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June 3, 2026
Ukraine Open Thread 2026-116
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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I have heard the SPIEF has been droned. Let’s all wait and see what happens next. Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Jun 3 2026 14:31 utc | 1 Several Wounded By Ukrainian Drone Attacks on St Petersburg Ahead of ‘Russian Davos’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 3 2026 14:47 utc | 2
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jun 3 2026 14:48 utc | 3 Here is an interesting magical trick attention diversion that is ongoing and I think underappreciated. Posted by: frithguild | Jun 3 2026 15:04 utc | 4 https://x.com/mfa_russia/status/2062129669055656052 says
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 3 2026 15:05 utc | 5 @ Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 3 2026 15:05 utc | 5 Posted by: james | Jun 3 2026 15:14 utc | 6 @Gilbertn Posted by: Skeletor | Jun 3 2026 15:17 utc | 7 James@6 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 3 2026 15:18 utc | 8 @Skeletor 7 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 3 2026 15:21 utc | 9 @ Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 3 2026 15:18 utc | 8 Posted by: james | Jun 3 2026 15:22 utc | 10 Glenn Diesen: Marta Havryshko Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 3 2026 15:27 utc | 11 @james 10 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 3 2026 15:31 utc | 12 @ Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 3 2026 15:31 utc | 12 Posted by: james | Jun 3 2026 15:37 utc | 13 @ 6 “Brian” Posted by: Skeletor | Jun 3 2026 15:40 utc | 14 Much like US draw down of military presence in Europe is diverted into discussion of tactical nukes, the discussion in this bar turns to events 20 years past. See how narrative diversion works? Posted by: frithguild | Jun 3 2026 15:54 utc | 15 Russia Gushes Crude Exports as Drone Strikes Hobble Refineries Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 3 2026 15:55 utc | 16
Posted by: Keme | Jun 3 2026 16:01 utc | 17
https://t.me/ukraine_watch/62014 Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 3 2026 16:07 utc | 18 Really, Ukrainian raids on Russian civilian targets are barbaric and uncivilized!!! Posted by: Noam A Larkey | Jun 3 2026 16:11 utc | 19 Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jun 3 2026 14:48 utc | 3If you had to choose between living in St Petersburg, Russia, or London, UK, what would you choose? Posted by: The Far Side | Jun 3 2026 16:14 utc | 20 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 3 2026 15:05 utc | 5 Posted by: duck n cover | Jun 3 2026 16:24 utc | 21 Posted by: duck n cover | Jun 3 2026 16:24 utc | 21 Posted by: duck n cover | Jun 3 2026 16:26 utc | 22 Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jun 3 2026 14:48 utc | 3If you had to choose between living in St Petersburg, Russia, or London, UK, what would you choose?Personally, I’d take St Petersburg. The moderate risk of a Ukrainian drone sounds way better than living in London.Posted by: The Far Side | Jun 3 2026 16:14 utc | 20 Posted by: frithguild | Jun 3 2026 16:28 utc | 23 Stas Krapivnik and Garland Nixon have an overview on Ukraine. Posted by: unimperator | Jun 3 2026 16:46 utc | 24 John Gilberts @2: “Ukrainian Drone Kills 8 Civilians on Moscow-Crimea Bus – Governor” Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 3 2026 16:51 utc | 25 The English are now poorer than the Irish ! Posted by: Exile | Jun 3 2026 17:08 utc | 26 William Gruff@25: Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 3 2026 17:22 utc | 27 John Gilberts @27: “‘Westernizers’ need to be sorted.” Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 3 2026 17:24 utc | 28 tass.com/world/2140923 Posted by: rk | Jun 3 2026 17:33 utc | 29 *** Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Greece, Poland, the UK, Sweden, and Denmark have expressed interest *** Posted by: frithguild | Jun 3 2026 17:54 utc | 30
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jun 3 2026 18:15 utc | 31
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jun 3 2026 18:16 utc | 32 I think that US/the lyrics NATO/EU song anthem should use the lyrics of Miley Cyrus: Posted by: spudski | Jun 3 2026 18:36 utc | 33 Apologies, I effed up the first line – wish I would have edited it: Posted by: spudski | Jun 3 2026 18:39 utc | 34 Russian air defense forces are now starting to shoot down drones upon detection, even if they haven’t crossed state border yet but seem to be coming toward the border, regardless whether it is in the airspace of a Kiev regime ally. Posted by: unimperator | Jun 3 2026 18:45 utc | 35 Posted by: james | Jun 3 2026 15:22 utc | 10
