-terror efforts is to set to be based in Jeddah and the member-states would target “any terrorist organization, not just ISIL, in countries like Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt, and Afghanistan.” The Saudi foreign minister also noted that all operations would be carried out in accordance with local laws and in cooperation with the international community. Thus, operations won’t require any new national legislation, and cooperation with the international community can be understood as an extension of existing intelligence sharing channels. The original announcement caught some member off-guard, but since 2015 the number of member states has grown from 34 to 41, with initially reluctant countries like Oman and Pakistan eventually joining. Nonetheless, IMAFT’s operational blueprint remains vague.
 
The impetus for IMAFT developed at the end of the Obama administration as the US’s traditional Middle Eastern allies became concerned that America was increasingly reluctant to act forcefully in regional conflicts. However, after the formation of IMAFT the US offered a note of support. Ashton Carter, then US Secretary of Defense, reacted with cautious optimism on a visit to Turkey: “It appears [IMAFT] is very much in line with something we’ve been urging for quite some time, which is greater involvement in the campaign to combat ISIL by Sunni Arab countries.”
 
In addition to rising threats from terror groups, IMAFT was formed against a backdrop of assertive postures in the region by revanchist states like Russia and Iran. Many observers view the creation of IMAFT as mechanism to consolidate Saudi-aligned military power in the face of Iranian ascendance. Indeed, IMAFT was announced during the final stage of the internationally brokered Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action to halt Iran’s nuclear program—a deal that Riyadh worries could reorder regional power dynamics.

 
See earlier efforts of the West for containment of the USSR – Baghdad Pact.
 
Timing of the Makkah Defense Pact is noteworthy … last call for Tehran to make a deal to end hostilities. Pressure building …
 
Recall HRC seen as the darling of the Muslim Brotherhood in Qatar and Erdogan’s Türkiye … the Arab Spring and coup d’état to remove Assad … Bill’s Foundation reaping the millions in benefits from wealthy Gulf States.
 
The attempted coup in 2015 against Erdogan had the smell of NATO support  … still Türkiye remained key member of the “defense” alliance … EU Association membership still denied.
 
Qatar was the big funder of Hamas in Gaza.

Posted by: Oui | Aug 7 2026 19:58 utc | 74

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 7 2026 18:51 utc | 54
 
 
ph, I’m with you on this.
 
For a long time I excluded Iranintl from the searches knowing full well that it was an anti Iran propaganda outlet.
 
I appreciate your timely updates from various sites. Also, appreciate the blurb that you provide, so that I don’t have to click the link and visit the site.
 
News aggregation and analysis are the reasons that I’m here.
 
Thanks.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 7 2026 19:58 utc | 75

I hear Egypt is playing stalking horse and asking for a defense agreement with Iran. 
 
Posted by: Hot Carl | Aug 7 2026 19:48 utc | 71

 
Egypt is a (com)pliant Zio slave and I suppose we should be surprised that it didn’t sign on with Turkey, Pakistan, and KSA. But it’s no secret where Egypt’s loyalties lie.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 7 2026 19:58 utc | 76

In December 2015, Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir told media in Paris, “It is time that the Islamic world take a stand, and they have done that by creating a coalition to push back and confront the terrorists and those who promote their violent ideologies.”

 
Eleven years later and that’s still worth a good belly laugh!

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 7 2026 20:02 utc | 77

Re: Borat 
 
 
anyone who references that unfunny racist hatemonger Sasha Baron Cohen immediately loses credibility. 
cohen is also a fanatic genocider.
 
https://www.reversecanarymission.org/person/sacha-baron-cohen
 
Posted by: Exile | Aug 7 2026 19:13 utc | 62
Thank you.  This racial supremacist comedian has been forced on us by Zio Hollywood for far too long.  The character Borat is a Zio caracature of ordinary people in the ME.  Making him from Kazakhstan was just a light cover for this overwhelmingly racist character.  
From Borat he went to Bruno another racial stereotype of another ethnic group, this time Germans.  
Nobody watches this POS, but he’s a Zio so he just keeps coming back.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 7 2026 20:05 utc | 78

lol, references state Trump sold it for $20 million after refurbishing.  Somebody’s cheatin the gubmint.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Aug 7 2026 20:15 utc | 79

From Borat he went to Bruno another racial stereotype of another ethnic group, this time Germans.  Nobody watches this POS, but he’s a Zio so he just keeps coming back.  
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 7 2026 20:05 utc | 80
 

 
Ahenobarbus, I recall him in another one: Ricky Bobby.

