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August 9, 2026
Iran Open Thread 2026-171
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There’s a curious quirk of history: any nation that has ever opposed or resisted hegemonic subjugation to the west-anglo-zion blok, suddenly falls into a pit of moral depravity. Stories of massacres and atrocities shock us into obedient outrage and hatred. Think of the Spanish Inquisition, the USSR, North Korea, Cuba, Libya, Iran, etc… BTW Robert Conquest (clue in his name?) whose history of Stalin’s “great terror” single-handedly turned western opinion against the USSR, was an MI6 employee.
But surely they were right one time? A stopped clock is correct twice a day at least. Who can argue that Nazi Germany were bad? Well there is the exception that proves the rule. Indeed Nazi Germany committed uniquely appalling atrocities. Britain and the US would have been in the right to have denounced in the strongest terms the holocaust, after the war. Only the curious thing is that they didn’t. There was a ripple of disapproval and some Nuremburg show trials. They did give one single person – Rudolph Hess – the least guilty of all the Nazis who’se only crime was to try to stop the war – a long multi decade sentence. All the rest, the worst murderers and torturers – were either recruited into the CIA or MI6 or let off more or less scott free.
In the western media a kind of silence fell on the subject of the Holocaust, such that serious historic work did not begin on the subject till the 1970’s, when those in power during WW2 were finally gone and the Holocaust lost its protecting veil. This hiatus gave (false) credence to Holocaust deniers who justifiable ask – if it was such a monstrous crime – (which it indeed was) why the silence on it for 30 years after WW2? The answer of course was that a Holocaust focus diluted the anti-Russia agenda. To which in the Russophobic fascist west, all else is always and utterly subservient. As Russian General Zhukov said “we saved the world from fascism and the west will never forgive us for this.” With every day that passes history merges Nazi Germany and the whole west into a single indivisible (w)hole.
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Aug 10 2026 10:18 utc | 101
The bottom up way is to nationalize the industries basic to the economy.. and the top down way is to reduce wages to be equivalent of lowest possible?
Very interesting.. Amazing how people fail to see this.. The government should provide the infra structure (when it comes to basic fixed profit public services roads, water, sewers, etc. everyone agrees, when the infra structure needed allows for high earning speculative profit profits like exist in being a basic provider of industrial needs (that nearly all others depend on) none of the top down people agree.
Posted by: snake | Aug 10 2026 10:42 utc | 103
@Andrew Sarchus | Aug 10 2026 10:18 utc | 102
Nazi Germany didnt evolve like that on its own. The US/UK caused it to rise. British influence also concerned the ideology as confirmed by the leading nazis as well as by the Kaiser.
In addition the preparations went on for over a century where the European Continent was ideologically manipulated to be dragged into occultism. Since the angloamerican establishment came to control the science of history, the British who created that elites network have totally obscured the historical reality about what happened to Germany. Few people from political right to left ever seem to be aware of that.
And it is not just a consequence of academic litterature. It is also a consequence of the US/UKs ability to grab national archives after wars and to hide them. In addition in some cases important collections of documents vanish when libraries burn. One such case was a russian library fire in 2015. There the world lost national archive material from several key countries. Some russian authors may possibly have managed to learn from that library before it was gone. For example about the Russian so called civil war where the British military sabotaged the white armies.
History during a long period including the 19th century and at least half the 2oth was very much created by Britain. The lack of awareness about that is a serious weakness that changes the conclusions.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 10 2026 10:53 utc | 104
Now, if you want art, try tah-chin. https://persiangood.com/recipes/tahchin/
Enjoy.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 9 2026 19:38 utc | 43
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Thanks Sakineh – you inspired me!
A long time ago I worked with an Iranian ‘refugee’. He had escaped during the revolution. He never spoke much about the details, but it seemed his family had suffered immensely. Anyhow, he was an excellent research technician and we had a lot of enjoyable, productive times together. He reminded me of paintings of Belshazzar – a strikingly noble appearance…
And he always brought the crunchy rice dishes to our ‘working lunches’.
