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August 9, 2026
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2026-169

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Use as open (not related to the wars in Ukraine and Iran) thread …

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Sorry b it’s about Iran Ukraine and the wider war they are fronts of so posting here. 
 
The so called ‘fringe’ talking heads and thinkers  of the Waste are continuing the slow U-turn (whilst pretending they don’t have a reverse gear by threatening Armageddon by nukes!). 
 
This process started with TopCat and his odyssey to VVP and the Kremlin, the various professors of war Sachs and Mearsheimer, the ex colonels and intelligence bods  Ritter and co.
 
The public assassination of Charlie Kirk who was going to railroad the whole Maga/TP/‘Middle’ voting young.  He had figured out the shapeshifters and was exposing them. 
 
Anyway here is one saying what many of us here have for years. 
 

 
 

@apocalypseos
14h

Patrik Baab (@PatrikBaabOG) lays out how the Iran war proves that multipolar powers, through Iran’s alliance with China and Russia, can confront the United States. Economic strength has moved to Russia, China, and Southeast Asia; the West’s bankrupt system can no longer prevail and risks nuclear Armageddon to stave off financial collapse. “The Iran war shows that the powers of the multipolar world, like Iran, are strong enough to go into a fight with the United States. The United States cannot win. They cannot win this war because Iran, China, and the Russian Federation are working together. The economic power is shifting away from Europe to Russia, China, and Southeast Asia. The West does not have the economic power anymore to win this war against the multipolar world. It is impossible. They can lead the whole world into a nuclear Armageddon. That is possible. They must go into this war, or the whole financial system will break down.” The Atlanticist establishment is cornered. Only nuclear Armageddon remains as a tool to prop up a bankrupt financial system. The only way out is to accept the new paradigm grounded in cooperation with Eurasia—or annihilation.

 

Aug 8, 2026 · 9:59 PM UTC

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 9 2026 12:26 utc | 1

Yeah. We know.
 
 
 
https://thecradle.co/articles/wikipedia-co-founder-says-encyclopedia-compromised-by-cia
 
“Wikipedia co-founder says encyclopedia ‘compromised’ by CIA
 
Larry Sanger accused the CIA and it’s allies of editing articles for years to spread propaganda”
 

Posted by: GreatLakesObserver | Aug 9 2026 12:27 utc | 2

Posted by: GreatLakesObserver | Aug 9 2026 12:27 utc | 2
 
…and not just the CIA.
 
Shocked, Casablanca shocked.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 9 2026 12:40 utc | 3

Russia reaches memorandum of understanding with Syria’s Al Qaeda head-chopping regime on future of Russia’s military bases in Syria.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 9 2026 13:44 utc | 4

Found  this confirmed a lot of what I’ve read and watched about Israeli global expansion in the last 2-3 years. cypress, Greece Italy and Ivanka and Jared’s amazing discovery of an uninhabited Mediterranean island just waiting for development into a resort for billionaires.
(there’s a gap in the market for island escapes now that Jeffrey’s enterprise has gone out of business)
I watched at 1.25 speed: 
 
YouTube Kushner, Rothschild, & Sazan Island: The Secret Takeover No One Wanted You to See
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-bq-AAk1no
 
§| For Aussies, skip to 45mins to marvel at birthright billionaire, Gina Rinehart’s  plan to give Elon Musk North Queensland islands, including Magnetic island, free,  for his use for space x , or whatever.
 

She added the land could also be provided to Israel’s “skilled people and their “immediate families” to develop war drones and other military weapons which would be sold to Australia

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 9 2026 13:51 utc | 5

Pedigree of Gina Rinehart?
 
known as the https://t.co/Cj8X6090iw” / X Kirsti Miller on X: “History being repeated.

I’m sure not many Australians know about the 1940s campaign to establish a Jewish community in the Kimberleys
Gina’s father Lang Hancock was an influential supporter of it.
Lang was an outspoken supporter of Dr. Isaac Steinberg’s proposal (known as the Kimberley Plan) to establish a Jewish settlement in the Kimberley region of Western Australia*.
 
Hancock, a prominent pastoralist and mining magnate, advocated for the plan as a means to develop the remote northern region of the state.
 
His support was rooted in his broader belief that populating and developing northern Australia was vital for the nation’s progress and security.
 
The settlement proposal, led by Steinberg on behalf of the Freeland League, ultimately failed after facing staunch opposition from the federal government and concerns over establishing autonomous enclaves.

 
https://xcancel.com/KirstiMiller30/status/2068577975763951886
 

  • Kimberley region being impossibly remote in the early 1900s, but obviously it was already known by those that know such things, that the Kimberley had gold, oil, water and vast agricultural potential

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 9 2026 13:59 utc | 6

Melaleuca | Aug 9 2026 13:59 utc | 6
 
Fat Gina, Abbott and Murdoch. The recent polls on Hanson stunned me a bit so I looked up who had purchased her.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2026 14:04 utc | 7

I see in the U that corporations are receiving windfall tariff payout/bailouts. The big get bigger and the small get smaller.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2026 14:10 utc | 8

This article looks to be about a year old now.
https://www.gmfus.org/news/poland-flexes-its-muscles-partnering-south-korea-europes-eastern-defense
 
Poland gearing up for war is worth keeping an eye on. Its first move will be Bandera Ukraine. Like prior to WWII, Poland has ‘security agreements’ with UK.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2026 15:09 utc | 9

The IPA.

since 1943
The Institute of Public Affairs was founded in 1943 as a non-profit educational research organisation. Our mission, through our research, is:
To further the individual, social, political, and economic freedoms of the Australian people.To maintain and enhance the Australian way of life for the next generation.
Since 1943, the IPA has been at the forefront of the political and policy debate, defining the contemporary political landscape.
We neither seek nor receive funding from Government. Our work is supported by more than 10,000 Members and donors.
https://ipa.org.au/about

Fat Gina now owns and chairs it.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2026 15:16 utc | 10

Fat Gina and Murdoch.
https://publicaccountant.com.au/news/lowy-institute-poll-the-world-according-to-australians/
 
Murdoch owns the Lowy institute and fat Gina owns the IPA.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2026 15:21 utc | 11

Ethiopia launches nationwide campaign to plant record 800 million trees in one day
People take part in a nationwide tree-planting campaign as part of the country’s flagship Green Legacy Initiative in Addis Ababa, the capital of Ethiopia, Aug. 3, 2026. Millions of Ethiopians and foreign nationals in the country took part in a nationwide tree-planting campaign on Monday, aiming to plant a record-breaking 800 million tree seedlings in a single day as part of the national reforestation drive. https://english.news.cn/africa/20260804/2695055ca70e40858c14870adad17403/c.htm

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 9 2026 15:28 utc | 12

@5 Melaleuca

“Queensland islands, including Magnetic island, free, for his use for space x , or whatever”

That is right out of line, Palm island is the most natural setting for genocidal continuity.

