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June 1, 2026
War On Iran: After Israel Threatened Beirut Iran Announced To Further Reduce Global Oil Supplies 

The Israeli government, pushed by its Zionazis and with the support of the White House, has announced that it will attack the Dahiyeh suburb of Beirut. Dahiyeh is normal civil neighborhood which is claimed to have a Shia majority with sympathies for Hizbullah.

Israel says it will renew strikes on Hezbollah in Beirut after lobbying for US green lightTimes of Israel

Israel announced Monday morning that it would renew strikes on Hezbollah’s stronghold in southern Beirut, after significantly curtailing attacks on the Lebanese capital for weeks at the request of US President Donald Trump’s administration, …

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Israel Katz said in a joint statement that they had instructed the Israel Defense Forces to strike Hezbollah targets in Beirut’s southern suburbs.

Reports had earlier said Israel was lobbying the US to grant permission to resume massive strikes on the terror group’s stronghold, and that an American official had hinted that such a green light could be coming.

Lebanon is part of the crumbling ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran.

Iran’s foreign minister warned of the consequences of such a severe breach of the ceasefire:

Seyed Abbas Araghchi @araghchi – 11:04 UTC · Jun 1, 2026

For immediate attention:

The ceasefire between Iran and the US is unequivocally a ceasefire on all fronts, including in Lebanon.

Its violation on one front is a violation of the ceasefire on all fronts.

The US and Israel are responsible for the consequences of any violation.

In reaction to the Israeli announcement Iran has stopped all negotiations and threatened to respond in kind.

Hamidreza Azizi @HamidRezaAz – 13:28 UTC · Jun 1, 2026

Tasnim News Agency – affiliated with the IRGC – reports that #Iran’s negotiating team is suspending the exchange of texts and messages with the US through mediator Pakistan, citing ongoing Israeli military operations in #Lebanon.

Tehran’s stated ground is that Lebanon was a precondition for any ceasefire arrangement, and that arrangement has now been violated. Iranian negotiators say talks will not resume until Israeli operations Lebanon stop and Israeli forces withdraw from occupied Lebanese territory.

The announcement also carries a threat: full closure of the Strait of Hormuz – after some incremental ease of transit over the past couple of weeks – and “activation of the Bab al-Mandab front” as punitive measures against Israel and its allies.

Lebanon matters inside Iran. The Iranian leadership can not ignore what is happening there.

Currently some 15% of the regular global oil supplies are blocked in the Strait of Hormuz. Circumventing that blockade through its east-west pipeline Saudi Arabia is currently exporting some 4-5 million barrels per day through its Red Sea harbor Yanbu and Bab el-Mandab.


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I had earlier describe how the closure of Bab el Mandab would hurt shipping and oil supplies:

Marine Traffic shows a large number of Very Large Crude Carriers (VLCCs) near Yanbu waiting to be loaded. With the Red Sea exit to the south closed at the Bab al Mandeb (Gate of Tears) these carriers are, as I had predicted a month ago, caught in a trap. They are too big to escape north through the Suez Channel.


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Should Iran, with the help of Ansrullah in Yemen, order the closure of Bab el Mandab the global oil supplies would sink by another 4-5%.

So far a buffer of oil supplies in storage had allowed for consumption of oil beyond the current supplies. While prices had increased there were no shortages. Exxon and other oil companies have recently warned that all available buffers are running empty.

We have not yet seen the demand destruction necessary to balance global oil supplies and consumption. The real market  crunch will come within the next few weeks. Prices for crude oil and its products are expected to increase sharply until demand has decreased by 15 to 20% and caught up with supplies.

Any closure of Bab el Mandab will result in even higher oil prices and less pump supplies.

It is high time for the White House to acknowledge that there is no way out but to make peace with Iran.

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“Back then mimeographed copies were greasy to the feel, smelled (I can remember the smell) and were kind of purple and a bit out of focus.”
 
thats a ditto machine, not quite a mimeograph.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jun 2 2026 16:28 utc | 301

Posted by: BM | Jun 2 2026 16:11 utc | 302
 
I think it is a US psyop to manufacture support for bombing Iran; and as bonus to tarnish the reputations of Larry Johnson and Pepe Escobar
 
I had similar feelings while listening to them. Yeah, a little too much ‘breaking news’
 
Also, I found Larry and Pepe uncharacteristically cautious.

Posted by: john | Jun 2 2026 16:30 utc | 302

see the two photos at the second link
 
see the 54-second video at the third link
 
 
 
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/2061742410082705822
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺  @ejmalrai 
 
Many analysts are asked: Why did Iran not intervene earlier, in previous weeks, to impose the new rule of engagement on Israe: dayihey of Beirut in exchange of reganing the war? 
 
The answer is simple: 
1. The US gave the green light to Israel to divide Iran from Lebanon. 
2. Iran needed time to be ready to fight against Israel, and Iran was fully aware that hitting the occupied northern Palestine would bring the US into the battle. Now Iran is ready to fight both enemies.
 
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https://x.com/SprinterPress/status/2061391314831212848
S p r i n t e r  @SprinterPress 
 
🇮🇷 A photo that makes everyone’s eyes well up with tears when they look at it. 
 
A father who sleeps next to the grave of his son, who was killed by the US and Israeli regimes in a school in the city of Minab, every night.
 
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https://x.com/sahouraxo/status/2061827666634809416
sarah  @sahouraxo 
 
Horrific scenes from Tyre, South Lebanon. 
Israel is raining bombs on civilian areas in Bourj al-Shamali — wiping out residential block after residential block.
Rescue teams are still searching under the rubble for people buried alive.
This is not a ceasefire.
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 2 2026 16:40 utc | 303

@302 BM

I am doubtful that those quoted have the story, but even if so to introduce Russia as culprit somehow would not be unexpected.

I think the truth of what is going on, who is who and associated schemes, is probably even freakier, might well also involve Russia or Russians.

Most states have great difficulty keeping tabs on their own activities or of their nationals, are reliant on departments that are as good as independent, that are able to manage intelligence information and its presentation to suit;that is what they are designed and trained to do, and the methodology can be applied to own government and its attempts at oversight.

