Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
June 25, 2026
Ukraine Isn’t Winning

There is an ongoing Ukrainian propaganda campaign to depict the country as winning the conflict with Russia.

The campaign is accompanied by drone attacks on energy targets within Russia. While burning fuel tanks at this or that of many Russian refineries may look impressive the effects on Russia have so fare been mere nuances. Ongoing drone attacks on Crimea have led to inconveniences for the inhabitants of the island.

The Ukrainian campaign is supported by the Europeans who are trying to pull the U.S. back into the conflict. The U.S. however had never left. After the meeting between President Trump and President Putin in August 2025 in Anchorage there was talk about an agreement between the two presidents but no announcement of any specifics.

After the meeting Trump had called for Ukraine to leave the Donbas area to make peace with Russia. But he never applied any pressure to achieve that outcome. Meanwhile U.S. intelligence and weapon support for Ukraine continued.

For a while Russia had seemed to believe in the ‘sprit of Anchorage’ and had expressed hope for an end on the conflict along Trump’s proposal. That view has long since gone away.

Now U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio has officially dismissed any talk of an Anchorage agreement:

US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said that Russian President Vladimir Putin and his US counterpart Donald Trump failed to secure any final agreements on Ukraine settlement at their meeting in Anchorage.

“There was no agreement in Alaska. There was a proposal in Alaska, but there was no agreement in Alaska. If there had been an agreement, we would have had an end to the war,” Rubio told journalists in Manama, the capital of Bahrain, in the course of his state visit.

Now Rubio’s underling even declares that Ukraine is winning:

Speaking ahead of the Ukraine Recovery Conference in Gdańsk, US Deputy Secretary of State Jeremy Levin said the conflict has shifted in Kyiv’s favor, Mezha reported.

“As of now, we are in a position where Ukraine is winning the war at this moment” Levin said, adding that the situation on the battlefield has shifted in Kyiv’s favor, allowing Washington to speak about Ukraine’s success as a current reality instead of a distant goal.

Levin said that the conflict dynamics have reversed, with Ukrainian troops now advancing, while Russian forces are effectively waiting for winter. The shift in dynamics has been made possible by Ukraine’s ongoing strikes on critical oil infrastructure in Russia, essentially increasing the cost of the war for Moscow and forcing it to divert resources away from the front, he said.

The facts on the ground are contradicting the view of Mr. Levin. According to Ukrainian frontline news Russian troops are slowly but steadily gaining ground (machine translation):

Russian troops have occupied most of Kostiantynivka in the Donetsk region.

This was reported by a Ukrainian fighter with the call sign “Flour”.

According to him, Russian units are already using most of the city to accumulate personnel, drones and firepower.

Only certain microdistricts at the northwestern entrance to the city remain under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine or in the gray zone. At the same time, the line of contact continues to change rapidly.

Another noticeable advance, according to the military, was recorded in the Sloviansk direction. Russian units have established control over Yurkovka and continue fighting for Rai-Oleksandrivka (the Russian Federation claims that this village has already been captured).

At the same time, pressure is increasing in the Mykolaivka area, where Russian troops are trying to disrupt Ukrainian logistics with strikes on supply routes through Vysokoivanivka and on facilities in the area of the Slavyansk thermal power plant.

In the Pokrovsky direction, Russian forces, according to Muchnoy, occupied the Zaporizhzhia mine and advanced along the forest belts north of it. The situation in Rodinskoye is also complicated, where the northern part of the city was actually isolated.

At the same time, it is noted that Russian units are trying to turn this area into a local “bag”, controlling supply and movement routes with the help of drones and firepower.

The Ukrainian army is in its ever worst position. Moral is terrible, losses are high and the recruitment methods are getting more and more brutal.

The Ukrainian Commander in Chief General Syrski has long insisted on creating new ‘assault’ brigades instead of filling up the shrinking regular brigades which attempt to hold grounds.

A recent investigation by the Ukrainian outlet Babel reveals murder and torture in the recruit training camps of the 425th Assault Regiment Skala (Rock) (machine translation):

A battered head, torn hands, a chiseled lower back, dirty and broken fingers. In this state, 35-year-old Oleksandr Semenov came to the hospital in Kropyvnytskyi in January 2026. He said that he escaped from the 425th separate assault regiment “Rock”, where he was abused, beaten, tied to an ATV and dragged on the ground. In a video taken by local doctors, the man said that he witnessed at least nine suicides in the unit, briefly described their circumstances and named one of the dead. The video at Babel’s disposal was filmed on January 23, 2026, and a few days later, Oleksandr Semenov died in the hospital. The official cause of death is pneumonia.

“The Rock” is the largest assault regiment in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Unofficially, it is also called “Syrsky’s”. It is not part of any corps, but is directly subordinate to the high command. “The Rock” took part in the most difficult battles of the Russian-Ukrainian war. Despite this and combat merits, the regiment is often criticized by the military, journalists and relatives of those who got there. Due to accusations of heavy losses, the regiment has gained a reputation as “meat”. However, “The Rock” loses people not only on the battlefield, but even before combat — during military training – it counted 26 deaths.

The newly recruited soldiers, snatched from the streets, are living in guarded tents. Going to the toilet is only allowed in groups and under the eyes of an armed soldier. Grounds around the training camp are mined. Torture is routine. People who try to flee will be shot and/or get brutalized to death.

Strana reports that the “Rock” is far from the only such unit.

The mass death of Ukrainian soldiers due to torture while in training is probably what the State Department considers as ‘winning’.

Russia has meanwhile initiated a new campaign against Ukrainian transport infrastructure and logistics. Targets are locomotives, truck depots, large post office warehouses (which run Ukraine’s military logistics), oil storage facilities and petrol stations of which more than 150 have been destroyed so far.

The slow squeeze continues. Ukraine isn’t winning.

Comments

in the West—within the government, the military, and the police—the real power lies with Zionists;

Posted by: Cagliostro | Jun 26 2026 14:35 utc | 216
 
There we go, fixed it for you, no need to thank me.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 14:38 utc | 201

…standard terrorist activities that kill, on average, a handful of civilians every week via drone strikes.
 
Posted by: Mark Mosby | Jun 26 2026 13:20 utc | 185

Russian media outlet Nash Regnum cites figures published by the Russian Ambassador-at-Large Rodion Miroshnik: 41 Russian civilians, including 1 child, were killed and 250 Russian civilians, including 20 children, were wounded as a result of Ukrainian attacks during the week of June 15 – June 21.

Posted by: S | Jun 26 2026 14:48 utc | 202

Question: is it a coincidence that “Ukrainian” attacks on Russia’s oil and gas industry ramped up big time as soon as they announced shipments to Cuba?  Sounds like TrumpRubio treachery to me.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 26 2026 13:54 utc | 202
 
There are no coincidences. Very cool observation sir – hat tip

Posted by: frithguild | Jun 26 2026 14:49 utc | 203

So much bleating from so many sheep blinded by Western military thinking, the same Western military thinking that has been so successful in.. er.. well, where, exactly?
 
The same Western military thinking that leads to chaotic withdrawals, culminating in people scrambling for the last remaining helicopters.
 
Russia does military thinking differently. Sure, using Western metrics shows what appear to be shortcomings, but that is using Western military metrics, based on Western military thinking; anyone starting to see a problem here? See above for the outcomes of Western military metrics.
 
The only metrics that matter are the ones used by the Russian General Staff officers and planners. That is all that matters, the officers and planners certainly aren’t going to be swayed by the bleating of Western-blinded sheep, or wailing and gnashing of teeth by Russian 5th and 6th columnists.
 
Much of this comment thread is a waste of bandwidth.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 14:53 utc | 204

*** I kind of wish I had kept more details of these pushback incidents since they first started being reported, so as to try and establish a trend line. My feeling is that they first started appearing sporadically after the collapse of the Kursk incursion, which suggests the manpower shortages really were exacerbated by the losses in that ill-fated operation. But the frequency has definitely increased, from sporadic, to weekly, to daily, to days when multiple incidents occur all across Ukraine.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 14:26 utc | 214
 
Is it a coincidence that this uptic in incidents against TCC press gangs coincides with the worship of the bones of the Nazi architect of the 1943 Wolyn genocide?  

Posted by: frithguild | Jun 26 2026 14:54 utc | 205

Re: Attacks on TCC press gangs 
 
seems the locals know their Aleksandr Isaevič Solženicyn;

Posted by: Exile | Jun 26 2026 14:56 utc | 206

@ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 13:27 utc | 188
 
thanks for this and your other posts jeremy… they shed greater light on the internal situation in ukraine which appears to continue to deteriorate… 

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2026 14:58 utc | 207

Russian media outlet Nash Regnum cites figures published by the Russian Ambassador-at-Large Rodion Miroshnik: 41 Russian civilians, including 1 child, were killed and 250 Russian civilians, including 20 children, were wounded as a result of Ukrainian attacks during the week of June 15 – June 21.
Posted by: S | Jun 26 2026 14:48 utc | 220
 
 Strange. I looked at RT and Tass this morning. RT only mentions the number of drones shot down and Tass said one civilian was injured in yesterdays attack.
 Both articles are way down from the top.
 
PS; this board has now come very close to a pro  Ukrainian board I used to glance at. 

