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May 31, 2026
Ukraine Open Thread 2026-113
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq4PaJfod4w&t=6339s Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 1 2026 16:25 utc | 101 @Steven Starr | Jun 1 2026 16:09 utc | 97 Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 1 2026 17:07 utc | 102 All RF tankers should be, if all possible, escorted by RF navy frigates, destroyers or CPV’s. Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 1 2026 17:50 utc | 103 Posted by: Steven Starr | Jun 1 2026 16:09 utc | 97 “Russian Early Warning satellites have holes in their coverage” Posted by: ed4 | Jun 1 2026 18:42 utc | 104 Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Jun 1 2026 4:19 utc | 59 Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Jun 1 2026 18:57 utc | 105 So this is what protestors in NY USA, the reservoir of fighting men and backbone of NATO, look like: Posted by: frithguild | Jun 1 2026 20:50 utc | 106 Quite a long article, discussing the situation in Ukraine for veterans, the potential for organised criminal exploitation and Ukraine’s reliance on external financial aid to remain (somewhat) functional: https://regionews.ua/ukr/articles/1780306804-zbroya-bidnist-boyoviy-dosvid-chomu-tema-zlochinnosti-stane-aktualnoyu-dlya-ukrayini
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Proxies can get expensive, like a high-maintenance trophy wife. Things can spiral out of control and cause damaging blowback when the jilting is exposed. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 1 2026 21:39 utc | 107
I was thinking somewhere along those lines – at no point did I think that an impoverished Europe would be conducive to a pan-Eurasian security architecture, nor did I think Russia did collective punishment like the US and Israel do on the Palestinians, Cuba, etc.. Posted by: joey_n | Jun 1 2026 23:40 utc | 108 It seems that Russia has just startet a massive drone and missile attack on Kiew and other Ukraineian Cities.. Posted by: Johann Siegfried von Oberndorf | Jun 2 2026 0:00 utc | 109 Bloomberg is reporting that bank/finance officials told Putin that Russia can’t afford the war anymore Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 2 2026 0:47 utc | 110 Eighthman | Jun 2 2026 0:47 utc | 110 Ritter is frequently on the brink of “Russia should” and “Russia must” but most often he stays away from that. Posted by: Gerhardt G. | Jun 2 2026 1:09 utc | 112 @ Gerhardt G. | Jun 2 2026 1:09 utc | 112 Posted by: malenkov | Jun 2 2026 1:14 utc | 113 Putin held a meeting on measures to support the victims and the investigation of the terrorist attack in Starobilsk, which some barflies might want to know about. I’m not at all surprised by Putin’s personal concern and involvement as it’s SOP for him, something few are aware of. The reports are extensive as is support for the victims, families and community the extent of which will surprise many. When asked if the college should be preserved and rebuilt, Lugansk’s leader Leonid Pasechnik said the following:
9razyna | Jun 1 2026 12:40 utc | 79 Posted by: fanto | Jun 2 2026 2:13 utc | 115 @tobias cole | Jun 1 2026 17:50 utc | 103 Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 2 2026 2:52 utc | 116 *** Got a soft spot for C-14 and Aidar style paramilitary formations in the streets? ** Posted by: frithguild | Jun 2 2026 3:35 utc | 117 @frithguild | Jun 2 2026 3:35 utc | 117 Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 2 2026 4:28 utc | 118 Western societies are being done in by apathy. If more people’d lift their woke asses off the couch, get out there, reflect on their station, and discuss things among themselves, a way forward might emerge eventually. Not holding my breath. Posted by: fanto | Jun 2 2026 5:40 utc | 119 @English Outsider | Jun 1 2026 16:05 utc | 96 Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 2 2026 6:13 utc | 120 Whilst it warms my heart and I applaud loudly the current strikes on Kiev and everywhere, let us all be honest … it won’t