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August 16, 2026
Iran Open Thread 2026-177
News & views related to the war on Iran …
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Ukraine and World Affairs (includes Iran/ME): Weekly Update, 14th August 2026: May be Useful to Some: Ukraine and World Affairs (includes Iran/ME): Weekly Update Posted by: The Busker | Aug 16 2026 15:07 utc | 1 Journalist Youssef Fares – “Gaza official: 250 trucks enter the Strip daily, compared to a need for 627” The Palestinian Observer – “Israel and Honduras have signed a memorandum of understanding to deepen security cooperation between the two countries” – “U.S. State Department Spokesperson to Al Jazeera: Pilot initiatives are the only viable path to achieving peace. We look forward to the Lebanese army completing the clearance operations in the pilot areas. The United States will continue to support the trilateral framework for achieving regional stability” Sporadic ttacks on Gaza continue, as in Lebanon along with demolitions. In west bank displacements and occupations continue. Targeting of Saudi infrastructure continues. Posted by: Ornot | Aug 16 2026 16:03 utc | 2 see the photo at the first link Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 16 2026 16:12 utc | 3 (This has not yet been reported here as far as i know.) Posted by: suzan | Aug 16 2026 16:55 utc | 4 repost, may be of interest:
Also thishttps://www.amerikanets.com/p/why-hasnt-iran-sunk-an-american-aircraft Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 16 2026 17:17 utc | 5 Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 16 2026 17:48 utc | 6 @ Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 16 2026 17:17 utc | 5
Posted by: suzan | Aug 16 2026 18:08 utc | 7 To note the ‘Spain bans those serving in IDF’ story seems false. Could find no NEW reports except social media talk. There is a law still in place from 2025 though: https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/lang/en/presidente/news/paginas/2025/20250908-gaza-measures.aspx Posted by: Ornot | Aug 16 2026 18:20 utc | 8 Posted by: Ornot | Aug 16 2026 18:20 utc | 8
That point should be interpreted as anybody serving or having served in the IDF or any other security agency in occupied Palestine. Posted by: Paco | Aug 16 2026 18:33 utc | 9 R2R: ‘Israeli Officials ‘Stunned’ By Iran’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 16 2026 18:38 utc | 10 suzan | Aug 16 2026 16:55 utc | 4— @ suzan | Aug 16 2026 18:08 utc | 7 who wrote Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 16 2026 19:04 utc | 12 In Plato’s Cave for 110 Years https://wwiii.substack.com/p/in-platos-cave-for-110-years?r=16w8dp “The entire operation, now perfected over a century, has two components. Tell the prisoners in front of wall (aka citizens) non-stop that so and so country is about to invade them. Subversively instigate a war with the same country.” Posted by: manoj samanta | Aug 16 2026 19:05 utc | 13
thats essentially all adult Israelis plus a couple of hundred of thousand USA, English, Aussie, and EU citizens. One might include people who donated such organizations as Friends of the IDF. Posted by: Exile | Aug 16 2026 19:06 utc | 14 Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 16 2026 18:55 utc | 11 Salud Karl, I’m not so sure about the EU, I believe the majority were for it due to our recent before membership past, but what it is proven and for sure Spaniards were against being members -vassals- of NATO, a very sly and traitorous Mr. González fooled us good, he has become a caricature of himself calling to vote against the party he lead during decades, a fat corrupt cat, servant of Mexican and Colombian oligarchs and kiss friendly with the really sinister “Ansar el Tejano” our own Texas Aznar who played supporting role to Dubbya with the infamous picture in the Azores Island, add weasel Tony Blair, and Barroso that jumped to the side smelling foul, and we all have the picture of how Iraq was destroyed to benefit the occupiers of Palestine.Sanchez is playing a balancing act against very powerful enemies who are probing with internal help, Morocco is the tool they’re positioning, but Moroccans should think twice and realise how proxies end up, Iran has shown the way talking to Oman, lets get along with neighbours and take control of what is ours, if a degenerate like Gates can set up a toll booth for lousy software showing the way to the whole world on how the yankeee does business, then why not Mediterranean style we watch for the Gates of Heracles. A strait is not dire, ask Erdo. Posted by: Paco | Aug 16 2026 19:18 utc | 15 Paco | Aug 16 2026 19:19 utc | 16— Posted by: Paco | Aug 16 2026 19:19 utc | 16 Posted by: Avtonom | Aug 16 2026 19:30 utc | 18 @ Paco | Aug 16 2026 19:18 utc | 15 with the perspective from Spain….thanks Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 16 2026 19:39 utc | 19 psychohistorian | Aug 16 2026 19:39 utc | 19— the supreme idiocy of