Is Trump Offering Mustang ‘Beef’?

August 22, 2026

One wonders about the relation between these two news items …

Under Trump, Protected Wild Horses Are Going to Slaughter (archived) – NY Times, Aug 20 2026

They once had run free through the desert mountains of the West, a multicolored band of 68 wild mustangs that had never been saddled or corralled.

Then the federal government rounded them up with helicopters, as it has with tens of thousands of other mustangs, in an attempt to control wild populations on public lands.
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The horses were packed into echoing metal trailers and trucked 1,800 miles east to the pens of a hard-luck livestock trader in Ohio named Brandon Jones, who bought them for $25 each.

A day later, two double-decker cattle trucks pulled up at midnight, loaded the mustangs and quickly drove off into the night.

From there the mustangs disappeared. They never appeared at a public auction. The trader won’t say where they went. Wild horse advocates suspect the horses were shipped to slaughter.
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It wasn’t the first time, or the last. In the past year, the government has shipped the trader one truckload of mustangs after another. And not just him.

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Donald Trump bizarrely refuses to confirm which countries have signed new beef deal – The Mirror US via MSN, Aug 22 2026

Writing on his own Truth Social platform on Friday, Trump announced the US would allow an additional 300,000 metric tons of ground beef to be imported without additional tariffs being imposed on suppliers. The President claimed the deal would “substantially lower the price of ground beef for working American families”.
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“We have a commitment that this beef will be sold at 25 per cent below current market prices. This deal will reduce prices for Americans while giving space for our Great American Beef Herd to grow again.”
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A reporter can be heard asking: “On that beef deal, which countries did you make that deal with?” Trump cuts her off, asking: “Which deal?”, to which she responds: “The beef deal.”

Responding, Trump says: “I don’t want to say which countries, but there are a few countries, but they’re going to be sending in the highest quality beef, and it’s something that we need.”

Does it matter?

Isn’t it a wonder of nature that beasts fed on grass taste so well?

</snark>

Posted by b on August 22, 2026 at 16:26 UTC | Permalink

Comments

Larry Johnson’s historical account of hypocritical US support of Sunni terrorism (ISIS/ISIL and Al Qaeda) for its own purposes to destroy Iran, weaken Russia, and supporting Zionist aims in Syria, is excellent today.

https://sonar21.com/feeding-the-enemy-how-washingtons-obsession-with-iran-subverted-its-own-war-on-sunni-terror/

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Aug 23 2026 6:38 utc | 101

They could bring in millions.

Posted by: willie | Aug 23 2026 6:19 utc | 100

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Nah. 42.50SFr/kg, or about $24/lb.

https://www.coop.ch/de/lebensmittel/fleisch-fisch/abgepacktes-frischfleisch/pferd/pferde-steak-1-stueck-ca/p/4117258?

Posted by: too scents | Aug 23 2026 7:13 utc | 102

Posted by: Persona Non Grata | Aug 23 2026 2:39 utc | 86

Tom Osborn

Skip wins (again): (Video (0:11)
https://x.com/call_me_tomasso/status/2090281338054357428

Posted by: Menz | Aug 23 2026 7:31 utc | 103

Posted by: too scents | Aug 23 2026 7:13 utc | 102
Nah. 42.50SFr/kg, or about $24/lb.
That’s horse dead by accident or old age,not vigorous young healthy mustangs.When they herd mustangs in to vans or trainwagons using helicopters it’s impossible to charge 25 bucks a beast and make profit.Any peasant can tell you that….

Posted by: willie | Aug 23 2026 8:42 utc | 104

Here in Germany, we’ve noticed over the past six to eight weeks that beef is rarely available at discount supermarkets—unlike the regular supply we were used to.
Whether this is linked to farmers selling their cattle to other customers hardly matters in Germany, since all purchasing—whether cattle, pigs, sheep, etc.—is handled by large meat processing companies; what they do with the meat and where they ship it never becomes public knowledge.We customers simply notice the missing stock; without this article, we might have spotted the shortage but never connected it to the US. Beef is hard to find in Germany outside of high-end stores and small butcher shops, and prices—for beef roulades, for example—have jumped from around €19 per kilo to over €28.
When asked when roulades will be back in stock, the answer is simply that there is too little supply on the market right now.