Your description reminded me of this wonderful rice, and this evening I had a go at a variation of the Tah-Chin you recommended. I used the usual rice ‘envelope’, but I stuffed it with stir-fried chicken, cooked with onions, and garlic. The chicken was then shredded, and layered with thinly sliced potatoes and mushrooms – a couple of layers of each, inside the rice envelope, and baked at 180C until golden brown.
I’m sure my effort can be improved!
Posted by: General Factotum | Aug 10 2026 11:01 utc | 105
Just another reason Iran, Yemen and The Resistance must finish USrael…
It: ‘This is How We Treat Israel’s Enemies’ (& vid)
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/2086618406451556378
“…Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir released a new video filmed inside an Israeli prison cell, taunting Palestinians. ‘This is how we treat Israel’s enemies: you’re not going to get any more food. I feel no pity for you. This isn’t a hotel – you’re going to die…”
Death to USrael & Empire – Victory to Iran & The Resistance – Free Palestine – River to the Sea!
Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 10 2026 11:32 utc | 106
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 10 2026 10:53 utc | 105..History during a long period including the 19th century and at least half the 20th was very much created by Britain. The lack of awareness about that is a serious weakness that changes the conclusion…
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<=I agree.. “My memoirs, 1878 to 1918” by Ex-Kaiser William,II really brings home how the British Elite used the UK government to manipulate Germany both to move against Russia and to help the Oil and gas cartels move to take over the then known massive amounts of oil and gas that lay beneath the Ottoman Empire(and to, at the same time, exclude Germany who already had a foothold in the ongoing development of oil and gas in the Ottoman empire). This was accomplished in a British program known to day as WWI..
Posted by: snake | Aug 10 2026 12:57 utc | 107
Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 10 2026 14:24 utc | 108
I’m sure my effort can be improved!
Posted by: General Factotum | Aug 10 2026 11:01 utc | 106
Thanks for the reply, GF.
A good chef always takes a recipe and make it his/her own. Keep at it.
I seem to have missed a key part of the process on tah-dig. That when ready to serve, you put a plate on the pot and invert the content by turning the pot over onto the plate. Aesthetics-wise it matters much.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 10 2026 14:28 utc | 109
The average cost of living in China ($663) is 74% less expensive than in the United States ($2522). China ranked 158th vs 9th for the United States in the list of the most expensive countries in the world.
The average after-tax salary is enough to cover living expenses for 1.3 months in China compared to 1.8 months in the United States. Ranked 85th and 22nd best countries to live in the world.
No that much of a difference and I read somewhere that every year wage growth for labour outstrips inflation in China.
Posted by: arby | Aug 10 2026 15:01 utc | 110
The price of oil keeps creeping up today and I see that only 2 ships are transiting Hormuz.
Posted by: arby | Aug 10 2026 15:04 utc | 111
Lyrics to Marzieh posted @43 by Sakineh Bagoom:
“Granite Stone
It is the right time to go to the desert now
And choose a granite stone as a witness for this crazy heart
I have detailed words to say and points to make
Listen O desert stone
Listen O wind and rain
I share secrets with you now
I am your friend now
If a self consuming candle like me utters a sigh in a gathering then many hearts will burn
For such a flaming candle, it is wise to be with his love alone and burn alone
This Majnoun is searching for his Leyla ( Majnoun and Leyla are lovers in Persian Poetry)
I love this passion and fearless love
I won’t stop drinking till I reach her
I am excited and delighted with this situation”
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/sange-khara-granite-stone.html
Posted by: Ornot | Aug 10 2026 15:14 utc | 112
– “lower the wage to the Chinese, Filipino or Vietnamese levels” @98 scc
– “The bottom up way is to nationalize the industries basic to the economy.. and the top down way is to reduce wages to be equivalent of lowest possible?” @104 Snake
That is a limited view.