Posted by: arby | Jun 26 2026 15:02 utc | 208

Is it a coincidence that this uptic in incidents against TCC press gangs coincides with the worship of the bones of the Nazi architect of the 1943 Wolyn genocide?

Posted by: frithguild | Jun 26 2026 14:54 utc | 224
 
It pre-dates that distasteful episode, there’s been a steady uptrend for at least the last 18 months.
 
One thing that sickening display has done is to seriously rattle some Polish cages, causing a steep deterioration in sympathy for Ukraine among both ordinary Polish people as well as at least some of the government and MPs.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 15:03 utc | 209

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 15:03 utc | 229
It would be interesting to observe any peaks in anti TCC press gang incidents as correlated with reported news events. 
 
On the AI is propaganda front, here are results I got today:   
“are there any neo nazis among the Ukrainian expats in Europe?”
AI Overview
Yes, like in many European countries or large diasporas, there are individuals with far-right or neo-Nazi ideologies among Ukrainian expats and refugees. However, intelligence and security services emphasize that they represent a tiny, unrepresentative fraction of the millions of displaced Ukrainians, the vast majority of whom are women and children.
Voxeurop+4While extreme-right ideology exists among a small minority of the population in Ukraine (as it does across much of Europe and North America), it does not define the broader Ukrainian expat community. Security agencies in countries hosting large numbers of Ukrainian refugees, such as Denmark, have occasionally monitored or intervened in cases where small groups of young men displayed right-wing extremist or radical tendencies.
Reddit·r/europe+2The topic is sometimes exploited for political propaganda, as false narratives have circulated claiming that Ukrainian refugees are widely bringing Nazi ideology into the European Union. In reality, the overwhelming majority of Ukrainian expats are civilians seeking safety from the ongoing war.
EUvsDisinfo+2

Posted by: frithguild | Jun 26 2026 15:12 utc | 210

Lavrov was asked a very important question to which he gave a very complete answer:
 
Question: The other day, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said that during the meeting between Presidents Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump in Alaska, where the situation around Ukraine was discussed, a proposal was only made on an approach to a settlement, and there was never any agreement there. Could you comment on this situation?
 
Sergey Lavrov: Indeed, there are many questions on this topic. It is important to explain the situation as we see it. I hope this will be clear to the audience.
 
US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said that in Alaska there were only proposals, not agreements on a settlement in Ukraine. Therefore, they say, it is not clear why Moscow is so worried. The fact is that, if we take the full picture, about a few days before the meeting in Alaska, US Special Presidential Representative Stephen Witkoff was in Moscow, who brought the same proposals from President Donald Trump. We took them to work. President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin promised to give his reaction at the meeting in Alaska.
 
Already in Anchorage, when the two presidents “sat down to talk” (Marco Rubio and yours truly, were also there), President of Russia Vladimir Putin, looking at Stephen Whitkoff, who was also there, began to list the American proposals point by point. After each item, in the presence of US President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Mark Rubio, he asked Stephen Witkoff whether he had correctly marked the ideas that he had brought to Moscow on the eve of Anchorage.
 
To each of his questions, S. Witkoff answered positively. Therefore, when my colleague Marco Rubio says that there were only proposals in Alaska, but there was no agreement, I have a question from the point of view of what we mean by an agreement. If one side, in this case the United States, put on the table its proposals for a settlement, on how to approach this crisis, and the other side agreed with these proposals, then to say that there was no agreement is somehow not very elegant.
 
US Secretary of State Marco Rubio also said when he held another event somewhere in the Middle East that they are ready to take a step forward and play a constructive role if they have the opportunity. They say that uniting the parties and putting an end to this war is what US President Donald Trump has been trying to do for a year and a half.
 
Everything, probably, can be “counted” as confirmation that there were American proposals in Alaska that we accepted. But the quote I have just read raises a question from a different point of view. I am referring to Secretary of State Rubio’s recent speech at a congressional hearing, when he said that the United States cannot be a mediator because it supports Ukraine.
 
When there is an interest in the United States playing a constructive role and uniting the parties, this already sounds like a request for mediation.
 
Of course, we need to clarify this whole situation. But the fact remains: US proposals were discussed in Alaska, which were accepted by the Russian side. [My Emphasis]
 
Aha! Non-proposal proposals! The meeting prior to Anchorage Lavrov mentions was the all-nighter that gained so much publicity because of its length and its messengers. We all know Rubio’s merely a lying little twat having no real mind of his own as he proved in the Senate. If I propose marriage and the answer given is yes, that’s an agreement IMO. Russia wrote down the proposals, reviewed them all very specifically to ensure it had them correct, then did so again at Anchorage where they were again confirmed after which Russia agreed to some if not all of those proposals. Thus, the Anchorage Spirit was very similar to a wedding proposal to which the proposer is now backing away and trying to say those proposals were never made. Such behavior has great bearing on the Ukraine conflict and just as much on the talks surrounding the MOU, which was a proposal made by Iran that Trump agreed to, yet has tried to alter as if he made the proposal. The moral of the story: It’s nonsensical to make any sort of proposal to the Outlaw US Empire or to agree to any proposal it makes as it’s incapable of honoring either. IMO, the only thing to do is to cast that nation to the wind and let it twist and turn until it alters its behavior. 

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 26 2026 15:12 utc | 211

Strange. I looked at RT and Tass this morning. RT only mentions the number of drones shot down and Tass said one civilian was injured in yesterdays attack.
 
Posted by: arby | Jun 26 2026 15:02 utc | 228

Don’t believe Nash Regnum? Here’s RIA Novosti writing about Miroshnik’s report for the week of June 1 – June 7 (43 civilians killed):
 
Kiev reaches a new peak in the escalation of attacks on civilians, Miroshnik states (RIA Novosti, June 9, 2026 — in Russian)

The Kiev regime has reached a new peak in the escalation of attacks on Russian civilians since the beginning of 2026. Over the past week, 43 civilians were killed at the hands of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, stated Ambassador-at-Large of the Russian Foreign Ministry Rodion Miroshnik.
 
“The Kiev regime has reached a new peak in the escalation of attacks on civilians since the beginning of 2026. Over the past week, 277 civilians suffered as a result of deliberate actions by Ukrainian military formations, 43 of whom died. The average number of daily incoming munitions last week reached 677,” Miroshnik stated in his weekly report, available to RIA Novosti.
 
According to the Ambassador, Ukrainian armed formations fired at least 4,743 munitions at civilian targets on Russian territory during the week of June 1 – June 7.
 
The most tragically serious attack was the deliberate strike on a Moscow–Simferopol bus in the DPR, which killed eight people, he noted.
 
“Kiev militants, using drone attacks, attempted to block transport links on highways connecting settlements in Crimea, the DPR, and the Kherson and Zaporozhye oblasts,” Miroshnik noted.
 
The highest number of civilian casualties was recorded in the Belgorod oblast, the DPR, and the Zaporozhye, Kherson, and Bryansk oblasts, the Ambassador emphasized.
 
“Ukrainian militants attacked civilian targets in densely populated areas, which confirms the Kiev regime’s desire to inflict maximum harm on the civilian population and create unbearable living conditions for large numbers of civilians in entire regions, ignoring the norms and principles of international humanitarian law,” he concluded.

Posted by: S | Jun 26 2026 15:16 utc | 212

arby | Jun 26 2026 15:02 utc | 228
 
As usual during her weekly briefing, Maria Zakharova lists Russian civilian casualties. The link is to the official English transcript of the briefing:
 
Supported by its Western handlers, the neo-Nazi Kiev regime continues its campaign of terror against our country’s civilians and civilian infrastructure.
 
Casualties over the past week amounted to 296 civilians, of whom 47 people, including one child, were killed and 250, including 20 children, were injured.
 
Belgorod Region. Between June 18 and June 24, three people were killed and at least 29 wounded as a result of Ukrainian strikes.
 
Bryansk Region. During the same period, two people were killed by hostile UAV attacks, and four were injured, including two sisters aged 10 and 11 and an 11-year-old boy. Today, June 25, a Ukrainian kamikaze drone attacked a civilian vehicle near the village of Solova in the Starodub District. The 23-year-old driver and a 15-year-old girl died in the attack.
 
Voronezh Region. On June 22, six people were killed and 68 injured in a Ukrainian attack on Voronezh using Storm Shadow and SCALP missiles.
 
Donetsk People’s Republic. Between June 18 and June 24, five people were killed and at least 51 injured as a result of Ukrainian aggression. Eighteen of the injured were victims of a drone strike on a passenger bus in Gorlovka on June 22. Among the wounded were two boys born in 2014 and 2019 and a teenager born in 2008. On June 24, three people were killed in a strike on a block of flats in Gorlovka.
 
Zaporozhye Region. Between June 18 and June 24, five people were killed and at least eight injured by Ukrainian attacks, including two girls aged two and five.
 
Kursk Region. During the same period, two people were killed and at least five injured as a result of attacks by Bandera followers.
 
Lugansk People’s Republic. Two people were killed and two others injured in drone attacks during the same period.
 
Nizhny Novgorod Region. On the night of June 24, two people were killed and two injured in strikes by Ukrainian drones.
 
Republic of Crimea. On June 21, four people were killed and 28 injured in a Ukrainian UAV attack on the Kerch Peninsula, including on a ferry crossing.
 
