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August 13, 2026
Open (Not Ukraine or Iran) Thread 2026-172
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Iran …
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Bai Xiaoyun
Posted by: Menz | Aug 13 2026 12:21 utc | 1 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L2lbYBLDbYU&pp=ygUVSm9obiBsZW5ub24gd29tYW4gaXMg Posted by: Duck n cover | Aug 13 2026 13:05 utc | 2 Chris Hedges: Whitney Webb: ‘Why Data Centers’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 13 2026 13:10 utc | 3 3 corrected: Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 13 2026 13:14 utc | 4 When does the earth start receiving some benefit from all the solar panels and EVs and windmills and all the eco-friendly capitalist “do good by shopping better” business going on? Posted by: Duck n cover | Aug 13 2026 13:23 utc | 5 “The future of humanity is to create a sentient sun.” Elon Musk. Posted by: Duck n cover | Aug 13 2026 13:31 utc | 6 Earlier in week i was looking for a sega genesis emulator. Wanted to share some of the excellent 2 player games w my son. Look which one i chose:) Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 13 2026 13:32 utc | 7 Posted by: Menz | Aug 13 2026 12:21 utc | 1 The US is Now Using the ‘Terrorist’ Label to Interfere in Brazil’s Election Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 13 2026 14:02 utc | 9 Jim Rickards: The Iran Bet Trump Is Losing, Case for $10K Gold, & The Trade That Could Break Markets
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 13 2026 14:10 utc | 10 not sure where to put this.. from 3 hours ago… 52 minute video with glenn diesen… covers iran, russia, and european union dynamics.. Posted by: james | Aug 13 2026 15:20 utc | 12 Derek Henry et.al., Posted by: Exile | Aug 13 2026 15:59 utc | 13 https://www.lewrockwell.com/2026/08/jayant-bhandari/why-china-works-and-india-does-not/ Posted by: Caliman | Aug 13 2026 16:18 utc | 14 Pubblicato da: Exile | 13 agosto 2026 15:59 UTC | 13 Posted by: Cagliostro | Aug 13 2026 16:54 utc | 15
Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 13 2026 16:58 utc | 16 Want to know why there is a populist revolt in Ireland? 80% of the Irish people reject the Martin-Harris EU immigration policy as destructive of the Irish people, culture, sports and faith. Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 13 2026 16:59 utc | 17 https://nitter.net/IbrahimMajed/status/2087566204676292629 Posted by: Simoen | Aug 13 2026 16:59 utc | 18 @9 John Gilbert Posted by: Soviético | Aug 13 2026 17:02 utc | 19 I don’t understand why – even here – people point to Trump, as the cause of US perfidy. Posted by: Featherless | Aug 13 2026 17:53 utc | 20 Why do even the informed often complain about Trump, Trump, Trump ? Posted by: too scents | Aug 13 2026 18:01 utc | 21 Everyone use qubes os recommended by Edward snowden buy with it preinstalled on certified hardware… hardware includes coreboot and heads Posted by: Bob Bob Bob Bob | Aug 13 2026 18:08 utc | 22 Did anyone else’s X account get suspended for “Inauthentic behavior”? Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Aug 13 2026 18:29 utc | 23 Re: Living Car Free Posted by: Exile | Aug 13 2026 18:33 utc | 24 Posted by: Featherless | Aug 13 2026 17:53 utc | 20 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 13 2026 18:56 utc | 25 The friendship paradox: why pro-Russian activists are being imprisoned in Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan (EADaily, Alan Pukhayev, August 13, 2026 — in Russian; emphasis mine)
Posted by: S | Aug 13 2026 19:15 utc | 26 Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Aug 13 2026 18:29 utc | 23 Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 13 2026 19:18 utc | 27 Posted by: Soviético | Aug 13 2026 17:02 utc | 19 Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 13 2026 19:46 utc | 28 El. 14 mins. Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 13 2026 19:50 utc | 29 Chris Hedges: Whitney Webb: ‘Why Data Centers’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qbs91vQmg Posted by: e-dog | Aug 13 2026 20:12 utc | 30 [repost]
I wonder how Canadians explain to themselves their protection of mass murderers of civilians from accountability. Posted by: S | Aug 13 2026 20:13 utc | 31
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 13 2026 20:18 utc | 32 MALIAN FORCES KILLED OVER 1,800 MILITANTS IN LAST TWO MONTHS Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 13 2026 19:46 utc | 28 Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 13 2026 20:19 utc | 34 @ S | Aug 13 2026 20:13 utc | 31 Posted by: james | Aug 13 2026 20:47 utc | 35