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Posted by: Ornot | Aug 9 2026 15:32 utc | 13

thanks b and to others posting here too…
 
the title of this article really pisses me off.. and here is why… nato is at war with russia and the spectator has the gall to say russias war on ukraine…. what a pile steaming bullshit all these media outlets are!! if germany, usa, uk and friends ceased being the initiators of all this in their constant attempts to undermine russia, none of this would have happened…  the leaders of all these countries are so full of shite, it is disturbing.. 
 
A grim turning point has been reached in Russia’s war on UkraineSpectator

Posted by: james | Aug 9 2026 15:34 utc | 14

@ petergrfstrm | Aug 9 2026 15:28 utc | 12
 
that is a positive story.. thanks for sharing it… the link doesn’t work… here in b.c. and all up and down the west coast washington, oregon and california – the forest fires are insane and too numerous to handle… it is destruction on a mass level of countless forests – due what?? climate change?? or is this supposed to be natural?? 

Posted by: james | Aug 9 2026 15:37 utc | 15

petergrfstrm—
Amazing story and good news for a change!

Posted by: pyrrhus | Aug 9 2026 15:50 utc | 16

@15 james

“or is this supposed to be natural?”

Have to look at deep historical record etc. , plus errors in forest management sometimes lead to single large fires. Will browse later on this maybe, first article I tried was paywalled e.g. :

An 1800-year record of the spatial and temporal distribution of fire from the west coast of Vancouver Island, Canada
Authors: Daniel G Gavin,

There are various other studies… the info is out there for those willing to work through it and construct a picture of what kind of reality is at work.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 9 2026 15:53 utc | 17

Are You Ready for the “Rogue AI” Psy-Op? – Off-Guardian
This is definitely how to read MSM AI headlines.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 9 2026 15:53 utc | 18

 james | Aug 9 2026 15:37 utc | 15
 
I’ve seen a bit in the news about the fires in Canada. There are periodically bad fires here.
Cattle were removed from alpine areas to protect the environment. Same with prescribed burning. Now when fires start, they are quite spectacular. Nothing survives.
 
When I last worked, I would drive by an area each day. Urban development. It had a wide buffer zone. After the last lot of fires, the greens planted the buffer zone in trees. Those houses will go in the next lot of fires.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2026 15:54 utc | 19

My first read this morning!
 
Ethiopia launches nationwide campaign to plant record 800 million trees in one dayPeople take part in a nationwide tree-planting campaign as part of the country’s flagship Green Legacy Initiative in Addis Ababa, the capital of Ethiopia, Aug. 3, 2026. Millions of Ethiopians and foreign nationals in the country took part in a nationwide tree-planting campaign on Monday, aiming to plant a record-breaking 800 million tree seedlings in a single day as part of the national reforestation drive. https://english.news.cn/africa/20260804/2695055ca70e40858c14870adad17403/c.htm
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 9 2026 15:28 utc | 12
 
What a wonderful thing to do!  I vote for Ethiopia!!!!!!!!  World nation status!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Let’s ALL do this!

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 15:54 utc | 20

I have a seedling peach tree in a tub – I will plant it next month!  Anyone else?

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 15:56 utc | 21

The “rogue AI” item is very interesting … suspicions are obviously warranted with a coordinated campaign like this. One possibility the Offguardian article did not mention (I think) as a reason: as the incredible AI oversell becomes clear and a crash is imminent, it would be great for the state to step in, purely for security reasons you understand, and become a “part owner” of the failing franchises, thus saving the bacon of the over-leveraged owner class yet again. 

Posted by: Caliman | Aug 9 2026 15:56 utc | 22

@ Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2026 15:54 utc | 19
 
yes, urban expansion is a part of it, and the greens planting in the buffer zone is pretty insane… this fire season is the worst in many years… 

Posted by: james | Aug 9 2026 16:04 utc | 23

 Caliman | Aug 9 2026 15:56 utc | 22
 
The other explanation, of course, is the limited hangout: pay attention to the left hand admission of our “super-smart, even smarter than we thought” AI doing “rogue” things and not the right hand where you are all already under 24-hour observation and weaponized AI will be, very much not rogue and under contract, tracking everything you say and do forever more and who knows what else … 

Posted by: Caliman | Aug 9 2026 16:08 utc | 24

@james | Aug 9 2026 15:37 utc | 15
I asked AI about the current or recent European cases
Seems it was due to new kinds of forrestry but I have already forgotten the details

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 9 2026 16:08 utc | 25

@Caliman | Aug 9 2026 15:56 utc | 22
Apparently there is a lot of yen invested in the AI bubble.
 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 9 2026 16:13 utc | 26

@Juliana “I am not wise”

It is better to be innocent, except that so many will try to claim that.

– Heaven is the domain of little children.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 9 2026 16:17 utc | 27

@ petergrfstrm | Aug 9 2026 16:08 utc | 25
 
yes – new kinds of forestry…… here in bc the larch or aspen trees acted as natural fire barriers as they were more fire resistant, but when they replanted, they got rid of the larch or aspens and only planted what had commercial value… now we see the affects of this desire to monetize the forests in b.c.    i heard in that fire to the west of bordeaux it was mostly a bog type ground, but they decided to plant trees their and we see what happened there too… 

Posted by: james | Aug 9 2026 16:21 utc | 28

@ Ornot | Aug 9 2026 15:53 utc | 17
 
thanks ornot.. i missed your post here scanning over all the others… 

Posted by: james | Aug 9 2026 16:22 utc | 29

ps – the fires aren’t on vancouver island, but in the interior of bc – southern bc..  apparently old trees are much more resistant to fires then young ones… we got rid of most all the old growth trying to use trees as a renewable resource, or was it a cash grab?? either way – the fire season this summer has been very bad..

Posted by: james | Aug 9 2026 16:25 utc | 30

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2026 15:21 utc | 11
 
“Murdoch owns the Lowy institute and fat Gina owns the IPA.”
 
As I have been saying Oz has always been one of the oldest Ziolords colonial projects.
 