Posted by: genesiss | Aug 23 2026 8:43 utc | 105

Posted by: willie | Aug 23 2026 8:42 utc | 104

In Germany, the current slaughter price for a horse generally ranges from €0.50 to €1.50 per kilogram of live weight. For a large, heavy horse or warmblood weighing around 600 kg, this yields a return of approximately €300 to €800, depending on meat quality, weight, and region. Horse meat is by far the most expensive meat at the counter—if, that is, it is available at all.

Nowadays, however, many people avoid it, while others praise it as a delicacy.

Note:

During the GDR era, horse meat was one of the cheapest types of meat, costing less than one East German mark per kilogram.That changed when Italy—primarily—bought up all the horses to secure foreign currency; horse butcher shops went bankrupt and closed one after another. (My family had founded such a shop in Leipzig in 1897; it went out of business in 1976.)

Back then, customers would line up outside the door as early as 5 a.m. and wait until 8 a.m., because the supply never lasted for everyone—from salami, cooked sausage, roasting cuts, and roulade meat to the famous *Rostbratwurst* (grilled sausages), which were often bought in quantities large enough to fill baby bathtubs.

In the final years, due to a shortage of horses, we were only able to open for a single day every two weeks.

Posted by: genesiss | Aug 23 2026 8:54 utc | 106

we’ve noticed over the past six to eight weeks that beef is rarely available at discount supermarkets

Posted by: genesiss | Aug 23 2026 8:43 utc | 105

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While I can’t speak to meat that goes to “discount” markets, March calved cattle isn’t ready for slaughter until September or October. Animals that spend the Summer outside generally aren’t butchered until Autumn.

Meat is seasonal.

Posted by: too scents | Aug 23 2026 8:58 utc | 107

Posted by: genesiss | Aug 23 2026 8:54 utc | 106
Thanks,genesiss for your interesting family story.The last horse-butchery in my region in France closed shop some fifteen years ago.

Posted by: willie | Aug 23 2026 9:11 utc | 108

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Aug 23 2026 6:38 utc | 101

ISIS/Al queda/etc. with hind sight are most likely sheep dipped IDF with some Mercs thrown in.
recall this scheme…..

Operation Ulysses:

“Revealed: In 1950s Mossad spies married Arabs to conceal identity
Mossad’s Ulysses Project’s secret operatives took on false identities, married Palestinians, had children – all while feeding intelligence to Israeli operators”

They were planted as Arabs, married Palestinians, had children and were incorporated into the Palestinian community as businessmen. They were the first to provide intelligence regarding the establishment of Fatah, and took part in the first plans to kill Yasser Arafat and Abu Jihad.

Uri Yisrael’s son is 50-years-old today and lives abroad. To this day, he does not know that his father is not a nationalistic Palestinian but an Israeli Mossad agent. He also does not know he has a half-brother: Shai Yisrael, a lawyer, Uri’s son from a Jewish woman.

The story begins in 1950, when Isser Harel, then the director of the Mossad, set up a unit called Ulysses, with the purpose of planting agents within the Palestinian refugee community in the West Bank and in the neighboring countries. The recruits were Jewish Zionists, recent immigrants from Arab countries. They joined the secret unit after Harel and his men convinced them it was a “top priority national mission.”

Source: https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4422919,00.html

Posted by: Exile | Aug 23 2026 9:30 utc | 109

closed shop some fifteen years ago.

Posted by: willie | Aug 23 2026 9:11 utc | 108

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About the same time, or earlier, farmers here in Switzerland were prohibited from slaughtering their animals at home because of hygiene.

Now the animals make a circuitous route from farm to slaughterhouse where the carcass is whole packed and then sent on to the local butcher.

When I lived in Oregon 30 years ago you would dial up the mobile butcher and he would quarter your pig with a chainsaw as it hung from a crane on his truck. Then he’d take it to the local supermarket butcher for cutting and packing. Back then, in that part of the country, every town market had a butcher and a cold locker.

Posted by: too scents | Aug 23 2026 9:32 utc | 110

I am amazed by the responses to b’s post and the number of barflies willing chow down road kill..

I think most have missed the point that Trump would be simply continuing his fraudulent activity if it was indeed horse meat or a mix of horse and beef meat.

Trump loves using big numbers to befuddle an already befuddled nation.