In my opinion, framing the question that way mischaracterizes Russian responsibility in the 2011 war on Libya. Posted by: robin | Jun 3 2026 18:55 utc | 36 A few videos of RUAF managing to locate and destroy some of AFU’s modified drone launching trucks. They are trailers with in-built racks for holding and launching drones. Posted by: unimperator | Jun 3 2026 18:57 utc | 37 Deisen picking up the Wolyn hatred and elensky worhip of the bones of Melnyk with Marta Havryshko. She draws a distinction between western Ukraine (Galicia and Volynia) and the rest. Posted by: frithguild | Jun 3 2026 19:26 utc | 38 The Far Side@20 Posted by: ArmChairGeneral | Jun 3 2026 19:36 utc | 39 Can’t wait for this to arrive. Maybe this will scare humanity straight and no more wars – yeh, right:
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 3 2026 20:12 utc | 40 ArmChairGeneral @ 39
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 3 2026 20:26 utc | 41 @ robin | Jun 3 2026 18:55 utc | 36 Posted by: james | Jun 3 2026 20:29 utc | 42 Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 3 2026 15:05 utc | 5 What Role Did Germany Play In Ukraine’s Transformation Into An Anti-Polish State? Posted by: frithguild | Jun 3 2026 20:57 utc | 44 @Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 3 2026 15:05 utc | 5
Should he? Without linking actions (or lack thereof) to mission objectives, it all quickly becomes an orgy to make you feel good, after which you’ll probably lose anyway. This is not a US expeditionary war, where you can just declare victory and go home, with at most some fleeting political embarrassment. Presumably, the end state of Ukraine next door matters to Moscow, whether you believe in the “brotherly peoples” talking point or not. Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 3 2026 21:14 utc | 45 In theory, a strong (not sure how much stronger over the existing EW) microwave beam can fry the drone electronics. Posted by: ArmChairGeneral | Jun 3 2026 21:18 utc | 46
Posted by: tucenz | Jun 3 2026 21:18 utc | 47 The way this thread is going someone will eventually come up with a convoluted and contrived “explanation” of how the Biblical Flood was Putin’s fault… Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 3 2026 21:26 utc | 48 Oh, I nearly forgot; 9/11 was Putin’s fault as well… Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 3 2026 21:30 utc | 49
Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 3 2026 21:31 utc | 50 Thanks frithguld re US drawdown. Posted by: Suresh | Jun 3 2026 21:48 utc | 51 i used the example of libya in reference to my beginning comment on the issue of time.. i am sorry that confused a few folks.. Posted by: james | Jun 3 2026 21:51 utc | 52
Posted by: Suresh | Jun 3 2026 21:48 utc | 51 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 3 2026 21:52 utc | 53
Posted by: james | Jun 3 2026 21:51 utc | 52 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 3 2026 21:54 utc | 54 Interesting article today in which the writer describes in some detail the RF navy task force now operating in North Sea to provide convoy protection to RF and other country oil tankers transiting to destinations in Africa and the ME. Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 3 2026 21:57 utc | 55 Voenkor Kotenok – Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 3 2026 21:59 utc | 56 As in every thread the Burka Shister is waving this “I’m right, ’cause I’m an idiot” – flag with all the might of his micropenis. Posted by: OberstHecht | Jun 3 2026 22:02 utc | 57 Any serious observations about Russian tactical changes from Afghanistan and Chechnya would have noticed its approach in the Syrian Civil War. Posted by: Suresh | Jun 3 2026 22:03 utc | 58 Anyways… Posted by: UWDude | Jun 3 2026 22:18 utc | 59 Hua Bin covers the scorched earth tactics and Russia’s utility of restraint. Posted by: Suresh | Jun 3 2026 22:21 utc | 60 Suresh | Jun 3 2026 22:03 utc | 58 @ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 3 2026 21:54 utc | 54 Posted by: james | Jun 3 2026 22:31 utc | 62 Medvedev administering his usual burn on the Nazis of Europe who are not only rewriting history but rebutting their Nazi heroes! The German state is a disgrace. British people who had relatives in WW2 should be up I arms about this.