Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
June 27, 2026
War On Iran: – New Clash Over Strait Passage – Lebanon’s Capitulation Ignites New Civil War

the last days there were two developments in Lebanon and Iran that will likely cause the war to reignite into a much larger conflagration.

Iran insists on having control over the Strait of Hormuz. But at least half of the passage way is under Oman’s jurisdiction.

Oman is, unlike Iran, a member of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea and has as such a different view of the international law with regards to the Strait situation. Oman is also a (former) UK/U.S. dependent. Iran’s attempts to pull the traditionally neutral Oman onto its side of the conflict have failed.

On Thursday the UN’s International Maritime Organization (IMO) had arranged for a convoy of ships that had been stuck in the Persian Gulf for weeks to sail through the Strait right next to the coast of Oman. Iran saw this (falsely) as a breach of the Memorandum of Understanding with the U.S. and (correctly) as an attempt to undermine its leverage:

Oman, in conjunction with the UN International Maritime Organization, has opened up a corridor for the purpose of evacuating ships from the Gulf. However, it is not hard to imagine that having regularized one-way traffic on the Oman side, that it would not soon become two-way traffic, vitiating Iran control of the Strait of Hormuz. And we have pointed out that with the southern side of the Strait being Oman territorial waters, if Iran interferes with ship transits there, its presumed legal argument would look an awful lot like what Israel has been hawking in its invasion of Lebanon, that it can run roughshod over Omani sovereignity out of a not-credible claim of a security risk.

Iran’s response to the challenge was a (harmless) drone attack on a container ship under the flag of Singapore which had used the IMO organized convoy to slip out of the Persian Gulf on its own. As the head of IMO announced during a press conference:

I have been informed of an attack today in the Gulf of Oman on a vessel which passed through the Strait of Hormuz. This vessel did not transit under IMO’s evacuation framework. I have always reiterated that the safety of the seafarers remains paramount. Therefore, to ensure a coordinated approach and navigational safety, the evacuation plan will be paused until further clarity is obtained. …”

No one got hurt in the drone attack. There was only minor damage to the ship.

The U.S. however used the incident, in which it was formerly not involved, to escalate the situation. Several U.S. airplanes launched stand-off missile attacks on Iranian radar installations near Sirik, a port city in southern Iran, near Hormuz.

Last night Iran announced that it had hit back:

The Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Navy has struck American military targets in the region in retaliation for earlier aggression against Iranian coastal areas.

The force made the remarks in a statement issued on Friday, saying its reprisal “targeted the deployment sites of the US terrorist military in the region.”

It noted that the retaliation came after American forces launched airstrikes against areas lying along the Iranian coastline as part of the United States’ changeless “pattern of breaching its commitments.”

Waging the aggression, Washington used “various pretexts, including the passage of a non-compliant vessel through an unauthorized route in the Strait of Hormuz,” the statement added.

It is not yet know which U.S. military sites the Iranian’s have been hit or what kind of damage the strike might have caused.

If the damage was small the U.S. may for now (again) stop the tit-for-tat. The situation could, for a moment, go quite again.

The development in Lebanon however points to its rather rapid re-escalation.

A abbreviated bit of background: After the Nakba and the loss of the 1968 Arab war against Israel many Palestinians had fled to Lebanon. This changed the demography of the previously majority Christian country. Lebanon slipped into a civil war between the various factions of the Christian, Druse, Sunni and Shia Muslim population.

The Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) set up shop. It used the south of Lebanon for attacks on Israel. In 1983 Israel invaded Lebanon and occupied Beirut. Its aim was to defeat and expel the PLO but it soon ended up being hated by most parties of the multi-confessional Lebanese population. The deprived Shia, which had a large majority in the south, soon turned from being Israel friendly into its worst enemies.

The U.S. intervened and deployed ‘peacekeepers’ which took the side of the Maronite Christians. Suicide explosions hit the barracks of the U.S., French and other ‘peacekeepers’. The U.S. retreated. Israel installed its own proxy forces which lost against the growing Shia resistance. Only in the year 2000, under high pressure from the Shia resistance, did Israel leave its positions in south Lebanon.

The civil war died down. Political power was split which each domination getting a part. The Christian faction, which had shrunk significantly due to emigration, kept its dominant positions while the Shia, which are now the majority, were left under-represented.

In recent years a minor quarrel between the Shia Amal faction and the Iran allied Shia Hizbullah had allowed for the formation of an unrepresentative government under the former General Joseph Aoun, a Maronite Christian.

In conjunction with the war on Iran Israel re-invaded south Lebanon. While Iran, through the MoU, set the retreat of Israel from Lebanon as a condition for reopening the Strait of Hormuz, the Lebanese government, under the pressure of U.S. sanctions, insisted on finding its own solution by selling out to the U.S. and Israel.

Yesterday it signed a Tripartite Agreement with the U.S. and Israel which will allow Israel to keep control over south Lebanon including over some 60 townships which it had cleansed of their Shia population. The agreement commits the Lebanese government to disarm Hizbullah, which it can not do, while allowing Israel to stay indefinitely.

For a deeper analysis of the agreement (and its illegality under Lebanese law) see here, here and especially here:

Lebanon is not a place where external powers can easily impose a security architecture against a major domestic constituency. It was not possible in 1983. It is not possible today.

The May 17 [1983] Agreement was buried because it lacked legitimacy, because it was tied to occupation, and because those expected to accept it had the capacity to reject it. The Washington framework may not be identical, but it carries the same weakness. It depends on Hezbollah’s disarmament without Hezbollah’s consent. It depends on Lebanese army enforcement without Lebanese political consensus. It depends on American mediation despite American partiality. It depends on Israeli withdrawal while giving Israel the authority to delay withdrawal.

That is not a peace process. It is a controlled crisis.

It is even more than that. Israel’s clear intention here is to reignite a Lebanese civil war and may well succeed.

Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai – 8:54 UTC · Jun 27, 2026

The Lebanese resistance will not accept the long-term presence of Israeli occupation forces in the occupied south of Lebanon. Its response, whenever it comes, will underline the crisis of legitimacy created by President Joseph Aoun’s decision to remove the state of animosity with Israel, a power he does not possess, and to accept a so-called “buffer zone” that prevents the inhabitants of nearly 60 villages from returning to their homes.

The agreement about Lebanon will lead to replay of the 1980s situation. Like in 1983 this will be another brutal but fruitless attempt to sort out the conflict against the will of the population. A civil war will ensue, a U.S. military intervention will follow. It will be defeated by Hizbullah and end, maybe years from now, in an Israeli retreat.

U.S. and Israeli observers acknowledge that the agreement will likely lead to more war not only in Lebanon but in the wider Middle East region:

This is literally the opposite of peace. …

By interjecting this agreement now, literally in the midst of trying to negotiate an end to the American war with Iran, in the midst of a 60 day ceasefire with Iran — which, if successful, would end the fighting in Lebanon — we take action with these signatures in Washington today that makes it nearly impossible to maintain the cease-fire and reach a final settlement, and therefore makes war more likely.

While restarting the civil war in Lebanon and re-intensifying, via the U.S., the war on Iran, Israel is already setting its sight onto the next target:

Israel’s Minister of Science and Technology Gila Gamliel:

“Once we move beyond the Iranian regime, there is the Ottoman Empire’s ambition, which will seek to expand and spread its influence.

There is no doubt that Türkiye, with its ambitions to expand beyond its borders and to lead the region according to its own vision, poses a real future threat to the citizens of the State of Israel.

Israel always prepares for every threat, and there is no doubt that Türkiye is becoming a front that could indeed become a threat in the future.”

To which the Sunni NATO member Turkey responds by subtly honoring Shia theology:

Erdogan this week:

“I commemorate the Kerbela martyrs with mercy and respect. We have been experiencing the sorrow of the martyrdom of our master Husayn ibn Ali and his companions just as it was on that day for a full 14 centuries.”

Don’t be surprised when future news items report of Hizbullah logistics running through Turkey …

Comments

4q8 106
Ornot 186

The problem is that when all is said and done China and Russia STILL defer to the structure of the UN where the US, UK, and France can veto anything.

I would like to see Francesca Albanese criticize the UN for its glacially slow pace amd frankly for its ultimate lack of any authority as a body to do anything – again, given the way it is stuctured.

Given the iron law of institutions, I won’t hold my breath waiting for Albanese.

Interestingly, her husband is a ‘World Bank’ official who despite being demoted nevertheless maintains a position within this extraordinarily powerfil ‘global’ institution that is in fact utterly ‘western’ in nature and make-up.

Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jun 28 2026 4:10 utc | 201

There should be a UN rule that any countries with arrears shall have voting rights suspended until arrears fully paid.

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 28 2026 4:26 utc | 202

OT! South Korea team eliminated from World Cup. Fans call for throwing eggs at them!

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/xbcIrfgwlayUvwpoHz9jgw

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 28 2026 4:32 utc | 203

psychohistorian 202
 
Answering for a friend,  possibly because Israel isn’t a signatory to the MOU.
 
Sooty and Sweep are controlled by the ventriloquist, the UK. 
I notice  Prunella Scales can’t create a  gender , but uses one of the two that God created.
 
Sooty is the US , a genocidal, argumentative,  lawless dog with long ears while Sweep is  a more rational,  imaginative and witty bitch  with long ears, who always wins the argument.
 
The UK created Sooty, America , to be a projection of its own genocidal aggressiveness, and it created Iran, Sweep, to always show up Sooty’s stupidity.
 
