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July 9, 2026
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10 year gov‘t debt as of 1200 Thursday NYC
 
4.57% USA
1.73%  PRC
 
 

Posted by: Exile | Jul 9 2026 14:45 utc | 1

South American teams at Mondial punished, except for Argentina where relations with US and Israel are best since the Junta days.
 
not really fair to Ecuador and Colombia as they just got couped

Posted by: Polli | Jul 9 2026 15:08 utc | 2

Bonkers Burnham – the annointed King of England apparently will have no challengers as NuLabour leader. 
 
 
It seems not enough Corbynites are left to nominate a challenge. It’s a total stitch up.
 
 
He doesn’t even have to go on hustings to lay out a manifesto or promise to carry out the one that starmzy fronted at the general election! Which he ignored…
 
 
However he has confirmed he is as much of not more war-war as the beeb reports.
 
 

A central part of his policy offering is a pledge to give all parts of the UK “greater public control” of the water and energy sectors, although he is yet to spell out what this would mean in practice.
In a Times article on Thursday, external, he also confirmed he wants to keep Sir Keir’s national security adviser Jonathan Powell, a former Blair aide, in post.
He also said he wanted to see a “sustained increase” in defence investment, without committing to a specific target, whilst being “more open with the public” about cost overruns or delays to military procurement.
In one of his final decisions as prime minister, Sir Keir announced a plan to increase military spending by £15bn over the next four years by cutting spending in other parts of government, whilst leaving the details to his successor.

 
 
JonnyPol remains in control of the deepstate imperial wars foreign policy. 
 
ZERO CHANGE FOR PEACE AND PUBLIC SERVICES. 
 
MASSIVE WAR FOOTING. 
 
 
THEY HAVE NO REVERSE GEAR. 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 9 2026 15:58 utc | 3

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 9 2026 15:58 utc | 3
 
Burnham is much more sensitive than Starmer to what people want. He made a success of Manchester, why not of UK? Evidently he doesn’t have a very fixed ideology, as you appear to want of a PM.
 
At least he is not in the Lobby’s pocket in the way that Starmer is. The Lobby understood Stamer’s basic lack of self-confidence at an early stage, and exploited it. Burnham doesn’t lack self-confidence, and doesn’t have any deep commitment to Zionism, no Jewish wife and children. He may well have been a member of LFI, many are for political convenience, but we may find that the commitment is superficial, when serious political crises come up, exposing Israel as a pariah state. Starmer would always stick with Israel, against British interests, Burnham may not.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jul 9 2026 16:54 utc | 4

THEY HAVE NO REVERSE GEAR. 
Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 9 2026 15:58 utc | 3
 
 
 
There is no reverse because there are no gears. We are all being extruded through a barbed tube.
 
No way out but through.
 
 
 
 
The Gulag Archipelago — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
 
“The exceptional character which written and oral legend nowadays assigns to the year 1937 is seen in the creation of fabricated charges and  tortures. But this is untrue, wrong. Throughout the years and decades, interrogations under Article 58 were almost never undertaken to elicit the truth, but were simply an exercise in an inevitably filthy procedure: someone who had been free only a little while before, who was sometimes proud and always unprepared, was to be bent and pushed through a narrow pipe where his sides would be torn by iron hooks and where he could not breathe, so that he would finally pray to get to the other end. And at the other end, he would be shoved out, an already processed native of the Archipelago, already in the promised land. (The fool would keep on resisting! He even thought there was a way back out of the pipe.)”

Posted by: GreatLakesObserver | Jul 9 2026 17:14 utc | 5

Here’s what I really think really happened with Covid, the “response” to which killed far more people than any recent wars.
 
I do use a dollop of satire and employ dramatic license to punch up my speculative summary of Covid’s most significant events.
 
It’s a mad, mad world.
 
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/heres-what-i-think-really-happened

Posted by: GMST | Jul 9 2026 17:22 utc | 6

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Tables are possible here? (using HTML code)

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 17:34 utc | 7

Nope: the table looks OK in the comment-entry thingy, but just falls apart after being rendered in the comment thread.
 
It’s like the composition window knows how to format HTML (entered by switching to the “Code” tab) but the rendering code for the thread is totally ignorant of it (perhaps deliberately so?). (It does “know” about a limited subset, like the bulleted and numbered lists, blockquotes, bold/italic/underline/strikethrough text and links.)
 
Please, please fix this broken code!

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 17:38 utc | 8

Here’s what I really think really happened with Covid, the “response” to which killed far more people than any recent wars.
 
Posted by: GMST | Jul 9 2026 17:22 utc | 6
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Really?
 
I just ran across my COVID vaccination card from 2021. I got 3 shots, I guess two main ones and a booster. (I also got COVID, twice.)
 
So by your reckoning I should either be dead or severely ailing, but I’m neither. (At least I don’t think I’m dead yet.)
 
Don’t get me wrong: I’m not saying that the whole response to the pandemic (which was not a “plandemic”) wasn’t completely fucked-up, and that Big Pharma doesn’t have a hell of a lot to answer for here, or that Fauci wasn’t lying through his teeth about gain-of-function research and all that. But the story being told by y’all that the whole thing was a gigantic plan to genetically modify the entire population, I just can’t buy that.
 
And wasn’t it Trump himself who pushed “Operation Warp Speed”?
 
I guess this puts me in the minority here, eh?

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 17:44 utc | 9

I didn’t get any shots or boosters and I’m fine – I never got Covid or Rebound Covid. In fact, if you read my investigative journalism you will see that my main contrarian conclusion is that virus spread began many months before the official narrative states. I myself am confident I had Covid in January 2020, two months before the first confirmed case in my state (and thus, likely acquired natural immunity, which would explain how this non-vaccinated person never got Covid.)I call this theory “early spead.” What if millions of people had already been infected by late 2019 and January 2020? Where was this big spike in all-cause deaths for this “deadly” virus? (Answer: It not there, didn’t happen). Another way to ask this question: Why did a super-contagious virus wait until late March 2020 to suddenly become “deadly?” Yes, Trump supported Warp Speed, and I can’t stand Trump. He also (still) thinks the Covid shots “saved millions of lives” when they really killed millions of lives (IMO). FWIW, Trump actually believes Iran’s leaders murdered 54,000 protestors in a matter of a couple of days in January 2020. That’s preposterous and even, probably, impossible. (Where are the 54,000 bodies?)BTW, do you know anything about the embalmers’ clots? In your opinion, do you think they are real? Should someone in public health be investigating this phenomena? If no one is, why is this?

Posted by: GMST | Jul 9 2026 17:59 utc | 10

Today’s Wolff/Hudson/Nima discussion looks at the Big Picture as they’ve done often. Hudson in summation might have said Neoliberals are what Rump refers to as Communists, while using the term Neofeudalists instead–since they covet rent and 100% control, a very different Trotskyite formulation. Wolff provides an excellent example of how there are two tails wagging the dog–Zionist and European–for very similar reasons. Ultimately, the conflict is between the Global Majority and the Outlaw US Empire for the former’s freedom from Colonial Mafia control. Currently, Russia and Iran are the main defenders of the Global Majority and are on the firing line. A significant portion of the Global Majority remains on the fence unable to see the Big Picture with clarity, which is why Hudson and Wolff frame their discussions together and separately as they do. The key is not to get distracted by the daily happenings but to see how they can be combined to provide the overview that’s required, otherwise the main conflict will be obscured as the Empire desires and its narrative insists. 

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 9 2026 18:20 utc | 11

BTW, do you know anything about the embalmers’ clots? In your opinion, do you think they are real? Should someone in public health be investigating this phenomena? If no one is, why is this?
 
Posted by: GMST | Jul 9 2026 17:59 utc | 10
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No, don’t know about “embalmer’s clots”, and certainly don’t have them myself (so far I can tell, anyhow). I’m pretty much “in the pink” here.
 
But do I think concerns like this should be investigated? Absolutely!
 
All the stuff about gain-of-function research, the joint research with the Wuhan virology lab, EcoHealth Alliance and Peter Daszak, should be scrutinized.
 
I just don’t trust RFKjr. as far as I could throw him. I think he’s pretty much full of shit and shouldn’t be in the position of power and trust he’s in. Someone else should be doing this, someone trustworthy. (Too much to ask, I know.) Someone who’s not in bed with the most far-out of the anti-vaccine kooks. Someone with some scientific cred.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 18:21 utc | 12

Hudson in summation might have said Neoliberals are what Rump refers to as Communists, while using the term Neofeudalists instead–since they covet rent and 100% control, a very different Trotskyite formulation.
 
Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 9 2026 18:20 utc | 11
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Karl, just one thing: how is that in any way, shape or form a “Trotskyite formulation”?
 
I don’t see him (Lev Davidovich) as having been a rent-seeker.
 
You don’t happen to be a Stalinist, do you?

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 18:25 utc | 13

JfK jr. is onlx asking that the science be rigorously followed. He‘s a sensible and prudent leader in the area. 

Posted by: Exile | Jul 9 2026 18:45 utc | 14

George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 18:25 utc | 13
 
Thanks for your reply which elicited a guffaw for I’m not a Stalinist. My understanding of Trotsky is he coveted a global communist system–total control–which is what the so-called Globalists/Neoliberals aim to attain. Yes, rent seeking isn’t part of communist doctrine but is integrated into the sort of socialism being sought–the government becomes the collector of all rents. The problem is the Diktat as opposed to letting millions of blossoms to bloom, which is what the Empire is trying to impose–do what we say or else. What Rump and his masters are trying to create is a Mafia Capitalist System on a global scale.    

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 9 2026 18:48 utc | 15

BTW Ron Unz did a deep dive into the Corona Topic with many solid articles, worth reading; 
 
https://www.unz.com/runz/after-four-years-and-thirty-million-deaths/

Posted by: Exile | Jul 9 2026 18:50 utc | 16

BTW Ron Unz did a deep dive into the Corona Topic with many solid articles, worth reading insinuating, leading conspiratorial screeds, poorly researched and annotated and not worth your time.
 
Posted by: Exile | Jul 9 2026 18:50 utc | 16
 
FIFY
 
Just trying to separate the wheat from the chaff here.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 18:56 utc | 17

George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 18:25 utc | 13
 
Thanks for your reply which elicited a guffaw for I’m not a Stalinist. My understanding of Trotsky is he coveted a global communist system–total control–which is what the so-called Globalists/Neoliberals aim to attain. Yes, rent seeking isn’t part of communist doctrine but is integrated into the sort of socialism being sought–the government becomes the collector of all rents. The problem is the Diktat as opposed to letting millions of blossoms to bloom, which is what the Empire is trying to impose–do what we say or else. What Rump and his masters are trying to create is a Mafia Capitalist System on a global scale.
 
Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 9 2026 18:48 utc | 15
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Thanks for the reply.
 
Hopefully not to belabor the point here, which was a tangent to your original post, but while Trotsky was a forceful advocate of world Communist revolution (as opposed to Stalin’s “revolution in one country”), he was not, so far as I can tell, what we would call a “control freak” as he is now often painted as.
 
In fact, it’s worth noting that in the early days of the Revolution (1917), before state control had solidified in Russia, free expression in the arts—painting, music, theater—flourished. In fact, some of the most creative and rebellious stuff imaginable was produced in that time. And Trotsky was certainly not opposed to this creative upsurging. It wasn’t until Stalin’s takeover that the severe clampdown on Soviet art, “socialist realism” and all that, took hold.
 
So I think it’s unfair to paint Trotsky as some grim determined bureaucrat who was only interested in how many tractors and machine tools could be produced, at the expense of singing and dancing (as in Emma Goldman’s famous “If I can’t dance, I don’t want to be part of your revolution!“).
 
If you’re really interested in learning about Trotsky, I highly recommend Isaac Deutcher’s definitive 3-volume work: The Prophet Armed, The Prophet Unarmed and The Prophet Outcast. Warning: it’s a big undertaking reading this. But well worth it. Deutscher is something of a Trotsky partisan, but to his credit he’s quite fair-minded and actually fairly objective: he does point out the mistakes he made.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 19:13 utc | 18

Trotsky was a mass murderer. 

Posted by: Exile | Jul 9 2026 19:17 utc | 19

Trotsky was a mass murderer.
 
Posted by: Exile | Jul 9 2026 19:17 utc | 19
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Thank you for that, Ron Unz.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 19:19 utc | 20

Nah, russia and china have proven to be almost as imperialist when it comes to financial matters … Even if they were not, there is no way this western based pleb would ever be allowed to use a fair financial system that they would ever launch! 

Posted by: E | Jul 9 2026 19:26 utc | 21

JfK jr. is onlx asking that the science be rigorously followed. He‘s a sensible and prudent leader in the area. 
 
Posted by: Exile | Jul 9 2026 18:45 utc | 14

 
JFK Jr. died in a plane crash in 1999.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 9 2026 19:45 utc | 22

George the Zeroth: “No, don’t know about “embalmer’s clots”, and certainly don’t have them myself (so far I can tell, anyhow). I’m pretty much “in the pink” here.”
 
I certainly hope you don’t have them, but you really won’t ever know …. as if you do have these things in your veins, you will be dead when an embalmer discovers them.
 
I have researched this topic extensively and have interviewed the world’s most famous/infamous and bravest embalmer, Richard Hirschman.
 
If you are vaccinated, your odds of having these “white, fibrous, rubbery” and, often, thick and long clots in your veins and arteries is about 1-in-5 (20 percent).
 
This percentage is a finding from four annual surveys commissioned by a man named Tom Haviland with approximately 900 embalmers.
 
So 80 percent of vaccinated people/corposes don’t have these things in their veins at the time of their embalming – but 20 percent do (plus “dirty, coffee-grind blood.”)
 
If you extrapolate 20 percent of dead people to the number of vaccinated people who have died since December 2020, that’s tens of millions of people (probably hundreds of millions world-wide.) Of course, more than half of decedents now get cremated, meaning nobody could know if these things were in these bodies when they died.
 
The embalmers also say they never saw these things before the roll-out of the vaccines and, to the best of their knowledge, everybody that has these was a person who was vaccinated 1 to 10 times.
 
I’m glad you agree such a scary phenomena SHOULD be investigated. The government, Science and Public Health Establishment and the “watchdog” Fourth Estate do NOT agree with you on this.
 
IMO, the “embalmers’ clots” are the great (potential) “thermo-nuclear truth bomb” waiting to detonate. It’s quite the tell 90 percent of the public has probably never even heard of these things or seen any pictures of them – and these photos and videos are easy to find in the alternative press (and at my Substack newsletter). You can also check out a Substack newsletter written by my friend Laura Kasner called “Clotastrophe” – it also has plenty of pictures and stories.

Posted by: GMST | Jul 9 2026 19:46 utc | 23

Surely time the USA had a different national anthem
— one more in keeping with its “lying shite on the hill” exceptionalism and kleptomania …..
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C12izSqB1DI

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 9 2026 19:50 utc | 24

JFK Jr. died in a plane crash in 1999.
Posted by: malenkov
good catch LOL

Posted by: Exile | Jul 9 2026 19:51 utc | 25

SARS-CoV-2 virus. 100% made in USA Pentagon biolab bioweapon (Most likely the Georgia lab). Identified and smuggled out of the Wuhan lab for weapons development by Eco Health Alliance. Smuggled out of China by the US consulate in Wuhan the developed weapon smuggled back in by the US consulate in Wuhan. Initial outbreak was a circle around the US consulate. No early case anywhere near the Wuhan virus lab.
 
As I put in a short comment in the Previous thread –
Injections for the west, wars for the rest. Epstein – “The goyim are there to serve the Jews”.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 9 2026 20:01 utc | 26

JFK Jr. died in a plane crash in 1999.
Posted by: malenkov
 
good catch LOL
 
Posted by: Exile | Jul 9 2026 19:51 utc | 25
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For those who are interested in the details of JFKjr.’s plane crash:
 
https://youtu.be/hpKXcDc6ftY?t=764
 
According to this, Jr. was a careful and cautious pilot.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 20:05 utc | 27

Trotsky’s greatest contribution to communism/socialism was the critique of bureaucracy, which was later adapted by post-Trotskyist libertarian socialists like Castoriadis and Pallis into a critique of state socialism (similarly in North America by Hal Draper, who also criticized Leninist/Trotskyist sectarianism). The idea that “world communism” would turn the state into a collector of rents is ridiculous. If communism were achieved worldwide, there would be no state to collect rents. The world would be under a global economic plan that would be formulated from the bottom up by units of self-managing workers’ councils and communes.

Posted by: fnord | Jul 9 2026 20:08 utc | 28

GMST | Jul 9 2026 17:59 utc | 10
*** I myself am confident I had Covid in January 2020, two months before the first confirmed case in my state (and thus, likely acquired natural immunity, which would explain how this non-vaccinated person never got Covid.) ***
 
Same here.  Know others pretty certain of the same.  Including nurses. 
 
