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May 20, 2026
War On Iran: – Was This Really The Crazy Plan For Regime Change In Iran?

Was an USsraeli agent positioned and expected to take over Iran?

That question is coming up when reading a new New York Times story that is making the rounds.

Early War Goal Was to Install Hard Line Former President as Iran’s Leader (archived) – NY Times, May 20 2026
An Israeli strike designed to free Mahmoud Ahmadinejad from house arrest in Tehran, U.S. officials said, was part of an effort to bring about regime change and put him in power.

The gist of the story:

It turns out that the United States and Israel went into the conflict with a particular and very surprising someone in mind: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the former Iranian president known for his hard-line, anti-Israel and anti-American views.

But the audacious plan, developed by the Israelis and which Mr. Ahmadinejad had been consulted about, quickly went awry, according to the U.S. officials who were briefed on it.

Mr. Ahmadinejad was injured on the war’s first day by an Israeli strike at his home in Tehran that had been designed to free him from house arrest, the American officials and an associate of Mr. Ahmadinejad said. He survived the strike, they said, but after the near miss he became disillusioned with the regime change plan.

There are many questions which let one doubt the veracity of the story.

Ahmadinejad, who has been president of Iran from 2005 to 2013, is a bygone politician. He has no institutional following and is openly despised by many people in Iran. There is no chance that he could again be holding a leading position in Iran. Neither the state institutions nor the law would allow that.

Even if that has been a plan why would the Trump administration leak it now? Why would Amadinejad, an USraeli asset if the story is right, be outed as a traitor?

Why was his house bombed? Ahmadinejad was under house arrest and had to be freed by bombing him?

But the NY Times also mentions that he has traveled a lot:

In the past few years Mr. Ahmadinejad has made trips out of Iran that further fueled speculation.

In 2023, he traveled to Guatemala and in 2024 and 2025 he went to Hungary, trips detailed by New Lines magazine.

The New Lines magazine (a dubious outlet in my view) piece does not mention any house arrest of Ahmadinejad. Is there any evidence that his movement had indeed been restricted?

The whole Israeli plan, if real, was lunatic in the first place:

At the outset, Israel envisioned the war unfolding in several phases, starting with air assaults by the United States and Israel plus the killing of Iran’s supreme leaders and the mobilization of Kurds to fight Iranian forces, according to two Israeli defense officials familiar with the operational planning.

Then, the Israeli plan foresaw a combination of influence campaigns carried out by Israel and the Kurdish invasion creating political instability in Iran and a sense that the regime was losing control. In a third stage, the regime, under intense political pressure and the weight of damage to key infrastructure like electricity, would collapse, allowing for what the Israelis referred to as an “alternative government” to be established.

If that indeed was a plan it certainly wasn’t a viable one.

But it may have been the story that was successfully sold to Trump.

The ‘U.S. officials’ who are leaking these claims may well intend to blame Israel for convincing Trump to launch this war.

That is another aspect I find hard to buy.

Comments

I bet this is misinformation sowed to divide the Iranian people and its leadership.

Posted by: KillerDoll | May 20 2026 17:10 utc | 1

KillerDoll | May 20 2026 17:10 utc | 1
 
Agree 100%. It’s a PsyOp designed to sow FUD within those very few who read the NY Times in Iran.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 20 2026 17:13 utc | 2

Izzies are squirting a lot of squid ink at the moment.

Posted by: ChatNPC | May 20 2026 17:18 utc | 3

I doubt that the story they sold Trump included Ahmadinejad .  Ahmadinejad has been demonized in US propaganda for years, and Trump internalizes propaganda and never drops it. 
 
Launch a war to put in Ahmadinejad?   That doesn’t seem like a winning proposal to put in front of Trump.

Posted by: wagelaborer | May 20 2026 17:19 utc | 4

Seems to me if USrael couldn’t take Ahmadinejad with a missile strike, they hope now to have him eliminated by the Iranians by hawking a bullshit story claiming he was treasonous.

Posted by: malenkov | May 20 2026 17:24 utc | 5

“Then, the Israeli plan foresaw a combination of influence campaigns carried out by Israel and the Kurdish invasion creating political instability in Iran and a sense that the regime was losing control.”
 
This part sounds right and per the SOP of the Anglo/Iz playbook. The funny thing is that this very story is a textbook example of such an influence campaign to sow instability 🙂 … 

Posted by: Caliman | May 20 2026 17:34 utc | 6

who is the Cuban Ahmadinejad?
 
wrong question. who is the Cuban Jolani? i suspect the gangsters in Florida won’t have a problem w/that one.
 
so Ahmadinejad was Tel Aviv’s Man in Teheran? is that plausible? are they trying to make it sound like they have someone like VZ’s Darcy waiting in the rubble-filled wings?

Posted by: duck n cover | May 20 2026 17:43 utc | 7

Good afternoon everyone (I live in the 5th time zone here in Brazil; it’s the main time zone of Greenland). Well, about the Epic Fury… Everyone knew about the extremely high risk involved in this infamous operation. Our host is perplexed by each new version that emerges! I believe the “tipping point” was the successful kidnapping of Maduro in Venezuela.

Posted by: Elber | May 20 2026 17:43 utc | 8

@2 “Agree 100%. It’s a PsyOp designed to sow FUD within those very few who read the NY Times in Iran.”
 
Yes the NYT is only used in times of emergencies. When  Toilet Paper in unavailable. 

Posted by: golddigger | May 20 2026 17:46 utc | 9

within those very few who read the NY Times in Iran.
 
Posted by: karlof1 | May 20 2026 17:13 utc | 2
 

 
Ooophf!
 

Posted by: too scents | May 20 2026 17:50 utc | 10

Disinformation … a distraction from global outcry …
 
Türkiye, Western allies condemn ’barbaric’ treatment of Gaza flotilla activists

Posted by: Oui | May 20 2026 17:51 utc | 11

This sounds like some one.
 
Wrote the knowns.
 
The known unknowns.
 
On scraps of paper and drew from a kippa.
 
 

Posted by: Tannenhouser | May 20 2026 17:54 utc | 12

At the outset, Israel envisioned the war unfolding in several phases, starting with air assaults by the United States and Israel plus the killing of Iran’s supreme leaders and the mobilization of Kurds to fight Iranian forces, according to two Israeli defense officials familiar with the operational planning.

This war plan is 100% Israel style Grand Delusion with No Back Up plan.
 
The Kurds wouldn’t throw away their lives to become disposable chess pawns even without the US betrayal. That’s human nature.
 
Most Iranians aren’t stupid enough to abandon their lives, properties and relationships for a war within their families and homeland despite how much AI and influencers telling them otherwise.
 
Winning this war is not even an objective but starting this war with no end sight is.

Posted by: KillerDoll | May 20 2026 18:00 utc | 13

OT–OT–OT
 
I see Scott Ritter is on many of today’s podcasts likely warning of the rising threat of a NATO-Russia war that could involve nukes, an assumption based on what he’s been saying on recent podcasts. On this point, RT has translated, slightly edited and published another important essay by Sergey Karaganov that was first published in the Russian Profile publication: “How Russia can win the new world war.” According to the Profile version, “This article is a fragment of a broader and deeper essay that will be published in May on the website of the journal Russia in Global Affairs, and then in paper version.” I checked and it has yet to appear. The title ought to arouse everyone’s attention and motivation to read what he’s written. I look forward to the promised longer version since this initial effort is incomplete in retelling the historical context and other important details. 
 
