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August 20, 2026
Open (Not Ukraine or Iran) Thread 2026-178
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Iran …
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“Diversification push” is Japanese for “Capital Flight”
reposted from the stale open thread Posted by: too scents | Aug 20 2026 16:42 utc | 1 Alibaba updated their 380 billion remnibi (50 billion EUR, $60B) AI CAPEX process today. Considering the progress of DeepSeek becoming more effective and the scale Alibaba is building its computing capacity, it’s likely Alibaba’s AI models and model-as-a-service applications are going to dominate the world within a few years. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 20 2026 16:55 utc | 2 Contrarian commentary – maybe the current shitshow is the plan: Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 20 2026 17:01 utc | 3 DeepSeek is much less compute watts than US competition! Probably working efficient SW and lower watt chips. Posted by: paddy | Aug 20 2026 17:10 utc | 4 Alibaba CEO:
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 20 2026 17:31 utc | 5 Einstein the Wife Beater (@10 mins) and thief/fraud (@20 mins) Posted by: Exile | Aug 20 2026 17:34 utc | 6 Posted by: Exile | Aug 20 2026 17:34 utc | 6 Posted by: duck n cover | Aug 20 2026 18:05 utc | 7 For the barkeep, and my friends at the bar: Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 20 2026 18:10 utc | 8 Panic setting in.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 20 2026 18:16 utc | 9 duck n cover, ‘Sadistic Rituals’ (Excerpt)…..,The women described years of abuse, including rape and torture, masked as spiritual rituals, as well as systemic silencing and neglect from authorities. As the Knesset members listened to the survivors’ testimony, a number appeared visibly shaken…….
Posted by: Exile | Aug 20 2026 18:16 utc | 10 It’s coming bit by bit…
Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 20 2026 18:17 utc | 11 The US is hurt by higher oil prices, even if you accept the narrative of it being a ‘net exporter’. Because high oil prices are resultant of gulf regimes not being able to export oil, hence putting pressure on them to sell US treasuries. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 20 2026 18:20 utc | 12 Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 20 2026 18:17 utc | 11 Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 20 2026 18:24 utc | 13 Hey duck n cover, Mossad excels in Projection. Posted by: Suresh | Aug 20 2026 19:27 utc | 14 This from the Iran thread, shared here. Posted by: Suresh | Aug 20 2026 19:33 utc | 15 Alon Mizrahi covers big tech so intent and malicious in controlling our consciences in his latest article. Posted by: Suresh | Aug 20 2026 20:11 utc | 16 @ suresh 14 Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 20 2026 20:15 utc | 17 duck n cover | Aug 20 2026 18:05 utc | 7 Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Aug 20 2026 20:17 utc | 18 [jukebox] Mamadou Diabaté (2014) – Griot classique Posted by: persiflo | Aug 20 2026 20:32 utc | 19 re: Einstein Posted by: robjira | Aug 20 2026 20:35 utc | 20 More good stuff on the western debt situation. Especially recommended to watch the bits:
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 20 2026 20:42 utc | 21 So I did really write independently developed above?! ha, that’s bad. All I can give as my defense is that I am surprised about the tonal space the Kora inhabits. That sounds and feels a lot like the western tonal system to me, though I know the fine details of tuning are handled in own ways; so much so that the arrival of western mechanical devices, which are more stable, is at odds with the practice of getting the instrument in tune with the place it is beiong played, including its climatic conditions. That’s just another aspect of this approach I find literally sci-fi level wise. If you compare the two records I linked to above, you’ll hear the very different sound of the strings both players use – another thing the Kora excels at. The dynamic range extends from ff to pp and damping over deadstopping to fully to dead notes on multiple strings at once. Posted by: persiflo | Aug 20 2026 20:52 utc | 22 Figured this was going to happen… incredibly depressing that it is already happening at scale: Posted by: Rae | Aug 20 2026 20:53 utc | 23 @ persiflo | Aug 20 2026 20:32 utc | 19 // 22 Posted by: james | Aug 20 2026 21:02 utc | 24 It’s true, I am afraid of the wave equation. Getting involved with that might well have me end up coding python all day drinking green tea in a home djungle and talking in a soft voice about the words to use for different transients with the most sensitive musicians I can find. I see a regular daily schedule and an actual job, probably with decent pay and gentle colleagues. There are projects, too. Why can’t we go