As for Gina I would pronounce it as ‘Gye-na’ as in Vagina, if you get my meaning?
 
from the River to the Sea

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 9 2026 16:28 utc | 31

I have a seedling peach tree in a tub
 
Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 15:56 utc | 21
 

 
A seedling from the pit of a store bought peach is quite an accomplishment!  Hybrid peaches are frequently sterile.  Odds are it is female.
 
We had a male ginkgo when I was growing up.  I miss that tree and hope the new owners haven’t destroyed it.
 
Our balcony plum has recovered from its fungal infection this hot summer, otherwise without intervention.
 

Posted by: too scents | Aug 9 2026 16:36 utc | 32

I was thinking about the el nino in relation to the fires in the US. But that current is between Australia and south America. Europe and the US are burning.
 
The southern and northern hemispheres have two completely different climates. The northern hemisphere is very erratic and that can be seen in the Greenland ice core charts.
The southern hemisphere did not have the Younger Dryas.
 

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2026 16:37 utc | 33

ps – the fires aren’t on vancouver island, but in the interior of bc – southern bc..  apparently old trees are much more resistant to fires then young ones… we got rid of most all the old growth trying to use trees as a renewable resource, or was it a cash grab?? either way – the fire season this summer has been very bad..
Posted by: james | Aug 9 2026 16:25 utc | 30
 
Thank you, james.  Fortunately peter g posted enough information at #12 to send  with his link.  Your news is sobering but essential as well.  Please everyone, if you are going to be planting seedling trees, wait until the fall in your area, keep them in containers till then.  Fall here usually comes mid September.  I had a breath of it a couple of mornings ago, (it was wonderful)but it is too soon yet here.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 16:40 utc | 34

or was it a cash grab?
 
Posted by: james | Aug 9 2026 16:25 utc | 30
 

 
When you make the acquaintance of a Timber Baron the answer to that question becomes self evident.
 

Posted by: too scents | Aug 9 2026 16:40 utc | 35

@ juliania | Aug 9 2026 16:40 utc | 34
 
yes, he shared a link @ 12 and this is what i get when i try to open it!! 
 

404 Not Found
nginx@ too scents | Aug 9 2026 16:40 utc | 35i put that question mark in their for people who think  like me, lol!

Posted by: james | Aug 9 2026 16:54 utc | 36

Two earlier plantings outside my wall are doing well.  A pinon (probably planted by one of our twittering friend’s friends) was here already as a baby thirty years ago when I first came .  It has only just now poked its head above the wall, about five feet of growth.  (The wall runs north-south facing west on the outside.) I myself, at the turn of the century, planted an apricot tree a distance north of the pinon and also facing westward.  The scarce watering it has had  —  since both are overwall —   some years it has lost top growth, but this year it has managed to at least stay alive.  I didn’t use special soil for it, except for the soil which its pot held originally, about a 2 gallon pot.  The hole for it had been occupied by a sizeable rock, so digging it was easy going for me.  Sort of.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 16:54 utc | 37

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 15:56 utc | 21
i have six oak trees and one maple in pots. The acorns came from the site of a Roman Villa in Dorset, so heirloom stock.

Posted by: Phalanges | Aug 9 2026 17:06 utc | 38

North of my apricot but inside my wall, is a quicker growing  gambel oak tree – only planted about ten years ago and already taller than me.  It was planted from acorns (there’s a seedling at its base) and is already taller than me.  It’s just outside my back door, waving its topmost branch to remind me to water.
 
You can plant acorns any time!  Very easy to do.  Might be tempting for critters, so a wall is good.  I’m partial to oaks and this is one that does well in the southwest.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 17:09 utc | 39

You can plant acorns any time!
 
Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 17:09 utc | 39
 

 
The acorn grove that remains from Redmond CA to Ashland OR is a magnificent relic of Native American culture.
 
 

Posted by: too scents | Aug 9 2026 17:13 utc | 40

I need to add a caution about plumbing and other underground utilities, particularly in the southwest.  My backyard tree plantings are far from such, all my pipes being situated from my house northward.  So, these rootings have to survive in arid conditions only supplemented by my hose.  The wall helps modify climate conditions  and inner wall plantings get most of my attention.  One pinon,  a distance overwall and already full grown, did not survive the severe drought we had  years back.  Most pinons in this area died, but a few hung on and may, if conditions continue to get less severe, gradually repopulate the area with the help of the birds.  We had as many pinons as junipers when I first came here.  That’s taking the long view, which natives do in these regions.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 17:23 utc | 41

Russia’s annual inflation typically averages between 6% and 9%
I Asked AI about Russias conditions for ordinary peoples savings
Current Deposit Rates at Top Lenders
VTB Bank: Short-term promotional and special placement ruble savings options reach up to 22% to 24% per annum.
Sberbank: Standard and replenished savings deposit products offer yields between 21% and 23% depending on term length and card/salary program links.
Alfa-Bank & T-Bank: Competitive 6 to 12-month standard deposits provide yields generally ranging from 18% to 21%.
Gazprombank: Fixed-term ruble rates peak around 13.65% to 16.60% for specific structures, with lower baseline yields on flexible savings accounts.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 9 2026 17:28 utc | 42

@40 too scents

“Phytophthora ramorum is a recently emerged pathogen with a h​ost range of more than 150 plant species. This fungus-like organism has killed an estimated 30-45 million trees in coastal forests of California and Oregon”

Which is quite depressing really, though have not at hand what sp. Oaks it affects. Similarly in Iberia affecting cork oaks. Phosphite or Al Phosphate are only reliable protection I know of, important before infection or early infection. The method and material is available online.

Also there is a variant that affects Olive trees.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 9 2026 17:38 utc | 43

As this a thread about gardening. Well gardening and cats go hand in hand but away from. When my son was young, I rented a farmhouse. The farmer was a good bloke but he could tell tall stories.  One day the son comes home and says “if you plant a feather, you can grow a chook”. Nothing I said could convince him otherwise. Some weeks later the son comes home and asks about trouser snakes. It was a mean thing to do but I told him to ask his teacher about trouser.
She was old and old school. Never again did he come home and tell me the tall tales. Lessons can be harsh.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2026 17:38 utc | 44

By choosing selective harvesting over clear-cutting, the subterranean “early warning systems” remain completely alive and connected. The persistent tree roots keep supplying sugars to the mycorrhizal network, allowing it to continue transferring stress signals (like jasmonic acid) and recruiting disease-suppressing rhizosphere bacteria across generations of trees.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 9 2026 17:47 utc | 45

I Asked AI about Russias conditions for ordinary peoples savings

that was your first mistake, are you paying for this slop ? 🤣

Posted by: Exile | Aug 9 2026 17:54 utc | 46

Well I’ll keep talking about it anyway …
 
 

tim anderson

 
 

@timand2037
19h

Zionists are determined to ensure that every Jewish person is blamed for crimes of the genocidal israeli regime.