I encourage barflies to visit the end of the previous thread to see my comment on the number of documents made available today related to the Summit and Ryabkov’s interview with TASS. The Declaration and Joint Statements contain verbiage that directly relate to Karaganov’s essay, which it must be noted was published on 30 April 2026 and just republished by RT today. I should also note that Glenn Diesen recently chatted with Karaganov about the content of his paper. Furthermore, Alastair Crooke makes the essay the topic of his current substack article

Posted by: karlof1 | May 20 2026 18:13 utc | 14

The Us/Israel are busy performing acts to divert attention from the real problem the empire has with the rival system…
 
Please look at our diversions so not too much attention is paid to the ongoing multipolar turn. 
 
Meanwhile the Chinese erect a 26 story building in just over 5 days. Modules factory assembled and mounted on the site. A 57 story house in 19 days. Normally such buildings take years to make using wet cement in large amounts
 
The entrepreneur previously only worked with air conditioning. But he wittnessed an earth quake killing maybe 70 people and figured out something.
 
I mention it as a way to examplify why China is rising.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | May 20 2026 18:13 utc | 15

The Zionist fascists really do have a perverted world view of their power to control events.  All their plans have now turned to dust as Christian would say……..
 
They live in their own bubble, in the Fuhrer bunkers in occupied Lod, cooking up absurd plans for ME domination, so they can continue to live the good life on lands stolen from murdered Palestinian citizens, land stolen between 1947 and 2026.
 
The Big Issue is that they continuously sell this crazed paranoia  to major US players including DJT, who actually believe their nonsense.  They just dumped $20M in to the Rep primary in Kentucky to defeat the anti Zionist Congressman Tom Massie.  AIPAC enforces absolute loyalty to the Greater Israel project…………totally alarming for all US citizens.

Posted by: tobias cole | May 20 2026 18:14 utc | 16

I meant 70000 casualties in the earthquake I mentioned in my previous comment

Posted by: petergrfstrm | May 20 2026 18:18 utc | 17

Israel is now a completely rogue state, as evidenced by the 1500 violations of the ceasefires in Gaza and Lebanon, in which churches and mosques and Catholic shrines, and villages, and civilian infrastructure have been specifically targeted.
 
From IDF troops desecrating Catholic churches and shrines, to the deliberate attacks on all civilian infrastructure and aid workers and paramedics and ambulance crews and firefighters and rescue crews and teachers and  journalists and priests and nuns and UN peacekeepers and food and med aid stations, even murdering citizens on scooters and bicycles, and or school children playing in school yards.
 
Is their no shame in their horrendous actions?  Thus they are rogue in every conceivable way……….

Posted by: tobias cole | May 20 2026 18:24 utc | 18

 It’s a PsyOp designed to sow FUD within those very few who read the NY Times in Iran.
Posted by: karlof1 | May 20 2026 17:13 utc | 2
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Izzies are squirting a lot of squid ink at the moment.
Posted by: ChatNPC | May 20 2026 17:18 utc | 3
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You boys is bad!

Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 20 2026 18:25 utc | 19

“Is there no shame”
@tobias cole | May 20 2026 18:24 utc | 18
The angloempire often rewards its proxies for going rogue. 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | May 20 2026 18:28 utc | 20

Ahmadinejad touts Holocaust denial as one of his major achievementsworldjewishcongress.org
 
He’s also the one who introduced the holocaust cartoon contests in Iran:

An earlier contest was held in 2006 with 1,200 submission from over 60 countries. The Palestine Museum in Tehran later opened an exhibition of 200 cartoons from this contest sponsored by then-Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. These contests occur in the context of official Iranian policy and practice of promoting Holocaust denial, as well as what the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum has called “genocidal language against Israel” from top Iranian leaders.
 
Source.

 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: persiflo | May 20 2026 18:32 utc | 21

I haven’t heard much about Ahmadinejad for a while, but I find it hard to believe that he is as unpopular as some people say. They’e probably just projecting their own views onto other people. He had a lot of popularity when he was in power because he raised the living standards of many low-income Iranians. The middle classes might not like those policies at all, and look down on him and question his intellect.
The idea that the USA and Israel could turn Ahmadinejad into their puppet is unbelievable too. If anything, this ‘leaked’ story is a sign that he might have a revival in popularity, now that so many senior leaders have been assassinated, and the USA and Israel could be trying to smear his name by portraying him as a possible traitor.

Posted by: Brendan | May 20 2026 18:33 utc | 22

It seems as though they did something like that in Syria….

Posted by: Chevrus | May 20 2026 18:34 utc | 23

Thanks for reminding the Bar about Ahmadinejad, b. I can recall that back when he was Prez, MoA headlined a story about him thumbing his nose at the perps whose drone Iran successfully wrested control from and crash-landed on an Irainian field. It was subsequently put on public display, enabling the Iranian Public to share a collective chuckle.
 
I find it hard to believe that he’s now Persona Non Grata in Iran. The story is obviously a product of  the Shitty Little Cuntry’s turds, thieves, freaks and misfits.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 20 2026 18:41 utc | 24

Ahmadinejad touts Holocaust denial as one of his major achievements
 
Posted by: persiflo | May 20 2026 18:32 utc | 21
 

 
While Ahmadinejad may have used the Holocaust to tout the Israelis use it to taunt.
 
History tells us how Israel’s taunt ends.
 

Posted by: too scents | May 20 2026 18:44 utc | 25

Posted by: Brendan | May 20, 2026 18:33 UTC | 22
Your point of view is worthy of much reflection. Thank you very much!

Posted by: Elber | May 20 2026 18:53 utc | 26

I bet this is misinformation sowed to divide the Iranian people and its leadership.
Posted by: KillerDoll
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yes 

Posted by: Exile | May 20 2026 18:53 utc | 27

Brendan | May 20 2026 18:33 utc | 22
(re Ahmadinejad and US/Israeli propaganda claims)
*** He had a lot of popularity when he was in power because he raised the living standards of many low-income Iranians.***
 
Isn’t that a bit  ….. socialist?  What an evil monster all virtuous Yanks must seek to destroy!
 
*** The middle classes might not like those policies at all, and look down on him and question his intellect.***
 
Despite him being highly educated — afaicr, more so than most top politicians.
Or was it more the Western epstein-liberal middle class — as usual told what to ‘think’ by Western mass-media — which was rather snobby about him? (recall having noticed that slant in media)
 
And isn’t his ancestry supposed to have been Iranian Jewish, prior to his parents turning Moslem?
Which would make him extra hated by the Israelis and their puppets. 
Remember the false English translation Western media did (and then got fake hysterical about) to a bit of one of his speeches in Farsi when he was PM of Iran …. 

Posted by: Cynic | May 20 2026 18:55 utc | 28

The Big Issue is that they continuously sell this crazed paranoia to major US players including DJT, who actually believe their nonsense. They just dumped $20M in to the Rep primary in Kentucky to defeat the anti Zionist Congressman Tom Massie. AIPAC enforces absolute loyalty to the Greater Israel project…………totally alarming for all US citizens.
 
