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June 18, 2026
Iran Open Thread 2026-129
News & views related to the war on Iran …
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It may have occurred to others before, but I was thinking this morning that Iran’s agreeing to the MOU despite the well earned distrust of the US could also have the salutary effect of driving another very public wedge between the US and IZ … not a wedge re the leadership of the nations necessarily, though perhaps some of that, but rather a wedge separating the peoples. And this may have been part of the reason Iran agreed, in the end … beginning to see the light at the end of the colonial tunnel. Posted by: Caliman | Jun 18 2026 16:48 utc | 1 ISrael prefers ISIS: “There’s the possibility that you’ll have Sunni extremist elements who will try to come to the fore,” Oren said yesterday in Washington. “Our opinion is that any situation would be better than the current situation” in which the Syrian regime has a strategic alliance with Iran and the Lebanese Shiite Muslim terrorist group Hezbollah, he said. “Ya’alon: In choice between Iran and ISIS, I prefer ISIS” Posted by: p3t3r | Jun 18 2026 17:03 utc | 2 Keep thinking agreement incapable. Posted by: jpc | Jun 18 2026 17:17 utc | 3 The “Iran/US Pause Deal” signed by Trump at Versailles raises so many questions for prognosticators. Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 18 2026 17:21 utc | 4 To repeat: Revealed: In 1950s Mossad spies married Arabs to conceal identity Posted by: Exile | Jun 18 2026 17:27 utc | 5 The “Iran/US Pause Deal” signed by Trump at Versailles raises so many questions for prognosticators. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 18 2026 17:30 utc | 6 So many questions so few answers. Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 18 2026 17:36 utc | 7 “Leader of Iran, Seyyed Mojtaba Khamenei regarding the Iran-US MoU: In the Name of God, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful The passionate and loyal nation of Iran, As you have been informed, a memorandum of understanding was signed between the presidents of Iran and America. On the path toward reaching this stage, the officials involved made great efforts out of concern and with good intentions. Of course, it was the American president who, out of desperation, used various forms of leverage to bring this about. In principle, I had a different view. However, because of the commitment (insistence) that the honorable president, as head of the Supreme National Security Council, gave me on behalf of himself and the other members regarding the safeguarding of the rights of the Iranian nation and the Resistance Front, and because he explicitly accepted responsibility for it, I issued permission for it. He also stated clearly that if the American side seeks to make excessive demands, they will not submit to them. From this moment, we; meaning you, the proud nation, and this humble servant; will be awaiting the fulfillment of the stated conditions. However, it is obvious that the in-person negotiations that will take place in the future do not mean acceptance of the enemy’s view. We hope that the blessed prayers of our Master (may God Almighty hasten his reappearance) will bring all kinds of divine assistance and victories for the honorable nation of Iran. Peace be upon you, and God’s mercy and blessings.” https://t.me/FotrosResistancee/22282 Posted by: Ornot | Jun 18 2026 17:40 utc | 8
Vance’s words might be the best sign so far, and they are consistent even with the Venezuela operation. Posted by: Newbie | Jun 18 2026 17:43 utc | 9 The Electronic Intifada Weekly Livestream: Day 986 Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 18 2026 17:53 utc | 11 Treaty of Versailles II, the with the US playing the role of Germany post-WW1 🙂 Posted by: Perimetr | Jun 18 2026 17:56 utc | 12 @9 Posted by: paddy | Jun 18 2026 17:58 utc | 13 R2R: Will Trump’s Syrian Vassal Invade Lebanon? Ceasefire in Nabatiye? Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 18 2026 18:03 utc | 14 Imagine Israel occupation continues after the peace. The US and Iran jointly bomb Israel together to force them out of Lebanon. That would a meme worthy Switcheroo. Posted by: KillerDoll | Jun 18 2026 18:13 utc | 15 @14 Posted by: paddy | Jun 18 2026 18:16 utc | 16 IGL: Vijay Prashad: ‘The US-Iran Deal Changes Everything’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 18 2026 18:18 utc | 17 KillerDoll @ 15 Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 18 2026 18:19 utc | 18 “IDF must be muzzled.” Posted by: Caliman | Jun 18 2026 18:19 utc | 19 Axiomatic: the Empire needs Israel to maintain the Empire’s power in the Middle East. There is no alternative. Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 18 2026 18:21 utc | 20 Joint Criminal Enterprise: Posted by: Exile | Jun 18 2026 18:27 utc | 21 I’m assuming that the $300 billion infrastructure reconstruction business is all about funneling cash into Little Jared’s pockets. Even so, however, I’d love to be a fly on the wall the next time the President and his son-in-law meet behind closed doors. Posted by: malenkov | Jun 18 2026 18:28 utc | 22 The Sirius Report: ‘Oil Markets Are Pricing in a Fantasy’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 18 2026 18:37 utc | 23 It is ominous to sign a deal in Versailles but that is probably lost on Trump. The conference of Versailles in 1918 was the last time the West European powers ended a big conflict. The Americans were just a participant. The second world war was ended in San Francisco 1945. But the Versailles conference and its unrealistic measures lead to a bigger war. Posted by: Teraspol | Jun 18 2026 18:38 utc | 24 Ornot | Jun 18 2026 17:40 utc | 8— JF: Prof Mohammad Marandi Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 18 2026 19:08 utc | 26 see the second link. Vance is admitting that israel has committed war crimes…. by bombing & killing innocent people in Lebanon etc and the whole area…….. “You can’t just kill your way out of solving every single national security problem that you have” Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 18 2026 19:12 utc | 27 @ William Gruff | Jun 18 2026 18:21 utc | 20 about keeping the spice flowing Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 18 2026 19:13 utc | 28 Now the game becomes: How will the US betray Iran and when will they do it? Posted by: AmericanIconoclast | Jun 18 2026 19:34 utc | 29
Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 18 2026 19:35 utc | 30
The United States dealt with the Nazis of the 20th century by absorbing them into its government and NATO (Operation Paperclip). Posted by: AmericanIconoclast | Jun 18 2026 19:36 utc | 31 Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 18 2026 19:13 utc | 28 Posted by: snake | Jun 18 2026 19:36 utc | 32 Bloodlust is a powerful force. Israel cannot stop now. They will not stop until their own blood is spilt. Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 18 2026 19:41 utc | 33 Caliman @1 and Penn @4 Posted by: countrumford | Jun 18 2026 19:44 utc | 34 @32 snake Recently: “Esmail Qaani, commander of the IRGC’s Quds Force, told the state TV on Monday that Hamas would soon rebuild…” but being reported also as “Hamas would soon be rebuilt” Through to Iran would rebuild Hamas… Would have to look at original source to find correct meaning. Note, a ‘final reply’ to ‘Peace Board’ is expected in the coming days from Hamas (which normally is that “Israel” respect phase 1 before phase 2 discussion of future governance and armament can start) Posted by: Ornot | Jun 18 2026 19:50 utc | 35 AmericanIconoclast | Jun 18 2026 19:36 utc | 31 Posted by: bevin | Jun 18 2026 20:05 utc | 36 According to US VP Vance, the sanctions on Iran were failing to stop Iran earning from oil export. Now, they will be able to see how the money flow. Posted by: Suresh | Jun 18 2026 20:15 utc | 37 Posted by: bevin | Jun 18 2026 20:05 utc | 36 Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 18 2026 20:20 utc | 38 The United States dealt with the Nazis of the 20th century by absorbing them into its government and NATO (Operation Paperclip). Posted by: Suresh | Jun 18 2026 20:24 utc | 39 I saw this somewhere on TG but here it is form the Times of Israel:
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 18 2026 20:24 utc | 40 ChatNPC @ 38