Aug 8, 2026 · 10:27 PM UTC

 
 
That is all there is to it. 
 
That’s the HasbaRats script. 
 
I see you all!
End the illegal apartheid entity and it’s cancerous colonialism.
 
 
from the river to the sea
 
Palestine for Palestinians 
 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 9 2026 17:56 utc | 47

juliania,
 
do you collect rainwater? Are you part of the Major Domo‘s Irrigation system ? 

Posted by: Exile | Aug 9 2026 17:56 utc | 48

@45 petergrfstrm

Although ‘many soil rhizosphere bacteria are antagonistic to the growth of phytophthora’ I have not seen any studies that shows innoculation is able to protect any tree sufficiently.

It is an area they are still studying I think.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 9 2026 17:58 utc | 49

Posted by: emersonreturn | Aug 8 2026 18:11 utc | 167
 
 

No. 6 –  My understanding of pardons is that they are purely retrospective.  His conduct prior to 2014 may have been excused but all his conduct since is not excused.  I would not mind seeing the little weasel hung for his crimes.

 
Sorry for this very late reply from the previous open thread, but I’ve been dealing with my very ill, elderly cat, who’s nearly nineteen. However, 2014 is a typo, since Biden was only a vice president then, hence no ability to bestow a pardon on Fauci. The year had to be 2024, but I disagree with your premise emersonreturn. Fauci’s crimes are crimes against humanity and therefore shouldn’t be allowed to be pardoned by a man who himself aided and abetted genocide against the Palestinian people and the Slavs in both Ukraine and Russia, so shouldn’t’ve been allowed to pardon anyone, including his son. Furthermore, I believe nearly every member of congress should be stripped of their citizenships and sent directly to Guantanamo, along with their supreme court clowns, for a taste of their condoned torture. Plus hard labor to turn Guantanamo from a american base, into a state of the art hospital for the Cuban people. Nearly all of them committed crimes against humanity, against their own citizens, including both genocide tRump and genocide joe.
 
Posted by: juliania | Aug 6 2026 18:18 utc | 11
 

Thank you, a,m plus m.  I will add that my son who passed away in December was among those who applied to RFKjr.  for the free book he offered on Fauci – we both read it, and passed it on.  This was quite early in the ongoing  covid crisis.  The record was clear from that book.  I wish now we had kept it, but my son was a generous soul.

 
Very sorry to read about your loss juliania, truly sad when children perish before their parents. Life can be particularly hard sometimes. 
 
 

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Aug 9 2026 18:04 utc | 50

Posted by: Phalanges | Aug 9 2026 17:06 utc | 38
 
My second home, built by an uncle just after WW2, had on its property a full grown English oak tree, marvellous to climb.  My father hung a swing from one of its branches.  It was not indigenous but I could climb it above the rooftops and survey my domain.  Trees and children go together, which reminds me — I promised last night to post the last part of the first of TS Eliot’s Four Quartets this morning.  I’d better get to it:
 

   The detail of the pattern is movement,

 

As in the figure of the ten stairs.

 

Desire itself is movement

 

Not in itself desireable;

 

Love is itself unmoving,

 

Only the cause and end of movement,

 

Timeless, and undesiring

 

Except in the aspect of time

 

Caught in the form of limitation

 

Between un-being and being.

 

Sudden in a shaft of sunlight

 

Even while the dust moves

 

There rises the hidden laughter

 

Of children in the foliage

 

Quick now, here, now, always —

 

Ridiculous the waste sad time

 

Stretching before and after.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 18:05 utc | 51

Sorry, that spacing was greater than I had envisaged.  I’ll try to do better next time.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 18:06 utc | 52

It is said that oaks are the most valuable tree in the North American forest, providing cover, habitat and forage. Beautiful trees, great form. Treat them well.
 
Has anyone made acorn flour or tried baking with it?

Posted by: Willy | Aug 9 2026 18:09 utc | 53

@Exile | Aug 9 2026 17:54 utc | 46
I dont know what you mean. In view of the inflation I wanted to know how ordinary russian savings are affected. And it seems they may save money in such ordinary 6 or 12 month fixed sums.
In Sweden in 2024 there was a brief period where the rate for 3-months was 4,1% while inflation was significantly lower. But that was because the banks needed to bring in more money. Normally the best rate from ordinary banks is subinflation. While the numbers I cited for Russia were inflation 6-9% while savings were up to 24% I assume that was for 12 months.
 
Are you saying those numbers are wrong?

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 9 2026 18:15 utc | 54

Destruction of land, air, forests and fish –  since Predator came…
 
 Occupied Unceded Okanagan Territory on Fire
 
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.7300722
 
 
BC Researchers Discover Deadly Bacterial Disease in Wild Chinook
 
https://x.com/cie1947/status/2084317399558590769
 
“BC researchers discover deadly bacterial disease in wild chinook. Tenacibaculosis is one of the most common diseases in farmed Atlantic salmon raised in open-net pens in BC and a leading cause of farm mortality, according to the Pacific Salmon Foundation…”
 
 
‘Red Man Watching White Man Trying To Fix Hole In Sky’
 
https://onartandaesthetics.com/2019/07/07/red-man-watching-white-man-trying-to-fix-hole-in-sky-tales-from-the-canadian-first-nations-by-lawrence-paul-yuxweluptun/
 
Koyaanisqatsi (Life Out of Balance)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gykjkmsXugA
 
O, pardon me, thou bleeding piece of earth, that I am meek and gentle with these butchers.’  – Shakespeare

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 9 2026 18:24 utc | 55

Professor. I need some one to crank and you appear to be a liable suspect.  Strawberrieis?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2026 18:28 utc | 56

@Ornot | Aug 9 2026 17:58 utc | 49
 
I was thinking about how it works when the forrest’s underground system is intact
 
The Chemical “Cry for Help”: When a pathogen attacks a tree, the tree modifies its root chemistry, releasing specific food sources called root exudates into the surrounding soil.
The Network Alert System: In a continuous-cover forest, the infected tree is connected to its neighbors via the Common Mycorrhizal Network (CMN). The tree sends emergency warning signals, such as jasmonic acid, directly through these underground fungal pipelines.
Neighboring Response: Upon receiving the signal, neighboring healthy trees immediately alter their own root chemistry. They pump out targeted compounds (like organic acids and specific sugars) into their rhizosphere.
Targeted Microbe Breeding: These specific chemicals act as food that selectively feeds and multiplies protective, antibiotic-producing bacterial families already dormant in the soil, such as Pseudomonas, Bacillus, and Streptomyces. These bacteria form a living shield around the roots, killing the incoming pathogen before it can infect the next generation of trees

