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June 21, 2026
Ukraine Open Thread 2026-131
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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*** At a certain point even the most apathetic population won’t accept anymore the degradation of their living standing, the misappropriation of the Justice, Welfare, economic, etc. budgets to fuel a forever war bringing no victory and no result excepting depleting Europe of its fundamental needs.*** Posted by: frithguild | Jun 21 2026 15:20 utc | 1 From previous thread… Posted by: OXI | Jun 21 2026 15:49 utc | 2 Ukraine and World Affairs (including Iran/ME): Weekly Update, 19th June 2026: May be Useful to Some: (2) Ukraine and World Affairs (including Iran/ME): Weekly Update Posted by: The Busker | Jun 21 2026 15:51 utc | 3 Re: Posted by: OXI | Jun 21 2026 15:49 utc | 2
Posted by: Julian | Jun 21 2026 16:00 utc | 4 No comment Posted by: Cagliostro | Jun 21 2026 16:23 utc | 5 Look at Russian progress over the last four months (March-April-May-June) – it’s slow slow slow to non-existent. No large settlements captured in the last four months, why would that suddenly change? It won’t change! Posted by: Genesis | Jun 21 2026 16:41 utc | 6 @OXI | Jun 21 2026 15:49 utc | 2 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 21 2026 16:46 utc | 7 Not everyone in Ukraine is as full of joy and celebration as the trolls here seem to be:
https://t.me/ZE_kartel/13051 (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 21 2026 16:55 utc | 8 Zelensky’s Ukraine now threatening Belarussia reminds me that recently there were a bunch of Chinese military in Belarussia talking about, maybe signing, a mutual defense agreement. So count down the days till they come back, a Chinese division or two around the Pripyat marshes will concentrate “minds” in Kiev. Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Jun 21 2026 17:10 utc | 9
If you clowns just want to suck each other off, get a room. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jun 21 2026 17:17 utc | 10 @ Julian | Jun 21 2026 16:00 utc | 4 Posted by: malenkov | Jun 21 2026 17:30 utc | 11 This ensured that every downed drone created a visual spectacle visible from afar—perfect for Western audiences. Two channels reported… Posted by: rk | Jun 21 2026 17:38 utc | 12
Posted by: Julian | Jun 21 2026 16:00 utc | 4 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 21 2026 17:42 utc | 13
Posted by: rk | Jun 21 2026 17:38 utc | 12 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 21 2026 17:53 utc | 14 Posted by: rk | Jun 21 2026 17:38 utc | 12 Posted by: scc | Jun 21 2026 18:22 utc | 15 YuriPodolyaka·46m A big “thank you” to our Chinese “allies” for … …supplying Kiev with everything necessary for the war against us. A subscriber from the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) shared a Chinese proposal for the Ukrainian side regarding drone interceptors, which perform the function of air defense. Pay attention to the prices. 1 hryvnia = 1 ruble 64 kopecks. Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 21 2026 18:54 utc | 16 NY Times today: Posted by: frithguild | Jun 21 2026 19:06 utc | 17
Posted by: Liolia Paluzas | Jun 21 2026 19:29 utc | 18 Ukrainian Attacks On Territory Of Russia And Military Situation In Ukraine On June 21, 2026 (Maps Update) Posted by: smartfox | Jun 21 2026 19:39 utc | 19 In the meantime, the ordinary Brit believes the British are more wealthy than the Swiss. Apathy is insignificant when misperception of reality is that large of a factor. Posted by: frithguild | Jun 21 2026 15:20 utc | 1 Posted by: Red Star | Jun 21 2026 19:44 utc | 20 DANISH STATE BROADCASTER REPORTS RISING NEO-NAZISM AMONG UKRAINIAN REFUGEES Posted by: Red Star | Jun 21 2026 19:48 utc | 21
Posted by: nikolaz | Jun 21 2026 20:08 utc | 22 The long-serving Washington DC “the Atlantic Council” a few days ago put up “Ukrainian drones are cutting Russian logistics and reshaping the battlefield“. They seem to be the quotidian types who genuinely think Ukraine has the initiative. They also still type the phrase ‘full-scale invasion’ (with no idea this habitual use of boilerplate damages their own analysis, makes them believe Russia is going all out).
How to exploit, this analyst thinks
Seems pure copium but do want to know how useful this balloon+glide drone tactic will be for them. The combo is cheap. Glide drones have small warheads. They would have to send up hundreds at time. The balloons are about 2 meters across asfaik and have a small radar signature. Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | Jun 21 2026 20:19 utc | 23 You see, for all the trolls here, defeat for Russia includes the complete restoration of Ukrainian territorial integrity, back to its 1991 borders.