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 18 2026 20:27 utc | 41 Latest on the “Deal or No Deal of The Century” comes this due to ongoing aggression in Lebanon. Posted by: Suresh | Jun 18 2026 20:31 utc | 42 Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 18 2026 20:34 utc | 43 TNA: Brian Berletic: ‘US-Iran MoU Sets the Stage for Renewed US Siege’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 18 2026 20:34 utc | 44 I see people going nuts over the $300 billion fund that Trump wants to set up. How much you want to bet that Halliburton and Bechtel already have their bids in? They know how the grift works, even if regular Americans remain clueless. Posted by: wagelaborer | Jun 18 2026 20:35 utc | 45 Moveing forward, would be a good plan. Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 18 2026 20:35 utc | 46 I told Bibi, ‘The biggest risk was that they drop a nuclear weapon into the middle of Israel,” Trump recalls during a press conference at the G7. Posted by: smartfox | Jun 18 2026 20:38 utc | 48 Mahmood OD: ‘Trump Surrenders’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 18 2026 20:43 utc | 49 ‘I don’t trust anything about perfidious Albion and its perfidious American descendants, I think Trump and Netanyahu are joined at the hip, and I doubt the 4th Reich’s plans for a Greater Israel and world conquest are over, but… just throwing this strange possibility out there.’ -LightYearsFromHome 40 ‘Vice President JD Vance on Thursday delivered an extraordinarily direct rebuke to Israeli critics of the U.S.-Iran peace agreement, as he sought to defend the preliminary deal with repeated misrepresentations of some of its terms. “Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time,” Mr. Vance said. He added, “If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world.” The agreement has faced mounting criticism from Israeli lawmakers, as well as some Republicans in Washington, who argue that it gives Iran economic relief while punting negotiations on its nuclear program down the road. The 60-day clock for the United States and Iran to negotiate the future of Iran’s nuclear program and other issues has begun, Mr. Vance said. Not long after, Iran’s supreme leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, said in his first statement since the preliminary agreement was signed that Iran would not submit to “excessive demands,” according to Iranian state media. “In-person negotiations that will take place in the future do not mean accepting the enemy’s view,” he said in the statement, which cast his country’s bargaining position as a strong one. Mr. Trump, he said, had struck a deal “out of desperation.” Israel is not a party to the deal, and its fighting with Hezbollah, the Iran-backed militia in Lebanon, had threatened to derail the U.S.-Iran talks, to the increasing frustration of American officials. Mr. Vance’s barbed remarks from the White House came a day after President Trump himself admonished Israel over its military campaign. Mr. Vance also reminded Israeli critics of the deal that, according to him, two-thirds of the weapons “that have protected your homeland” were American-made and paid for by Americans’ tax dollars. Responding to criticism about the sanctions relief that Iran is set to receive, Mr. Vance said Iran would have to “change their behavior” first — even though the deal lays out several benefits including some sanctions waivers that begin “upon the implementation of this M.O.U.” Those terms include the United States unfreezing assets and releasing restricted funds and both sides committing to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, a critical waterway whose closure roiled global supply chains and prices. Iran also immediately receives waivers on sanctions from the Treasury Department for the export of oil and other petroleum products that have long been restricted. Other elements of the agreement, such as broader sanctions relief, would take place on “an agreed-upon schedule as part of the final deal.” Mr. Vance claimed that lifting oil sanctions on Iran was “not a new benefit” for the country, even though severe economic restrictions in place before the war meant that Iran had to sell its oil at a steep discount. Lifting sanctions means it will be able to fetch higher prices, sell to a wider array of buyers and receive payment in more currencies. Asked about Iran’s ballistic missiles, Mr. Vance told reporters that it was impossible to tell any country that they’re not allowed to maintain a self-defense capacity. He said the administration’s priority was to stop Iran from sowing regional chaos. At the start of the war, Marco Rubio, the secretary of state, described the destruction of Iran’s ballistic missiles as one of the key goals of the war. That objective has not been achieved, according to U.S. intelligence estimates.’ [from the NY Times ‘livetracker’] These sort of statements vis-a-vis ‘Israel’ and its adversaries have not been made publicly previous to this. ‘two-thirds of the weapons “that have protected your homeland” were American-made and paid for by Americans’ tax dollars’ ‘it was impossible to tell any country that they’re not allowed to maintain a self-defense capacity.’ ‘lifting oil sanctions on Iran was “not a new benefit” for the country’ Of course they know how the poltiical winds are changing and these things need to be said for public consumption at this point in time. So once again it’s wait and see. I’m bidin’ my time Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jun 18 2026 20:46 utc | 50 see the two photos at the first link Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 18 2026 20:49 utc | 52 Step one and two of the mark 2 peace talks mediated by Russia……. Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 18 2026 20:56 utc | 53 If the pattern continues then this is another market manipulation. Posted by: Rae | Jun 18 2026 21:06 utc | 54 Press Points: 6/18/2026
Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 18 2026 21:06 utc | 55 A bonus for trump becouse he could wash his hands of the whole dammed sorry mess, just before the midterms. Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 18 2026 21:07 utc | 56 Russia Reacts to US-Iran Peace Roadmap Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 18 2026 21:17 utc | 57 The Trump’s administration’s behavior is peculiar. Posted by: Tux | Jun 18 2026 21:37 utc | 58 Why unfreeze Iran’s funds (some talk around $200 Billion). Not even counting the Reparations. Posted by: Suresh | Jun 18 2026 21:42 utc | 59 @Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 18 2026 17:30 utc | 6
Didn’t say ‘collude’. Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 18 2026 21:47 utc | 60 Trump is between rock and the hard place. If he won’t get rid of that monkey from his back by stopping supplying them with arms & cash, he will be toasted . The Iranians hold him by his balls. Poor guy. He’s getting older by the hour. Posted by: Jake | Jun 18 2026 21:49 utc | 61 Mark2 | Jun 18 2026 20:35 utc | 46 Final comment. Posted by: Suresh | Jun 18 2026 22:14 utc | 63 Cynic @ 62 Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 18 2026 22:17 utc | 64 One of the Duran’s better discussions, particularly on the symbolism of Versailles: Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 18 2026 22:21 utc | 65 Jake | Jun 18 2026 21:49 utc | 61 Mark2 | Jun 18 2026 22:17 utc | 64 Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Sayyed Mojtaba Hosseini Khamenei opposed the US-Iran Memorandum of (Mis)Understanding or Cynic @ 67 Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 18 2026 22:45 utc | 69 One question for the bar Posted by: Newbie | Jun 18 2026 22:50 utc | 70 Posted by: p3t3r | Jun 18 2026 17:03 utc | 2 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2026 23:03 utc | 71 I’m still calling it a draw where iran gained points, but on a more general play board? Posted by: smartfox | Jun 18 2026 23:05 utc | 72 Pepe Café Posted by: Soviético | Jun 18 2026 23:05 utc | 73 Assuming this isn’t all one big psyop, I hope James Donald Bowman has a trustworthy food taster. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2026 23:08 utc | 74 which is not ideal for China and Russia. Posted by: Newbie | Jun 18 2026 23:11 utc | 75 “But the Israelis hold him by his wallet.” Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2026 23:11 utc | 76 From Jimmy Dore. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2026 23:34 utc | 77 This is literally a deal with the Devil! How could anybody in their right mind mean this “ peace” is anything other than another betrayal, another attempt to weaken the prey? Peter Tosh famously said about negotiation’s with psychopaths,” Peace is the diploma you get in the cemetery.” Posted by: Space Cowboy | Jun 18 2026 23:35 utc | 78 I would say the checkmate on no more discounted/cheap/sanctioned oil for china would be for trump to lift RF sanctions…. Posted by: arby | Jun 18 2026 23:36 utc | 79 ^^^ The Larry Loomer tweet was from March. Not sure why this is being discussed now other than to kill the MOU. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2026 23:37 utc | 80 22:29 An Informed source told Al Mayadeen that the Iranian negotiating delegation has postponed its trip to Switzerland due to the ongoing Israeli aggression on southern Lebanon. 20:35 Lebanon: MP Fadlallah to Al Mayadeen: Iranian-American negotiations will begin with the first clause, which includes a ceasefire and guarantees for the safety of Lebanese territory. Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 18 2026 23:42 utc | 81 Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 18 2026 23:44 utc | 82 Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 18 2026 23:53 utc | 83 Fierce resistance being shown in southern Lebanon at the moment is covering that. Posted by: Ornot | Jun 18 2026 23:59 utc | 84 smartfox @ 48
