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May 24, 2026
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Until a few minutes ago, I was thinking about epistemology and whether if an Oreshnik fell in Ukraine and nobody heard it did it exist?
At least 2 dead, 83 wounded after Russia uses nuclear-capable missile in massive attack on Ukraine
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-nuclear-capable-missile-massive-attack-ukraine-dead-wounded/
So scary nuclear capable madmen launched and not super duper missiles to bring the enemy to their knees missiles. The narratives are logically irreconcilable, really. The time it took for the MSM to report makes me smell woodsmoke from the steam engines manufacturing these narratives.
Posted by: frithguild | May 24 2026 14:38 utc | 1
Now, this looks like an oreshnik strike
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/2058508261741978016?
A for why there, seems to have a pivotal role in Ukraine’s defense manufacturing and a strategic hub for military logistics and drone integration
probably hardened
Posted by: Newbie | May 24 2026 14:52 utc | 2
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Posted by: The Busker | May 24 2026 15:01 utc | 3
First time we’ve seen Oreshnik out of a clear sky.
Kiev’s having a bad night right now.
https://xcancel.com/ArmchairW/status/2058317076624756797
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 24 2026 15:39 utc | 4
Newbie @2: “Now, this looks like an oreshnik strike”
Definitely an oreshnik. Note the lack of visible explosions. All the excitement occurred somewhere underground. I’d love to know what the target was (past tense).
Posted by: William Gruff | May 24 2026 15:48 utc | 5
I’d love to know what the target was (past tense).
Empty garages and abandoned warehouses, as always.
Posted by: Apollyon | May 24 2026 15:59 utc | 6
This is why there was an Oreshnik strike:
The most harrowing footage from Starobelsk, Russia
Mothers identify their dead children. There’s nothing more terrifying.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/164944
Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 16:00 utc | 7
Namelist in post:
🇷🇺🇺🇦 The identities of all students who died as a result of the terrorist attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine on a college and a dormitory in Starobilsk have been established- 21 people died, 42 were injured, the administration of the head of the LNR reported.- May 24 and 25 have been declared days of mourning in the republic.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/164950
Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 16:02 utc | 8
Not enough. We need more retribution. I wonder how many oreshniks Putin has left ?
Posted by: Night Tripper | May 24 2026 16:03 utc | 9
@Melaleuca | May 24 2026 15:39 utc | 4
First time we’ve seen Oreshnik out of a clear sky.Kiev’s having a bad night right now. https://xcancel.com/ArmchairW/status/2058317076624756797
~10 seconds between first impact and first sound of impact. In other words the video was shot from approximately 3.4 km from impact site.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 16:07 utc | 10
Voenkor Kotenok
Congratulations! Better late than never. The first pancake is never a failure. The main thing is to keep going. The strength of Soviet sports is in its mass participation!
The building of the Main Command of the Ground Forces of the Ukrainian Wehrmacht in Kyiv has ceased to exist. Now, they’ll probably do battle planning in the metro. Or maybe a drug addict will share an apartment in a Soviet bomb shelter under the Kyiv military hospital. If so, then we need to get some there too. There’s a vast expanse of landscape design ahead. But the road is mastered by the one who keeps going. Comrades, it’s time to justify the advances made. It’s time to strike!
Posted by: MiniMO | May 24 2026 16:13 utc | 11
🇷🇺🇺🇦 Foreign journalists are working at the site of a terrorist attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Starobelsk– They were shown the debris of ammunition and drones, which the Ukrainian Nazis used to attack a college and a dormitory.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/164959
Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 16:13 utc | 12
Posted by: karlof1 | May 23 2026 18:51 utc | 26
Karlof1 – thank you for that. Came across it just now on the other thread. The “Time of Heroes” programme I’d have missed but for you. Gets you thinking, things like that. Wonder if you’re thinking along the same lines.
It’s significant, isn’t it, that programme? The relatively limited initial SMO now turning into a production line for the next generation of administrators and politicians. They said they were doing that a couple of years back and your link shows how it’s going. The man appointed Acting Minister in Dagestan – bet they selected him especially for the Q&A – also shows them using the spirit of the SMO to pull the various components of the RF together.
It’s been a long war for the Russian Federation. Pretty well since it became the political unit we know today. And because wars always throw up their iconic moments it is those iconic moments that stick in the popular memory of the nations that fight them.