Very ridiculous thing with the Pfizer/Moderna … concoction … pimped as an alleged vaccine, was that it made those who got jabbed more infectious.
 
Meanwhile, proper vaccines such as Valneva and subsequently Novavax were effectively sabotaged by those who rule (and are bought), or simply made unobtainable even now.
 

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 9 2026 20:17 utc | 29

Meanwhile, proper vaccines such as Valneva and subsequently Novavax were effectively sabotaged by those who rule (and are bought), or simply made unobtainable even now.
 
Posted by: Cynic | Jul 9 2026 20:17 utc | 29
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Tell me about those, if you would: I’ve never heard of them.
(Could “google” it but would rather hear from a hue-mon here.)
 
Are those real? did they work? what’s the story?
 
Plus there’s that Russian vaccine, forgot the name …

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 20:20 utc | 30

WRT the mRNA vaccines, I’m not convinced that they are especially more dangerous than traditional vaccines, although my personal experience was that their side effects were much more stressful than that of a typical vaccine, and that the traditional vaccines were also more effective against mutations of the virus. It is a shame that Novavax didn’t get the support that Pfizer and Moderna got. The J&J vaccine was non-mRNA and was both less effective than the mRNA shots and carried a higher risk of complications.

Posted by: fnord | Jul 9 2026 20:22 utc | 31

I had no side effects at all (from Moderna) but did get COVID, twice.
I’m older, and would say that the worse of the two times was about half as bad as the worst flu I ever had, if that.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 20:24 utc | 32

fnord | Jul 9 2026 20:22 utc | 31
 
Very large scale research was carried out in Japan over 30 million people. Excess deaths was only amongst the injected. Unvaccinated suffered no excess deaths. Death rate among those not injected remained the same as prior to injection rollout. Exceptionally noticeable when that data was set in a graph.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 9 2026 20:27 utc | 33

George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 19:13 utc | 18
 
Thanks for your reply and suggestion. I’ve heard of Deutcher’s work but have never read any of it. I see he was quite prolific in chronicling aspects of communism. It appears someone continues to renew the copyright to his works as none are downloadable at The Archive. I’ll keep him in mind the next time I go book shopping. 

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 9 2026 20:31 utc | 34

@ 32
I got triple Pfizer’d. The side effects were definitely not as bad as getting actual covid, which had me bed-ridden for days, and might have killed me if I hadn’t been vaccinated at all. It was worse on my wife, who only got one vaccine dose before she contracted it. The Novavax vaccine was similar to the vaccines developed by the Cubans, which performed better than the mRNA vaccines over time, as the virus mutated. I don’t know if the company was still around, but if I had to get another covid shot, it would be Novavax.

Posted by: fnord | Jul 9 2026 20:41 utc | 35

Thanks for your reply and suggestion. I’ve heard of Deutcher’s work but have never read any of it. I see he was quite prolific in chronicling aspects of communism. It appears someone continues to renew the copyright to his works as none are downloadable at The Archive. I’ll keep him in mind the next time I go book shopping.
 
Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 9 2026 20:31 utc | 34
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I got my 3-volume set pretty $cheap$ through https://www.bookfinder.com.
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Jeezis fucking Christ: what happened?
Now they’re all priced up in the stratosphere.
I swear I paid like $5 or less for mine, maybe 10-12 years ago. Now they’re all gold-plated.
 
Maybe you can find them in the back of some cheap bookstore. I wonder about Powell’s in Portland?

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 20:41 utc | 36

So I still wonder: what do the anti-vaxxers say we should do to protect ourselves against actual pathogenic viruses, some deadly?
 
Leaving out those answers which including shining light up one’s butt, or using Ivermectin, or using herbs and spices, or that claim there are no natural viruses that can harm us, only manufactured ones. (Sorry, all you organic nature-lovers: I too wish everything were organic and not pesticided, but no, the natural world definitely does not contain all the things we need to protect ourselves against pathogens).

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 20:47 utc | 37

‘Covid’ was a DARPA project. It was planned implemented and run by the ‘deep state’ the entire time through multiple administrations before even Trump I.

You may remember Trump giving a covid press conference in early 2020 when they began the public face of the operation.

I forget the specifics of the question-and-answer but I believe it was when Trump was asked if there will be any ‘lockdowns’ and he replied something along the lines of ‘we’ll see…we’d prefer not to do that…that would take coordination at many levels…’

And at that point Mike Pompeo, who was standing next to him as Sec of State at the time – he had been CIA Director immediately prior to this position – Pompeo says ‘actually, we’re aleady in the middle of an operation’ or something like that to which Trump replied ‘It would have been nice if you told me.’

Of course, Trump didn’t do anything else but play right along the entire time continuing to give away tidibits of what goes on inside the system here and there.

This is perfect in that it makes him come across as a real man of the people to many, thus satisfying his own personal aggrandizement and wealth and power lust as well as the keeping the embedded deep state systwm itself intact: the machine gets to keep chugging along unhindered with a faux populist at the helm.

Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jul 9 2026 21:00 utc | 38

George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 20:20 utc | 30
*** Meanwhile, proper vaccines such as Valneva and subsequently Novavax were effectively sabotaged by those who rule (and are bought), or simply made unobtainable even now. Posted by: Cynic | Jul 9 2026 20:17 utc | 29============================== Tell me about those, if you would: I’ve never heard of them. Are those real? did they work? what’s the story? ***
 
Valneva was developed by a French company at its lab in Livingston, Scotland. It was slightly behind Pfizer/Moderna and Astra-Zenica — but that was because it was carefully done.  AZ and P/M were the two initially pushed by the UK government, but the fairly conventional AZ vaccine had some serious problems and somewhat faded out.   The plug was pulled on Valneva despite their product passing the normally compulsory tests. Which left the way conveniently clear for P/M….. 
 
The admittedly “experimental” P/M did not fail any tests because it simply wasn’t tested — just awarded immunity in advance from prosecution for whatever damage it caused. It was very much pushed on the public by the UK and EU governments.
Von der Leyen is suspected to have gained a lot from its imposition.
 
In the USA, Johnson & Johnson had tried to develop a rival product, but failed.
Another US company did a bit belatedly bring out Novavax, but it was thoroughly and properly tested and as far as is known, safe.  So in the UK it is supposed to be available, having been approved for distribution by the NHS ….. except that you may ask, but simply cannot get it. 
Thus maintaining the P/M monopoly.
 *** Plus there’s that Russian vaccine, forgot the name …***
 
Devised by the Gamaleya Research Institute; appears to have been reasonably effective and safe …. the institute offered to help Astra Zenica sort theirs out (it being quite similar),  but with Russia already being demonised that offer didn’t seem to have been taken up.
 
Israel had also had developed a vaccine, which might have been good — but then Netanyahu made a deal with P/M (no doubt including a hefty reward for himself) which finished that.
 
Cuba likewise developed its own vaccine — but they’re commies so of course no matter how it worked that didn’t get imported to Britain.
 

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 9 2026 21:34 utc | 39

@GMST | Jul 9 2026 17:59 utc | 10
You are talking about Anomalous White Casts (AWC).  Dr John Campbell talks about three research papers on this topic on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEmJGuIsDkw
 

Posted by: cirsium | Jul 9 2026 21:59 utc | 40

Cynic | Jul 9 2026 21:34 utc | 39
 
I have auto immune disease. Government funding for it in the western would ended with the great American privatization of the west beginning around 1980. Most autoimmune issues are like gluten intolerance, just a matter of finding what the immune system is reacting to and remove it. No money in that for big phama. Big profits require plenty of ongoing disease so big pharma can treat symptoms with inordinately expensive snake oil.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 9 2026 23:06 utc | 41

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 9 2026 23:06 utc | 41
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If you don’t mind my asking, do you know what it is that triggers your autoimmune responses?
If so, then can you treat it by simply avoiding certain things?
 
Regarding Big Pharma, what we need would be (if only!) Little Pharma.
Something along the lines of the health-care system in Cuba, which puts patients over profits.
 
If only …

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 23:13 utc | 42

So you use a VPN to be safe?
Not searching to see if anyone posted this yet.
From a court document release; a brief excerpt
 
On May 12 last year, at 19:21 UTC, someone opened ngrok’s signup page and created the account later used to break into a US jeweller for an $8 million ransom.
Microsoft’s own logs, quoted in the federal complaint, show which machine opened that page, down to the minute. NOT the address the VPN was busy disguising. The machine itself.
That’s more or less the whole article.So you can stop reading now if you want.
The why and how, THAT is what got me all wired up today.