‘Lowering wages’ also occurs when the earnings of foreign producers are not reinvested in purchases from the country in question, including of sovereign debt as reserve. Meaning the value of say the dollar will decrease naturally because it has no purchasing power/worth in the US to a foreign earner. This means wages in US do not have to decrease in dollar terms, but that manufacturing ability to compete with foreign competitor becomes worthwhile due to apparent price rises.
In other words as dollar value decreases you see inflation increase, or put differently cost of buying foreign increases and so domestic production at current wages increases because there is profit from higher prices.
Currently major producers are satisfied with the economic arrangement of pegging currency and reinvesting surplus dollars in US. This is a form of state capitalism with a governed management of domestic economy.
‘Nationalise’ might include restricting imports so encouraging or obliging domestic production, it does not necessarily mean ‘own’ whatever business or activity.
Posted by: Ornot | Aug 10 2026 15:34 utc | 113
Posted by: Ornot | Aug 10 2026 15:14 utc | 113
Thanks for the site Ornot. I didn’t know about the translation site.
The one you posted ‘Sangeh Khara’ – granite stone, reminds me of pickax mountain that’s been in the news recently, and it’s a great song.
I posted ‘raftam keh raftam’
I left you forever, and ever
My skirt’s hem fluttering, I left you arms O unkind one!
Never again shall this wounded heart bother your sight
I left you, forever and ever
I left you, forever and eve
My skirt’s hem fluttering, I left you arms O unkind one!
Never again shall this wounded heart bother your sight
I left you, forever and ever
I left you, forever and ever
Move on from the insane me
Move on, oh my all, move on
Whatever I have been
Whatever you have been
Now I’ve left you unnoticed, forever and ever
I left you, forever and ever
Let you light up1strangers’ happy parties now
Let you be a wine cup in every lowlife’s hands
Whatever I have been
Whatever you have been
Now I’ve left you unannounced, forever and ever
I left you, forever and ever
I left, forget me from now on
I left, never shall you serve me a drink again
My easily tamed heart is now free from your snare
O unfaithful! one!2
I left you, forever and ever
I left, forget me from now on
I left, never shall you serve me a drink again
My easily tamed heart is now free from your snare
O unfaithful! one!2
I left you, forever and ever
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/yulduz-turdiyeva-raftam-ke-raftam-english#translations
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 10 2026 15:41 utc | 114
Omitted on this limited hangout:
1) Total merging of US military with IDF
See all the ex cia old white ‘analysts’ avoiding the fact.
2) Russians to train HTS Jewlany forces together with the CIA, MI6 in Syrya.
By the way, documented on El Arabeya is the interview with Jewlany where he said that Russians have helped them in their advances on Syrya against Assad.
See Vanessa Baleey substack for details.
Thus, Kremlin works together with CIA and MI6? Intersting but not surprising in their game to devide this planet resources.
Explain it.
3) Iranian 30 yrs old singer kidnapped by MEK ( same like HTS, El Qaida), skinned alive, heart ripped out, dismembered. Videos sent together with the heart to his family.
So we know the origin of the head choppers in Middle east ( USA and the vassals).
It is nice to see Kremlin cooperating with the evil.
Do NOT EVER cite Rossia as the opposition to imperialism, just another bitch ZOG country to sacrifice its citizens for its oligarchy.
What a disappointment they have been.
Posted by: stranger | Aug 10 2026 17:31 utc | 115
I seem to have missed a key part of the process on tah-dig. That when ready to serve, you put a plate on the pot and invert the content by turning the pot over onto the plate. Aesthetics-wise it matters much.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 10 2026 14:28 utc | 110
Thank you for the recipe and the link. I keep thinking something like an Ernylmeyer Flask is used to cook it, or some other bizzare geometric device. Regarding music, I was referring to the Santoor. Not to be confused with the Tandoor! I will bet that Saffron is part of the recipe for the rice?