300,000 metric tons or 300 million kgs divided amongst 300 million of the befuddled nations citizens assuming the other 50 million are well off enough to not need to buy it means 1 kg of ground beef per person. Lets assume a price of $8 per kg. A 25% reduction means a saving of $2 per per person.

Whoopee! that’s going to make a big dent on a family’s monthly grocery spend. Wow, talk about stupid this takes the cake.

Posted by: KeithZA | Aug 23 2026 9:35 utc | 111

“Get Him Out Of There Before He Kills Us All”: Sachs Trump Warning

Jeffrey Sachs delivers a blistering assessment of Donald Trump, arguing that the president’s leadership and use of power raise serious concerns about the state of American politics.
Sachs describes Trump in deeply critical terms and argues that the larger problem goes beyond one individual. He says Trump is also a symptom of what he calls a deeply corrupted political system, pointing to presidential war powers, Congress, checks and balances, and America’s long-running foreign policy.
Sachs also sharply criticizes media coverage of Trump, questioning what he sees as the normalization of increasingly extreme rhetoric and decisions. He challenges journalists and political leaders to ask harder questions about presidential power, accountability and the consequences of America’s foreign policy.

Transcript clip (with the ums and uhs edited out):

“…he is psychopathic meaning that there is no empathy for how many people he kills or how much damage is done… the malignant narcissist definition adds paranoia and confabulation to this list. So, I personally think we’re dealing with a psychologically deeply debilitated individual who happens to have a lot of power. And according to one psychologist I was listening to yesterday that I thought made a lot of sense, there’s an element of fronttotemporal dementia added to this that you see through the incoherence of the sentences, the drift of thought and even the confusion of words. So that the words don’t even end uh as they begin.”

Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Aug 23 2026 9:41 utc | 112

300,000 metric tons

Posted by: KeithZA | Aug 23 2026 9:35 utc | 111

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I dare you to google “government cheese”.

Posted by: too scents | Aug 23 2026 9:42 utc | 113

OFF TOPIC :

Please forgive me b.

But this is very, very, very important considering we have had hundreds, if not thousands of neoclassical , neocolonial trained economists and students of neoclassical , neocolonial economics screaming at global bond markets over the last 3 weeks predicting the end of the West.

First, we have to understand what interest rate targeting is when it was introduced by Milton Friedman ‘s Monetarists in the late 70’s and early 80’s out of the dying embers of Bretton Woods.

Interest rate targeting was introduced to deliberately keep a group of people unemployed as an inflation control mechanism, as if it was the natural order of things. By moving interest rates they could create unemployment and thus ease inflation pressures. A very inhumane policy.

This was a far cry from the days when you could quit your job on a Friday and walk into a new job on the Monday which was the norm since the second world war. Because it the private sector couldn’t create enough jobs the government would. They would take a human being as they were and find them a job where they lived. None of this new conservative mantra of ride a bike to find work nonsense.

It’s very interesting that conservatives always want millions of people off welfare, but they never say where the jobs are going to come from to replace the welfare while the private sector continue to shed jobs via technology and productivity gains. Not to mention AI. The central banks are always moving interest rates to destroy jobs to ease inflation pressures. While capitalism continues to win the war against workers.

It was the start of globalisation but more importantly it was the start of creating an economic doctrine that represented NATO and the North Atlantic alliance who then went on to create the Eurozone. A pure neoclassical, neocolonial monetary framework.

This new NATO economic doctrine that was implemented world wide replaced the UN charter. A UN charter based on international law that proclaimed any sovereign nation state could develop economically any way it wished without any interference from the outside. Which BRICS, is trying to keep alive.

Breaking free from Bretton Woods and with the new UN charter in hand , countries were given immense freedom they never had before under the neoclassical, necolonial economics of the British Empire.

The Governments issued their own currency without it being backed by a scarce resource. Its bond obligations were denominated in their own currencies . The interest was paid using their own currencies. Redemptions occur in their own currencies There was no external source from which their own currencies must be obtained, because their governments were the ultimate source of their own currencies. Their central banks as the government’s settlement agent, could always credit accounts. Their Treasurys could redeem bonds whenever they wanted.

Countries thrived, Workers for a bigger share than ever they did under the British Empire monetary framework.