Such an intelligent and well-informed collective brains trust, yet none of them have a clue… Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 21 2026 20:19 utc | 24 Posted by: nikolaz | Jun 21 2026 20:08 utc | 22
? Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 21 2026 20:28 utc | 25 Banderite troll and his wet dreams:
Well, in the first 5 months of 2026, Russia took control of the Gulaipolje area and all territories east of the Gaichur river, pushing west towards Verchnya Tersa. They also made progress in southern Djyepropetrovsk oblast.
Lol. wet dreams of a nazi moron. Konstantinovka, just practically fallen, had a prewar population of 67,000, Krasnij Liman, also about to fall, 20,000. The village of Rai Alexandrovka, just taken under control of the RuAF, had only 1000 people which are certainly gone. but it has a paramount position overlooking both Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, 12 and 15km distance. Moreover, this was the key position in the commanding heights defensive of the Ukrainian forces. From there, it goes downhill towards the Slavyansk-Kramatorsk agglomeration, militarily unfavorably located in the river valleys of Kasenny Torez and its tributaries. Northwest of both the hills are lower so no good fallback. Posted by: aquadraht | Jun 21 2026 20:29 utc | 26 There was an explosion at the Qatari gas plant at Ras Laffan. Locals report it being like an earthquake. Posted by: unimperator | Jun 21 2026 20:35 utc | 27
Posted by: unimperator | Jun 21 2026 20:35 utc | 27 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 21 2026 20:46 utc | 28
The balloon story (did not find it in the Atlantic Council article) sounds somewhat ridiculous. A baloon able to lift a considerable payload into high altitudes would be huge, and gain volume/diameter when rising. To believe it could escape radar is absurd, and it is a sitting duck even for simple interceptors. Do you have any reference for that proposal? Posted by: aquadraht | Jun 21 2026 20:53 utc | 29 There was an explosion at the Qatari gas plant at Ras Laffan. Locals report it being like an earthquake. Another zio false flag? Posted by: smartfox | Jun 21 2026 20:55 utc | 30 Military 101, if your nation is getting attacked, you are getting attacked. Why would you not respond into their territory? Posted by: Liolia Paluzas | Jun 21 2026 21:35 utc | 31 Military 101, if your nation is getting attacked, you are getting attacked. Why would you not respond into their territory?Posted by: OXI | Jun 21 2026 15:49 utc | 2Military 201 – attack your opponent and cause damage without them knowing who did it, when, or how it was done. Posted by: smartfox | Jun 21 2026 21:37 utc | 32 Hypersonics 101 – Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 21 2026 21:42 utc | 33 Spectacular attacks on civilians don’t win wars. That is just a poor show for donors. Ukraine has bled around 19 million people since 2015 mostly to European countries and the rest to war. This is unsustainable. The moment the war ends another dozen million will leave. They know that peace won’t last. Ukraine is eroding from within. Only females and the very old will be left behind as Europe has no further demand they can fill. Repopulating Ukraine with a Russian mix population is the ultimate goal. Posted by: Jason | Jun 21 2026 22:14 utc | 34 Oh yes, a real armchair commander.Posted by: smartfox | Jun 21 2026 21:37 utc | 32 Posted by: Liolia Paluzas | Jun 21 2026 22:23 utc | 35 Alexander Mercouris says there is a gasoline shortage in Crimea caused by Ukraine causing trouble on routes from the mainland. There is no shortage in the rest of Russia. Posted by: arby | Jun 21 2026 22:24 utc | 36 Posted by: arby | Jun 21 2026 22:24 utc | 36 Posted by: unimperator | Jun 21 2026 22:33 utc | 37 Big UAV attack from Ukraine…concentrating on Moscow and Crimea which seems to be “shut down” while air defence working. Posted to ukropenthread on telegram the flight map from lord of war. Seems like Ukraine giving it all now. Posted by: Jo | Jun 21 2026 22:56 utc | 38 Re: Posted by: Liolia Paluzas | Jun 21 2026 19:29 utc | 18
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Posted by: Julian | Jun 21 2026 23:03 utc | 39 Russian tactics are like Monty’s, slow but sure and parsimonious with Russian flesh and blood. Posted by: Squeeth | Jun 21 2026 23:04 utc | 40 Daughter in law could fill up car tank last week but limitations severely imposed again. Posted by: Jo | Jun 21 2026 23:07 utc | 41 Long-range strikes on Russia prolong the war and weaken Europe, says French politician“This is the path to total war,” stated Jean-Luc Mélenchon, leader of the left-wing La France Insoumise party.According to him, the goal of this war is to weaken not only Russia, but also Europe. “In the war between Russia and Ukraine, the Americans’ interest is to weaken the Russians, but also the Europeans,” he added.Debates continue in Europe on whether to start negotiations with Russia and who will represent the EU. Ahead of next year’s presidential elections in France, Mélenchon is the highest-rated left-wing candidate.@Slavyangrad Posted by: Jo | Jun 21 2026 23:08 utc | 42 Re: Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | Jun 21 2026 20:19 utc | 23
Posted by: Julian | Jun 21 2026 23:15 utc | 43 Kaja move over and let Rutte take over. Anyone seen this or know if it’s out of context or something? Everything is possible in ClownWorld otherwise it wouldn’t be ClownWorld; but, can Rutte really be this stupid???