Posted by: tobias cole | May 20 2026 18:14 utc | 16
Saw that.  Apparently the most ever spent on a primary.  And they wonder why everyone hates Israel?  Maybe quit buying foreign elections?  Maybe quit deliberately slaughtering women and little children?   Modest proposals, really.  And where are the foreign influence watchdogs that drummed Russia out of the US?  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 20 2026 19:02 utc | 29

Apparently calling the Nakba a Holocaust is Anri-Semric – srticle from 2016 on the Holocaust Cartoon Exhibition
(exverpt)…..
Shojaei and other organizers have said that their goal is not to prove or deny Holocaust but to discuss “the lack of freedom of expression in the West when it comes to the Holocaust.”
 
He said the Western media wants to “play the victim” and “present us as pro-Nazi” but, he says, “we are against any dictatorial regime,”  especially the “Zionist regime.” He has also asked rhetorically why Germany doesn’t give part of its territory to Jews. Shojaei has also quoted Iran’s first supreme leader, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, who said, “We hope one day this regime would disappear.” It is a sentiment that Iran’s current supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and former president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, along with other Islamic Republic officials, have repeated time and again.
 
The exhibition opened on May 14, the same day Israel proclaimed its independence in 1948.
 
Palestinians call the 14th Nakba Day or the “Day of Catastrophe.”…….
 
https://iranwire.com/en/society/61820/

Posted by: Exile | May 20 2026 19:05 utc | 30

It’s worth noting that the Western media focused a lot on the real or imagined celebrations on the Supreme Leader’s death. Looking at the wikipedia article on it, all the cities mentioned were either majority or with significant Kurdish populations, save one which had the largest Jewish proportion of any city in Iran. It certainly seemed like that was the plan and they’d been briefed. Infamously a BBC news report shortly after had the former UK ambassador to Iran in interview with him giving fairly normal answers until the host said either a call-in or they themselves had heard from Iranians they know nothing but support for the attacks. Prompting him to go off-script from annoyance with the narrative overreach of the BBC and say something like “I don’t know what kind of Iranian would support a military bombing campaign of their own country, a very strange Iranian, indeed.” There clearly was a note sent to the usual suspects in Western media outlets.
The problem seems to be absolutely no planning being made at all. As if the Kurds would spontaneously rise up without intense coordination or US ground forces to augment them seems a bit foolish. However, seen from the perspective of playing with house money with a depreciating asset (The US), the Israelis may have seen the attack as one which costs them nothing and which would allow their invasion of Lebanon or building of a wall on the “yellow line” (No doubt it’s significantly inward from the actual agreed “yellow line” in the farcical “cease-fire” agreement as the markers demarcating it already were.) in Gaza to fade from headlines or global attention. Since the US has effectively taken over the operation after a brief Israeli military involvement, it also means Israel itself fades from the headlines. A typical Israeli “heads I win, tails you lose” scenario. With Israel you always lose. Sooner or later they make you exhaust yourself for them or they outright stab you in the back when their calculus changes. 

Posted by: Altai | May 20 2026 19:12 utc | 31

Posted by: Cynic | May 20 2026 18:55 utc | 27
Ahmadinejad has indeed ticked all the boxes to be an enemy for Zionists. His meetings with Hasidic Jews in New York – who were against the very existence of Israel – only added to that status. He was subjected to about the same vilification as Ghaddafi, so he’s unlikely to be Washington’s choice as next leader of Iran.

Posted by: Brendan | May 20 2026 19:20 utc | 32

Seems to me if USrael couldn’t take Ahmadinejad with a missile strike, they hope now to have him eliminated by the Iranians by hawking a bullshit story claiming he was treasonous.
Posted by: malenkov | May 20 2026 17:24 utc | 5
 
That makes the most sense.

Posted by: wagelaborer | May 20 2026 19:22 utc | 33

Posted by: karlof1 | May 20 2026 18:13 utc | 14
 
 
This is the big issue right now!
 
And things are very serious. Either the attacks on Russia’s energy infrastructure stop or…
 
Many in Europe have already realized this!
 
They say the best solution is to stop Starmer, Kalas, Brussels, Zelensk, Merz… and all the rest!
 
This was the subject of Xi vs. Putin.
 
My personal opinion: if using the mushroom cloud is unavoidable, then let it be on that island… its name isn’t Honshu; it’s Perfida Albion!

Posted by: Elber | May 20 2026 19:25 utc | 34

Thanks b. My view: ‘By way of deception thou shalt do war’:
 
G7 Imperialist Governments Line Up Behind Trump’s Threats Against Iran as Global War Escalates
 
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/05/20/xwra-m20.html
 
“…The finance ministers and central bankers from Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the US insisted that ‘a swift return to free and safe transit through the Strait of Hormuz and a lasting resolution to the conflict are imperative’.
 
While not uttering a word about the unprovoked onslaught on Iran launched as negotiations were still ongoing on 28 February on the thousands of Iranian civilians slaughtered by indiscriminate American and Israeli bombing, the G7 finance ministers, displaying typical imperialist double-standards, hypocritically began their main communique with the statement, ‘We are united in our condemnation of Russia’s continued brutal war against Ukraine and escalating actions aimed at undermining collective efforts to broker peace.’
 
The glaring inconsistency of the imperialists’ moral outrage manages to consistently coincide with the global predatory interests they are pursuing. American imperialism is determined to regain the domination over Iran it lost following the 1979 revolution as part of a drive to consolidate its hegemony over the energy-rich Middle East by sidelining its rivals, above all China.
 
The European imperialists have endorsed this war because they hope to secure their own share of the spoils with a revival of the barbaric methods associated with colonialism and because they require continued US support for their war against Russia. The governments supposedly engaged in ‘collective efforts’ to ‘broker peace’ are in fact the chief protagonists in a rapidly escalating third world war. 
 
Trump travelled to Beijing last week to meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping in what was billed as a summit to stabilise relations between the world’s two largest economies. But behind the diplomatic niceties, the American financial oligarchy for which Trump speaks has no intention of permitting China’s steady economic rise at the expense of the US and is openly preparing for war with China.
 
Trump’s failure to reach any substantive agreement in Beijing is now being followed just days later with another round of threats to exterminate Iran, which not coincidentally is one of China’s most important oil suppliers…Imperialism – whether of the American or European variety – can offer no way out of this crisis other than by further escalating wars…”
 
 
 
 

Posted by: John Gilberts | May 20 2026 19:42 utc | 35

tobias cole@ 18
Yes indeed, and dont forget the blackmale of western leaders, the bribery of western leaders and the threats of western leaders careers being distroyed by israil and their mossad run lobby groups.
 
A thoughly bad lot indeed.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 20 2026 19:48 utc | 36

Maybe  Ahmadienjad was a Trojan horse.
He was arrested in 2018 for inciting unrest against the Government and later on he was barred from running for the election. One of his close aides was sentenced to 63 years in prison for Financial fraud. Someone like him who pretends to be a fierce enemy of Israel and Zionism and who is even denying the Holocaust would be the perfect traitor. There must  be a reason he was under House Arrest. 

Posted by: Lesjeuxsontfaits | May 20 2026 19:49 utc | 37

It doesn’t make sense to sift lies for truth. It is a hard to break habit, I catch myself doing it often.
It is a trap. 