Glad to see that a few others here are interested in great ethnic food! Instead of the usual suspects obsessing over the Bronze Age Death Cult…..Blah….Blah…Blah…
Posted by: Harmonic Resonance | Aug 10 2026 17:38 utc | 116
https://beeley.substack.com/p/mi6-in-damascus-and-russia-agrees
Syria and Russia reached a memorandum of understanding to “reorganise” Moscow’s presence on the Syrian coast. Civilians facilities are to be transferred to HTS state management which removes any slender hope of protection for the Alawite minorities should Jolani’s thugs escalate the attacks as they did in 2025. Russian military bases will be transformed into joint training centres which means that Russia will be training alongside Al Qaeda, the terrorist entity that they had fought against since their entry into the war in 2015.
Posted by: stranger | Aug 10 2026 17:40 utc | 117
@stranger | Aug 10 2026 17:31 utc | 116
If Russia is thrown out of Syria it is a loss greater than that, presumably pragmatic move. I assume Russian leadership are realists when they know the whole west wants to annihilate them and capture all resources.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 10 2026 17:50 utc | 118
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 10 2026 17:50 utc | 119
I actually see Kremlin very eager to cooperate with the west, disregarding the wellbeing of the ordinary russians.
It is because the Kremlin depends on the oligarch class there.
There are too many indicators that Kremlin is the ZOG, exactly like USA and so called west.
I researched their behaviour in the West Asia, and there are too many indicators that they are exactly the same as the west.
ractcal politics does not excuse their behavior in light of their clain that they are anti imperialists, adhering to intl law ( what about the Genocide convention they have signed).
Just another ZOG, ready to eat shit to preserve the warm water port, in spite that they have betrayed the country that have granted to them permission to use it ( Hafez El Assad). They have betrayed Syrya and I have many proofs One is an interwiew with Jewlany ElQaida stating that Russians helped them, Than there is the brigade 5 ( russian established) stroming Damascus. There were generals in Syrian army Russians executed for not complying.
Dirty story very well known in Middle east and Syrya.
Russians are not to be trusted. Kremlin of course, citizens know.
ZOG, like USA.
No excuse.
Posted by: stranger | Aug 10 2026 18:11 utc | 119
Stranger,
Wishing you quiet success in your efforts this Season.
SNSF
Posted by: Exile | Aug 10 2026 19:02 utc | 120
@115 Sakineh Bagoom
It also made me think of that mountain.
The lyrics you posted afterwards are very full of emotion, it is possible to feel what she is saying or experience what she is feeling.
Posted by: Ornot | Aug 10 2026 19:36 utc | 121
It also made me think of that mountain.
Posted by: Ornot | Aug 10 2026 19:36 utc | 122
Ornot,
Interesting tidbit about the mountain.
Pickaxe mountain is a translation of the name of a location: kooh-e-kolang.
Kooh: mountain, kolang: pickaxe.
I was confused for a while when I saw it in the news, because names of locations are not translated. I mean, one doesn’t translate Isfahan, or Shiraz to English.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 10 2026 20:54 utc | 122
Posted by: Harmonic Resonance | Aug 10 2026 17:38 utc | 117
HR, I tried to post a few links for Santoor, and one of my favorite musical instruments, Kamancheh, but unfortunately it does not post.
Perhaps b can release later.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 10 2026 21:00 utc | 123
Posted by: Exile | Aug 10 2026 19:02 utc | 121
Exile, I build furniture, I work with wood, very quiet mo. Also I take care of little street animals, not easy as many pricks around want them dead. they poison, they run them over.
This is when I step in, damage their mercedes so bitches understand.
I am outraged about lying sites, including this one hiding the causes for the disaster we are all in.
Posted by: stranger | Aug 10 2026 21:07 utc | 124
Will put this here not the Ukraine thread due to its equally important discussion of Russia-Syria, the Mecca Joint Defense Agreement, Russia/Turkey and the looming Erdogan succession, India and more. See the comprehensive and excellent notes beneath the video…
Capitals Uncovered, Ep 150: John Helmer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs9gQeN-duc
“On Putin’s chickens coming home to roost.”