Kherson Region. Between June 18 and June 24, five people were killed and around 30 injured, including a child born in 2020, as a result of Ukrainian shelling.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 26 2026 15:17 utc | 213

seems the locals know their Aleksandr Isaevič Solženicyn;

Posted by: Exile | Jun 26 2026 14:56 utc | 225
 
Wait until they remember about Che Guevara…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 15:18 utc | 214

@karlof1–
 Thank you. That is pretty serious stuff. Little wonder the anger pointed out about the seeming inaction or non existant retaliation is so strong.

Posted by: arby | Jun 26 2026 15:25 utc | 215

@ karlof1 | Jun 26 2026 15:17 utc | 215
 
thanks karl… russia is going to have to deal directly with the drone war asap… i see no way out of them attacking the gatekeepers – nato – here…  this is insane… russia-ukraine is this big war gear experiment that needs to end asap… all the international players need to be held accountable asap… 

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2026 15:28 utc | 216

@ james | Jun 26 2026 14:58 utc | 226
 
I’ll admit that sometimes I think “Shall I bother?”, but then we get threads like this, where seemingly 9 out of 10 posts consist entirely of pseudo-psychoanalysis of Vladimir Putin, with posters pretending to know how he thinks, what motivates him and what his aims/goals are, and I think “Time to ground things with some actual news of actual events”.
 
The weird thing about all these amateur psychoanalysts is they disregard the real agency of the Russian General Staff in setting goals, making plans and measuring the outcomes according to the political objectives set by the entire Russian government, with oversight from the Duma. I’m afraid this is something that John Helmer sometimes falls foul of as well.
 
Somebody might be getting some things wrong here, and I suspect it is the armchair amateurs. As an example, what would a third-rate cartoonist know about detailed military planning, let alone the briefings back and forth between the branches of the military and the political bodies.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 15:29 utc | 217

@ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 15:29 utc | 218
 
well, i for one appreciate your posts which  offer greater perspective here.. it seems to me speculation is rampant and everyone has a tendency to believe their own viewpoint is right, but don’t think they can contemplate that they don’t see everything or that they could instead hold off with all their premature conclusions.. i am guilty of this too, but try not to take my own position as seriously as some others… losing perspective is not helpful…  thanks again for your commentary… 

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2026 15:47 utc | 218

ps, i have become less enamoured of helmer as of late…  

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2026 15:50 utc | 219

Posted by: O R | Jun 26 2026 13:21 utc | 183
 
Clear picture, thank you for sharing it!

Posted by: Konami | Jun 26 2026 16:01 utc | 220

ps, i have become less enamoured of helmer as of late…

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2026 15:50 utc | 221
 
Well, to be fair, I used to read him quite regularly 10 or 12 years ago and found that sometimes I got genuine value and sometimes I’d have a “Wait a minute, what am I reading here?” moment; the latter gradually started to outweigh the former.
 
I once broke my lurking cover at The Saker (under a different screen name back then) and, in all innocence, asked a question about one or other of Helmer’s articles; fair to say this wasn’t universally welcomed there, so I stuck to lurking afterwards, but kept in mind the information provided, not just by Andrei Saker but some of the long-standing commenters there.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 16:01 utc | 221

In response to

ps, i have become less enamoured of helmer as of late…  
Posted by: james | Jun 26 2026 15:50 utc | 221

 
There is hope for you then…….grin
I stayed out of the earlier fray but now will start another by saying I don’t watch Sachs because I just don’t trust him but lots of folks hang on his every word….whatever
 
Larry Johnson says the next major global conflict is going to be EU/Ukraine/Russia and not ME…….maybe China will ring fence Taiwan, eh?…../s
 
I also heard Larry Johnson mention the radioactive whatever in Odessa recently and that sounds serious so will be looking for more about that.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 26 2026 16:02 utc | 222

Posted by: Jim Jatras | Jun 26 2026 14:30 utc | 215
 
Take a chillpill and calm down😉
 
There were a few bizarre posts here that had to be deleted but just Like You I don’t understand why Jim Jatras‘ post has been removed. Presumably a mistake. 

Posted by: Lesjeuxsontfaits | Jun 26 2026 16:06 utc | 223

As far as dead civilians go, if it isn’t giving the Russians any sense of urgency then I am certainly not going to get concerned about it. Different cultures value life differently and apparently Slavs view themselves as disposable as Palestinians. If they want to run their war from that perspective then who am I to complain about it?

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 26 2026 16:11 utc | 224

Quite odd.
My Post adressed Burak and not Jim Jatras. 

Posted by: Lesjeuxsontfaits | Jun 26 2026 16:16 utc | 225

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 26 2026 16:02 utc | 223

I don’t watch Sachs because I just don’t trust him but lots of folks hang on his every word

Not specifically about you but that’s a pattern I see often: there is a large spectrum between `hanging on every word of Sachs’ and `all that Sachs says is untrustworthy’.
 
Because few will admit that they ‘hang on his every word’ anyway, you’ve written in hyperbole. Other common hyperbole that I like even less: “Nobody on this forum thinks of X” and “Everybody here says Y”. Statements of this kind are always wrong and warrant ignoring the entire posting at once. In this sense, they’re helpful 🙂
 
Back to Sachs: he was one of boys from the Chicago school that played a horrible role in the neoliberal massacre (“transformation”) of Eastern Europe and especially Russia. Sachs is candid about it and, I believe, has tried to apologise. I don’t know because I don’t follow him. The few bits that I read were his open letters to Germany and those are, while hopelessly naive, excellent. He has no chance to instill sanity into the political class but he tries anyway. And does a good job: he hopefully reaches people not in the supposed audience.
 
From your phrasing we now know you’re anti-Sachsist and don’t acknowledge or accept his supposed change of stance. Good for you. But why tell us? Will I have to open future postings with: “I am pro-Röper and anti-Helmer.”

Posted by: Konami | Jun 26 2026 16:35 utc | 226

psychohistorian | Jun 26 2026 16:02 utc | 223
 
You’ll want to read this Global Times editorial related to the Taiwan issue.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 26 2026 16:42 utc | 227

*** 9 out of 10 posts consist entirely of pseudo-psychoanalysis of Vladimir Putin, ***
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 15:29 utc | 218
 
The population of the Russian Federation is 123 million Putins. 
 
Anthropomorphizing a large group or entity makes it easier to dehumanize. Propaganda 101.
 
My brain flashes a “no useful pattern, waste of energy” warning whenever I see a statement that attributes a human emotion to a corporate or political entity, especially if the entity is presented as the personality of a particular person.  That’s all stuff for stupid people. 

Posted by: frithguild | Jun 26 2026 16:50 utc | 228

Pubblicato da: frithguild | 26 giu 2026 16:50 utc | 229
Thanks for the confirmation; you’re the first in the series,
with others to follow.
The comments regarding “God Putin” stem overwhelmingly from his apparent actions on the international stage; if the Russians don’t have anyone better, so be it—
the same thing happens in Italy, where a waitress holds the office of Prime Minist
er.

Posted by: Cagliostro | Jun 26 2026 17:02 utc | 229

*** The few bits that I read were his open letters to Germany and those are, while hopelessly naive, excellent. He has no chance to instill sanity into the political class but he tries anyway. ***
Posted by: Konami | Jun 26 2026 16:35 utc | 227
 
You have perfectly described what makes Sachs a perfect fit as on faculty at Columbia. Once you understand that, and accept that Sachs is very well read and at best informed three levels away from actual policy formulation or execution, you have a clear window into the temperature of the soft neocon US foreign policy establishment. Always a super interesting listen. 

Posted by: frithguild | Jun 26 2026 17:04 utc | 230

Anthropomorphizing a large group or entity makes it easier to dehumanize. Propaganda 101.

Posted by: frithguild | Jun 26 2026 16:50 utc | 229
 
Yes, a trap that all too many posting here (and elsewhere) fall into. What most of these “all too many” overlook is Putin, as President, is accountable under the Russian Constitution. Speculating here, but I believe he understands his accountability and deeply respects the Constitution, is guided by it in all he does and says.
 
He is certainly under more accountability than Zelensky and arguably more than the carousel of carbon-copy caricatures that we in the West are presented with as “leaders”.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 17:06 utc | 231

The winning is proceeding according to the best laid plans.
 

The European Union will refuse to assist young Ukrainians who have left the country. The European Commission will exclude men of conscription age from Ukraine from those who automatically receive temporary protection in EU countries. The decision is intended to be made at the request of Volodymyr Zelensky.
 
The EU does not consider the denial of asylum to Ukrainians fit for the frontline as discrimination, said European Commissioner for Home Affairs and Migration, Magnus Brunner.
 
https://t.me/two_majors/78095
 
 

Posted by: too scents | Jun 26 2026 17:06 utc | 232

Ukrainians attacking civilians and proud of it.
I don’t see any difference between the behaviour of Israhell or Ukraine.
 