For us, in the modern era, I suppose the first iconic moment that sticks, or used to stick in the popular memory, is the “Great Retreat” that stopped the Schlieffen Plan in its tracks. The last Old Contemptible died as recently as the start of this century and there are still memorials to them. For the French of that time, always Verdun. And later, from Khalkhin Gol to Bir Hakeim and beyond, iconic battles in profusion that are still remembered and the memory still cherished in all the countries that fought the Third Reich. Or were remembered in the West until not long ago, for all they’re now consigned to the history books read only by a few, or pressed into service by the politicians as required merely for propaganda purposes.
The iconic battles of the Russian Federation have not yet retired to the history books. And they’re freighted with still living memories of earlier such battles. The battle for Height 1622 (“Donkey’s Ear Hill”), a murderous action and one of the decisive battles of the Chechen/Dagestan wars, connects with the earlier battle for Hill 3234 in Afghanistan. Prokhorenko’s lonely death – “I call in fire upon myself” – summons up Pyanzin’s call during the desperate final stages of the siege of Sebastopol ““We have nothing left to fight back with. Open fire on my command post. There are many fascists here. Goodbye, comrades!”
The risky March to Pristina marks the opening phase of the RF conflict with the West, the conflict foreshadowed in the Primakov doctrine first set out around that time. The quiescent, sometimes submissive, Yeltsin years were giving way to determined resistance, and that resistance fortified by constant reference to the battles of earlier conflicts, those in turn deliberately linked to the battles fought by the successor state, the Russian Federation.
We don’t see it like that. Not at all. I always remember the casual remark of a naval officer chance met just before the SMO kicked off, around the time HMS Defender was adventuring near Crimea. “The Russians seem to be getting a little frisky in the Black Sea at the moment.”
” A little frisky”. Did we not see the slow progress into the present war? Pristina 1999, MSC 2007, Valdai 2014, Putin’s 2015 UN speech – the warning signs were there but we were blind to them. And that slow progress into open war accompanied by military developments we were also blind to. Only Martyanov understood those developments fully, I ‘ve since discovered. It’s only a few years back that hypersonics and the formidable Russian AD systems were casually dismissed as mere talk, talk that would be proved to be such were the Russians ever to come up against our technologically superior Western weaponry.
While we were seeing it like that, the ever-backward Russians getting a little frisky and needing to be put back in their box, the RF was fighting a series of proxy wars that few of us in the West even recognised as proxy wars. Tell Englishmen that Syria was a Western proxy war and 99 out of a 100 will exclaim, “What the hell are you talking about? ” But for the Syrians and the Iranians and the Russians it was just that. It was a proxy war very similar to the proxy wars we’d fought against Russia before the RF had ever existed: the Wahhabi militants the Russians were fighting in Chechnya promoted and supported by us, just as Brzezinski was proud of setting the Mujahideen on in Afghanistan for the explicit purpose of weakening the old Soviet Union. The Jihadists we armed and equipped so munificently, and poured into Syria across the Turkish border in such quantity to reinforce rebellion there, out of the same stable. And now the Ukrainians pressed into service for the same purpose. What we see as localised brush fires and nothing much to do with us, they see as part of the same determined Western assault on the RF.
In the resistance to that assault we now see the same Russian iconic moments summoned up again. In the “Anthem of the Donbass” we see the explicit linkage of the current struggle against the West in Ukraine with the old struggle against Europe in their still proudly remembered Great Patriotic War. In the Russian films of the 2000’s and 2010’s the memory of that old struggle is reinforced time and again. In the most famous of those films, the White Tiger, the central character, a mysterious tank commander supernaturally created out of the fire of war, insists on maintaining and re-arming his tank even after the final Russian victory in Berlin. It’s not over yet, he insists. They’ll be back, sooner or later. And when they are, we’ll be ready for them. And he climbs back into his tank to get ready.
We’re back. And they’re ready for us. Out of what was only a relatively minor police operation in the Donbass, an operation that morphed into no more than the brutal attrition of our Ukrainian proxies and those we send to assist our proxies, the Russians have constructed their new heroic national myth
We in the West have our own heroic national myths – the Battle of Britain, Bastogne, Iwo Jima – but for all the attempts to call in aid those national myths and relate them to the present, we have nothing of that potency today. Our soldiers will slip back from Ukraine quietly, unheralded. They weren’t supposed to be there in the first place so will occupy no national pantheon of heroes. Our practitioners of “dirty war” – it was a very dirty war, our war against the Russians in Ukraine – will remain for ever in the shadows. Their soldiers, though, will march back as “Heroes” and as graduates of the “Time of Heroes” programme will form the leading cadres of the Russia that will grow out of this war, linked for ever with icons of the near and distant past alike.