When we look at UN or sarscov2, we are able to witness some of the hidden transnational structures in action for example.

It’s all deep end though, and not the sort of place to hang-out either to be honest; enough subterfuge, chaotic misdirection, assassination etc. to ruin anyone’s day.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 2 2026 16:43 utc | 304

What I cant see is the US or Iran agreeing to anything substantive.  Neither US or Iranian core demands match.   Worse Israel can always start bombing something to make agreements impossible. 
Then there’s the oil stocks going down on top of a second major artery closing if the houthis step in.  Russia is under pressure from ship seizures and Ukrainian strikes as well.  Dropping demand to match lower output implies a direct and immediate reduction in economic size never mind a negative growth rate over time.
Every major actor in the world is going to come under pressure, if Trump or Iran dont surrender.  But if Trump surrenders his blockade Iran still controls Hormuz and will presumably get its reparations from it.
If Iran surrenders then it might put their whole nation into chaos and enemy occupation. 
 
So not really likely.
 
Now if the oil problems continue what does immediate economic contraction mean?  It means hockey stick prices increases followed by shortages of almost anything.  Bankruptcies all the money disappears and things get cheaper but it dont matter.  Great depression like but worse because of critical resources shortages.
 
Its desperate.   What options exist?  Make the oil flow again, or take from others, or just make due with less.  Since charging the Iranian mountains from the persian gulf sounds tough, and the others who have the oil(or other stuff) worth taking will also have more weapons.
 
So, make due with less and be well armed enough to be not worth it.  
 
Unless you happen to control an armed force on top of a valuable stretch of land.  Then you do what has to be done.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jun 2 2026 16:51 utc | 305

“Back then mimeographed copies were greasy to the feel, smelled (I can remember the smell) and were kind of purple and a bit out of focus.” thats a ditto machine, not quite a mimeograph.
Posted by: Not Ewe | Jun 2 2026 16:28 utc | 305

Thanks for being a curmudgeon  🙂  
 
I looked up ditto vs mimeograph. Interesting history for those that care.  https://www.timesmojo.com/what-is-the-difference-between-mimeograph-and-ditto/  
I also checked some spellings Rudolf Kastner is sometimes spelled Kasztner. And the curmudgeon was Malchiel Gruenwald (multiple alternate spellings on that one).
The word that I had been trouble thinking of was ‘pamphlet’. History records that he printed his pamphlets with mimeograph. History doesn’t always get it right, as we all know.
Hay! I found one of his pamphlets up for auction. https://www.kedem-auctions.com/en/letters-my-mizrahi-friends-malchiel-gruenwald archive: https://archive.ph/J286a  
You can click on the image to get a better look at the pamphlet. Maybe it has aged, I don’t see purple.
 

Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 2 2026 16:58 utc | 306

Posted by: BM | Jun 2 2026 16:11 utc | 302
 
Posted by: john | Jun 2 2026 16:30 utc | 306
 
Posted by: Ornot | Jun 2 2026 16:43 utc | 308
 
Like many posters, my first thought upon reading Larry Johnson’s comments about a possible nuclear explosion in Iran was outright rejection.
 
This gives the impression that a CIA agent is always a CIA agent, and that Larry, in collaboration with others, was fabricating a justification for Trump and Netanyahu’s actions seems the most obvious explanation.
 
But when Russia was mentioned, it reminded me of an event whose future developments I had promised myself I would monitor.
 
During a meeting with Sergey Lavrov just after the start of the aggression against Iran, the Gulf states requested Russia’s support for a UN resolution condemning Iran’s so-called “unprovoked attack” against its neighbors.
 
The seasoned diplomat could not hide his anger at the duplicity of those who had offered their territories to attack Iran and refused to condemn the massacre of the children of Minab.
 
He then said something cryptic, which perhaps takes on its full meaning today.
 
“Russia will do everything possible to create an atmosphere that makes US and Israeli operations against Iran impossible,” Lavrov said.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UijhP31VqkY
 
What could Russia do to make any attack on Iran impossible? Giving them the keys to nuclear power perhaps?
So this hypothesis is not so dumb after all.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 2 2026 17:36 utc | 307

Further it could be the case that they had made a customised virus to always hook on to my name, for unknown reasons.
 
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 2 2026 7:50 utc | 224
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Ah, there it is, the magical conspiratorial mindset of yours.
“They” concocted a special virus just to infect me! Because reasons.
Just like the rest of your thinking, where everything that happens in the world is orchestrated by Perfidious Albion.
 
BTW, you mentioned that you thought I was put off by your opposition to Marxism. I must admit that I haven’t noticed that in your posts; perhaps that says more about me than you that I missed that.
 
My main objections to your thinking have already been stated several times. You’re mired in this baroque conspiratorial mindset where everything important in the world is the result of hidden machinery that only a select few like you and the authors you continually refer to are aware of.
 
Hogwash. Not that there aren’t plots and hidden agendas; there certainly are. But not everything is attributable to the Rosicrucians or the Bildebergers or the Freemasons or Skull and Bones or any of those murky subterranean covens of political witchcraft.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 2 2026 17:44 utc | 308

@302. BM
 
I have heard it rumored, Larry Johnson on Nima that Pakistan offered its nuclear umbrella much like it offered Saudi Arabia.  In that case?
 
I heard Larry Johnson alluded to Iran fabricating its own A bombs.
 
My thinking what if Iran has nukes and missiles is not the end of the world for west Asia.
 
The world would be safer if IDF Sampson option were gone.
 
 

Posted by: paddy | Jun 2 2026 17:52 utc | 309

@313. That is Larry Wilkerson with Nima.
 
Second sentence is Johnson 

Posted by: paddy | Jun 2 2026 17:55 utc | 310

@311 Sebgo

The idea is not dumb, it has to be considered a possibility that Iran already has nuclear weapons even. This is not voiced because it would be speculative and used to feed anti Iran narrative, and would also be disrespectful of Iran honour in its stated positions.

That Russia is involved, I would be guessing where or how. All that comes to mind is the alleged Iranian ICBM test over Russia and that there is some sharing of technological know-how in military matters.

