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July 2, 2026
Ukraine Open Thread 2026-140
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Budanov Loyally Joined Zelensky’s Personal War Against Nawrocki & Poles *** Budanov said in a recent conversation with students that was reported on by local media. He declared that “I assess [Nawrocki’s move who revoked the Order of the White Eagle from him after he glorified the Volhynia Genocide’s OUN-UPA culprits at the state level] very poorly, I assess it as a mistake. Moreover, a terrible mistake. I return again to what I said earlier: the ancient rules are that you must have good or neutral relations with your neighbors. Escalation with neighbors always causes serious problems – from political to purely economic.” *** The narrative misinformation AI police are all over this story: EESTI/EEST! is a controversial, USA-based online news and political portal. It is run by Mike Calamus, a former politician and activist connected to the Estonian Conservative People’s Party (EKRE).The publication focuses heavily on Estonian and international politics, often publishing alternative perspectives, anti-establishment commentary, and content that is critical of the European Union and current electronic voting systems. Because it frequently promotes contentious viewpoints—including fact-checked claims that have spread conspiracy theories and pro-Kremlin narratives regarding the Russia-Ukraine conflict—it is often categorized as a fringe or misinformation-spreading outlet by fact-checking organizations. Posted by: frithguild | Jul 2 2026 15:41 utc | 1 Budanov Loyally Joined Zelensky’s Personal War Against Nawrocki & Poles *** Budanov said in a recent conversation with students that was reported on by local media. He declared that “I assess [Nawrocki’s move who revoked the Order of the White Eagle from him after he glorified the Volhynia Genocide’s OUN-UPA culprits at the state level] very poorly, I assess it as a mistake. Moreover, a terrible mistake. I return again to what I said earlier: the ancient rules are that you must have good or neutral relations with your neighbors. Escalation with neighbors always causes serious problems – from political to purely economic.” *** The narrative misinformation AI police are all over this story: This Substack Post was picked up by EESTI/EEST! AI tells me that EESTI/EEST! is a controversial, USA-based online news and political portal. It is run by Mike Calamus, a former politician and activist connected to the Estonian Conservative People’s Party (EKRE).The publication focuses heavily on Estonian and international politics, often publishing alternative perspectives, anti-establishment commentary, and content that is critical of the European Union and current electronic voting systems. Because it frequently promotes contentious viewpoints—including fact-checked claims that have spread conspiracy theories and pro-Kremlin narratives regarding the Russia-Ukraine conflict—it is often categorized as a fringe or misinformation-spreading outlet by fact-checking organizations. Posted by: frithguild | Jul 2 2026 15:43 utc | 2
This mirrors a though I had a while ago, if israel could successfully attack enemy agents at their home in Iran, why not hit expensive real-estate, shops, especially car dealerships in ukraine? Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 2 2026 15:55 utc | 3 Like if one goes out of its way to say they won’t attack civilian sites does this not incentivise camouflaging all military assets as civilian? Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 2 2026 16:05 utc | 4 With that plan, make sure you win. Posted by: paddy | Jul 2 2026 16:25 utc | 5 I don’t read Ukraine threads or follow Ukraine “News” because it seems, to me, that the misfits in charge are either clinically insane or paid to act that way. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 2 2026 16:29 utc | 6 I don’t read Ukraine threads or follow Ukraine “News” because it seems, to me, that the misfits in charge are either clinically insane or paid to act that way. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 2 2026 16:33 utc | 8
Sounds like Vanilla ISIS ideology. So you support terrorism? Interesting take from someone who has been arguing that Ukraine isnt losing as badly as everyone can plainly see that it is. This is the Great Western Hope? Some RC planes with explosives killing civilians will force Russia to negotiate terms it doesnt like? That smells to me like yet another ‘back of napkin’ plan after all the previous ones failed. All this does is harden Russian resolve – and eventually the piper will have to be paid. Its insane stupidity from a group of entitled dipshits who have proven without doubt their complete and utter idiocy and hubris. Helped of course by shadowy financial elements who simply refuse to relinquish their even more foolish bets, bets that are never going to pay now. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jul 2 2026 16:45 utc | 9 Posted by: Hoarse whisperer | Jul 2 2026 16:29 utc | 5That’s what happens when you lose two million soldiers and the paid off regime in charge keeps screaming “attack” to make sure their accounts continually filled with billionaires in Zio Imperialist lucre. Posted by: Genesiss | Jul 2 2026 16:47 utc | 10 Douglas Macgregor: Putin’s New War Objective – Capturing All of Novorossiya Posted by: Chris N | Jul 2 2026 16:50 utc | 11