Posted by: Rae | May 20 2026 19:51 utc | 38

Slow news day… nothing is happening.

Posted by: Patroklos | May 20 2026 19:53 utc | 39

We have regime change in israel
The black clad curly sideburns jews are more equal than regular jews, and by Jesus Oil-soaked Christ they’re not gonna risk their lives for a bunch of New York high brow land-thieves! 
So the more equal jews pulled their support for the Nut&Yahoo coalition, then the parliament voted to dissolve itself and now there must be new elections in between 3 to 5 months.
Send Nut&Yahoo to the dungeon! 
 
That Iranian President Imadinnerjacket dude is a real jew, not an Ashkenazi fake jew (father’s name was literally “Jewish cloth weaver” but he had it changed legally) coincidentally, Assad of Syria was a real jew, grandfather was famous for writing a letter to the League of Nations. And Libya’s Momar Qudaffie was also a real jew, and when they were killing him his sister was giving interviews in israel because they were both jews. (There is nothing the fake jews hate more, than an actual and real jew!)
The 10 year T-Bill is the bases for many interest rate calculations, and it’s interest rate is going up fast. That will cause increased borrowing costs, then bankruptcies, then larg scale counterparty risk being realized by large institutions, then the whole financial system will lock up and buying/selling with anything not handed over directly will come to an end, for a while.

Posted by: Hot Carl | May 20 2026 20:00 utc | 40

@Patroklos | May 20 2026 19:53 utc | 39
Though silently the multipolar turn continues while the diversion about Ahmadinejad takes up all attention.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | May 20 2026 20:02 utc | 41

“The ‘U.S. officials’ who are leaking these claims may well intend to blame Israel for convincing Trump to launch this war.”
 
I find that pretty unconvincing too. I can easily believe that Trump was conned by Israel, but I find it hard to believe that there are officials who both want a continued government career AND want to publicly blame Israel. But would Trump ever admit that he was taken for a mug? Seems unlikely.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 20 2026 20:04 utc | 42

The fact that it was a NYT post would lead anyone to ”doubt the veracity of the story”.
 
Whatever, whoever is a treasonous scum bags left in the folds of Iran has, or will be dead.
 
Surely there are worthier articles to analyze, other than some supposed USReali missed opportunity.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 20 2026 20:10 utc | 43

I see Scott Ritter is on many of today’s podcasts likely warning of the rising threat of a NATO-Russia war that could involve nukes, an assumption based on what he’s been saying on recent podcasts. 
 
Posted by: karlof1 | May 20 2026 18:13 utc | 14
 
 
 
Military Summary Channel twice a day documents the US/NATO/Ukrainian drones that attack Moscow, and that over fly Baltic States airspace.  The 90 billion euro seems to be used to launch a counteroffensive in Western Zaporizhzhia.  The counter offensive is an expected kind of thing for Europe to buy.  The drone attacks on Moscow and overflights of the Baltic States are harder for Russia to ignore.  I estimate that the number of drones launched into Russia as far east as Yekaterinburg as being around 15,000.  That is a lot of drones, and the successful hits are almost exclusively on energy transit facilities and oil refineries.  US targets, not Ukrainian targets. 
 
 
imho:  NATO is daring Russia to escalate this into a full scale war.  The odds are not zero that Russia escalates. 

Posted by: Woke American | May 20 2026 20:17 utc | 44

The 10 year T-Bill is the bases for many interest rate calculations, 
 
Posted by: Hot Carl | May 20 2026 20:00 utc | 40
 
 
 
Thanks for the reminder of why the 10 year rate is so important.  I kind of remembered it had extra value, but forgot why.  Thanks to Exile, I can easily keep up with all the rates as they all rise together.
 
 

Posted by: Woke American | May 20 2026 20:21 utc | 45

@Woke American | May 20 2026 20:17 utc | 44
I agree and I wonder if a nuclear war may be avoided.
The desperation in the west may be such that they even prefer a catastrophic continuation that they may mould the opinion with.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | May 20 2026 20:28 utc | 46

“Is there no shame”@tobias cole | May 20 2026 18:24 utc | 18The angloempire often rewards its proxies for going rogue. 
Posted by: petergrfstrm | May 20 2026 18:28 utc | 20

Of course it is not anything to do with the jews of the jew state, is it petergrfstrm? /sarc

Posted by: tucenz | May 20 2026 20:37 utc | 47

Trumpstein, ” I was mislead by the israelis, Hegseth and the generals. I hereby fire hegsethand the generals. Bibi and I are butt buddies so he stays.”

Posted by: Cycling Nut | May 20 2026 20:37 utc | 48

trying to fracture iranian political solidarity with rumors;

Posted by: UWDude | May 20 2026 20:38 utc | 49

Re: persiflo #21 … in context
 
Opportunity for the Mullahs after the Islamophobic hatred campaigns across the Western world. Source Wiesenthal Center:
 

In 2005 the Jyllands-Posten, a Danish newspaper, published 12 editorial cartoons that September. Most depicted Muhammad in the context of the newspaper’s intent to open a debate about Islam.

Protests including burning of Christian churches spread from Denmark to Western Europe and then globally. Denmark was boycotted. The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) and Arab League protested. There were also death threats.
 
In the minds of the mullahs, this cartoon controversy presented an opportunity to open a new front in their genocidal hatred of Israel by employing cartoons submitted around the world, highlighting those with Holocaust denying themes.
 

World Jewry, not Israel, lost six million people in the Holocaust. It should be the former’s commemoration, not Israel’s …
 
How the Israeli government is exploiting the tragedy of the Holocaust | MEE – 20 Jan. 2020 |

Posted by: Oui | May 20 2026 20:44 utc | 50

Posted by: duck n cover | May 20 2026 17:43 utc | 7
 

are they trying to make it sound like they have someone like VZ’s Darcy waiting in the rubble-filled wings?

 
Yes, let’s do to Ahmadinejad what we did to Delcy Rodriguez with such success among MoA readers.
Nobody remember now that she was chosen by Nicolas Maduro, is the constitutional successor, and is a longtime Chavista, they think Trump put her on power just because he say so. He is such a genius.
 
We just have to say Ahmadinejad our man, and that everything he is doing is on our orders, and they will swallow it, and do what who couldn’t do, take him down.
 
And while we’re at it, let’s add another layer of mud on Delcy Rodriguez, as she’s still leading her country; perhaps her compatriots will finally accept our narrative and get rid of her.
 
Right?

Posted by: Sebgo | May 20 2026 20:44 utc | 51

@tucenz | May 20 2026 20:37 utc | 47
You are not the only one here who is obsessed. Proxies often are given that role I mentioned. The purpose is to let the master know that the proxy is totally dependent of the master. The same holds for ISIS headchoppers and Ukraines nazis, The difference for you in your obsession is that you dont accept that Israel is just a proxy. No other proxy is delegated to handle the angloempires finances so that proxy certainly has some special features. Yet it is still a proxy. The vast number of americans repeating the the same fake message about Israel controlling the US are patriots in my view. That is they care for the crisis the US is in now and they let oil on the water for consolation I guess.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | May 20 2026 20:47 utc | 52

We all know mossads motto.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 20 2026 20:48 utc | 53

As I posted in the other Iran thread yesterday about Iran’s best prez Mamoud Ahmadinijad was harassed by Iranian authorities because he has been protesting corruption in the ruling elite.  His offsider who assisted with this copped a big lag for showing up the arseholes because Amadinejad was too well known and supported by working class Iranians.  I fully support Iran in this war but many of the types you mob have been lionizing in usual ‘he’s a good man fighting assholes’ completely miss the point that Iran like every other nation also suffers from rapaciously greedy low lifes’ manipulations for profit.
 