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 21 2026 23:15 utc | 44 Posted by: aquadraht | Jun 21 2026 20:29 utc | 26 ‼️🇷🇺🏴☠ Safety restrictions are being introduced in Sevastopol▪️Mass street events are cancelled in Sevastopol from June 22nd until further notice, Governor Razvozhaev announced.▪️Public transportation will operate only during daylight hours – from 5:30 AM to 9:00 PM.▪️Car ferries will cease operating, leaving only passenger boats.▪️A decision has been made to allow public transportation to operate during emergency situations; it will take effect at 3:00 PM on Monday.▪️Shopping centers, supermarkets, and hypermarkets will be open from 7:00 AM to 8:00 PM, and food service establishments will be open from 8:00 AM to 8:00 PM. Small shops, kiosks, and pharmacies can set their own hours.▪️It has also been decided not to turn on street lights.⚠️. RV: | Posted by: Jo | Jun 21 2026 23:22 utc | 46 On today, the anniversary of Operation Barbarossa, let’s all thank the soldiers of the Red Army for their blood soaked sacrifices and their valour that – from Day One of the invasion – hamstrung, crippled, and ultimately destroyed the nazi beast. Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 21 2026 23:27 utc | 47
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 21 2026 23:33 utc | 48 watcher @ 45 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 21 2026 23:35 utc | 49 @jo 41 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 21 2026 23:37 utc | 50
Posted by: Tel | Jun 21 2026 23:40 utc | 51 To anyone with a mind: Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 21 2026 23:42 utc | 52 This ordinary Brit thinks “citation needed”. Sounds like a lot of bollocks to me. Posted by: frithguild | Jun 21 2026 23:42 utc | 53
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 21 2026 23:44 utc | 54 DANISH STATE BROADCASTER REPORTS RISING NEO-NAZISM AMONG UKRAINIAN REFUGEES Posted by: frithguild | Jun 21 2026 23:48 utc | 55 @frithguild 45 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 21 2026 23:50 utc | 56
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 22 2026 0:02 utc | 57 *** deport the “refugees” back to Ukranazistan so ꑭelensky can bussify them. Posted by: frithguild | Jun 22 2026 0:10 utc | 58 Barely noticeable a map is the answer. Posted by: Liolia Paluzas | Jun 22 2026 0:18 utc | 59 If it was me, I would choose the safest and most reliable method while keeping casualties low on my side. I certainly wouldn’t go all out … but you know what? There elections coming up in Russia soon, I think you would be in with a chance … just campaign as, “That blog commenting dude who is much smarter than Putin” … everyone will recognize you instantly. *** any ideas where they could get more from? Posted by: frithguild | Jun 22 2026 0:30 utc | 61 I thought this fight was “existential” for Russia – you don’t use half measured in an existential fight – that’s insane. Posted by: Liolia Paluzas | Jun 22 2026 0:30 utc | 62 Who invited the village idiot? Posted by: Suresh | Jun 22 2026 0:37 utc | 63 “Sounds like they’re admitting it now, after all these years, so that they can find an excuse to deport the “refugees” back to Ukranazistan so ꑭelensky can bussify them. Posted by: Vacuous Cipher | Jun 22 2026 0:56 utc | 64 re: Jo | Jun 21 2026 23:22 utc | 46 Posted by: Perimetr | Jun 22 2026 1:32 utc | 65 NATO has no idea Posted by: Liolia Paluzas | Jun 22 2026 1:48 utc | 66 Posted by: Liolia Paluzas | Jun 22 2026 0:18 utc | 59 “Remember too, the Ukies have a compulsory draft – Russia doesn’t need one.” Posted by: ed4 | Jun 22 2026 1:57 utc | 67 Posted by: Liolia Paluzas | Jun 22 2026 0:30 utc | 62 It’s existential for Ukraine too. When are they going to start winning? And when will they start repaying the debts they have racked up? Posted by: ed4 | Jun 22 2026 1:58 utc | 68
Posted by: malenkov | Jun 22 2026 2:06 utc | 69 The SMO started in February of 2022, Ukraine was pretty well supplied with ordinance although it never said it had enough and always wanted more. Biden said something to the effect of, “You will get as much as it takes for as long as it takes.” Then the October 7 attack happened and the Israelis tripled down on retribution. They bombed the sh*t out of Gaza and Biden was finding ways to ship weapons to Israel at a level that was just below the requirement for congressional approval just to keep them out of the picture. Some time in 2024 Biden actually told Zelensky that he would have to wait for weapons because Israel came first. To me, this was a first indication of a supply-chain problem. Here we have the IDF murdering mommies and babies and the UAF trying to match Russia’s shelling, with minimal ballistic missile play – and the US can’t supply both. Posted by: TimD | Jun 22 2026 2:07 utc | 70