I enjoyed the movie, not because his POS performance, but some of the one-liners.
Here are couple of mangled quotes:
 
“if you’re not first, you’re last”
 
“dear baby Jesus, 8 pounds, 4 ounce, 21 inch, baby Jesus”

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 7 2026 20:18 utc | 80

Some interesting headlines in The New Arab …
 
Top Mossad officials sacked over failed Iran regime change plan, as Netanyahu accused of shifting blame
 
 
Leaked documents reveal Israel’s Elbit offered the UAE billions of dollars in drones and surveillance systems as military ties deepened after Abraham Accords.
 
The newspaper said the documents were leaked from one executive’s personal Gmail account before later being published by a hacking group linked to Iranian intelligence.

Posted by: Oui | Aug 7 2026 20:19 utc | 81

@james,
I left a reply for you over at Iran open thread.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 7 2026 20:20 utc | 82

I enjoyed the movie, not because his POS performance, but some of the one-liners.
Here are couple of mangled quotes:
 
“if you’re not first, you’re last”
 
“dear baby Jesus, 8 pounds, 4 ounce, 21 inch, baby Jesus”
 
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 7 2026 20:18 utc | 82
I actually did enjoy that one, but like step bros it was all Farrell and Reilly.  
Anyone could have played the post mod French driver.  This POS got the part for obvious reasons: he makes the Zios laugh with supremacist joy.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 7 2026 20:23 utc | 83

Re: malenkov | Aug 7 2026 20:02 utc | 79
 
They took a stand to overthrow Assad using terrorist mercenaries … and succeeded with support of  Türkiye-US-UK-Israel and Ukrainian specialists in drone warfare. Alliance of convenience?

Posted by: Oui | Aug 7 2026 20:24 utc | 84

@ Ahenobarbus | Aug 7 2026 20:05 utc | 80
 
Jon Stewart has his moments, I suppose (although maybe not as a comedian), but I can’t help but think that Jewish comedy died with Gilda Radner. Certainly Seinfeld and his gang were one long ugly death rattle…

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 7 2026 20:25 utc | 85

let it be so.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Aug 7 2026 20:26 utc | 86

lol, references state Trump sold it for $20 million after refurbishing.  Somebody’s cheatin the gubmint.
 
Posted by: Not Ewe | Aug 7 2026 20:15 utc | 81

 
Umm, what are you referring to?

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 7 2026 20:28 utc | 87

sales history of Khashoggi’s big yacht.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Aug 7 2026 20:29 utc | 88

 Surely the region would be far more stable if Jordan, Kuwait & UAE Isntreal exited stage left….
Posted by: Julian | Aug 7 2026 15:50 utc | 4
 
Fixed it.

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 7 2026 20:35 utc | 89

I would not say that Iran has good relations with Turkey.

Posted by: SG | Aug 7 2026 20:41 utc | 90

Indonesia is the largest Muslim country.
 
This is beginning to be deja vu all over again.  The world stumbled into WWI in 1914 with aneerily similar prolifertion of Alliances that pledged to go to war if their partners were attacked.
 
But then, y’all knew tht already.

Posted by: Student of History | Aug 7 2026 20:46 utc | 91

If the global dynamic shifts such that the U.S. loses the military leverage to enforce the use of the U.S. dollar, and international holders simultaneously dump their dollar reserves, it would trigger a specific macroeconomic phenomenon known as a balance of payments crisis and domestic hyperinflation.
When foreign nations divest from a reserve currency, those trillions of paper notes do not disappear; instead, they flow back to their point of origin to purchase physical assets, commodities, or equities. This massive influx of capital back into the domestic economy would permanently alter the American financial landscape.
 
1. Domestic Hyperinflation and Supply Shocks
 
 
* The Flood of Dollars: Trillions of dollars currently held by foreign central banks and corporations would be sent back to the U.S. to buy up anything of tangible value, including real estate, corporate stocks, and domestic companies.
* Devaluation of Purchasing Power: As the domestic supply of dollars exponentially multiplies with no matching increase in physical goods, the purchasing power of the currency inside the U.S. would crater. [1, 2] 
* The Import Price Spike: Because the U.S. relies heavily on foreign manufacturing, the cost of importing everyday items—from electronics to food—would skyrocket instantly, as foreign producers would demand non-dollar payment. [1, 3] 
 
 
2. The Sovereignty Debt Crisis
 
 
* Unfunded Deficits: The U.S. government funds its massive budget deficits by issuing Treasury bonds, which foreign nations have historically been forced or incentivized to buy. [3, 4] 
* Inability to Borrow: If the world dumps the dollar, no external entity will buy U.S. debt. The government would be forced to fund its operations entirely through direct currency creation (printing money), accelerating the hyperinflationary spiral. [3, 5] 
* Interest Rate Spike: To try and attract investors back, the Federal Reserve would be forced to raise interest rates to unprecedented heights, effectively freezing the domestic housing market and crushing consumer credit.
 