That is why Ali Khameni barred him from running in the last election.  Like many god botherers ol Khameni was an economic conservative whereas Amadinejad is the nearest thing to a socialist permitted since the revolution where after defeating government forces the god botherers turned on the allies who had fought with them, the left.
amerika plus the entity are lying simply because they want to cause internal dissension in Iran doh!  If he was really a traitor there is no way they would give him up as they’d be hoping to still use him, they have fuck all else who commands respect in Iran, but he’s not a traitor as I’m sure he’s screaming in agony right now.
 
Rule #1 you don’t have to like the people running a country to support it resisting external interference especially when coming from the empire.  Iran is on the right side on many things now but unfortunately the current administration is neolib just like most nations in this world eg Russia, where the government uses decidedly conservative economics.
 

Posted by: a_user | May 20 2026 20:54 utc | 54

Posted by: Sebgo | May 20 2026 20:44 utc | 51
 
Sorry for the typos.
Web of lies have this effect on me.

Posted by: Sebgo | May 20 2026 20:55 utc | 55

Slow news day… nothing is happening.
Posted by: Patroklos | May 20 2026 19:53 utc | 39
=====
 
 
Patroklos, you woke up so early or you live in Western Australia. Good morning to you!
 
 
Nothing’s happening… The hot topic right now is 14@Karlof or 44@Woke American. The world is holding its breath… 
 
 
There are so many possible scenarios. So many that nobody here can propose a solution different from Sergey Karaganov’s. What would you do if the Ship’s Wheel was in your hands?
 

Posted by: Elber | May 20 2026 21:05 utc | 56

The Cradle, Ep 220: ‘PR Disaster: Ben Gvir Abuses Flotilla Activists On-Camera’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@thecradlemedia
 
“Welcome to Israel’: Global outrage over Ben Gvir’s abuse of Gaza Flotilla activists.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | May 20 2026 21:05 utc | 57

Bloody hell !
See my  comment @ 53 .
 
I made that only 20  minutes ago.
 
And just now all my bookmarks just got deleted /wiped, all 100 gone just like that.
 
Basterds.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 20 2026 21:08 utc | 58

Posted by: a_user | May 20 2026 20:54 utc | 54
 
The mere fact that you try to interpret the political situation in Iran through the Western lens of liberals, neoliberals, conservatives, and neoconservatives demonstrates how out of touch you are with the realities of countries outside the “golden billion.”
 
No presidential candidate in Iran can be allowed to complete and to implement a policy that hasn’t been approved by the Supreme Leader and his religious council, regardless of how “progressive” that policy may seem to some.
 
It’s as simple as that.
 
As for Amadinejad, of course, there are power struggles and money battles, as elsewhere.
But the Trump-like narratives of the “lone hero” who will “drain the swamp” are just propaganda, usually based on lies.
 
That said, Netanyahou want the head of Amadinejad. And as they couldn’t get him with bombs, they are trying another weapon.
They even made a “kill-list”, shared with Trump.

Posted by: Sebgo | May 20 2026 21:12 utc | 59

Posted by: Sebgo | May 20 2026 21:12 utc | 59
 
Errata :
No presidential candidate in Iran can’t be allowed to compete and to implement a policy that hasn’t been approved by the Supreme Leader and his religious council, regardless of how “progressive” that policy may seem to some.

Posted by: Sebgo | May 20 2026 21:17 utc | 60

A bit Off Topic but…
I wonder if Xi had a little chuckle with Putin about how Jewed-up the “Christian” West seems to be?
 
I mean if you’re gullible enough to believe all the Jewish balderdash and drivel in the Holy Bible, what other Fairy Tales can sound convincing to Christians?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 20 2026 21:17 utc | 61

Ahmadinejad meets anti-Zionist Jews

Posted by: Siddhartha | May 20 2026 21:20 utc | 62

Anyone who remembers the presidency of ‘Mad Jad’ will immediately understand how misbegotten any plan to put him into a position of power as an ally of Israel and the west was, if such a plan ever existed

Posted by: Arthur Foxake | May 20 2026 21:20 utc | 63

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 20 2026 21:17 utc | 61
 

what other Fairy Tales can sound convincing to Christians?

 
Vladimir Poutine is a Christian.
 
Please don’t turn this existential struggle for the world into a shitty tiny religious war.

Posted by: Sebgo | May 20 2026 21:20 utc | 64

Is anyone actually in charge? Trump? Netanyahu? Soros?

Israeli Knesset passes preliminary vote to dissolve itself, setting the stage for early elections

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/politics/artc-israeli-knesset-passes-preliminary-vote-to-dissolve-itself-setting-the-stage-for-early-elections
 
Possibly setting the stage for the complete dissolution of the apartheid squatter state.
 
Wonder how the election timetable will interact with the US mid-term election timetable?
 
It’ll be mildly interesting to see how Netanyahu keeps himself out of court afterwards.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 20 2026 21:24 utc | 65

It’ll be mildly interesting to see how Netanyahu keeps himself out of court afterwards.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 20 2026 21:24 utc | 65

 
Perhaps so. but getting rid of Netanyahu is no more going to cure what sickens Israel than getting rid of Trump will make everything unicorns and rainbows in the US.
 
Two gravely unwell and unhappy societies (as are all that ape them).

Posted by: ChatNPC | May 20 2026 21:36 utc | 66

Posted by: Lesjeuxsontfaits | May 20 2026 19:49 utc | 37
 
It’s all smoke and mirrors, as usual, and even more idiotic than usual.
 
Anyone who knows how power is structured in Iran, how one gains access to it, and who truly holds the authority knows it’s all lies.
 
Strategic guidance is provided by the Supreme Leader on a religious basis; he is chosen from among religious figures.
 
The president is elected but is not free to do as he pleases.
For Ahmadinejad to be a presidential candidate and be elected, he would have had to present a program accepted by the religious establishment, which he failed to do.
 
If he does so but changes his political program during his term, he will be removed from office by the Supreme Council.
 
And he cannot be chosen or proclaim himself Supreme Leader because he is not a religious figure.
 
Unless there is a coup and a complete regime change, there is no combination that can bring him or anyone else to power to implement policies that would satisfy the US or Israel. Period.

Posted by: Sebgo | May 20 2026 21:40 utc | 67

Fascinating tale, certainly well in the realm of ycnmiu, especially the bit where they bomb his house to free him, but he gets injured…no kidding ! Anyway, thing is I thought it was the ex Shah’s lad who was meant to take over. Whatever happened to that narrative ? I distinctly remember people calling him Your Highness or some such twaddle. Guess he’s been Guido’d then.

Posted by: Pyewacket | May 20 2026 21:45 utc | 68

The pure conciet and arrogance of these deplorably stupid people beggers belief. Everyone with any experience tells the Christian Nationalist’s and Zionist’s DON’T press the red button and what do they do? Are we living through a Mel Brook’s film?

