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June 11, 2026
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Hersh: Trump discussed the possibility of using nuclear weapons against IranBy Anti-SpiegelJune 10, 2026, 11:05 PM
According to the journalist, the conversation focused on attacks against underground missile production facilities in the Islamic Republic.
 
NEW YORK, June 10 (TASS). US President Donald Trump recently inquired of his staff about the feasibility of using nuclear weapons against Iran, claims American journalist and Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh in his blog on the Substack platform.
 
According to Hersh, the conversation in which the US President mentioned nuclear weapons took place this week and was attended by high-ranking US government officials.
 
The discussion centered on attacks against underground missile production facilities in Iran. During the talk, the US President asked about the “feasibility” of using nuclear weapons to destroy some of these facilities.
 
As Hersh notes, at least one of the meeting’s participants was shocked that the US President so casually raised the possibility of a nuclear war in the Middle East. Trump was reportedly agitated and angry during the conversation, appearing at that moment determined to “avoid defeat in Iran at all costs.”
 
Trump also floated the idea of ​​warning the Iranian government that Washington was considering such an escalation “extremely seriously.” Apparently, according to the journalist, Trump was persuaded not to speak of a nuclear escalation.

Posted by: smartfox | Jun 11 2026 13:21 utc | 1

Where is the “U.S. stockpiles are running dangerously low” crowd these days? 

Posted by: CallSaul | Jun 11 2026 13:21 utc | 2

I also support USRaeli use of nukes to end the impasse. Use it or lose it.
The value of PHEAR ME! is inestimable. Might even bring about the surrenders of Russia and China.

Time for freedom of navigation depending on USA.

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 11 2026 13:25 utc | 3

Good news for all Mankind. Remember the date!

“According to CCTV news, on June 11 local time, US President Donald Trump said in a post on the social platform “Real Social” that the United States would implement a “strong strike” on Iran that night.
According to Xinhua, US President Donald Trump said the United States will carry out a heavy attack on Iran on the night of the 11th. In the near future, the United States will occupy Hark Island and other oil infrastructure and fully control Iran’s oil and gas markets.”

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/_sMBPQGyeGmmMG9e6HIh0w

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 11 2026 13:26 utc | 4

Congress and MIC make money (short term) out of busted planes and spent Patriots. And even if not enough skilled US workers, Israelies will move factories, set up shop in America, and acquire American military tech. There’s thus less incentive (on both sides) to end war, and more quiet incentive for endless war, enriching friends & family. Look: it’s the Broken Window fallacy in economics. But, like all very organized crime endeavors, this is detrimental to the long-term health of America and the world. Karma: Do wrong, and things turn out very wrongly.

Posted by: Imagine | Jun 11 2026 13:32 utc | 5

 

There is no way to make this stop except to go all-out against the Arab oil and energy infrastructure in the region.
I hope Iran realizes that this phase is much more existential than the first phase of the war. It must escalate.
Strikes on a nightly basis, especially on this scale, cannot and must not be normalized. That’s a death sentence.
 

— M.E.S

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 11 2026 13:32 utc | 6

Where is the “U.S. stockpiles are running dangerously low” crowd these days? 
 
Posted by: CallSaul | Jun 11 2026 13:21 utc | 2
 
A lot of bullshit has been flying around for the last 100 days, like the “Israel will be destroyed in two weeks”or that Netanyahoo is dead fantasies. Meanwhile Iran’s supposed leverage in closing the Hormuz strait has turned against them, making their oil exports or import of critical supplies nonexistent. Slowly but surely the US has become the world’s top exporter of oil and gas by volume, because that’s what it was all about as Michael Hudson has been pointing out for months, it is all about the control of oil by the US. US has the escalation dominance and Iran’s response has gotten weaker and weaker, instead of making preemptive strikes on airbases that the US has announced will launch strikes from in advance, they rather lob a few drones and missiles back at the gulf states after absorbing dozens of tomahawks by their radars and air defense.

Posted by: pinche | Jun 11 2026 13:35 utc | 7

HOLY SHT !

After threatening to take key Iranian energy installations, including Kharg Island, US President Donald Trump says that he is not convinced that Americans are willing to pay the price of taking the strategic site.
“We are talking to them, and all, but you know, look, my preference has always been — take Kharg Island,” he tells the “Fox and Friends” morning show.

 

“I don’t know that America has the stomach for it,” he acknowledges. Analysts say capturing the island would require putting thousands of ground troops in harm’s way.

15 minutes ago:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/trump-says-americans-may-not-back-capturing-iran-s-kharg-island/ar-AA25ofpj
Kharg Island is still on the table !
That idea has to be an Israeli idea. Has to be.
Netanyahu believes that if American troops are slaughtered in their thousands by Iran then Americans will do a 180 degree turn and start supporting the Greater Israel Project.
Trump has to be insane or hypnotized. Or both.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 11 2026 13:36 utc | 8

US President Donald Trump said the United States will carry out a heavy attack on Iran on the night of the 11th. In the near future, the United States will occupy Hark Island and other oil infrastructure and fully control Iran’s oil and gas markets.”
 
Posted by: Surferket | Jun 11 2026 13:26 utc | 4
 
 

But Mousie, thou art no thy-lane,
In proving foresight may be vain:
The best laid schemes o’ Mice an’ Men
          Gang aft agley,
An’ lea’e us nought but grief an’ pain,
          For promis’d joy!

— Robert Burns 

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 11 2026 13:36 utc | 9

A lot of bullshit has been flying around for the last 100 days, like the “Israel will be destroyed in two weeks”
 
Posted by: pinche | Jun 11 2026 13:35 utc | 7
 
I haven’t seen one instance of these.
 
 
I do believe israel will be under Palestinian rule by 2030.
 
 

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 11 2026 13:40 utc | 10

Where is the “U.S. stockpiles are running dangerously low” crowd these days?
Posted by: CallSaul | Jun 11 2026 13:21 utc | 2
 
Here: Trump:
https://www.rt.com/news/641419-trump-military-spending-boost/
 

Posted by: smartfox | Jun 11 2026 13:43 utc | 11

Posted by: CallSaul | Jun 11 2026 13:21 utc | 2
 
See the post right above yours.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 13:46 utc | 12

Kopmala woulda done all this too. Lol ok.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 13:51 utc | 13

Where is the “U.S. stockpiles are running dangerously low” crowd these days?