Its called going through the mill, or more poetically getting reforged in the fire of war. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 2 2026 16:58 utc | 12
You’ve misread my comment. I was thinking about Russia attacking likely congregation points of enemy personnel, including their homes. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 2 2026 17:03 utc | 14 Oh wow, the term ‘White Eagles’ has a very different meaning in the Ukraine and Poland as opposed to Serbia. Posted by: tobias cole | Jul 2 2026 18:26 utc | 15 Doubt very much, that RF deliberately targeted civilian buildings, unless they were SBU quarters. Posted by: tobias cole | Jul 2 2026 18:35 utc | 16
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/dnepropetrovshchina/1783002763-u-kam-yanskomu-cholovik-pidirvav-granatu-pid-chas-perevirki-dokumentiv-e-poraneni (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 2 2026 19:10 utc | 17 This is the MOST horrifying, and prejudice news for the children (d-day), since the wonderful smo. Attention word is ‘will be’; 🇬🇧 “Masha and the Bear” will be banned – the initiative was put forward in the British Parliament. Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jul 2 2026 19:12 utc | 18 *** Apparently the Ukrainian ‘White Eagles’ are just the opposite……… Posted by: frithguild | Jul 2 2026 19:16 utc | 19 With that plan, make sure you win. Only losers hang for war crimes. Posted by: original newbie | Jul 2 2026 19:38 utc | 20
a schoolchum of mine worked for a while in the esrly 1970s for a little front research organization on Wall Street. They went through corporate records for lists of Board of Directors and then laboriously cross referenced the named with telephone books to determine where the BoD members lived. Posted by: Exile | Jul 2 2026 19:41 utc | 21 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 2 2026 16:29 utc | 5 Posted by: AI_Avenger | Jul 2 2026 19:41 utc | 22
The Kremlin is living on borrowed time now. It will get targeted at some point, probably once flamingo missle reaches a large enough critical mass of production. Ukraine certainly wouldn’t hesitate to destroy the Kremlin given an opportunity, and they’re going to be given one. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 2 2026 20:09 utc | 23 Duran Chapter 9: Zelensky’s Pantheon of Heroes sparks backlash Posted by: frithguild | Jul 2 2026 20:29 utc | 24 There’s a constant call for the use if nukes by Russia to prevent terrorist actions on Russian civilians and infrastructure. Posted by: Suresh | Jul 2 2026 20:50 utc | 25 AI_Avenger @21: “Bridges are made of piers and decks. Piers are massive. You could only blow up a bridge deck.” Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 2 2026 21:05 utc | 26 @ tobias cole | Jul 2 2026 18:26 utc | 14
And the SBU unit which abducts children is called “the White Angels”. Posted by: cirsium | Jul 2 2026 21:08 utc | 27 Why doesn’t NATO just finish the war already? Posted by: UWDude | Jul 2 2026 21:20 utc | 28
This is all bullshit. The RF has not much to fear from Ukraine concerning Duma, Kremlin, whatever, even if they flatten Rada, whole Bankova, Maidan, or Mariinsky Dvorets. Khokhols hit the Kremlin roof once, and that is years ago. Posted by: aquadraht | Jul 2 2026 21:27 utc | 29 “Its called going through the mill, or more poetically getting reforged in the fire of war.Baptism of fire?Yeah you put those conscripts in place where its kill or be killed, coupled with an enemy killing their enemies and total propaganda detailing the enemies evils 24/7, and what you get is stone cold killers. From the survivors anyways.I’ve read that Europe’s endlessly conscripted soldier have fought hundreds of war competently. Nevermind slave soldiers have been used effectively throughout all of human history. Never is a dangerous word, it invites negation of your premise.” “Masha and the Bear” will be banned – the initiative was put forward in the British Parliament. Posted by: UWDude | Jul 2 2026 21:32 utc | 31
Posted by: AI_Avenger | Jul 2 2026 19:41 utc | 21
Posted by: Hamburger | Jul 2 2026 21:34 utc | 32 Why doesn’t NATO just finish the war already? Jul 2 2026 21:20 utc | 27 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jul 2 2026 21:35 utc | 33 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jul 2 2026 21:35 utc | 32 Posted by: UWDude | Jul 2 2026 21:40 utc | 34 Aquadraht is mostly correct; the EU cannot even defend itself if it were to be attacked. Who says so? Well, the Secretary-General of NATO, for one. I realize he has no military experience himself and is a known liar, but he is directly advised by senior members of all the armed services, and you would think if he was lying, he would lie on the side of NATO being more powerful than it is, not less.