Posted by: Alana | May 20 2026 21:48 utc | 69

This whole story in the NYT is so obviously bunkum. Theyre attempting to sew division amongst the iranian leadership. 

Posted by: HERMIUS | May 20 2026 21:51 utc | 70

Perhaps so. but getting rid of Netanyahu is no more going to cure what sickens Israel

Posted by: ChatNPC | May 20 2026 21:36 utc | 66
 
Yeah, I was a bit too vague in my earlier post, as I was just typing out loud my initial thoughts.
 
More specifically, it will be interesting to see how the Western MSM handle the prospect of Netty actually having to go to court, after years of lionising him, hanging on his every word as if he was reading from tablets of stone…
 
We could even be treated to the spectacle of the Zionist elites throwing him overboard, because his belligerence and impatience has put them and their schemes in jeopardy.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 20 2026 21:59 utc | 71

There was footage of Ahmadinejad seemingly in public posted on the 4th of March, after the Israeli claims to have killed him on the first day of the war. Note I am not in a position to attempt to technically verify if it is what is claimed, however the behaviours do seem to fit with the situation around that time and are suggestive of a close shave (or the belief of one) at the very least: Ahmadinejad seems somewhat delicate and is being carefully handled; the people who greet him do so as if they are glad he’s alive.
 
My initial response to the NYT story was that it seems like low grade nonsense, whether as a psy-op against Iran or, more likely, for domestic consumption and the first crumbs of a wrong path they are laying for future “historians” to get lost down (a bit like the Ukrainian yacht story around the Nordstream sabotage).
 
But then I also wonder if it actually was some bullshit “plan” they (Intel/Israelis) came up with just for Tump, that, with Venezuela under his belt, they knew he would go for and that was always going to be “screwed-up”? Could this, walk of shame almost, by Trump on the 2nd of March also be hinting at something along these lines?
 

Posted by: bea | May 20 2026 22:02 utc | 72

Remember : “Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi died in a helicopter crash on May 19, 2024, along with seven others, while traveling in bad weather near the Azerbaijan border.
 
The crash occurred during a trip to inaugurate a dam project, and all aboard were confirmed dead.”

 
Always thought this ^ was suspicious.

Now I notice the date May 19.   
Well, now that I know what I know about “significant” dates in the Jewish [not Gregorian] calendar.………

Suspicion just became super suspicion.
 
Doubt the school girl murdering bastards had a plan for Ahmadinejad,  but they DID have a plan to place the former Shah’s son on the thrown.
He was getting a lot of mockslopper oxygen in the first 72 hours, then the surprise attack-war crimes failed, and he’s since been dumped from the headlines.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 20 2026 22:24 utc | 73

Posted by: HERMIUS | May 20 2026 21:51 utc | 70
 
You’re right, it’s unbelievable.
 
It’s just as unbelievable as saying that Delcy Rodriguez, a longtime Chavista chosen by Nicolás Maduro to be his vice president and the architect of the reforms to the Chavez oil laws, is a “traitor” who was waiting behind the scenes for Trump to install her after a regime change.
 
The fact that Maduro’s entire government and National Assembly are still in place doesn’t change anything in the minds of our contemporaries : If Trump said Rodriguez is his puppet, it must be true, according to them.
 
I remind everyone that Trump even tried to say that Mojtaba Khamenei, the son of the leader he assassinated along with almost his entire family, including Mojtaba’s pregnant wife, was also “his choice” to lead Iran, and that he had gifted him several oil tankers.
 
Yet, this story in Venezuela seems to be gaining traction and is repeated daily, even here on MoA.
 
If we put ourselves in Trump and Netanyahu’s shoes, there’s no reason not to try the same thing again with Ahmadinejad in Iran, since people are so gullible.
 
Taking down an enemy without firing a shot, just with lies and smears. And willing echo chambers on every forum.

Posted by: Sebgo | May 20 2026 22:34 utc | 74

Every outlet gave the obligatory “Chinese officially denies”, and some also included a denial from Trump.
 
But then every one continued on to dismiss the categorical denials as “well, they would say that, wouldn’t they”.
 
Mocksloppers continued to use long minutes to discuss the unsourced gossip girl slop.
 
By sheer weight of sloppers slurping the gossip, mockingbird media alchemy turned fabricated fiction into fact.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 20 2026 22:36 utc | 75

I remember Ahmadinejad coming to the UN, and unless I have an elderly conflation of memories, it seems to me that he actually visited my alma mater to give a speech – (that could well have been just a dream as I often get my dreams and memories mixed up these days).  He struck me as extremely well meant and generous in his wishes for better relations during difficult times.  

Posted by: juliania | May 20 2026 22:50 utc | 76

“Then, the Israeli plan foresaw a combination….”
 
Israel has been consulting with underwear gnomes….

Posted by: Newbie | May 20 2026 22:56 utc | 77

re Sebgo | May 20 2026 21:40 utc | 67 who asserts that iran is some type of magical place where normal behaviour ie poor don’t like being poor, does not apply in Iran.
So stupid when we consider Iran’s history where leftists & rightists fought each other for more than a century.  But sebgo wouldn’t know that cos he like most on this board came to Iran by way of hatred instead of seeing the humans there as being in every way similar to the behaviour of other humans. If  I didn’t put in that Ali Khameni was a quasi fascist who experimented with leftism in the early part of the 21st century but found that raised the ire of his backers so he barred Ahmadinejad from running for a 3rd time; an election that he would have won easily because like colonel Ghadaffi, Prez Ahmadinejad came up with the correct mixture of Islam & socialism to quiet the clerics but appeal to the people.
 
It was also Ahmadinejad who brought anti-zionism to the fore in Iranian society when immediately after the revolution ayotollah Khomeni was close to the zionist entity.  If I remember correctly the zionists backed Iran in the war when everyone else supported Iraq, that is USSR & amerika.
 
That is what makes the current zionist claim so ridiculous.  Mahmoud knew he wasn’t gonna be approved for the last election just as he failed to get Ali Khameni’s approval in every election since they refused to allow him a 3rd term, yet he persevered anyway – not to annoy the ruling elite but to let the working class know they still fight for them unlike the faux left mek.
 
I notice that no one round here ever notices that current Iranian hero speaker Galibaf is an extremely wealthy man since he was permitted to mix government with private business.  Of course for idiots Iran is magical a land where no one steals while in power and everyone is content.  Get over your prejudices sebgo and understand that humans come in many varieties everywhere they are found on this old rock.  No place is full of 100% wonderful & honest humans and that it is not a prerequisite to laud it up over others because he is so pure and wonderful, all that is required is an abhorrence of those who seek to kill others for greed eg the orange creep.
Iran has the same economic issues as everywhere else if you cannot accept that then I doubt you’ve ever spent time wandering through the bazaars that make Iran so typical an example of all types of humanity.

Posted by: a_user | May 20 2026 22:56 utc | 78

Sebgo | May 20 2026 22:34 utc | 74
I take your point re Delcy in Venezuela.
 
Some of us here a a few decades older than you and have seen color revolutions and *regime “change” ops in many dozens of countries.
 
I in high school when The Old Bastards did a bloodless coop in my own country. It took me decades to understand what had *actually* happened as opposed to what I believed happened …. Beliefs forged in a foundry of Murdock and Fairfax owned media.
 