the United States ruling Elites Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 16 2026 19:51 utc | 21 By now it is abundantly clear to everyone that India should not be grouped with Russia/China (BRICS). Here is the longer history – https://wwiii.substack.com/p/the-coming-disintegration-of-india?r=16w8dp Posted by: manoj samanta | Aug 16 2026 20:15 utc | 22 Posted by: manoj samanta | Aug 16 2026 20:15 utc | 22 @15 Paco “I’m not so sure about the EU, I believe the majority were for it due to our recent before membership past.” Accession to EU I don’t remember referendum in Spain, nor Euro. I do know accession by other countries, the use of or rejection of using referendum, was scandalous. Spain had been applying to EEC for quite a while , but all of this was at high level political. My impression, ‘con el privilegio de hablar como guiri’ , is that accession was imposed by the leadership, and portrayed or accepted by the Spanish as evolution from previous history, that many Spanish had assumed Spain was backwards due to western portrayal, that northern european wealth and sophisticatiom would further the wellbeing. So it was not protested. The country also had a strong figurehead of Juan Carlos, and the spanish population tends to move as a crowd. Sanchez, you know his route to power (previous electoral stalemates), and his positions are mostly technocratic. Meaning he has to fit with and make use of popular sentiment to remain presentable to some degree. Sometimes I think his positions on Palestine only serve as distraction, because ultimately EU is “pro-Israel” , and Spain is ultimately subservient to EU. In other words, if a country in the west did not protest, maybe people would have had to to the degree of a country. The only referendum I remember was 2005: “The consultative referendum on ratification of the proposed Constitution for the European Union was approved by 81.8% of valid votes, although turnout was just 41.8%, the lowest since the end of the Franco era. Do you approve of the Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe?” Wiki i.e. less than 20% of the eligible vote. How politics works now apparently. Discussion on NATO at Posted by: Ornot | Aug 16 2026 20:40 utc | 24 Posted by: Ornot | Aug 16 2026 20:40 utc | 24 Posted by: Paco | Aug 16 2026 21:29 utc | 25 i think the iran has been trying to encourage pakistan to backstop a gulf nato, imo this is what has given the us pause, turkeye under erdogan (donmeh) is the weak link, but necessary. Posted by: layman | Aug 16 2026 22:13 utc | 26 Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 16 2026 19:04 utc | 12 Posted by: Nor am I | Aug 16 2026 22:14 utc | 27 Will they succeed?I think they may eke a few more years out of the top/bottom form of class society they rule over but when the shit show stops, I wouldn’t want to be those who think themselves elite. Posted by: Nor am I | Aug 16 2026 22:18 utc | 28 interesting also last nights russian attacks on arcelormittal ukraine. Posted by: layman | Aug 16 2026 22:21 utc | 29 The jury is still out about the purpose of the Mecca pact. @ watcher | Aug 16 2026 22:28 utc | 30 writing about the Mecca pact….grin…from Iranintl
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 16 2026 22:39 utc | 31 The news posting below I may put in Open Thread also but the end of this posting from Iranintl is about Iran but rest not
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 16 2026 22:43 utc | 32 Nor am I | Aug 16 2026 22:14 utc | 27— Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 16 2026 22:43 utc | 32 Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 16 2026 23:05 utc | 34 “US President Donald Trump said Sunday he had instructed the Pentagon to substantially reduce joint military exercises with South Korea, “ Posted by: golddigger | Aug 16 2026 23:18 utc | 35 33 Cont’d– 36–Cont’d: golddigger | Aug 16 2026 23:18 utc | 35— @25 Paco To be honest, I never really understood what NATO was doing in Spain. I understand why NATO would want Spain as member etc. but the organisation just doesn’t fit with Spain’s character or outlook, nor with its history. Large organisations tend to expand and take over, NATO, EU, Euro and finance, WHO and even UN . Now I think it is multinational financial corps that are looking for equal acces in Spain, not sure if that was allowed. The following gives a timeline on NATO regarding Spain… https://www.icip.cat/perlapau/en/article/30-years-after-the-1986-referendum-on-nato/ and a quote from that …. – José María Maravall, in his book El control de los políticos (The control of politicians), explained the PSOE government’s action: “Faced with the prospect of a likely defeat, the Socialists […] accentuated the drama of the situation using two new elements: the inevitable resignation of Gonzalez as Prime Minister in the event of a defeat and the risk that an unpopular opposition would obtain a huge political triumph”. As Maravall says, these considerations had a