fully continuous with the harmony/dissonance thing? If we can handle generative timbre, the electrical “socket instrument” would hand us tone as basic material for music in a way resembling play-doh. I think it’s doable, and nobody else seems to care … uh oh. Posted by: persiflo | Aug 20 2026 21:05 utc | 25 @james – I’m just getting into this Kora thing. The first time I heard one was a busker who played at the harbour front. My colleague and me were paripateining, but stopped to listen to this despite the overcrowded sidewalk, and stayed until he finished, talking about the music throughout. Afterwards we went to chat with the player, that’s where I first heard the name. But actively listening to this music has begun just weeks ago for me. I am slow to get into breadth and depth of a specific music, especially when I reqally like it. It’s as if I had a natural respect for what it does to me. Not sure why, but it’s visible in my most important life decision, which is to become a philosopher and not a musician, studying composition and all. There are problems on this planet, you see? The warrior gene is strong in me. Posted by: persiflo | Aug 20 2026 21:15 utc | 26 Posted by: james | Aug 20 2026 21:02 utc | 24 Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 20 2026 21:19 utc | 27 No, Sebgo, you’re wrong. Germany has electricity, so no one needs a Kora here. I will admit that there may be at least one (possibly retired) teacher in Germany, probably some guy from Mali who married a German woman and now lives in Berlin or something. Posted by: persiflo | Aug 20 2026 21:36 utc | 28 The historic ship could use a coat of fresh paint, maybe they were worried it could hit an iceberg so they used a rusty old scow. Anyway, seems the arctic route is open for business: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 20 2026 21:37 utc | 29 You made me laugh with your reference to electricity. Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 20 2026 21:41 utc | 30 Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 20 2026 21:41 utc | 30 Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 20 2026 21:42 utc | 31 Just joking, Sebgo. But, sampling? I see you are not a player, all the intricacy is in the fingertips, and the skill is deeply mystical synthesis; the very counterpole of analytic exactness. Posted by: persiflo | Aug 20 2026 21:42 utc | 32 You’ve got it exactly right: I’m not a musician at all, just a lover of good music. Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 20 2026 21:53 utc | 33 that is interesting what you say of orthodox being put in a defensive position and the results implied by that.. Posted by: juliania | Aug 20 2026 22:00 utc | 34 To Exile and other resident antisemitic propagandists: Posted by: Soviético | Aug 20 2026 22:19 utc | 36 Posted by: Soviético | Aug 20 2026 22:19 utc | 36 Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 20 2026 22:23 utc | 37 TEIP: Sina Rahmani: ‘The (UN) Banning of The East is a Podcast’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 20 2026 22:37 utc | 39 Sovietico@36: Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 20 2026 22:43 utc | 40 https://xcancel.com/TruthFairy131/status/2084934264588825086 Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 20 2026 23:08 utc | 41 Kevin has published two new short videos accompanied by text articles that cover important topics that rarely seen here, Chinese robots in suitcases and Trump’s new robot bans: did Tesla just win the humanoid war? and The Urban Mining race: US and Europe already a decade behind, and probably cannot catch up. The latter reminded me of Sanford and Son and how the type of people they portrayed perhaps provided the idea seed, although that likely resulted from Western sanctions from PRC’s outset. In so many ways, the West has powered China’s rise, Chinese have proven they can do Marxian Industrial Capitalism far better than the West. An example is the circular economy, which was an idea implemented before the economy was capable of fueling it. Russia adopted a similar policy after the 2014 sanctions were levied. And China convinced ASEAN nations to follow suit by providing the feedstock. About the magic in a musician’s fingertips – this is, as a metaphore, incomplete; of course a musician is more than their fingertips. But it’s very difficult to trace how spirit and flesh come together to produce music. In one’s body things like heartbeat, breath, tension, wipping of pinkie and earlobe are all related to the ensuing dynamic. My hypothesis is that the basic sine wave can be actuated in various body parts independently, and they all “count”. From this would follow that timingwise outstanding musicians either swing even their pinkies, or the skill can be decoupled from the actual movement into upstream regions of the nervous system with experience — james, any observations on that? Posted by: persiflo | Aug 20 2026 23:36 utc | 43 It has been approved for ICE to use taser gloves on kids for school discipline, which proves if you lay down with dogs you wake up wanting to kill kids. Posted by: ld | Aug 21 2026 0:58 utc | 44 @james, @persiflo, re Kora, the shape of this instrument reminded me of one of my favorite Iranian musical instruments – Kamancheh. Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 21 2026 1:33 utc | 45 Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 20 2026 23:08 utc | 41 Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 21 2026 1:46 utc | 46 Thanks for your point, sovietico. Posted by: Suresh | Aug 21 2026 1:55 utc | 47 Posted by: Suresh | Aug 20 2026 19:27 utc | 14 & Nemesis 17 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 21 2026 2:49 utc | 48 Posted by: duck n cover | Aug 20 2026 18:05 utc | 7 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 21 2026 2:57 utc | 49 the planned collapse of the western economies Posted by: ld | Aug 21 2026 2:59 utc | 50 James, re: the Alon Mizrahi podcast I posted about on previous thread– it’s on “The Mizrahi Perspective” on Substack. I think recent — it says “yesterday,” but I’m ______ if I can find where there is a date on the post. The title is “Nobody Wants to be Jewish (or Christian or Muslim; that’s why they invented Zionism”. Misrahi is wearing a white T-shirt on this post. About the link, if I press a choice from some kind of list on right screen, it gives me option for link, so I hit that choice but ______ again if I can find the link then, not to mention reproducing it. Is it this _________ Android 11 phone or is it I? My sister sent me her 2nd hand iPhone, so maybe if I ever learn that, I’ll become more adept. And this from an old Luddite who seeths at the necessity of using limited brain energy on tech. And having recently experiencing a (nother) stroke (maybe why I bang on quite a bit lately, not sure but feel a need to explain myself), will probably be gone before I learn how to learn tech (no energy for it). In another lifetime, I actually worked as a publications prod mgr., buying among other technologies (4-color separations of art for book reproduction) also bought monotype typesetting even (so long dead mind you) eventually became a pilot person for the introduction into trade publications of earliest Atek inhouse typesetting system, work subsequently done inhouse, thus eliminating the typesetting business and jobs of very skilled artizan workers, and downsrading my own job level ultimately. So long ago, remembered by only a few. @25 persiflo …but why try to recreate what instruments are naturally already ? It takes a lot of playing just to get a feel for any particular instrument, and that is with all the various senses of touch each one allows to be understood. For example, you could make a string sound like steel or nylon, but the actual feel would still be of whatever one was used to provide the initial sound. I think synthesised music is just better as its own avenue, where it does not try to be a real instrument. Though I suppose incorporating facets that are present on normal instruments is not wrong at all, it should not be to mimic as a replacement, because that is not possible, bluntly. Only a plain instrument will be a plain instrument, in total. Otoh though it means other possibilities are more open. I have the same experience with metal detectors, some are an unprocessed signal that just sounds what the detector ‘hears’, they are very direct and alive. Other include a lot of processing, to change tone for metal type or to create ground tone along with object tone etc. . Those can help make the information clearer, can be fun, but they lack the sense of contact with a straight signal. Also tuning, where far out of tune (particularly chords) can sound uncomfortable, I find perfect equal tuning harsh, even unpleasant. People get used to a certain approach I think, and also the different modes to match harmonics have been understood for a long time. I only listened so far to a little of that first link, and the closeness and interplay reminded me of some spanish guitarists I have listened to. It is very nice music. If you imagine previously, strings were not standard and so both the tuning and technique had to be adapted to a degree. To a lesser extent, I always tune without tuner, using harmonics or frets or combination of those, depending, add some compensation for where I know the instrument is not exact, and then still tune by ear while playing , with experience after a while you can tell which string/s are not acceptable for that particular composition for example. It is normal people insist/compete over tuning, someone else playing out of tune in an enssemble will be noticed. However soloists have much more room, because they can adapt their ‘own sound’ without it sounding to far out to the