Trump is obviously comprehensively unreliable as a source. His lies, fictions, fantastic fabrications all divert and distract.
 
And then, (maybe because he himself can’t keep track of his bullshit, because he talks and Truths 18-hrs a day, he sometimes blurts the most astonishing factual § truth §.
 
For many of us, Venezuela looks like a white ant op.
Sure, Madero appointed her, but so what.
 
In the Australian coop Whitlam appointed Kerr Governor General.
Kerr was an Old Bastard, and did what the Old Bastards wanted.
 
That the U$ now owns Venezuela, by simply removing Madero looks like a regime change op, and as Delcy isn’t dead, or deposed, lends suspicion that she betrayed Madero (and Venezuela).
 
 
——
 
Immediately after the start of the sloSMO new names rushed to post here that there simply could not be Nazis in Ukraine, because Zelensky was jewish.
Old hands here knew Zelensky’s patron, Kolomoiskyy had in fact funded the nazis that were integral to the post Maidan terrorism against citizens in Donetsk and Luhansk …..
 
And then, Zelensky sold out Kolomoiskyy to the CIA-FBI.
 
I don’t believe many bible stories, but Judas can be found everywhere. Even in your own family.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 20 2026 22:56 utc | 79

On the story – cock an’ bull – expect more of these – loads of noise in a vain attempt to cover up a prize cock-up of a move ….
 
8 minutes of El. Worth it … fasten seat belt
 
USA Economy DISASTER Worst In 18 Years! Bond Yields Hit 5.2%
 
 

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 20 2026 23:03 utc | 80

Actually the NYT article  is not quite as silly as suggested if the plan was to sow chaos and cause the disintegration of Iran.
Chaos step 1: Decapitate the leadership and have all parties running round like headless chooks.  Did not work. I think the Iranians expected it.
 
Chaos step 2. Yes we know about the Kurds. Trump gave them rifles but they did not use them Ha!  If things had really heated up then I imagine the Kurds would have used their riffles to aim for independence. Obviously the Iranian authorities were aware of the danger and bombed known US supported bases very early on. The plan was real though.
 
Chaos step 3: The internal insurrection was also very real.  Apparently the plan was to decapitate the leadership, then stir civil unrest just before Persian New Year. Apparently (I read this on a link from this site but cannot find it now) the Fire Festival Chaharshanbe Suri has become a it of a focus  for anti regime Iranians, which makes lots of sense because being a pre Islamic festival associated with the ancient Persian religion (Zoroastrianism) it is precisely the kind of festival young Iranian nationalists but anti mullah would flock to. I can imagine that if I had been a young non religious Iranian I would have been there too.  So third part of plan was provoke  chaos and install a “revolutionary” leader two weeks after the decapitation.
 
Chaos step 4: This was already in place ie use infiltrators to stir up trouble. They might have been allied with those of Step 3 but also different as many would be paid and many would be Jewish. The failed June 2025 attack more or less exposed this mob and the internet barriers more or less blocked them
 
Chaos step 5: Do not forget Baby Shah.  He would have been a focus point for insurrection if the decapitation step one had worked. He probably would have been the appointed leader of the Step 4 insurgents but NOT I think the Step 3 mob.
 
Chaos step 6: There is BOUND to have been a paid traitorous section of the military. There always is. No idea who but someone.  The head of security who replaces Solomenei has already been fingered, but i have no idea about the validity of the undermining. It matters little because there will certainly have been someone waiting in the wings. (It is probably true of EVERY world military). The dream would be someone from the Araic regions willing to be besties with the UAE
 
Chaos step 7: Stir up the Baluchis. This was already on going. it would affect Pakistan too and perhaps weaken China.
 
Chaos step 8 :Separation pressure in the largely Arab areas along the Gulf near oil rich provinces. There is SURE to have been a paid leader of some sort of separatist group.
 
Chaos step 9: Find one of the “reformers” in or near the current government to lead a rebel faction to outs the control of the IRG and Mullahs. Might even have been the current President Perezekian
 
Chaos step 10: FINALLY back to Ahmenijad.  Here is a guy who was the president and popular with the working class. Stir him up. promise him something that suits his genuine world view ie something a bit socialist. 
 
So the Israeli Plan probably looked like this
 

  1. Decapitate the Mullahs and the IRG
  2. Stir up separatatist movements in Baluchistan, Kurdish aras and possibly also Azeris and Arabs and turkmen
  3. Support covertly 3-5 potential leaders of sub fractions who would fight one another.  a) The Shah for the old Guard of formerly wealthy elites,  b) some good looking “influencer as a CIA puppet, who might rally the young professional western types, c) Amenijad to lead the working class (fighting the first two) d) a moderate well known leader, e) Some one from the nationalistic, idealistic fire festival mob, who could e easily turned west, f) a military leader of some kind, who would probably become the ruler of a much smaller state after the spin off of all the regional mobs.

 
A complex plan but hey it worked in Yugoslavia.

Posted by: watcher | May 20 2026 23:05 utc | 81

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 20 2026 22:56 utc | 79
 
Thank you for your reply.
 
Yes, there are “Judas” everywhere.
I will welcome any fact about what can be considered a betrayal from the Venezuelan leadership, not just the word of a Trump or the fact they have to negotiate and concede things to avoid seeing their country bombeb to the stone age while the cheerleaders of “resistance” eat popcorn.
 

Some of us here a a few decades older than you 

 
This one is funny. How old do you think I am ?
I lived through 39 attempted coups and regime change of which 7 were succeful in my home country, and had 12 heads of states.
I was following the US embassy hostage crisis, remotely but from the start to the end.
 
I am not young nor naive. But I don’t like false accusations, smears and lies.

Posted by: Sebgo | May 20 2026 23:23 utc | 82

Probably something like that, seen in all human organisations :

  • Management : “We are stuck! It’s all your fault! Do something or you’re fired!”
  • Workers : (Stupid plan they know is stupid and has zero percent chance of success) Look at our marvellous plan! And we are doing something!

Posted by: Asian Frog | May 20 2026 23:27 utc | 83

I see Scott Ritter is on many of today’s podcasts likely warning of the rising threat of a NATO-Russia war that could involve nukes, an assumption based on what he’s been saying on recent podcasts.  Posted by: karlof1 | May 20 2026 18:13 utc | 14
——————————————————————————————
The US nukes stored in NATO EU country are dumb bombs. Authorization for their use resides in the US and those guys did not surrender those nuclear codes to DJT when a few C-130s had a kissing contest.
 
France has control over its own nukes and Israel is not in NATO.
 
NATO trying to provoke Russia I am willing to believe. Russkies likely not buying it. They might get a little more assertive in Ukraine, depending on what happens to Z. They definitely take out NATO in Ukraine when they see a chance.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 20 2026 23:27 utc | 84

Thank b, the story indeed raises questions. 
 
I suspect to keep Rouhani safe. Rouhani was supported by Rafsanjani, another moderate. 
 
Rafsanjani’s family accused the Government of assassinating him when he died of a heart attack. 
 
Both were pretty wealthy property owners. 

Posted by: Suresh | May 20 2026 23:27 utc | 85

The whole “he was Jewish” thing needs to be better thought out.
 