Khomeini was a  Sikh living in India, and Sikhs were themselves a creation of the British Raj,  a fake religion,  part Hindu, part Islam, warlike and tenacious.
 
This war has already become a Soap.
Its purpose appears to be to create the conditions for WEF neofeudalism, in which we own nothing , and are happy.

Posted by: Giyane | Jun 28 2026 4:34 utc | 204

 
https://t.me/me_observer_TG/1021450#
Middle East Observer 
 
⚡️ Iran: Iranian Foreign Ministry: Tehran strongly condemns the American aggression on a number of monitoring and reconnaissance facilities on the southern coast of the country at dawn today. 
 
Iranian Foreign Ministry: Tehran considers these brutal attacks a violation of the United Nations Charter and a clear violation of Article 1 of the Memorandum of Understanding 
 
Iranian Foreign Ministry: Tehran affirms its determination to defend Iran’s sovereignty and territorial integrity against US military aggression
 
https://t.me/me_observer_TG/1021451# 
Iranian Foreign Ministry: The United States does not attach the slightest importance or credibility to its commitments, and breaking promises is an integral part of the nature of its system
 
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https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/2071074292771471750
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺  @ejmalrai 
 
CENTCOM has confirmed that US Navy and Air Force fighter jets struck ten Iranian military targets in and near the Strait of Hormuz, claiming retaliation for Iran’s drone attack on the M/T Kiku. This strikes at the heart of the MOU. It undermines paragraph 1 on the end of hostilities. 
 
Washington will argue self-defence and claim Iran violated the rules first by attacking shipping. Tehran will argue that the United States has resumed direct military action and militarised the very corridor the MOU was designed to stabilise.
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 28 2026 5:00 utc | 205

I still maintain my primary research question related to the paradigm change that settled agriculture had on human cultures, which IMO caused them to be destabilized in a manner that remains to this day.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 28 2026 3:52 utc | 204
 
Interesting, if as commonly theorized that agriculture began in the land between the Tigris and Euphrates, it appeared this mode of survival and adaptation to the environment was successful for a nascent period in time, before the common era.  Which fortunately had enough time to be passed on to following generations and perhaps through cultural diffusion, spread to the greater region.  This was cut short by the Hittites and their chariots, who slaughtered the peaceful farmers.  It seems like we are going full circle back to the same geographic region.  Not much has changed since, wars and rumors of wars…cycles of history.  Such is the human condition.
 
@surferkeret  Please, by all means, continue to grind on your axe.  You are tedious and one dimensional.  Like a broken record.  Read the Baghavad Gita.

Posted by: Harmonic Resonance | Jun 28 2026 5:13 utc | 206

Stay On Fucking Topic!!!!
Stop Personal Attacks and Insults, Wankers!! (lmao)
 
 
see the photo at the first link
 
 
 
https://x.com/sahouraxo/status/2070866891287994473
sarah  @sahourax 
 
Israel is burning the forest in Markaba, South Lebanon. 
Israel isn’t only committing genocide in Lebanon — it is also deliberately wiping out ecosystems, wildlife and forests.
This is ecocide.
 
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https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/2070454162035245315
Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt  @FranceskAlbs 
 
It is powerful to see other arbitrarily sanctioned legal professionals acting against this outright persecution and full-on assault on int’l justice. I hope their ordeal will end sooner than mine. 
I am proud my family pioneered all this, even if the cost is extremely high.
 
 
https://x.com/davenewworld_2/status/2070278914413396178
Fifty Shades of Whey  @davenewworld_2 
 
3 judges with the International Criminal Court filed a lawsuit in a US federal court against Trump and his administration, challenging the sanctions against them and calling it a “financial death penalty.”
 
The judges bringing the lawsuit are:
– Kimberly Prost (Canada)
– Solomy Balungi Bossa (Uganda)
– Reine Adelaide Sophie Alapini-Gansou (Benin) 
 
Trump placed sanctions on the judges over their judicial decisions regarding investigations into war crimes by Israel and the US. 
 
The judges argue that the sanctions are extrajudicial measures meant to punish and coerce them. They say the restrictions cut them off from banking, online platforms, travel booking, and sometimes health insurance. 
This should be much bigger news.
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 28 2026 5:27 utc | 207

Harmonic Resonance | Jun 28 2026 5:13 utc | 212
 
I suggest Eden in the East and contemplating how for thousands of years culture was the controller of societies and remained unchanged for those many years and what was done to those cultures as a result of the Agricultural Revolution, which caused a global paradigm change.  

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 28 2026 5:28 utc | 208

michaelj72 | Jun 28 2026 5:27 utc | 214
 
Thanks Mike! You perform valuable work. Sanctions on the judges are unconstitutional as they had zero due process. And yes, that ought to be a bigger news story but will be suppressed. 

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 28 2026 5:32 utc | 209

michaelj72 214

michael, the ICC is a sorry ptiiful joke. It has no arrest powers of its own nor does it have the power to compel domestic law enforcement anywhere in the world to act.

Not only isn’t it recognized by the US or the genocidal entity…it’s not recognized by China or Russia.

Orban simply withdrew from it rather than arrest Netanyahu.

It has done nothing because it is structured so that it cannot in fact do anything.

Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jun 28 2026 5:50 utc | 210

Now try and get that picture of Trump as the slowly boiling frog out of your mind……grin
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 27 2026 16:12 utc | 57
 
*************
 
Sorry – I’m late to the party; all I can see is a mucky, gelatinous, grease-slick. Looks a bit like a double-whopper processed ersatz cheese industrial substitute that was left in the sun too long. No remaining evidence of frogs.

Posted by: General Factotum | Jun 28 2026 6:39 utc | 211

Prunella Scales | Jun 28 2026 3:39 utc | 199—  
 
The Aryan Myth was used by Hitlerian Germany and Hindu India to promote their Exceptionalism …
 
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 28 2026 3:45 utc | 201

 
You’re referring to Nazis and Hindu India ideologies. Ok thanks for clarifying. I was into this 2010 and before, and forgotten many details now. It was confusing when you said the Aryan myth is a myth,’ because you’re right—but which myth? The linguistic ones? The racial ones? The colonial one? The nationalist one? The Nazi one? The migration one? The anti-caste inversion? The Theosophy ones? Because it’s not a single myth—it’s a dozen different ones, all arguing over a word that meant something completely different 3,500 years ago.
 
In India, colonial elites and reformers weaponized the “Aryan” word for their own identity politics—Tilak, Dayanand Saraswati, and even later Hindu nationalists all used selective readings of the Vedas to construct self-serving narratives. The Theosophical Society, led by figures like Helena Blavatsky and Annie Besant, played a significant role in crafting a particular narrative around the “Aryan” concept that was then leveraged for various ideological purposes. Blavatsky wrote about “Root Races” and “Races,” including the “Aryan” race, in the 1800s presenting them as part of a grand spiritual and evolutionary hierarchy.  Hitler rode on her coattails, obviously, given known influences on him. 
 
Besant, who succeeded Blavatsky, was a prominent figure in the Theosophical Society and also deeply involved in the Indian independence movement. She shifted the Theosophical approach towards a more political and nationalistic ideology, aligning it with the growing Indian nationalist movement. The scholar Dorothy M. Figueira’s work explicitly groups figures like Besant with Indian thinkers such as Tilak and Dayanand Saraswati, as they all reinterpreted Hindu scriptures to construct an “Aryan” identity that served their quest for a national identity under colonial rule. Alice Bailey, another key figure in the Theosophical tradition, built upon Blavatsky’s ideas. She maintained the concept of “root races” and Atlantis but also introduced new elements like a stronger focus on esoteric Christianity. 
 
Theosophists were not just passive observers of the “Aryan” discourse; they were active participants who developed their own distinct and influential version of it. The Aryan misconception is convoluted into multiple versions of myth making over centuries now. The word arya in Sanskrit — Indo-European languages — meant “noble” or “cultured”—it was a cultural, not racial, term. The same word appears in the Iranian Avesta as airya, but the Vedic Aryans worshipped Devas (Indra, Varuna, Mitra) while the Iranian Aryans worshipped Ahura Mazda and considered the Devas demons. They were rival branches of the same linguistic family — not a white Aryan race.
 
The racial myth is mainly a European colonial fabrication but likely a simple misinterpretation too. But nefarious intent is not needed to explain all the confusions that arose.
 
The idea of “Aryan” has been weaponised differently in different eras—European racial theory, Indian nationalist revivalism, anti-caste critiques, and Sikh-Hindu polemics all use it selectively. Later religious movements like Radhasoami and Sikh reform movements drew on this heritage but forged their own distinct identities, often in direct conflict with each other over the definition of “who is Aryan” or “who is Hindu”. The Sikh identity was also being aggressively contested — with Arya Samajists claiming Sikhs were merely Hindus (Swami Dayanand’s Satyarth Prakash attacked Guru Nanak and Sikhism), leading to the famous “Ham Hindu Nahin” (We are not Hindus) counter-movement.
 
The real kicker? None of them could read the Rigveda in its original context. They all projected their own 19th- and 20th-century obsessions—race, nation, spiritual hierarchy, political legitimacy—onto texts that were composed by pastoralists who were more concerned with cattle raids, soma rituals, and pleasing Indra than with constructing “racial purity” or “national destiny.”
 