What is occuring vs what we are presented by, or is released to, media is often very different, and that goes for any country. Few if any reveal the actual state of their organisational activity, their decision options, related reasoning, and so on, and especially not in real time.

What we are usually presented with is end choices and whatever reasoning to those is passable.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 2 2026 17:56 utc | 311

Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 2 2026 17:36 utc | 311
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Just making cryptic statements would only incite US and Israel to go on with the aggression against Iran. Or Iran has the bomb and shows it and everything could stop or it only hides a possibility with or without assistance of Russia (or China or whoever else) and it asks to be bombed.

Posted by: scc | Jun 2 2026 18:15 utc | 312

@Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 2 2026 15:54 utc | 300
 
Utter misrepresentation of a source. I read Cynthia, but I always have to be conscious that she does play games with her sources and you have to wade through quite a bit of chaff to get at the wheat. You are also doing the same but even more so to feed a fantastical worldview, as the reference refers to some interactions which you then try to spin into a “Colour Revolution”. You are welcome to the imaginary world in your head, I have no need to further interact with it.

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jun 2 2026 18:25 utc | 313

If the Iranians have nukes good for them. It will make the Middle East a safer place, its the US and Israelis who are disruptive.

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jun 2 2026 18:26 utc | 314

@petergrfstrm, question:
 
Let’s say for the sake of discussion that what you say about the historical interference in global affairs by Perfidious Albion is correct.
 
That being the case, is that really relevant today?
You believe that they orchestrated much of the malfeasance in the Middle East and other places. OK, granted for the sake of discussion.
 
But do you believe that they still have this level of control over global affairs? Not in the 19th century but today?
 
If not, then isn’t this whole area of inquiry really just a historical curiosity, with not much relevance to, say, Israel’s current unhinged rampages in the region?
 
In other words, is all that really worth fighting and dying over?

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 2 2026 18:29 utc | 315

@Roger Boyd | Jun 2 2026 18:25 utc | 317
So you dont accept what Mica Alpaugh writes about the Fremch Jacobins confirming that they were lets call it ‘mentored’ by the London Revolution Society? Note that I gave you the link.
You sound upset and refer to somebody who imagines something but you avoid to comment about the material I referred to.
That is a bit insulting since I am only referring to an academic work not to any inner images.
 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 2 2026 18:38 utc | 316

@George the Zeroth | Jun 2 2026 18:29 utc | 319
 
Aas long as it is suppressed info it doesnt only refer to the past but it also should raise a warning about how much is concealed. I am sure Britain today doesnt have the same power since I believe it partly distributed its power to the US. All the thinktanks grew etc. Britains economy decreased but the Offshore empire took its place.
 
But since I have read many articles at Larouchepub covering times until relatively recently and there was plenty of information about British activitities not covered much elsewhere my conclusion is that the US/UK have a strong control over opinionmaking.
 
About whether this matter is as important as Israels evil activities. Those are different matters. I dont see why one cannot cover both. 
 
And since the whole story about the cult of Zionism is still largely suppressed and distorted it merits to remind people about it.
 
It is a western colonial project. And the colony is rewarded for being bad. It is an insanity but most critics ignore that aspect.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 2 2026 19:02 utc | 317

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 2 2026 18:29 utc | 319
 
When a wild animal has torn its prey to pieces, is the most important thing to know which incisor, canine, or molar caused the most damage?
 
The globalist group of predators is a unified whole, working in coordination and using the often formal distinctions between the states where they are dispersed to their advantage.
 
American administrations are happy to accuse Israel of their misdeeds, and Israel is happy to use the US as a pretext for doing certain things.
 
Trump asked Israel to attack Lebanon because he believed it would extract concessions from Iran.
Israel is happy to go there to conceal its defeat in Iran and maintain the myth of Greater Israel, so that the current coalition remains in power and Netanyahu stays out of prison.
It’s a perfectly oiled machine; all the supposed disagreements are just for show.
 
More generally, in the face of the rest of the world, the game expands to include former powers like the United Kingdom and intangible entities like the “deep state” or the MIC, which are used to mitigate and obscure responsibility.
 
All of this is a smokescreen to try and obscure who is responsible, by making us believe it’s a single nation-state, or a mythical and mysterious organization, when the actors are right under our noses.
 
Therefore, the dismantling of this state is called for as a “solution,” thus guaranteeing impunity to the individuals who have blood on their hands.
 
It doesn’t matter who is the head, the tail, or the ear of the bloodthirsty beast. It must be brought down to stop doing harm.
 
And this will be done through individual accountability and punishment, not by scattering ferocious beasts across the globe to spread their venom.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 2 2026 19:02 utc | 318

It is a western colonial project. And the colony is rewarded for being bad.
 
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 2 2026 19:02 utc | 321
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Yes. And yes.
 
So why don’t you just leave it at that? (And read the post by Sebgo directly above this one.)
 
Just forget all that convoluted hokey mysterioso conspiratorial crap and just focus on what’s actually happening now right in front of all our eyes and discuss what, if anything, can be done about it.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 2 2026 19:14 utc | 319

Germans who failed to oppose Nazi crimes might not bear responsibility if they could demo ignorance.
That logic does not apply to Israelis of today.  The current Nazi gang in Israel indiscriminately murders people of Arab descent and also performs acts of heinous collective punishment.  Guilt falls on all those who abet or support Israhell.

Posted by: RAM | Jun 2 2026 19:47 utc | 320

You could skip your Tourette dance belittling what I have been saying, whatever you mean by that oddity. But to answer: The US needs to be taken down. Who is going to do that? Neither Russia nor China volunteer do do it. I dont blame them but unless they oppose the US more the evil will go on.I assume the Europeans are completely brainwashed and impossible to reach. Despite the French protest today about Lebanon’. I think it is for the record not intended to have any consequences. 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 2 2026 19:59 utc | 321

Monday Larry Johnson said the next time they’ll take out the Israeli air fields.  Why didn’t they do that the first time? Is the IRGC also being limited or do they simply not have the capability?
 
Posted by: EoinW | Jun 2 2026 10:33 utc | 242
 

Russia has fired salvos at the Starokonstatinov airfield for years now, and it is still in operation.