It is probable that Adolph Hitler was indeed partly Jewish. I was told this by my father  when I was a young child who explained that sometimes people turn on their own kind more viciously because they are embarrassed. What he did NOT explain but probably knew, because I was very young and he was prudish on all such matters, was that Hitler’s father illegitimate and was half Jewish via the Jewish man his mother had worked for.

Posted by: watcher | May 20 2026 23:31 utc | 86

Posted by: a_user | May 20 2026 22:56 utc | 78
 
Yes, isn’t that right?
 
You don’t know someone, but when you have no arguments, you accuse them of liking X and hating Y, which would explain their analysis of the facts.
 
It’s so easy.
 
Note: Israel has never supported Iran since the fall of the Shah in 1979, and certainly not during the war of aggression by Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.
You’re making it up.

Posted by: Sebgo | May 20 2026 23:32 utc | 87

My, my.
 
My “African” cousin has plenty to say.
 
Funny how all that collection of words is never about Africa, “home” or even the dreadful situation closest to “home”.
 
Funny as in not in “Ha Ha” kinda funny. 
 
I can only assume a “trigger” word activated our resident Manchurian Candidate.

Posted by: Suresh | May 20 2026 23:53 utc | 88

Posted by: Sebgo | May 20 2026 23:32 utc | 87

Israel has never supported Iran since the fall of the Shah in 1979, and certainly not during the war of aggression by Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.

In this age, anything I remember or link could be fake news. That said: I’ve read that Israel was one of the few countries to support Iran with weapons during the 1980-1988 war. The reason I’ve seen is utilitarian: Saddam’s Iraq was seen as the greater threat to Israel. Also, the support is about clandestine weapon sales (North Korea did that too), so profit will have been a motive as well.
 
Here’s a 2024 Jerusalem Post article about this: https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-806039

Posted by: Konami | May 20 2026 23:53 utc | 89

Posted by: watcher | May 20 2026 23:05 utc | 81
 
What was the size and the population of Yugoslavia?
 
Frankly, some things are hard to hear when you’re not entangled in the Western narrative of lies.
 
Perhaps it’s because I don’t live in the West, but for example, it grates on my ears to hear talk of a “ground operation” in Iran.
 
And they cite the forces supposedly available to the Americans: amphibious special forces, the Kurds, and others.
 
It’s as if they think we’re all children.
Iran has over 92 million inhabitants, a strong army that defeated Saddam Hussein and his 800,000 men, and recently the combined air and naval power of the US and Israel.
 
How many amphibious forces are available?
How many Kurdish fighters are there ?
None of these groups exceeds 5,000 men.
 
This single question and its answer reveal the absurdity of all this commotion and the so-called plans of Trump and Netanyahu.
 
It’s a charade to intimidate Iran and make the American and Israeli public (and others) believe they are still strong and powerful, and above all, that they haven’t lost the war.
When in fact they have.

Posted by: Sebgo | May 20 2026 23:55 utc | 90

Posted by: Suresh | May 20 2026 23:53 utc | 88
 
Fuck off troll.
And take your children and dirty games with you.

Posted by: Sebgo | May 20 2026 23:57 utc | 91

Too much good commentary to keep up with here but thank you to all who keep good conversation going. I had MOA and the Saker in my regular viewing a bit before the SMU.
I’ve always wondered if a first nuclear use — e.g. India Pakistan– was more likely to have an escalatory or prophylactic effect on a shocked world. Given the geopolitical numbness of today’s “citizens” any optimism has faded to new lows, but I’d like to hear your best projections.
Keeping a foot in another hemisphere has been my logical response for decades, being of the generation who watched Strangelove and On The Beach in our formative years. 

Posted by: Bagration | May 21 2026 0:06 utc | 92

I on the other hand immediately thought that this idea was plausible. 
 
Why?
 
Because it’s so stupid that it completely fits the Trump-nazinyahu model of operations. 
 

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | May 21 2026 0:10 utc | 93

Neil Young – Powderfinger. You should all listen to this.
 
Powderfinger (2016 Remaster)

Posted by: Siddhartha | May 21 2026 0:11 utc | 94

@Sebgo 91
 
I don’t think Suresh is a troll.
 
He’s just extremely stupid and completely captivated by his membership of the Putin cult.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | May 21 2026 0:12 utc | 95

Martyanov correctly dismisses Karagonov as a nobody blowing his own trumpet.
 
Putin shared the words of a Russian WWIi veteran about as long as China and Russia worked together WWIII will be prevented. Xi wished him long life.
 
So, Delcy can’t be a traitor because Maduro selected her.
 
Interesting, anyone care to count how many African leaders were murdered by their right hand man?
 
Anyone?

Posted by: Suresh | May 21 2026 0:12 utc | 96

I could see them putting Ahmadinejad into power for the express purpose of promptly murdering him. 
He has been so demonized in the West that it would be a great PR coup for the US in general and for Trump in particular. No other living Iranian would be 1/10 as good for that purpose. He has real name/face recognition. 
The real plan would have to involve arming and supporting Kurds, ethnic Azerbaijanis and any other disgruntled minorities etc. Seems Iran was reasonably on top of those schemes. 

Posted by: BillB | May 21 2026 0:16 utc | 97

Posted by: Suresh | May 21 2026 0:12 utc | 95

Delcy can’t be a traitor because Maduro selected her.

Caesar would like to have a word with you.

Posted by: Konami | May 21 2026 0:19 utc | 98

“Martyanov correctly dismisses Karagonov as a nobody blowing his own trumpet.”

 
[Posted by: Suresh | May 21 2026 0:12 utc | 95]
 
In September 2022 Martyanov also claimed that the uncoordinated Russian rout at Izyum and Kupyansk was a brilliant trap and that there would be an imminent Russian  pincer counterattack.
 
I’m still waiting for that imminent pincer counterattack.
 
When that “imminent counterattack” never happened,  Martyanov claimed that Russia gave up territory “it did not feel like holding on to” and could “easily take back” if necessary. 
 
4 years later Russian  soldiers are bleeding and dying to take back Kupyansk and his on to what they’ve  clawed back. 
 
When Sladkov, Wargonzo etc – the voenkors with the guts to risk their lives at the frontline – point out Russian deficiencies, Martyanov (who wouldn’t dare come within 100 km of the front) calls them “grifters” and “lowlifes”. When they were summoned to a private meeting with Putin he claimed,  without evidence of course, that they were being told off. What actually happened: Putin listened to their reports of the situation, said “I didn’t know that”, and made notes. Some of those problems seem to have been set least partly addressed subsequently. 
 
In other words, Martyanov has about as much credibility as you. 
 

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | May 21 2026 0:21 utc | 99

“The ‘U.S. officials’ who are leaking these claims may well intend to blame Israel for convincing Trump to launch this war.
That is another aspect I find hard to buy.” 
 
So we don’t know, and cannot concluded anything from this innuendo, and as usual it is being used for some reason or another that suits certain vested USrael interests. Once again American media wins the day for getting all the attention over something that cannot be resolved because the real reasons for anything are always hidden and supplanted with phony lies for the protection of specific individuals or spread blame on others. 
 
I would prefer to hear about the rest of the world which always gets second place in the news compared to the USA and Israel and their permanent promulgation of lies. 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | May 21 2026 0:24 utc | 100