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August 13, 2026
Iran Open Thread 2026-174
News & views related to the war on Iran …
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@sakineh bagoom Posted by: stranger | Aug 14 2026 9:54 utc | 101 “Still, it recounts the overthrow of Mossadegh in 1953 and all the dirty tricks that were used to put the Shah in absolute control, so it’s a good backgrounder for those who don’t know.” Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 14 2026 10:05 utc | 102 Dan Kelly | Aug 14 2026 9:26 utc | 95 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2026 10:11 utc | 103 https://indi.ca/in-deep-ship/ Posted by: stranger | Aug 14 2026 10:14 utc | 104 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhCgJElpQEQ Posted by: English Outsider | Aug 14 2026 10:19 utc | 105 China can continue to do bilaterals backed by gold or whatever but the heavily integrated world markets require ease of transaction Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2026 10:22 utc | 106 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 14 2026 10:05 utc | 102 Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 14 2026 10:35 utc | 107 stranger 101 Posted by: Giyane | Aug 14 2026 10:37 utc | 108 Posted by: stranger | Aug 14 2026 9:54 utc | 101 Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 14 2026 10:42 utc | 109 Posted by: stranger | Aug 14 2026 10:14 utc | 104 Posted by: john | Aug 14 2026 10:51 utc | 110 English Outsider 105 Posted by: Giyane | Aug 14 2026 11:00 utc | 111 After the defenestration of the peacenik generals (as happened under FDR in preparation for entering the long planned ww2 for the Ziolords then) we have the gung-ho ziowariors – the General J D Rippers of this day (Dr Strangelove) on the one hand supposedly talkinf down DJT47 and on the other going to their prime colonial outpost in West Asia to promise the delivery of their long planned Greater USrael.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 14 2026 11:13 utc | 112
Recalling that Israelis have said aloud, “‘Best For Us’ If US Fights Iran While Israel Sits Out New Round of War”. Posted by: Otto Penn | Aug 14 2026 11:55 utc | 113 Posted by: Otto Penn | Aug 14 2026 11:59 utc | 114 @Posted by: Otto Penn | Aug 14 2026 11:59 utc | 114 Posted by: Otto Penn | Aug 14 2026 12:01 utc | 115 Ukraine and World Affairs (including Iran/ME): Weekly Update, 14th August: May be Useful to Some: Ukraine and World Affairs (includes Iran/ME): Weekly Update
Any “permanent solution” would include the right of return in some form or other. This is not acceptable to the Americans, nor to the current EU/UK leaders, so the conflict is set for the long term. Posted by: English Outsider | Aug 14 2026 12:07 utc | 116 Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 14 2026 12:15 utc | 117 https://archive.ph/18uih Posted by: English Outsider | Aug 14 2026 12:22 utc | 118 Reuters – Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2026 14:04 utc | 119 The largest prop aircraft that can land on a A/C is the C2 retired in 2026 and replaced by Osprey CMV 22B. Both can’t carry much and definitely not fresh produce for a population of 5000. Range appox 2, 400km with full load of 4500 kg (CMV 22B – range is under 1000 km under full load). Posted by: suzan | Aug 14 2026 14:08 utc | 120 Stranger, Posted by: Exile | Aug 14 2026 14:18 utc | 121 Stranger – drugs pesma Posted by: Exile | Aug 14 2026 14:23 utc | 122 🙏🙏What the Holy Bible says of this horrific decade just ahead of us.. Here’s a site expounding current global events in the light of bible prophecy.. To understand more, pls search on Google 👇 Bi_ble Prop_hecy in Act_ion Blog_spot Posted by: Jjk | Aug 14 2026 14:23 utc | 123
Posted by: Exile | Aug 14 2026 14:35 utc | 124 Journalist Youssef Fares ” Islamic Jihad: Islamic Jihad Movement: The Minister of War’s announcement in the government of the usurping entity about what he called “the transfer of law enforcement powers in civil cases in the West Bank settlements to the police” means practically canceling the “Green Line” administratively and legally for the settlers, integrating the settlements into the occupied interior, and effectively confirming the annexation of the occupied West Bank and extending the occupation’s control over it. This decision ignores the Fourth Geneva Convention and all UN resolutions, most notably Security Council Resolution No. 2334, which reveals the illusions of those who bet on a settlement with the usurping entity, and who promoted