Posted by: Mann Friedmann | Jun 26 2026 17:08 utc | 233

Putin lovers aren’t going to like this news…
if Emil Cosman is also starting to pounce on this unpatriotic Russian leader, the shit is going to hit very soon.https://youtu.be/7UNIpBdhl7U?si=4hpARPsirniCbk2G
 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 26 2026 17:10 utc | 234

if Emil Cosman is also starting to pounce on this unpatriotic Russian leader, the shit is going to hit very soon

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 26 2026 17:10 utc | 235
 
How is commentary from a Romanian ex-pat with a degree in sociology from Michigan State University supposed to be so “game-changing”?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 17:17 utc | 235

The Spanish government is bringing 50 Spanish companies to Kyiv to participate in Ukraine’s reconstruction. to encourage their participation in defense, renewable energy, and railway projects. The government has set up a 200 million euro financing line.
The first project funded through the new credit line is by the Basque company Tria; it has a budget of 5.4 million and aims to provide technology that enables automatic track gauge changes on freight trains.
(Spanish)
 
The gauge of EU and Ukrainian railway cars differs. This is a project to supply more arms from EU to Ukraine faster, and we’re calling it “reconstruction”. Hypocrisy at its European best. Franco would have approved.

Posted by: The Far Side | Jun 26 2026 17:19 utc | 236

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 26 2026 17:10 utc | 235

the internet has given everyone their 15 minutes of fame. Cosman probably has more followers for his opinions on Novak Djokovic than anything else.
 
Same for Nima Akorshid and Pascal Lottaz (neutrality studies, brilliant con of whatever university considered awarding a doctorate for what should really be an undergrad seminar). The same carousel of media personalities just getting patreon money to talk online and be lauded as analysts. The point is to change the world and all this BS is just opiate for the masses. 

Posted by: altruisticpunisher | Jun 26 2026 17:25 utc | 237

How is commentary from a Romanian ex-pat with a degree in sociology from Michigan State University supposed to be so “game-changing”?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 17:17 utc | 236
 
 
 
Surprise, surprise it will not.  For a couple of reasons.   First off, those truly in the ‘I ❤️Putin’ camp are just like Drumpft MAGA’s they will not desert of ole’ Roten Tooten just over a video on YouTube.
 
 
Second and most important, it is obvious western propaganda effort.  The guy in the video , as it was put a ‘a Romanian ex-pat educate in the USA’ is sus plus he says the source he based his entire video on was a Russian military officer for the first 10 minutes, then the source magically becomes ex-military officer with no explanation about the ‘ex’ part of why he is no longer in the military.
 
 
 
The entire video stinks of a poorly executed propaganda effort that a 5 year old could see through.

Posted by: drsmith | Jun 26 2026 17:31 utc | 238

Crimean authorities have declared a state of emergency amid Ukrainian attacks, energy shortages, etc – reports

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 26 2026 17:31 utc | 239

2011 Julian Assange “goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tax bases of the US and Europe through Afghanistan and back into the hands of a transnational security elite. The goal is an endless war, not a successful war.” replace the country to suit the discussion, the goal remains the same

Posted by: Scott | Jun 26 2026 17:36 utc | 240

@ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 16:01 utc | 222 // psychohistorian | Jun 26 2026 16:02 utc | 223
 
the problem with john helmer and all the talking heads is they say a lot and demand one asks questions of why they hold the position they do regularly… but the positive is you are forced to ask questions which i think is ultimately a good thing… as i mentioned to juliania a while ago i have sort of sworn off of watching videos, but will read transcripts… i think everyone who functions as a video broadcaster has some legitimacy as opposed to someone like myself who only posts on moa for the most part… however it doesn’t mean one has to believe everything they say… jeffrey sachs says a lot of relevant things too as i see it..  i find i have less time for processing it all..
 
what larry johnson says rings true to me – the next major conflict is between russia and europe, which is essentially the ongoing russia-nato conflict, but maybe more isolated.. russia has to bring this to the europeans directly at this point.. that is how i see it… obviously until russia does so – someone in russian command sees it differently…  i respect russias overall position, but i think it is becoming increasingly untenable… so, we’ll see… 

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2026 17:39 utc | 241

The subject of demographics was discussed  here a long time ago – but it’s worth an update after hackers exposed Ukr. losses.  They had a low birth rate before the war and now it must be catastrophic. Most refugees don’t want to return (polls).   It would interesting to do projections that include recent revelations.  A defeated Ukraine would have the advantage of drugs addicts and the mentally challenged being exterminated via conscription but if they lose a huge % of young men who could be fathers, perhaps Russia gets a permanent solution to the war.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 26 2026 17:43 utc | 242

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 26 2026 15:12 utc | 211
Thank you once again Karl for your careful detailed analysis of Sergei Lavrov’s replies to questions asked of him about the agreements reached in Alaska. Of course, the USA’s mendacity through its integrity-free and morally bankrupt agents, Trump, Vance, Rubio et al, is nothing new and as has been stated on many occasions, by many posters, the US is incapable of honouring agreements if it suits. So even if the agreement had been signed, as a formal agreement, it would be simply disregarded if it suited the US. As we see so cogently with the so-called Iran-US MOU. 
 
As we in the UK swelter in untypical hot summer weather, there’s little to do but read. Thanks alos to james, Jeremy Rhyming-Slang, bevin and many others who don’t presume to be military geniuses but who are capable of expressing clear, concise and accurate conclusions based on evidence to support their expositions. Not some knee-jerk recitation of their cognitive dissonant world view. 

Posted by: Vragtes | Jun 26 2026 17:50 utc | 243

According to Reuters, Russian “hawks” are calling for a rejection of negotiations, escalation, and nuclear strikes.
 
▪️ Hawks in Russia are urging the country’s leadership to abandon a diplomatic solution and move toward a broader escalation of the conflict.
 
▪️ The intensification of these demands is linked to Ukrainian drone attacks on Russia and dissatisfaction with the United States’ failure to provide fair mediation for Moscow.
 
▪️ Some figures within radical circles are publicly advocating for the harshest possible measures, including massive strikes against Ukraine and abandoning the negotiation process.
 
▪️ However, according to the agency’s sources, the Kremlin does not yet support such proposals and keeps the door open for a diplomatic resolution to the conflict.
 
▪️ Analysts interviewed by Reuters believe that this rhetoric could raise public expectations for further escalation and complicate political decision-making.

Posted by: Cagliostro | Jun 26 2026 17:52 utc | 244

“Anyone not a blind Putin cultist is a troll.”
 
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 26 2026 1:30 utc | 111
 
I don’t see how being a Jewish Conspiracy cultist is an improvement.  It’s crazy to believe that Jewish conspiracies are behind any problems one might have with Putin’s conduct of the war…
 
BTW:
 
Didn’t the Russian MoD deny that Kupyansk was recaptured by the Ukranazis? 
 
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 26 2026 1:36 utc | 113
 
No, the Russian Minister of Defense denied that Kupyansk was recaptured by the Ukrainians instead…
 
The European politicians are also trying to get their weary electorates fired up to supporting them in their crusade against Russia. 
 
Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 26 2026 9:05 utc | 163
 
Putin is the best propaganda out there to rally for a “crusade” against Russia.  Get rid of him and work to dismantle the oligarchic and corrupt rule that has held Russia during Yeltsin/Putin/Medvedev’s administrations and the propaganda disappears.  The same goes in Red China.  Get rid of the Communists there as well, and the hard liners who have esoteric geopolitical reasons for a crusade against Russia and China will have no more supporters.  
 
But of course there isn’t any fuel shortage in Crimea. Right?
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Jun 26 2026 11:25 utc | 174
 
B said that the fuel shortage is just an inconvenience.   Even though “inconveniences” are fueling widespread condemnation  in the United States of Trump’s Special Military Operation against Iran

Posted by: TopaInka | Jun 26 2026 17:55 utc | 245

*** He is certainly under more accountability than Zelensky and arguably more than the carousel of carbon-copy caricatures that we in the West are presented with as “leaders”.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 17:06 utc | 232
 
Perfectly stated.
 
This entire destabilize Russia crowd has no appreciation for the old “be careful what you wish for” saying. The RF is not Lybia – the loss of 27 million lives spent in singlehandedly defeating Nazism (The US did nothing more than claim a share of the corpse) is in the direct memory of many Russians alive today. The Russian culture has been shaped by centuries of repelling invasions. A destabilisation of the present government will be infinitely more revanchist and rightly so, not a bunch of rainbows and inicorn femmes. 
 
Its embarrassing how stupid the “weaken russia” crowd within the US is. 

Posted by: frithguild | Jun 26 2026 17:57 utc | 246

too scents@233
 
The EU apparatchiks are disgusting 

Posted by: ArmChairGeneral | Jun 26 2026 18:05 utc | 247

 karlof121
 

One last note is the destabilization seen in Eastern Europe between Bulgaria, Hungary, and Poland with Ukraine.             

 
Getting ready to carve up Ukraine? Can’t grab land if relations are rosy, have to get some rancor going. Maybe?

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 26 2026 18:48 utc | 248

This entire destabilize Russia crowd has no appreciation for the old “be careful what you wish for” saying. The RF is not Lybia – the loss of 27 million lives spent in singlehandedly defeating Nazism (The US did nothing more than claim a share of the corpse) is in the direct memory of many Russians alive today. The Russian culture has been shaped by centuries of repelling invasions. A destabilisation of the present government will be infinitely more revanchist and rightly so, not a bunch of rainbows and inicorn femmes.
Its embarrassing how stupid the “weaken russia” crowd within the US is.

Posted by: frithguild | Jun 26 2026 17:57 utc | 247
 
Yes to all of that; plus another “modern” factor coming into play is the generation now reaching the age of majority that has no direct memory of the depredations and depravity of the 1990s, but will have grown up seeing the environment around them gradually being repaired, restored and improved as they grew. They will not be of a mind to let anyone destroy all that easily.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 18:50 utc | 249

I stayed out of the earlier fray but now will start another by saying I don’t watch Sachs because I just don’t trust him but lots of folks hang on his every word….whatever
 
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 26 2026 16:02 utc | 223
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Not to argue here but just curious why you don’t trust (Jeffrey) Sachs.
 