The Steppe Pastoralists (Yamnaya culture) who later migrated into South Asia were the ones associated with the spread of Indo-European languages. The major migration of “Aryan” speakers began after ~2000 BCE, with the Steppe ancestry mixing into South Asian populations from around 1900–1500 BCE The current academic consensus places the Vedas incl. the Rigveda (the oldest Veda) around 1500-1200 BCE. DNA evidence shows that the Steppe pastoralist genes (“Aryan” genes) are found in about 30% of the Indian population today. This is not a distinct racial group but distinct peoples speaking the same language group. 
 

Chapter 4 on the Indo-Aryans would be relevant to this discussion.  OT, I became interested in shamanism in Central Asia from reading Mircea Eliade and his global survey of shamanism.  Geoffrey Ashe points to the Altai region as being the main source of the tradition.
Posted by: Harmonic Resonance | Jun 28 2026 3:43 utc | 200

 
Thanks for the tip. I found the chapter online. The author is making a case for a cultural migration of beliefs—specifically, that Vedic cosmology has roots in older, shamanic practices of the Altai region. It is a very different and less academic claim than the linguistic and genetic evidence but I wouldn’t be able to dismiss some kind of shamanic / mastery connection is possible. The similarities across all the subcontinent’s spiritual traditions are many. Though the more ancient Siberian period is disconnected from the Steppe Pastoralists who brought the Indo-European languages to India.  
 
The entire sub-continent spiritual landscape is awe inspiring. Studying these paths and their texts changed me forever. 

Posted by: Prunella Scales | Jun 28 2026 6:44 utc | 212

Re: ICC toothless ?
 
the constellation of forces is rapidly changing….war crimes have no statute of limitations…..lawfare works in both directions

Posted by: Exile | Jun 28 2026 6:46 utc | 213

Re: agriculture ?
 
its my understanding that agriculture began either in China or in India. 

Posted by: Exile | Jun 28 2026 6:49 utc | 214

Posted by: Prunella Scales | Jun 28 2026 6:44 utc | 213
One word on the theosophical society: Krishnamurti.  If one combines his philosophy with that of Marx (Krishnamurti permits thought to a useful end, like watch making for example) you have a complete philosophy.  Pre-cognition and cognition.  
Nonetheless, all that spiritual jazz is for after the Zio Imperialists have been smashed and dispersed.  There’s work to do, girl.  
Death to Israel!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 28 2026 6:53 utc | 215

Re: agriculture ?
 
its my understanding that agriculture began either in China or in India. 
 
Posted by: Exile | Jun 28 2026 6:49 utc | 215
Where it began is irrelevant.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 28 2026 6:54 utc | 216

Can we please keep to the subject.
 
I think a lot of the old barflies have flipped away because there is not enough discipline in posting subject. Several barflies never post on subject.
 
I am interested in the OT postings, but if they dominate the thread I move on.
 
Please keep it relevant.

Posted by: Bingo | Jun 28 2026 7:07 utc | 217

Can we please keep to the subject.
 
I think a lot of the old barflies have flipped away because there is not enough discipline in posting subject. Several barflies never post on subject.
 
I am interested in the OT postings, but if they dominate the thread I move on.
 
Please keep it relevant.
 
Posted by: Bingo | Jun 28 2026 7:07 utc | 218
Yes, mam.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 28 2026 7:12 utc | 218

by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 27 2026 11:56 utc | 6
 
Since 2022 Russians have lived well, in a prosperous and growing economy. Iranians have long lived in a sanctioned-to-death impoverished economy that has just recently suffered devastating bomb and missile attacks by the US and Israel, with (tragically) more to come.
 
Iran’s actions are the right thing to do, but they come from a ‘what more do we have to lose’ context. Russia DOES have a lot more to lose and rightly doesn’t want to lose it.

Posted by: fairleft | Jun 28 2026 7:17 utc | 219

Enough about India. This is the Iran thread. Leave the street shitters for another time

Posted by: Enough | Jun 28 2026 7:25 utc | 220

.. GDMFSOB .. 
 
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 27 2026 21:42 utc | 118

Karl put this on your sound system and play loud for the benefit of your ‘hood this Sunday morning or any other time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CpWOo7ODzg

Posted by: tucenz | Jun 28 2026 7:28 utc | 221

 
https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/2070865484786860136
Seyed Mohammad Marandi  @s_m_marandi 
 
As long as Trump does not abide by his MOU commitments, the situation in the Strait of Hormuz will not normalize, and the crisis will continue.
Strategic oil reserves are being rapidly depleted.
 
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https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/2070943931425075389
MenchOsint  @MenchOsint 
 
A bad day for the “two-state solution” enthusiasts, especially muslim nations that have normalized with Israel.
 
 
 
https://x.com/clashreport/status/2070942452114936212
Clash Report  @clashreport 
 
Netanyahu:  “There is no place for two states between the sea and the Jordan River.”
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 28 2026 7:34 utc | 222

Some personal history, old but relevant.
In 1984 I crossed checkpoint Charlie in Nicosia and joined 96 PLO fighters released from Israel for resettlement in Checkoslavarkia, then behind the iron curtain.
 
This was a UN program, but not humanitarian. The rape and murder at the Palestinian refuge camps in Lebanon is widely known. Thousands were raped and murdered. The IDF said they were not involved, that it was their proxy Phalange.
 
What happened that day was IDF soldiers went through the camp and collected all the babies. They cut their bellies and took them to the centre of each camp and threw them in a pile. Just as people do with their rubbish. A pile of hundreds of dead babies.
 
The IDF denied it was them, many witnesses said it was. Pressure was on the UN to enact war crimes legislation against Israel. America objected. But there were witnesses, PLO fighters who were locked away in Israel prisons who were at the camps and witnessed the massacre.
 
The UN obeyed the wishes of America and found the solution. Send all the witnesses for resettlement behind the iron curtain from where they could never be recalled. Problem goes away. No witnesses.
 
I spent over a month with these tortured and beaten men. I did my best as an observer to make their resettlement go as best as it could for them. And the Prague authority and citizens did their best.
 
Without UN authority I took formal testimony from each soldier that was at the camp and witnessed the massacre. The testimonials I later handed over to the ICC and are there on record.
 
The massacre was wholly the responsibility of the IDF with government approval. 
 
The action of the UN was also disgusting. 
 
There is a lot I can add. But my message is Israel has always been a disgusting nation. America has always supported them. And the UN is also, with regard to Israel, equally complicate.
 
I will never forget.

Posted by: Bingo | Jun 28 2026 7:42 utc | 223

Karlof1 @ 163:
 
India has been a combination of empires and smaller kingdoms at various times in its past. Even during the period of the British Raj, there were princely states that had some “independence” (of a sort we might compare to personal feudal fiefdoms). Suppose the country did break up into smaller states, that would not necessarily be a good thing or a bad thing – the context that leads to the break-up, who would benefit from the break-up, that is the most important factor.
 
The country could become a federation of self-governing states and city states based around language (as many states in India already are) or religion. That might be no bad thing if the majority of people in India prefer that arrangement. 

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jun 28 2026 8:42 utc | 224

Bingo 224
 
In my opinion, Britain created this Israel monster because they realised by the time of Queen Victoria 1860s that information technology meant that instantanous reporting on their brutality could no longer controlled, and they needed proxies to commit their colonial crimes.
 

Posted by: Giyane | Jun 28 2026 8:43 utc | 225

Ahenobarbus 219
 
You do realise that Prunella Scales is more than likely an 80 year old wrinkly gay man?
No offense to other 80 year olds intended. 

Posted by: Giyane | Jun 28 2026 8:50 utc | 226

Giyane  227
 
 
It’s all OK, she’s the long dead actress – Basil Fawlty’s wife – doing a last reprise right on time for the second coming.

Posted by: caliban | Jun 28 2026 9:08 utc | 227

Agonising Reappraisal 211
 
Hungary is a nest of Chabad Zionists, desperately trying to camouflage as a Woke European nation.
 
Orban is the only man in the world that believes Trump is sane.

Posted by: Giyane | Jun 28 2026 9:11 utc | 228

Thousands were raped and murdered. The IDF said they were not involved, that it was their proxy Phalange.

Likely same M.O. with the infamous massacre in Sabra and Shatila Refugee Camps 

Posted by: Exile | Jun 28 2026 9:13 utc | 229

Some personal history, old but relevant.In 1984 I crossed checkpoint Charlie in Nicosia and joined 96 PLO fighters released from Israel for resettlement in Checkoslavarkia, then behind the iron curtain. This was a UN program, but not humanitarian. The rape and murder at the Palestinian refuge camps in Lebanon is widely known. Thousands were raped and murdered. The IDF said they were not involved, that it was their proxy Phalange. What happened that day was IDF soldiers went through the camp and collected all the babies. They cut their bellies and took them to the centre of each camp and threw them in a pile. Just as people do with their rubbish. A pile of hundreds of dead babies. The IDF denied it was them, many witnesses said it was. Pressure was on the UN to enact war crimes legislation against Israel. America objected. But there were witnesses, PLO fighters who were locked away in Israel prisons who were at the camps and witnessed the massacre. The UN obeyed the wishes of America and found the solution. Send all the witnesses for resettlement behind the iron curtain from where they could never be recalled. Problem goes away. No witnesses. I spent over a month with these tortured and beaten men. I did my best as an observer to make their resettlement go as best as it could for them. And the Prague authority and citizens did their best. Without UN authority I took formal testimony from each soldier that was at the camp and witnessed the massacre. The testimonials I later handed over to the ICC and are there on record. The massacre was wholly the responsibility of the IDF with government approval.  The action of the UN was also disgusting.  There is a lot I can add. But my message is Israel has always been a disgusting nation. America has always supported them. And the UN is also, with regard to Israel, equally complicate. I will never forget.
Posted by: Bingo | Jun 28 2026 7:42 utc | 224

 
Bingo!