listener. It will even sound ‘normal’ as in ‘that is its charm or how it is supposed to be’ , which would be true also (except to someone used to fixed tuning). Flute is an extreme example, exact tuning is not possible, even on Boehm. Then there is variation of perception or steadiness of who is tuning the flute, differences between future players of airflow, position and more besides. There is a tale about these people trying to get a flute to play in tune, so they ask a jazz flautist because he is a professional, he plays off a tune … ‘fine flute’ he says. The point being that the jazz flautist has learned how to play any note in and out of tune. Just rambling off my thoughts on all that is all :- ) Posted by: Ornot | Aug 21 2026 3:35 utc | 52 Another thought. James, I think you had wondered in a previous thread how China and India have become so different. An important reason imo: China eliminated the land -holding activity of private landowners. The Chinese state owns the land in China. In India, in spite of communist insurgencies and various peasant actions and having a very large number of active parties, has never been able to make a dent into the large landholding class. It’s not very unusual that if a itinerant land-working Dalit or anyone from that class, should incur upon a large land owner’s holding needing a bathroom — India being shamefully without public toilets — this poor peasant can be shot for that and no legal recourse whatsoever. What ever I may think of whether China will be able to keep its massive working class happy making barbies and other plastic trivia and boxes from which if one ever removes the contents, do not expect esp. if old hands, to ever be able to get them back in again (I have experience with a multitude of Chinese products due to keeping aquariums) and so much excessive stuff in addition to much useful. (Imagine how many more boxes of plastic gadgets can be fit on a mega, mega container than if 1″ of space were left in a mini box); China has brought the society out of that appalling level of poverty that spreads over India. Nobody wants to be Jewish Posted by: ld | Aug 21 2026 3:58 utc | 54 Coal wasn’t dead after all. Entering another (mini) super cycle, together with supply disruption in Indonesia and potentially China.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 21 2026 5:10 utc | 56 Housing prices in the west still have a long way down.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 21 2026 5:18 utc | 57 Einstein did his job long ago… derailed physics for over a hundred years. His wife was the mathematician. TOR is mostly bullshit, with a few Earth-centric ‘facts’ thrown in. Posted by: Nor am I | Aug 21 2026 5:34 utc | 58 Jewish State Senator Jeremy Moss Faces Backlash over Hot Mic Comments, Posted by: Exile | Aug 21 2026 5:37 utc | 59
https://x.com/AITrailblazerQ/status/2090601534795206912 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 21 2026 5:37 utc | 60
Posted by: too scents | Aug 21 2026 5:42 utc | 61 Posted by: ld | Aug 21 2026 3:58 utc | 54 Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 21 2026 6:23 utc | 62 Posted by: Exile | Aug 21 2026 5:37 utc | 59 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 21 2026 6:33 utc | 63 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 21 2026 6:33 utc | 63 Posted by: Exile | Aug 21 2026 6:36 utc | 64 Posted by: Exile | Aug 21 2026 6:36 utc | 64 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 21 2026 6:38 utc | 65 Kora: … seems about the maximum height I can think of. Posted by: jopalolive | Aug 21 2026 6:46 utc | 66 Enjoy, Posted by: jopalolive | Aug 21 2026 6:56 utc | 67 AI will state that the Aulos could not produce Binary Beats, but common sense says otherwise. Put one flute of the binary flute on one side of the head, and the other on the other side. Posted by: jopalolive | Aug 21 2026 7:15 utc | 68 Spain has 11 times the GDP of Morocco, so in a border dispute Spain wins. /sarc Posted by: The Far Side | Aug 21 2026 7:18 utc | 69 @Melaleuca | Aug 20 2026 23:08 utc | 41
In June, I travelled to Peru with family and friends to study first hand the many megalithic sites there. They are evidences of a world history in need of significant revision. Human civilization did not appear for the first time in Mesopotamia 5000 years ago, it was instead a reboot of civilization lost in a cataclysm but leaving behind megalithic evidence all around the world. Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 21 2026 7:27 utc | 70 Japan’s post WWII vassalage to the USA is running out of road. Posted by: too scents | Aug 21 2026 8:16 utc | 71 Norwegian, Posted by: Exile | Aug 21 2026 8:23 utc | 72 Bishop Quiroga Posted by: Exile | Aug 21 2026 8:26 utc | 73 Bishop Quiroga Posted by: too scents | Aug 21 2026 8:33 utc | 74 Imran Khan transferred to hospital by order of the Supreme Court for medical examinations.