I read and listen to him and am generally impressed by him. I suppose he could be accused of being naive, as someone upthread here did, but that’s not so bad a thing.
 
His address to the European Parliament last year was really something: basically admonishing them to stand on their own two feet, ignore the imprecations and enticements of NATO and the U.S., and start talking to Moscow. I don’t see how anyone could argue with any of that.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 26 2026 19:00 utc | 250

*** the generation now reaching the age of majority that has no direct memory of the depredations and depravity of the 1990s, but will have grown up seeing the environment around them gradually being repaired, restored and improved as they grew. They will not be of a mind to let anyone destroy all that easily. ***
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 18:50 utc | 250
 
If you are speaking of “this generation” as within the RF i would be overjoyed. From where I sit such an observation is basically impossible. 
 
The generation now coming if age in the US gives me great hope. They recognize the utter and revolting failure of the boomers, at whose feet I lay responsibility for the death of 2.4 Ukranian men. They generation are libertarian (having had their innocence stolen by the covid dictatorship), resultingly anti war and desiring the clarity and benefit of Christianity. Call it the Charlie Kirk effect – antiboomers – love them. 
 

Posted by: frithguild | Jun 26 2026 19:09 utc | 251

Of course, Ukr is winning, and it’s winning hard.  :DDDDDDDDD
https://mskvremya.ru/article/2026/2401-khakery-vzloma-bazy-vsu-poteri-ukrainy-svo-putin
NATO has enough Ukrainians left for two more years of SMO, tops.

Posted by: Dragon Ball Z | Jun 26 2026 19:51 utc | 252

Seems to me Europe and Trump have made up after their quarrel failing support for Iran war.
 
Ukraine is a frontline state for American aggression across the globe … a terror state as buffer for the EU against the Russian Federation … more than severing ties by blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines.
 
 

Germany, France, Britain, Italy and Poland pledge to maintain pressure on Russia and strengthen financial backing for Kiev ahead of NATO talks in Türkiye.

 
 
Rutte promised tens of billions new defense spending contracts by NATO with Trump’s USA.
 
Trump’s war is the Greater Middle East after been suckered into the Iran War 2025-26. The very wealthy GCC countries will carry the bill of war.
 
For Ukraine, Europe will step up and continue Biden’s war as the U.S. will stay at Europe’s side with key targeting intelligence and supply of military goods paid for by the EU states.
 
How is European suffering from gross economic setbacks? The rightwing populist votes will perform well.

Posted by: Oui | Jun 26 2026 19:55 utc | 253

what larry johnson says rings true to me – the next major conflict is between russia and europe…
Posted by: james | Jun 26 2026 17:39 utc | 242
 
Yes, all Americans want that and they repeat it everywhere they can. It’s just propaganda for their own. 
The Magachurch of Baku mixed with former experts, inspectors and other former heads demand from Russia to start a war with Euronato right now.
Problem is no one cares if you look at their views. Bard of Baku sinks views where he’s invited by 4x. A blank video makes more views as calming silence. Why they repeat the same record (Us is peace, Europe is evil) when no one is watching? Simple answer: because they get paid.
And they praise Putin all day long. But can they say anything else? No, Putin makes them and Ukr 100% safe. Why would they focus on the front line war and nothing else? Because they want terrorism to grow unrestricted to force Putin to hit someone which ain’t Us. Unfortunately for their plan the school was hit by starlink drones. Now none of them is talking about it anymore, event erased.
If something happens, it should happen under Medvedev the second, aka I-hate-Barents-sea or Kiril the first, aka The-exchange-potato. 

Posted by: rk | Jun 26 2026 19:56 utc | 254

@ rk | Jun 26 2026 19:56 utc | 255
 
i understand your first sentence but have a hard time following the rest… regardless of what others want, i would like to see this conflict end.. i don’t know how it is going to end.. it might have to get much bigger before it ends.. we’ll see…

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2026 20:09 utc | 255

Long range drone strikes are pinching Russia. On Crimea AFU released a video of some radars being hit, but knowing them those videos could be accumulated over a period of months and rehashed.
 
The main focus here is a big portion of AFU remnants will get surrounded/rekt in Druzhovka and Slavyansk. It’s like a big open air POW camp now. RUAF will just maneuver carefully around it and cut it off from different directions.
 
That is the real game changer in the Ukraine war no one in the west for understandable reasons wants to talk about. Their proxy army is completely crushed. Next will come advances toward Pavlograd from south and east, Izyum from SE and then toward Kharkov. The Kharkov front is being unified from Kupyansk, Vovchansk and coming in from the Lyman direction.
 
There seems to be little possibilities for AFU to hold Sumy.

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 26 2026 20:37 utc | 256

I hope that the Russians have something up their sleeve (like the Tet offensive) to wipe the smirks off their faces. ;O)

Posted by: Squeeth | Jun 26 2026 20:55 utc | 257

“Zelenskyy declares 40-day Russia blitz to influence the aggressor state”

Posted by: Oui | Jun 26 2026 20:59 utc | 258

Germany’s army chief, Lieutenant General Christian Freuding, earlier stressed that according to intelligence agreed by all 32 NATO member states, Germany and its allies should be fully prepared to wage a conventional war with Russia by 2029. The leaders of the EU and NATO have intensified their coordination toward a plan of increasing military spending at an accelerated rate. Earlier this month, the United Kingdom announced an increase in expenditure to 2.5-3% of GDP, citing the potential risk of a clash with Russia in four years.
 
Meanwhile, Ukrainian troops have been playing the role of a battering ram against Russia. “Over recent decades, Western funds, including European, have actively invested in supporting radical nationalist movements, mostly in western and central Ukraine, as they formed a layer of Ukrainian nationalists who were actively transforming into neo-Nazi movements.” [Source: TASS]

Posted by: Oui | Jun 26 2026 21:07 utc | 259

re: Emil Cosman,
 
Out of all the pro-Putin (ex) analysts, he’s the only one that could be divinely commisioned, who likes to feel the equalizer, and will shoot a baboon, plays with guns (ak-47’s), loading a magazine with 7.63x39mm cartridges on a youtube podcast, while drinking wine, going over the mumba jumbo political bullshit news, tells people to go suck a dick if you don’t like him!  – heck! this is fucking entertainment! we need more of it!  to much serious bs out there. 
 
If you like alot of profanity, little cock and balls slurs thrown in during podcasts, rather than the conservative bullshit like Nima (personally not a big fan, he doesn’t even live in Iran)  and Larry spit out daily, and can really suck ex-cia holes.  He’s the dude! 
 
 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 26 2026 21:19 utc | 260

re: Emil Cosman,

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 26 2026 21:19 utc | 261
 
Well, I had never heard of him before, and I can’t recall anyone else linking to his output, so I checked into his background (via his own website, no less) and decided he is not worth bothering with.
 
At least with the likes of Johnson, Davis, Nixon, Ritter and Martyanov we are not relying on a sociology degree from a mid-level university inferring credibility.
 
Beware of joining in with the accusations of cultism that have been flying around, while falling into the same trap yourself.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 21:43 utc | 261

His address to the European Parliament last year was really something: basically admonishing them to stand on their own two feet, ignore the imprecations and enticements of NATO and the U.S., and start talking to Moscow. I don’t see how anyone could argue with any of that.
 
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 26 2026 19:00 utc | 251

 
Since Sachs spoke to a nearly empty hall, there wasn’t much occasion for argument.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 26 2026 21:44 utc | 262

TROLL alert!  
 
 
Is that all you guys have as a response?  SMH
 
 
 
Listen, we want Russia to succeed, and America should focus on North America only BUT…
 
 
 
It has been 4 years, and Russia is still struggling to take places like Lyman?  Russia took this territory early in this war and lost it to a ukrainian counterattack.  All we get are excuses, that Putin is playing 26-D chess, this is a war of attrition, now we have drones everywhere and on and on.  Russian military has the means to overwhelm certain sectors of this front line while holding others and just destroy these ukie hideouts one by one.  Why they are not doing this is beyond me.
 
 
 
 
As since this war has dragged on now over 4 years, al we are seeing is NATO getting bolder and bolder using drones to attack now.  And guess what, NATO is hitting targets deep inside Russia while Russia DOES NOTHING IN RESPONSE.  That is a failure from the top.
 
 
 
 
Putin is a great leader, a statesman, but he is too liberal to lead the conduct of this war.  He seeks hugs and b-day wishes to Trump that is busying authorizing more weapons, more drones and more intel to strike deep into Russia.  That should be ended, like now.  Putin thinks he can get some Iran deal with the West.  Good luck with that.
 
 
 
 
If this war drags out much longer, sorry to say, but Russia will lose.  NATO found new ways to hit Russia with massive drone strikes, 25,000 sanctions and hijacking any tankers carrying Russian oil products.  These drones are impacting Russia, forcing fuel imports from the Stan’s, halting exports and now hitting major military industrial factories.  Heck, NATO struck a Strategic Air Base destroying nuclear bombers, hit multiple Strategic Early Warning Radars, sent drones after Putin’s residence and even struck a dome at the Kremlin.     
 