This does not mean their governments faced no spending constraints. It meant the constraints were no longer financial. The real limit was inflation: too much spending relative to the productive capacity available to absorb it. So they planned ahead.

The exchange rate was sometimes invoked at this point as a second constraint, on the grounds that a falling currency raises import costs. But this too dissolved under examination.

Any sale of currency required an equal and opposite purchase of currency If foreign holders become reluctant to save in your currency and sell it, the currency does not vanish — it passes to a new holder.

That new holder’s only aggregate options were to spend the currencywithin your economy or to save it in your currency instruments. The currency circulates closer to home. The real economy adjusts. That adjustment may bring its own pressures, but they were not solvency pressures as they were under the British Empire fixed exchange rate system and pegged to a scarce resource and countries thrived.

Under the new NATO economic doctrine created out of the dying embers of Bretton Woods and kept alive by City of London and Wall street orthodoxy over the last 50 years.

We now observe a sovereign currency issuer voluntarily constraining itself with obsolete doctrines inherited from fixed exchange rate systems, while simultaneously insisting those constraints were natural economic laws.

The economic doctrines of the British Empire were brought back. Neoclassical economic theory returned . It was given a new name the US rules based order. Interest rate targeting returned with a vegence as though preserving unemployment as an anti-inflation device were simply the natural order of things. The IMF and world bank forced countries to borrow in foreign currencies , fiscal rules were implemented from the scarce resource days and free floating currencies are treated as if conversion takes place instead of exchange.

National institutions and international institutions were created to make sure the US rules based order must be followed or countries would be punished. While their banking cartels used the East India company play book and privatised everything in sight.

To keep their City of London and Wall street control alive making sure no change happens . They could issue shorter duration debt. They could cease issuing long-dated debt altogether. They could operate predominantly through Treasury bills. They could remunerate reserves differently.

More importantly they could stop constructing artificial refinancing exposure in order to preserve a particular ideological presentation of fiscal policy. However, that would give the game way.

They could just buy their own debt . Which they did On Friday.

Now the hundreds, if not thousands of neoclassical , neocolonial trained economists and students of neoclassical , neocolonial economics that have been screaming at global bond markets.

Are now scrambling and running around in the dark with their heads up their arse. Where their heads have always belonged.

Posted by: Andrew | Aug 23 2026 10:25 utc | 114

Derek Henry,
23 paragraphs !
Can you give us the 5 sentance version ?

Posted by: Exile | Aug 23 2026 10:37 utc | 115

Posted by: john | Aug 23 2026 10:02 utc | 222

Well, I sure fucked that up…

Let’s try again…

Day of the Cow 1
‘keep your eyes open, be you victim or copthe earth is on fire and you can’t make it stopand you will fry if you can’t flyand when the ground goes cinder the buildings tumble inand you’d rather go to sweden ‘cause the clouds are niceand the weather’s really pleasin’ and they have good riceyou can jump all you want but ownership of the planet soon reverts to the cowthe stately cowtime to sweat or fret is nowit’s so heav’, it’s inev’, the day of the cowwhen bossy stands unbridled, proud, amidst the ruins’ midstand finally ticks off “humans” from her “bad to bossy” listyou can jump all you want but it’s the day of the cowi speak to you as a man who has eaten more meatthan you could shake an androgynous country+slash+torch vocalist ati accept my fiery fateone less day of living per bargain burger platetop of the food chain for nowbut soon to fall to ashes at the hoof of the vengeful cowstudies indicate the cow may have wrath but she does not operatein the realm of the sophisticateand has she the capacity to distinguish twixt broth+dribbler me and the vegan in booth three? time to leave your ivory tow’ watch it tex, it’s inex’, the day of the cow despite one’s best intentions we might all burn equally so though not p.c. it’s hearty arby’s party time for meyou can jump all you want but it’s the day of the cow’https://youtu.be/ZuV-pKtLuhU?si=NN9n31ieT5SfuqtMDay of the Cow 2‘so hush little chicken, go grab your bearfall deep into sleepy and dream of hairand of prime cut steaks running blood+red rare, yeahwell you can beg to the lord to silence the screamsyou can close your eyes to the blood that streamsyou can ask the coen brothers to direct your dreamsbut i know one thing and that’s the earth’s foundation will shake every bone in every body you ever loved is gonna break ain’t it a shame?i know you can’t believe it but it’s bye+byethe night draws nigh you can try to kid yourself that this isn’t happeningit’s entirely too outlandish, but what can i say? it’s time it’s the end of the world as you know it and you don’t feel finejust sit down and wait and take it as well as you cantake it as well as you know howit’s not like other options are open to you nowit’s the day of the cow(hat hat hat hat hat)’https://youtu.be/PCcWenHeY00?si=EpGIx8KVElwP-Yb3

Posted by: john | Aug 23 2026 10:38 utc | 116

it ain’t working…maybe some other time.