Posted by: CallSaul | Jun 11 2026 13:21 utc | 2
 
Inside the Pentagon. The White House isn’t taking any notice though.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 11 2026 14:00 utc | 14

Kopmala woulda done all this too. Lol ok.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 13:51 utc | 13

Let me introduce you to the concept of the Uniparty and how US policy does not change no matter which red/blue criminal gang occupies the government…

Posted by: AmericanIconoclast | Jun 11 2026 14:13 utc | 15

Quotes from various Robert Barnes interviews yesterday.
 

Napolitano: Who runs American foreign policy, Donald Trump or Marco Rubio?

 

Barnes: That’s a good question. I would say predominantly it’s the Israel lobby at the moment, but not alone. And then Trump’s emotional, psychological whims.

 
And
 

Barnes: Well, first I should say the ceasefire happens and then Lebanon as you point out now but also all the way back then [Israel] immediately breaches it. In fact, they you they escalate right after the ceasefire is entered into. And first people thought, oh they’re just doing that to try to get everything out before they have to really shut down with the ceasefire. No, they were doing it to completely undermine the ceasefire.
 
So in response the Iran said, “Well, we’re not fully opening up the Strait” Then the and then Trump said, “Okay, I’m keeping the blockade in.”
 
Then the deal is, there’s an announcement of a ceasefire. Iran announces the Starit is open.
 
And Trump decides to confabulate in his brain literally, just make it up that, oh really they’ve agreed to give me all their nuclear materials and they’ve agreed to all these things they didn’t agree to. And the and so Trump blows it up. Trump says oh, all throughout this the Iranians are playing us. No, it’s Trump playing everybody. The Iranians have been straightforward through the whole negotiations. Everybody inside the White House knows the guy that’s that keeps tap dancing around this is Trump himself.
 
So then Iran was like, “Okay, we’ll reclose the Strait.” And since then, at least six times, that original deal has been put back into force with just Iran demanding a little more each time. Like, okay, if you’re going to breach it, then we’re going to have to demand you pay a higher price before any good conditions get met….
 
Trump hits the panic button and he sees all this criticism from the Israel lobby because he obsessively watches Fox News.
He hears it, you know, from the donor class and from senators like Wicker and Graham and all those lunatics who he likes to listen to for whatever reason. And he chickens out over and over again.
 
And people always assumed he would chicken out in favor of the markets. Instead, he doesn’t. He chickens out in favor of the Israel lobby. He’s so intimidated and afraid of criticism from that crowd that he decides to make what was likely an accident if it was anything. The idea that a drone attacked and was was targeting a helicopter that was flying however high in the sky and the only two people on board come out completely unscathed. Sorry, that doesn’t happen….
 
So he immediately goes back in and starts escalating again. And in the in his confabulated mind, when he emotionally decides for psychological reasons, he needs to do something that’s just plainly stupid. Keeps saying, “Every other president before me has been stupid.” But and that’s how Iran has played him.
 
No, every other president before Trump has not been as stupid as Trump. He’s going to go down as the dumbest president we’ve ever had in his second term as as well as the most corrupt in American political history, which is saying something uh in the recent era. Trump decides to go back in and reescalate, and he’s talking about doing it again today….. When you can’t do either one of those deals, you’re literally dealing capable….
 
That’s why Joe Kent, I and some others with friends and allies on the anti-war side in the administration have been advocating from day one, just get Trump to get out.
 
He’s never going to do a reasonable deal. He’s not capable of doing a reasonable deal because he is so fear riddled..
 
This is why I keep telling people he can’t make a good decisions. His decision-making process is completely broken. The Trump, anyone has known from any time before, is gone.
 
It’s just gone. And so he’s he thinks like a toddler, like it’s two-year-old level thinking. And the consequence of that is what he will do is he will convince himself that the bad thing can’t happen. So when he when he changes direction for emotional reasons, he then rationalizes his decision…

 
From Naked Capitalism 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 14:28 utc | 16

Posted by: AmericanIconoclast | Jun 11 2026 14:13 utc | 15
 
Let me introduce you to reality. Obama implemented the JCPOA. AIPAC and the GOP hated it  Trumpstein tore it up and attacked Iran after assassinating Soleimani.
 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 14:30 utc | 17

More from Barnes on Nima:
 

He’s driven entirely by fear. Fear of humiliation, fear of embarrassment, fear of comparison to Obama, fear of criticism from the Fox News crowd and the Israel lobby, fear of being humiliated on the global stage if Iran actually does develop and show off that they have nukes. It’s just fear, fear, fear, fear, fear of getting so crushed in the midterms that he gets impeached and removed from the presidency. That’s all that’s motivating him. But whatever short term, whatever fear short-term dominates, he rationalizes and excuses and justifies to himself that the other fears on the other side of the ledger will never come true. And it takes massive efforts to break through to him.
 
That’s also why you see him flip-flop within a day, within a minute, within an hour. That’s different emotions, different fears dominate at different times. In my view is their best hope for the US, the world is a Trump exit not a Trump deal because he’s not capable of a deal.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 14:34 utc | 18

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 14:34 utc | 19
Despite the nonstop media coverage of Honest Donald Trump’s judeo-christian jihad on Iran, one thing you will never see is as analysis of the evidence that was presented by the MAGA regime Iran was in violation of JCPOA.  (none was presented)
And seven years later nobody in America is asking to see any either.
 

Posted by: chunga | Jun 11 2026 14:42 utc | 19

Mahmood OD: ‘US Operation to Occupy Kharg’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@Mahmood_OD/videos
 
“US-Iran war escalates| Trump declares operation to occupy Iranian territory| Iran hits back.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 11 2026 14:43 utc | 20

The world cowardliness is groundbreaking. The US shoots civilian ships and killed one Indian sailor. Why spend billions on defense when you are not defending yourself? In the whole world only Iran called them out. India should always stay retarded, betraying BRICS for Israel to get killed. All others stay silent as the global economy crashes. What happens in Belfast  should soon be happening all over the west, and not a single one must left be alive.
 