Posted by: tucenz | Jun 28 2026 9:20 utc | 230

Re: Sabra and Shatila 
 
……(from wiki)…..
Many of the bodies found had been severely mutilated. Young men had been castrated, some were scalped, and some had the Christian cross carved into their bodies.[75]
 
 
Janet Lee Stevens, an American journalist, later wrote to her husband, Dr. Franklin Lamb, “I saw dead women in their houses with their skirts up to their waists and their legs spread apart; dozens of young men shot after being lined up against an alley wall; children with their throats slit, a pregnant woman with her stomach chopped open, her eyes still wide open, her blackened face silently screaming in horror; countless babies and toddlers who had been stabbed or ripped apart and who had been thrown into garbage piles.”[7…….
 
Hmmmm; a consistent IDF M.O. the world has observed being played out live since the Hannibal Massacre of 7.Oct

Posted by: Exile | Jun 28 2026 9:22 utc | 231

Iran can strike deserted military bases until the end of time. USA does not care.
 
Trump and cronies care only about wealth. Strike the economy. Stock market and oil prices. Never telegraph intention.

Posted by: necromancer | Jun 28 2026 9:22 utc | 232

Singapore’s founding Prime Minister, Lee Kuan Yew, famously stated that India is not a real country, but rather “32 separate nations that happen to be arrayed along the British rail line.”

Posted by: tucenz | Jun 28 2026 9:38 utc | 233

Please see this Link, Hint its Not about Indian or Mountbatten mounting boys..
 
https://x.com/IRGC_IRAN_News/status/2071059218174775751
Things are heating up for Monday Oil opening. 
That’s a Lot of 4th of July fireworks fired early

Posted by: Thunderdownunder | Jun 28 2026 9:55 utc | 234

Iran you have been warned. Trump is not playing around. Kneel before your master!

“Trump also said that “one day we may no longer be sane” and be “forced” to restart military operations. “If this happens, Iran will cease to exist!” ”

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/SV9hc3BLKxeRuViaKQadVQ

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 28 2026 10:19 utc | 235

we just go from one war to another war..and the loser in each such war is bottom up humanity..   A careful review of the Milner group control over the development and failure of the League of Nations reveals the League of Nations did not get off the ground because it did not lend itself to continued British colonization and to private capital profits extracted by British control over its colonies and over the control of the elements of power thought to be exclusively available only to the British upper [Epstein class] crust. 
 
The UN failed for the same reason: private party aggression expressed through the actions of nation state leaders..
 
Neither the LoN or the UN included humans among its members, all members were states..
 
Clearly, a different type of global organization is needed……………….. I propose
a. that the nation states should be the non voting members and that all of humanity should be the only voting members.  No representation : every human in the world gets a vote. At least 70% of the living humans must vote the same before anything the nation states present for ratification can be made into a rule, law or principle to be enforced by the global organization.
 
b. that the guiding principle should be human rights irrespective of economics or political concerns.
 
c. that the global organization license the nation states.
 
d. that the renewal and operation of the nation state license be subject to strict adherence to human rights, any nation state violation of a human right automatically revokes the nation states license.. and puts the unlicensed government up for bid..
 
e. governments become professional managers. subject to replacement for violation of their nations charters and for violations and failures of promises made during their negotiations to become the government in charge of a nation state. 
 
f. part of the grant of charter to a nation state includes limitations on the numbers and types of weapons the nation state can own, build, design or field.
 
g. the point is no government can operate without a license.
 
h. all of the military a nation state creates comes under the command and control of the global organization when needed to defend the authority of the global organization to revoke a charter or to defend an instance exposing humans to human rights violations. (meaning no nation can team up with other nations to engage in wars, and any government that infringes or allows others to infringe human rights loses its charter and is replaced). It also means territorial boundaries become static and not subject to change..
 
i. all nation state licensees to use the one kind of currency issued by the global organization (the world has only one currency type).. this values most similar things the same worldwide.
 
j. Licensee Nations are taxed to fund the global organization.
 
To make a world safe, a global organization of the type above described is needed.  History shows anything the nation states agree on will self-organize into a lopsided collection of power that will enable a few to own the many. 
.. 
 
 

Posted by: snake | Jun 28 2026 10:59 utc | 236

Iran has an internal political problem. Mojtaba is said to have rejected the MOU because the Outlaw US Empire will never obey what it agreed to, which was 100% as we’ve seen. Mojtaba instead said go ahead and see what results, something IMO e knew would be quickly determined. Meanwhile, there’s lots of backroom happenings dealing with constructing a regional security formula. Nima reported the supreme council is overwhelmingly in favor of Mojtaba’s position, so it looks like the MOU will become toast. If you haven’t, read Larry Johnson’s article from yesterday about the fuel/oil iissue and then for bedtime read the newest Hudson transcript at his site. Crooke also has someting that’s mostly behind his paywall but will likely be published Monday at SCF.     
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 28 2026 4:02 utc | 201
 
Seriously, after June 13th last year, then February 28th, why would anyone ponder peace agreements with America?  Why would the Iranian political class be given a third chance?
 
I’d like to be optimistic and think that Iran can afford this ceasefire game and can restart the war as strongly as when they stopped it.  However something does not smell right in Tehran.
 
It would appear to be a simple thing to get rid of the leading politicians and give all decision making powers to the IRGC  Yet I wonder, how large is the Iranian political class?  Does Iran have its own Deep State problem?  How much more evidence does the Supreme Leader need before he rules the politicians to be Quislings and removes them from power?
 
Hopefully there’s no serious internal split and this MOU is due to Iran feeling a need to respect the wishes of Putin and Xi.  Two men, we know, who wish to avoid escalation at all cost.  Thus three militaries(China/Iran/Russia) are continually prevented from winning a conventional war against a 20th century, obsolete US military.

Posted by: EoinW | Jun 28 2026 11:04 utc | 237

Posted by: Exile | Jun 28 2026 6:49 utc | 215
 
Probably wrong. Evidence now suggests that agriculture of root crops may have started in Papua NG. yep ..Upsets the old “white man civilization stuff eh!!!
 
Grain growing is a little different but early adopters were in the Indus Valley, Mesopotamia, thee Nile and yes probably China, however Turkey is also now being mentioned.

Posted by: watcher | Jun 28 2026 11:11 utc | 238

Sound familiar?
 
“The ruling circles of the United States andIsrael were particularly glad when on May 17, 1983,they managed to impose the so-called peace agree¬ment on Lebanon, which had grown weak as a resultof Zionist attacks and long-standing religious clashes.
 
However, the plans of the imperialists and zionistsproved to have been built on sand.  The heroicstruggle of the Lebanese patriots led the Lebanesegovernment to annul on March 5, 1984, the enslavingagreement; Israel’s relations with Egypt are virtuallyat a freezing point. In February, 1985 the Israeliinvaders were compelled to start withdrawing their troopsfrom the ‘land of cedars’.”
 

Zionism Through the Statements of Its Leaders, Lionel Dadiani, 1986, pp. 22-23, https://www.marxists.org/subject/israel-palestine/ussr/zionism-statements.pdf

Posted by: Deja Vu and Tyler Too | Jun 28 2026 11:13 utc | 239

Surferket at 235: so far Iran has not yielded to the aerial attacks by the disunited states of a and the illegal jewish statelet called israel. And, israel is a sitting duck if the americans feel bold enough to restart the war again, against the will of the american people and against congress. Another issue is if there will be any funding for a continuation. However the jews will be at the center of Iran’s attention and the jews haven’t an awful lot to put up against a much much stronger enemy, which also has figured how the breach the iron dome. The jews are hopefully doomed and the illegal statelet gone for good! And iran can send their missiles against all the nefarious arab states on the persian gulf and cause havoc and take out their future livelihood for decades. No fun! At all. Will be fun to see the egregious trump as a lame duck for the rest of his second presidency!

Posted by: nisses | Jun 28 2026 11:14 utc | 240

MenchOsint  @MenchOsint
 
A bad day for the “two-state solution” enthusiasts, especially muslim nations that have normalized with Israel.

 
I hardly see why. Not a single one of these nations has done a damn thing for the cause of Palestinian statehood — with the exception of the Ansarullah faction in Yemen — and most of them have been cutting cozy deals with the Zionazis. It’s only a “bad day” when they realize that Uncle Shmuel isn’t doing a good job of protecting their sorry asses, but they remain miserable little toadies.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 28 2026 11:15 utc | 241

Salaam, Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 28 2026 7:34 utc | 223Netanyahu: “There is no place for two states between the sea and the river Jordan.Look mike – Milelikowsky is right- he is off that  opinion.We all know what is said about opinions right- see “opinions are like ass holes,everybody is entitled to one,that does not mean they have one or that it’s practical or functional,but they are so entitled”. There was and will be only one state- and “PALESTINE” it will be from the river to the sea.Salaam.

Posted by: 4q8 | Jun 28 2026 11:41 utc | 242

 In times of peace and peacemaking, the politicals are in the driver seat.
 
When peace fails, the IRGC take over, answering direct to Supreme Leader.
 
I would say this is about to happen, again.