If you’re using a VPN, you’re supposed to be protected as your real IP isn’t known. So the FBI didn’t know it. VPN is still secure. It’s equally useless now this secret is out in the open.
So pray tell… How did they get to this guy’s name?
They called Microsoft
 
 
Read it all at Gold and Geopolitics substack page by No1 
 

Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jul 9 2026 23:21 utc | 43

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 17:44 utc | 9
 

Don’t get me wrong: I’m not saying that the whole response to the pandemic (which was not a “plandemic”) wasn’t completely fucked-up, and that Big Pharma doesn’t have a hell of a lot to answer for here, or that Fauci wasn’t lying through his teeth about gain-of-function research and all that. But the story being told by y’all that the whole thing was a gigantic plan to genetically modify the entire population, I just can’t buy that. And wasn’t it Trump himself who pushed “Operation Warp Speed”? I guess this puts me in the minority here, eh?

 
It surely was a plannedemic George, even Mike Pompeo called it a “live exercise” during a short speech in 2020, which might still be on Youtube? Even Bill Gates held an event in Washington Square in NYC during Oct. 2019 on how medical personnel should respond to a pandemic where folks were dropping in the streets.
 
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 9 2026 20:01 utc | 26
 

SARS-CoV-2 virus. 100% made in USA Pentagon biolab bioweapon (Most likely the Georgia lab). Identified and smuggled out of the Wuhan lab for weapons development by Eco Health Alliance. Smuggled out of China by the US consulate in Wuhan the developed weapon smuggled back in by the US consulate in Wuhan. Initial outbreak was a circle around the US consulate. No early case anywhere near the Wuhan virus lab.

 
I’m sure they were developing the virus in more than one american lab, but the one that got it all started was the Fort Detrick biolab in Frederick, Md., which was closed down by the Maryland health department in late July for pathogens escaping its waste system among other serious violations. Maryland intended it be shuttered permanently, because of countless violations spanning decades, but the army reopened it in the spring of 2020, citing national security concerns. 
 
The plannedemic began in earnest during June of 2019, when residents of upscale retirement communities around Washington D.C., began dying from what was then described as a ‘mysterious respiratory disease similar to pneumonia that medical people had no answers for. That news died away much like the covid patients, when they were mistreated with ventilators. During the fall the new story was a vaping disease caused by people vaping liquid vitamin E, which also died away with China’s first case in Dec. 2019, but the american army had trained some of their athletic personnel, on the grounds of Fort Detrick during the summer months, into the autumn for upcoming games in November 2019 for athletic games, similar to the olympics and held every four years in different locales, but for military personnel only. The Nov. 2019 games were held in Wuhan, China and the american athletes did uncharacteristically poorly, with some having to leave early due to serious illness. The amercan team stayed at a hotel in Wuhan called the American Hotel, which is right across the street from the wet market where China discovered their first case. All of the above can still be googled and discovered for one’s self. Nothing to hide here. 
 
 

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jul 9 2026 23:36 utc | 44

See lot of people state they got really sick by covid. My thought is it was the mRNA vaccines which caused the illness.The vaccine injects itself into cells which in turn are attacked by own immune system causing organ damage, etc. Immune systems compromised.Only organs with ability to repair themselves are the liver and skin.
Covid Vaccine Typeshttps://www.dnaweekly.com/blog/covid-19-vaccine-ultimate-guide/Pfizer and Moderna are mRNA vaccines, modify DNA.Novavax (Johnson & Johnson) and Sputnik-V are viral vector vaccines. Inject piece of covid DNA into body.Sinopharm : China
Cancer Rates / Excess Deathshttps://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-cancer-rates-by-country/#google_vignetteNote how majority of western country cancer rates have elevated. Heavy mRNA uptake in western nations.South Korean study indicating higher cancer rates among vaccinated. John CampbellCampbell was a proponent of the mRNA vaccines initially, even took, but changed his opinion after data showed harm being done.https://rumble.com/v6znule-more-cancers-after-covid-vaccines.htmlJapan study indicating excess deaths among vaccinated after covid vaccines. John Campbellhttps://rumble.com/v6xt33y-japan-proves-excess-deaths-after-cavid-vaccines.htmlhttps://thurlsthoughts.blogspot.com/search?q=Japan+Data%2C+mRNA+Vaccine%2C+Excess+Deaths%2C+Cancers%2C+T-Cells
Blood clotsThomas Haviland retired Air Force officer leading effort. Embalmers seeing blood clots not seen prior to vaccine rollout.https://thurlsthoughts.blogspot.com/search?q=Covid+mRNA+Vaccine%3A+Fibrous+Clots
Lot of reports of severe colds around Fort Detrick area prior to lockdowns. Some believe Wuhan military games as propagator.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j29cQQYzVJEhttps://web.archive.org/web/20250105161630/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/health/germs-fort-detrick-biohazard.htmlNot sure origin matters so much. A bioweapon was developed and released by the US government.Saved lot of links on covid, adverse events, and vaccines but many no longer work. Censorship?Examplehttps://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/08/11/maryland-senator-pens-letter-army-over-fort-detrick-lab-shutdown.html
IvermectinDo use ivermectin periodically. Some use for cancer prevention. 12mg twice week for prevention (maybe when vacationing), 12mg day if sick.Can get lot of generic drugs less expensively at:https://www.indiamart.com/
Go to for personal health info:https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/https://www.mercola.com/Mercola does promote some products but lot of good general health info.

Posted by: Thurl | Jul 9 2026 23:47 utc | 45

China has just as much to answer for regarding COVID and virus research (@ Wuhan) as do we, the U.S.
 
One of the things I absolutely hate about China is their unremitting attitude in this situation, which is simply to clam up and allow no information out that might damage them. Just as bad as the same shit we do here all the time..

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 23:47 utc | 46

Posted by: Thurl | Jul 9 2026 23:47 utc | 45
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Your post is much too disorganized and splattered across the page for me to even consider reading it thoroughly or clicking on any of those links. (Besides which it’ll probably get auto-deleted for having to many of them.)

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 23:50 utc | 47

George the Zeroth | Jul 9 2026 23:13 utc | 42
 
Primarily citric acid. Where only a few cereal grains contain gluten, virtually every vegetable food apart from those cereal grains contain citric acid. I can absolutely minimize it which helps a lot. Another immune tolerance I have is to several fatty acids. One of those I can delete entirely, the other minimize it to a good extent.
To delete those two entirely does require a fully synthetic nutrient mix. I have nutrient deficiencies due to both my limited diet and limited absorption of some. I have made a full and ballance mix of all six electrolytes and I have made a balanced mix of all essential minerals, but vitamins with which to create a mix is unobtainium. A full balanced mix of all essential vitamins and minerals, adjusted slightly according to those I am deficient in and I could lead a somewhat normal life.
I have found the anti inflammatory properties of quinine medicines strongly counters the effects of citric acid intolerance but that also, for me is unobtainium. Currently testing individual vitamins to see which make a noticeable difference. Found one just the other day.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 10 2026 0:03 utc | 48

Since we are swapping stories. I’ll retell mine.
 
 
I didn’t have any Covid shots or boosters or even flu shots to this day. In my mid 60’s now.
 
I think I had Covid twice.  First in early 20 was still recovering eight weeks after when it was announced and lockdown happened. Worst flu I ever had.
 
I’m not dead either! Shouldn’t I be?
 
Maybe some had saline solution?
 
When they first announced the vaccine it was supposed to be made and kept at an ultra cold temperature! I wondered how that could be possible with millions of shots in many geographies. It didn’t make sense. Then or now.
 
 
I followed the data from China daily prior to March 20 lockdown.
The theatrical camp hospitals. The death rate was 2.5% about the same as serious flu hospitalisations every year.
 
No flu that year!
 
The numbers of daily cases. Hospitalisations. Recovered daily releases. I had ons data and many other online daily papers from researchers around the world. Started with dozens per day and ended up being hundreds!
 
Here there was chaos in care homes where relatives couldn’t visit and many tragic deaths could have been avoided.  and hospital wards with people being intubated for weeks and months. Of course they don’t ever recover from that ‘treatment’.
 
Let the bodies pile high quipped clown Bozo Johnson.
 
I don’t deny that a novovirus existed.
Or even could have been created. There is enough circumstantial evidence. Fauci was given a pardon dating back to 2016! By Bidens auto pen. 4 years before!!!
 
 
I was born nvolved in randomised Covid testing during my that time and came acroos a handful of positives from hundreds of tests. 
 