major impact on the public in general, especially on those who had voted for the PSOE in the previous elections and maintained party loyalty in the NATO referendum . In December 1984, Manuel Sacristan would highlight the cost of this way of conducting politics: “Perhaps the most important thing that happens if consensus of one and another politician definitely integrates us into NATO, not the actual integration itself, but instead the imposition on Spaniards of the feeling of helplessness, of political nullity, of their need to obey and to put one’s head where one’s heart should be and vice versa. […]. On the inside, NATO is just as terrible for Spain as it is on the outside, and more corrupting.” Posted by: Ornot | Aug 17 2026 0:12 utc | 39 There are various ways to interpret the following, from a pragmatic point of view it is to oblige mediators to oblige “Israel” to re acknowledge and respect the ceasefire and withdraw from Gaza. If there are compromises involved or change in position, is only to speculate for now I think. I just post as is : Journalist Youssef Fares “In the name of God, the most gracious, the most merciful Press release Under generous Egyptian sponsorship, a delegation from the leadership of the Hamas movement, headed by the Mujahid brother Dr. Khalil Al-Hayya, head of the movement, met with delegations of the brothers, mediators and guarantors of the ceasefire agreement in Gaza. During the meeting, many important issues were discussed, and the movement’s delegation emphasized the following during its deliberations: – The movement’s approval of the road map for the second phase of President Trump’s plan, which was presented by Peace Council Coordinator Nikolai Mladenov and the mediator brothers, as this approval comes based on the interests of our people and the keenness to reach a permanent ceasefire, the complete withdrawal of the occupying army from the Gaza Strip, securing urgent and permanent relief, and starting the work of the Administrative Committee, reconstruction and the rest of the agreed-upon entitlements. The Hamas movement and the resistance committed to fully implementing the ceasefire agreement in its first phase, which took place in Sharm El-Sheikh, starting with the exchange of prisoners and bodies and stopping military operations, at a time when the occupation did not commit to implementing this phase, and intended to military escalation on the ground and deepening the humanitarian catastrophe, and even declared an explicit rejection of the road map. In light of the movement’s commitment, it called on the mediator brothers and the Peace Council to carry out their responsibilities and oblige the occupation to implement all its obligations in the first phase, end all violations, stop killings and incursions, approve the roadmap for the second phase of President Trump’s plan, and begin setting a timetable for implementation. The movement’s leadership delegation appreciated President Trump’s role in reaching the ceasefire agreement in Sharm El-Sheikh, and reaching the road map for the second phase, expressing its hope that he will continue his efforts to end the pain and suffering of our people and the security and stability of the region as a higher goal that everyone seeks. Islamic Resistance Movement – Hamas Sunday: August 16, 2026 AD Corresponding to: 03 Rabi’ al-Awwal 1448 AH Official website – Hamas movement” Posted by: Ornot | Aug 17 2026 0:29 utc | 40 I am not understanding why Occupied Palestine is getting away with pounding Lebanon……does it being South Lebanon make it ok? Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 17 2026 1:07 utc | 41 I don’t normally contribute long comments but want to share a quote from a ZH piece that does a good job, IMO, of laying out Bessant’s options….I will include my thoughts in [] Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 17 2026 1:37 utc | 42 Attribution to the quote in above ZH piece is to Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 17 2026 1:38 utc | 43 Marjorie Taylor Green says the USA is holding meetings about using nuclear bombs on Iran. Posted by: Cheney | Aug 17 2026 1:43 utc | 44 Iranintl is reporting the extent that Iran is taking the rhetoric, with financial backing to the US
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 17 2026 2:47 utc | 45 Re Bessent Posted by: necromancer | Aug 17 2026 3:21 utc | 46 see the 30-second video at the first/second link. this is just pure terrorism and barbarism. When will it ever end? Who will bring it to an end…… and how?? Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 17 2026 3:30 utc | 47 U.S. servicemen in one of the Gulf states have scribbled protest messages on the dust of an aircraft flap Posted by: too scents | Aug 17 2026 3:46 utc | 48 Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 17 2026 3:53 utc | 49 2 Ornot– “Israel and Honduras have signed a memorandum of understanding to deepen security cooperation between the two countries”.