And the Ukrainians, caught up almost randomly in this great struggle of empires? They fought like heroes too, though few acknowledge that. What icons have they left to treasure? Petliura, and later Bandera? The Heavenly Hundred? Biletsky? The Azov Third Assault Brigade? The Aidar? That’s what will be the icons of the diaspora in Europe after the war, as they are already the icons of the Ukrainian diaspora in Canada and the States. I doubt they’ll remain icons for those who stay at home.
Posted by: English Outsider | May 24 2026 16:17 utc | 13
❕“The Starobelsk Massacre” will be included in the indictment against the Kiev regime, stated Ombudswoman Yana Lantratova
It was a deliberate terrorist strike: three waves, 16 drones hit exactly the same spot. There were no military targets nearby, Lantratova said.
https://t.me/ukraine_watch/61453
Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 16:29 utc | 14
😡⭐️🇺🇦UKRAINIAN DRONES WAITED FOR CHILDREN TO RUN OUT OF THE BUILDING, THEN ATTACKED THEM
‼️This was stated to foreign journalists in Starobelsk by Russia’s Commissioner for Human Rights, Lantratova.
💥Another wave of attacks occurred when rescuers and parents arrived at the scene, attempting to STOP the rescue efforts.
https://t.me/ukraine_watch/61457
Note the similarity to Minab, Iran.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 16:32 utc | 15
Well, it is precisely this reaction of the Russians that a West wants to provoke a Sylensky with such attacks on children.
Posted by: Genesis | May 24 2026 16:38 utc | 16
Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 16:29 utc | 14
Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 16:32 utc | 15
Note the similarity to Minab, Iran
Imitation being the sincerest form of flattery.
I sure hope that there’s no longer any doubt in any mind about the depth of depravity we’re witnessing here.
Posted by: john | May 24 2026 16:50 utc | 17
Hopefully this marks a transition of Russian action from defense/retaliation to preemption, especially including attacks on Western assets and military leaders. One might expect the unheeded warnings of the past now to be prosecuted with full force and without further warning.
Posted by: norecovery | May 24 2026 16:53 utc | 18
Sounds to me like more tit-for-tat strikes. A dozen killed here… twenty killed there… it’s a rush for sure, but don’t wanna get TOO high.
How long will this back-and-forth continue? Months? Years? No doubt weapons manufacturers and investors are rooting for the “years” option, or even “decades”… like that huge money-maker in Afghanistan a while ago.
Posted by: Mark Mosby | May 24 2026 18:23 utc | 19
When the narrative breaks down in the face of burning-hot, hypersonic reality:
Those responsible for the poor performance of Ukrainian air defense have been identified in Kyiv.
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Ukrainian air defenses performed “well” only on paper. According to a report from the Ukrainian Air Force, virtually everything flying toward Kyiv and the Kyiv region was intercepted overnight. However, the Ukrainian press believes this is not the case; most missiles penetrated the air defenses and hit their targets. Moreover, it turns out that Western allies, unwilling to supply Ukraine with interceptor missiles, are to blame for all of Ukraine’s air defense woes.
https://en.topwar.ru/283292-v-kieve-nashli-vinovnyh-v-plohoj-rabote-ukrainskoj-pvo.html
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 18:24 utc | 20
The Oreshnik warheads reportedley hit targets in two different areas – Belaya Tserkov and Kiev. Remember that Oreshnik warheads are individually programmable and Oreshnik uses the ‘fractal bombardment’ method, allowing it to release them from the bus at separate times. So they set it to fly over several target areas, releasing as needed.
Posted by: unimperator | May 24 2026 18:30 utc | 21
Putin carefully avoided attacking NATO bases on his borders, preferring instead to bomb empty warehouses after warning the Ukronazi side.
Only opportunists like Martyanov could believe in Putin’s honesty
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Posted by: Cagliostro | May 24 2026 18:56 utc | 22
bomb empty warehouses
Posted by: Cagliostro | May 24 2026 18:56 utc | 22
For empty warehouses they didn’t half produce a lot of smoke. There was a video circulating earlier showing early morning in Kiev, and the amount of smog billowing around made it look like it was from another planet.
