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June 9, 2026
No Need To Waste Europe – by English Outsider

by English Outsider 

lifted from a comment

Such a lot of nonsense being talked at the moment.  Sorry, Gentlemen, (the Ladies, fortunately, are immune) but there’s any amount of it I’ve been reading here too.

I’d guess that a good half here are Ritter acolytes.  Lay waste Europe.  Bomb them to hell.  Don’t let’s pussyfoot around any more.

On Martyanov’s site I saw the video of Ritter delivering that message in Russia.   At the St Petersburg conference.   Has Ritter  lost his mind?  I wrote in to reply to Larch on the subject.  Many of “b’s” commenters will know Larch because he’s a fund of information on the ins and outs of the Ukrainian war since 2014.  Great bloke.

Larch – Ritter’s way off in that video clip. Karaganov plus. They’ll be listening to him at SPIEF and thinking, is that sort of rabid nonsense all Ritter has to offer us? It’s Curtis LeMay thinking, make the rubble bounce, no use at all when working out how to defuse a confrontation the Russians aren’t looking to extend.

Ritter’s Intel and arms control background, plus his ability to marshal a whole lot of information he has at his fingertips and that most of us don’t, make him a valuable analyst – when he’s not going off the deep end which he does far too often. And for all his undoubted analytical ability he doesn’t seem to grasp the underlying reality.

That is, that the Americans, for all Trump’s increasingly lame PR, are still key players in the conflict in Ukraine. Those drone and missile attacks into Russia would not be possible but for American ISR and planning assistance to go with it. Same for the sabotage and assassination missions being run into Russia. Much of the supply of arms is also still down to the US. Indirectly, again in spite of Trump’s PR, financial support too. The logistics are still being run from Wiesbaden and we’re fools if we think that the Americans, whose expertise in logistics is far superior to the European’s, aren’t key in that too.

So the full scale attack Ritter is calling for would be an attack on American assets too. What’s Ritter up to, going to a big conference in St Petersburg and calling for that?

All Ritter’s doing is showing the Russians that the Americans, whether it’s hawks like Blumenthal and Lindsey Graham or dissidents like Ritter, are in an advanced state of hysteria all round and need to be handled very carefully if they’re not to harm themselves and others. But I think the Russians know that already.

I should add that there are plenty of good people in Europe who have the gravest reservations about EU foreign policy. Believe it or not, that goes for Britain too. Responsible voices in England are calling for our UK foreign policy to be changed. Ian Proud, Commodore Jermy, the late Lord Skidelsky, the invaluable Mercouris, Dr Rob Campbell, many others.

Far as I can see they’re not making much headway but they’re all in their various ways working at getting a more accurate and rational view of the Ukrainian conflict through to the public here and abroad. Ritter can do that when he’s not losing it but when he does lose it as he does in that video, he discredits all those attempts and his own too.

And I’m going to guess that many of the commenters on “b’s” site bellowing “nuke everything” are just shooting a line.  They’re just thoroughly fed up with the mess their various countries have got themselves into and are expressing that dissatisfaction through hyperbole.


b here:

I agree with the above. Ritter is talking nonsense (with Larry Johnson and Pepe Escobar not far behind).

The current ‘Ukraine is wining’ propaganda coming from all NATO channels seems to have influenced quite a few of these people. It is bullshit.

Professor Mearsheimer has studied at West Point and was an air-force officer for some ten years before becoming an academic expert in international relations. His assessments of military realities are sound and grounded in facts.

In his latest talk with Judge Napolitano just hours ago, he agrees with my view that the situation in Ukraine has not changed:

The Russians are winning on the battlefield. For sure. And not as quickly as I’m sure the Russian people and Russian leaders would like, but they are moving inexorably forward. And the Ukrainian military is in deep trouble.

They’re unable to raise large numbers of troops to replace those who are killed in battle. And furthermore, they have a huge problem with desertions. I would estimate that the Russians outnumber the Ukrainians in terms of in terms of combat forces on the front lines uh probably two to one.