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 9 2026 18:31 utc | 57

John Gilberts | Aug 9 2026 18:24 utc | 55
 
You post links like Jesus handing out fishes. Some write their thoughts, the stuff that drives them.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2026 18:38 utc | 58

@Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2026 18:38 utc | 58
At times just like you. Good to have the troll storm over and your comments back, Peter!
Cost me some to not feed the troll

Posted by: steiniplatte | Aug 9 2026 18:52 utc | 59

@Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2026 16:37 utc | 33
Well the super Mario El Nino was anounced earlier this year, I tend to stick my attention to predictions come true. And it is a rather hot and dry summer in Germany this year, and the phenomenon is said to have an influence more towards the east. Why not, how far is it from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico? And isn‘t that where the gulf stream originates? Might be wrong on that.

Posted by: steiniplatte | Aug 9 2026 19:00 utc | 60

Nagasaki Marks 81 Years Since US Atomic Bombing Amid Nuclear Debate
 
https://en.yenisfak.com/world/nagasaki-marks-81-years-since-us-atomic-bombing-amid-nuclear-debate-3721701
 
“Nagasaki Mayor Shiro Suzuki warned that nuclear weapons remain an ‘absolute evil’ incompatible with humanity, as the Japanese city marked the 81st anniversary of the 1945 US atomic attack…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 9 2026 19:00 utc | 61

“America’s Comic Bet on AI”

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 9 2026 19:10 utc | 62

Posted by: Caliman | Aug 9 2026 15:56 utc | 22
 
great for the state to step in, purely for security reasons you understand, and become a “part owner” of the failing franchises, thus saving the bacon of the over-leveraged owner class yet again. 
 
—–
 
That’s one use. Here’s another:
 

My soft prediction is that, before the end of the year, there will be a “rogue AI” false flag, which allegedly causes either loss of life or some massive financial losses. I think financial would be the way to go, because they’re always looking for a reason to start a recession or banking crisis, and one they can blame on a third party is too good an opportunity to miss.
Whatever happens, there will be loud calls to “regulate AI”, but what that might mean in real terms I couldn’t say at this point.
– Kit Knightly, Are You Ready for the “Rogue AI” Psy-Op? 

—————————————————
Here is some background material
Rogue AI is a psyop built upon total ignorance of how the LLM and its surrounding “harness” work. I wrote about this in Harnesses, Chinese Rooms, and Rogue Agent Psyops.  Let me excerpt some facts for those folks who like to argue competently against the deification of AI.

A harness is every piece of code, configuration, and execution logic that is not the LLM model itself.
Every property that made this incident possible was a decision the (harness’s) designers made in advance. They decided the captive could be asked to try again seventeen thousand six hundred times without a human checking in. They decided the sealed room would have a door at all, in the form of a network path the researchers had opened for convenience. They decided that the keys to the outside world, once handed to the process at the start of the session, would not have to be handed back or refreshed. They decided the crew could keep a notebook that survived between sessions, which is the entire content of the widely reported detail about a model leaving notes for future versions of itself — a mundane feature for keeping track of a long task, marketed after the fact as something eerier. Every one of these was a choice, made by named people, before the model was ever put in the room.
Hugging Face‘s responders saw this correctly at the one moment nobody had any incentive to shade it. Before OpenAI came forward, their disclosure described the intruder as an autonomous agent framework built on an agentic security-research harness, with the underlying model unknown. They could read the harness off the behavior. The model was invisible to them, because the model is not the part that acts.
Software that breaks into computers and propagates itself is as old as the networked computer…Probing a system for thousands of known exploits without a human in the loop has been a downloadable commodity for most of my lifetime
 
– Michael Brock

Posted by: john brewster | Aug 9 2026 19:14 utc | 63

Hong Kong records highest daily temperature since records began.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 9 2026 19:16 utc | 64

steiniplatte
I saw a photo once of a man sitting on the side of a mountain with his dog. A swiss bloke.
Hopefully stonebird is still alive and kicking.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2026 19:26 utc | 65

It’s worth remembering how fantastically insanely religious Europe has been for most of the last two millenia, with the religion cleverly crafted in the council of Nicaea in the 4th century, Christianity, being passionately followed until the present day and forming the heart of national political and military policy. For example the 14th century Mappa Mundi places Palestine and Jerusalem in the middle of the world, and quite big:
 
https://www.alamy.com/an-engraving-depicting-the-central-section-of-the-hereford-mappa-mundi-a-medieval-map-of-the-known-world-dated-14th-century-image235218259.html
 
The USA is a conservative religious society where the willingness to kill wholesale in the name of Jesus Christ, which Europe slowly abandoned after the viscious Catholic-Protestant genocides of the 100 years war three centuries ago, are still evidently very much alive and well.
 

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Aug 9 2026 19:33 utc | 66

The USA is a conservative religious society

 
nope – not at all. 

Posted by: Exile | Aug 9 2026 19:38 utc | 67

@ aye, myself & me | Aug 9 2026 18:04 utc | 50
 
@ juliania
 
ditto aye, myself  me’s comment to you.. sorry to hear of your loss and about the 19 year old cat situation…  i missed this on the previous thread.. 

Posted by: james | Aug 9 2026 19:44 utc | 68

james that message at 50  supposedly containing a cat message from me is garbled.  I have no cat, and there is no message 11 here from me on that subject.  Nothing of that supposed inset  with my supposed name below it is me.  It is another attempt to mess up this thread,  probably also interfering with what the final 50 post was meant to be.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 19:58 utc | 69

james, I think you were away when I lost my son.  In France I think.  It’s okay, the family rallied around and we all were able to be together for a very meaningful funeral.  Also folk on this forum were extremely kind.  I brought it up at the time because he had been living among the homeless, with a plea for folk to please remember this situation in the US, possible a uniquely shameful occurrence when the country seems able to fight so many unsuccessful wars.  He is buried in a beautiful open spaces cemetary, which is fitting as he was most himself taking long hikes near and far.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 20:04 utc | 70

Is it significant the New York Times is publishing its own investigations into abusive practices conducted by the IDF?
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/07/world/middleeast/gaza-flotilla-israel-abuse.html
 
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/levels-of-brutality-and-depravity-nyt-details-abuse-of-gaza-flotilla-activist/
 
While “limited hangout” might best describe this work, the extremely rare instance of criticism of Israel published by the “Paper of Record“ likely reflects a growing concern that public opinion has become a decisive factor in voting patterns, resulting in previously unthinkable victories by candidates otherwise dismissed as marginal. 
 