Posted by: persiflo | Jun 2 2026 20:01 utc | 322

This gives the impression that a CIA agent is always a CIA agent, and that Larry, in collaboration with others, was fabricating a justification for Trump and Netanyahu’s actions seems the most obvious explanation.
 
Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 2 2026 17:36 utc | 311

I know what you mean about Johnson – he loves to talk about what ‘his contacts know’…often the predictions don’t pan out.
 
The figures on the alt-media circuit have to be measured by their performance around the final collapse of Syria and the Assad government. Very few saw it coming, fewer still predicted anything other than another smiting of the head choppers by the SAA, with help from the Russians and the Iranians.
 
Well, that did not happen and these pundit’s prognostications need to be taken with a large grain of salt.
 
That doesn’t mean they have any particular agenda (other than getting attention), just that they often prefer to fill airtime with data of a speculative nature.
 
Caveat emptor.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 2 2026 20:11 utc | 323

The Israeli War Cabinet of Bibi, Katz, Smotrich and Gvir has just given DJT the collective middle finger.
 
Today they attacked Southern Lebanon and killed 11 civilians………………so much for the hard ceasefire.
 
The IDF has violated the ‘ceasefires’ over 2000 times in Gaza and Lebanon, murdering over 5000 civilians, proof positive the IDF only answers to the war criminals in occupied Lod………..

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 2 2026 20:16 utc | 324

A What could Russia do to make any attack on Iran impossible?
 
B Giving them the keys to nuclear power perhaps?
 
So this hypothesis is not so dumb after all.
 
Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 2 2026 17:36 utc | 311

 
Firstly, I’m not convinced that B follows from A and nothing else.
 
Secondly, it would guarantee a rush to nuclear status across West Asia from Turkey to Oman.
 
I don’t think over the long term the successor Gulf monarchs could be relied upon to use (or not use) them wisely.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 2 2026 20:17 utc | 325

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 2 2026 18:29 utc | 319
 

@petergrfstrm, question:Let’s say for the sake of discussion that what you say about the historical interference in global affairs by Perfidious Albion is correct.That being the case, is that really relevant today?

 
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Good observation, but I respectfully suggest it goes back further to the time of the Roman Senatorial Families, and later, the Doge of Venice.  Old money, realllly old money, here.  Well before the Rottenkinder.

Posted by: Local Resonator | Jun 2 2026 20:36 utc | 326

Posted by: Local Resonator | Jun 2 2026 20:36 utc | 330
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Are you by any chance a relative of Local Oscillator?

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 2 2026 20:40 utc | 327

Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 2 2026 16:05 utc | 301
You may be referring to a Gastetner Press. My infant/primary school still used them in the 70s-80s.
Purplish ink colour, and you never forget that smell.
I’ve been predicting for several years now that we’ll soon be back to passing handbills around, and old photocopiers/printers will become highly prized possessions. I hadn’t thought of the Gastetner at the time, but they’d do the job amicably.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Jun 2 2026 20:53 utc | 328

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 2 2026 20:17 utc | 329
 
I have given an opinion about an hypothesis made by others.
 
I said that given Lavrov words three months ago, an hypothesis made by Larry Johnson is not impossible.
 
I didn’t make a falsely logical deduction and state something as a fact as you imply.
 
Talking about “wisdom” and nuclear weapons, you’re quite amusing.
 
You speak as if some “high moral authority” somewhere in the world decides who should have what power based on their “good behavior.”
That makes no sense and is even contrary to historical experience.
 
The US wasn’t the most moral actor when it first acquired the nuclear bomb. It demonstrated this by bombing civilian targets.
But we know they narrowly defeated Nazi Germany; it could have been the other way around.
Israel isn’t the most moral actor, nor is India, nor Pakistan.
 
And a seemingly reliable actor today could see a less reputable regime come to power.
This is the case with Russia; there’s nothing to say that an amoral warmonger couldn’t come to power in Moscow.
 
Iranian leaders have stated that Saudi Arabia had already acquired the nuclear bomb clandestinely and that all the major powers knew it. Is MBD reliable and ethical?
 
The point is to find a balance of power that forces reckless aggressors to make peace, not to make judgments or bets on the future.
 
Yet, today, Iran has demonstrated at great cost that it is a responsible actor capable of restraint even in the face of the worst extremes and provocation.
Among the nine countries that already possess nuclear weapons, it would be difficult to find many more responsible.
 
I am against nuclear proliferation, not on principle, but precisely because of the risk of using this devastating weapon depending on a future government, which is impossible to predict.
 
But if countries are to have them, Iran seems to me a more respectable candidate than Israel, and even Pakistan, France, or India.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 2 2026 20:57 utc | 329

Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 2 2026 20:57 utc | 333
 
I wrote:

 
“But we know they narrowly defeated Nazi Germany”

 
It must be understood that the USA beat Nazi Germany  in the race for nuclear weapons.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 2 2026 21:02 utc | 330

RP 285 – Exactly, the Lavender program is responsible for over 200,000 civilian murders in Gaza.
 
Anyone who ever joined the political party of Hamas was a Lavender target including doctors, nurses, firefighters, police officers, emt’s, paramedics, food aid workers, med clinic workers.  This is Israeli high tech blood lust on display for all to see.
 
These AI Data centers are evil incarnate………….all part of Orwellian plans of tech billionaire class……….

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 2 2026 21:06 utc | 331

Oups… MBD Should be read “MBS” for Mohamed Ben Salman in Saoudi Arabia.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 2 2026 21:07 utc | 332

You may be referring to a Gastetner Press. My infant/primary school still used them in the 70s-80s.Purplish ink colour, and you never forget that smell.
I’ve been predicting for several years now that we’ll soon be back to passing handbills around, and old photocopiers/printers will become highly prized possessions. I hadn’t thought of the Gastetner at the time, but they’d do the job amicably.
 
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Jun 2 2026 20:53 utc | 332
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Gestetner, not Gastetner.
Them’s is good old mimeographs. I remember that smell too. Mmm; good old aromatic hydrocarbon solvent, probably pretty bad for you.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 2 2026 21:07 utc | 333

The US wasn’t the most moral actor when it first acquired the nuclear bomb. It demonstrated this by bombing civilian targets.But we know they narrowly defeated Nazi Germany; it could have been the other way around.
 
Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 2 2026 20:57 utc | 333
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But please, let’s never forget that it was really the USSR that defeated the Nazis. With our (U.S.) assistance, but they took the brunt of their assaults by far.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 2 2026 21:10 utc | 334

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 2 2026 21:07 utc | 337
Thanks for the correction.
I do wonder what the effect upon the long term health of the ladies doing that printing. 
 
Curiously enough, the Wikipedia page for Gestetner has an image of a model 320 (which looks identical to the one I remember) and on the output tray is a pamphlet in Hebrew & English.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Jun 2 2026 21:17 utc | 335

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 2 2026 21:10 utc | 338
 
See my @334…

Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 2 2026 21:17 utc | 336

Curiously enough, the Wikipedia page for Gestetner has an image of a model 320 (which looks identical to the one I remember) and on the output tray is a pamphlet in Hebrew & English.
 
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Jun 2 2026 21:17 utc | 339
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Continuing the off-topic ramble (’cause we’re interested in this):
 
That machine, the 320, looks suspiciously to me like an offset duplicator, not a mimeograph (technically, a “spirit duplicator”).
 
I know the offset 320, the A.B. Dick machine, as it was the first “offset press” I learned to run, back in the 1970s. It was the baby tabletop version of the 360, which was a ubiquitous fixture in just about every job printing shop in North America. And the copy in the output tray is definitely not mimeograph, which is fuzzy blue, but nice crisp black, which suggests it’s offset.
 
(For you non-printers out there: “offset” refers to offset lithography, which uses a an inked plate to print from. The image areas on the plate are receptive to the oil-based ink, while the non-printing areas are receptive to water, which keeps the ink from sticking to them. “Offset” refers to how the image isn’t printed directly onto the paper but prints on a rubber-covered “blanket” cylinder which then transfers the ink to the paper.)
 
And don’t call them “presses”. They’re “duplicators”, not real printing presses, even though they do the same job. A press is generally larger (duplicators go up to about 11″x 17″), has a much larger inking system with more “form rollers” (the ink rollers that contact the plate) and has these things called “bearers” which the 3 cylinders—plate, blanket and impression—ride on, keeping them in alignment and maintaining high pressure.
 
Anyhow.
 
BTW, ironic about that copy in the tray (“Fighters for the Freedom of Israel”), eh?

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 2 2026 21:30 utc | 337

You speak as if some “high moral authority” somewhere in the world decides who should have what power based on their “good behavior.”That makes no sense and is even contrary to historical experience.The US wasn’t the most moral actor when it first acquired the nuclear bomb. It demonstrated this by bombing civilian targets.But we know they narrowly defeated Nazi Germany; it could have been the other way around.Israel isn’t the most moral actor, nor is India, nor Pakistan.
Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 2 2026 20:57 utc | 333

The problem is that there is no higher moral authority.
 
Just observe the nuclear megalomania that afflicted the US post 1945, only slightly tempered by the USSR’s  acquisition in 1952, their leaders and military still haven’t recovered.
 
For a long time people truly understood the destructive power of these things and treated them with some seriousness.
 
I’m not worried about Iran having them – they have demonstrated more morality in war than most so-called advanced nations.
 
Some of the Gulf autocrats, especially a spoiled, oppressive Crown Prince – not so much, or for that matter some Israeli PM with a messianic mission to accomplish.
 
No need for me to be morally superior about who should have or have not, it only takes one leader with an itchy trigger finger to set the ball rolling for al of us.
 

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 2 2026 21:47 utc | 338

Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 2 2026 16:05 utc | 301
 

Just another sign in a flurry of other hand bills.That was how it was once done, if you wanted to get the word out. That day is returning.The internet is going to be nothing but a source of control for those with power.
 
Modern day printers hide identification info in them so people will have to go manual if they want to create posters.
 
Gestetner … does the Russian word “Samizdat” ring a bell?

 

samizdat /ˈsämēzdat/

 

Samizdat refers to the clandestine practice of reproducing and circulating censored, government-suppressed literature and media in Soviet-bloc countries. Coined in the late 1950s, the term translates literally to “self-publishing.” It became a vital lifeline for dissidents seeking to bypass strict state censorship. [1, 2, 3]

 
I own at least one “manual typewriter” …

Posted by: jonku | Jun 2 2026 21:48 utc | 339

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 2 2026 21:47 utc | 342
Which is a long winded way of saying RF giving IRI nukes is a not good idea.
 
I doubt RF would offer them, I doubt IRI would accept them.
 
Thankfully.
 

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 2 2026 21:54 utc | 340

still OT …
 
As far as I recall, the Gestetner machines were hand-cranked, and the original was often typed into a plastic stencil sheet that left holes from each letter, allowing the fluid to flow to the paper as it went through the machine. Thus the blurriness.
 
So one might stockpile printing paper, machines and the stencils required if one intends to be a modern-day Ben Franklin. And maybe make friends with secretaries (“personal assistants” who know how to type) and a journalist or two. Maybe a couple young ones to crank, stack and distribute.No need to run the whole show oneself!

Posted by: jonku | Jun 2 2026 21:56 utc | 341

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 2 2026 21:30 utc | 341
 
Thanks George the Zeroth.
You’re a wealth of information on the topic. I shall leave the OT there, but appreciate your input.
 
Back to the daily distress of the multi front genocide…I guess.
 
From the river to the sea!

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Jun 2 2026 22:13 utc | 342

Back to the daily distress of the multi front genocide…I guess. From the river to the sea!
 
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Jun 2 2026 22:13 utc | 346
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Yes.
May thousands of olive trees once again bloom there one day.
Tended by their rightful owners, not their oppressors.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 2 2026 22:18 utc | 343

Posted by: jonku | Jun 2 2026 21:56 utc | 345
 
Thanks for chipping in, Jonku.
Samizdat seems like a sound choice for a near future hobby. Much to ponder…

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Jun 2 2026 22:21 utc | 344

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 2 2026 21:54 utc | 344
 
 
Yet… The infernal duo of the US and Israel attacked Iran for the third time in an unprovoked act of aggression in less than a year.
 