Posted by: too scents | Aug 21 2026 8:43 utc | 75 Torturers hiding behind the tortured, they have no excuse, not now, not later, whoever they are.
Posted by: js | Aug 21 2026 9:39 utc | 76 Re : Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 21 2026 7:27 utc | 70 Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 21 2026 9:52 utc | 77 Nor am I | Aug 21 2026 5:34 utc | 58 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 21 2026 10:31 utc | 78 Enjoy, Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 21 2026 1:33 utc | 45 Posted by: jopalolive | Aug 21 2026 10:35 utc | 79 The Chinese recently made claims about an old civilisation. Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 21 2026 10:44 utc | 80 I asked AI about the Andes Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 21 2026 11:04 utc | 81 Forgotten People 3 min Posted by: jopalolive | Aug 21 2026 11:07 utc | 82
Posted by: Exile | Aug 21 2026 11:47 utc | 83 .It really appears as if the universe is a mathematical design. Posted by: Nor am I | Aug 21 2026 12:07 utc | 84 Just got to this – well worth the hour – Glen Diesen Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 21 2026 12:08 utc | 85
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 21 2026 12:10 utc | 86 Now to some Chinese erudition – Glen Diesen – another good hour Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 21 2026 12:14 utc | 87 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 21 2026 11:04 utc | 81
Casualties
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Current Situation
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The situation remains fluid, with ongoing military engagements and diplomatic efforts to resolve the conflict.” Posted by: jopalolive | Aug 21 2026 12:27 utc | 88
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Aug 21 2026 12:55 utc | 89 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 21 2026 2:49 utc | 48 Posted by: Duck n cover | Aug 21 2026 13:00 utc | 90 Einar Tangen: Japan’s Economic Crisis & Why the U.S. Is Next Posted by: too scents | Aug 21 2026 13:01 utc | 91 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 21 2026 2:49 utc | 48 Posted by: Duck n cover | Aug 21 2026 13:04 utc | 92 For all the music heads here: I’ve been working on a set of music all made by guitar loops. Hope some here dig it! Posted by: Caveman | Aug 21 2026 13:06 utc | 93 The vine is dried up, and the fig tree is decayed: the pomegranate tree and the palm tree, and the apple tree, even all the trees of the field are withered: surely the joy is withered away from the sons of men. Joel 1 Posted by: Duck n cover | Aug 21 2026 13:17 utc | 95 Your heart is an oven, full of ashes. Posted by: Duck n cover | Aug 21 2026 13:23 utc | 96 “…our ship of State, Posted by: Duck n cover | Aug 21 2026 13:36 utc | 97 Posted by: Exile | Aug 21 2026 13:09 utc | 94 Posted by: Duck n cover | Aug 21 2026 13:42 utc | 98 @ Exile | Aug 21 2026 11:47 utc | 83
Everything that precedes, too. It is a big red flag about the capacity of critical analysis of one’s sources. Posted by: SG | Aug 21 2026 14:42 utc | 99 In some recent podcast with Michael Hudson he talked about his coming book about the history of money since the Roman times [maybe longer] and what caught my attention was the calling out of Pope Bob’s predecessor’s approval of usury and running finance until turning it over to the God Of Mammon cult that has evolved to what it is today. Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 21 2026 14:43 utc | 100 |
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