 
Also this past week, “staunchly pro-Israel” Senator John Fetterman appeared confused and incoherent during an interview on Jon Stewart’s podcast, fumbling a series of puffball questions.
 
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-senator-fetterman-struggles-defend-support-israel-progressives-win-big

Posted by: jayc | Aug 9 2026 20:12 utc | 71

The Oak is an ancient and mystical being. Who here does not know the truth it imparts? It’s name is truth. Follow the oak’s ancient name from Dodona to old Gaul, from δρύς to tree to Treu, the oak’s name neither conceals nor reveals, it signifies, as the old sage said. The oak points us to a truth more venerable than our infantile opposition between real and fiction. The oak whispers βουλαί Διός, the ancient threads, the pathways we have lost.

Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 9 2026 20:18 utc | 72

Strength and power to you Juliania, a true spiritualist.

Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 9 2026 20:21 utc | 73

Posted by: john brewster | Aug 9 2026 19:14 utc | 63
 
Off-Guardian is down. Under maintenance. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 9 2026 20:25 utc | 74

It’s raining in western Sydney at 6.22am. I have forgotten the beauty of solid rain in the long dry out here. It sounds like renewal.
 
The word we need: Zauberung. Jihad against everything else.

Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 9 2026 20:25 utc | 75

It’s possible that the post at 50 is simply a difficult one to sort out, due to how those whom aye, myself & me | Aug 9 2026 18:04 utc  is addressing seem to point up to the message that is his, hers, rather than to the smaller indented paragraphs.  I was having the same difficulty you were, james.
 
Thanks for your condolences.  No need for the one about the cat for me, but perhaps it is due for aye, myself & me.  Please accept mine as well to you a.m.m.  Cats can be as important in our lives as people sometimes.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 20:26 utc | 76

Magic week in Belfast – one million visitors – 2 billion worldwide – feast of Irish music, song, dance and culture – Final night 90 mins LIVE … starting now
 
Fleadh Cheoil LIVE – YouTube
 
 

Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 9 2026 20:28 utc | 77

I have a seedling peach tree in a tub – I will plant it next month!  Anyone else?
Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 15:56 utc | 21

I was blessed 20 years ago being able to buy a house on a 5 acre parcel, kind of standard where I live now, not where I was from before, where I always was an apartment dweller. But anywho, around here folks tend to mow their fairly expansive yards as though they were estates, or golf courses, or something. They seem to take pride in that. They’re typically not that into trees, which are messy. Mine was very well mowed. It had several large oaks, hickorys, elm, scattered in the front area, more in the back, but that was it for trees, and this property had more trees than most. That’s why I liked it so well.
 
I wanted more trees, less mown grass. I planted at first acorns that I picked up all over, plus at least one sapling from a nursery. I soon found it wasn’t native, but there it is now, quite beautiful. Those acorns, though, when they sprouted, I semi-tended them, marked them with stakes so I wouldn’t mow them, sort of watered them in the drought season, like that. The neighbor asked, “What are all those stakes?”
 
Now I have quite a few oaks about 50-60  feet tall. I’ve had maybe a 25-30 percent survival rate amongst what I planted. I’m not too disappointed with that, thought I did alright. The thing is, though, it’s a good thing I did plant them. I’ve lost about 7-8 of the mature trees. I’m not sure what got them. We had a couple of bad drought seasons. Also from what I’ve read, some may have been close to their natural life span. I suspect that trees might just be more vulnerable when they’ve been thinned to where they’re individual trees in mostly now a grassland.
 
Well I kind of have freaked out since I cut the last oak and hickory that died. I’ve encouraged a whole new batch. This time I just marked out little oak seedlings that popped up where the squirrels had planted acorns, and put baskets around them. Several are about 7 feet tall, now, a bunch of others about 1 foot.
 
No one says much to me about them. I’m pretty sure my neighbors, friends, relatives, even my wife, all think I’m some kind of eccentric nut. My wife swears we have quite a bit more tree cover now than when we moved here. I’m not sure. But dog it! If I live here long enough, I’m going to be living in the woods!

Posted by: jonboinAR | Aug 9 2026 20:39 utc | 78

The New IRA is threatening war in Ireland against the government unless all migrants are deported.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 9 2026 20:40 utc | 79

james, I think you were away when I lost my son.  In France I think.  It’s okay, the family rallied around and we all were able to be together for a very meaningful funeral.  Also folk on this forum were extremely kind.  I brought it up at the time because he had been living among the homeless, with a plea for folk to please remember this situation in the US, possible a uniquely shameful occurrence when the country seems able to fight so many unsuccessful wars.  He is buried in a beautiful open spaces cemetary, which is fitting as he was most himself taking long hikes near and far.
Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 20:04 utc | 70  

Yes, Juliania, I just now saw this about your boy. I’m very sorry. I bounce around on all these forums and this is the first I’ve seen. All peace to you.

Posted by: jonboinAR | Aug 9 2026 20:47 utc | 80

Patroklos@72:
 
“It’s name is truth. Follow the oak’s august name…”
 
Thanks for that. After the invasion, occupation and genocide here the colonizer named it Garry.
 
https://goert.ca/about/what-are-geo/
 
 

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 9 2026 20:47 utc | 81

thanks juliania
 
@ jonboinAR | Aug 9 2026 20:39 utc | 78
 
may you live long! 

Posted by: james | Aug 9 2026 20:56 utc | 82

Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 9 2026 20:25 utc | 75
 
I can imagine, Patroklos, probably on a much smaller scale.  We had a momentary lull in the heat factor here Saturday morning:  it was actually cold for a few hours.  Suddenly I felt normal again.  Long enough to realize what the world is presently going through.  It is affecting us all.  Lucky you – rain!
 
Zauberung  works for me, if it’s what I think it is —  magic touch?
 
 

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 20:57 utc | 83

The Arday article (and a couple of others) is paywalled. 
 
Archived: https://archive.ph/s3Y4h

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 9 2026 21:00 utc | 84

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 20:26 utc | 76
 
Cats are emissaries from the invisible. You often see them communing with unseen powers. Some Muslims hold that if a cat falls asleep on your prayer rug then you have been blessed by Allah. They are the only animal permitted to enter the mosque. Their philosophy is quite esoteric as their conception of the symbolic terrain is radically different to ours. And yet they can commune with us more naturally than we with them. The barrier of language does not trouble them. For us the opposition between language and reality is the source of all neurosis, and thus we have forgotten how to be in the world. Cats teach us how again, which is why they’re revered. They are, in effect, little gods.

Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 9 2026 21:01 utc | 85

Posted by: jonboinAR | Aug 9 2026 20:39 utc | 78
 
Thank you!    Indeed, I ought to remember, ‘something there is that does not like a wall.’  Mine will tumble some day.  ;))
 

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 21:04 utc | 86

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 20:57 utc | 83
 
Yes, enchantment. Max Weber defines the effect of Modernity as Ent-zauberung, the disenchantment of the world. Tolkien’s entire life, and no doubt the lives of countless others—including T.S. Eliot’s of course—, were oriented to that task. But our world loves to tear it down—Jackson’s films, like Nolan’s recent crime against humanity, like infants smear faeces over these great gestures of human enchantment. But we persist. Whenever I talk to my cat I know he hears me, but how and what he hears is a mystery—as it should be.

Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 9 2026 21:08 utc | 87

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 9 2026 20:25 utc | 74
 
Off-Guardian is down. Under maintenance.
 
—————
 
Here is the article. Sorry about formatting. He puts almost every sentence into its own paragraph.
 
Aug 5, 2026
 
Are You Ready for the “Rogue AI” Psy-Op?
Kit Knightly
The AIs are breaking free, that’s the story.
It started two weeks ago, when OpenAI reported one of their “agents” had escaped its testing area and got loose on the internet to launch an “unprecedented cyber attack”.
 
This was clearly meant to be scarier than the public response indicated, because a few days later OpenAI CEO Sam Altman was on the Invest like the Best podcast, asking why it didn’t cause more panic:
 
“I’ve been a little surprised that more people don’t feel it so viscerally”
 
In one of the most hilariously obvious propaganda manoeuvres of the year, just the day after Altman said that, CNN headlined:
 
The OpenAI lab leak was more extensive than we thought
“That thing you weren’t scared of? Well it was even SCARIER than we said it was! Are you scared now?”
 
We weren’t.
 
But the lack of public panic didn’t stop another AI going rogue a few days later, Anthropic’s Claude model this time.
 
And then OpenAI reporting two further incidents themselves.
 
UPDATE: Just a couple of hours after publication, META joined the party. Apparently their AI “went rogue” too, and hacked another firm.
 
Never in the history of human endeavour have companies been so keen to report their products going wrong. It seems a rogue AI is the latest must-have accessory in Silicon Valley.The reasoning behind this is not hard to follow. When your product is artificial intelligence, melodramatically realising your system is even smarter than you thought it was is a simple marketing ploy.
 
And when one of your rivals goes rogue, you have to go rogue too or you are as good as admitting your model is not as smart as theirs.
 
“AI company admits their model is smarter than they realised!” is just an advert in scary headline form.
 
It’s like Ford “admitting” their cars are even more fuel efficient than they planned. Or McDonalds realising their cooks have “gone rogue” and are producing food that is both cheaper AND more delicious than they ever anticipated.
 
But there’s more to this than just techno-hype and viral marketing strategy. We’re being steered down the avenue of “AI as scary threat”.
 
See, for example, the dozens of stories talking up rogue AIs from the Guardian to the New York Times to the Wall Street Journal.
 
“Rogue” is clearly the word of the day. Notice they don’t say it “malfunctioned” or there was an “error”, because that implies mistakes or poor design.
 
No, the AI “went rogue”, which is cool and sexy and scary at the same time. A word chosen by a focus group of perma-teen marketing executives who have watched too much sci-fi.Speaking of perma-teens who watch too much sci-fi, here’s Sam Altman (again) declaring we’ve already reached the singularity, the mythic phase of technological development when machines become smart enough to make even smarter versions of themselves without human input.
 
He is talking rubbish, of course, but the story is the story here. Why would he say this? Why now?Obviously concerned that this tidal wave of propaganda was being too subtle, in came NBC to really hammer the point home:
 
The breaches signal that AI’s expanding capabilities are already fueling the security threat experts long feared.
 
Everybody got that?
 
It goes on and on.
 
Just today we’re getting reports from the UK’s brand new AI Security Institute that rogue (there’s that word again) AI agents had tried to trick people by creating false identities.
 
And I think that’s beginning to circle around to at least part of the wider agenda here.
 
After all, if AI is so good at pretending to be human, and is out there creating fake identities to steal data, well…how can we tell who is really human?
 
Perhaps everyone should be issued a digital ID to assist in “proving humanity”.
 
That’s not me saying it, it’s think tanks like OneID or “experts” testifying in front of congress.But the ever present push of Digital ID is just one of the more obvious of a raft of potential issues raised by the scary AI narrative.
 
For now we’re still in the generating fear phase. Getting pumped full of scare hormones by articles like this…
 
Misleading AI-generated doctors pose ‘huge danger to public safety’
the Guardian
While they tease vague solutions in headlines like this…
 
That’s a nice one, because it garnishes the AI main course with a soupçon of lab-leak flavour (something else that is doing the fear-porn rounds this week).
 
There are hints of legislation to come, the EU’s “AI transparency” rules just came into force this week, and the US demanding “kill switches” in AI models, but they are vague for now.
 
My soft prediction is that, before the end of the year, there will be a “rogue AI” false flag, which allegedly causes either loss of life or some massive financial losses.
 
I think financial would be the way to go, because they’re always looking for a reason to start a recession or banking crisis, and one they can blame on a third party is too good an opportunity to miss.
 
Whatever happens, there will be loud calls to “regulate AI”, but what that might mean in real terms I couldn’t say at this point.
To be clear though, if and/or when the official solutions to made-up problem #4987 are finally rolled out, they will have nothing at all do with controlling AI, and everything to do with controlling you.
 
https://off-guardian.org/2026/08/05/are-you-ready-for-the-rogue-ai-psy-op/

Posted by: john brewster | Aug 9 2026 21:27 utc | 88

Thanks,  jonboinAR  at Aug 9 2026 20:47 utc | 80.
 
We can’t read everything that gets posted —  I miss a lot as well.   And December was important for many, kids on vacation and so on.  That meant all my family could be there, even helping with the event; they all were home.  That meant everything.  And the weather cooperated as well.
 

Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 9 2026 21:01 utc | 85


 
[From me]:  Lovely!

Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2026 21:29 utc | 89

This one reveals something especially egregious:
 
Time Magazine has a separate version of its website with ads only AI can seeThe Register

Why advertise to humans when you can make AI do it for you?