The Russians have an abundance of equipment or weaponry to use against Ukraine because of their massive industrial base. And because the United States and a number of European countries are no longer able to provide as much weaponry to Ukraine as they have in the past, the Ukrainians are having real trouble uh matching the Russians in terms of weaponry available on the battlefield.

Yes, drones are helping uh the Ukrainians maintain the front lines, somewhat on the front lines, but only up to a limited extent. And I think as we move forward, what you’ll see is that the Russians will end up capturing all of the territory in those four Oblasts that they have formally annexed. […] So they’re in an excellent position and very importantly Ukraine is not in a position to ever join NATO which was the principal goal of Russia from the beginning of this campaign.

Comments

I normally access M-o-A to scan for “http” to find items I’ve missed otherwise, read B’s commentary, and sometimes to ask technical questions.  I have a technical question now about bridges across the Dniepr, whose continued existence is often cited herein as an example of Russian weakness.  My question is this: are there engineering or military reasons for this ?  Or perhaps a policy one ?
 
Are bridges relatively easy to rebuild temporarily, for example, not making it worth while?  Perhaps by bridge-building units with equipment and spare parts sequestered in adjacent cities, maybe in underground parking garages ?  (In the American civil war, for example, in 1862 Union Army engineers built two pontoon bridges across the Rappahanock while under enemy fire, then added four more later, all in a day or two.  In 1864 they built a half-mile-long pontoon bridge across the James in one day; in both cases for an army of 100,000, using the equipment available then.)   
 
Or are bridges relatively difficult to destroy, also not making it worth while?  Are slow-falling smart bombs too easily shot down, for example, or are some missile CEP’s too imprecise, while other missile warheads not destructive enough ?  
 
Or are bridges being preserved as a matter of policy of some kind, to use in a future westward crossing, perhaps ? 

Posted by: Seward | Jun 10 2026 21:56 utc | 301

I like Larry Johnsons commentary. I think its generally insightful and intelligent but this stuff about nuclear weapons is stupid. He says he’s presenting raw data but then every time uses Robert Barnes as verification. He says Robert Barnes has a trusted inside source in the Whitehouse. He doesn’t. He yells at his audience to shut the f*%= up – Barnes is a former Trump lawyer! He’s not. Barnes has never actually done any lawyering for Trump. Barnes is a bloviating, bullshitting clout chaser.

Posted by: noidea | Jun 10 2026 22:06 utc | 302

Posted by: Seward | Jun 10 2026 21:56 utc | 302
 
I believe one Russian military expert said it is very difficult to destroy those bridges. Whether that’s true is a bit skeptical, one would assume a few Iskanders landing on top of the support pillars will demolish the bridge.
 
Of course AFU can always use pontoon bridges but they might be much less efficient and/or harder to set up over the Dnieper.
 
So most likely there are also technical reasons. Are they primary or secondary to some other, hidden reasons?

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 10 2026 22:08 utc | 303

Posted by: Dodrey Dougherton | Jun 10 2026 21:16 utc | 301
 
I think Russia should ignore the Baltics (even if provocations increase from them). At the point when it’s clear and declared attacks are launched by Nato, Russia should go after strategic Nato targets in western Europe. Most of all hitting ports of Rotterdam, Kiev, Rostock, the most important ports in western/northern Europe with Poseidon torpedos could effectively cripple NATO’s energy storage, sea lift capabilities to bring equipment to confront Russia. After that Nato will also lose whatever control it has of the Baltic and its ability to impose a blockade on Kaliningrad, more or less. The ‘eastern’ front will lose energy and armament imports, even no arms from the US will be able to reach them, at least efficiently.

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 10 2026 22:13 utc | 304

Posted by: Seward | Jun 10 2026 21:56 utc | 302
Maybe 20 major ones.   Some cross dams.  Then a bunch of more minor ones.
What is the demonstrated CEP of the Iskander?