These are the facts as far as I personally experienced. 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 10 2026 0:05 utc | 49

aye, myself & me | Jul 9 2026 23:36 utc | 44
 
From the documents the Russians captured in Ukraine, The Americans and Nazis were working on corona viruses there. They were likely trying to develop several of them.
The one that hit Wuhan originated from a strain that was collected from a cave in southern China, Yunan I think. A memo went out to all Eco Health Allience employees working in civilian biolabs around the world that if that ran onto a virus that muted ten times during their research on it, they were to immediately stop that research and notify head office in the US. From the we jump to the Pfizer research manage, his homosexual date with Veritas then aft a bit of booze talking about directed evolution to create new strains.
 
Mutating ten times. Forwarded on to directed evolution in pentagon and Pfizer biolabs. Exactly the same as creating a domestic plant variety with certain traits or a domestic animal with certain traits

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 10 2026 0:16 utc | 50

re Stinking pig Burnham  
 
Posted by: Laguerre | Jul 9 2026 16:54 utc | 4
 
“May not”
 
You really believe the arch blairite who failed to be annointed twice and is being ushered into No10 like a thief/assassin in the night will stop being a Zionist Israel first toady? Do you buy bridges by any chance?
 
 
Let me know when Burnham calls for an end to the continued colonial occupation apartheid entity and a restoration of an independent Palestine. He hasn’t even with his sly speech today.
 
You agree with that? right?
 
Right???
 
From the River to the Sea.
say it. 
 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 10 2026 0:20 utc | 51

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 10 2026 0:20 utc | 51
Right on! Question: must all New Labour men have the testicles removed before joining the party?

Posted by: KMRIA | Jul 10 2026 0:32 utc | 52

The Starmer/Burnham look is a little creepy to me.

Posted by: KMRIA | Jul 10 2026 0:33 utc | 53

@48 Peter

Not advice… citric acid degrades rapidly over 180° centigrade (Authors confirmed that citric acid is decomposed to citraconic anhydride through aconitic and itaconic acids by heating at 180°C for 30min) , so that requires a pressure cooker that works at 10 bar (hence the disclaimer)

Cinchona bark is sold by kg, I guess tonic doesn’t have much anymore

Posted by: Ornot | Jul 10 2026 1:07 utc | 54

 
Vaccines have always been about money and Human experimentation.
 
https://dissolvingillusions.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Dissolving-Illusions-Disease-Vaccines-and-The-Forgotten-History-FREE-Chapters-.pdf
 
 
Don’t poke a hole in your primary immune system and shoot in foreign materials unless circumstances are dire.

Posted by: GreatLakesObserver | Jul 10 2026 1:16 utc | 55

Vaccines have always been about money and Human experimentation.
 
Don’t poke a hole in your primary immune system and shoot in foreign materials unless circumstances are dire.
 
Posted by: GreatLakesObserver | Jul 10 2026 1:16 utc | 55
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So what do you think about, say, the polio vaccine?
 
I’m hoping you’d consider that situation (the possibility of contracting poliomyelitis) “dire circumstances”.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 10 2026 1:19 utc | 56

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 10 2026 0:16 utc | 50
 

From the documents the Russians captured in Ukraine, The Americans and Nazis were working on corona viruses there. They were likely trying to develop several of them.

 
Uh huh, t’was suppose to affect the Slavs only, that’s why it was roundly tested on Ukrainian soldiers and the mentally incapacitated, before the SMO started. Remember the ‘bird flu’ from the early two thousands? That one was meant to affect the Chinese more adversely than others. 

 
The one that hit Wuhan originated from a strain that was collected from a cave in southern China, Yunan I think.

 
That’s the tale we were told, but no truth to it whatsoever.
 

A memo went out to all Eco Health Allience employees working in civilian biolabs around the world that if that ran onto a virus that muted ten times during their research on it, they were to immediately stop that research and notify head office in the US. From the we jump to the Pfizer research manage, his homosexual date with Veritas then aft a bit of booze talking about directed evolution to create new strains.

 
The forgotten Ralph Baric a researcher at the UNC Chapel Hill was the one most in contact with Fauci. I believe Baric was the first one to successfully modify it for gain of function, which at the time was illegal, because O’bummer had banned such research, but when does that stop anyone in america?

 
Mutating ten times. Forwarded on to directed evolution in pentagon and Pfizer biolabs. Exactly the same as creating a domestic plant variety with certain traits or a domestic animal with certain traits

 
Did you notice Pfizer and Moderna seemed to appear out of nowhere. I believe, with no proof, that the clot shots were developed by our military and given to Pfizer and Moderna, even though every canine that ever received the shots, died, every single one. Pfizer tested ‘their’ clot shots on people, nonetheless and anyone who had an adverse reaction were thrown out of the trial and no compensation given for their catastrophic problems. That all came out in Sen. Ron Johnson’s first summit on Covid and the clot shots. 
 
I too had Covid twice. Once in early January 2020, by an ex friend who gave it to me intentionally. Felt to me like the worst ‘cold’ I’d ever had, but was seemingly over it in two weeks, except for coughing up mouthfuls of phlegm for an additional month, but came to realize it had developed into Long Covid, that lasted three years before subsiding. Then again in July 2024, but was armed with Ivermectin then and it was mostly shut down in three days and no Long Covid afterwards. I avoided the clot shots, because by the time they came out I’d already had the disease, so wrongly assumed I was immune, which proves to me that it didn’t emerge from nature. 
 

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jul 10 2026 1:30 utc | 57

Does Sars-cov-2 actually exist? Does anyone have any more recent information? 
 
https://fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois-reveal-that-health-science-institutions-around-the-world-have-no-record-of-sars-cov-2-isolation-purification/
 
 

Posted by: 9razyna | Jul 10 2026 1:35 utc | 58

I myself tend to believe that COVID is man-made, but I do have to ask:
 
Is it customary for embalmers to be informed of the vaccination status of the corpses they handle?

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 10 2026 1:35 utc | 59

‘Maybe some had saline solution?’ – DunGroanin 49

They put out different batches:

‘There’s a number of things I want to point out here.

One is the extreme level of side effects that we’re seeing: orders of magnitude worse than flu jab adverse reactions.

Just the rolling average here is looking like, I don’t know, between 100 and 200, instead of four!

We see that these are really toxic products. They really are toxic products.

That’s bad enough, but, as I argued:

If you’re a cancer sufferer, you might accept a dangerous intervention if, on balance, it could extend your life or its quality by a year or so.

But these products have been given to the general public, most of whom are perfectly well.

That’s the normal deal with the vaccine:

You’re perfectly well when you turn up at the doctor’s office, you get an injection, and you leave and you’re still perfectly well, and all that’s happened is you’ve acquired a defence against a specific pathogen.

That’s the deal.

What we shouldn’t have is that you occasionally get seriously ill and some of you die.

That’s not a good deal.

Yet that is what is happening from these products, and they’re being pushed on everyone, when – as I’ve argued – if you’re recovered, infected, you’re immune.

If you’re a child, you’re not vulnerable to the virus.

Healthy young people do not need it.

And for pregnant women we do not know that it’s safe, and we should not, on the precautionary principle, be administering it tp them.

And yet your governments are pushing these on you. it’s not a public health measure.

If it was a public health measure, the three or four things I’ve just said would be true.

It’s not a public health measure.

And bearing in mind all I said earlier about discarding normal pandemic handling plans and replacing them by absurd lies, that have had the effect of frightening people – and we think that that was the objective.

And it’s not just this extreme toxicity; it’s the variability.

Now, let’s just look at the Pfizer bumps, because there’s a nice range there.

“Nice” is the wrong word, sorry; I’m sounding like a scientist.

These are people.

These are people who’ve suffered, and some of whom have died.

But as you cast your eye across the axis at the bottom, you can see that some of the [batch] numbers there are associated with very small numbers [of adverse effects].

They’re so small, you can’t see it registering on the thickness of the Y-axis marking zero.

And yet, close to them, there are a whole bunch of batches that have got 400 to 600 serious adverse events per lot, and they’re roughly the same size.

That means it’s not the same product that’s got this Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine that it says on the box or or on the vial.

It’s not the same stuff.

It’s not the same stuff. I’m certain.

It’s not.an assessment. It’s not “maybe”…

I’m absolutely certain.

There is something called the law of mass action, which applies to all biological properties I’ve ever seen.

And if it does come to court, I will walk you through the history of that:

Why it is that shape and why this means it cannot be the case that these middle Pfizer lots are the same material as the ones immediately to the left and to the right.

These drug companies are highly professional outfits.

They know how to manufacture reproducibly, and we saw that with the flu vaccines over decades.

They know how to do it and hey haven’t done it.