Well, it looks like in this particular case Canadian governments were trying to do the right thing: Helmut Oberlander (Wikipedia). Posted by: S | Aug 13 2026 21:07 utc | 36 @ Caliman | Aug 13 2026 16:18 utc | 14 Posted by: james | Aug 13 2026 21:08 utc | 37 @ S | Aug 13 2026 21:07 utc | 36 Posted by: james | Aug 13 2026 21:13 utc | 38 S | Aug 13 2026 19:15 utc | 26— How sanctions are avoided, Russian sanctions fail again: a new, faster financial system outside USD and SWIFT in 11-minutes. This lends greater credence to what BRICS is discussing as the focus is on payment systems, not currencies per se. I suspect dollar velocity has slowed by several orders of magnitude from what it was merely 6 months ago and is stressing out Bessant, and there’s nothing he or his Gang can do. Plus, there’s the ongoing revenue slowdown thanks to the recession Trump caused with his Tariff War and tax cuts. On Tuesday morning I went out into the heat, came back to heat, and have taken a day to restore garden and myself to heatlessness. BUT also a great find came to me down waiting for the bus at our town freebie shelf, so on discovery that not much has happened here in my absence, I want to give two excerpts from the freebie volume that told me to take it, and then my own conclusion, so just two posts to contemplate:
Posted by: juliania | Aug 13 2026 23:14 utc | 41 🙂 Oh Tannenhouser, arcade noises brings back happy memories of the wilder mimicked bird calls of yesteryear… Posted by: titmouse | Aug 13 2026 23:16 utc | 42
Posted by: juliania | Aug 13 2026 23:55 utc | 43 A story I told my daughter at an appropriate age. Posted by: Suresh | Aug 14 2026 0:02 utc | 44 The Outlaws are at it again, Issuing ‘digital passport’ in Panama – US overreach goes too far: Global Times editorial – Global Times Desperation Blues. I’m sure some Barflies will be interested in this, Exclusive: Scholars trace Imperial Japanese Army’s germ-warfare outrage across Asia, calling for preventing atrocities from recurring – Global Times Adding a clarification to my two posts above: When I said ‘… not much had happened here in my absence… ‘ I meant here in my garden and house, not of course here on b’s forum, which I’m still in the process of catching up with after two days absence. One step at a time…. Posted by: juliania | Aug 14 2026 0:58 utc | 47 “It was only during the conversation, based on the algorithm’s responses, that the relevance of sharing them became apparent.” Posted by: Tak-Tik | Aug 14 2026 1:04 utc | 48 Why do even the informed often complain about Trump, Trump, Trump ? Posted by: Nor am I | Aug 14 2026 1:06 utc | 49 Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Aug 13 2026 18:29 utc | 23 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 14 2026 1:18 utc | 50 Karlof1@40 Posted by: Bingo | Aug 14 2026 1:22 utc | 51 ‘The authorities of Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan talk about friendship with Russia, but in practice, they are creating a system where this friendship is punishable.’ – S 26 On the shores of the Caspian Sea, American giants like Chevron and ExxonMobil run massive, ultra-modern industrial compounds. These are practically corporate cities unto themselves, built with Western technology to extract oil from some of the deepest known fields in the world. Western logistics firms and banks are funding the physical widening of ports, rail lines, and dry docks along Kazakhstan’s western coast – Port of Kuryk for example – to build an ‘escape hatch’ for shipping goods directly to Europe while avoiding Russian territory. At the same time, Khazakkstan is entirely under Russia’s military umbrella and plugs into its electrical grid. They host CSTO military combat exercises and Rosatom works hand in glove Kazatomprom. China maintains the Shymkent refinery and the Khorgos Gateway. China is selling Kazakhstan military equipment that is ‘dual-use’ but is its own stack entirely – completely different engineering standards, software systems, and data protocols. It can be used ‘alongside’ existing Russian tech or it can completely bypass Russian systems. — JANUARY 2025 Chevron Launches $48 Billion Tengiz Oilfield Expansion, Sets to Boost Global Oil Supply SEPTEMBER 2025 Kazakhstan’s Emerging Civilian Nuclear Energy Industry: Implications for U.S. Strategic Interests JUNE 2026 Astana meeting aims to spark deals for critical minerals Astana offering favorable terms to attract investors ‘The Trump administration is helping promote foreign investment in Central Asia’s mining sector, mobilizing government agencies, especially the Export-Import Bank of the United States and the US Development Finance Corp. (DFC), to help de-risk dealmaking. The US delegation at the Astana meeting will include the heads of the Ex-Im Bank and the DFC, along with top mining-sector executives including the founder of Ivanhoe Mines, Robert Friedland, and former Anglo American CEO Mark Cutifani. Meanwhile, Kazakhstan is taking steps to facilitate investment by allowing investors to retain a majority share in projects. Kazakh officials point to a recently finalized tungsten deal as a role model, in which an American consortium known as Kaz Resources Inc. will develop major deposits in Kazakhstan, with the American entity retaining 70 percent of the shares in the project, while the Kazakh government retains the remaining 30 percent.’ Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 14 2026 1:28 utc | 52 How sanctions are avoided, Russian sanctions fail again: a new, faster financial system outside USD and SWIFT in 11-minutes. This lends greater credence to what BRICS is discussing as the focus is on payment systems, not currencies per se. I suspect dollar velocity has slowed by several orders of magnitude from what it was merely 6 months ago and is stressing out Bessant, and there’s nothing he or his Gang can do. Plus, there’s the ongoing revenue slowdown thanks to the recession Trump caused with his Tariff War and tax cuts. Posted by: Woke American | Aug 14 2026 1:36 utc | 53 This lends greater credence to what BRICS is discussing as the focus is on payment systems, not currencies per se. I suspect dollar velocity has slowed by several orders of magnitude from what it was merely 6 months ago and is stressing out Bessant, and there’s nothing he or his Gang can do. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2026 1:58 utc | 54 Bingo & Woke American– Today, on the August 13th, 1961 – the Berlin Wall began to exist. Posted by: fanto | Aug 14 2026 2:48 utc | 56 correction: “in 1960s – barely few years later…” should be above Posted by: fanto | Aug 14 2026 2:50 utc | 57 @ fanto | Aug 14 2026 2:48 utc | 56 Posted by: james | Aug 14 2026 3:04 utc | 58 ‘payment systems, not currencies’ China, Russia, India, the US all desire strict top-down CBDC digital platforms that are centralized ledgers explicitly controlled by each nation’s central bank. This is total surveillance as every transaction is immediately directly recorded and stored in a government ledger. These new ‘currency entities’ aren’t seriously linked to underlying raw earths any more than fiat was ever seriously linked to gold. What is happening now is countries are maximizing state leverage on both international and domestic fronts in order to secure jurisdictions for their top-down control apparatus. BIS was originally involved with MBridge. — October 2022 Project mBridge: connecting economies through CBDC Joint report by the BIS Innovation Hub Hong Kong Centre, the Hong Kong Monetary Authority, the Bank of Thailand, the Digital Currency Institute of the People’s Bank of China and the Central Bank of the United Arab Emirates. https://www.bis.org/publ/othp59.htm October 2024 BIS hands over mBridge CBDC payment system after BRICS controversy ‘The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) has been involved with the mBridge cross border CBDC payment system for four years. Today the General Manager of the BIS, Agustín Carstens, said the project has been handed over to the central banks. They are the central banks of China, Hong Kong, Saudi Arabia, Thailand and the UAE. mBridge uses blockchain to enable commercial banks to make cross border payments using wholesale central bank digital currencies (wCBDCs). The design supports local currency payments. The G20 has goals of making cross border payments faster, cheaper and more transparent. mBridge is one of the potential solutions to make that happen. https://www.ledgerinsights.com/bis-hands-over-mbridge-cbdc-payment-system-after-brics-controversy/ May 2026 After MBridge and Agora, Multilateral CBDC Interoperability Is Dead When the Bank for International Settlements walked away from Project mBridge on October 31, 2024, BIS General Manager Agustín Carstens called it a graduation. The framing has not survived the eighteen months since. mBridge has processed roughly $55.5 billion across more than 4,000 cross-border transactions. Approximately 95 percent of that volume settled in digital yuan. The current participant list is the People’s Bank of China, the Hong Kong Monetary Authority, the Bank of Thailand, the Central Bank of the UAE, and Saudi Arabia’s SAMA, which joined as a full participant in 2024. No Western central bank. In the same year BIS exited mBridge, it launched Project Agorá with seven G7-aligned central banks and more