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 10 2026 22:19 utc | 305

@305
 
Meant Kiel, not Kiev…

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 10 2026 22:25 utc | 306

Posted by: Carlos Marques | Jun 10 2026 18:14 utc | 297
….Looks like you are free after “One hundred years of solitude!”

Posted by: Preki | Jun 11 2026 0:13 utc | 307

Or are bridges being preserved as a matter of policy of some kind, to use in a future westward crossing, perhaps ? 
Posted by: Seward | Jun 10 2026 21:56 utc | 302

 
Some military expert (sorry don’t remember who) said that the advancing force don’t destroy bridges. It’s the retreating part that does that.

 

Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 11 2026 8:09 utc | 308

@ unimperator | Jun 10 2026 22:13 utc | 305

Seems clear enough. Further, the trajectory is clearly expressed a few comments earlier by Dodrey Dougherton @ Jun 10 2026 21:16 utc | 301

At the very least, Kremlin should not wait for devils to ship any/more nukes to proxies.

As smartfox mentions, the enemy plans to kill Russia every few decades. Russia tried everything “right” for decades. To survive, it must start doing wrong.

Posted by: norice | Jun 11 2026 8:47 utc | 309

Posted by: norice | Jun 11 2026 8:47 utc | 310
 

To survive, it must start doing wrong.

 
Wouldn’t it be simpler for those who want to see “wrong” done to support Israel and the USA, instead of demanding that Russia, China, or Iran copy their methods?
 
We support those who give us hope for change, for an end to this savage and bloodthirsty behavior.
Not the generalization of these practices.
 
The day they change, their geopolitical and popular support will also change, and many will pray, or even more, that these rabid beasts destroy each other.
Simple.

Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 11 2026 9:03 utc | 310

About the Dnieper bridges, people should think about consequences…
Admit all the bridges are destroyed , so OK , the military will use less efficient alternatives means to cross. What about the civilian population ? Can’t get supplies from Russia or Belarus : what would they do ?
What happened when the IDF blow all the bridges across the Litani ? 
Let me remind you all that forced population displacement is a warcrime … there is only one country that removed an ICC Prosecutor and it’s not Russia.

Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 11 2026 10:44 utc | 311

How vulnerable is Crimea really? Could it be cut off in time as Kherson city was ? Could the Kerch bridge be destroyed if the determination to do so was there?
 
Is this a red line that even the west wouldn’t cross and could it be part of the reason why bridges aren’t being blown by Russia when it appears it could cripple Ukrainian logistics 

Posted by: Night Tripper | Jun 11 2026 11:11 utc | 312

The reason why Ritter and many others say that Russia should start retaliating accordingly, and even should go all out, is that they know that the empire never backs down without getting totally defeated and has no means to wage war.
 
Posted by: Dodrey Dougherton | Jun 10 2026 21:16 utc | 301

 
If by “empire” you mean the USA, they have backed down plenty of times. They backed down in Vietnam, and they certainly had the means to keep going, but the war was unpopular, it didn’t seem to have a purpose and the benefits were minimal.
 
They say 20 years in Afghanistan, grew some opium poppies and then gave up and abandoned the place. They certainly could have stayed longer but hose not to.
 
They gave up Iraq (mostly) but kept control over oil flows although that control is weaker now.
 
Heck … you could even say they gave up on the idea of overthrowing the Chinese Communist Party … which was their original plan … and backed off to simply holding out in Taiwan. There was indeed a genuine US effort to win China over with trade and in a way it sort of worked although attitudes change with time.
 
They have not yet given up on NATO although Trump has floated out the trial balloon … but Trump floats out a lot of stuff. Anyhow at least the seed is now planted for the US to walk away from NATO. Might happen … a lot of Americans are fed up with it.
 
Just a chance you haven’t really thought this through all that well … have you?!?