To this must be added the attempted color revolutions, which have also resulted in thousands of deaths.
 
I can therefore understand Russia’s exasperation last March at the behavior of two nuclear powers toward a friendly country already the victim of so many injustices.
 
The attitude of the aggressors and their accomplices in the Gulf states seemed to indicate that they fully intended to relentlessly attack Iran until its destruction.
 
If Russia were to decide to turn Iran into a new North Korea, which the hegemon has refrained from attacking directly, this would be neither surprising nor scandalous in my opinion.
 
It is simply very detrimental to the idea of non-proliferation and increases the risk of the actual use of this weapon in the future.
 
But we already know how the US deploys its nuclear weapons around the world on the territories of its allies, so there’s really nothing new here.
 
However, it’s not out of the question that if Russia decides to do this, it could be accompanied by restrictive measures, as in Belarus.
That is to say a nuclear explosion takes place in Iran but the keys remain in russian hands.
 
But anyway that would truly be “game over” for the aggressors.
 
The remaining dilemma for Trump and his genocidal friend is: how to hide the big, red, dripping noses of the world’s two biggest, undisciplined bullies?

Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 2 2026 22:25 utc | 345

Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 2 2026 22:25 utc | 349
 
Hmmm, maybe there is some wishful thinking going on here.
 
Whilst I understand the sentiment, reality might produce some wildly unpredictable and different outcomes.
 
Let’s see if the Escobar/Johnson rumour has any truth to it first.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 2 2026 22:54 utc | 346

Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 2 2026 22:25 utc | 349
 
Though I would add the US certainly seemed to learn absolutely nothing from the outcome they precipitated in North Korea.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 2 2026 22:57 utc | 347

Posted by: Local Resonator | Jun 2 2026 20:36 utc | 330======================================= Are you by any chance a relative of Local Oscillator?
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 2 2026 20:40 utc | 331
 
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I wondered the same thing.
 
It turns out that if you run Local Oscillator through an Inverse Laplace Transform you’ll find the complex conjugate of Local Resonator. They could both be unaware of each other, and themselves, through quantum interference effects which over-ride the more subtle quantum entanglement of entities from disparate regions of the multiverse.

Posted by: General Factotum | Jun 3 2026 0:12 utc | 348

Though I would add the US certainly seemed to learn absolutely nothing from the outcome they precipitated in North Korea.
 
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 2 2026 22:57 utc | 351

 
Real men don’t learn. Learning is for sissies and Untermenschen.
 
(Yes, I’m channeling.)

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 3 2026 1:04 utc | 349

Trump’s Supposed Shit-Fit w/Netanyahu
 
Here’s the Axios article that “broke” this story (archived, no paywall): https://archive.ph/wmpHn
 
I’ve done some minimal research (i.e., online search) and it looks to me as if every other news article on this (and there are many, lots of “reputable” Western outlets) is based on the Axios article.
 
I have no friggin’ idea who Axios is, what their biases are or how reliable a source they are. Anyone?

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 3 2026 1:23 utc | 350

@ George the Zeroth | Jun 3 2026 1:23 utc | 355
 
Axios doesn’t admit to any political orientation, but my Dim-leaning acquaintances post Axios links all the time, whereas my Rethug-leaning acquaintances never do. 

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 3 2026 1:41 utc | 351

Axios doesn’t admit to any political orientation, 
Posted by: malenkov | Jun 3 2026 1:41 utc | 356
 
Axios is a Mossad operation run by one Barak Ravid, an ex unit 8200 operative.
 
Joo media, again.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 3 2026 4:49 utc | 352

“But we know they narrowly defeated Nazi Germany; it could have been the other way around.”
@Sebgo | Jun 2 2026 20:57 utc | 333
Perhaps you are thinking about the Ardenner Offensive?
I learned that the anglosaxons needed more time to make deals with Nazi Germany so they let Germany advance more easily for some time. In other words perhaps it couldnt have been the other way round in that particular case, since when the anglosaxons make deals it usually is for their own benefits. Unfortunately I dont remember what the deal was  about. But I know the anglosaxons were looking for nazi gold towards the end of the war.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 3 2026 5:38 utc | 353

@George the Zeroth | Jun 3 2026 5:41 utc | 359
It is most likely true. And Horse shit has good uses.
Towards the end of the war there were undoubtedly secret deals with all sides. In particular those who had captured Gold like Japan.
 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 3 2026 5:51 utc | 354

It is most likely true. 
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 3 2026 5:51 utc | 360
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So apparently even you have some doubts about all this.
That’s a good sign.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 3 2026 6:31 utc | 355

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 2 2026 22:57 utc | 351
 

Though I would add the US certainly seemed to learn absolutely nothing from the outcome they precipitated in North Korea.

 
When it comes to America, you can’t say anything because so little makes sense.
 
No matter how hard you try to find rational objectives in their actions, you end up concluding that each time, they’ve shot themselves “somewhere higher than in the foot”, to quote Putin.
 
They accuse China today of “overcapacity.”
But it was they who wanted and orchestrated the offshoring.
 
It was they who launched the war over access to technologies and inputs, provoking the rare earth crisis with China.
 
And the irony is that China had tried some years sooner to get them to develop their own rare earth refining chain.
They refused and took the Chinese to the WTO to remain their sole source.
 
They used force to try to control Venezuelan oil.
But it was they who sanctioned that oil and any American company that bought it or invested in it.
 
They knew perfectly well they needed that heavy oil, but preferred to see Venezuelan oil remain underground and buy far away, until the country was forced to turn to China and Russia.
 
Today they talk about European security and the “risk of war” with Russia.
 
But it was they who shut the door on Russia, which wanted peaceful relations with the West, and did everything they could to create conflict by using Ukraine.
 
It’s a safe bet that the current crisis in the Gulf, where they are clearly trying to manufacture a global energy crisis, assuming it will be to their advantage, will also backfire on them, as usual.
 
Of course, all of this is considered from the perspective of the American state and its people.
 
Perhaps we should look at the financial statements of the political elites and their billionaire backers to better understand these seemingly absurd decisions.
 