A ceasefire was  a mistake. The only way is to have  US/Israel beg for the war to end. Who cares if Iran bombs an elementary school? Who cares if Iran bombs a hospital? You fight an enemy without rules or morals, the most barbaric usual wins. And mostly, body bags. Nobody gives a damn about an aircraft, a military base, inflation, endless debt, killed Iranians or Lebanese, they do care about dead Americans. If you know the bunker they hide you bomb that, that’s the only target that matter. A billion dollar radar is for bookkeeping. Just think about it, the majority doesn’t support this war, what if tomorrow hundreds are swimming with the fish? Are they afraid citizens rally behind the US army? Read international channels, even when having a dislike for Iran not many support this war and see how pathetic the US is.  The US army might even refuse this unprovoked senseless war. They also see the illegal actions, targeting civilians, committing war crime. Whatever Iran does it’s not really working, there’s no sign the US has any intention of leaving the ME. I’m sure even when you ge hopeful information from negotiations that the US will accept this. The root of the problem is Iran and Iran is still there, so they better have that nuclear weapon ready by now.

Posted by: Ramon | Jun 11 2026 14:55 utc | 21

When you have Barnes and Kent, both intimately acquainted with Trump administration decision making saying “Israel” is effectively calling the shots for Trump what do people still do? Cry antisemitism and “explain” empire.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 14:56 utc | 22

Posted by: Ramon | Jun 11 2026 14:55 utc | 22
 
Agree in principal for sure but wait for $9 gas in red state USA. It’s about a month away.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 14:58 utc | 23

Daniel Davis: Alastair Crooke
 
https://www.youtube.com/@DanielDavisDeepDive/videos
 
“Russia, China, Iran working long term to defeat the West.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 11 2026 15:07 utc | 24

DW: Richard Wolff & Michael Hudson
 
https://www.youtube.com/@dialogueworks01/streams
 
“Iran humiliates Trump: The defeat he can’t escape.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 11 2026 15:14 utc | 25

More on the oil cliff and Trump administration from a comment at NC. Reposted in its entirety:
 

Trump’s proclamation about secret oil transport has to be more price manipulation, imo, with things getting close to the big squeeze.
 
I only read the machine transcript of Barnes’ report, but I am curious whether ‘everyone’ in the white house/admin was against this as he said, or rather that everyone is now looking for a scapegoat, what with crude about to hit the fan, the most natural ass to pin the tail on being Trump’s (whose patent cognitive decline makes it that much easier).
 
This way, they can even try to sanitize his reputation by claiming ‘this isn’t even the real Trump that we all supported’. Best case scenario, it’s seen as just an unfortunate tragedy befalling these great men, and not at all a result of rampant corruption and being wildly out of touch with reality, like somehow dementia in one man absolves every adult listening to him of their complicity.

 
Totally agree. TSHTF in August.

 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 15:15 utc | 26

https://x.com/mcdunban/status/2064862783825400041?s=20
 
Would be funny if true.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 15:26 utc | 27

R2R: ‘Genocide in Lebanon’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@reason2resist/videos
 
“The heroes of Nabatieh.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 11 2026 15:27 utc | 28

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 15:15 utc | 27

Check the weekly drawdown from the Strategic Oil Reserve for the US.  It’s decreased from previous weeks.  It is still going down but not as rapidly.  So they are sneaking some oil through.
Also, the American economy is suffering but the Iranian economy has collapsed.  While prices are higher for lower income Americans, the stock markets are soaring.  Anyone with even a little invested in the markets is making a killing.  This stalemate only benefits America.  Low casualty rate so the people back home don’t complain, all the while slowly sucking the life out of Iran.

Posted by: bored | Jun 11 2026 15:28 utc | 29

Sean Foo: ‘Financial Panic’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@SeanFooGold/videos
 
“US market collapse wipes investors as inflation triggers global panic.”
 
 
WAIC: ‘Inflation Surge Shock’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@lenapetrova/videos
 
“US inflation shock: Prices soar to 3-year high, worst is still to come.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 11 2026 15:36 utc | 30

Posted by: bored | Jun 11 2026 15:28 utc | 29
 
Sad to say but after decades of uniparty sanctions and sabotage the Iranians are mostly used to it. Check out Dimitri Lascaris on YouTube. Iran is not Cuba. And I trust this administration on SPR numbers during a catastrophic war of choice less than I trust their jury rigged jobs and inflation numbers. 
 
The cliff is coming and there’s no way to sneak enough oil through the straight to make a difference. Production in the ME is way down and reserves everywhere are critically low. I’m making a polymarket bet today on $8 gas by August 1. If I lose it’s not a bad thing but I doubt I will. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 15:37 utc | 31

bored | Jun 11 2026 15:28 utc | 29
 
The oil “getting through” does not reach all the way to the markets in a week or two or three … it’s mostly headed to Asia and it hasn’t even arrived yet. The only effect it would have in the drawdown would be a futures effect: less needed drawdown in anticipation of future. But that seems silly considering the recent restart of the war and attendant total shutdown. 
Btw, the despairing and desperation of team Trump is palpable … even the Zio-shills here sound off their feed.

Posted by: Caliman | Jun 11 2026 15:38 utc | 32

bored | Jun 11 2026 15:28 utc | 29
 
Given the current strategy of the US and Israel, the US has greater staying power. Iran’s responses are not as effective as they need to be.

Posted by: smartfox | Jun 11 2026 15:39 utc | 33

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 15:37 utc | 31
If this stalemate lasts through summer, we’ll know who has been telling the truth in regards to the Strategic Oil Reserve.  Apparently, it doesn’t have to hit 0/empty for the US to be in trouble.  There’s a certain minimum that must be maintained or the salt pits that hold the reserve will collapse.  Once that minimum is reached, no more oil can be drawn.

Posted by: bored | Jun 11 2026 15:40 utc | 34

A focus on oil is probably too narrow, there are lots of other products either not coming out of the Gulf at all, or at least in greatly-reduced quantities, with knock-on effects across all kinds of supply chains.
 