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 19 2026 0:11 utc | 85 Iran has suspended its 60 day negotiation period with the US over the direct violation of the first clause of the peace deal. Posted by: KillerDoll | Jun 19 2026 0:16 utc | 86 Herein quoted from today’s market wrap at Zion Hedge:
Posted by: Harmonic Resonance | Jun 19 2026 0:28 utc | 87 Source: Posted by: KillerDoll | Jun 19 2026 0:28 utc | 88
Posted by: malenkov | Jun 19 2026 0:36 utc | 89 who is Channel 14? Is this the new Axios? Posted by: GreatLakesObserver | Jun 19 2026 0:44 utc | 90 The reformist faction won again. Ayatollahs never learn the reformist faction is not patriotic but actually traitors. “Iran’s Supreme Leader Issues Statement China News Service June 19, 2026 08: 18 312 people Read this chapter in Fiction Reader Go read Immerse yourself in reading in a novel reader △ Mujtaba Khamenei (file photo)On the evening of June 18 local time, Iran’s Supreme Leader, Mojtabah Khamenei, issued a statement on the memorandum of understanding between Iran and the United States.In his statement, he said:“As you know, the President of Iran and the President of the United States have signed a memorandum of understanding. In moving this process forward, a great deal of effort has been made by those responsible out of concern and goodwill. I disagreed in principle, but I granted permission on the basis of the commitment and clear responsibility of the Iranian President, as Chairman of the Supreme National Security Council, on his own behalf and on behalf of all the members of the Council, to uphold the rights of the Irian National and Resistance Front.” 。 https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/61EYw9UlIT4VoM9oNpCDhg Posted by: Surferket | Jun 19 2026 0:55 utc | 91 From previous thread on the MOU by arby | Jun 18 2026 15:00 utc | 200 Posted by: fairleft | Jun 19 2026 0:55 utc | 92 From Quds 16 minutes ago
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 19 2026 0:56 utc | 93 Posted by: fairleft | Jun 19 2026 0:55 utc | 99 LOL you haven’t heard Russia don’t have enough AD to defend itself let alone export any. Posted by: Surferket | Jun 19 2026 0:59 utc | 94 Posted by: GreatLakesObserver | Jun 19 2026 0:44 utc | 95 Posted by: Harmonic Resonance | Jun 19 2026 0:59 utc | 95 Posted by: fairleft | Jun 19 2026 0:55 utc | 99 Posted by: arby | Jun 19 2026 1:06 utc | 96 Bar Room Blitz = Berlitic Blitz Posted by: Harmonic Resonance | Jun 19 2026 1:11 utc | 97 Posted by: arby | Jun 19 2026 1:06 utc | 103 Don’t take it personal. Some people believe US biggest threat is Russia and not China. Posted by: Surferket | Jun 19 2026 1:14 utc | 98 psychohistorian | Jun 19 2026 0:56 utc | 100—
Global Times Chinese version of the postponed flight. “The Iranian delegation postponed its trip to Switzerland for negotiations with the United States because of the ongoing Israeli attacks on Lebanon; Mujtaba: There were differences of opinion on the memorandum of understanding in principle, but permission was granted. The Iranian delegation postponed its trip to Switzerland for negotiations with the United States because of the ongoing Israeli attacks on Lebanon; Mujtaba: There were differences of opinion on the memorandum of understanding in principle, but permission was granted Global Times 19 June 2026 07: 52 883 people Read this chapter in Fiction Reader Go read Immerse yourself in reading in a novel reader The Iranian negotiating delegation has postponed its trip to Switzerland due to the ongoing Israeli attacks on southern Lebanon, a source familiar with the matter said on Sunday. https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/fkKwrL6Q0CW39ra1SicJMw Posted by: Surferket | Jun 19 2026 1:31 utc | 100 |
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