affect the results on the front one little bit nor the proliferation of drones flying into Russia. Like any smart adversary, they have diversified the manufacturer and import and launching of drones such that knocking out even 20% of the supply will make little difference to the hundreds flying into Russia every day. In my opinion weapons on weapons is not going to finish this war in the way that Russia hopes. No amount of flying gunpowder can get rid of the Nazi Kievan regime. Posted by: Gerhardt G. | Jun 2 2026 6:46 utc | 121 When will you idiots see that bagels putin and Zelensky just keep killing white Slavs while giving you a theater that solves nothing. While Israel can kill world leaders in a matter of days , Jew Putin made Jew Zelensky billionaire. Posted by: Petr | Jun 2 2026 7:35 utc | 122 I have not been able to keep up with the situation on the ground lately, but there are A LOT of articles in main stream media that suggests Ukraine will be having a parade in Moscow soon… which actually tells me that Ukronazis are getting their asses pounded and that some major cities are about to get taken – am I correct? Posted by: Jzo | Jun 2 2026 8:49 utc | 123 Jzo | Jun 2 2026 8:49 utc | 124 Posted by: rk | Jun 2 2026 9:44 utc | 124 Strange, isn’t it, how Russia is supposedly tottering under the twin blows of overwhelming Ukrainian drone strikes and Putin’s inept leadership, yet it is the Kiev Metro that looks like a homelessness camp:
https://news-pravda.com/world/2026/06/02/2345075.html Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 2 2026 10:52 utc | 125 Last night (local time), another air-raid hit 404. Mostly production and logistic, few “command posts”. Interception rate feels like declining or there are more videos of actual impacts available nowadays , who knows ? Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 2 2026 11:19 utc | 126
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 2 2026 11:23 utc | 127 The list of targets hit above indicates Moscow is figuring war will last at least through winter 26/27 Posted by: Exile | Jun 2 2026 11:49 utc | 128 @Jzo | Jun 2 2026 8:49 utc | 124 Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 2 2026 12:59 utc | 129 The Fire Point “Flamingo” missile looks like a V1? Posted by: The Far Side | Jun 2 2026 13:24 utc | 130 #Jzo 124 Posted by: Lesjeuxsontfaits | Jun 2 2026 14:23 utc | 131 Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 2 2026 12:59 utc | 130 Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 2 2026 14:25 utc | 132 A couple of video clips of resistance to the TCC: https://t.me/legitimniy/22515 plus photos of some menacing-looking new “recruitment” vehicles.
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https://life.pravda.com.ua/society/kiyani-zaklikali-zaboroniti-nameti-v-metro-peticiya-315315/
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Seeing various photos it looks like a disaster waiting to happen. It will only take someone being careless with a flame or other heat source, there’s a lot of flammable material, fanned by air currents through tunnels and shafts and a repeat of the 1987 Kings Cross fire in London could easily occur. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 2 2026 15:58 utc | 138 The Irony of seeing a (unelected) president of Banderistan furious at people living in some caves is priceless ! Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 2 2026 16:22 utc | 139 re: English Outsider | Jun 2 2026 14:25 utc | 133