These effects have yet to fully play out. To look at just one, that of thermoplastics, oil-based but reliant on various other chemical inputs. It’s about this time of year that wholesale importers start to think about their stockpiles for the autumn and winter, things like Hallowe’en and Christmas goods and trinkets. Availability and pricing shocks are still to come.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 11 2026 15:52 utc | 35

Posted by: CallSaul | Jun 11 2026 13:21 utc | 2
Posted by: pinche | Jun 11 2026 13:35 utc | 7

Nice cope kiddos. Do you think America can make armaments appear out of thin air? 
America has already lost the war in Iran. Its just too stupid to realize it as yet. I suppose that includes you.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jun 11 2026 15:52 utc | 36

Posted by: bored | Jun 11 2026 15:40 utc | 34
 
Things will be bad before summer ends. At this juncture lagging effects are already (probably) insurmountable. Futures market rigging can only last so long before reality bites. And it’s clear Trump has no plans. “Inflation is good!”

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 15:53 utc | 37

All of this said it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Exxon et. al post record profits this FY.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 15:55 utc | 38

Posted by: smartfox | Jun 11 2026 15:39 utc | 33

I guess time will tell if your confidently asserted bullshit is true or if my reasonable unbiased assessments are. But I dont see a strategic victory of any kind for Maerica in the cards. I see humiliation and precipitous economic decline.
Trump today ‘I love inflation.’ Hope you feel the same since plenty of it is on the way, baked into the cake, as it were.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jun 11 2026 15:56 utc | 39

 
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/2065030165571272795
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺  @ejmalrai 
 
The deal between the US and Iran is impossible but the ceasefire is becoming difficult.
 
————————
 
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/33402#
 
‘Wrong strategies and impulsive actions will reset the entire board for the worse, explode energy infrastructure and markets and create an endless quagmire that you will be stuck in for years.
You will see a different Iran.’
 
———————
 
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/11/trump-says-us-will-seize-kharg-island-and-other-oil-infrastructure-points.html
Trump threatens to seize Kharg Island and other Iran oil infrastructure 
 
President Donald Trump said the U.S. military will attack Iran “VERY HARD TONIGHT.”
The U.S. will soon take over the country’s “oil infrastructure points” and its oil and gas markets, Trump said in a Truth Social post. 
Trump compared the forthcoming action to the U.S. operations in Venezuela, “which is working out brilliantly for both Venezuela and the United States of America,” he wrote…. 
 
…..Shortly after making those threats, Trump told Fox News that he is not sure “America has the stomach” to take Kharg. The U.S. is continuing to hold talks with Iran, the president said…..
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 11 2026 15:57 utc | 40

Syriana Analysis: Mohammad Marandi: ‘The Bomb Ready?’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@SyrianaAnalysis/streams
 
“Does Iran have the bomb? The new rules reshaping the Middle East.”
 
 
Going to also repost this critical information by Almassian on the  Armenia/Caucasus scenario and the Greater Israel project designed to counter both Iran and Russia.
 
This is Not America’s War, This is Israel’s War…
 
https://www.rt.com/shows/sanchez-effect/641317-almassian-armenia-nato-eu-membership/
 
“All the West’s actions point to efforts to ignite the Caucasus and create another point of tension on Russia’s border.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 11 2026 15:57 utc | 41

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 11 2026 13:36 utc | 9 
Thanks for that stanza!

Posted by: e-dog | Jun 11 2026 16:02 utc | 42

To take Kharg Island, or open the Straight of Persia, older Americans will have to sacrifice their children in the military. Their surest insurance for real happiness and contentment. No billionaire has to make this sacrifice.

Posted by: e-dog | Jun 11 2026 16:06 utc | 43

The Electronic Intifada Weekly: ‘Everybody Hates Israel’
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZG8yr7CeL8
 
Breaking news and analysis including Jon Elmer’s Resistance Report on Day 979 of the Genocide.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 11 2026 16:11 utc | 44

If a military operation set out with the intent of recreating the worst aspects of Gallipoli, Iwo Jima and Market Garden combined, then an attempt on Kharg Island looks a good candidate.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 11 2026 16:12 utc | 45

Posted by: smartfox | Jun 11 2026 13:21 utc | 1
Hersh is a proven Zionist.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 11 2026 16:13 utc | 46

Netanyahu’s favorite marching song;
 
onward Christian Soldiers

Posted by: Exile | Jun 11 2026 16:15 utc | 47

I also support USRaeli use of nukes to end the impasse. Use it or lose it.
The value of PHEAR ME! is inestimable. Might even bring about the surrenders of Russia and China.
 
Time for freedom of navigation depending on USA.
 
Posted by: Surferket | Jun 11 2026 13:25 utc | 3
Behold this genocidal Zio who has just strolled into the bar.  
Black spot on ye, ye devil!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 11 2026 16:15 utc | 48

all I can say if Trump goes nuclear so too might North Korea, Russia and China.. this talk, this kind of thinking could end most of civilization.. 

Posted by: snake | Jun 11 2026 16:17 utc | 49

Posted by: smartfox | Jun 11 2026 15:39 utc | 33
 
I guess time will tell if your confidently asserted bullshit is true or if my reasonable unbiased assessments are. But I dont see a strategic victory of any kind for Maerica in the cards. I see humiliation and precipitous economic decline.
Trump today ‘I love inflation.’ Hope you feel the same since plenty of it is on the way, baked into the cake, as it were.
 
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jun 11 2026 15:56 utc | 39
No need to wait, dumbfox is consistently wrong.  He’s looking to crypto Zio Hersh for answers and encouraging us all to join him.  
Just a more sophisticated agent of Zio Imperialism.  Not worth your time, Doc.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 11 2026 16:19 utc | 50

Posted by: bored | Jun 11 2026 15:40 utc | 34
 
Things will be bad before summer ends. At this juncture lagging effects are already (probably) insurmountable. Futures market rigging can only last so long before reality bites. And it’s clear Trump has no plans. “Inflation is good!”
 