than forty private institutions including JPMorgan, Citi, HSBC, and SWIFT. The testing phase is expected to deliver findings in the first half of 2026. Most coverage has treated these as two parallel CBDC experiments. They are not. They are competing answers to the same question, sponsored by competing blocs, with no overlapping membership. The era of multilateral CBDC interoperability is over. That was the central idea behind the BIS Innovation Hub’s payments work. June 2026 mBridge cross border CBDC payment platform ready to commercialize It has been two years since the launch of the minimum viable product for the mBridge initiative, which supports cross border payments using multiple wholesale central bank digital currencies (wCBDC). Now the Financial Times has reported that it is ready for the commercialization phase, and is considering incorporating in Hong Kong. While the project was initiated by the Bank of Thailand and the Hong Kong Monetary Authority, it was joined by the BIS as coordinator, the People’s Bank of China (PBoC), the Central Bank of the UAE and later the Saudi Central Bank. The BIS subsequently withdrew. Key benefits of the project include greater speed and lower cost, which could especially appeal to smaller businesses, and it also reduces dependence on Swift. China took on a central role as technology developer, and many now view the platform as Chinese, with the Financial Times describing it as drawing “Beijing closer to its ‘Belt and Road’ trading partners”. At the start of the year, the PBoC released figures showing RMB 387 billion in transactions ($57 billion), with more than 95% denominated in RMB. The dominance of China’s currency is partly because other participants had not yet officially launched their wCBDCs, with the UAE unveiling theirs in November 2025. The Financial Times reported that mBridge transactions have grown to RMB 470bn ($69bn) according to sources. — So we can see that Hong Kong remains the place where west and east ‘meet’ financially and The Hong Kong Monetary Authority (HKMA) is one of the primary drivers of mBridge and remains strictly tied to the US dollar and British common law. Hong Kong is also pursuing their own digital token, the HKMA, which may have interoperability between the respective digital systems they are creating and forcing on us, The e-HKD may serve as the interoperability bridge between the Agora-SWIFT and mBridge-CIPS systems. Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 14 2026 3:06 utc | 59 James @58 Posted by: fanto | Aug 14 2026 3:21 utc | 60 Posted by: S | Aug 13 2026 19:15 utc | 26
Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 14 2026 3:22 utc | 61 @ fanto | Aug 14 2026 3:21 utc | 60 Posted by: james | Aug 14 2026 3:32 utc | 62 what is the international law basis for still retaining the ship 2 months later?? Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2026 4:05 utc | 63 @ Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2026 4:05 utc | 63 Posted by: james | Aug 14 2026 4:31 utc | 64 Sebgo | Aug 14 2026 3:22 utc | 61 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2026 4:56 utc | 65 Since you raise the topic: Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 14 2026 5:14 utc | 66 @28. Don Firineach Posted by: Soviético | Aug 14 2026 5:26 utc | 67 48 days remaining in Fiscal Year. Status as of 12.August Posted by: exile | Aug 14 2026 5:29 utc | 68
Posted by: exile | Aug 14 2026 5:33 utc | 69 Trump’s Ex-Wife Reveals President Kept Kabbalistic Text Close To His Heart For “Protection And Healing”
Posted by: exile | Aug 14 2026 5:37 utc | 70 Posted by: Soviético | Aug 14 2026 5:26 utc | 68 Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 14 2026 5:52 utc | 71 Soviético | Aug 14 2026 5:26 utc | 68 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2026 6:34 utc | 72 Sorry if my piece didn’t sound serious enough — I was thinking of it as similar to some of the lovely tunes being offered a few nights ago as a bit of musical relief, and it rather shed light on some of our philosophical discussions as well. But also, it took me back to childhood in New Zealand when a friend of my mothers married one of the US military chaps camped in NZ during WW2. That good friend would send us the Saturday Evening Post, whole parcels of them, from faraway New York State when I was a young one. Life magazine as well. Posted by: juliania | Aug 14 2026 6:55 utc | 73 Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 14 2026 0:56 utc | 46 Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 14 2026 7:11 utc | 74 Some people need to stop believing that sympathizing with Russia implies a desire to cease existing culturally and politically in order to be absorbed by Russia.That only serves to confirm certain accusations of expansionism and imperialism. Posted by: Woke American | Aug 14 2026 9:11 utc | 75 Posted by: S | Aug 13 2026 19:15 utc | 26 Posted by: Woke American | Aug 14 2026 9:22 utc | 76 The content of this post seems to have come from Jesse Ventura’s programs. Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 14 2026 9:24 utc | 77