 
 
 
This is embarrassing for Russia.  Not one NATO facility, not one NATO AWACS or Global hawk gets even intercepted, my gosh that shows WEAKNESS.  The message is being sent, NATO seeks to destroy Russia’s early warning and strategic bases to put Russia into a position that their nuclear deterrence is weakened so much, that Russia will be forced to the negotiating table. And that is precisely what is happening dragging this thing 5 years now.  
 
 
 
 
Russia has a nuclear deterrence for a reason, USE IT.  Set an actual RED LINE and back it with tactical nuclear weapons.  If NATO keeps moving, you move to strategic nukes and use the tactical ones in ukranine to send that message.  Russia needs new, stronger leadership that will stand up to NATO and not allow daily drone after drones strikes killing Russians.
 
 
 
 
 
Russia is being attacked by NATO, so you can claim “troll” or 26-D chess al you want, it is not working because slowly NATO is getting the upper hand.  I see NOTHING out of Moscow that states they intend to win this war.  Russia is seeking a diplomatic solution where ukraine remains and NATO moves in closer for the kill.  Kiev needs to be leveled, sorry, but until that happens, good luck Russia. NATO will keep attacking and keep coming.    

Posted by: OXI | Jun 26 2026 22:06 utc | 263

Since Sachs spoke to a nearly empty hall, there wasn’t much occasion for argument.
 
Posted by: malenkov | Jun 26 2026 21:44 utc | 263
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Dunno about that.
 
Here’s the video of Sach’s address to the Yurpeen Parliament. Look at it near the end, about 1:23. Plenty of members in attendance.
 

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 26 2026 22:12 utc | 264

More warmed-up leftover soup, with added white space seasoning…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 22:18 utc | 265

Cynic | Jun 26 2026 13:10 utc | 181
Good that you mention the Chabad connection; The shielding of oligarchs of Jewish persuasion and of other Jewish personalities like Mogilevich, on one hand and the well known connection of Jared Kushner to the Chabad-Lubavichers – on the other hand – those are troubling facts which hinder understanding of what Putin is all about.
 
However, the China policy of Putin is a different story which needs to be included if one wants to understand it all. I do not believe that Putin is deceiving the Chinese and he is balancing between several very powerful poles in the Russian politics. The Russian – Jewish mafia is one of them.

Posted by: fanto | Jun 26 2026 22:28 utc | 266

The comments regarding “God Putin” stem overwhelmingly from his apparent actions on the international stage; if the Russians don’t have anyone better, so be it—the same thing happens in Italy, where a waitress holds the office of Prime Minister.
Posted by: Cagliostro | Jun 26 2026 17:02 utc | 230
 
*****************
 
Maybe you are correct, and Russia and Italy really are led by the best their country has.
 
The question as to whether an ex-waitress or an ex-KGB chief leads best remains to answered, but ‘early’ results indicate some clarity is surfacing…

Posted by: General Factotum | Jun 26 2026 22:31 utc | 267

OXI | Jun 26 2026 22:06 utc | 264
*** Kiev needs to be leveled, sorry, but until that happens, good luck Russia. NATO will keep attacking and keep coming. ***
 
More point in flattening Lvov, since it is Galician and would have to be re-constructed by whoever ended up with that region (probably not Russia).  

Posted by: Cynic | Jun 26 2026 22:59 utc | 268

OXI | Jun 26 2026 22:06 utc | 264
*** Kiev needs to be leveled, sorry, but until that happens, good luck Russia. NATO will keep attacking and keep coming. *** 
 
More point in flattening Lvov, since it is Galician and would have to be re-constructed by whoever ended up with that region (probably not Russia).
 
Posted by: Cynic | Jun 26 2026 22:59 utc | 269

 
One of the things I like about the Russian approach is that Russia feels no need to resort to war crimes. How depressing it must be for you two that despite this self-restriction, Russia is winning.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 26 2026 23:09 utc | 269

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 26 2026 13:27 utc | 185
 
I still see Alaska as a plus, Tom.  The difference between Alaska and Minsk is that in Alaska there was no ceasefire.    Lavrov has explained the process which began in Moscow and concluded in Alaska.  That the US then, after agreeing to no ceasefire, and persisting with  its own plans rather than keeping to an apparent agreement was not an unexpected result.  A very disappointing one, but the Russians came, they did as much as they could safely do.  They honored their comrades from WW2 and were respectfully received by Orthodox clerics in Alaska.  Their mission was peace.  That’s history.
 
As currently the Iranians do in facing threats from Israel.  Each hews to international law, without which, without the respect both gain from doing so, we would all be lost.  

Posted by: juliania | Jun 26 2026 23:13 utc | 270

this was probably already linked, but here it is again just in case… scott ritter from yesterday on geo politics – a transcript! 
 
Peace Will Be Won on the Battlefield
 
key quote relevant to my earlier comment – 

 
“President Putin was openly dismissive of those who postulated the need to expand the conflict into Europe.”

 

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2026 23:30 utc | 271

Regarding the Sachs address to the EU Parliament, he referred to Gorbachev as “greatest leader of the 20th Century. That says it all for Sachs.  But if that is not enough, what about millions in excess deaths in RU during 1990’s, due to shock therapy program that Sachs was involved in, and if he objected to its implementation technique, he should have stood down.

Posted by: Bruce | Jun 26 2026 23:36 utc | 272

Can we get back to Iran? Everyone knows Russia is losing the Ukraine war because Russia lost the PR war. That’s what the global south knows.
Everybody knows Ukraine has full control of Russian airspace and can even target individual cars on Russian roads. Nobody knows Russia is blowing up Ukraine train locomotives and petrol stations because Russia thinks it’s too secret to brag about. Frankly it’s also the question of why these were not done since 2022 and only now in 2026 after a million dead Russian soldiers. Yes you really have to include Wagner dead which Russian MOD deliberately excluded because they are NOT officially Russian soldiers.

Even Simplicius is stating the obvious that Pootin is only belatedly realized he was played a fool for so long with the nothing happened in Anchorage but he was full of hopium and copium with Trump’s smoke.

Back to Iran please where at least one of our favourites is clearly winning because they are not afraid of nukes.

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 26 2026 23:59 utc | 273

What is with the gas shortages in some far flung Russian regions?  Is a 15 liters a day limit a day a big deal?  Are the lines mostly due to everyone wanting to fill their tanks when they are usually happy with them being – on average – half full?
.
Is this more than the normal summer driving shortages?

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 27 2026 0:10 utc | 274

a million dead Russian soldiers.
Posted by: Surferket | Jun 26 2026 23:59 utc | 274
 
Buuuuuulll Shiiiiitt.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 27 2026 0:14 utc | 275

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2026 23:30 utc | 272
 
Thanks for that, james – I had not seen it.  I think Scott writes extremely well.  He’s just visited Russia, so would have had time to assess how people there are coping.  I well remember that this is one of Putin’s strengths — he responds to Russians in ways I think no other world leader does.  He knows the pros and contras of their opinions far better than we on the outside or most pundits on the inside as well.  And yes, I do think Russians should be very thankful he has worked as hard as he has done on their behalf.  Most of them know that.
 
I’ll just say that I think the Queen of England in her younger days had a similar dedication.  It doesn’t happen often.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 27 2026 0:32 utc | 276

A 25-year-old Lithuanian football player, Ignas Kailius, who fought against Russia, has been killed.
 
He joined the Ukrainian Armed Forces in February but was killed in June.

Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 27 2026 0:33 utc | 277

Ukraine most definitely is not winning, its down to the last dregs of even light armoured vehicles with escalating casualties:
 
Ukrainian losses as reported by the Russian military, 20th June to June 26th:

  • Sever Group: 1,575 troops, 5 LAVs, 88 motor vehicles, 12 artillery, 2 MLRS, 11 EW
  • Zapad: 1,510 troops, 23 LAVs, 101 motor vehicles, 16 artillery, 5 EW and CF
  • Yuzhnaya: 1,280 troops, 19 LAVs, 139 motor vehicles, 21 artillery
  • Tsentr: 2,195 troops, 20 LAVs, 31 motor vehicles, 18 artillery, 3 MLRS
  • Vostok: 3,155 troops, 16 LAVs, 55 motor vehicles, 6 artillery
  • Dnepr: 360 troops, 2 LAV, 86 motor vehicles, 4 artillery, 22 EW

 
Total of 10,075 troops (43,658 per month, probably above 45,000 with undercounting), 500 more than the previous week. This is an increase from the low of around 30,000 per month.
 
Total of 0 tanks (small new batch was eliminated two weeks ago), 0 AFV, 0 IFV, 0 APC, 85 LAVs (down 15 from previous week), 500 motor vehicles (down 38 from previous week). The utter reliance on motor vehicles is very evident.
 
Total of 77 artillery, up 16 from last week; 334 per month. A bounce from the lows. 5 MLRS (there seems to have been a batch of MLRS delivered that are being destroyed). And 38 EW and CB systems.
 
The Russians have taken over 90% of Kostyanytynivka and the overwhelming majority of Lyman, two very strategic towns, we would expect the Ukrainians to be throwing everything in to stop this and casualty rates are rising. Even so, very noticeable that there are no tanks, AFV, IFV and APC losses plus falling numbers of LAV (light armoured vehicle) losses – pointing to even a dwindling number of LAVs. Also, more European country moves to repatriate some of the one million fighting age men in the EU.