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 15:53 utc | 37
 
Correct.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 11 2026 16:20 utc | 51

 
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/33402#
 
—❗️🇺🇸/🇮🇷 Iran’s Parliament Speaker & Chief Negotiator, Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf: 
‘Wrong strategies and impulsive actions will reset the entire board for the worse, explode energy infrastructure and markets and create an endless quagmire that you will be stuck in for years.You will see a different Iran.’
 
————————–
 
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/186392#
DD Geopolitics 
 
🇮🇷 IRAN TO MOVE SPACEX TO TARGET LIST!! 
Iran is moving to add all Musk-linked assets in the Middle East including Starlink ground stations and SpaceX infrastructure to its military target list, per Fars.  Sites in Israel, Qatar, Jordan, the UAE, and Oman reportedly under review. 
SpaceX’s IPO is tomorrow. 
Wall Street prices the offering hours after Tehran declares the company’s network a legitimate military target
 
—————————
 
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/iran-reveals-intel–op–tracing-us-military-aircraft-to-dieg
Iran reveals intel. op. tracing US military aircraft to Diego Garcia  
Iranian sources claim a sophisticated intelligence operation tracked US P-8 aircraft and F-35 jets across multiple bases in the Gulf and Jordan…….
 
 
https://t.me/MaxOsintIntel/13317#
MaxOsint Intel 
 
⚡️🇮🇷🇺🇸🇯🇴🇰🇼🇧🇭 — An informed Iranian source claimed Tehran executed a “coordinated intelligence and strike plan” targeting early Thursday U.S. military positions in the region, alleging “significant damage” to U.S. equipment while Washington has not confirmed impact assessments, Fars News Agency reported. 
 
➡️ The source stated Iranian forces tracked two U.S. P-8 aircraft from Diego Garcia and Western Europe toward the southern Persian Gulf before identifying and targeting their locations at Sheikh Isa Air Base in Bahrain and Ali Al Salem Air Base in Kuwait with “precision weapons”. 
 
➡️ It also claimed Iranian surveillance monitored at least three U.S. F-35s at Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in Jordan prior to launch and subsequently “struck the hangar location with long-range solid-fuel missiles”. 
ℹ️ Claims not independently verifiable
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 11 2026 16:21 utc | 52

bored | Jun 11 2026 15:28 utc | 29
 
Given the current strategy of the US and Israel, the US has greater staying power. Iran’s responses are not as effective as they need to be.
 
Posted by: smartfox | Jun 11 2026 15:39 utc | 33
You don’t say?  Dumbfox has already called it for you.  Might as well just pack it in and learn to love Israel.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 11 2026 16:22 utc | 53

rt
petrochemical tanker reported a fire off the Oman coast on Thursday after US forces fired at it, the third such incident this week around the Strait of Hormuz. 
India’s foreign ministry called the attacks deeply concerning and said all the 20 Indian crew members on board the ship are safe. 
The incident comes after New Delhi lodged a diplomatic protest with the US Charge d’Affairs on Wednesday following the death of three Indians when another tanker was struck.
The US Central Command said it acted against the Guinea-Bissau flagged MT Jalveer as it “attempted to transport oil from Iran through the Gulf of Oman.” 
It said an aircraft fired two Hellfire missiles into the ship’s engine room after the crew “repeatedly failed” to comply with directions from US forces.
 

Posted by: Jo | Jun 11 2026 16:23 utc | 54

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 11 2026 13:40 utc | 10
Isnoreal will not exist by 2030, I agree.
Iran will pay the highest price but will emerge victorious, together with the axes of resistance.
USrael will be dismembered and weak, together with EU. However, before that they will inflict a lot of damage on the rest of the world and their own.
False resistance to imperialism will also be significantly weakened, such as Russia ( dear donald tm by putin, what a dork he is, and calculating, trading above all China, so materialistic as to submit to trade with the criminal regimes).
Talk is cheap, and we see that.
There was movement much more noble- non aligned, my country was one of the leaders since late 50ties. Iran is still a member.
BRICS is a pretentious trade concern spouting lies and cowardice.
Thank you for your thoughtful posts from the wise east.
SFSN

Posted by: stranger | Jun 11 2026 16:25 utc | 55

US President Donald Trump has called on Republicans in Congress to pass a $350 billion military spending package that would also impose sweeping new national voting rules before the midterm elections.
In a Truth Social post on Thursday, Trump urged lawmakers to move “immediately” on what he called “Recon 3.0,” a new budget bill that Republicans hope to pass without Democratic support.
Trump said the money is needed to bring the US military budget to $1.5 trillion and “build the arsenal of freedom.” He said the package would fund the Golden Dome missile shield, the F-47 fighter, the B-21 bomber, drones, space-based military capabilities and new ammunition stockpiles.

Posted by: Jo | Jun 11 2026 16:44 utc | 56

John Gilberts 24
Daniel Davis on Kellogg and Kharg Island.
https://www.youtube.com/live/xrTG9z1gfvU?is=1DbJ3w7B0teJ1Tuc

Posted by: Giyane | Jun 11 2026 16:45 utc | 57

NB a@ Arch
 
I like how Iran plans and destroys layers of defense of the vassal little arab kingdoms who are doing all they can to defend genocidal entity and prove loyalty to main genocidal US.
UAE, finito
Bahrain, finito
Now moving to north to Jordan, main traitor, destroying al monaffaq air base with 15 us planes, finishing up Kuwait…
Destroying the rings of defense for bloody genociders in usrael, than lying the fuck…ing settlers low and totally exposed to fire.
Can not wait for them all to die in flames, very painfully. For each child let them pay thousand more times in pain.
Thank you.

Posted by: stranger | Jun 11 2026 16:45 utc | 58

 

Where is the “U.S. stockpiles are running dangerously low” crowd these days? 
Posted by: CallSaul | Jun 11 2026 13:21 utc | 2

I also support USRaeli use of nukes to end the impasse. Use it or lose it.
Posted by: Surferket | Jun 11 2026 13:25 utc | 3

What a couple of Zio Bots.  
         Trump is getting jumpy because November is Freight Train coming down the tracks that Netanyahu tied him to.  Trump is the goat, but too stupid to see it.
     Nukes?  Israel will cease to exist within  24 hours of them or Uncle Schlomo flying Nukes into Iran. Period.
     Even Europe better pay attention to the End-of-Earther Israelis.