Posted by: Tel | Jun 11 2026 11:28 utc | 313

How vulnerable is Crimea really? Could it be cut off in time as Kherson city was ? Could the Kerch bridge be destroyed if the determination to do so was there? Is this a red line that even the west wouldn’t cross and could it be part of the reason why bridges aren’t being blown by Russia when it appears it could cripple Ukrainian logistics 
Posted by: Night Tripper | Jun 11 2026 11:11 utc | 313

Thatt is all shitty propaganda. The Dzongar bridge got shelled several times before, with Himars, Storm Shadow, drones. Usually the road surface takes damage, repair taking at most a few days. In 2024, a pontoon crossing was set up in hours, the damage 3 or 4 days ago was fixed within a day, will be same with the latest one. 
 
The Perekop direction further west is a land bridge, the isthmus being 15km wide at the narrowest point, not only the M17 highway crossing it north-south, but also plenty of parish roads and dirt ways (now driveable even for trucks and tanks). No way to fully cut Crimea even from Kherson. 
 
Much less from Kerch. The Crimean Bridge is operating normally, waiting times for incoming traffic from Taman peninsular virtually zero all day, from Kerch 30min to 1h at most during afternoon, with at most 300+ vehicles waiting, dropping to no wait in the evening and night. Since a week no alarm at the bridge.

Posted by: aquadraht | Jun 11 2026 12:40 utc | 314

Re: Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 9 2026 21:47 utc | 114
 

Pynx, Russia has completely taken the Donboss , or is weeks from holding all the land to the natural border the Dnipro river, Kiev and Odessa, Putin has said are pearls that could anchor Ukraine.  He apparently doesn’t want to leave a rump state.  But if Western meddling persists, Kiev and Odessa stand as leverage for Russia.   We seek to win, Iran and Russia have obviously it sought and end, for we never stop, they’ve sought leverage.   We’re not playing chess, but wrestling/judo and once again outclassed

 
 
“Weeks Away”!
 
Talk about delusional – in over 4 years the Russians have conquered a number of miles in Donbas – the Russians are years away from what you claim – if they ever get there.

Posted by: Julian | Jun 11 2026 12:40 utc | 315

Russia may be “winning” but politically Putin is under a lot of pressure.  Russians don’t like being attacked on their home soil.  That is the game now, make Russia cry.  It’s terrorism, the USrael way of war.   Americans wouldn’t tolerate it either.  I sympathize more with Ritter than anyone else, though he’s often a bit OT.  I’ve seen same here.  Useful anyway, keeping that in mind.  Mearsheimer sees the power relations but not the political relations.

Posted by: Charles Peterson | Jun 12 2026 0:51 utc | 316

That any likely Putin replacement would be a true ‘hawk’ doesn’t seem to bother US, which seems determined to ramp up WW3 while it still can.

Posted by: Charles Peterson | Jun 12 2026 1:04 utc | 317

Charles Peterson | Jun 12 2026 1:04 utc | 318
*** That any likely Putin replacement would be a true ‘hawk’ doesn’t seem to bother US, which seems determined to ramp up WW3 while it still can.***
 
It would only seriously bother the rulers of the USA if someone genuine got power — someone who prioritised eradicating the Oligarchs and their dynasties everywhere, instead of taking part in the present rotten “war/competition” charade of using ordinary people as disposable proxies while the transnational Overclass remain unscathed and keep making each other even richer.
 
 
 

Posted by: Cynic | Jun 12 2026 15:21 utc | 318

Posted by: Cynic | Jun 12 2026 15:21 utc | 318 ..It would only seriously bother the rulers of the USA if someone genuine got power — someone who prioritised eradicating the Oligarchs and their dynasties everywhere, instead of taking part in the present rotten “war/competition” charade of using ordinary people as disposable proxies while the transnational Overclass remain unscathed and keep making each other even richer…….
 
<= A more likely possibility might be the powers in the East will gain control over the UN and change its purposes and objectives in ways that harness the powers of anyone who seeks to use force on another.. Contain the use of force instead of using force to eliminate force.     
 

Posted by: snake | Jun 17 2026 15:30 utc | 319