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 3 2026 22:35 utc | 63 Even (0% chances of that happening now) if Russia were to capture the whole of Ukraine, that would do nothing to stop these drones since Putin is far too much of a Europhile and juadeophile to dare to attack Ukranazistan’s EU owners. They’d just create a Ukranazi “regime in exile” and use it as a cover to keep launching drones into Russia, openly from NATO territory. Posted by: Englishman | Jun 3 2026 22:59 utc | 65 Not only Iran, but also Russia keeps its “true promise”: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/russia-and-iran-keep-their-true-promises?r=25fc37 DD_Geopolitics Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 3 2026 23:13 utc | 67 55 – for reference the article I refer to is in the Guardian today……..details of the RF navy escort force in the North Sea…….. Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 3 2026 23:22 utc | 68 Volo is basically praying at the neo nazi shrine to the 14th SS Division – the Galacian Division, which was accused of numerous war crimes in then German occupied Russia and Poland. Interesting that too used the ‘black sun’ shoulder patch on their uniforms, just the Azov units in the UAF. Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 3 2026 23:28 utc | 69 Well Rutter was in Kiev today meeting the green Goblin, why the hell was that bastard not hit? Posted by: frithguild | Jun 3 2026 23:29 utc | 70 “Signalling system failure at Didcot Parkway? Yep, guess whose fault?” Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jun 4 2026 0:35 utc | 71 “Well Rutter was in Kiev today meeting the green Goblin, why the hell was that bastard not hit?” Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Jun 4 2026 0:40 utc | 72 Bloomberg: Germany, France UK Sketch Plans To Engage Putin in Ukraine Talks Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 4 2026 0:59 utc | 73 One RF tanker seized 400km of the west coast of France, clearly in international waters, and another Chinese tanker seized by Sweden in Baltic Sea………… Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 4 2026 1:00 utc | 74 Question for Cynic @ 61 Posted by: Suresh | Jun 4 2026 2:10 utc | 75 Posted by: Keme | Jun 3 2026 16:01 utc | 17 Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 4 2026 2:11 utc | 76 Price for gas in US is $5.99 a gallon. Posted by: Suresh | Jun 4 2026 2:14 utc | 77 “Ukraine’s key European allies are working with Kyiv to engage Russia in negotiations to end the war as they see a shift in momentum strengthening President Zelensky’s position…” Posted by: frithguild | Jun 4 2026 2:16 utc | 78 John Gilberts | Jun 4 2026 0:59 utc | 73 Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Jun 4 2026 2:31 utc | 79 Gilbert Doctorow says
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 4 2026 3:14 utc | 80 frithguild | Jun 3 2026 20:57 utc | 44 Posted by: bevin | Jun 4 2026 3:14 utc | 81 *** it’s the Ukranazi (which means NATO) drones that are hammering and will continue to hammer Russia until it is brought to its knees unless the source is tackled. *** Posted by: frithguild | Jun 4 2026 4:02 utc | 82 Russia will live in conditions of war for another 20–30 years. The world is already in the phase of a global conflict, and the next 20 years for Russia will become a time of constant confrontation. An era of wars in Asia, bio-wars and drone wars is coming — stated MGIMO professor, SVR colonel Andrey Bezrukov. Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 4 2026 5:06 utc | 83 @frithguild | Jun 3 2026 20:57 utc | 44 The Polish-West Ukrainian Conflict Over East Galicia in 1918−1919 Yves here. Europeans, and arguably even more so eastern Europeans, are acutely aware of their national and ethnic histories. This short Polish-Ukrainian conflict in east Galacia played a key role in souring relations between the people in the two areas. Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 4 2026 5:38 utc | 84 Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 3 2026 21:57 utc | 55 Posted by: unimperator | Jun 4 2026 6:24 utc | 85 @MiniMO | Jun 3 2026 21:31 utc | 50
With tempers flaring, aren’t many missing something more interesting than the back-and-forth yelling. Do you have a source for this? I’m not convinced that ends-justify-the-means whitewashes the Chechen Wars, but instructive to know how it all went down.