Recommended.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 10 2026 21:23 utc | 125
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 10 2026 20:54 utc | 123
Only an idiot here would think you are Iranian, posting recipes from internet.
What is missing that you are totally false entity pretending to be from Iran.
Wierd that you watch western wahbrains like larry johnson and scot ritter.
That is not what Iranians do.
Posted by: stranger | Aug 10 2026 21:44 utc | 126
Only an idiot here would think you are Iranian
Posted by: stranger | Aug 10 2026 21:44 utc | 127
stranger,
This is a second attack on me, by you.
What is it that I’m sensing? Jealousy, envy, that you are not Iranian?
Don’t you know, haven’t you heard? We’re all Iranian, now.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 10 2026 21:57 utc | 127
@123 Sakineh Bagoom
Kolang also means Crane (the bird), I am just reading through related themes and I will post about that when I have more of an idea. For example the name is used for various mountains in an early survey.
Posted by: Ornot | Aug 11 2026 0:03 utc | 128
I seem to have missed a key part of the process on tah-dig. That when ready to serve, you put a plate on the pot and invert the content by turning the pot over onto the plate. Aesthetics-wise it matters much.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 10 2026 14:28 utc | 110
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Thanks – fortunately I had observed that technique many times from my Iranian ‘refugee’ friend. He always brought the food in the original pot/dish and flipped it with a grand flourish onto the serving tray. Not the timid, faint-hearted type!
Posted by: General Factotum | Aug 11 2026 3:14 utc | 129
Posted by: Exile | Aug 10 2026 19:02 utc | 121
Seconded.
Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 11 2026 4:03 utc | 130
@stranger | Aug 10 2026 18:11 utc | 120
You and exile totally underestimate what will face Russia if they weren’t pragmatic. Both of you are overly emotional since you have a particular struggle in your minds that overshadows boring things like realism.
Russia may beat the west but it may become extremely ugly. Being pragmatic the opponent also adapts.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 11 2026 7:05 utc | 131
An interesting tidbit from Iranintl
No US warships remain in Persian Gulf, IRGC says
IRGC spokesperson Hossein Mohebi said Tuesday that the US had “30 to 40 warships in the region” before the 40-day war, but that today “not even one US warship” is present in the Persian Gulf, Fars News reported.
“If Iran is threatened again, hundreds of thousands of miles of energy transmission lines, thousands of power plants, all US and non-US systems and even global infrastructure connected to the internet will be at risk,” Mohebi said.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 11 2026 17:02 utc | 132
Even America relies on Russia for nuclear fuel and waste. Posted by: Sebgo | Aug 10 2026 8:46 utc | 96
And US uses that nuclear waste to make Depleted Uranium weapons and Russia doesn’t seem to care about that.
Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 11 2026 17:14 utc | 133
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 10 2026 21:57 utc | 128
It is the way of the language that you use. The sources you follow, Ritter, really?
Wikipedia you need for recipes for the idiots here.
No Iranian would use it like this, only western watered down sources.
Jelous of you? They envy our freedoms, Bush. Sounds familiar, western language.
You are either living in the west, or inside Iran as the opposition used to destroy it.
After all, what of value did you post ever, sharmoota?
Who can not find recipes or music?
I do not envy you, I am warning you, liar. So easily trusted by the many old idiots here who have no idea of the world.
And your dirty motivations, ohhh victim exactly like bloody Mossad, so sorry…
Posted by: stranger | Aug 12 2026 18:20 utc | 134
The Cradle News: Ep 255: ‘ISIS is Back’
https://www.youtube.com/@thecradlemedia/streams
“In Lebanon: ISIS prisoners released and Israel collaborators forgiven?”
Syriana Analysis: Ehsan Safarnejad: ‘Iran Holds The Cards’
https://www.youtube.com/@SyrianaAnalysis/streams
“Has Iran’s new strategy turned the tables on Trump?”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 12 2026 18:34 utc | 135