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jun 27 2026 0:46 utc | 278

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2026 18:50 utc | 250
 
And to add on top of your and frithguild’s comment:
 
They think That Ukraine will be like Vietnam to America or Afghanistan to the Soviet Union.  It NEVER occurs to them that LOSING a war BECAUSE your populace does not support it, IS STILL LOSING THE WAR.
 
They think casualties are unacceptable because they are casualties.  It is beyond their comprehension that casualties are unacceptable ONLY if the population is against the war, then EVERY casualty is an outrage, like the 13 dead Americans in the Iranian war. 
 
However, if the people of Russia understand what is happening, and have been wanting something to be doen FOR DECADES, then a couple hundred thousand dead Russain soldiers will nto make them suddenly turn tail and demand an end… in fact, IT WILL ONLY HARDEN THEIR RESOLVE.
 
Same with a couple dozen civilians killed in a week.  A week picked out to make it seem like a big deal… IT ISN’T.  It is only a big deal IF THEY ARE AGAINST THE WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE.
 
Just like the old soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the people of the USSR did not care for the invasion at all, and because of that, the mothers of the dead soldiers became a force to deal with, one that some say broke the USSR.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 27 2026 0:53 utc | 279

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jun 27 2026 0:46 utc | 279

I’m surprised you’re still counting hardware when it’s a total drone domination war that Russia has no counter to. The Ukies are not stupid to put their tanks and IFV where Russia drones can hit them. But Russia is still using IFVs as carriers in the front lines. In China Ukies are winning the PR war by showing videos of taking out Russian IFVs and then the soldiers with drones. Great show with camera drones filming suicide drones hitting Russian soldiers.
PR is everything as ordinary people only have access to MSM and no time to waste searching for sites like MOA which MSM has already labelled as fake news sites.

Iranians know and use PR to win their war and tell the world about it. Even Trump copied them.

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 27 2026 1:00 utc | 280

it’s a total drone domination war that Russia has no counter to. 
 
Posted by: Surferket | Jun 27 2026 1:00 utc | 281
 
Buuuuuulll Shiiiiiiit.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 27 2026 1:04 utc | 281

In China Ukies are winning the PR war by showing videos of taking out Russian IFVs and then the soldiers with drones. Great show with camera drones filming suicide drones hitting Russian soldiers.
 
Posted by: Surferket | Jun 27 2026 1:00 utc | 281
 
 
Guess who likes watching Russians get snuffed so much he doesn’t know there are literally tens of thousands of videos just like the ones he likes, except showing Ukie soldiers getting snuffed after their IFV are burned by drones?
 
YOU.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 27 2026 1:06 utc | 282

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 27 2026 0:10 utc | 275
 
 WOW, 4 countem 4 question marks in one post. 
 
Get a better computer. They have search engines and even Ai nowadays.

Posted by: arby | Jun 27 2026 1:20 utc | 283

In response to malenkov@270,
 
Some people’s definition of winning is literally flattening things, and “scaring people straight.” I recently read a stated position on Simplicius’ blog, that if the Ukrainian conflict ends with Russia still “surrounded by” hostile states, then Russia has been comprehensively defeated, and they even brought up the forced transition of power in Venezuela as a serious blow. Nevermind that Russia is the largest country on Earth, that for its entire existence is “surrounded” by countries, inherently guarded against such a vast land-power, and that Venezuela, which hasn’t exactly “flipped” like a pancake, is on a different continent, and isn’t pivotal to Russian security or other interests. The overall idea seemed to be, that the only way Russia wins, is if it’s the last remaining country on Earth, because logically, for every threat Russia permanently and forcefully eliminates, a new one simply must arise in response — it can’t be otherwise. Either real people are becoming absolutist and maximalist to the point of cognitive incoherence, or they’re intentionally setting up logical contradictions to ensure the narrative of failure that will stick regardless of objectives achieved.

Posted by: Skiffer | Jun 27 2026 1:29 utc | 284

Adding to Skiffer@285,
 
Oh, and that Russia has to fully dismantle all US influence in the world, otherwise it has lost. Sure, and if someone drinks too much and craps their pants, Russia loses if they don’t wipe that person’s ass immediately. People create these fairy-tales, and then either start believing in them or at least make a fine job pretending to do so, like the hundred or so crossed Red Lines and Russia’s non-response, where everyone except the Russian general staff knows what the pain threshold is, and Russian escalation is par for the course and not an actual response; Ukrainian drones hit a bus-station in Voronezh? Nuke the Pentagon!

Posted by: Skiffer | Jun 27 2026 1:38 utc | 285

Putin pulled Russia out of a historic slump. On that point, credit must be given where credit is due. But in terms of international relations and geopolitics, the assessment is far more severe.
By repeatedly believing he can still “make deals” with actors who have attempted to strike him directly and who constantly mislead him, and by overestimating the durability of agreements such as Minsk I and II, he has accumulated strategic misjudgments. Even the BRICS narrative looks more like a communications construct than a truly coherent bloc capable of exerting decisive influence on the global order.
Added to this is a constant feature of his diplomatic posture: the repeated drawing of “red lines,” presented as non-negotiable, yet systematically crossed by his adversaries without proportionate consequences. By continually redrawing them without enforcing them, these lines end up losing credibility and deterrent effect.
Then there is the ongoing dissonance: continuing to refer to “colleagues” when speaking of states that are delivering weapons every day to Ukraine to kill Russian soldiers. This is no longer diplomacy; it is a denial of reality.
The Prigozhin episode, meanwhile, revealed something deeper: an armed mutiny within a few hundred kilometers of Moscow, without any immediately clear response from the top of the state. A command-and-control failure that is hard to ignore for a power that presents itself as highly centralized.
In the end, three hypotheses dominate: either a cold strategic calculation that escapes external interpretation, or a form of leadership fatigue in which perception of reality becomes increasingly distorted, or simply that he is deeply naive.

Posted by: Hagen | Jun 27 2026 1:48 utc | 286

Posted by: Skiffer | Jun 27 2026 1:38 utc | 286
 
Russia has always struggled with people worldwide wanting it to save them, and Russians internally wanting to save the world.  It is what got them into WW I with “the Serbia Question”.   
 
I read recently an article I think by Two Majors where he thinks about it for a while, and concludes, it’s not worth saving the world, no matter how much you want to.
 
Russians have lost more than all the world, so many times, that Russian blood should be for Russia, and Russia only.  
 
Yet so many want Russia to destroy the world they hate, (for good reason).  But that is not Russia’s responsibility.
 
That is why it is not Russia’s job to destroy Israel, or America, or “perfidious Albion”.  Russia’s job is to survive, and part of that is very delicate diplomacy, and the other part is planning not just on winning the war, but winning the decades that come after, and yes, hate to say it, but DEALING with whoever you must to assure a strong economy.   
 
And trade makes nations avoid fighting each other.  So it is important to reopen trade with Europe ASAP once the war is over.  It has nothing to do with “greed” and “oligarchs” and everything to do with finishing the war and doing your best to make sure it does not happen again.
 
Lavrov saying he is always willing to talk is going to be important in the future, when NATO is completely defeated in Ukraine, and Russia needs P.I.C.s who have the authority to stop the hostilities.  I know everyone wants justice, and for Russia to rampage across the world after Russia and execute the entire EU bureaucracy and US government and its corporate echelons of control, but that would be killing more Russians for nothing but emotions, revenge. 
 
And Russians are not known for being incredibly passionate people.  Instead, they are known for being cold and pragmatic.   Cold and pragmatic is the best way to run a nation and guide a civilization.  Russia got to this state BECAUSE it had to through geopolitical evolution.  This is what happens when your capital is burned down three times, and you have lost tens of millions in wars.
 
When you have only lost a million in wars, a la the USA, then you are foolhardy and brash.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 27 2026 1:52 utc | 287

Surferket | Jun 27 2026 1:00 utc | 281  —   Roger Boyd | Jun 27 2026 0:46 utc | 279
 
The more mature thing to say would be, someone really needs to put a stop to this madness, and its clear from the last 4-5years, that neither Mr. Putine and Mr. Zelensky (NATO puppet) have any desires to end the conflict. 
 
Both seem to be enjoying watching the slaughter of brethren.  It would be safe to say that perhaps, neither NATO or Putin are reponsible leaders in this conflict.  Until one or both break. 
 
This disaster will never end and only further escalate the problems for humanity. 
 
Unfortunately we have alot of inmature sock puppets who are mentally retarded to either or and can’t seem to see anything beyond.

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 27 2026 1:53 utc | 288

In response to UWDude@280,
 
Exactly. And what’s more, there is no alternate exit strategy, other than to eliminate the root causes of the conflict. There are still these morons running around, saying “Well Russia can end the war tomorrow, just pack up and leave.” Where would they go? They’re fighting on Russian soil. Anyone heard about how Ukraine intends to re-integrate 10m former Ukrainian current Russian citizens? As if — all they talk about is territory and borders, like the issue is about lines on a map rather than the people actually living on the ground. Ukraine sees these territories, and the people living there, the same way they saw Kursk, and did and again would behave the same way they did there. Asking Russia to “leave” you may as well ask them to leave all the way to the Urals, and leave the security of their people up to the butchers in Kiev and their NATO friends — it’s nonsense, and the population understands that it’s nonsense. It’s hard to be against the war, when you understand that you’re next on the chopping block if the troops are pulled back by a political decision, which is why the only “opposition” to the war is related to how forcefully and comprehensively that security is established. As usual, the narrative is the perfect mirror image of reality — Ukraine could pull back their forces any time and leave the territories they occupy, and you’d have conditions for peace within a week. Russia can’t pull back.