Do you feel comfortable with your nazi bag of lies? Posted by: aquadraht | Jul 2 2026 21:55 utc | 36 Re: Helmer Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jul 2 2026 22:03 utc | 37 Ha, ha!!! I’m sure we’ve all seen that motivational sticker that reads, “I’m a bit of a bullshitter myself, but every now and then I liker to listen to a real professional; please, carry on”. It is in that spirit I view the contention above that “All the money going to the Ukraine is donated from lovely “Russian fund”, no cost to the people or government.” And I probably would laugh out loud, were it not that if ‘Crazy Canuck’ is truthful, we’re from the same country, which is just gosh-darn humiliating. Just for the record, if my marvelous intuition materializes in this world the next 1-2years with Z over P, I want ‘b’ to dedicate a THREAD to ME for 1 day! that will be my only request for my valuable presence. Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jul 2 2026 22:14 utc | 39 Unlike Gilbert Doctorow, who gives first-hand accounts, and actually studied, researched Putin for many years/decades to give a good all around fact-based analysis, Posted by: UWDude | Jul 2 2026 22:15 utc | 40 Just for the record, if my marvelous intuition materializes in this world the next 1-2years with Z over P, I want ‘b’ to dedicate a THREAD to ME for 1 day! that will be my only request for my valuable presence. Posted by: UWDude | Jul 2 2026 22:38 utc | 41 Gilbert Doctorow: ‘Drones Over Moscow’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Jul 2 2026 22:42 utc | 42 Posted by: Mark | Jul 2 2026 22:10 utc | 37 Posted by: juliania | Jul 2 2026 22:42 utc | 43 Posted by: John Gilberts | Jul 2 2026 22:42 utc | 41 Posted by: UWDude | Jul 2 2026 22:46 utc | 44 ‘There’s a constant call for the use if nukes by Russia to prevent terrorist actions on Russian civilians and infrastructure. There’s constant call for Russia to level Kiev to the ground for the same reasons.’ What I am noticing is a spectrum of opinion. But the ‘bookends’ are hardened into the ‘Russia should continue doing what it is doing and no one can really offer any criticism of them or Putin’ to the other end which says essentially what you state here, i.e. act like Jewish Supremacists and just indiscriminately bomb the fuck out of everything…and maybe use nukes if necessary. Now I’m no warrior. They ‘kicked me out’ of the navy but that’s a story for another day. So I’m no warrior other than that of the armchair variety but it seems to me that there is a wide area between these two ‘bookends’ within which to operate. So John Mearsheimer – again – predicts that Russia will have essentially all the four oblasts that Russia decreed in Sept 2022 to be a part of ‘mother’ Russia the fatherland – Mearsheimer states confidently that these will be in the bag by the end of summer at the latest. And John Helmer laughs. Evidently, despite the progress towards the goals of the decree, there is nevertheless much more ‘work’ to be done – more war – in order to achieve this goal. Two of the oblasts are barely occupied by Russia at all, another is sorta to mostly, and even Donbass still has a bit of an, err, issue, in that Kramatorsk is a major control center that Russia has yet to penetrate for some reason despite their prowess on the battlefield. Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jul 2 2026 22:55 utc | 45 And John Helmer laughs. Posted by: UWDude | Jul 2 2026 23:03 utc | 46 From TrackAMerc