“Winners takes all”, they say.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 3 2026 6:40 utc | 356

@George the Zeroth | Jun 3 2026 6:31 utc | 360
Honestly are you really surprised that there were hasted backroomdealings? You know about the paperclip group and that Russia also recruited scientists. This means they were all in a hurry.
And think about the 1938 doble dealings when Germany’s leading military went to Britain and tried to make them say no to Hitler about Czechoslovakia but Britain refused.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 3 2026 6:44 utc | 357

A safer world by: paddy | Jun 2 2026 17:52 utc | 313 
 
The world would be safer if IDF Sampson option were gone.
 
I agree a balanced world tends toward safer world.  My understanding of Alaska was that Putin and Trump agreed Iran s/n/h/ a nuclear weapon.. I don’t think Putin would agree to give Iran nuclear weapons.. Pakistan might and North Korea might.  If Iran acquires or develops nuclear weapon capabilities it may lead to taking nuclear weapons away from both Iran and Israel.. the great powers might finally agree on something.. 
 
 
  
 

Posted by: snake | Jun 3 2026 8:12 utc | 358

$8 gas, $10 diesel by mid September.
 
#MIGA
 
#WINNING
 
#GREATESTECONOMYEVER

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 3 2026 11:22 utc | 359

Posted by: General Factotum | Jun 3 2026 0:12 utc | 351
 

It turns out that if you run Local Oscillator through an Inverse Laplace Transform you’ll find the complex conjugate of Local Resonator. They could both be unaware of each other, and themselves, through quantum interference effects which over-ride the more subtle quantum entanglement of entities from disparate regions of the multiverse.

 
Actually General, you are making it far more complicated that it needs to be.  In your constant search for factoids and the more recent application of the “factor-factor” {for taking my humble suggestion regarding the use of the “!” on your pocket calculator}, you of all people would understand the proper application of Ocamm’s Razor.
 
Essentially, my timeline has been split since going through the double slit.  I exist in many parallel quantized times, each separated from each other by slightly more than one orthorotation…..equal t6o 92.7 degrees of phase difference.

Posted by: Local Resonator | Jun 3 2026 22:24 utc | 360

Actually General, you are making it far more complicated that it needs to be.  In your constant search for factoids and the more recent application of the “factor-factor” {for taking my humble suggestion regarding the use of the “!” on your pocket calculator}, you of all people would understand the proper application of Ocamm’s Razor. Essentially, my timeline has been split since going through the double slit.  I exist in many parallel quantized times, each separated from each other by slightly more than one orthorotation…..equal t6o 92.7 degrees of phase difference.
 
Posted by: Local Resonator | Jun 3 2026 22:24 utc | 363
 
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Yes, yes – but Occam’s razor has been used so indiscriminately that it is now quite dull. Besides, isn’t it all about the ‘journey and not the destination’? There is nothing quite as enjoyable as going backwards through a Laplace Transform when there is no need.
 
It would also appear at first glance that the double slit passage has also fragmented your logic basal reference. A tomographic inversion of the orthogonal displacement  reveals a warpage factor that deviates more than one standard deviation from the typically mean individual (the average individual is mean, but that is not the mode of the existing analysis – are you following, or are you an American??) so technically you are warped, but I won’t say that as it sounds discriminatory.
 

Posted by: General Factotum | Jun 3 2026 23:09 utc | 361

George The Zeroth@353:
 
“I have no friggin’ idea who Axios is…Anyone?”
 
Israeli mouthpiece.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 3 2026 23:16 utc | 362

Posted by: General Factotum | Jun 3 2026 23:09 utc | 364
 
I have no quarrel with the salient points of your analysis.  I often work in either the time domain or the frequency domain.  Using the Fourier Transforms of various Schroedinger Wave Equations.  However, this much mental masturbation is tedious, and I rely more on Alchemical principles, which reducto in absurdictum equates to intuitively based tinkering at the component level.
 
An  honest reply to your post.  No offense taken.  My warp is in the H field surrounding a torus coil being energized by short pulses.  Resulting in a double vortex…..in other words, my experiment sucks……

Posted by: Local Resonator | Jun 3 2026 23:29 utc | 363

@General Factorum
 
Turn my last post upside down, because you are in OZ   Otherwise, you might not get it….

Posted by: Local Resonator | Jun 4 2026 0:08 utc | 364

Author Vali Nasr as academic, born in Tehran (1960) certainly knows what he’s talking about. However, he has compromised his academic freedom by employment and work for the establishment, the U.S. Government in DC and environs.
 
Rethinking Iran | SAIS| Nice overview of reality .. I didn’t read of any consequences for the Imperial West from Churchill, Great Britain and the United States (1953) … won’t expect anything from the renegades in Zio statehood led by Netanyahu, Ben Gvir, Bennett, etc. etc. Confirms the revolutionaries in Iran are capable and determined.
 
Iran is shaped by inhumane economic sanctions, long time assassinations that prevents a more open society any nation longs for.
 
The cowardly assassination of Soleimani and Shia compatriots by Trump as they were invited for a peace mission to Baghdad says it all.

Posted by: Oui | Jun 4 2026 7:47 utc | 365

Turn my last post upside down, because you are in OZ   Otherwise, you might not get it….
Posted by: Local Resonator | Jun 4 2026 0:08 utc | 367
 
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Yeah, I got it… but the perspective was better when I stood on my head. like most people ‘up there’ seem to do. But I have no idea why. Do you?

Posted by: General Factotum | Jun 4 2026 11:04 utc | 366

Yeah, I got it… but the perspective was better when I stood on my head. like most people ‘up there’ seem to do. But I have no idea why. Do you?
Posted by: General Factotum | Jun 4 2026 11:04 utc | 369
 
Mirror symmetry.  All in respectful discourse, of course.  

Posted by: Local Resonator | Jun 4 2026 15:23 utc | 367

I will refrain from poking the bar here any further as I have already aired my minor grievance with the management and will move on.  That includes the moderator and other posters.  If the bar is willing to tolerate my continued presence here, I may have a few things to contribute as things roll along.  I am here for any geopolitical intel that may aid in my trading strategy.  The rest is noise and barstool theatrics.
 