Posted by: Skiffer | Jun 27 2026 1:54 utc | 289

In response to UWDude@288,
 
Well, I think there’s a more measured perspective on this, because Russia indeed has the potential to be a force for good in the world, and a counterbalance to the disruptive influence of other states — and I don’t think this should be abandoned for a fortress mentality. But, at the same time, we’re talking about processes occurring on historic scales, while people seem to expect some sort of boxing match with a TKO in the first round. We get maximalist, unrealistic goals, presented with a surrealist time-table — 3 days to take Kiev, but also dismantle US influence built up over a century, and also without inconveniencing me personally, with sugar on top. Which is why I think that such comments aren’t actually serious or genuine — like watching a person build a house, starting with the foundation, and making predictions of how leaky the roof is going to be, how cold and damp the rooms are.
 
First off, as you rightly pointed out, no-one is building a house to the specifications of those idiots, so it’s none of their business anyway. Secondly, they themselves aren’t able to get the thumb out of their ass to build a Lego prototype, but see themselves as entitled bystanders to a process they have absolutely no grasp of. A little self-reflection here would go a long way.

Posted by: Skiffer | Jun 27 2026 2:06 utc | 290

The Iran-US war is starting to feel like the Ukraine-Russia war. The conflicts we read about here, at Simplicious and Sovereignista as well as all the videos constantly linked at sites like these are wearing a person down. Months and months of little paper cuts that dull the senses as nothing truly significant or monumental ever happens. Sometimes I just wish these actors would shit or get off the pot. 
 
It’s summer now, people are out golfing or playing ball, biking and jogging even taking family vacations. Nobody wants to be chained to their pc or smartphone waiting for the latest and greatest factoid of an- on again off again kabuki extravaganza!
 
Waiting for WWIII or world peace is exhausting I gotta tell ya…

Posted by: bisfab | Jun 27 2026 2:07 utc | 291

In response to bisfab@292,
 
Well, you can stop waiting for world peace, that’s for sure — try to get some personal peace instead. Don’t worry; if WW3 starts in earnest, you won’t miss it, even with your gadgets disconnected.

Posted by: Skiffer | Jun 27 2026 2:11 utc | 292

Well, I think there’s a more measured perspective on this, because Russia indeed has the potential to be a force for good in the world, and a counterbalance to the disruptive influence of other states — and I don’t think this should be abandoned for a fortress mentality. 
 
Posted by: Skiffer | Jun 27 2026 2:06 utc | 291
 
Russia has tried many times to be a force for good.  The thanks it has gotten has been, disappointing, to say the least.
 
Trying to solve the worlds problems, even for a country like Russia, never works out as intended.   

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 27 2026 2:11 utc | 293

In response UWDude@294,
 
Yeah, but you don’t do good deeds because you expect thanks. You do them because you’re a good person, sound of mind. Making a conscious decision to ignore injustice, to not help people, because you don’t feel properly appreciated or compensated, means you’ve lost the beautiful part of yourself, the soul that made life worth living. I sincerely hope neither Russia, nor any of us here at the bar, ever feel an overwhelming temptation to make such a choice, because it is a spiritual crisis that, once lost, is difficult to ever recover from.

Posted by: Skiffer | Jun 27 2026 2:18 utc | 294

Yeah, but you don’t do good deeds because you expect thanks. You do them because you’re a good person, sound of mind. Making a conscious decision to ignore injustice, to not help people, because you don’t feel properly appreciated or compensated, means you’ve lost the beautiful part of yourself, the soul that made life worth living. I sincerely hope neither Russia, nor any of us here at the bar, ever feel an overwhelming temptation to make such a choice, because it is a spiritual crisis that, once lost, is difficult to ever recover from.
Posted by: Skiffer | Jun 27 2026 2:18 utc | 295
 
Russia is not allowed to do good deeds with Russian blood.   Russian soldiers’ lives are not for doing good deeds, they are for protecting Russia, and protecting Russia only.   This has nothing to do with morality.  This has nothing to do with beautiful souls.
 
Killing Russian soldiers to do good deeds for non-Russians is not pragmatic. 
 
If people do not earn their own freedom with their own blood, they do not appreciate it.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 27 2026 2:24 utc | 295

They’re fighting on Russian soil.   
Posted by: Skiffer | Jun 27 2026 1:54 utc | 290
 
They’re fighting on Ukrainian territory, not Russian. Passing a law in Moscow doesn’t change who is sovereign over a land. 
 
Pass another law or two and Russia can call all their troops home again. Then the people can decide for themselves where they choose to live instead of Putin’s missiles doing it for them. Where Nato/US locates their missiles be it in the Baltic, Ukraine, Finland or Poland makes no difference to anything. Russia Lavrov Putin as well as Sergey Karaganov are talking out their arses what a major threat Nato is because of Ukraine joining it or not. 
 
The whole thing is a fiction of lies inside a Matryoshka doll. Europe Russia China and America are all as bad as each other. All corrupt. All fascist states run by psychopaths and corporatists. 

Posted by: Kobayashi Maru | Jun 27 2026 2:36 utc | 296

If people do not earn their own freedom with their own blood, they do not appreciate it.
Posted by: UWDude | Jun 27 2026 2:24 utc | 296
 
No doubt then you are unhappy with your own behavior, signaling that you find your unearned freedom unacceptable.  Gee, don’t beat yourself up. You’ll get your chance to bleed. 

Posted by: Kobayashi Maru | Jun 27 2026 2:40 utc | 297

@ karlof1 with the Global Times link about China’s theatre in our civilization war…thanks….
 
Will it grow to take focus away from Ukraine and/or the ME?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 27 2026 2:41 utc | 298

In response to UWDude@296,
 
No disagreement from me on that point, but in geopolitics, things are not as simple as being able to close the door on the outside world and just mind your own business. There will always be causes where Russian involvement, including with resources, including human resources, directly plays to Russian strategic and security interests, and at the same time also helps people. So, if the main criteria is to protect Russia, withdrawing from the world can be detrimental to that criteria. So, I take your point as valid, but also think that a lot of it is about framing and narratives. For my part, I think as soon as SU withdrew and Russia “tried to be a normal country” we ended up with a lot of parasites, turning towards a new host on the spot, sure, and you can talk about loyalty and gratitude and the lack thereof, but in practical terms, this development ultimately didn’t benefit Russia either. The cost of maintaining that influence, the cost of involvement, of having them suckle on the Russian teat for all those years, definitely wasn’t higher than the cost of having them “faux independent” in service of a new master. So, from a practical standpoint, having a Russian soldier in every home around the globe actually prevents having Russian soldiers die pointlessly a generation or two later. From an idealistic standpoint, which I think is the current Russian mentality, we would of course prefer that all states in world mature into responsible actors, and would gladly help them achieve such an outcome, with a hands-off approach where all states operate in a structure of one sovereign to another, but the cost in Russian lives to such an approach is demonstratively higher, with deaths on Russian soil rather than service abroad. So, it’s a complex issue.

Posted by: Skiffer | Jun 27 2026 2:44 utc | 299

In response to Kobayashi Maru@297,
 
It’s not Russian soil because of the legislature — the legislature merely recognized the self-determination of the people on those territories. There were plenty of proposals, including before the start of SMO, that sought the exact formula that you were suggesting; a federal structure within Ukraine, opportunities for repeat referendums with international observers, semi-autonomous governmental structures and on and on. Russia accepted each proposal as a valid option every step of the way. European leaders at the time gave cautious support to such propositions as possible avenues for avoiding full-scale conflict. Who was dead set against at every point? The Kievan central authority, of course, who would undoubtedly be giving up at least part of their control over these territories, no matter what the solution looked like, or what the vote looked like — that’s what you get when you airstrike public squares as part of your “anti-terrorist operation.” The issue was, supposedly, that the entire population of Crimea, DNR & LNR had been brainwashed into believing in a parallel reality by Russian propaganda, so no vote could ever be legitimate, without first re-educating the populace — tough titty that one.
 
Kiev even made it constitutionally illegal to negotiate with any self-elected representatives under an anti-terrorist clause, yet during 8 years of frozen conflict, the only acts of terrorism all occurred inside the borders of separatist-held formations, car-bombs killing political and military leaders. So, it’s a good idea, which is why Russia never rejected it as an option.
 
And, of course, “Putin’s missiles” aren’t raining down over the people of these territories, making the choice for them, but strike Ukrainian-held positions there, making their choice to leave, either willingly or in bags, a little easier. Ukraine’s missiles and drones, on the other hand, well, they’d like people to leave, preferably in a bag. There’s a slogan still in active use today, that dates from way before any of this mess started: Крим буде або УКРАЇНСЬКИМ або БЕЗЛЮДНИМ. And if the residents there are faced with the choice of the side that uses this slogan, and the side that prevents this slogan from becoming reality, it’s a pretty easy choice to make.

Posted by: Skiffer | Jun 27 2026 2:59 utc | 300