Posted by: kupkee | Jun 11 2026 16:46 utc | 59

Nice cope kiddos. Do you think America can make armaments appear out of thin air? America has already lost the war in Iran. Its just too stupid to realize it as yet. I suppose that includes you.
 
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jun 11 2026 15:52 utc | 36
 
Yes, ordinary americans have lost, it is the epstein class and MIC who is winning. The numbers in their bank accounts and scores of dead iranians and lebanese certainly prove so, while Iran can’t do anything about it. It can’t create more air defenses and industries that have been destroyed from thin air either, so what exactly am I coping with? I am not iranian, american or israeli and even though I wish the latter two would disappear from the face of the earth, the reality on the ground is far from it. Just like Iran is from dispatching the US from the gulf and middle east.

Posted by: pinche | Jun 11 2026 16:46 utc | 60

Posted by: CallSaul | Jun 11 2026 13:21 utc | 2
 
Ask all the Patriot missile customers.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 16:53 utc | 61

Just like Iran is from dispatching the US from the gulf and middle east.
 
Posted by: pinche | Jun 11 2026 16:46 utc | 60
 
Fallacy of believing western media will tell you how many US bases are effectively abandoned or destroyed.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2026 16:57 utc | 62

re: the unrelenting battle between US/Israel and Iran
When a fight persists between 2 parties and “just will not resolve”, there is a hidden, 3rd party promoting that fight. Look for and spot the hidden 3rd party!
Hear Michael Hudson today, at 13:00 minutes on Nima Alkhorshid program …     http://www.   youtube.com/   watch?v=67SDkp9xuao
Big OIL !  [Only Petroleum  and Banking had/have giant cash flows…and so they later joined together.]
And it has been ongoing at least since the 1943 Big Three meeting in Teheran …read Road To TeHeran  by Foster Rhea Dulles of that famous family [John Foster, Alan and Eleanor Dulles].  

Posted by: Chu-Teh | Jun 11 2026 17:00 utc | 63

Yes, ordinary americans have lost, it is the epstein class and MIC who is winning

Please define winning in this context. Do you mean stealing as much as they can before they bust the place out – that is, the American economy? For it seems to me thats all the winning they are doing. Short term profiteering and deliberately tanking their own economy mistakenly thinking it will stall Chinas rise.
The Epstein class wins little, since China still rises. They just get to rule over a technofeudalist heap of shit until the residents finally rise up and depose then. Which won’t take that long in real terms even if none of us here live to see it. Its still inevitable. These clowns have never been able to see beyond their noses.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jun 11 2026 17:01 utc | 64

For it seems to me thats all the winning they are doing. Short term profiteering and deliberately tanking their own economy mistakenly thinking it will stall Chinas rise.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jun 11 2026 17:01 utc | 64
 
This has been the idea for some time now of a fairly large group with a significant river flow. Read ”
The Great Reset”
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Reset#Regierungen
 

Posted by: smartfox | Jun 11 2026 17:07 utc | 65

TRT World: Mouin Rabbani
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfzD5f_p5ps
 
“First phase of IRGC’s offensive carried out.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 11 2026 17:08 utc | 66

Kharg Island is still on the table !That idea has to be an Israeli idea. Has to be.
Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 11 2026 13:36 utc | 8
 
There is footage of Trump talking about Kharg Island in the 80s.    The US has a history of its own that should not be rationalized, minimized, or blamed on someone else.
 
This is an imperialist country and it’s doing what it has been doing for 250, killing and looting.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Jun 11 2026 17:26 utc | 67

@60
 
Trump wants $350 billion more USD for war profiteers.
 
Best case some highly profitable, less than useable super rockets can increase the pitiful output by 2033.
 
US can print money and line pockets, if Xi don’t release rare earths U.S. weapons are whims.

Posted by: paddy | Jun 11 2026 17:26 utc | 68

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jun 11 2026 17:01 utc | 64
You, unconscious sick settler society based on lies and hatred…Based on killing and lies.
You will expire in flames, exactly like you plotted for the world to go in order to plunder it.
You have no idea how the world hates and despises you.
You will be vomited out from the surface of the planet.
Your president is exact mirror of what you mostly are:
-stinking pedo, filling his diapers
– talking shit all the time
-not able to understand that you are hated, laughed at and despised all over this planet
– you are totally avoid of any decency
– you deserve to dissapear
 
Nobody wants you nearby, you stink usians.
 
 

Posted by: stranger | Jun 11 2026 17:27 utc | 69

Posted by: bored | Jun 11 2026 15:28 utc | 29
They got out nothing. Just from the story told and a bathymetric chart you can tell that the story is nonsense.
there is no place near the coast on the southern side of the straits that is deep enough for a ladened oil tanker to get through south of the main channel. Does not exist. So to ‘sneak’ a tanker through you are transiting within range of a medium field gun of Iranian islands and visible to a mark 1 eyeball on anything but rainy night. Been through the strait too many times to fall for this story.

Posted by: Badjoke | Jun 11 2026 17:29 utc | 70

currently WTI Oil falls like a stone, from 92 to 88 in 1 min.

Posted by: smartfox | Jun 11 2026 17:34 utc | 71

Reading from the bottom up…
 

“…in regards to the Strategic Oil Reserve.  Apparently, it doesn’t have to hit 0/empty for the US to be in trouble.  There’s a certain minimum that must be maintained or the salt pits that hold the reserve will collapse.  Once that minimum is reached, no more oil can be drawn.”
Posted by: bored | Jun 11 2026 15:40 utc | 34

 
 
Last month Naked Capitalism hosted an article by someone who knows the specifics of the salt storage caverns for the US’s SOR.
 
He wrote that every drawdown, not only excessive drawdowns, diminishes the life of the salt caverns.  Not sure where we are now in terms of longevity but it appears that no concern is being expressed for the reserves being used wisely for the benefit of the people.
 
Once there is no reserve left the oil barons will dance with glee.
 