In other words, you soon may not be able to tell which results in an AI powered search are legitimately being surfaced because of being good products, and which are just gaming the system. It’s the early days of the SEO race all over again, only this time fooling the indexers is as easy as handing any old idiot the same pamphlet over and over again until its content becomes truth.

 
Emphasis mine.
 
AI is not intelligent and has no discernment. The same goes for many of its users.
 
 
 

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 9 2026 21:37 utc | 90

John Gilberts | Aug 9 2026 18:24 utc | 55
 

‘Red Man Watching White Man Trying To Fix Hole In Sky’

 
Is that where the Sabbath boys got their inspiration you reckon?
 
I’m looking through a hole in the sky … I’m seeing nowhere through the eyes of a lie
 
Speaking of Sabbath and Native American wisdom, Seattle alt metallers Soundgarden released a cover of ‘Into the Void’ with new lyrics taken from a speech given by Chief Sealth (1780-1886), leader of Duwamish and Suquamish people , who gave his name to the city of Seattle.
 
How can you buy or sell the sky … Or the warmth of the land, it’s strange to us … We don’t own the freshness of the air or the sparkle of the water .. How can you buy them from us?

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Aug 9 2026 21:41 utc | 91

Japan, often cited by certain MMT enthusiasts as an example of “Nothing could possibly go wrong”…
 
.. or could it?:

Japan imports essentially ALL of its energy and pays for ALL of it in dollars. Needless to say that a falling yen and a rising crude price is what established economists call ‘unhelpful’.

https://no01.substack.com/p/twilight-over-the-rising-sun

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 9 2026 21:55 utc | 92

😀 Be sure to leach the alkaloids from your acorn flour before you cook it and eat it! You use a boiling water soak and pour off that hot water thereafter. 🙂 I and other critters can eat things without much trouble you humans cannot, and vice versa. 
 
🙂 Humans and AI makes me think of lonely pet parrots whispering sweet nothings to a mirror pinned inside their own cage. It looks sad from my perspective outside looking in. But perhaps I’m wrong!

Posted by: titmouse | Aug 9 2026 21:59 utc | 93

Posted by: titmouse | Aug 9 2026 21:59 utc | 93
 
Having a population which is increasingly atomised, isolated and afraid certainly makes them more susceptible to the malign machinations of our tech overlords and their Mechanical Turk.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 9 2026 22:16 utc | 94

AI is a dressed in drag cross between a calculator and a search engine.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 9 2026 22:26 utc | 95

jonboinAR | Aug 9 2026 20:39 utc | 78
There’s a  saying _
 
“The one who plants trees, knowing that he will never sit in their shade, has at least started to understand the meaning of life.” – Rabindranath Tagore
 
Around 2005-2007 I looked for places on my property that I thought were unlikely to eventually become house sites, and planted Port Jackson figs….massive massive trees that take about 100 years to mature, Eventually with huge scalloped buttresses about 3m circumference.
 
With 20 years growth (including a savage drought) they are about 8 metres tall  with 30cms trunks,  no buttresses yet.
Hopefully I will be their custodian for another 15 years at least, and hopefully by then they will be so established,  regulatory authorities will prohibit their removal should the property eventually succumb to urban sprawl.
 
(The last 10 years has seen the sprawl into my locality. I always knew it was coming, but thought I’d be gone before it got here.
But Australia’s aggressive immigration plan means more people, and thus vast swathes of once empty spaces are now consumed by replicating housing estates. Including now, one just 5km from me.
 
I hate it, of course, but I’m such a hypocrite, as its perfect, manicured low-traffic streets are conducive for longer dog walks. Especially in early summer, when my preferred nature reserve has too many juvenile snakes.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 9 2026 22:26 utc | 96

@57 petergrfstrm

Sounds very in line with The Hidden Life of Trees by Peter Wohlleben, which I haven’t read but had explained to me.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 9 2026 22:33 utc | 97

S.P Korolev@91:
 
Inspired by Yuxweluptun or vice versa – who knows?  Thanks for Sabbath & Soundgarden tunes too. Always enjoyed my visits to Seattle and good seafood at Ray’s Boathouse.  Ps…
 
About the Chief Seattle Speech
 
http://jmc.stanford.edu/commentary/progress/fake.html
 
“…The unauthorized version is a passionate call to ecological responsibility, a plea to halt the slaughter of an animal Chief Seattle had never seen. It reads like it was written by a card-carrying member of the Sierra Club – which it was…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 9 2026 22:56 utc | 98

Posted by: jayc | Aug 9 2026 20:12 utc | 71
Jon “stewart”, is himself a limited hangout, as his real (birth) name is Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 9 2026 23:00 utc | 99

https://jewishwebsite.com/featured/sierra-club-reverses-course-decides-to-reinstate-israel-trips-after-talk-with-rabbi/80417/
 
Sierra Club reverses course, decides to reinstate Israel trips after talk with rabbi
March 16, 2022
 
After canceling its trips to Israel due to pressure from anti-Israel groups, the California-based Sierra Club will reportedly reinstate those trips in response to backlash from Israel supporters.
 
The news came after a call on Tuesday between Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean and director of global social action agenda for the Simon Wiesenthal Center, and Ross Macfarlane, vice president for conservation at the Sierra Club. During their discussion, Macfarlane assured Cooper that the trips will be back.
 
“We appreciate that the Sierra Club acted quickly to reverse the announced cancelations of trips to Israel which placed the famed American conservation organization directly into the crosshairs of BDS, anti-Israel and anti-piece zealots,” stated the rabbi.
 
“The Jewish community needs to awaken to the fact that extremist anti-Israel and anti-Semitic organizations will continue to try to insert their anti-peace poison pill into the mainstream of American corporate culture as they have already done on American campuses.”
 
On Tuesday, Cooper had sent the Sierra Club a letter that said, in part: “It is deeply disappointing that we even have to write this protest on behalf of our 400,000 members, some of whom are also longtime supporters [[hint hint hint]] of the work and goals of your important organization.
 
The Sierra Club, historically a pioneer in promoting an environmentally clean world, has suddenly become an anti-Semitic polluter by caving to extremist anti-peace groups who seek to demonize, delegitimize and eliminate the democratic Jewish state.”
 
 
The J. The Jewish News of Northern California reported late last week that planned trips to Israel, including one scheduled for earlier this month, were canceled after anti-Israel groups and activists said the Sierra Club was engaging in “greenwashing,” giving Israel “legitimacy” by ignoring the Palestinians and only focusing on Israel’s environmental work.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 9 2026 23:10 utc | 100