I’m afraid I’ve come to the conclusion that they’re doing it on purpose,.

Because they’re so professional, and after a year they know this data.

This data is their window onto the world.

They can go into VAERS and they can filter for their own products, and their own lot and batch numbers and they can see what’s happening.

They know.

So the fact they haven’t stopped this tells me that they’re at least okay with it.

And I fear that this is deliberate.’

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/dr-mike-yeadons-key-testimony-part-iii-the-hot-lots

This is great video that shows more than anything what too much media (propaganda) without critical thought – and gaps for reflection and contemplation – does to people.

Covid: No One is Safe!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI3yU5Z2adI

Dr Peter Doshi on the basics and the complete lack of access to the clinical data:

https://odysee.com/@Dissens:e/Peter-Doshi:8

Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jul 10 2026 1:38 utc | 60

I avoided the clot shots, because by the time they came out I’d already had the disease, so wrongly assumed I was immune, which proves to me that it didn’t emerge from nature.
 
Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jul 10 2026 1:30 utc | 57
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I think that proves nothing.
 
Even if the virus was somehow synthesized, your body would still be able to produce antibodies against it.
 
Viruses are just amazing … things. Organisms? organized molecules? nano-machines?
 
Do you realize that if it weren’t for the existence of viruses, there’d be no oxygen in the atmosphere (at least not enough to support animal life)?
 
Something like almost 10% of our DNA is ancient viral DNA.
 
Then there are bacteriophages, which are viruses that attack and eat bacteria. Some of the most primitive viruses.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 10 2026 1:39 utc | 61

So what do you think about, say, the polio vaccine? I’m hoping you’d consider that situation (the possibility of contracting poliomyelitis) “dire circumstances”.
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 10 2026 1:19 utc | 56
 
 
There is a chapter on polio. It’s been a long time since I read that book but if I remember right, polio is not anywhere near as dangerous as we’ve been led to believe (a fraud like almost everything else), and for some reason polio disappeared when DDT usage disappeared. Pretty strange.
 
Here’s the whole book. Scroll down and click on the red ‘PDF’ icon. It will guilt you a little for money while the book loads:
 
https://oceanofpdf.com/authors/suzanne-humphries/pdf-epub-dissolving-illusions-download/
 
“12. The “Disappearance” of Polio
 
The polio story is a haunting one: long, complicated, and ugly. It’s not a story you will have read or that the medical profession will be able to tell. Beyond the smoke and mirrors lie sketchy statistics, renaming of diseases, and vaccine-induced paralytic polio caused by both the Salk,{354},{355} and the Sabin vaccines. Dr. Albert Sabin’s oral polio vaccine (OPV) continues to cause paralysis in vaccine recipients today.{356},{357}
 
Despite many well-documented historical problems, polio and smallpox vaccines serve as the anchor for vaccination faith today. The subject stirs passion in those who believe their ancestors were affected by the dreaded virus or their children could be crippled by it today.
 
Many believe that a disease called polio has been eradicated in the Western hemisphere. Most everyone thinks that polio was eliminated by vaccination. But to fully understand where polio went, one must understand what polio was. Then, it becomes clear that it is impossible to eradicate it with a vaccine. However, the vaccine did lend itself to many well-documented—although not well-known— problems.”

Posted by: GreatLakesObserver | Jul 10 2026 1:41 utc | 62

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jul 10 2026 1:30 utc | 57
States of Emergency – Kees van der Pijl
A very good read.

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 10 2026 1:43 utc | 63

i see someone brought a few red flags into moa and waved them in front of the bulls, lol…  covid and communism gets the juices flowing in some it seems.

Posted by: james | Jul 10 2026 1:44 utc | 64

i see someone brought a few red flags into moa and waved them in front of the bulls, lol…  covid and communism gets the juices flowing in some it seems.
 
Posted by: james | Jul 10 2026 1:44 utc | 64
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Yeah, kind of like the infamous “dog whistles” but in reverse, eh?
 
The bar has what you might call a “diverse population”, no?
 
That’s a good thing, BTW. Not an echo chamber.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 10 2026 1:47 utc | 65

@26 Peter previous open thread (only just managed to catch up with).

Gardens full of cane toads.

“When about 15, me and a mate decided to go bird watching one day. That was in Perth…”

At our beach it was watersports. Sven (swedish) and Ken (oz) were the first to set up for tourists, placed an old shipping container on the shore and a cane shade, rented out windsurfers and canoes.

Sven was a quiet person, Ken was stocky and well built, sort of walked around as ‘a single unit’, talked in a way to keep the flies out, was like he’d just been released from military service. Both decent people, but we could wind up Ken and so we did…all in a friendly but mischievous way, and he would, after any surprise, play the part.

I can’t remember what reason exactly for, but I remember being picked up and carried under one arm by him down to the water, and having my head dunked forcefully in the sea several times.

Posted by: Ornot | Jul 10 2026 1:52 utc | 66

Just like vaccines, statins are another profit poison most folks don’t even think about.
 
“Statins are widely prescribed to lower blood cholesterol levels and claim to offer unparalleled protection against heart disease. Believed to be completely safe and capable of preventing a whole series of other conditions, they are the most profitable drug in the history of medicine. In this groundbreaking book, GP Malcolm Kendrick exposes the truth behind the hype. He will change the way we think about cholesterol forever. Rubbishing the diet-heart hypothesis, in which clinical trials ‘prove’ that high cholesterol causes heart disease and a high-fat diet leads to heart disease, Kendrick lambastes a powerful pharmaceutical industry and unquestioning medical profession, who, he claims, perpetuate the madcap concepts of ‘good’ and ‘bad’ cholesterol and cholesterol levels to convince millions of people to unnecessarily spend billions of pounds on statins.”
 
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1016105.The_Great_Cholesterol_Con
 
 
Full book:
 
https://oceanofpdf.com/authors/malcolm-kendrick/pdf-the-great-cholesterol-con-the-truth-about-what-really-causes-heart-disease-and-how-to-avoid-it-download/
 
 
The ‘unquestioning medical profession’ is basically inside sales for the Human experimentation sector.

Posted by: GreatLakesObserver | Jul 10 2026 2:06 utc | 67

I’ve now viewed and highly suggest the hour needed to watch the Radika Desai/Warwick Powell chat that’s dense with geoeconomic and geopolitical information and data. 

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 10 2026 2:11 utc | 68

Ornot | Jul 10 2026 1:52 utc | 66
 
Sounds like you got a bit too cheeky. 🙂
 
The bloke my brother worked for was a bit rough. Employed blokes out of jail and some lying thieving scum off the street at times. His son in law seemed decent enough to talk but turned out to be a lying thieving piece of shit. Anyway, he was tanked on drugs one day at his place and started threatening everyone with a knife. His father in law came over, kicked the door in and ignoring the knife give him a left and right. When the clown woke up he must have quietened down a bit. 
 
When he was telling me about, he said “I got a bit cheeky”.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 10 2026 2:16 utc | 69

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 10 2026 1:35 utc | 59
 

I myself tend to believe that COVID is man-made, but I do have to ask: Is it customary for embalmers to be informed of the vaccination status of the corpses they handle?

 
I’ve watched videos from back then of embalmers who couldn’t inject their embalming fluid. Poking around they found long stringy clots in the deceased’s veins. Some more than a foot long. Clots like anyone in medical science, or embalming had ever seen, before the clot shots arrived. 

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jul 10 2026 2:19 utc | 70

Posted by: GreatLakesObserver | Jul 10 2026 1:41 utc | 62
 
Even if you read the NIH information carefully, it is clear that the disease is rare and not as dangerous as it used to be, thanks to improved hygiene, and that most cases of polio are caused by polio vaccines.
 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK558944/
 
 
 
 

Posted by: 9razyna | Jul 10 2026 2:22 utc | 71

The  Chinese certainly reacted as if they were under a Bio-weapon attsck. 
 
 

Posted by: Exile | Jul 10 2026 2:33 utc | 72

When sarscov2 was released, we were already completely excluded from society. Being rural, everything just became much quieter for a while.

Messed with some plans …autumn before told those close who said about their next year ideas, that no-one would be going anywhere. I didn’t mean to impose that, it was to say that their ideas didn’t have the meaning implied (?).

The rest was watching on media civilisation inflicting itself.

Apart from hygiene (the virus is real), the realisation was that the main fear going around was of authority – something because of our circumstance we could pass on and be thankful for being able to.

Just a very weird turn of events, people locking themselves in small appartments for months on end etc., disruptions and body counts, plus the vaccine promotion and testing.

I think many do not want to think about it all, that it shows up their dependence and weaknesses.

