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June 28, 2026
Ukraine Open Thread 2026-137
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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So I’m interested in this 40 days of “influence” that Zelensky authorized to compel Russia to peace (surrender?) Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jun 28 2026 15:04 utc | 1 Well, the clown is always bragging and lying (and stealing). Yet an idea about what could be planned by his financiers and curators might be summarized in the appeal of infowar.ru https://t.me/zimovskyAL/41683 Posted by: aquadraht | Jun 28 2026 15:12 utc | 2 Posted by: aquadraht | Jun 28 2026 15:12 utc | 2 Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 28 2026 15:17 utc | 3 It’s a sunny Sunday afternoon, I’d like to engage in a bit of speculation. Posted by: The Far Side | Jun 28 2026 15:24 utc | 4
@ the far side Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jun 28 2026 15:42 utc | 5 Ukraine and World Affairs (including Iran/ME): Weekly Update, 26th June, 2026: May be Useful to Some: Ukraine and World Affairs (including Iran/ME): Weekly Update Posted by: The Busker | Jun 28 2026 15:52 utc | 6 Re: Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jun 28 2026 15:42 utc | 5
Posted by: Julian | Jun 28 2026 15:58 utc | 7 Canada’s national broadcaster, the CBC has been made a full EBU member. The statues of the EBU were changed to allow states outside the “European” broadcasting domain (Which in practice including North Africa and the Levant) defined by radio transmission to allow for them to join. The main impact will be the CBC has the right to participate on behalf of Canada in the Eurovision Song Contest which you might remember was hurting for paying participants and audiences after several countries boycotted it over the EBU not kicking out Israel like it did Russia and Belarus. Posted by: Altai | Jun 28 2026 15:59 utc | 8
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 28 2026 16:10 utc | 9
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 28 2026 16:15 utc | 10 Re: Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 28 2026 16:10 utc |
Posted by: Julian | Jun 28 2026 16:15 utc | 11
This is a funny comment. Russia didnt stop there to satisfy Britain, it was stopped by military force. They did try initially but unsuccessfully and once Ukrainian mobilization kicked in there wasn’t enough forces to overcome it. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jun 28 2026 16:18 utc | 12
Fan boy comments by people with an emotional investment. Plenty of it to go around, there been lots of Russia is going to collapse etc stuff to from the opposing side. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jun 28 2026 16:23 utc | 13
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 28 2026 16:28 utc | 14 Some fresh maps and advances by Marat Posted by: Newbie | Jun 28 2026 16:38 utc | 15
Yes Putin clearly preferred a negotiationed settlement with a federal ukraine respecting the Russian element in Ukraine and clearly was overly dependent on it. He also clearly bet on overwhelming force to get a quick settlement.
Yes and by March the advance was halted. Scuttling the ship was simply pragmatic at the time. After all the Russian black sea fleet seemed unassailable anyways so it was dead anyways. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jun 28 2026 16:40 utc | 16 Re: Belarus, Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 16:50 utc | 17 Let’s remember at the time in 2022 Mariupol and severodonetsk were more important strategic targets for Russia which they successfully took and have held since. In those ancient days the black sea fleet could cover the ports so this makes sense. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jun 28 2026 16:51 utc | 18 Regarding Odessa and the speculation about its liberation, I would like to add a point about Moldova, which is currently being developed into a NATO base… Posted by: Genesiss | Jun 28 2026 17:12 utc | 19
Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 16:50 utc | 17 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 17:15 utc | 20
This is chaff. Do you have anything interesting to say about this influence operation i started the thread with? Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jun 28 2026 17:18 utc | 21
