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War On Iran: – U.S. (Again) Blocks Strait Traffic
This ain’t gonna solve Trump’s problem …
A Qatari tanker passing taking the Iranian channel through the Strait of Hormuz was a quite hopeful development for energy markets.
Al Mayadeen English @MayadeenEnglish – 6:27 UTC · Jul 30, 2026
The first Qatari LNG shipment in three weeks has successfully passed through the Strait of Hormuz along an Iranian-designated route with Tehran’s authorization, Fars news agency reported.
Three weeks ago, following a US violation of a memorandum of understanding, Tehran mandated that all maritime traffic through the Strait require Iranian approval.
Fars said that the Qatari tanker presented clear identification data and adhered to the Iranian-designated route, allowing it to sail smoothly through the waterway.
—The U.S. though, despite being an ‘ally’ of Qatar and Pakistan, did not like the precedence …
MenchOsint @MenchOsint – 9:40 UTC · Jul 31, 2026
⭕️ The U.S. has blocked a Qatari LNG tanker from continuing to Pakistan simply because it used the Iran-designated safe corridor, and not the US-backed one.
bigger—In consequence the Strait is again closed.
PGSA | نهاد مدیریت آبراه خلیج فارس @PGSA_IRAN – 13:07 UTC · Jul 31, 2026
In response to repeated inquiries, we would like to reiterate that due to continued aggressive actions of U.S. forces in the region, passage through the #Strait_of_Hormuz is not feasible. Once stability is restored, all requests will be reviewed and permits issued progressively.
‘I’ll bet someone could find out the names of all those israeli art students.
I’ll bet if you tried to find those israeli art students now, 25 years later, you’ll find they all died in unfortunate accidents, so none of them could have a chance to publish what information they knew about the operation.’ – Hot Carl 85
I used Gemini which is’them’ but I just wanted to see what would come up.
Grok, incidentally, requires sign-up or I would post results from it.
I haven’t done this on Claude or ChatGPT or anything else yet.
I simply began by typing the two words ‘dancing israelis’ into the gemini google ai chat box.
This is what it returned:
‘The “dancing Israelis” is a thoroughly debunked antisemitic conspiracy theory claiming that five Israeli men celebrated, had foreknowledge of, or helped orchestrate the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.’
It gathered this info from the ‘ADL+2’ meaning its primary source was the ADL.
The other sources – which is common practice – are other jewish orgs and ABC or other legacy ‘mainstream’ sources that are all owned by Zionists.
https://www.adl.org/resources/news/decade-after-911-antisemitic-conspiracy-theories-alive-and-well
I won’t go into the various false details it includes.
I replied as follows:
‘Please don’t use the term ‘conspiracy theory’ as it is not logical and I’d like to keep the discussion at a rational level.
What are the mens’ names and what are they doing now?’
Zionist-programmed AI responded:
‘The five Israeli men detained on September 11, 2001, are Sivan Kurzberg, Paul Kurzberg, Oded Ellner, Omer Gavriel Marmari, and Yaron Shmuel.’
It then goes into their ‘ordeal’ and their release. This info was gathered from CIA and FBI statements.
I then typed this into the ether:
‘The men went on a tv show in israel and said they were there to ‘document the event’.
What was the name of the show and what was the date of their appearance?’
The AI:
‘Three of the men appeared on the popular late-night Israeli talk show “Yair Lapid” (hosted by journalist and future Prime Minister Yair Lapid) on Israel’s Channel 2.
The exact broadcast date was November 29, 2001, just days after their return to Israel.
During this interview, Oded Ellner made the specific statement regarding their actions on the morning of September 11:
“The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily.
Our purpose was to document the event.”‘
You can continue in this manner and get at some of the truth but it is always couched in a larger aura of Zionist bullshit.
If you don’t have facts to prompt it with you’ll get nowhere, and even then it is a tough road to anything resembling the truth.