 

Posted by: suzan | Jun 11 2026 17:36 utc | 72

US Pocketed $15B Oil Windfall During Middle East Conflict
 
https://sputnikglobe.com/20260611/us-pocketed-15b-oil-windfall-during-middle-east-conflict-1124296286.html
 

Posted by: smartfox | Jun 11 2026 17:40 utc | 73

It would appear that those on this column supporting US action and belittling Irans capabilities are deliberately ignoring known facts.
These are that the US military cannot procure the rare earths required to build their depleted inventories. China own the supply chain. Further tungsten can be added to that list as can titanium that Russia has a stranglehold on.
The more inventory used trying to blast mountains apart the worse it becomes. China and Russia are watching the US disarm themselves. Unfortunately that will promote nuclear options.

Posted by: Fisher | Jun 11 2026 17:40 utc | 74

@71

Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma

“Trump cancels today’s strikes on Iran”

:-/

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 11 2026 17:42 utc | 75

ON: Toronto Crawls With Israel
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HotEId-J-EU
 
“Toronto crawled with Israel…’Want to thank the Persian community for also coming out.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 11 2026 17:43 utc | 76

Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma

“Trump’s tweet on the Truth Social platform in full:

Subject to negotiations with the Islamic Republic of Iran reaching and agreeing to the highest levels of Iranian leadership, I, as President of the United States of America, announce the cancellation of the planned strikes and bombings against Iran tonight. The negotiations and final points were approved in principle and detail by all parties involved, including the United States, Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Turkey, Pakistan, Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan, Egypt, and others. The naval blockade will remain in effect until the agreement is completed. The date and location of the signing will be announced soon.”

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 11 2026 17:44 utc | 77

🙂 Is this the part where humans hoard consumables through panic buying?, things like milk, sliced bread, and toilet paper — in a fit of pique! 😀 (I hope I used that correctly in a sentence.)
 
🙂 I’ve also noticed the Iranian spankings have let up over the last few hours, while the USraeli back talk has become more bombastic than usual. Is this normal during human discipline? I’ve heard some religious folks say ‘spare the rod, spoil the child’. Would that apply here, or is USrael too big of a baby chick for that to apply? (Does that analogy work?)

Posted by: titmouse | Jun 11 2026 17:45 utc | 78

President Donald Trump says he has cancelled planned strikes and bombings against Iran after discussions were allegedly approved by the “highest level” of the Iranian leadership.

Posted by: arby | Jun 11 2026 17:45 utc | 79

Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma
“Trump cancels today’s strikes on Iran”
Posted by: Ornot | Jun 11 2026 17:42 utc | 75
 
Aha, that explains the sudden drop in oil prices.

Posted by: smartfox | Jun 11 2026 17:47 utc | 80

ℹ️ Claims not independently verifiable Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 11 2026 16:21 utc | 52
 
”Subject to negotiations with the Islamic Republic of Iran reaching and agreeing to the highest levels of Iranian leadership, I, as President of the United States of America, announce the cancellation of the planned strikes and bombings against Iran tonight.”
 
Sounds like it’s been verified.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Jun 11 2026 17:47 utc | 81

Thanks to one and all. For the information and thoughts(insights). It rises above the ordinary.

Posted by: Upsidedowndingo | Jun 11 2026 17:49 utc | 82

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jun 11 2026 15:52 utc | 36
As long as “Space Balls 2: the Search for More Money” is playing throughout the entirety of the economy, the war isn’t over. if the US populace accepts what ICE is doing,  what’s happening to Medicare, SNAP, education, etc., we’ll accept the manufacture of war no matter many missiles are or are not in stock. and we’ll pray to obscure crypto deities not to be automated into cashless irrelevance, while cheering the pope blessing a Babel tower built by his real estate business partners.
 
keep those bombs a-droppin’, even if they are only really dropping on AI-generated YT videos. more DOD money for Top Gun: Mavericks! put a chick in it next time. IDF vet Gal Gadot is a wicked Jewish queen.
 
seriously, how many Americans w/our 4th grade education level can figure out whether Lockheed makes bombs or fake videos?
 
anyway, when JCPOA passed cuz of traitor Obomber, didn’t he himself or Kerry or HRC say, “the next admin can just trash it, i mean, review it?” more perfidy, more “Minsk” and “Oslo” and such. now we can blame Trump for JCPOA’s death, not Libya’s liberator. just like it was Biden who lost Afghanistan.

Posted by: duck n cover | Jun 11 2026 17:52 utc | 83

Trump’s True Social post
https://x.com/GuntherEagleman/status/2065125053956599972

Posted by: Monty | Jun 11 2026 17:52 utc | 84

@81
 
Trump shot 50 Tomahawks last night, he cannot afford them, nor damage done in response to US assets near  Persian gulf.

Posted by: paddy | Jun 11 2026 17:53 utc | 85

@77 Ornot

Auto-translate error, original text starts :

“Based on the fact that discussions with the Islamic Republic of Iran have been brought to the highest level of Iranian leadership and approved, I have, as President of the United States…”

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 11 2026 17:53 utc | 86

Looks like last nights bombings caused serious damage, Iran agrees to high level talks according to Trump.

Posted by: bored | Jun 11 2026 17:54 utc | 87

‘China and Russia are watching the US disarm themselves. Unfortunately that will promote nuclear options.’

So the obvious next question would then be why would Russia and China promote nuclear options as they are obviously well aware of this situation themselves?

This of course assumes the underlying premise that the US has few weapons left but frankly no one knows how many weapons the US has left and this may well be a case of the devil making people believe he is less powerful than he really is at this point in time.

And this still allows for the premise that the empire may in fact be much weaker than it was previously and may in fact have substantially less weapons and less weapon-producing capability than it previously had.

Both can be true.

As for Russia and China:

‘when did countries cut all diplomatic and business ties with nazi germany?’

By the end of 1941, most nations opposed to the Axis powers had severed ties completely

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=when+did+countries+cut+all+diplomatic+and+business+ties+with+nazi+germany%3F&t=lm&ia=web

SEVERED TIES COMPLETELY

‘do russia and china stilL maintain diplomatic and business ties with israel despite its constant warring and genocide?’