Posted by: john | Aug 23 2026 10:39 utc | 117

Day of the Cow 1

Day of the Cow 2

Posted by: john | Aug 23 2026 10:51 utc | 118

Feeding the Enemy: How Washington’s Obsession With Iran Subverted Its Own War on Sunni Terror

I detect a typo in Larry Johnson’s headline: the penultimate word should be “of”, not “on”.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 23 2026 10:57 utc | 119

Red Heffers!

Thats what I got for the beef addicts!

Burnt to dust in some crazed ritual to raise the devils.

not even koshered beef!

Texan Red Heffers to boot.

Thank you for your attention.

That is all.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 23 2026 11:04 utc | 120

It is both, the aim to monetize everything in nature, and the aim to destroy evrrything which breaths or means what is called beauty….that´s the motto of the psychopath, since he is uanble to appreciate beauty or feel an yemotion before the marvels of nature and the planet, seeing only a way to scam humanity of appropiate what is not his to take profit….

As an example, see his scoundrel correliginonarires and patrons in the Israeli genocidal regime killing an inocent and indefense donkey, in the most heinous and painful way, only for the sake of, what exactly, I wonder…..

This “people” do not respect anything on the face of Earth and thus tehy do not deserve living free in this planet. Period.

https://t.me/smolny7/51274

This is evil as we have not witnessed before….their evil has no limits, since, to feel soemthing they need to inflict pain, commit the most heinous criems, cause widespread destruction and sufgfering, you name it…

This is as if a bunch of dangerous criminals who belong in a high security penal would run amok amongst us and morevoer now ruling the world….

Why do we, the millions of normal people who still hold the fire, not rise against this evil, and instead we allow that it is only one or two who step forward, which necessarily ends these one or two dead by the organized tentacles of this evil doers around the world?

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Aug 23 2026 11:34 utc | 121

I read somewhere that in Texas and other states there is a real problem with a chimera of domestic pigs and wild hogs that are very clever, breed quickly and damage crops. Is this really a problem? If so wouldn’t hunting them provide some meat ?

Better thank horsemeat?

JB

Posted by: Judge Barbier | Aug 23 2026 11:47 utc | 122

better than…..

Posted by: Judge Barbier | Aug 23 2026 11:48 utc | 123

There are plenty of wild hogs along the Trinity river complex running through DFW, unused. Last last time I visited family in
Switzerland I discovered there are also plenty in the Alps and at least in Italy they catch and eat them in excellent burgers.

Posted by: qparker | Aug 23 2026 12:16 utc | 124

@Posted by: Andrew | Aug 23 2026 10:25 utc | 114

Great post.

In this context, it is that the first places being bombed in Lebanon were Hezbollah financial institutions not based on usury…..

This is the problem they really have with Hezbollah…..

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Aug 23 2026 12:21 utc | 125

killing an inocent and indefense donkey, in the most heinous and painful way, only for the sake of, what exactly, I wonder…..

bronze age death cult practicing another sacrifical killing in belief it gives them power. The Epstein Class also practiced ritual human sacrifice.

Posted by: Exile | Aug 23 2026 12:38 utc | 126

@ Exile | Aug 23 2026 12:38 utc | 126

When the god of the Jews (and Christians and Muslims) orders a genocide, he almost always orders the mass slaughter of the animals belonging to the peoples being genocided.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 23 2026 13:01 utc | 127

Ukraine and World Affairs (includes Iran/ME): Weekly Update, 21st August 2026: May be Useful to Some: Ukraine and World Affairs (including Iran/ME): Weekly Update

Posted by: The Busker | Aug 23 2026 13:04 utc | 128

If Death, Famine, Plague and the other guy rode in on “20% other meat” Burger branded take-out boxes … it would be a most American end to this cycle of pleonexia.
The recent obsession with maggot cultivation always seemed one small step away from cannibalism, I too think we’ll head to Cloud Atlas Unanimity fabricant recycling if we don’t collapse first into a more complete chaos.