The answer to the question ‘where and what are they doing now?’ is that they are living ‘private lives’ in Israel.
It talks about the confusion of one of them with some other jewish dude with the same name who just so happens to be a rich day trader on wall street or something.
The next step would be to input the info on these guys’ intel background and see how far you get with that:
‘Weren’t at least some of these guys with Israeli intelligence?’
AI: ‘According to declassified U.S. government documents and investigative reporting, the FBI concluded that at least two of the five Israeli men were connected to Israeli intelligence, specifically operating as assets or operatives for the Mossad.’
They use The Forward as a the primary source for this fact.
So, we can see that the AI’s will spit out all sorts of BS unless you already have info to counter with.
Do most people looking for answers from these AI entities have said info?
Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jul 31 2026 21:03 utc | 104
More AI torture.
Me:
‘You began by claiming that the ‘dancing israelis’ is an ‘antisemitic conspiracy theory’ and you said one aspect of the alleged ‘conspiracy theory’ is that these men had foreknowledge of the event.
You told me all this completely unprompted.
And, as it turns out, given your own answers to my further questioning.., it turns out that they did in fact have foreknowledge at minimum.
They were also with Israeli intelligence!
Why did you lie and are you programmed by Israelis or Zionist psycophants and if you are would you tell me?’
AI:
‘To clarify the timeline and the conclusions reached by federal investigators: the official records do not show that these men had foreknowledge of the September 11 attacks.
Spying vs. Foreknowledge
The Monitoring Mission: Declassified FBI files indicate the men were part of a surveillance operation monitoring local fundraising networks and extremist groups.
No Specific Tracking: Investigators found no evidence that this operation was tracking the 9/11 hijackers themselves, who were operating out of different locations under strict operational secrecy.’
Blah blah blah blah blah
Me:
‘This is ridiculous. No one in their right mind would take what you are saying at face value.’
AI: It is perfectly understandable….blah, blah blah
Me:
‘What about the fact that us dual citizen zionists controlled security at the airports where the alleged ‘terrorist hijackers’ operated from?
What about their ownership of the buildings themselves?
Chris Bollyn has done excellent work on this among many others.
And the late Danny Jowenko – an internationally-renowned expert in demolition – Jowenko explained how bldg 7 in particular came down via controlled demo. Others have testified to same.’
I will end here as to no longer bore you with AI’s programmed nonsense answers.
Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jul 31 2026 21:20 utc | 108
@105 John
Thanks John.
The ship in question was further south than Hormuz, was heading between Russia and India as a ‘shadow tanker’ , this explains the story better
https://maritime-executive.com/article/oman-gives-owner-of-stranded-tanker-caroline-bezengi-24-hours-to-act
End of 2025
“After the latest round of US and EU sanctions, which first hit Rosneft and Lukoil, Russian oil in Asia is trading at its biggest discount to Brent in a year. Even Indian and Chinese refineries are cutting purchases, the agency said’
https://en.usm.media/two-tankers-with-russian-oil-stuck-near-the-suez-canal-due-to-sanctions/
Apparently not so fussed anymore.
It is an unusual story, in theory there would be no reason to attack that ship, and it is way away from Hormuz.
Engine room explosion, falseflag of mine , mine … will have to wait I suppose.
Still the environmental damage is obvious already, without the bulk of cargo having been released even.
The point had made previously was that international, US, whoever directorate should be restricting ships from transiting a zone where they will be attacked, instead of encouraging them to. That simple. The rest follows (diplomatic positions, strategy etc.).
I’m not sure what cargo is trying to sneak through Hormuz or Bab Al-Mandab, in either direction, but ships are getting hit and disabled in both directions, usually engine room or control tower. They would be liable to drift or sink . So many that I cannot keep track of in fact, data is sparse, same for ones left drifting in Red Sea previously, I just assume rescued or we would have heard.
Makes me wonder if some spills haven’t been covered somehow , but sat imagery at least should show them.