Posted by: necromancer | Jun 28 2026 11:46 utc | 243

correction on 239:
 
Zionism Through the Statements of Its Leaders, Lionel Dadiani, 1986, text pp. 21-22,  pdf pages 22-23 https://www.marxists.org/subject/israel-palestine/ussr/zionism-statements.pdf

Posted by: Deja Vu and Tyler Too | Jun 28 2026 12:27 utc | 244

Consider how the Iranians are now running triple shifts 7 days a week in their Underground arms factories.  Likely millions of eager volunteers helping out in all sorts of ways too.
 
Fatima the Riveter indeeed 😎

Posted by: Exile | Jun 28 2026 12:53 utc | 245

malenkov 240
 
 
‘I hardly see why. Not a single one of these nations has done a damn thing for the cause of Palestinian statehood — with the exception of the Ansarullah faction in Yemen — and most of them have been cutting cozy deals with the Zionazis.’
 
The entirety of Sunni Islam, led by the 250 year empire-tamed South Asians of the British Raj, accept Western Hegemony, USUKIS,  in its entirety. Its military power,  its Capitalism, its spying and its lying, is regarded by all Sunnis as reasonable,  if not exemplary , behaviour.
 
Oman is  brazenly  subverting the MOU in alliance with  USUKIS . 
The GCC gulfies are allowing USUKIS to thwart Iran from the US bases. 
Turkiye and Qatar are long captured by USUKIS,  Qatar betrayed the Palestinians one year prior to Oct 7 in synchronised Swan Lake ballet solidarity with USUKIS. 
Pakistan is attacking Afghanistan for USUKIS as we sit.
The Sunnis recognise Protestant theology, directing prayer to God, not Jesus alaihi salam, as pure Islamic theology, even though millions of Muslims and Christians still revere prophets and saints in ignorance.
 
But, as I wrote above, Britain created both Israel and the Islamic Republic of Iran,  as tools of Divide and Rule , in order to conquer West Asia.
But the Sunnis are too addicted to slavery to their Western enemies, to care.
 
As a result , we will see Iranian power being dissolved by Sunni Theological opposition to the Shi’a,  and blind submission to Western Hegemony.
 
It’s being going on since 1500 when the scriptures of Monotheism,  Greek, Latin, Aramaic, Hebrew and Arabic were translated into Western languages and Roman Catholic Feudalism was exposed as political fraud.
 
It is only Afghanistan , which repelled the British Raj back in the days,  which has the self-respect and honour to reject Western Colonial Lies.
 

Posted by: Giyane | Jun 28 2026 13:13 utc | 246

“Anarchism in Iran (historically Persia) is a political tradition with roots in proto-socialist and anti-authoritarian religious movements, most notably the Zoroastrian teachings of Mazdak and the Bábí faith, which was labeled ‘anarchism’ by Qajar-era observers for its opposition to monarchy and clergy.
 
 

  • Historical Roots: Early anarchic tendencies emerged from Islamic sects like the Kharijites and Muʿtazila, and the Nizaris of Alamut, who practiced a form of individualist autonomy. In the 19th century, Babism became the primary vehicle for anti-statist dissent.
  •  

 

  • Modern Era: Anarchism gained prominence during the Constitutional Revolution (1906–1911), with anarchists leading the Jungle Movement in Gilan and establishing the Persian Socialist Soviet Republic in 1920. This was suppressed by the Pahlavi dynasty.

 
 

  • Contemporary Movement: Modern Iranian anarchism re-emerged after the Islamic Revolution (1979) and is currently active through groups like the Anarchist Front and the Federation of the Era of Anarchism. They characterize recent uprisings (such as those following the death of Mahsa Amini) as ‘genuine self-organisation’ and oppose both the Islamic Republic and monarchist restoration, advocating instead for horizontal, stateless social structures.”

 
~ Brave search consolidated results quote

Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Jun 28 2026 13:58 utc | 247

Anarchist Front of Iran and Afghanistan
The Political Future of Iran An Analysis from an Iranian Anarcho-Syndicalist Perspective
 
“Considering all the general points discussed so far, a specific analysis and conclusion from an anarchist viewpoint can be presented: Essentially, wars, coups, and power competitions among states are seen as the result of the structure of centralized states. That is, states compete with one another to maintain power and influence. Yet it is always the workers and ordinary people who pay the greatest cost of crises, wars, and destruction caused by them.
 
 
Therefore anarchism generally shifts the focus of discussion from ‘which state will win’ to the question: how can people organize and manage their lives and society without domination and authority structures of power?
 
 
Most scenarios discussed here still fall within the framework of centralized state structures such as: changes within the government, a military state, a reformed republic, or a parliamentary system. Anarchism, however, believes that even if governments change, as long as centralized power structures remain, the danger of reproducing authoritarianism, inequality, and repression continues.
 
 
The alternative proposed by anarchism
 
 
In many anarchist theories the proposed alternatives of horizontal self-organization and self-management include: local-regional democratic councils and federal-confederal self-governance, labor-syndicalist unions, independent and free civil-social institutions, and networks of voluntary cooperation and solidarity among diverse ethnic communities instead of a powerful central state. In such a model, all decisions are made participatorily at the local-regional level, and power in society is distributed in a decentralized and non-hierarchical manner.
 
 
Even many anarchist thinkers acknowledge that the transition to such a society is usually possible only through a long and gradual process and often develops alongside other political structures. Therefore in the short term, from their perspective, the most important issue may be that if civil society, local-regional networks, and self-organizing institutions are strengthened, society’s total dependence on the state will decrease.
 
 
Conclusion
 
 
If we summarize the entire discussion from an anarchist perspective:
 
 

  1. Political crises and wars are often the product of competition among centralized states.

 

  1. Changing a government does not necessarily mean the end of structures of domination and authority.

 

  1. The long-term solution lies in expanding social self-management, decentralizing power, mutual aid, voluntary cooperation, and sustainable solidarity among working people.”

 
~ https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anarchist-front-of-iran-and-afghanistan-the-political-future-of-iran

Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Jun 28 2026 14:19 utc | 248

“Therefore anarchism generally shifts the focus of discussion from ‘which state will win’ to the question: how can people organize and manage their lives and society without domination and authority structures of power?”
 
~ https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anarchist-front-of-iran-and-afghanistan-the-political-future-of-iran

Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Jun 28 2026 14:22 utc | 249

Strange Bedfellow 248
 
The Kharijites, properly called Khawarij, the ones whose doctrinal rigidity caused them to leave Islam,  were the equivalent of the Leaven of the  Pharisees whose  baking powder increased the transgressions like baking powder increases the volume of dough.
 
Their modern equivalent is ISIS/Daesh, Abu Bakr Baghdadi and Jewlani, all wholly owned by Zionists like Trump, who can kill and  resurrect them miraculously like QE Fiat currency.
 
The purpose of Shi’ism was to make Islam into an inherited dynasty, as opposed to Sunni Islam whose leaders are qualified by their following of the teachings ir Sunnah of Islam.
 
In simple  terms, Britain owns 

  1.  The Shi’a 
  2.  The Daesh takfiris
  3.  The sporty Gulfies 
  4.  The South Asian Sunnis
  5.  The Muslim Brotherhood
  6.  The Arab and Kurdish Salafis 
  7.  Sufism
  8.  Salafism
  9.  The racket called Babas and Peers
  10.  The Alawites,  Ali admirers.

And they use them to exploit West Asian gas and oil.
DIVIDE the Divine & Rule.
Most humans beings like bribes.

Posted by: Giyane | Jun 28 2026 14:26 utc | 250

Strange Bedfellow 250
 
Please Note that in the Chinese Squid Game rebels collect glass marbles and are quickly vaporised.
 
West Asia is one,  big, British, Squid Game 

Posted by: Giyane | Jun 28 2026 14:30 utc | 251

“The Aryan Myth was just that–a myth.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 28 2026 3:35 utc | 194
 
 
” I am Darius: great king,  king of kings, king of the lands of all men,  king on this great earth, far and wide, son of Hystaspes, an Achaemenid, a Persian, son of a Persian, an Aryan of Aryan descent.”

Posted by: Vacuous Cipher | Jun 28 2026 14:35 utc | 252

@ Giyane | Jun 28 2026 14:26 utc | 251____
 
We can forever talk in cicles, such as on sites like these, about this or that State war and get nowhere– and worse, if we appeal somehow to the State structure.
So the question is, how serious are we about actual change?
Or are we happier simply virtue signaling, like, virtually, online.
Real attempts at change means getting our hands and heads dirty.
Look, not all fish left the oceans. The ones that did eventually made us, to walk on land and breathe air with lungs. Not all fish are going to want to leave their oceans. I understand that. But for the ones who do, there you go.
 
Do we want to evolve? And if so, how?

Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Jun 28 2026 14:36 utc | 253

From the Harretz Article Posted above thread:
 
……..Nadav Wiersch’s telephone never stops ringing. “Excuse me,” he says. “I can’t miss a call.” Some talk to him in a whisper, others anxiously.

 

His last caller was the wife of a reservist. “He left the house hours ago and doesn’t answer his phone,” she says. Wiersch went looking for him with the help of the police. After several hours, he was found in a nearby woods. Confused, angry, suicidal. If they had found him a few hours later, it might have ended differently. Another name would have been added to the lesser-known list of war casualties: those with psychological injury.
 
 
 
Until the war began, the man had been functioning perfectly well, working as a crane operator. He no longer does. A Defense Ministry committee ruled that he was completely unfit for employment.
 
 
He went from being a tax-paying citizen and an active-duty reservist, to someone dependent, and dangerous to himself and those around him. None of his caregivers know if he’ll ever return to society.