Yes they were; and again and again, until the takfiris all ended up in Idlib Jihad Paradise. At which point Russia quietly disengaged from the war, saying “LOL we owned them, let them kill each other off; Time. Is. On. Russia’s. Side. after all.” The results are in.
This is just strange to me. We weren’t talking about climate change, or the human condition in general: we were talking about Estonian drone attacks on St. Petersburg. Whom do you consider to be in charge? Yes that Purkayastha fellow is trying to provoke everyone; isn’t he the Friendly Neighborhood Terrorist? If so, he admits it; let’s just chill.
Everyone knew this is how they’d respond to “patience.” If the wolves get away with attacking the Bear, then soon the foxes will join in; a while later the rats. How long before the butterflies conclude the bear isn’t all that? 🙂 Perhaps not so stupid that NATO. AFAIK, Moscow extended an open invitation for the “shadow fleet” to re-register under the Russian flag; doesn’t sound like that’d take forever. Are there technical problems, or do the shipowners think the Russian flag is meh if it can’t even protect St. Petersburg? We are just guessing until a shipping expert chips in. Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 4 2026 6:33 utc | 86 Russia will live in conditions of war for another 20–30 years. … stated MGIMO professor, SVR colonel Andrey Bezrukov.Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 4 2026 5:06 utc | 83 Posted by: rk | Jun 4 2026 6:42 utc | 87 Adding @85… Posted by: unimperator | Jun 4 2026 6:46 utc | 88 @frithguild | Jun 3 2026 20:57 utc | 44@bevin | Jun 4 2026 3:14 utc | 81 On Ukrainian Identity: Ukraine as a Buffer Zone Yves here. This article provides a useful complement to Putin’s many remarks about the history of Ukraine from a Russia perspective. It examines the forces that led to the formation of Ukraine as a “self-constructed identity” yet why it was left out until very late in the process of national formation along perceived or actual ethnic lines.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 4 2026 6:59 utc | 89 There are US mid-term elections on November 3, 2026. Trump’s popularity depends upon ending the Ukraine war before the elections.Expect a peace proposal from Ukraine before the US mid-term elections. If Russia accepts the peace proposal from Ukraine, there will be peace – until the day after the US elections, when hostilities will resume. Posted by: The Far Side | Jun 4 2026 7:00 utc | 90 @Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 4 2026 3:14 utc | 80
The passage you quote sounds like Dr. Doctorow was interviewed by someone semi-informed at best, with predictable results. The interviewer has adopted the Western framing that anything coming out of Moscow automatically is “Putin,” even when it was Medvedev blustering under his own name. We’re a bit in the dark because Moscow is not monolithic, with large bureaucracies and well-funded lobbies pulling it in every possible direction. Much like Washington or Brussels, except they don’t speak English in Moscow, which only adds to the mystique of the place. Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 4 2026 7:21 utc | 91 Re @ Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 4 2026 5:38 utc | 84 Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 4 2026 8:12 utc | 92 ATB supermarket warehouse in Dnipro, housing potential drone materials was hit, Nikopolska solar power plant damage by drone, Nova Poshta logistic center hit. Warehouse in village of Ladynka was hit, believed to house Patriot PAC2/3 missiles. Posted by: unimperator | Jun 4 2026 9:22 utc | 93
Posted by: Old Chinahand | Jun 4 2026 9:28 utc | 94 Es tut mir leid :
Posted by: Old Chinahand | Jun 4 2026 9:39 utc | 95 St. Putin’s 7D chess continues as usual with Russian casualties… ♟️😭 Posted by: Dingleberry | Jun 4 2026 10:49 utc | 96 Rutte/Nato is mocking Russia. They consider the Russian warning to EU/UK diplo missions to leave Kiev, and then them ‘declining’ to leave as a great victory for Nato.
Posted by: unimperator | Jun 4 2026 11:34 utc | 97 Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 4 2026 11:39 utc | 98 call out to unimperator and other Putin trolls, btw. where s Lovedonbas, drunk to death ? Posted by: unimporatorstinks | Jun 4 2026 11:55 utc | 99 Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 4 2026 11:39 utc | 98 Posted by: unimporatorstinks | Jun 4 2026 12:01 utc | 100 Leave a Comment |
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