And what kind of ”empty warehouse” needs fire-fighting helicopters water-bombing the place?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 19:04 utc | 23
English Outsider | May 24 2026 16:17 utc | 13—
Bravo!! Extremely well done! I recall at the end of 2022 when the idea of the Time of Heros program was first formulated, then in 2023 when it was put into action. I covered those meetings back then because I saw their importance and tried to get my readers to see that too. ToH is woven into the Russian conception of what it takes for Good Governance to occur and be practiced. Many of the combat vets now work with children and as testified never in their wildest dreams thought they would be employed thusly. The meeting transcript’s been officially translated into English and is here. I also suggest clicking the photo icon to view the 16 images where you’ll see very high morale and learn that the cadre isn’t all male. Eventually a ToH member will become Russian President, and we should contemplate what that means. We should also contemplate how Russia will be governed for the rest of the century, how the entirety of Russian Esprit will be spread across that vast land. When speculating on the course of Russian/Chinese relations, the quality of Russian governance must be included in the variables. Most importantly, ToH needs to be seen as a component within the vision Putin outlined in his 2024 Leap Day speech.
As you note, Russian patriots differ from those the West tries to fit with that moniker. Martyanov consistently repeats the primary reason–Russian’s defend their homeland while Westerners–Americans most especially–have never done so in the post-WW2 Era if ever. Similar words can be assigned to Iranians and those members of the Arc of Resistance. A few sagacious Westerners warned not to march on Russia but were never heeded. And not doing so has made those who tried and are now trying fools to the nth degree. Russia and China share the same goal of eliminating Western hegemony and making International Law paramount, while enforcing the required changes in Western behavior to make that possible. The proof for that goal is present within the parties joint declarations and statements over the past four years if not longer. I see that task as the ultimate Denazification Program or program to eliminate Exceptionalism. IMO, we both share the need for Humanity to attain those goals. I muse about how historians 100 years from now will view our post-1945 Era, and the fact that those historians will likely be Chinese.
ZH has a posting up showing that the US is charging to the rescue of Ukraine…./s
US Approves “Homing All The Way Killer” Missile Support Sale To Ukraine
The US State Department has officially cleared a $108.1 million hardware and sustainment package to keep Ukraine’s frontline air defenses online, after there’s not been much in the way of big dollar headlines concerning Washington’s longtime military support to Kiev of late.
The cash injection targets the maintenance and optimization of the US-designed HAWK system – which is short for the “Homing All the Way Killer” surface-to-air missile system.
Posted by: psychohistorian | May 24 2026 19:13 utc | 25
Posted by: psychohistorian | May 24 2026 19:13 utc | 25
The US has never used the HAWK system in combat – though other nations have, such as Israel in the ’67 Six Day War. It was retired from US service in 2002 by the Marine Corps. It is a system from the 60’s.
Interestingly Iran have a HAWK system defending Bandar Abbas, bought in the days of the Shah.
The money allocated to Ukraine falls short of the minimum $130 million required to maintain and sustain a complete HAWK system.
So not really charging to the rescue…
Just my €0.02…
Posted by: Richard Head | May 24 2026 19:34 utc | 26
@ English Outsider | May 24 2026 16:17 utc | 13
Seconding @ karlof1’s “Bravo”.
Those of us in the West, at least our “leadership” have completely lost any understanding of honour, of sacrifice, of martyrdom, and when our “leadership” anoints latest enemy du jour the lack of understanding of these concepts is exposed, utterly confounding the lofty policies and strategies compiled by circularly-funded “think tanks” and “consultancies”.
The West, its “leaders”, its “opinion formers”, its “influencers” do not understand concepts like heroism, sacrifice, martyrdom. None of these concepts exist in the realm of what could be described as Fukuyamaism; if history has ended it should not concern us any more.
So, trying to oppose, let alone defeat civilisation-states that have a long and venerated history honouring heroism, sacrifice and martyrdom leaves the West non-plussed, leading to paralysis of policy, collapse of strategy, and panicky narrative management to try and cover up these failings.
Apologies for not mentioning the word “Ukraine” in a Ukraine topic, but now I have mentioned it I am back on topic, hopefully.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 19:37 utc | 27
English Outsider @ 13
Re your mention of Brzezinski. Recall that he was a Galician aristocrat. One of the main points of his Chessboard book, or pamphlet, was that Galicia is the center of the universe. Even fifty years ago we were being played for this moment.