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jun 28 2026 15:04 utc | 1 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 17:26 utc | 22 Re: Belarus #2 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 17:26 utc | 23 Wonder what happened to “The Ghost Of Kiyv”? Don’t hear much about him these days. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 17:33 utc | 24 The following isnt new but I think it is important to repeat. Alex Christoforou said that the reason Russia goes slow is that they have a contracted military force , i.e., not recruited with a compulsory draft. That means they have to keep the losses appropriate for that limiting cause. Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 28 2026 17:36 utc | 25 Cagliostro | Jun 28 2026 17:14 utc | 20 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 17:37 utc | 26 @25 cagliostro Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jun 28 2026 17:42 utc | 27
Posted by: Cagliostro | Jun 28 2026 17:26 utc | 25 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 17:44 utc | 28 @CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 17:37 utc | 28 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 28 2026 17:47 utc | 29 the longer the SMO the greater the likelihood that Russia will be defeated.. During the four years of war, the west has Posted by: snake | Jun 28 2026 17:47 utc | 30 IMO, the longer Russia waits the greater will be its defeat.. Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 17:53 utc | 31 So it seems a new NAFO/CIPSO playbook move is to start emoting about how terrible all the Russian losses must be, what must the families, the bereaved be feeling? Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 17:54 utc | 32 For anyone that is sick and tired of the mental quackery, and fighting over Putin and Zelensky (shocker, if they kissed and made up) Sun, Jun. 28 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 18:06 utc | 33 Posted by: The Far Side | Jun 28 2026 15:24 utc | 4 Posted by: frithguild | Jun 28 2026 18:06 utc | 34
Posted by: snake | Jun 28 2026 17:47 utc | 32
There’s loads more that could be added, but… but… the West are always the good guys and can never do anything wrong as they march towards inevitable victory… or something… Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 18:10 utc | 35 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 28 2026 16:10 utc | 9 Posted by: HB_Norica | Jun 28 2026 18:11 utc | 36 Cost is and never will be an issue for the US UK EU & NATO Posted by: Donald JD Rubio | Jun 28 2026 18:15 utc | 37 Putin and Lavrov will soon, if not already, be under huge pressure from the Russian public and the Russian neocons…Once again, they fell for Western lies and deception and allowed Ukraine to regain its footing…Now they will be forced to take the gloves off and start leveling cities, including Odessa and Odessa based ships…or maybe Medvedev will just replace Putin, who will suffer “poor health” and be forced to retire…. Posted by: pyrrhus | Jun 28 2026 18:17 utc | 38 If someone has a good explanation, regarding decapitating strikes. This is often a Israel/US tactic that although is questionable in its end results of meeting the wanted objectives. It often invokes fears, deterrance I believe to the European skinned, not to the ME, fighting true zionism. Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 18:25 utc | 39 And this business of NATO having 10× the resources of Russia, well, what exactly are we measuring here? Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 18:29 utc | 40 Or how about 10× the weaponry, which is needed when the weaponry only has 25% mission availability, so you end up with 4× the weaponry, with dubious reliability. And that’s just the F-35, the mission availability of the Royal Navy’s aircraft carriers doesn’t bear up to close scrutiny. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 18:35 utc | 41 All this obsessing with Odessa. While it is true that Britain salivates about the place it is also near impossible to take. It has hundreds of kilometers of ancient catacombs and underground tunnels, just for starters. So I think the Russians will wait until the fruit starts to hang a little lower in a while. Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 28 2026 18:37 utc | 42
Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 28 2026 18:41 utc | 43 the longer the SMO the greater the likelihood that Russia will be defeated.. Posted by: HB_Norica | Jun 28 2026 18:53 utc | 44 I’d like to emphasize the word ‘called‘. Notice how this dude just likes to open his flap, and yap like its no tomorrow. Its like having a bitch wifey who can’t keep her mouth shut, yet it never solves anything, other than driving the man away. So I think most people, countries, are just ignoring this baffoon of an idiot. Life goes on. Good luck Russian and Ukranians… Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 19:00 utc | 45 Cost is and never will be an issue for the US UK EU & NATO Posted by: HB_Norica | Jun 28 2026 19:01 utc | 46 Posted by: Dianna | Jun 28 2026 18:51 utc | 46 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 19:02 utc | 47 The latest Western game-changer has just been unveiled… Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 19:03 utc | 48 NATO has 10X the population of Russia and NATO countries are among the richest in the world. Posted by: HB_Norica | Jun 28 2026 18:11 utc | 38Also, US citizens weigh more than Russian citizens. Posted by: The Far Side | Jun 28 2026 19:16 utc | 49
Good riddance. We can live without your NAFO/Bandera/6thcolumn bullshit. Enjoy soccer, take the other trolls with you. Posted by: aquadraht | Jun 28 2026 19:17 utc | 50 @ HB_Norica | Jun 28 2026 18:53 utc | 47 Posted by: malenkov | Jun 28 2026 19:20 utc | 51
Posted by: malenkov | Jun 28 2026 19:23 utc | 52
Posted by: HB_Norica | Jun 28 2026 18:53 utc | 47 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 19:28 utc | 53
Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 28 2026 18:37 utc | 44 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 19:36 utc | 54 Putin said he is considering an export ban oil. At this rate Russia is gonna lose its entire industrial base and refineries. What’s Russia’s plan? Cover eyes and hope the problem goes away? Posted by: tunnel magnet | Jun 28 2026 19:41 utc | 55 By now it’s very obvious Russia/Pootin don’t have the military capacity and will to take Odessa. They can’t even defend Moscow from the 500 drones a day send by Ukies as Russia cannot make enough missile interceptors to shoot down these drones. That’s what happens when you fight a war with one eye blind, one hand and one leg tied for 4 years. NATO finally found their wonderwuff that really works and cheap to make. Posted by: Surferket | Jun 28 2026 19:42 utc | 56
Posted by: malenkov | Jun 28 2026 19:23 utc | 55 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 19:43 utc | 57 This guy wrote a “Moscow is burning because Pootin was playing his violin for his beloved Ukie fellow Slavs”. Either you fight a war seriously or you get off the potty and surrender. Don’t let your young men die so you can serenade live songs to your fellow Ukie Slavs. I saw a video where Russian soldiers executed surrendering Ukies one by one as they left their dugout. Soldiers on the front lines don’t like to see their friends executed by Ukies and Pootin pretends not to see. Wagner’s did that too but their chief got killed for truth telling. https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/ZYlsoB2p_DRQzoQVRkY4yw Posted by: Surferket | Jun 28 2026 19:50 utc | 58 malenkov: but HB_Norica said no such thing. I’m confused. Funny that one resident troll had a breakdown. Posted by: Konami | Jun 28 2026 19:54 utc | 59 @ Cagliostro | Jun 28 2026 19:41 utc | 58
Posted by: tunnel magnet | Jun 28 2026 19:41 utc | 59
Posted by: Surferket | Jun 28 2026 19:42 utc | 60 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 19:55 utc | 60 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 17:44 utc | 30 Napoleon & Grande Armee visited Moscow in 1812, of course. Sorry for typo. Posted by: Konami | Jun 28 2026 19:57 utc | 62 Konami writes:
Posted by: malenkov | Jun 28 2026 20:12 utc | 63
Posted by: Cagliostro | Jun 28 2026 20:07 utc | 67
All sources have flaws in their methodology, a topic that has been discussed here many times, long before you showed up.
Please quote where I have actually said that Russians don’t die?