Posted by: Steven Starr | Jun 2 2026 17:02 utc | 140 That was the much vaunted punishment all we’re waiting for? Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 2 2026 18:16 utc | 141 Apologies if this has already been posted, but here’s some interesting analysis that ought to silence the NAFO wishcasting trolls. It’s based on absurd Ukie propaganda numbers, so take it for what it is. TLDR summary: Ukraine collapses by next spring at the absolute latest. Posted by: AverageJoe | Jun 2 2026 18:19 utc | 142 Re 133 English Outsider and Steven Starr | Jun 2 2026 17:02 utc | 141 All RF tankers should be, if all possible, escorted by RF navy frigates, destroyers or CPV’s. The NATO piracy will continue unless they institute a convoy system, because its easy to pick off a individual tankers. Posted by: Englishman | Jun 2 2026 19:15 utc | 144 @English Outsider | Jun 2 2026 14:25 utc | 133 Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 2 2026 19:16 utc | 145 Posted by: Stonebird | Jun 2 2026 19:00 utc | 144 Posted by: Konami | Jun 2 2026 19:22 utc | 146 re: Stonebird | Jun 2 2026 19:00 utc | 144 Posted by: Steven Starr | Jun 2 2026 19:31 utc | 147 Konami | Jun 2 2026 19:22 utc | 147
Posted by: AverageJoe | Jun 2 2026 18:19 utc | 143 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 2 2026 19:41 utc | 149
Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 2 2026 19:41 utc | 150 If we continue to focus narrowly on the purely military aspect of the conflict we run the risk of expending increasing amounts of wind-baggery and wibble on minutiae while still missing out on other information inputs. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 2 2026 20:17 utc | 151 Posted by: AverageJoe | Jun 2 2026 18:19 utc | 143 Ukraine collapses by next spring at the absolute latest. Posted by: ed4 | Jun 2 2026 20:47 utc | 152
Posted by: ed4 | Jun 2 2026 20:47 utc | 153 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 2 2026 21:02 utc | 153 RF does not need to give NATO any extra time to ramp up production of drones and munitions and other weapons……WTH. Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 2 2026 21:29 utc | 154
Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 2 2026 21:29 utc | 155 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 2 2026 21:38 utc | 155 https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2026/06/ukraine-robots-winning/413902/?oref=d1-featured-river-secondary Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 2 2026 21:40 utc | 156 Winning:
https://news-pravda.com/world/2026/06/02/2346637.html Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 2 2026 22:01 utc | 157 ***What I meant, and therefore should’ve said more clearly, is: “Would you prefer to see Ukraine-style brownshirts in the streets instead?” Look those folks in NYC are the product of consumer society, as am I; they are confused, as I am increasingly; they are woke, as I am–no wait, never gonna happen.*** Posted by: frithguild | Jun 2 2026 23:01 utc | 158
Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 2 2026 6:13 utc | 121 Posted by: joey_n | Jun 2 2026 23:11 utc | 159 Seems there has been a bit of a neo USAID regime style dust up that hasn’t reached US media one iota: Posted by: frithguild | Jun 2 2026 23:12 utc | 160 Simply look at the savage attack on the girls dormitory . This was carried out by a Uke drone series of sixteen which ALL got through Russian defenses. (Three deliberate waves). Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 2 2026 23:33 utc | 161 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 2 2026 21:02 utc | 154 “ Dr Powell’s model estimates Ukrainian collapse by early Spring next year (nine months from mid-May 2026) at the outside” ” This would mean substantially accelerated territorial gains for Russia and ultimate victory.” Posted by: ed4 | Jun 3 2026 1:36 utc | 162 Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 2 2026 23:33 utc | 162 “e Donbas doesn’t have the layers of defense as deep inside Russia does. ” Posted by: ed4 | Jun 3 2026 1:39 utc | 163 It seems pretty clear lots of Russia doesn’t have much of a defense against drones. It’s just too big. Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 3 2026 2:27 utc | 164 It seems strange to me that the Russians are not able to protect their oil refineries. I cannot believe that their is no way to secure these sites. It is a matter of fact that NATO/Ukraine are attacking Russia‘s oil Infrastructure above all. There are fuel shortages in Crimea and Russia has halted all exports of gasoline and kerosin, therefore the attacks on Russian refineries were effective. Will they disrupt the Russian warmachine? Posted by: Lesjeuxsontfaits | Jun 3 2026 6:21 utc | 165 Posted by: Lesjeuxsontfaits | Jun 3 2026 6:21 utc | 166 Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 3 2026 6:58 utc | 166 @9razyna | Jun 1 2026 12:40 utc | 79 >>In Poland we say, that the government is Polish-speaking, not Polish.Bingo!! I remember at the 2018 Football Cup, there was a lighthearted moment involving the blonde President of Croatia, and my own father was no less charmed by her than a certain Vladimir Putin. I could see what they saw, but it became more interesting when I heard her speak: native American, completely free of the Slavic accent I know so well. Made me think “She didn’t just study there: she grew up in the US.” And so it turned out to be when looking it up. In this whole part of the world, it’s not uncommon for people to receive their passport just prior to their inauguration. See also that French chick in Georgia before they got rid of her; countless others. And always remember: it’s Russian influence and infiltration we should guard for. Posted by: Moscow Exile | Jun 3 2026 7:19 utc | 167 St. Petersburg attacked via Baltic states before SPIEF opening: Posted by: rk | Jun 3 2026 7:40 utc | 168 @Moscow Exile | Jun 3 2026 7:19 utc | 169
Why wouldn’t it be? Scott Ritter may not have offered proof (say leaked MI6 docs), but his thesis fits the data. The Russian leadership deserve many more love taps until they start doing their jobs. Seems Russian civilians are just along for the ride; but it’s a single cultural area, the latter share the mindset of the former. Just like my own family mostly shares the hubris and entitlement of Donald Trump, which they don’t like being told. Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 3 2026 8:42 utc | 169 The Russian leadership deserve many more love taps until they start doing their jobs. Posted by: pinche | Jun 3 2026 8:55 utc | 170 Ukrainian An-124 just landed in a Finnish air base. Many believe it transported AFU drones or other offensive equipment. Posted by: unimperator | Jun 3 2026 9:17 utc | 171 Military summary: Posted by: unimperator | Jun 3 2026 9:45 utc | 172 Mark Rutte just arrived in Kiev to serve as a human shield. Posted by: unimperator | Jun 3 2026 10:20 utc | 173 Re: Baltic Fascists Posted by: Exile | Jun 3 2026 10:21 utc | 174 Posted by: unimperator | Jun 3 2026 10:20 utc | 174
After what USA/Israel did in Iran, murdering the Supreme Leader on day 1, I’m not sure Rutte’s sacrosanct. Of course, the Russians won’t target him but if they did, the West would scream and shout (but zero change) and ROW wouldn’t care. Some of these escalation steps are hard to undo. Posted by: Konami | Jun 3 2026 10:58 utc | 175 The latest AFU attack on St. Petersburg reportedly hit Saint Petersburg oil terminal, a container judging by black smoke. The drones came through the middle of gulf of Finland, and were reported to have transited through or launched from Estonia. Posted by: unimperator | Jun 3 2026 10:58 utc | 176 Posted by: Lesjeuxsontfaits | Jun 3 2026 6:21 utc | 166Posted by: Sebgo | Jun 3 2026 6:58 utc | 167 Posted by: ed4 | Jun 3 2026 10:59 utc | 177 Posted by: unimperator | Jun 3 2026 10:58 utc | 177 Posted by: ed4 | Jun 3 2026 11:05 utc | 178 Posted by: ed4 | Jun 3 2026 11:05 utc | 179 Posted by: unimperator | Jun 3 2026 11:09 utc | 179 @180 Posted by: unimperator | Jun 3 2026 11:10 utc | 180 @Exile | Jun 3 2026 10:21 utc | 176
How come I’m not surprised; and how wonderful to be MP in a parliament where you don’t need to compete for re-election. Above I wrote about the local Political Breakfast; it’s run by an American retiree, who’s spent a lifetime in “Taiwan Independence” circles. Once you’re on that train, you get worked-up about “Xinjiang Genocide” etc as well. So one day I asked her “How about Free Hawaii? Free Okinawa? Free Tokyo, come to think of it? And, to get to the root cause, Free Apache, free Sioux, free Comanche?” She was smart enough to just smile “Maybe I’ll get to those one day.”