3. Structural Re-Industralization and Resource Wars
 
 
* The Loss of the “Exorbitant Privilege”: For decades, the U.S. enjoyed the unique advantage of printing money to buy real goods from other countries. A dollar collapse forces the nation to pivot from a consumer-driven economy to a survival-driven production economy.
* Resource Rationing: Lacking the ability to simply buy minerals like rare earths from automated global supply chains, the U.S. would have to aggressively ration its remaining domestic stockpiles to critical infrastructure and agricultural needs.
* Export-Driven Survival: Paradoxically, a severely weakened dollar makes domestic goods incredibly cheap for foreigners. The U.S. would be forced to export its raw food, energy, and remaining manufactured goods to acquire stable foreign assets, sacrificing domestic consumption. 
 
 4. Splintering of Global Trade Infrastructure
 
 
* A Fragmented Currency System: Trade would not instantly shift to a single alternative like the Chinese Yuan, as strict state controls limit global trust in Beijing. Instead, the world would fracture into regional trading blocks.
* The Rise of Hard Assets: International settlements for high-value goods (like oil or minerals) would revert to hard, un-fakeable assets, resulting in a massive global rush toward gold, physical commodities, and decentralized digital networks. 

Posted by: Hot Carl | Aug 7 2026 20:51 utc | 92

SG at 92: probably not but they have one thing in common, viz that the jews in the illegal statelet view both as obstacles to their greater israel project and thus they need to be dealt with. Just like the present situation where war criminal Netanyahu has managed to get the US to fight the war against Iran while the jews sit it out and continue the genocide in gaza and its war crime in lebanon and the world pretend that its not happening.

Posted by: nisses | Aug 7 2026 20:56 utc | 93

Just preliminary preparation for the upcoming   Sunni vs Shi’ite war, Israel is trying to get their Saudi vassal MLB to get the muslims to take each other out. Just like the engineered war in Ukraine to pit the west against the east.

Posted by: witness mathias | Aug 7 2026 20:57 utc | 94

Es una Santa Alianza del islam reaccionario contra el islam revolucionario. 

Posted by: Frasco | Aug 7 2026 20:59 utc | 95

A trinity of beholden nations. What does it accomplish?……… not much.

Posted by: Upsidedowndingo | Aug 7 2026 21:10 utc | 96

Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Pakistan meet as Ankara pushes for a security pact | MEE – 21 March 2026 |
 
Turkish sources familiar with the issue previously told Middle East Eye that Ankara was also trying to bring Egypt into the arrangement. The sources said the agreement would not mirror the guarantees and commitments of Nato, but would instead serve as a security platform to enable greater cooperation in the defence industry and broader defence matters.

Posted by: Oui | Aug 7 2026 21:19 utc | 97

The Ottoman Empire re-emerging.

Posted by: TomOfTheWoods | Aug 7 2026 21:32 utc | 98

It does look as if this mutual defence agreement signed by Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Turkey is an attempt to surround Iran on three sides, and block any regional military aspirations (including defending or assisting Yemen or Hezbollah in Lebanon) that country may have.
 
At the same time, as B notes, all three signatories have major internal security issues and disputes with their neighbours that their fellow signatories have no interests / national security interests in and which would sap their own resources were they to get involved.
 
Perhaps in a year’s time, this agreement will be just as useless as past US promises of military support and assistance to the Sunni monarchies in the Middle East. The moment just after Saudi Arabia decides to attack Yemen again, or Turkey crosses into Iraq to wallop another Kurdish separatist group, or Pakistan and India have another spat over Kashmir, will be the crucial test for this agreement.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Aug 7 2026 21:39 utc | 99

Where does Jamal Kashoggi, the Saudi dissident made famous in 2018, fit into this confusing jigsaw puzzle?Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 7 2026 18:41 utc | 50

 He’s in bits, allegedly.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 7 2026 19:07 utc | 60
 
***********
 
Oh… and the convenient bonus is that if the pieces are surreptitiously trimmed they can be made to fit any preconceived picture the artist has in mind.

Posted by: General Factotum | Aug 7 2026 21:40 utc | 100