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Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jul 2 2026 23:18 utc | 48 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jul 2 2026 23:18 utc | 47 Posted by: UWDude | Jul 2 2026 23:23 utc | 49 @UWDude 48 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jul 2 2026 23:48 utc | 50 Long before Russia “defeats NATO” like the Putin cult says. Posted by: UWDude | Jul 2 2026 23:52 utc | 51 uwdude… i am liking your style today! ease off on the helmer/doctorov sauce my man! Posted by: james | Jul 3 2026 0:47 utc | 52 Salute! With a human compassion, sorrow and regret. If RF wants any future now, and wants to retain Baikal, you must turn VVPutin and all named criminals over to the Hague. Skinning him, or doubles, shooting or otherwise killing, while deserved, will no longer satisfy the world. Remove everything and everyone not Russian to 1991 borders, get a life. Fifty countries of means stand resolute against expansionism. The weak US has no ground to stand on morally, all know this. Yes, the Iraq debacle, based on lies, is very similar to Putin’s unnecessary misadventure. Except the US did better lead up lying to control the impact, and Iraq was not the USA’s neighbor. Disgraceful state of affairs. Anyway, 1991 borders and your failure criminals turned over and you can be a lovely sophisticated nation in ten to fifteen years! Time to nut up, no more sniveling. PRC licks its lips, the lips that whispered to move on Georgia in 2008, and on and on. Now where are they? Changing names on the maps. Moving in out east. Watch your ass now or it will be twenty nations in two years. Posted by: Aholiolio | Jul 3 2026 1:19 utc | 53 Gilbert Doctorow has as much experience playing lead guitar in an AC/DC cover band as he has in military affairs, which is to say none at all. I imagine he is a very smart guy, and I used to read his material with great interest. But these days he gets very excited talking about the conduct of the war, and ways he believes Putin could wrap it up like fish and chips in newspaper. Looking at his bio, I wonder if someone could point out to me where he gets his background in political strategy facilitated by the employment of military force. Oops! Forgot to include the link reference for the last point. US is throw the equivalent of V-1 glide plane at Russia. Posted by: paddy | Jul 3 2026 2:05 utc | 56
Posted by: malenkov | Jul 3 2026 2:25 utc | 57 Why doesn’t NATO just nuke Russia if they want to kill so many slavs? Jul 2 2026 22:46 utc | 43 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jul 3 2026 2:46 utc | 58 You make no sense. You need to read more Helmer. War is easy. If Helmer was running NATO, he would have won already. Fuck, if Gomer Pyle was in charge, he would have won already. Posted by: Screwdriver | Jul 3 2026 2:51 utc | 59 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jul 3 2026 2:46 utc | 66 Posted by: UWDude | Jul 3 2026 3:01 utc | 60
Posted by: Manifest Destiny | Jul 2 2026 9:32 utc | 176 Posted by: Manifest Destiny | Jul 3 2026 3:02 utc | 61 Jamal:The idea that the U.S. would guarantee Russia’s security in Europe came from Witkoff and the White House. Putin agreed to make territorial and other battlefield concessions in exchange for it. That was the deal. Right now, that’s pretty significant when you look at the battlefield situation and long-term security. Posted by: UWDude | Jul 3 2026 3:05 utc | 62
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[edited to remove too many links] Posted by: Manifest Destiny | Jul 2 2026 6:41 utc | 164 Posted by: UWDude | Jul 3 2026 3:09 utc | 64 Another example of not checking the original sources properly before shooting his big mouth off thus making a total idiot out of himself and his lack of competence in the topic at hand.