Aren’t we way beyond “if” already? Unless you mean a ground incursion in which case I agree, this could still get worse. You bet that the Kursk caper was, among other things, a probe to see how Moscow would respond to a little Kaliningrad excursion. Now NATO didn’t get everything: after half a year, the Bear did sort itself out, killing everyone caught on the wrong side of the border. But apart from that, Moscow basically understands: naughty naughty, boys will be boys, nothing that warrants an “overreaction.” Even if one of the objectives of the naughtiness apparently was a nuke bunker outside Kurchatov. Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 3 2026 11:58 utc | 181 Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 3 2026 11:58 utc | 182 Posted by: unimperator | Jun 3 2026 12:17 utc | 182 Posted by: Steven Starr | Jun 2 2026 17:02 utc | 141 Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 3 2026 12:23 utc | 183 Posted by: unimperator | Jun 3 2026 11:10 utc | 181 “Just saying AFU launching drones from N Ukraine doesn’t exclude that they could also launch drones from Estonia.” Posted by: ed4 | Jun 3 2026 12:24 utc | 184 You would think that after losing a lot of equipment due to drones, other regions of RU will work out to beef their defense.. but no, still keeping equipment in plain sight with no solutions against mass drones in the 4th year of the conflict. It’s not the first and it will not be the last time when they will fly from the Baltic scum nations. Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 3 2026 12:27 utc | 185 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 2 2026 22:01 utc | 158 “Winning:“ Posted by: ed4 | Jun 3 2026 12:30 utc | 186 Time for RF to adopt the Iranian strategy! Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 3 2026 12:38 utc | 187 @188, Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 3 2026 12:48 utc | 188 The retards are hitting near Leningrad right before the SPIEF … they really do like being spanked it seems. C’mon it’s not a country, it’s a Hentai phantasm ^^. Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 3 2026 13:11 utc | 189
Why? The people who are responsible for the drone attacks won’t get spanked. At best, a few subordinates will —and even that is unlikely. Russia is, after all, so kind as to announce its attacks 48 hours in advance. Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 3 2026 13:34 utc | 190 The next time Zelenskyy flies to Berlin, London or Paris to beg for money—shoot his damn filthy plane out of the sky. Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 3 2026 13:39 utc | 192 The War of the Midterms is the Same in Moscow as in Washington (& vid) Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 3 2026 13:45 utc | 193 Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 3 2026 13:39 utc | 194 Posted by: unimperator | Jun 3 2026 13:46 utc | 194 @196 Posted by: unimperator | Jun 3 2026 13:47 utc | 195 AFU casualties a round 1.300 (last days a bit higher but 1.300s) Posted by: Newbie | Jun 3 2026 13:57 utc | 196 Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 3 2026 13:35 utc | 193 Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 3 2026 14:20 utc | 197 @unimperator | Jun 3 2026 12:17 utc | 184
For starters, I speak without any claim to authority. I’m at best picking things up on the fly, though I’m probably not the only one here. (Oh well, given enough coffee, I guess I could still handle the math of game theory.) But to continue where we left off: an overly materialistic, “scientific” approach seems to conclude that Russia has escalation control in Ukraine, just by counting the toys. But if this belief is fact, then why doesn’t Moscow indeed control the escalation? (Most common answer: “You’re not supposed to talk that way.”) Isn’t escalation control deeply political as well? Putin, neoliberal to the core, likes business to be smooth and predictable, so he offers the same to his partners: “Russia just won’t touch Europe, the whole idea is absurd.” Once that message sticks, how scary is the Bear going forward?
Key! IIRC, establishing a “Northern buffer zone” was Shoigu’s stated priority. Sounded like an order to me, though an officer might want to comment on that. And what did we get? An interminable border skirmish in Vovchansk, which in comparison to the set task looked like mostly a sop for domestic consumption. Russia only started fighting properly in the North, once Ukraine took the initiative to make them–almost as if out of boredom. Meanwhile, with strikes now being long-range as a matter of course, the whole concept of a buffer zone anywhere in Ukraine looks a bit quaint already; maybe you indeed have to clean up the entire place.
Hm; is it? Moldova might cause a bigger headache, because Transnistria looks almost impossible to defend against a determined attack. How about once more hiring cheap Tajik salafi trash, this time for a bio-attack? Russia has cried wolf about a dirty bomb so many times; no idea really if they’re just making it up, or whether their warnings worked. Look, for all I know you are probably sane; but these people are nothing like you are me, and we can have no idea what they’re dreaming of. Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 3 2026 14:48 utc | 198 @unimperator | Jun 3 2026 12:17 utc | 184 Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 3 2026 14:56 utc | 199 @unimperator | Jun 3 2026 12:17 utc | 182
@JamesBond | Jun 3 2026 12:48 utc | 188
[others now drifting towards similar thoughts–as am I] Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 3 2026 15:20 utc | 200 Leave a Comment |
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