normalization with it under the claim of protecting Palestinian rights” Posted by: Ornot | Aug 14 2026 14:44 utc | 125 @69 malenkov “False binary” Any conclusion is going to be only theory without facts…a conclusive theory :-/ That speculation is amped and directed in a certain direction is sort of medieval but probably reinforces the beliefs of some. Similar, just now: “A Greater Anglia train has derailed near Wickford, Essex. It’s the second derailment in southern England in the past 24hrs” (Not sure of site orientation, just landed there) Posted by: Ornot | Aug 14 2026 14:56 utc | 126 Ornot 126 Posted by: Giyane | Aug 14 2026 15:30 utc | 127 @97 BitterGrapes The last I heard of that ship in the med was that it was being towed away because an explosion near any population or shipping would be catastrophic … I didn’t know it had eventually exploded (if so possibly on purpose due to its instability). The wreck in Oman is over a month sat there, sinking further and continuously releasing oil. They talk of weather conditions etc. for not having pumped out its tanks or similar … that is hard to figure except that it is a lot of oil, plus incorrectly done could lead to disintegration of the ship. There are technicians though who kniw all of this and how to approach such a scenario. So my impression is that no-one could assign responsibility, given Russian shadow tanker abandoned by crew after being struck by Ukrainian limpet mine, and that caused bureaucratic delay … for whatever reason Oman did not (want to ?) take full national responsibility and pay for clean up out of own pocket. In theory the cargo is worth the cleanup cost, ship is abandoned so it normally can be claimed by salvor…so even that doesn’t make proper sense. I don’t know, but it is all very odd. Posted by: Ornot | Aug 14 2026 15:37 utc | 128 Ornot 125 Posted by: Giyane | Aug 14 2026 15:40 utc | 129
Posted by: Harmonic Resonance | Aug 14 2026 15:51 utc | 130 @127 Giyane That might do it on a weak line or if trains weren’t run slow during hot conditions. Like the recent rail disaster in Spain, the Baltimore bridge, the Iberian power outage and many more ‘events’, we are not likely to be given a credible clear answer at all… usually the opposite or all just ‘forgotten’ over time. Building systems that cannot be maintained, privatisation and cost cutting, through to sabotage, it is not possible to be sure usually. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yyj5cv5FPWA Posted by: Ornot | Aug 14 2026 15:57 utc | 131 “not a word about how the US/UK in 1979 repeated the coup, this time against the Shah who had annoyed the evil colonialist powers in US/UK France and more because Iran no longer was bringing the larger proportion of the profits to the west.” Posted by: Caliman | Aug 14 2026 16:11 utc | 132 Btw, petergrfstrm’s POV here was first aired by the remnants of the Shah supporters in the US in the 80’s … kind of a modern “stab in the back” story a la Germany in the ’20s or Hillary’s “Russia, Russia, Russia” in 2017. Posted by: Caliman | Aug 14 2026 16:16 utc | 133 Mahmood OD: ‘Iran Thwarts Ground Invasion’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 14 2026 16:34 utc | 134 Harmonic Resonance | Aug 14 2026 15:51 utc | 130 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2026 16:45 utc | 135 Danny Haiphong: Alastair Crooke: ‘Strikes on US Next?’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 14 2026 16:49 utc | 136 @132 Caliman A very coherent and valid reply to petergrfstrm. My own view is based on that any side will play any event to own advantage, that includes claiming authorship or sowing dissent. As counter argument: “Tens of millions participated in it” …does not guarantee anything. Tens of millions paticipate in wars and other extreme events knowing little, meaning the question still returns to if the revolution was seeded or co-opted, for example. I do not like to place doubt on the authenticity or meaning of others, but from a critical perspective (only) it is essential. Personally I see some hand at work, and it could not be otherwise given British and US presence during the period. i.e. even if the revolution was to remove that hand, it would still be part of that reality for its presence to that point. Whatever, I take the subsequent leadership as Iranian or it would not have flourished, would not have been kept, would not have been allowed to be by the Iranian people. The west still uses Iranian opposition to western colonialism as tinder for any enterprise, by