Well, Alan Pukhayev seems to be on top of it when it comes to Western meddling in Central Asia (that includes Turkish meddling, as many believe the UK to be behind, or at least assisting, the pan-Turkic project). You can see all articles by him on this page: https://eadaily.com/ru/author/alan-puhaev . Posted by: S | Aug 14 2026 10:34 utc | 78 Posted by: Woke American | Aug 14 2026 9:11 utc | 75 Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 14 2026 10:41 utc | 79 Sebgo | Aug 14 2026 10:41 utc | 79 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2026 11:14 utc | 80 But contrary to what you seem to believe, Africans are not so ignorant about digital technology and finance that they lack the skills to build their own tools. Posted by: Woke American | Aug 14 2026 11:41 utc | 81 Death to WasNeverReal that will attempt to live as the USrael state that has just been given a doctor frankeinsten monster birth by the US legislatures. Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 14 2026 11:42 utc | 82 Posted by: Woke American | Aug 14 2026 11:41 utc | 81 Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 14 2026 11:48 utc | 83 DunGroanin | Aug 14 2026 11:42 utc | 82 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2026 11:52 utc | 84
What Pukhayev meant was economic integration or, more precisely, preservation of the already existing economic integration with Russia (Kazakhstan in a member of EAEU).
None of the jailed Central Asian pro-Russian activists mentioned in Pukhayev’s article were abandoning their countries’ interests, waving Russian flags, demanding to change national language or religion or doing anything of the sort. You are wrong in extrapolating what you observe in certain African countries to Central Asia. The jailed Central Asian pro-Russian activists were doing the exact opposite: defending their countries’ interests. Posted by: S | Aug 14 2026 11:57 utc | 85 And why on earth would we need a Russian tool for trade with China? Posted by: Woke American | Aug 14 2026 12:07 utc | 86 Commodities – in the form of precious metals as they are least bulky, or some internation unit of measure. I believe early on it was India that opposed an international currency/unit of measure. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2026 12:12 utc | 87 Posted by: S | Aug 14 2026 11:57 utc | 85 Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 14 2026 12:17 utc | 88 Posted by: Woke American | Aug 14 2026 12:07 utc | 86 Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 14 2026 12:30 utc | 89 Most African countries naturally continue to use all Western platforms, because in some cases they have no choice. What has changed is that it is no longer exclusive.
Posted by: too scents | Aug 14 2026 12:32 utc | 90 @ Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 14 2026 11:48 utc | 84“Maybe we will find a common independant platform in the future.” Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 14 2026 12:32 utc | 91 re: e-dog | Aug 13 2026 20:12 utc | 30 “Chris Hedges: Whitney Webb: ‘Why Data Centers’” Posted by: Perimetr | Aug 14 2026 13:00 utc | 92 In Africa they have their own national currencies mostly. MTN Mobile money, used in east Africa is a South African group, and Airtel Indian group. M-Pesa is a joint thing between Vodafone (UK) and Safaricom (Kenya). Posted by: unimperator | Aug 14 2026 13:02 utc | 93 Yes, I’ve been there too. Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 14 2026 13:02 utc | 94 Posted by: exile | Aug 14 2026 5:37 utc | 70 Posted by: Duck n cover | Aug 14 2026 13:06 utc | 95 A damning analysis on the Greenland oil play.
— repost without youtube timestamp links. Posted by: too scents | Aug 14 2026 13:10 utc | 96 Posted by: too scents | Aug 14 2026 12:32 utc | 90 Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 14 2026 13:14 utc | 97 The European athletic championships are currently being held in Birmingham. Posted by: RealPeter | Aug 14 2026 13:29 utc | 98 “I found it hard to realize that Russia and China also had capitalists whose greed rivaled that of the worst Western scoundrels. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2026 13:30 utc | 99
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