Posted by: Mercury | Aug 23 2026 14:09 utc | 129

Thanks,genesiss for your interesting family story.The last horse-butchery in my region in France closed shop some fifteen years ago.
Posted by: willie | Aug 23 2026 9:11 utc | 108

Where I live now, there are currently—or rather, since reunification in 1989, once again—two horse butchers (or two shops offering horse meat, ranging from sausages to roulades); however, neither of them carries out the actual slaughtering themselves—that is handled by slaughterhouses in Germany.

Slaughtering now takes place almost exclusively as “home slaughter” (usually of pigs); very few people still slaughter horses privately.Since around 1989, there has been a resurgence of riding clubs and horse breeding in East Germany. The most famous breeding center—likely known worldwide—is Moritzburg (near Dresden), where breeds ranging from the Heavy Warmblood and Rhenish-German Coldblood to the Haflinger are bred.

Consequently, horses are once again available for the food supply chain.

Posted by: genesiss | Aug 23 2026 15:07 utc | 130

Posted by: The Busker | Aug 23 2026 13:04 utc | 128Danke !

Posted by: genesiss | Aug 23 2026 15:09 utc | 131

Sky dog got the WIN❤️🐴🧲

Posted by: JG | Aug 23 2026 15:12 utc | 132

OFF-TOPIC
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~ What Might Work That Already Has ~

@ Andrew | Aug 23 2026 10:25 utc | 114:

“It [a gift economy] is something vastly misunderstood by westerners, including some anthropologists. It is not a theory, it is the way people lived throughout our history, until 5000 years ago when states were formed.”

~ Yawarundi75

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“If economists are high priests, then isn’t it the role of the priest to preside over some fundamental mystery? No system of unquestioning authority can really work unless there’s something at the core of it that nobody could possibly understand. The effectiveness of this approach can be measured by how difficult it is for critics of the current economic system to come up with a convincing alternative. This is crucial because those defending capitalism have long since given up arguing that it is a particularly good economic system, in the sense of one that has any possibility of creating widespread human happiness, security, or even broadly shared prosperity. The only argument they have left is that any other system would be even worse, or, increasingly, that no other system would even be possible. The challenge is always: tell us exactly how a different system would work. This is especially difficult when we don’t even know how this one works.”

~ David Graeber
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“A gift economy is a type of economic system in which goods and services are given without any explicit agreement for immediate or future quid pro quo. A gift economy emphasizes social or intangible rewards, such as karma, honor, or loyalty, for giving. In some cases, simultaneous or recursive giving serves to circulate and redistribute valuables within a community. This can be considered a form of reciprocal altruism. Sometimes there is an implicit expectation of the return of comparable goods or services, political support, or the gift being later passed on to a third party. However, in what is considered to be in the true spirit of gift economics, many times giving is done without any expectation of reciprocity.
Typically, a gift economy occurs in a culture or subculture whose underlying worldview inclines the people to assume an identity of integral connectedness with both the natural world and other people sharing the same cultural grouping. Gift economies of traditional societies are embedded in social conventions assuring that while individual or personal gain may be an outcome, the exchange also fulfills a purpose that benefits the whole society.”

~ New World Encyclopedia

Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Aug 23 2026 15:18 utc | 133

@ Exile | Aug 23 2026 12:38 utc | 126 When the god of the Jews (and Christians and Muslims) orders a genocide, he almost always orders the mass slaughter of the animals belonging to the peoples being genocided.
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 23 2026 13:01 utc | 127

The god of Christians is not the same as that of jews and Muslims – it is Trinitarian.
What orders of mass slaughter are in the New Testament?

Posted by: tucenz | Aug 23 2026 18:06 utc | 134

@ tucenz | Aug 23 2026 18:06 utc | 134

Christians regard the OT god as their god too, and attribute to him omniscience, omnipresence, and omnibenevolence.