“This has become a regular occurrence,” sighed Wiersch, chairman of Yahalomei Krav (Battle Diamonds), an association for war wounded. “There are many like him.”……….
 
 
comment : Netanyahu is Israelis own worst enemy. Ever since he ordered the Hannibal Massacre of mamy hundreds of Israelis It’s become obvious to even the most naive. 

Posted by: Exile | Jun 28 2026 14:45 utc | 254

“Please Note that in the Chinese Squid Game rebels collect glass marbles and are quickly vaporised. West Asia is one,  big, British, Squid Game ”
Posted by: Giyane | Jun 28 2026 14:30 utc | 252
____
 
 
Apparently, there was only one plant that made it onto land– the cooksonia, theoretically. It was the ‘rebel’ that didn’t get vaporized (yet by an asteroid). But some will of course continue to tell us cautionary tales about how getting out of the oceans and onto land is hopeless and dangerous.

Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Jun 28 2026 14:45 utc | 255

A little naive, b.
*Someone* induced the Taiwan-owned ship to try to run th Strait against the authority assugn to Iran under s.5 of the MoU.
The swiftness and escalatory aggression by the U.S. suggests the whole episode was contrived to collapse the MoU.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Jun 28 2026 14:45 utc | 256

Brian Berletic

 

 

/IRAN US Continues Striking Iran, Trump and “anti-war” Vance both Justify and Lie About Continued US Aggression…
 
The US continues striking targets across Iran with Iran responding with far less effective drone strikes in a formula that – at the moment – favors the US picking apart Iran;
 
US strikes are carried out supposedly in retaliation to Iranian interdiction operations in the Strait of Hormuz – however those ops are taking place  because the US-Israel continue their war on Hezbollah in violation of both the “ceasefire” and “MOU;”
 
As I’ve pointed out, Hezbollah is part of Iran’s regional defense capabilities and attacking Hezbollah is done SOLELY to isolate and eventually eliminate Iran itself;
 
For all these people who imagine “Vance” or anyone else in the Trump administration, or Washington in general, are “different” or are “against” the wars – please keep these moments of overt dishonesty and warmongering in mind the next time they try to convince you otherwise;

 

Posted by: arby | Jun 28 2026 14:47 utc | 257

“Netanyahu is Israelis own worst enemy”
 
— so I guess Bibi isn’t all bad.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 28 2026 14:48 utc | 258

 
james replying to George the Zeroth | Jun 28 2026 1:45 utc :

well, she has a sense of humour, if nothing else, lol… it is easy to be cynical…  i have first hand experience in that too.. 
 
…might be a he too.. i am thinking of a particular person i recently rubbed the wrong way… this poster is new the past few days and an interesting addition to moa…

Posted by: james | Jun 28 2026 3:28 utc | 190
 
 
—–
 
George put a cynical spin on Prunella’s comment which was then half echoed. 
I read the original comment differently, as not cynical.
 
Now it seems from subsequent commentary from the same poster,
 

The similarities across all the subcontinent’s spiritual traditions are many…
The entire sub-continent spiritual landscape is awe inspiring. Studying these paths and their texts changed me forever. 
Posted by: Prunella Scales | Jun 28 2026 6:44 utc | 213
 

 
the comment was not a response to being “rubbed the wrong way.”
 
~~
Dichotomies often imposed on argumentation by modernity, materialism versus ideation/imagination, materialism vs idealism, can function to obstruct understanding and thus beneficial actions in a shared reality. Categorization aids understanding only so much.
 
Why does the borg spend so much time, energy and money attempting to parasitize and control our imagination if imagination has no impact on reality?
 
Structured materiality operates through complex webs of cause and effects which can be influenced and thus shaped by intention.  This web of causality is so complex so as to be incomprehensible to most beings.  
Physical and spiritual reality are not separate. There are hard structural limitations but they have open horizons, mental and physical.
 
How it this related to the Iran topic?  Bingo asks.
Iran has demonstrated the imagination and will to call out the evil borg, showing it to be a paper tiger militarily.  Unfortunately this is not enough to squelch the inhumanity of it all because even paper tigers are piloted by imagination, this one fueled by a mammon cult power.  And it will continue to imagine hegemony and implement cruel inhumane schemes in an attempt to get there until quashed and buried.
 
May it be so.
 

Posted by: suzan | Jun 28 2026 15:00 utc | 259

“And it will continue to imagine hegemony and implement cruel inhumane schemes in an attempt to get there until quashed and buried.”
~ suzan | Jun 28 2026 15:00 utc | 260
____
 
Potentially taking ‘everyone’ down with it. Civ Collapse 101 perhaps, ay?
 
So who wants to transcend this ‘doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result’?

Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Jun 28 2026 15:08 utc | 260

Strange Bedfellow 254
 
It is acknowledged in Sunni Islam that authoritarian leaders like Saddam Hussein, who ruthlessly punish rebels, sometimes are ruthless against the enemies of Islam, so there is benefit in enduring authoritarian rule .
 
Saddam did not repent his authoritarianism,  because he defended Iraq against the Empire which put him in power,  which then trashed Iraq after he was gone.
 
The Kurds are now in a much more servile position to USUKIS than ever they were under Saddam.
The same is going to happen to Iran, for the same reasons, that USUKIS owns the Islamic Republican of Iran and owns Zionist Israel.
 
Nothing evolves  by itself in Islamic belief.
Allah can bring change to those who fully follow His teachings.
All the groups available are in various degrees in hoc to the sworn enemies of Islam.
 
The disciples of Jesus alaihi salam destroyed European Paganism, but it has reverted back to Paganism, Wokism etc
The disciples of Muhammad (saw) destroyed much of Asian Paganism but they reverted back to Paganism, with the Western worship of Mammon.
 
Afghanistan is the only country that has kicked out the West. The injuries sustained by the Afghanis and now the Palestinians,, do not stop the Muslim leaders from constantly siding with the Western countries who inflicted those terrible injuries.
 Oman will become a colony of USUKIS,  like UAE, for betraying Iran at its moment of need.
Actions have consequences. The actions rise to Allah, and the decisions descend from His Throne.
 
 

Posted by: Giyane | Jun 28 2026 15:19 utc | 261

Wait until things get really ugly. Or of course one can take the positive dreamer approach like james does. You’ll feel happier for longer in the interim, but the result will be the same. 
Posted by: Prunella Scales | Jun 28 2026 3:22 utc | 366
 

 
Oops re my reading at Jun 28 2026 15:00 utc. 
 
I mistook “positive dream approach” for the human imagination. 
The first is a subset of the latter.
 
Whilst our historical trajectory abounds with reasons for cynicism, abandon not one’s humanity.
 
 
 

Posted by: suzan | Jun 28 2026 15:57 utc | 262

Potentially taking ‘everyone’ down with it. Civ Collapse 101 perhaps, ay?
 
So who wants to transcend this ‘doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result’?
Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Jun 28 2026 15:08 utc | 261
 
—-
 
The Persians and friends?
 
Going beyond to more a more just world order.
 
 

Posted by: suzan | Jun 28 2026 16:00 utc | 263

For the record: Sunnis lament the martyrdom of Hussain at Qarbala as Shia do, only with less sentiment attached. They also have special veneration for Ali, his progeny and some of the imams of the Shia.

Posted by: ruh | Jun 28 2026 16:15 utc | 264

I think it is important to not paint the Lebanese resistance only in yellow green / shia colors. Israel indiscriminate bombombing in the last months (Tyre / Sour) did nit only hit Shia citizens of Lebanon. In one of the regular podcasts of “The cradle”   It was mentioned that the resistance bye now is multi confessional, multi ethnical phenomena with christian fighters beeing extra fanatical. Israel at least did not just hit Shia in the south with massevac. orders and carpet bombings.
What is really terrible about this situation is to put hope into Erdogan and his man in Damascus . I would refrain of buying a single onion on a market bye both of them. Question is how performative the israelie confrontation talk towards Turkieye and Syria.
 
 

Posted by: El.Lissitzky | Jun 28 2026 16:30 utc | 265

“The Kharijites, properly called Khawarij, the ones whose doctrinal rigidity caused them to leave Islam”
 
Posted by: Giyane | Jun 28 2026 14:26 utc | 251
 
That’s wrong. The Khawarij didn’t leave Islam. They stayed, as sectarians. Only today they don’t use that name any more. Ibadis, for example, still exist, and other groups. The kharaja (Ar. ‘go out’) didn’t mean leave Islam, but go out from caliphal government.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jun 28 2026 16:52 utc | 266

Laguerre 257
 
Khawarij means the ones who leave
In terms of the of our sunnah our prophet peace be upon him they left the sunnah.
Anybody outside the sunnah has left Islam.
They have made up something which makes it different from Islam, like today’s takfiris.

Posted by: Giyane | Jun 28 2026 17:42 utc | 267

She cannot stand an open discussion that challenges her worldview  Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jun 27 2026 20:23 utc | 100 Show me someone who does. Mearsheimer does it well. There are a small few. I’ve not seen anyone here who can stand it. Not one.
Posted by: Prunella Scales | Jun 28 2026 0:29 utc | 148

But do they wield ban-hammers?

Posted by: jonboinAR | Jun 28 2026 19:00 utc | 268

Here is “Yves” most recent example of her reaction when someone apparently “projected” her quoted article from Larry Johnson this morning:
 
Yves Smith June 28, 2026 at 12:50 pm

How dare you attack me based on your deficient reading comprehension. That was material quoted from a Larry Johnson post. Straw manning and attacks on the site and site authors are each violations of our written site Policies.
I trust you will find your happiness on the Internet elsewhere.