Sweden set the right example I think, except for not isolating the most vulnerable early enough.

Posted by: Ornot | Jul 10 2026 2:40 utc | 73

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 10 2026 1:39 utc | 61
 

I think that proves nothing.

 
I completely agree, but once you’ve felt Covid you’re unlikely to forget it and what I got the second time was exactly the same, except perhaps worse. I thank my lucky stars I had Ivermectin on hand tho.

 Even if the virus was somehow synthesized, your body would still be able to produce antibodies against it.

 
Didn’t happen for me, because it was worse than the first episode. My antibodies were apparently on vacation?

 Viruses are just amazing … things. Organisms? organized molecules? nano-machines?

 
Sheer speculation here, George, but did you hear about the nano-bots and graphene that were in the clot shots? I had read a sci/fi book written in 2005 about humans who could fly with no wings, or anything else attached and they could live forever, with no fear of ever catching any disease, because of nano-bots inside them could ward off disease through a perfected AI. They called themselves Trans Human and there were Purists within the society that wanted to remain human and continue the life cycle with deaths and rebirths during the intervals. Each called the other an abomination. Story was forgettable, but the author ended it with the warning that within twenty to twenty five years we would see the first testings to try and make Trans Humanism a reality. Again got no proof whatsoever, but sure got me wondering if that wasn’t what the clot shots were actually for, especially since they were secretly developed by our military?

 
 Do you realize that if it weren’t for the existence of viruses, there’d be no oxygen in the atmosphere (at least not enough to support animal life)?

 
We have millions of viruses inside us at any given time. The vast majority of them are good viruses, which keep us alive, just like the good bacteria does. Most of the bad ones are discovered and eradicated by our immune systems, before they can cause damage.

 Something like almost 10% of our DNA is ancient viral DNA. Then there are bacteriophages, which are viruses that attack and eat bacteria. Some of the most primitive viruses.

 
I believe the bacteriophages are what can cause polio, whether you’ve had their vaccine, or not? I know they can cause measles, which is found in certain soils and again contracting it that way matters not whether you’ve been vaccinated for it, or not. However, having had it once our immune system can likely kick in and ward it off, but because it’s born from certain soils eradicating measles completely is an impossibility. The unvaccinated causing measles pandemics is more propaganda. 

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jul 10 2026 2:54 utc | 74

‘The Chinese certainly reacted as if they were under a Bio-weapon attsck. ‘

That silly theater with guys in full body space suits with huge aerosol guns spraying lord knows what randomly around in the air.

The Chinese public were pissed at the creepy authoritarian lockdowns but there was little they could do about it.

Here’s an interesting video from Oct 2024 in which Sagaar of ‘Breaking Points’ breaks down Xi’s complete takeover for the world to see.

I don’t include it here for that; rather, please note that ‘covid’ is still going on in fact Sagaar mentions that the ‘handlers’ have masks on due to China’s ‘zero covid’ policy.

But please note that the most important people ‘at the table’ inclduing Xi himself have no masks on!

Xi was pushing 70 years of age then and many of these men are even older.

Yet no masks for them despite the ‘Zero Covid’ policy.

So either they have an antidote or they know something we don’t.

I would suggest the whole thing is a global scam and China and Russia are in on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwrRpAh8vVQ

Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jul 10 2026 2:57 utc | 75

Following on  my no. 4, in response to Dungroanin, evidence has already emerged today that Burnham is splitting from Starmer over Israel.
 

The prime-minister-in-waiting issued a video on social media in which he dramatically apologised for Labour’s response to the conflict in Gaza, and admitted that the government had been too slow in calling for a ceasefire.

 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/andy-burnham-gaza-israel-labour-middle-east-conflict-b3012156.html

Posted by: Laguerre | Jul 10 2026 2:57 utc | 76

Posted by: james | Jul 10 2026 1:44 utc | 64
 

i see someone brought a few red flags into moa and waved them in front of the bulls, lol…  covid and communism gets the juices flowing in some it seems.

 
I think you’ve gotta be aware of how long ago I began posting here, james and how little I do anymore? I’m here daily, to learn from others, but when a subject arises that I have knowledge about I like to spout what I’ve already learned.  Educating people about Covid definitely gets my juices flowing, communism not so much. 
 
Besides George the Zeroth taught me how to use the Blockquote correctly, so writing replies got a lot easier. Thanks again, George!

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jul 10 2026 3:07 utc | 77

Agonizing Reappraisal | Jul 10 2026 2:57 utc | 75
 
It was designed to target Chinese. Perhaps DNA to an extent but certainly the elderly. When it run through oldies homes here, they died like flies. China due to the one child policy has an aging population. It also has very high density populations.
Those initial outbreaks, China, Italy, Iran, it was mostly the elderly that died. Serious cases amongst younger people were rare.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 10 2026 3:10 utc | 78

@ aye, myself & me | Jul 10 2026 2:19 utc | 70
 
That’s at least a remarkable coincidence, but without a paper trail one could just as easily pin the blame for the blood clots on COVID itself.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 10 2026 3:14 utc | 79

I posted the comment below over on the Iran thread because the Pepe link but it fits better here
 
 
Pepe Escobar has a posting up at Strategic Culture 
How Khamenei’s last act is defeating NATOstan 
What I want to focus on is the end of his piece 
 

And then of course there’s China – which supported the nearly flatlined MoU from the beginning, and now recognizes why Tehran could not care less anymore.While no one was watching, Beijing expanded their yuan liquidity pool to $500 billion (doubled Bond Connect quotas); launched a gold clearing hub in Hong Kong; and announced yuan-denominated gold futures.The Bank of China clearly sees how global yuan demand is expanding beyond trade into “investment, financing, pricing” and, crucially,” reserve holdings.” Translation: accelerated de-dollarization. Barbaria better be set for a rude awakening.

 
What Pepe didn’t detail about what China introduced is (from ZH)
 

The RMB introduced new electronic bond and foreign-exchange trading platforms

 
If there really is going to be a shift away from the US dollar then the foreign exchange institution and process needs to change from the existing FX structure 
 

The foreign exchange (FX) market is the world’s largest and most liquid financial sector, seeing an average daily trading volume of roughly $9.6 trillion. As a decentralized, over-the-counter (OTC) network, it allows governments, international banks, corporations, and retail traders to exchange national currencies to facilitate global trade, hedge risk, or speculate on macroeconomic shifts.

 
 If oil from Iran is going to be sold in Yuan then it needs to go through an exchange structure/process other than the highly manipulated by private parties current FX world. 
The alternative architecture to the BIS/SWIFT and FX markets with the added reconnection to intrinsic value money is the China contribution to our civilization war, IMO…..I am looking forward to China stating clearly how it can process oil in Yuan sale for Iran.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 10 2026 3:15 utc | 80

Is the test for ‘covid’ even accurate?

What does the inventor of the PCR process have to say about the vast chasm between PCR as a general macro-level tool of science versus how it is (mis)used for ‘practical’ commercial applications?

[this is specific to ‘hiv-aids’ but applies across the board and is very important]

https://odysee.com/@devrijeomroep:6/kary-mullis-on-pcr-testing:e

Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jul 10 2026 3:17 utc | 81

malenkov | Jul 10 2026 3:14 utc | 79
 
Non covid excess deaths are the big one. I mentioned the very large data that was put together in Japan. 30 million people. Unvaccinated showed no excess deaths. Excess deaths amongst the vaccinated was very high.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 10 2026 3:20 utc | 82

@76 Laguerre

You would excuse the cynical view that this occurred after a ceasefire had been agreed, after the main part of the slaughter and destruction had been enacted ?

Where was his dramatic statement as the government went along with it all ?

We don’t get to forgive ourselves like that.

Like the french, he will involve UK ‘to make ammends’.

Very peverse, knowing the Palestinians will be accepting the ‘help’ they are able to find after what has occurred.

Posted by: Ornot | Jul 10 2026 3:22 utc | 83

‘China, Italy, Iran, it was mostly the elderly that died. Serious cases amongst younger people were rare.’

I have to take your word for it Peter.

They played up Italy here early on and it paralleled what they were saying here which was a lie vis-a-vis the virus.

They kept showing the same hopsital in Bergen county and Middlesex county here in the state of New Jersey in the US.

I was in the ‘epicenter’ here in the US.

And yes, some hospitals were full and people died but it seems that is due to the cocktail of drugs that came down from on high as treatment recommendations.

As was mentioned above none of the fields and airport hangars and all the other shit they set up and advertised the fuck out of were ever used let alone near capacity themselves as was fearmongered.