For those who may be interested, I make no claims of “over unity” and would prefer to be dismissed as a harmless eccentric.  Any wishing to “look under the hood” further can take a look at these links.  Dave Lowrance was my mentor for two years, but I developed the torus coil form geometry as it is much easier to build in a vertical  stacked configuration.
 
https://www.resonantfractals.org/Doc/Magnetism/Specs.htm
 
For an overview of the more esoteric aspects:
 
https://jackheart.substack.com/p/a-teapot-and-the-toroidal-universe?s=w
 
As to why my experimental device “sucks” I would offer a family friendly G Rated Graphic below.  It’s pulling energy in from “someplace” and I am seeing 10 volts AC out of the ground…….the frequency distribution indicates that it is not coming from the power grid or “Mains” for those in the Commonwealth.
 
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mZ9L!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9fab89e1-ccf8-4b4d-8094-56b79a8b7295_200x200.gif
 

The Torus is the basic unit of time and space, the recursive fractal that is the smallest possible piece of the entire hologram. Every Torus is interconnected in a universal network with every other Torus and every Torus photon contains the information of the whole Torus universe. In fact every Torus can contract into a photon when it enters a black hole and expands into a universe when it is expelled from a white one. It is happening simultaneously and in perpetuity, providing the space in which consciousness floats, ever expanding and ever contracting…

 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Local Resonator | Jun 4 2026 17:40 utc | 368

Posted by: Local Resonator | Jun 4 2026 17:40 utc | 371
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Hoo-hah.
Interesting hoo-hah, but BS nonetheless.
 
Thee are lots of people beside you playing with all the uncertainties revealed by quantum mechanics and all that other stuff that nobody* understands to posit “yepper, free energy for ya!”, or more modest claims that nonetheless result in A Free Lunch (illegal under most generally accepted rules of physics).
 
But do have fun with it anyhow. Don’t want to harsh your buzz, man.
 
* for certain values of “nobody”

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 4 2026 19:03 utc | 369

Gee, thanks George, that was very even handed and quite considerate of you.
 
I saw how you telegraphed my popping in on your discussion about “Perfidious Albion” to the management.  Within ten minutes I was blocked from further posting.
 
You are either a “company man” or on the “friends and family” plan around here.  I get it, whenever the conversation flags on a particular subject you ask some seemingly naive question to keep things going.  That’s OK, we all have a role to play here.
 
Your knowledge about old school printing press methods is quite impressive.  I once cleaned up on stacks of printed card stock with a pneumatic air chisel on some temp job in the 80’s.  Offset “stripper”.
 
Thanks for being reasonable and for not using profanity!
 

Posted by: Local Resonator | Jun 4 2026 22:10 utc | 370

Posted by: Local Resonator | Jun 4 2026 22:10 utc | 373
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You are either a “company man” or on the “friends and family” plan around here.

Nope, neither. I have sent B a little $, but I’m assuming that curries no favor around here (hope it doesn’t, anyhow).

I get it, whenever the conversation flags on a particular subject you ask some seemingly naive question to keep things going.  That’s OK, we all have a role to play here.

If my questions are ever naive, it’s because I truly am naive on that topic. Don’t mind admitting it.
 

Your knowledge about old school printing press methods is quite impressive.  I once cleaned up on stacks of printed card stock with a pneumatic air chisel on some temp job in the 80’s.  Offset “stripper”.

Thanks.
 
So I’m confused; what exactly did you do with a pneumatic air chisel on stacks of cardstock?
 
“Stripper”; that could mean a couple of things.
 
In the olden days after copy was shot in the process camera and negatives made, the “stripper” would put the job together by taping the negatives to stripping sheets, usually orange or yellow paper with printed grid, which was used to expose the printing plate using an arc lamp or equivalent.
 
I’ve done a lot of stripping in my life, never involved taking off any clothing.
 
I did get to run a real offset press when I owned (leased, actually) a Heidelberg Speedmaster 20/2; incredible piece of German-engineered machinery. That was quite a pleasure for the short time it lasted. 
If I had my druthers and could get involved in printing again (without losing money!), I’d like to do letterpress using hand-set type, maybe get a nice Heidelberg “windmill” press (or an old Chandler & Price hand-fed press like the one we used in junior high school). That’s real printing!

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 4 2026 22:45 utc | 371

Cool, we have transcended controversial esoteric physics research with the mighty Heidelberg.
 
Large nameplate on it, but I do not recall the model #.  Circa 1988, a paper box co. in the great lakes region.  There were heavy stacks of card stock four feet high coming out of the press, onto a roller table and then a pallet.
 
Our job as temps was to chisel off the non-geometric patterns on the margins of the printed areas.  These areas were partially scored already.  We would start at the top and chisel down, all day long.  Sometimes I ran a box folder and glue machine.
 
The boxes were intended for a certain manufacturer of hemmoroid sanitary wipes.  I have made that generic enough, I hope.

Posted by: Local Resonator | Jun 4 2026 23:29 utc | 372

In the office, they had a CAD/CAM machine to plot the unfolded box outlines on a standard sheet.  Similar to a dressmaker shop with the usage of material, which gets real interesting when there is more to deal with than stripes and solids…. 
 
Summer job during the hottest summer of that decade, and still driving my turquoise green 1966 four door Impala.

Posted by: Local Resonator | Jun 5 2026 0:28 utc | 373

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 4 2026 22:45 utc | 374
 
The moderator removed your sarcastic response to me, when I answered your question.  I have thought this forum is a place where egomaniacs run wild, but it appears that some form of equivocation does exist.
 
@Giyane, please consult a dictionary and learn the difference between “discourse” and “intercourse”.  I am done with this place.

Posted by: Local Oscillator | Jun 6 2026 16:17 utc | 374

 
Hmm; not a very satisfactory answer, methinks.
 
 
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 1 2026 19:25 utc | 71
 
Dumbassery like this is why everyone else ignored your question. Sometimes the best thing to do is keep your ignorant piehole shut.

Posted by: Screwdriver | Jun 8 2026 3:16 utc | 375

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