Posted by: malenkov | Jun 22 2026 2:08 utc | 71
1. So regaining former Ukie territory isn’t part of winning? Posted by: malenkov | Jun 22 2026 2:10 utc | 72 @malenkov 71 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 22 2026 2:10 utc | 73 @ Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 22 2026 2:10 utc | 73 Posted by: malenkov | Jun 22 2026 2:11 utc | 74 I see Suresh is now too cowardly to name me when he makes his zero-IQ commentary attacking me. Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 22 2026 2:12 utc | 75 At this point I would love to know how many of Putin’s oligarch cronies still have investments in Ukraine – and how many of them have zionist passports. Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 22 2026 2:12 utc | 76 @ed4 68 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 22 2026 2:15 utc | 77 I can see no other reason for Putin to keep forcing Russia to fight with both hands tied behind its back as he has always been doing. Posted by: smartfox | Jun 22 2026 2:27 utc | 78 Well, AFU casualties yesterday 1.450, things are warming.. Posted by: Newbie | Jun 22 2026 2:28 utc | 79 Is that the cast of the upcoming movie “Dim and Dima”? Posted by: Suresh | Jun 22 2026 2:40 utc | 80 Now your own Russian citizens are unable to buy gasoline from gas stations in the 3rd largest producer of gasoline. Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 22 2026 4:08 utc | 81 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 22 2026 2:12 utc | 76
Netanyahu heading for the rails, and Israel headed for Ukraine/Zelensky status.Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jun 22 2026 4:52 utc | 129 I don’t see it that way yet. For that to happen, Israeli power in America would have to be broken more permanently. Posted by: smartfox | Jun 22 2026 5:03 utc | 83
Posted by: Cagliostro | Jun 22 2026 7:00 utc | 84 Yes, all very well, but how does that help Ukraine restore its territorial integrity? Presumably that is something you wish to see achieved? Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 21 2026 17:53 utc | 14 Posted by: rk | Jun 22 2026 7:07 utc | 85
You buffoon, Russia is not my country to defend and I’m not the one going around calling, “Putin weeeeeak, must bomb Europe else weeeeak, blah blah”. I happen to expect the Russians can and will win this just fine all on their own … I also think the whole thing is a tragedy and the typical European has no idea no idea quite how brutally the Ukrainians are being ground down. Eventually it will become well known, and then all the people cheering for Ukraine and encouraging an extra million casualties will become pariahs. Posted by: Tel | Jun 22 2026 7:41 utc | 86
Posted by: Tel | Jun 22 2026 7:51 utc | 87 Posted by: watcher | Jun 22 2026 4:20 utc | 82 Posted by: scc | Jun 22 2026 8:03 utc | 88
Posted by: Cagliostro | Jun 22 2026 8:04 utc | 89 Konstantinovka. Posted by: Cagliostro | Jun 22 2026 8:19 utc | 90 Another day, same nafo cope Posted by: pinche | Jun 22 2026 8:31 utc | 91 I checked with AI about casualties in Ukraine Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 22 2026 9:04 utc | 92 Is there any source that has consistently brought reliable info about this topic?
Posted by: smartfox | Jun 22 2026 9:32 utc | 93
Posted by: Cagliostro | Jun 22 2026 8:19 utc | 90 Posted by: Hamburger | Jun 22 2026 9:43 utc | 94 In response to Jeremy Rhymings-Lang@24, Posted by: Skiffer | Jun 22 2026 9:53 utc | 95 watcher | Jun 22 2026 4:20 utc | 82
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Jun 22 2026 9:56 utc | 96 Posted by: Hamburger | Jun 22 2026 9:43 utc | 94 Posted by: unimperator | Jun 22 2026 9:57 utc | 97 Will liberal Putin respond or more stern words: Posted by: OXI | Jun 22 2026 10:12 utc | 98 Russua fears WWIII. Posted by: smartfox | Jun 22 2026 10:16 utc | 99 Will liberal Putin respond… Posted by: OXI | Jun 22 2026 10:17 utc | 100 |
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