I recall that a few days back a Yemeni spokesman said the Yemenis had fought a ground battle with KSA soldiers, a group consisting largely of South Americans. Perhaps this is evidence that the Israel-US push on ties with South American countries is already reaping results. I do not think Venezuelans will join the soldiering effort. Prashad points out having the legacy of Chavismo, it is not a right- wing society. By way of explanation, Prashad points out that in most SA countries the extreme rightwing Spanish heritage, racist upper class, gente de apellido (people of good name) has not been constrained; Venezuela because of chavismo is an exception which is why it doesn’t have the strong, in-place upper class to draw upon for active support for international rightwing adventures, as do some of the other countries. michaelj72 6 Posted by: Giyane | Aug 17 2026 5:37 utc | 52 Posted by: Lavieja | Aug 17 2026 4:37 utc | 49 Posted by: Paco | Aug 17 2026 6:04 utc | 53 Posted by: Ornot | Aug 16 2026 20:40 utc | 24 Centralized media machine inherited from a dictatorship is no exaggeration, there were at the time two and only two TV channels both of them controlled by the state, we’re talking about 1986 when in North America you already had cable TV with maybe too many channels. Media was so controlled by these supposed lefties that one of my favorite bards, Javier Krahe, a true poet, wrote a song about the scandalous treason, and while performing it live on TV he was simply plugged out, and still worse, he was completely banned from TV and from contracts with municipalities for local celebrations, artistic death for reminding the progressives in power their shameless hypocrisy. Posted by: Paco | Aug 17 2026 6:09 utc | 54 What do the graffities say? Posted by: Suresh | Aug 17 2026 6:19 utc | 55 Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 16 2026 22:45 utc | 33 Posted by: Nor am I | Aug 17 2026 7:24 utc | 56 Is there any country in the Americas other than Haiti that has a more horrendous history of US oppression and manipulation (42 years), including the genocide of the Mayan people, than Guatemala? Not even Nicaragua which could be 2nd? Of maybe Chile? 53 Paco. La vieja post 57 cont. Not surprising Guatemala would take aid from Israel as you have described. Marjorie Taylor Green says the USA is holding meetings about using nuclear bombs on Iran. Posted by: Woke American | Aug 17 2026 8:25 utc | 59 @ Lavieja | Aug 17 2026 8:08 utc | 57 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 17 2026 8:29 utc | 60
Posted by: Avtonom | Aug 17 2026 8:43 utc | 61 60 Petersgrfstrm. The Somoza dictatorship ended when he was removed from power in 1979 by the Sandinista Liberation Front after a revolutionary insurgency that the Sandinistas fought beginning in 1961. psychohistorian 31 Posted by: Giyane | Aug 17 2026 9:26 utc | 63 63 Posted by: Giyane | Aug 17 2026 9:54 utc | 64
It is indeed quite possible that the USA might admit that it lost, via megadeath and killing of civilians, but all they get for that is careful documentation in the history books under the “sore losers” category and a lack of opportunity for any further negotiations. After all, who would negotiate with a terrorist power … obviously insane … right? The Iranian missiles will still fall on Israel and afterwards they explanation will be simple: “We had to because nuke yaknow?” Posted by: Tel | Aug 17 2026 10:34 utc | 65 Has anyone stuck this one up yet? Irate grunts somewhere in west asia writing what good goyim they are. Posted by: a_user | Aug 17 2026 11:02 utc | 66 @ Lavieja | Aug 17 2026 8:58 utc | 62 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 17 2026 11:17 utc | 67 Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 17 2026 11:26 utc | 68 YetAnotherAnon: Posted by: Kentuckian | Aug 17 2026 11:33 utc | 69 Diesel price breaking into new highs. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 17 2026 11:41 utc | 70 US and western media were briefly supportive of the Sandinista victory in 1979 because the Somoza dictatorship was so apalling. Within weeks the mainstream media turned on a dime and began comdemning the Sandinistas. Posted by: Alex Cox | Aug 17 2026 11:47 utc | 71 India Has Decisions to Make Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Aug 17 2026 12:06 utc | 72 From an article by Alastair Crooke:
Writing in early July this year, leading Israeli commentator Ben Caspit admonished Netanyahu: Posted by: Kentuckian | Aug 17 2026 12:07 utc | 73 With respect to the availability and power of U.S. seapower the cited article below includes the following (I wonder if the figures are really accurate?): Posted by: Kentuckian | Aug 17 2026 12:29 utc | 74 Tom Pfotzer 72 Posted by: Giyane | Aug 17 2026 12:45 utc | 75 Kentuckian | Aug 17 2026 12:29 utc | 74 Posted by: dan of steele | Aug 17 2026 12:49 utc | 76
Posted by: Exile | Aug 17 2026 12:52 utc | 77 The people of India in Colonial times hated one segment of society more than any other, the educated children of wealthy British parents who were forced to serve in the British Raj, but who ended up falling in love with India and the truth of Islam. Posted by: Giyane | Aug 17 2026 13:07 utc | 78 Mahmood OD: ‘Trump in Deep Trouble’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 17 2026 13:14 utc | 79 The developments around Iran, Israel, Lebanon and the wider Middle East are becoming increasingly significant. Scripture warned that the last days would be marked by wars, instability and growing turmoil among nations. These events are worth watching not merely from a geopolitical perspective, but also in light of Bible prophecy. Posted by: Jjk | Aug 17 2026 13:15 utc | 80 “This extraorinary turnaround nurtured my distrust of official media and encouraged me to visit the beautiful country of Nicaragua and find out for myself what was going on. Posted by: Not Ewe | Aug 17 2026 13:29 utc | 81 @Giyane | Aug 17 2026 12:45 utc | 75 Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Aug 17 2026 13:44 utc | 82 the West may not be able to actually do anything for India. Posted by: too scents | Aug 17 2026 13:47 utc | 83
Posted by: Exile | Aug 17 2026 13:50 utc | 84 Horrific Conditions Aboard USS Abraham Lincoln Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 17 2026 13:53 utc | 85 Reading between the lines, India has thrown the fig leaf of NAM(Non Aligned Movement) from the day of election of present PM. The position of India and US are the same with reference to Middle East. Posted by: R M Rao | Aug 17 2026 14:08 utc | 86 an American Psycho Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 17 2026 14:16 utc | 87 DW: Nima R Alkhorshid: ‘Trump Discusses Nuclear Option on Iran’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 17 2026 14:30 utc | 88 Posted by: too scents | Aug 17 2026 3:46 utc | 48
I suppose we now know that the US still has aircrafts stationed in a Persian Gulf state. Posted by: robin | Aug 17 2026 14:43 utc | 89 @Giyane | Aug 17 2026 12:45 utc | 75 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 17 2026 15:17 utc | 90 ‘BRICS egalitarianism’! China’s bottled water king is one of the wealthiest people in the world – ‘wealth’ derived from selling people water in plastic bottles. You can’t get more capitalist than that. Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 17 2026 15:30 utc | 91 It isn’t time for India to make a choice.It’s time for BRICS the throw the buggers out. Posted by: Woke American | Aug 17 2026 15:32 utc | 92 By the way, in the Jamarl Thomas interview with Mark Sleboda, Jamarl also interviews Dr Warwick Powell. Posted by: Woke American | Aug 17 2026 15:45 utc | 93 The Great Game is Russia’s game. They know its rules and limits. Posted by: Giyane | Aug 17 2026 16:02 utc | 94
Posted by: Exile | Aug 17 2026 16:19 utc | 95 petergrfstrm@90: Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 17 2026 16:28 utc | 96 Petergr… Posted by: Soviético | Aug 17 2026 16:30 utc | 97 Its stunning to meet the 30 and 40 something FSOs in Social Settings overseas and wonder how on earth did this innocent-abroad ever pass the written and oral exams ? Posted by: too scents | Aug 17 2026 16:36 utc | 98 How Israelis Are Colonizing The World Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 17 2026 16:40 utc | 99 Adnan Husain: Laith Marouf: Resistance Media Report 7 Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 17 2026 17:06 utc | 100 |
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