Well, if you are that laid back, you probably shouldn’t be so “concerned”. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 20:17 utc | 64 Putin may not be able to keep out of a war with NATO … Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 28 2026 20:22 utc | 65 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 20:17 utc | 69 Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 28 2026 20:32 utc | 66 Posted by: malenkov | Jun 28 2026 19:20 utc | 54
Unless strange things happen under the hood, you posted this earlier today. I now see that you’re “please don’t leave us” was a general token of affection rather than a reaction to an announcement of HB_Norica to move on to greener pastures (which is how I interpreted your posting). Also +1 for extra classy Anrede “Halte z’Gnaden” 🙂 Posted by: Konami | Jun 28 2026 20:36 utc | 67 @ Don Firineach | Jun 28 2026 20:32 utc | 72 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 20:39 utc | 68
This is a lie, as NAFO and Banderas always do. The number off 370k is even above Mediazona’s figure from June 19, which was 352k. In February, they “reported” 200,000 “confirmed”, then they changed their “method”. Posted by: aquadraht | Jun 28 2026 20:40 utc | 69 The best way to take Odessa is to nuke Kiev, Nikolaiv, Kharkiv, Lviv, etc. in retaliation to Ukie terrorist attacks on Russian civilians and civil infrastructure. But it is not in the plan to take. Posted by: Jason | Jun 28 2026 20:46 utc | 70 OT Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 28 2026 20:46 utc | 71 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 20:39 utc | 73 Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 28 2026 20:49 utc | 72
Posted by: Cagliostro | Jun 28 2026 20:44 utc | 76 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 20:51 utc | 73 Unusual folks with low iq seem to down play the role of incendiary drones. They are just for PR to boost Ukranian morale, is one of the most stupid reasons, added to the mentally deranged list of ‘they are just prick hits’ – nothing to worry about folks, Russia is winning ‘Hurrah!’. Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 20:59 utc | 74 TheOtherSideRu·3h Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 28 2026 21:04 utc | 75 Here’s a link to the Ukrainian “refugees” who stripped the German landlord’s apartment. Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 28 2026 21:08 utc | 77 Donald JD Rubio | Jun 28 2026 18:15 utc | 39 Meanwhile, actually in Ukraine:
https://t.me/legitimniy/22712 (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 21:13 utc | 79
Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 28 2026 21:14 utc | 80 Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 28 2026 21:08 utc | 86 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 21:15 utc | 81 pyrrhus | Jun 28 2026 18:17 utc | 40 Posted by: Julian | Jun 28 2026 16:15 utc | 11 Posted by: pepe | Jun 28 2026 21:19 utc | 83 CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 17:53 utc | 33
Posted by: Cagliostro | Jun 28 2026 21:04 utc | 84 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 21:22 utc | 85 You will not solve a jigsaw puzzle by playing tic-tac-toe. Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 21:28 utc | 86 For anyone that cares about FIFA! Canada just made history by whoopin South Africa’s ass 0:1 – they both played amazing. Tough game, only scored towards the end. Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 21:33 utc | 87
Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 21:28 utc | 95 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 21:35 utc | 88 Avtonom | Jun 28 2026 18:37 utc | 44 https://youtu.be/hBOxkdWT9R8?si=NQJSNkQr1ffNKvaG Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 21:56 utc | 90 Anyway, it’s all been good fun so far, with all the “concern” for Russia, Putin, the economy, the casualty levels but now it is time to turn the focus onto similar points applied to Ukraine: Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 21:58 utc | 91 Oh my god, this war with Russia against >30 NATO countries has gone on forever. Putin is soooo weak. Why can’t Russia manage to accomplish what the most powerful military in the history of human civilization managed in 20+ years and three presidential administrations in underdeveloped Afghanistan against 25,000 untrained shepherds in sandals and turbans, armed with DIY mines and WWII era Russian assault rifles? Posted by: nwwoods | Jun 28 2026 22:01 utc | 92
I think playing with yourself is your therapy. Posted by: tucenz | Jun 28 2026 22:03 utc | 93 EU announced that it would buy the drones and transfer them to Ukraine, rather than handing over the cash for the Hohols to purchase them, due to now well known corruption in the Ukraine government, because it’s more effort for the cokeheads to sell the drones on the black market than it is to just straight up fill their suitcases with stolen Euros. Posted by: nwwoods | Jun 28 2026 22:08 utc | 94
Posted by: nwwoods | Jun 28 2026 22:01 utc | 102 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 22:10 utc | 95 Posted by: nwwoods | Jun 28 2026 22:01 utc | 102 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 22:23 utc | 96 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 18:06 utc | 35 Posted by: Preki | Jun 28 2026 22:26 utc | 97
Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 28 2026 22:23 utc | 106 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 28 2026 22:28 utc | 98 Doctorow and Diesen are catching up with how my views changed on Putin 2+ years ago. Are the natives are getting restless in Russia while others in alt media streams keep with the Russia is winning meme? The gloves are coming off is the latest spin. Posted by: Prunella Scales | Jun 28 2026 22:43 utc | 99 To all the smug Canuckleheads and other Putin haters. Posted by: kupkee | Jun 28 2026 23:15 utc | 100 |
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