Reply

Posted by: Harmonic Resonance | Jun 28 2026 19:36 utc | 269

Whilst our historical trajectory abounds with reasons for cynicism, abandon not one’s humanity.
 
Posted by: suzan | Jun 28 2026 15:57 utc | 263
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Cynicism happens to be an integral part of “humanity”.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 28 2026 20:04 utc | 270

‘Cynicism happens to be an integral part of “humanity”.’

Indeed.

It is in fact a healthy natural defense against those who ‘reason’ to the point of absurdity and who ‘reason’ in the interest of evil or just plain bullshit (usually to sell you something).

Too much isn’t a good thing though…

Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jun 28 2026 20:10 utc | 271

‘Cynicism happens to be an integral part of “humanity”.’
 
Indeed.
It is in fact a healthy natural defense against those who ‘reason’ to the point of absurdity and who ‘reason’ in the interest of evil or just plain bullshit (usually to sell you something).
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Or against those who are hopelessly addicted to hopium. It’s the antidote.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 28 2026 20:14 utc | 272

Harmonic Resonance 270

It was an honest mistake and the points made were valid.

Susan Webber felt ‘attacked’ by the word ‘wrong’ even though she herself admits that it isn’t even her words/opinion the commenter was ‘attacking’ as wrong – it was Stogie Larry Johsnon’s opinion.

The whole thing probably boils down to sloppy formatting – the paragraph indentations weren’t done well.

‘You were wrong in that Trump is, in fact, willing to risk crashing the US economy by bombing Iran again.’

Again, the operative word is ‘wrong’ and probably none among us wants to be told directly ‘you’re wrong’ although it should be said here that ‘Yves Smith’ has no problem whatsoever doing so herself.

If the commenter had said ‘I believe that Trump IS in fact willing to risk crashing the economy…’ – if it was approached that way the entire thing may never have happened.

But Yves was wanting to get rid of that commenter anyway.

If the commenter was even legit to begin with and not an NC-created ‘bogeyman’ to be slapped down in order to show who is boss and to constantly reiterate in regular – and new – readers’ minds the walls that they must stay within/behind.

Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jun 28 2026 20:32 utc | 273

So far not a single comment is addressing the coming 250th anniversary of the USA.
It seems to me that the 4th of July may be a day which will see some big surprise from the Iranian side, which will dwarf the current skirmishes, and this will be done for political purposes to show the world how weak the US empire in fact has become. 

Posted by: fanto | Jun 28 2026 21:20 utc | 274

Posted by: Harmonic Resonance | Jun 28 2026 19:36 utc | 270
woe into you if you incur the wrath of Susi Webber. I still scan naked capitalism but no longer comment after a run in with her. She regularly breaks her own rules, which apparently don’t apply to her. I don’t give them money any more, either. Now b, on the other hand, I do sporadically send money to.

Posted by: Dhaibhidh | Jun 28 2026 21:25 utc | 275

Fatima the Riveter indeeed.
Posted by: Exile | Jun 28 2026 12:53 utc | 246
 

Grin Exile, Grin.
 
Fatima, umm, a little bit too Arabic. More like:
 
Googoosh the Riveter.
 
She was a 70s hottie singer. Need pix, you know.
 
I don’t know how they say her name in Arabic ( no G in Arabic). KooKoosh?
 
Needed a little diversion today.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jun 28 2026 21:41 utc | 276

fanto | Jun 28 2026 21:20 utc | 275
*** So far not a single comment is addressing the coming 250th anniversary of the USA.It seems to me that the 4th of July may be a day which will see some big surprise from the Iranian side, which will dwarf the current skirmishes, and this will be done for political purposes to show the world how weak the US empire in fact has become. ***
 
You think they will actually go so far extremist as to not relay Trump’s live internationally broadcast “250 Mooning Peace Twerk rUS” (with supporting tagnuts) to his adoring public in Iran?
 

Posted by: Cynic | Jun 28 2026 22:28 utc | 277

It seems to me that the 4th of July may be a day which will see some big surprise from false flag attributed to the Iranian side, which will dwarf the current skirmishes, and this will be done for political purposes to show the world how weak the US empire in fact has become much the USA needs to eliminate the Iranian threat once and for all.
 
Posted by: fanto | Jun 28 2026 21:20 utc | 275

 
FIFY.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 28 2026 23:23 utc | 278

b, I have to disagree with this statement: “Iran saw this (falsely) as a breach of the Memorandum of Understanding with the U.S.
 
The MoU says this w.r.t. the Strait of Hormuz: “Upon the signing of this MOU, the Islamic Republic of Iran will make arrangements using its best efforts for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge, for 60 days only, from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa.
 
I can only read that as a statement by both the USA and Iran that it is IRAN – and IRAN ALONE – that makes arrangements for the transit passage of vessels through the Strait of Hormuz.  Which, indeed, they have done:  the arrangement they made is that ships transit through a passage that hugs the Iranian coast in full coordination with the IRGC. 
 
Any alternative route proposed by the USA and/or the International Maritime Organisation can not be anything other than a gross violation of that provision in the MoU.
 
The Iranians are in the right in this matter, and the USA is in the wrong:  for the next 60 days the Iranians get to decide the passage through the Strait of Hormuz.
 
Not the USA.  Not the International Maritime Organisation.
 
 

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jun 29 2026 0:33 utc | 279

advocating instead for horizontal, stateless social structures.”
 
Posted by: Strange Bedfellow | Jun 28 2026 13:58 utc | 248
 
I admire the enthusiasm for anarchist ideals, but they won’t be happening in Iran any time soon in my opinion. I think the worse thing to happen to Iran was Islam taking it over hundreds of years ago. You can’t serve two masters iow. 
 
The references are good, that anarchist website is excellent I agree. My view is still nothing anywhere can stop the systemic nature of todays complex global structures until it ultimately collapses decades into the future. Maybe then pockets of anarchist communities can develop again. Like life used to be like for humans everywhere.  Best wishes in spreading the word though. 
 
In the meantime dismantling the Rojava model in east syria last January will continue.
Here’s a little Graeber and Wengrow who refer to the three primordial freedoms, those which for most of human history were simply assumed: the freedom to move, the freedom to disobey and the freedom to create or transform social relationships. We also noted how theEnglish word ‘free’ ultimately derives from a Germanic term meaning ‘friend’ – since, unlike free people, slaves cannot have friends because they cannot make commitments or promises. The freedom to make promises is about the most basic and minimal element of our third freedom, much as physically running away from a difficult situation is the most basic element of the first. In fact, the earliest word for‘freedom’ recorded in any human language is the Sumerian term ama(r)-gi, which literally means ‘return to mother’ – because Sumerian kings would periodically issue decrees of debt freedom, cancelling all non-commercial debts and in some cases allowing those held as debt peons in their creditors’ households to return home to their kin.One might ask, how could that most basic element of all human freedoms, the freedom to make promises and commitments and thusbuild relationships, be turned into its very opposite: into peonage,serfdom or permanent slavery? It happens, we’d suggest, precisely when promises become impersonal, transferable – in a nutshell, bureaucratized. It is one of history’s great ironies that Madame de Graffigny’s notion of the Inca state as a model of a benevolent, bureaucratic order actually derives from a misreading of the sources, if a very common one: mistaking the social benefits of local, self-organized administrative units (ayllu) for an imperial, Inca structure of command, which in reality served almost exclusively to provision the army, priesthood and administrative classes.133 Mesopotamian and later Chinese kings also tended to represent themselves, like the Egyptian nomarchs, as protectors of the weak, feeders of the hungry, solace of widows and orphans.
As money is to promises, we might say, state bureaucracy is to the principle of care: in each case we find one of the most fundamental building blocks of social life corrupted by a confluence of maths and violence.Congratulations to the Americans for supporting 250 years of Peonage and Violence by the State. And for believing the myth the founding fathers were not all lying war criminals and thieves. 
 
The situation for the Kurds in Rojava, the autonomous region in northeastern Syria, has changed dramatically in early 2026. Following a intense military offensive by the Syrian interim government, the autonomous administration has agreed to integrate into the Syrian state, effectively ending its decade-long experiment in self-rule. This marks a major geopolitical shift, with the United States backing this outcome and withdrawing support for its former Kurdish allies
 
The Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria (AANES), known as Rojava, had established a unique system of decentralized governance. This was built on local councils, ethnic and religious power-sharing, and a mandatory co-chair system requiring one man and one woman to jointly hold every leadership position . This system is now being dismantled.
 
You can add the Kurdish Rojava to the list of nations and political systems destroyed by the great Satan America using violence and threats against basic human rights. It will not last forever. Their days are numbered too. 

Posted by: Prunella Scales | Jun 29 2026 1:47 utc | 280

Yes, Rojava.
 
An important document on that:
 
The Threat to Rojava: An Anarchist in Syria Speaks on the Real Meaning of Trump’s Withdrawal
 
A pity. I had high hopes for their project.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 29 2026 2:25 utc | 281

cynic, malenkov 278, 279
Thank taking me down to earth for 

Posted by: fanto | Jun 29 2026 3:00 utc | 282

Cynicism happens to be an integral part of “humanity”.
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 28 2026 20:04 utc | 271
 
—–
 
Thanks George the Zeroth.  I agree with you.
 
But there’s Cynicism and then there is cynicism.
 
The first, Cynicism, was an ancient greek philosophical practice which sought to attain well being solely through the practice of virtue and self-reliance, ignoring stupid social conventions and living simply in accordance with nature.  It manifested as radical optimism.  It rejected materialism, riches, honor and status. Reminiscent of some buddhist sects.
 