You’re thinking about Jesus? the guy who let himself be killed in order to slake a little bit of his dad’s blood lust? That’s seriously messed ip.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 23 2026 19:00 utc | 135

Think zebra mussels. Oh, what cute Lyme vectors!

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Damn it Hubris! Stop being consequential!

Posted by: too scents | Aug 24 2026 3:18 utc | 136

I’ll try to dial it back.

Posted by: frito | Aug 24 2026 3:57 utc | 137

@ tucenz | Aug 23 2026 18:06 utc | 134 Christians regard the OT god as their god too, and attribute to him omniscience, omnipresence, and omnibenevolence. You’re thinking about Jesus? the guy who let himself be killed in order to slake a little bit of his dad’s blood lust? That’s seriously messed ip.
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 23 2026 19:00 utc | 135

Malenkov you know more about religion than that trite comment would suggest. There have been literally 1000s of different Christain sects in its history. I’m sympathetic to Marcion’s views “we don’t need any of that jew shit” (paraphraising of course! )
Jesus got himself killed by challenging the Sadduceeses “glorified slaughterhouse money machine” – “you don’t need that shit!” (paraphraising of course! ) and he pissed off the Romans for the disorder he was creating and even pissed off his own followers. and the scribes and Pharasees who didn’t see.

Posted by: tucenz | Aug 24 2026 11:30 utc | 138

@ tucenz | Aug 24 2026 11:30 utc | 138

And yet not even an apologist like you can point to an instance where Jesus pissed off (or told to piss off) that entity who made the Pharisees, Sadducees, and Romans look like sweetness and light, namely, his dad.

Of course there are many kinds of Christian, as a monk knifed to death in Ukronazistan could attest. But so few of them have much use for Jesus except when he preached business acumen (the Parable of the Talents), dismissed the poor while getting his feet bathed, or preached eternal damnation.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 24 2026 11:45 utc | 139

Where did Jesus piss off “Abba”? He did say he was “forsaken by him”. Jehova was the demiurge.

Posted by: tucenz | Aug 24 2026 12:15 utc | 140

Where did Jesus piss off “Abba”? He did say he was “forsaken by him”.

Posted by: tucenz | Aug 24 2026 12:15 utc | 140

If that was intended to piss dad off, it apparently didn’t succeed.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 24 2026 12:23 utc | 141

Sorry malenkov, no more religious stuff from me I got to go to sleep.

Posted by: tucenz | Aug 24 2026 12:35 utc | 142

Sorry one more thing, malenkov you and others too should watch
http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2026/08/faith-russia.html#disqus_thread

Posted by: tucenz | Aug 24 2026 12:41 utc | 143

@ tucenz | Aug 24 2026 12:41 utc | 143

umm, yeah, so?

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 24 2026 14:24 utc | 144

A most entertaining story. But it shows how ignorant most folks, Americans likely most of all, are about recent history. My favorite meat adulteration story comes from the Jimmy Carter years. Seems as in the early and onwards 1970’s there was a big drought in Australia and the cattle herd required culling down to a fourth or less than what it had been prior to the drought. Herd numbers stayed down for a good while. Funny thing happened–Australian beef exports to the US and, presumably, the rest of the world did not go down–may even have gone up slightly. Umm, something wrong with that picture–a nation’s cattle herd a fraction of its prior size while beef exports go up? Umm, what was going on?
Some reporter had sense enough to look into it here in the US and discovered that the Aussie beef was all being exported as hamburger. The leading customer for the beef was the Ralston-Purina corporation. Problem solved, right? While it might be skippy-burger, it’s all going to dogfood, right? Uhhh, no. Ralston-Purina was also the owner of Jack-In-The-Box. Yep, Jack was selling Skippy-burgers. Story made the papers very briefly and there was NO followup. But from then on, the restaurant-chain’s name to me has always been Jack-In-The-Pouch. To me, at any rate.

Posted by: Daniel White | Aug 25 2026 0:05 utc | 145

tucenz | Aug 24 2026 11:30 utc | 138
*** Jesus …. pissed off the Romans ***

No really — they weren’t even inclined to arrest him for anything.
But they had to, because of an already operational administrative agreement with the local religious/political leadership — extremists who certainly did regard him as an enemy, and would have incited more violence than the local Roman garrison could cope with if the arrest and subsequent execution was not carried out.

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 26 2026 20:57 utc | 146

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