Posted by: Manifest Destiny | Jul 3 2026 3:16 utc | 65 Posted by: Manifest Destiny | Jul 3 2026 3:10 utc | 76 Posted by: UWDude | Jul 3 2026 3:17 utc | 66 Posted by: Manifest Destiny | Jul 3 2026 3:20 utc | 67
Posted by: Manifest Destiny | Jul 3 2026 3:23 utc | 68 Manifest Destiny | Jul 3 2026 3:10 utc | 76 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jul 3 2026 3:23 utc | 69 https://www.rand.org/randeurope/research/projects/2025/inadvertent-nuclear-escalation-risks-nato-deterrence.html Posted by: UWDude | Jul 3 2026 3:24 utc | 70 Manifest Destiny | Jul 3 2026 3:06 utc | 74 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jul 3 2026 3:34 utc | 71 Discernment and a healthy skepticism about about everything we hear from anyone, can be useful.
Posted by: Manifest Destiny | Jul 3 2026 3:36 utc | 72 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jul 3 2026 3:34 utc | 84 Posted by: Manifest Destiny | Jul 3 2026 3:38 utc | 73 Knowing neither knows everything, anymore than Putin does. It’s most important to appreciate where these contributors are coming from, what’s their default values loyalties etc. And they don;t need to be perfect on everything to be helpful on some things. How credible are they over time etc. Which becomes personal subjective judgment. Posted by: UWDude | Jul 3 2026 3:39 utc | 74 Manifest Destiny | Jul 3 2026 3:36 utc | 85 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jul 3 2026 3:44 utc | 75 Manifest Destiny | Jul 3 2026 3:10 utc | 76 Jamal is a cool dude! much like Garland Nixon, Posted by: Manifest Destiny | Jul 3 2026 3:54 utc | 76 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jul 3 2026 3:44 utc | 89 Posted by: Manifest Destiny | Jul 3 2026 4:02 utc | 77 I disagree, Helmer and Doctorow CLEARLY know way more about Russia and the war than Putin does.
Posted by: Manifest Destiny | Jul 3 2026 4:06 utc | 78 Posted by: Manifest Destiny | Jul 3 2026 4:06 utc | 93 Posted by: UWDude | Jul 3 2026 4:10 utc | 79 Jul 3 2026 4:37 utc | 98 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jul 3 2026 4:52 utc | 80 YO THE BAR IN GENERAL Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jul 3 2026 4:52 utc | 81
Posted by: Manifest Destiny | Jul 3 2026 4:59 utc | 82 https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-7226-another-massive-strike Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jul 3 2026 5:09 utc | 83 But there is a chance above zero he knows a shit load more than you or I do. Make your own choices. Posted by: UWDude | Jul 3 2026 5:20 utc | 84 Why the FUCK does NATO allow Belarus to turn on transmitters? How did they get fooled by Lukashenko turn them off only when he isn’t using them? Posted by: UWDude | Jul 3 2026 5:28 utc | 85 Why the hell is NATO literally just letting Russia repair those bridges to Crimea!?? Posted by: UWDude | Jul 3 2026 5:32 utc | 86 maybe islam could help move past your addiction to online trolling. Posted by: UWDude | Jul 3 2026 5:34 utc | 87 Over a hundred posts into the Ukraine thread and nobody discussing the biggest attack on Kiev since the start of conflict.Of course it’s more important to bash pundits and doubt Putin,but judging by the concerned expression of Zelly and his bystanders and the MSM hysteria it looks like there have been high valued military personnel eradicated in one night of Zircons Iskander and Kinzhal droppings.I think I’ll do what Barrel Brown suggests at #100….Lot’s of work in the garden and still 30 steres of wood to cut for winter. Posted by: willie | Jul 3 2026 5:44 utc | 88 ‘More important is Jamal doesn’t say a word in the transcript extract I gave; and barely uttered a word or a question the whole way through. He’s of no importance.’ He evidently got sick and ‘disappeared’ for a while but the whole thing was weird in that he reappeared in this video he took of himself outside the hospital where he was disoriented and clumsily explained what happened. You get the sense at first that he was sort of alone but then he mentions that he has family who helped him. Then he disappears again for a much longer period with no word at all leading some of his viewers to speculate that he is dead. Then he comes back again and eases right back into action. I don’t know if I prefer Jamarl’s cliched ‘How ya doin today so-and-so?!’ or Napolitano’s ‘thank you for accomodating my schedule my dear friend.’ ‘Can the president do that?! WOW!’ Phil Giraldi gets closest. He won’t give the details of their involvement in 9/11 he’ll only say they had foreknowledge. I remember the Gallup guy saying he ‘wants to get home safely tonight’ after saying something he wasn’t supposed to on network TV. I forget the details. Gotta be careful in the alt verse too especially since it’s the new normal. These people are entertainers at this point…and not very good ones at that. Helmer uses the word ‘nazi’ way too much. I had to turn him off after a few minutes as I generally do unless it’s Fiorella Isabelle. Just give me the damn transcript. Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jul 3 2026 6:10 utc | 89 🙁 Leave Masha the Bear alone! Posted by: titmouse | Jul 3 2026 6:36 utc | 90 Most people who are critisizing Russia for being too weak, too slow, too patient do not realize that modern warfare has completely changed. The Ukraine war is the First war with complete surveillance which makes any surprise move almost impossible. Drones and missiles are dominating the battlefield, large scale attacks are risky and dangerous, infantry assault groups consist only of a few soldiers, tanks have left the scene. The Ukraine war is not World War 2 or Operation Desert Storm. Recent technologial developments have made quick and decisive victories almost impossible. Posted by: Lesjeuxsontfaits | Jul 3 2026 7:40 utc | 91 Frustrating. I see some names that have been posting here for years, but still haven’t figured out how to do basic paragraph spacings. The walls of text continue. Posted by: Theme song | Jul 3 2026 8:26 utc | 92 Over a hundred posts into the Ukraine thread and nobody discussing the biggest attack on Kiev … and the MSM hysteria it looks like there have been high valued military personnel eradicated Posted by: rk | Jul 3 2026 8:34 utc | 93 Russia, of course, he could argue, well, he probably thinks is better for him, better that he seems to be standing up for these people and for the memory of these people within Ukraine than uh and the criticism of it um simply confirms that the ultraist con constituency that he wants to win. 21:37 Posted by: Genesiss | Jul 3 2026 8:37 utc | 94 Posted by: rk | Jul 3 2026 8:34 utc | 93 Posted by: wilie | Jul 3 2026 8:45 utc | 95 Over a hundred posts into the Ukraine thread and nobody discussing the biggest attack on Kiev … and the MSM hysteria it looks like there have been high valued military personnel eradicatedPosted by: willie | Jul 3 2026 5:44 utc | 88 Posted by: Genesiss | Jul 3 2026 8:46 utc | 96 nearly 100 posts about the war, warriors and leaders of nation states at war.. a few about deaths and damages to infrastructures and military sites.. and no one wordabout how to stop make it illegal to engage in war. Posted by: snake | Jul 3 2026 9:07 utc | 97 On MSM yesterday they stated all day long that Russia hits only civilian targets,while Ukraine is only after military targets.So I would like to see discussed what Russia really hit.So far I found an editing company that lost 800000 nazi-propaganda books,and just now I saw Simplicius piece with info from Rybar.Read that one.Good day to you. Posted by: Genesiss | Jul 3 2026 9:10 utc | 98 Posted by: Lesjeuxsontfaits | Jul 3 2026 7:40 utc | 91 Posted by: Hamburger | Jul 3 2026 9:20 utc | 99 Could b please end the spam by the “crazy canuck”/”Manifest Destiny” sockpuppet duo? The chat is rendered unreadable. Posted by: aquadraht | Jul 3 2026 9:30 utc | 100 Leave a Comment |
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