Modern cynicism inverts this return-to-nature/simplicity tradition when taken to an extreme when one’s default setting is to distrust all human motives, relationships, institutions, etc., manifesting sometimes in a debilitating pessimism.
 
Whilst cynicism as critical inquiry, asking crucial questions and being critical but open to answers, is indeed integral to empowering one’s full humanity. But if taken to an extreme it can result in the opposite: despondency, passiveness, isolation and societal breakdown.  That is what I meant.
 

Posted by: suzan | Jun 29 2026 3:46 utc | 283

I don’t know how they say her name in Arabic ( no G in Arabic). KooKoosh? Needed a little diversion today.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jun 28 2026 21:41 utc | 277
 
A Lebanese colleague would refer to attractive women as “Couscous” after the wheat dish.  Your phonetic spelling looks close enough.
 
Iranian and Turkish friends in college used two insult words sparingly.  Koshkish and Kosol.  Along with the fist argent merde’.  My roomate then asked them “What do you call someone who does not like women and who goes after other men?
Their eyes got real big, then they bent their heads and consulted in whispers amongst themselves…..Raising their heads simultaneously, they all loudly intoned…..”KOOOONII”   Circa 1979, FWIW.
 
Ma Saalem

Posted by: Harmonic Resonance | Jun 29 2026 4:46 utc | 284

@ suzan | Jun 28 2026 15:57 utc | 263
 
thanks for drawing my attention to a dead actress’s quotes from earlier.. i had missed that.. i must have been dreaming, lol… nothing like mischaracterizing others here at moa… it seems to work well for those who have intentions that are clouded by their ignorance.. oh well.. 

Posted by: james | Jun 29 2026 5:28 utc | 285

@ suzan | Jun 28 2026 15:57 utc | 263 thanks for drawing my attention to a dead actress’s quotes from earlier.. i had missed that.. i must have been dreaming, lol… nothing like mischaracterizing others here at moa… it seems to work well for those who have intentions that are clouded by their ignorance.. oh well.. 
Posted by: james | Jun 29 2026 5:28 utc | 286
 
Who art thou so wise in the ways of the ignorance? nothing like mischaracterizing others here at moa, it’s the standard entry fee all must pay the ferryman. You must have been dreaming james but your posts often times make me very happy and glad to know you.. thank you for being who you are! 
 
And best wishes to suzan who was right the first time. 
 
 

Posted by: Prunella Scales | Jun 29 2026 5:47 utc | 286

Yes, Rojava. Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 29 2026 2:25 utc | 282
 
Very sad, but to be expected nevertheless. thank you for the link, its good. 
 
Rojava Kurds @ 28mins imagination vs violence David Graeber  –  The Gun has No Trigger   2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4fQEn15NgI
 

Experiencing the Revolution in Rojava (29:02)
On the other hand, I think that one of the key… and I just got back, I should explain. My head is still filled with this stuff. I just came back from a trip to Rojava in Northern Syria. I was there for ten days; I guess got back a week ago.
And I realized that there are a lot of other people who are thinking along these same lines, who are reading the same stuff, and have come up with a new revolutionary paradigm. I think it’s a sign of the war on the imagination—the highest sign of the war of imagination—that even people on the left don’t seem to be able to really believe it’s actually happening.
We’ve all been in a trance for the last three months. Most people who read the news see all these images of women carrying machine guns, you know, this sort of feminist army—or at least a women’s army—and sometimes it’s put down to, “Well, I guess it’s a traditional Kurdish thing.”
I’ve been in contact with some of the people who’ve been organizing that for some time. And in a way, I was aware that this has to do with a very self-conscious ideological process that’s been going on for at least 20 years now within social movements in the area.
But what I find fascinating is, if you go there, everybody says the same thing: “We’ve been having a social revolution for three years now. Why don’t you guys notice? Why is nobody interested? We’re doing all these interesting experiments.”
A Police Academy That Teaches Feminism
So, just to give you a sense of what’s going on: the first place we went was a police academy. It was a place the Syrian regime used to use to torture people. It had now been converted to a police academy. But their idea of a police academy was a place where they have six-month trainings, and you have to take courses on feminist theory before you’re allowed to touch a weapon, for example.
And they basically said, “Well, you know, this is a police academy. Our basic idea is we want to give everybody in the entire country six weeks of police training, and then we can abolish the police. If everybody knows how to do it, then you don’t need specialists.” So everybody could just be part of their local peace and consensus committees, as they call the local justice things.

 
and David Graeber: Why Rojava Matters       2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovfw6BJ3OLM  
 
RIP David

Posted by: Prunella Scales | Jun 29 2026 6:02 utc | 287

Hmmm; reading all this stuff on Rojava reminds me a lot of Subcomandante Marcos and the Zapatistas, another admired group.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 29 2026 6:21 utc | 288

Has Turkey quit shipping oil to Israel?kabuki theater?

  • Volume and Sources: In 2025, Israel’s imports of Azerbaijani oil from Turkey’s Ceyhan port reached a three-year high, with shipments jumping 31% year-on-year to 94,000 barrels per day.  Azerbaijan accounted for 46.4% of Israel’s total oil imports last year, surpassing Russia. 
  • Covert Logistics: To bypass the embargo, tankers often switch off their Automatic Identification System (AIS) trackers and signal false destinations (such as Egypt or Cyprus) before discharging crude at Israeli ports like Ashkelon and Haifa
  • Official Denials vs. Data: Turkish authorities deny facilitating these shipments, stating that BOTAS (the state pipeline operator) is not involved in sales and that exporters respect the ban.  However, shipping data from firms like Kpler and Vortexa, along with satellite imagery, confirms that roughly 40% of Israel’s annual oil consumption passes through Turkish infrastructure. 

Posted by: Goldhoarder | Jun 29 2026 7:06 utc | 289

Whilst cynicism as critical inquiry, asking crucial questions and being critical but open to answers, is indeed integral to empowering one’s full humanity. But if taken to an extreme it can result in the opposite: despondency, passiveness, isolation and societal breakdown.  That is what I meant. 
Posted by: suzan | Jun 29 2026 3:46 utc | 284
 
Everything taken to the extreme brings problems. Anything to the extreme from biased ungrounded hopium to distressed depression or a manic fantasy comes with issues and yet this too is an integral part of being human. And who are you judge others anyway?
 
From here it looks much more like you’re drawing a false symmetry where this ancient Cynicism is opined as good, whereas modern Cynicism is deemed bad, and despite the dire state of the world. Both positions are opposite “extremes” of the same thing. That might sound like a neat, tidy package that feels wise but is actually quite shallow imo.
 
But as a lecture it’s top shelf.

Posted by: Kobayashi Maru | Jun 29 2026 7:37 utc | 290

Cynicism happens to be an integral part of “humanity”.Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 28 2026 20:04 utc | 271
 
[…] Whilst cynicism as critical inquiry, asking crucial questions and being critical but open to answers, is indeed integral to empowering one’s full humanity. But if taken to an extreme it can result in the opposite: despondency, passiveness, isolation and societal breakdown.  That is what I meant. 
Posted by: suzan | Jun 29 2026 3:46 utc | 284
 
Everything taken to extremes brings problems. Anything from biased ideologies, political tribalism, ungrounded hopium to distressed depression or a dreamy manic fantasy comes with issues. Yet this too is an integral part of being human. And who are you judge others anyway?
 
From here it looks like you’re drawing a false symmetry of the ancient Cynicism is opined as good, whereas modern Cynicism is deemed bad. And that despite the dire state of the world. Both positions are opposite “extremes” of the same thing. That might sound like a neat, tidy philosophical package that feels wise but is actually quite shallow imo.
 
But as a lecture it’s top shelf. Love it. 

Posted by: Heroic Stoic | Jun 29 2026 8:11 utc | 291

Circa 1979, FWIW. Ma Saalem
Posted by: Harmonic Resonance | Jun 29 2026 4:46 utc | 285

Thanks for the reply HR. Yikes, college in 1979? That makes you a senior.
 
 

Iranian and Turkish friends in college used two insult words sparingly.  Koshkish and Kosol. 

 
 
HR, these two word – misspelled, but good memory on your part – have to do female genitalia – kos.
 
Kos-kesh, litterally meaning someone who carries kos, a pimp, and kos-khol, well kind of hard to explain – crazy kos, crazy person.
 
Someone said: learn Chinese, it’s the way of the future.
I’d say: learn Farsi, it’s the way of the future. Hope to educate the bar with more offerings later.
 
Re Ma Saalem: better spelling would be: ma’ salaam – I’m sure some will protest still.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jun 29 2026 12:37 utc | 292

@ Prunella Scales | Jun 29 2026 5:47 utc | 287
 
i hope you are able to make a positive difference in all your actions here and elsewhere… i am not sure just how to read your overall post content and am getting mixed signals so we’ll see how it develops…

Posted by: james | Jun 29 2026 14:40 utc | 293

..A Lebanese colleague would refer to attractive women as “Couscous” after the wheat dish.  ..
Posted by: Harmonic Resonance | Jun 29 2026 4:46 utc | 285

 
That’s what you and others might have thought. I bet he was saying kuskus. Did your colleague ever say it around Middle Eastern women – I bet not!
 
 

Posted by: tucenz | Jun 29 2026 17:44 utc | 294

Test 

Posted by: AchievingEscapeVelocity | Jul 1 2026 1:43 utc | 295