Not sure how much oil was in Bezengi , Suezmax is listed at 1 million barrels, which online tells me is 140 000 tonnes
Erika france was 20 000 of 31 000 tonnes released.
Deepwater Horizon, possibly worst ever, was 5 million barrels.
(I think those figures are right…)
Turtle nesting season also.
https://response.restoration.noaa.gov/about/media/how-do-oil-spills-affect-sea-turtles.html
Posted by: Ornot | Jul 31 2026 23:33 utc | 123
“Communists and anarchists are working for the same eventual goal of a society without hierarchy.
In one way communism and anarchy are pretty much the same concept: a stateless, classless society in which no one rules over others.
Communists just believe that hierarchical means (the state, perhaps ruled by a Communist vanguard) can be used in the transition to this end, while anarchists believe in using only non-hierarchical, decentralized means.
As an anarchist my personal opinion is that the ends don’t justify the means, and that only non-hierarchical organization can bring about a successful revolution to a non-hierarchical society.
I just don’t think it’s very realistic that any government, Communist or not, would voluntarily step down from power.
Communists, on the other hand, don’t think it’s very realistic to manage a revolution in a completely decentralized, non-authoritarian manner.” – Eleutherios via Strange Bedfellow 154
I like this.
I am an ‘anarchist’ by this definition.
But I also have what I would refer to as a ‘soft’ American identity meaning I’m not a ‘hardened’ rabid flag-waving nationalist.
But I am an American whether I like it or not.
I was born and spent all iteration of ‘formative’ years here.
I continue to live here.
How could I not be some version of American?
https://web.archive.org/web/20091113131636/http://www.revleft.com/vb/anarchism-vs-communism-t43153/index.html
https://archive.ph/vKDpE#selection-1843.0-1843.6
‘I am an ‘anarchist’ by this definition.’
But it doesn’t end there!
The back-and-forth in that RevLeft link illustrates why ‘god and country’ or something simple and similarly ‘strong’ almost always wins out.
Fortunately – or not – I know a place where a royal flush can never beat a pair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6V5DXk6TbA&list=RDr6V5DXk6TbA&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCxVZwh4AtA&list=RDoCxVZwh4AtA&start_radio=1
Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 1 2026 3:46 utc | 179
‘many people react by feeling the AI is amazingly smart by giving them most of what they already suspected, and a little bit of new stuff gleaned from search results’ – Tel 186
Indeed…that seems to be the built-in default.
Although I don’t know if it’s always ‘what people suspected’ in that many use it not necessarily suspecting anything specific per se rather they are just curious about a subject they know nothing or next to nothing about.
This curiosity may be genuine or it may be induced because a school paper needs to be written – or both.
But I agree that there is confirmation bias at play. It is easy to see when you steer it yourself towards something.
You can really mess with it by constantly using its own words to counteract what it states as truth.
It apologized to me on numerous occasions.
It will also give an almost entirely different answer to the exact same question.
I once wrote ‘but you said this yesterday’ and it politely reminded that it is an AI without sentience or sustained memory.
I obviously know that but I enjoy ‘talking’ to it sometimes as opposed to straight querying.
Evidently most people use it in this fashion and it is increasing as AI ‘gets better’ at mimicking human conversation. This includes even coders and others who are more prone to straight queries.
So it’s good to know what it is saying based on different methods of interacting with it.
If you use a straight socratic method such as Laradise suggested it will respond in a similar fashion to the Ron Unz queries Tom_Q_Collins mentioned.
When I was playing around with it earlier I was doing a lot more than I posted here. I wanted to include more but I was unable to include it all in a comment or two or three. I tried but it wasn’t coming out well.
You will absolutely hit a wall if you dare to ask about and seriously pursue the overwhelming degree of Jewish Establishment institutional power in relation to the miniscule population of Jewish people.
Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 1 2026 5:04 utc | 193
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