People here really started dropping dead and coming down with all manner of weird heretofore unseen diseases and rapid-onset cancers and all manner of just shit I’ve never seen before…this all started happening in earnest once the shots were introduced.

Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jul 10 2026 3:31 utc | 84

Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jul 10 2026 2:57 utc | 75

 

I don’t include it here for that; rather, please note that ‘covid’ is still going on in fact Sagaar mentions that the ‘handlers’ have masks on due to China’s ‘zero covid’ policy.
But please note that the most important people ‘at the table’ inclduing Xi himself have no masks on!
Xi was pushing 70 years of age then and many of these men are even older.
Yet no masks for them despite the ‘Zero Covid’ policy.
So either they have an antidote or they know something we don’t.

 
They know N, or K95 masks can’t stop any virus from readily passing through those masks unhindered. One needs a much stronger mask, usually an inch, or two thick to stop viruses. I know, because I had to buy those kinds of masks when I did insurance adjusting on usually abandoned properties that had flooded basements, which I had to examine after the water had been drained. Mold was extremely thick and I needed a mask that would keep it out, because I needed to take photographic evidence and exacting measurements to write up estimates for repairing the structures. That took considerable time and multiple trips, because of having to towel off often to remove excessive sweat. 
 
Covid wasn’t caught from airborne much anyway, unless a victim was blowing it in your face. I think most folks caught it the old fashioned way, by victims touching something and leaving the virus behind and someone else touching the same, sometime later and later still they touched their nose, or wiped their eyes. 
 
                    would suggest the whole thing is a global scam and China and Russia are in on it.
 
Nonsense, you need to look at the statistics of how many Chinese, or Russians died from the disease compared to america. Both China and Russia proved during Covid that they were putting their people first, trying desperately to find a remedy. 
 
 
 

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jul 10 2026 3:33 utc | 85

Another link for Sebgo, on Burkina Faso establishing ties with “Israel” , not sure where the slant is, bound to be one…

https://www.agcnews.eu/burkina-faso-linsediamento-dellambasciatore-seroussi-apre-la-nuova-porta-di-accesso-di-israele-nel-sahel/

Posted by: Ornot | Jul 10 2026 3:43 utc | 86

why the lab leak theory is almost certainly false. 
 
https://www.unz.com/runz/why-the-lab-leak-theory-is-almost-certainly-false/

Posted by: Exile | Jul 10 2026 3:46 utc | 87

Agonizing Reappraisal | Jul 10 2026 3:31 utc | 84
 
In the west although it was a very real virus, it was also a political disease. It was massively pumped in the west by politicians and media. Trump’s China virus. Used as a propaganda weapon against China.
 
In Italy, the worst of it was in one region. The Po valley area I think. There it had spread before anyone knew much about it. Iran many in government and other official positions died or were severely ill. I never bothered with any vaccine and as far as I know, never got it, even the last O strain that was quite mild compared to the other strains and did the rounds here after the political quarantines had been lifted.
Far enough quarantining an outbreak until it is under control, but the quarantines here at state borders was absolute madness – political medicine not scientific medicine.
 
 

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 10 2026 3:46 utc | 88

‘Nonsense, you need to look at the statistics of how many Chinese, or Russians died from the disease compared to america’

AS I have stated. I do not believe in the ‘covid disease’ and the deaths and mass sickness that continue in the US are clearly related to the shots and, before that, essentially a death protocol of drugs which many many doctors – including those who would entirely disagree with me on the non-existence of covid – these doctors nevertheless were loudly complaining about all the ridiculous treatment protocols handed down.

So the alleged far fewer deaths in those countries – and who among us believes these numbers anywhere? – but if that be true, and I take it at face value that it is, that nevertheless does not in any way deny this thesis.

Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jul 10 2026 3:53 utc | 89

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 10 2026 3:14 utc | 79
 

That’s at least a remarkable coincidence, but without a paper trail one could just as easily pin the blame for the blood clots on COVID itself.

 
There is a paper trail malenkov, amongst the doctors at FLCCC and various doctors that participated in Sen. Ron Johnson’s various summits on Covid. The clots were borne from the shots, not Covid. I read in the obits all the time of middle aged folks dying suddenly and although that did occur, before Covid, or the shots, it still makes me wonder? Not enough autopsies being performed to know one way, or the other, eh?

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jul 10 2026 3:57 utc | 90

‘It was designed to target Chinese. Perhaps DNA to an extent but certainly the elderly.’

Strange virus.

So they targeted ‘Chinese DNA’ but it also targets Iranian leadership and also elderly Italians in a specific province or two?

What is ‘Chinese DNA’ exactly?

Han?

Here again is Dr Mullis (and others), again on ‘hiv’ but very important for larger understanding…gets to the heart of what we are discussing right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pplKEZdnOvw

Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jul 10 2026 4:14 utc | 91

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jul 10 2026 3:57 utc | 90
Dude, I have like five people I know with cancer.  I fully attribute it to the jab.
Thank Jah, me and mine were able to avoid it.  I am freelance, etc.  FTW btw.
“They” could care less for us. ((( )))
((( )))
FTW SFNS – yeah
‘rona

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 10 2026 4:15 utc | 92

Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jul 10 2026 3:53 utc | 89
 
Your thesis that Covid didn’t exist is borne from what data? Do you believe the common cold and various flues are also fake?
 
I never take the yearly flue shot, because firstly they can only cover one strain amongst dozens, that are usually around at any given time, but more importantly secondly, because the preservative they use is Thimerosal (organomercury compound), which they claim is used in such small dose that the mercury can do no harm, which I believe is true. However, what’s left unsaid is once mercury gets in, it, like the Hotel California, never leaves, so taking it yearly is asking for an overdose of mercury eventually, which can affect our bodies in numerous ways, causing numerous maladies, which is what we’re tagged with when we die, not the mercury poisoning.  

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jul 10 2026 4:15 utc | 93

Yeah, mercury.
 
I have never understood why mercury, which we know from long experience is extremely toxic (and results in things like childhood retardation) can be considered safe when used in dental amalgam (combined with other metals).
 
That just make zero sense to me, and I’ve always requested composite fillings rather than amalgam since I learned what that shit consisted of.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 10 2026 4:20 utc | 94

Was Erdo trying to tell them something…?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F0vTc4h68Y
 
“Guns & ammo for NATO leaders? Erdogan stuns alliance with revolvers as parting gifts after summit.”
 
What a perfect gift for these 2026 NATO gangsters, gun-runners, grifters and genocidaires off to make war on the world…
 
How apt. (hollow laugh)
 
 
 

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jul 10 2026 4:24 utc | 95

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jul 10 2026 4:20 utc | 95
For the jukebox.
Graham Parker – Mercury Poisoning
I kinda remember playing with broken thermometers,  I think.  Maybe.
 

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 10 2026 4:26 utc | 96

‘Your thesis that Covid didn’t exist is borne from what data?’

I don’t live my life based on their data.

‘Do you believe the common cold and various flues are also fake?’

The symptoms we experience are very real.

I am still learning the reasons why.

I believe in general ‘pathogens’ and bacteria.

I do not believe that if we just keep our ‘inner terrain’ healthy that we can necessarily avoid sickness (dis-ease) at all times although I believe there is a hell of a lot to that.

Vaccines actually operate to some degree on the same underlying premise as the older homeopathic ideas and their predecessors but the latter are ‘natural’ and don’t require a needle and toxic adjuvuncts.

Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jul 10 2026 4:37 utc | 97

Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jul 10 2026 3:17 utc | 81
 

Is the test for ‘covid’ even accurate?

 
Nope, because it wasn’t designed to identify a specific virus. Dr. Kary Mullis expressed that opinion many times, before his mysterious death in 2019, just before america introduced their PCR test. Quite a coincidence, huh?

What does the inventor of the PCR process have to say about the vast chasm between PCR as a general macro-level tool of science versus how it is (mis)used for ‘practical’ commercial applications?
[this is specific to ‘hiv-aids’ but applies across the board and is very important]

 
I agree A.R., that info is quite important in understanding all the propaganda that went down, over their plannedemic. 

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jul 10 2026 4:39 utc | 98

re: 96. 
 
And perhaps, if all their evil plans go south, and there’s nowhere to run or hide, a more than suitable and effective means of ending it all by putting the barrel in their mouth and blowing themselves to hell.
 
 

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jul 10 2026 4:40 utc | 99

How the Guardian Sells Imperialism to Progressives
 
https://www.unz.com/article/how-the-guardian-sells-imperialism-to-progressives/

Posted by: exile | Jul 10 2026 4:42 utc | 100