Yes, Russia and China still maintain diplomatic and business ties with Israel, although these relationships have been strained due to ongoing conflicts and criticisms of Israel’s actions.

Both countries have refrained from taking significant punitive measures against Israel, opting instead to maintain the diplomatic and economic status quo.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=do+russia+and+china+stil+maintain+diplomatic+and+business+ties+with+israel+despite+its+constant+warring+and+genocide%3F&ia=web&assist=tru

OPTING TO MAINTAIN THE DIPLOMATIC AND ECONOMIC STATUS QUO

Posted by: Agonizing Reappraisal | Jun 11 2026 17:54 utc | 88

@85
 
I wonder who bought the dip?
 
Markets all spiked up just now.

Posted by: paddy | Jun 11 2026 17:59 utc | 89

…must wait for Iranian response…

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 11 2026 18:04 utc | 90

Rock the Cradle, Ep 29, Pravin Sawhney
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VvY2Nx3BlE
 
“No way Iran can lose, no way the US can win.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 11 2026 18:17 utc | 91

The Unz Review has published a well-sourced article on the Soviet concentration camps (GULAG). 
Excerpt:
“We will look at the three Jews who headed the Gulag in the 1930s [time of Great Purges], and their boss, the head of the NKVD, Genrikh Yagoda.[1] … These four men [Yagoda, Kogan, Berman, and Pliner]—full-blooded Jews all—ruled over millions of prisoners who were treated essentially as slaves with no rights, and worked them, by the hundred thousand, literally to death.  …
In 1930 the campaign of collectivization was filling the Gulag with new prisoners, and the NKVD was gearing up to align the camps with the economic goals of the regime on a more ambitious scale… Yakov Yakovlev (real name Epstein) was the Commissar of Agriculture at this time. Solzhenitsyn called him, in reference to his role in collectivization, “the murderer of the peasantry.” The Jew Boris Bak was the head of the secret police in the Middle Volga region and collectivized that region. The Jew Filipp Goloshchekin was in charge of Kazakhstan and exterminated about forty percent of the population during this time. …
If the faces and deeds of these men—and other Jewish Bolsheviks—sink deeply into the popular consciousness, a dramatic change in attitude toward the Jewish Question will become irresistible, much as the recent Gaza slaughter catalyzed a powerful reaction against the Jewish state and a growing appreciation of its genocidal imperative. Hopefully this article can help raise these four representatives of the Jewish nation to the profile they deserve, in the front rank of the greatest mass murderers of history. …
These men were not simply mass murderers, however; their plan was global genocide. … Had they gained such power, they would have exterminated everyone who stood out from the common mass of humanity. It would have been (and was, in Russia, for decades) a particularly monstrous program: kill everyone of worth so the rest could be enslaved. In this sense, the agenda of communism seems identical to that of Talmudic Jewry.”
“Kill everyone of worth.” – That was Russia’s tragedy—a tragedy the people of Russia endured for 70 years.

Posted by: Anna | Jun 11 2026 18:19 utc | 92

According to BBC World Service 10 minutes ago Trump has slithered into TACO Mode for Iran.
 
Iran has told Trump to shove his threats and blackmail where the Sun doesn’t shine and promised to retalliate and escalate for every US attack.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 11 2026 18:30 utc | 93

UPDATE: As Expected, An Agreement In Principle On A Framework For A Deal Has Been Reached Without Any Official Iranian Approval
So the exact same thing that happened 2 weeks ago, which led us to two days of major clashes & Israel bombing Beirut that triggered an Iranian response.
mintpress

Posted by: Jo | Jun 11 2026 18:31 utc | 94

A lot of bullshit has been flying around for the last 100 days…
Posted by: pinche | Jun 11 2026 13:35 utc | 7

Exactly. Once in a while you have to take a step back and reevaluate who’s perspectives have real-world predictive value. 

Posted by: CallSaul | Jun 11 2026 18:32 utc | 95

ultimately, its every rat for itself.
less than ideal social mechanics 

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jun 11 2026 18:32 utc | 96

Thinking Trump’s personality is significant is a trap.
 
 
Obsessing about nukes is a trap.
 
 
I can’t tell if people are deliberately regurgitating talking points they know are bs, or are just not thinking for themselves.
 
 
 

Posted by: Rae | Jun 11 2026 18:35 utc | 97

There must be an intellectual elite at work behind US policy?
 
Are the neocons really the ones? If so I know  over two decades ago Britains corresponding intellectuals who may well be called neocons played an influential role.
 
Jewish Lobby or some figure in the government apart from Trump, doesnt suffice .
 
That isnt how Britain used to operate and the Thinktanks CFR, Brookings etc I expect to be part of it. Britain’s agents of influence invaded the US and have been very influential.  Meaning the US power structure isnt entirely homemaid.  But I am not saying the British still are that influential although I know that was still the case after the year 2000.
But anyway perhaps it would be more meaningful to throw some light on the intellectual elites behind the scenes. In the British case it was their academics who formed the foreign policy often including the interference in targeted nations.
 
And that normally goes unmentioned. Many people cite various academics as if they were pure scientists doing their best to find and communicate the truth,
 
In reality they were to a significant degree running the empire.
 
So what is it like in the US today I wonder.
 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 11 2026 18:35 utc | 98

As of 2:15pm est the US stock market up over 700 points as oil magically goes down when Drumpft announces no attack tonight.  Wanna bet the 1% placed some bets on futures or options this morning?
We are all suckers and the rich keep getting richer.

Posted by: DR | Jun 11 2026 18:37 utc | 99

Trump can blather on as much as he wants, Iran is obviously driving the plot.  I suspect the Iranian plan to let the Western economy implode is working, Trump tried to restart the war and Iran’s military response caused Trump to panic, 1st threatening to invade all of Iran before being talked off the ledge by the pentagon and now Trump is saying everything is fine, the Iranians have agreed to everything and will sign the documents “soon” but until they do Trump’s blockade will continue.   So in other words exactly what we had last week.  
Does anyone have any more news about that allegation of a US warship that was hit by the Iranians the other day or a how many (if any) US aircraft were destroyed on the tarmac in Jordan?

Posted by: Kadath | Jun 11 2026 18:38 utc | 100