converting Iran into an enemy of that (which it is) and so the west (which it isn’t) . Current events in fact just show the western structure of morality to be empty, Iran did not do that, it has been pretty much an own goal. That that does not or is not allowed to interfere in western material conquest is besides the point, equally it is part of that and equally is a purposeful spin off or objective of the whole approach. That would also then beg the question of just who is behind this kind of western (and international) erasure. Which is kind of a heavy topic. Posted by: Ornot | Aug 14 2026 16:58 utc | 137 Ornot – I partially agree. That western elements try to influence events is not to be doubted. However, there’s a long series of leaps from misadvising the shah or later Saddam versus an conducting an actual active coup like Iran 1953 or Chile 1973. Riding on top of popular sentiment in 1979 Iran and taking credit for outsized results is something elements of western agencies can use to make themselves seem even more powerful (and thus deserving their $$$$) and something the shah’s supporters can use to claim legitimacy … not something we should let either of them get away with. Posted by: Caliman | Aug 14 2026 17:27 utc | 138 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2026 16:45 utc | 135 Posted by: Tichy | Aug 14 2026 17:33 utc | 139 Journalist Youssef Fares – “Secretary General of Hezbollah: The Lebanese authority has begun to target the resistance instead of focusing on Israel’s non-compliance with the agreement” Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma – “In another step to annex the West Bank Defense Minister Katz orders the transfer of law enforcement powers in the West Bank from the Israeli army to the Israeli police under the rule and orders of Ben Gvir.” – “Ali Al-Taher Heights in southern Lebanon is subjected to continuous bombardment as part of a “hidden” military operation conducted with the aim of controlling the height” https://t.me/Sohaibpress/148852 Posted by: Ornot | Aug 14 2026 17:44 utc | 140 Cold War 2.0, #81: Tarik Cyril Amar: ‘They’re Leaving’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 14 2026 18:03 utc | 141 @138 Caliman Exactly, or as you stated very clearly: “Your [to petergrfstrm] POV takes agency away from the people and conveys unearned influence and power to shadowy groups and really in the end argues for hopelessness and resignation to fate. After all, if the USUK are that powerful and all-knowing, what can be done? Iranians are not going to fall for it, I hope” In other words, there is hardly a greater form of legitimacy to a particular rule than the kind of revolution that occurred in Iran, and the subsequent acceptance of the new status quo. That marginalises intrigue and doubt to a status of virtual irrelevance, because those hypothesis are not actually what the grounded public movement was about. The hypothesis are also an attempt to chisel away at the credibility of existing leaders. Without those the public sentiment and position would still be similar, only under a different mantle of some kind. The current US efforts are to continuously disrupt forms of representation and create dissent, confusion and argument in the population, or even to push Iranian leadership to unwanted extremes. So the restraint and moderation shown by Iran is exemplary, because there is simply no ‘good’ or more certain reaction available when continuously harrassed or attacked. Posted by: Ornot | Aug 14 2026 18:04 utc | 142 JF: Prof Mohammad Marandi Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 14 2026 18:12 utc | 143 The hypothesis are also an attempt to chisel away at the credibility of existing leaders. Posted by: arby | Aug 14 2026 20:10 utc | 144 Question is, is the US secretly changing UK weather, as Trump’s punishment for not allowing British troops to help the IDF trash West Asia?100% likely, Starmer’s last curse. Posted by: stranger | Aug 14 2026 23:24 utc | 145 Peter. 81. Posted by: Manuel Verdugo | Aug 15 2026 2:31 utc | 146 “Russia is aiding Iran’s war effort by providing intel on US military targets, sources say” Posted by: WMG | Aug 15 2026 11:25 utc | 147 ttps://southfront.press/ Posted by: Angelo | Aug 15 2026 15:01 utc | 148 Mahmood OD: ‘The Reckoning Gets Closer’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 15 2026 15:05 utc | 149 Posted by: Exile | Aug 14 2026 14:18 utc | 121 Posted by: stranger | Aug 16 2026 21:28 utc | 150 |
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