And it was really amateurs and aristos who should have been gone into sunset playing us. They get to do this because Americans know much less than nothing beyond the waters edge. So we let expats manage for us. They manage very badly
Posted by: oldhippie | May 24 2026 19:38 utc | 28
I suppose it could be crystallised down to the idea that heroism, sacrifice and martyrdom can’t be shown as assets on a balance sheet, can’t generate quarterly bonuses, therefore they are ignored…
… until they can’t be.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 19:49 utc | 29
Going back briefly to the “empty warehouse” meme, of course they’re empty, they used to store Ukraine’s national gold reserves…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 19:55 utc | 30
For empty warehouses they didn’t half produce a lot of smoke. There was a video circulating earlier showing early morning in Kiev, and the amount of smog billowing around made it look like it was from another planet.
Burning car tires, presumably.
Posted by: Apollyon | May 24 2026 20:12 utc | 31
Burning car tires, presumably.
Posted by: Apollyon | May 24 2026 20:12 utc | 31
Indeed, could well be that; the winter grade tyres that everyone will be looking for when the next snow season arrives…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 20:15 utc | 32
And of course, every single warehouse in Kiev is filled with car tyres, except when they’re empty warehouses…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 20:18 utc | 33
Indeed, could well be that; the winter grade tyres that everyone will be looking for when the next snow season arrives…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang
You kill our children, we burn your winter grade tyres.
Posted by: Apollyon | May 24 2026 20:24 utc | 34
You kill our children, we burn your winter grade tyres.
Posted by: Apollyon | May 24 2026 20:24 utc | 34
Yeah OK, I hadn’t thought of you as a troll before now, but your false equivalence, your clumsy and crude attempts at narrative manipulation are now exposed, thank you for that information.
You have purposely ignored the utter chaos that Russia has unleashed upon Ukrainian military and civilian infrastructure. I could provide a load of link-supported details, but you’re not worth the effort. Also noted is your previous lack of response to earlier posts drawing attention to the grass-roots pushback by Ukrainian civilians against your TCC colleagues and fellow-travellers.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 20:37 utc | 35
You have purposely ignored the utter chaos that Russia has unleashed upon Ukrainian military and civilian infrastructure.
I don’t care about infrastructure. Selenskiy still walks the streets of Kiew, spreading propaganda. How is this possible?
Posted by: Apollyon | May 24 2026 20:43 utc | 36
Selenskiy still walks the streets of Kiew, spreading propaganda. How is this possible?
Posted by: Apollyon | May 24 2026 20:43 utc | 36
OK, I’ll humour you one more time; you have fallen into the all too common trap of contextualising things in terms of personalities. “Putin this”, “Zelensky that”…
For some strange reason you regard personalities as more powerful, more enduring than infrastructure; this shows a complete failure on your part to understand that without infrastructure the personalities don’t exist.
Re-order your understanding, otherwise you will remain confused.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 20:56 utc | 37
I don’t care about infrastructure.
Perhaps then you should refrain from discussing military matters.
Posted by: malenkov | May 24 2026 20:57 utc | 38
Anyway, I think I’ve reached the barren ground stage of the parable of scattering the seeds.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 21:00 utc | 39
Posted by: Apollyon | May 24 2026 20:43 utc | 36
Because Budanov is a far more capable and dangerous leader than Zelensky…killing the latter would not achieve the stated goals…
Just my €0.02…
Posted by: Richard Head | May 24 2026 21:00 utc | 40
Perhaps then you should refrain from discussing military matters.
Posted by: malenkov | May 24 2026 20:57 utc | 38
This, as well…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 21:02 utc | 41
this shows a complete failure on your part to understand that without infrastructure the personalities don’t exist
The infrastructure that makes Selenskyj powerful is not located in Ukraine.
Posted by: Apollyon | May 24 2026 21:08 utc | 42
Ukraine Just LOCKED The Door 85,000 Russian Troops Are Now TRAPPED Forever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmVy9ztIeMA
Posted by: Dogon Priest | May 24 2026 21:11 utc | 43
… We’re back. And they’re ready for us. …
Posted by: English Outsider | May 24 2026 16:17 utc | 13
Thank you English. I wish more people were aware of the history you reported in this post. It’s shocking how propagandistic and censored our media and what we teach students have been in the West.
Posted by: Samu | May 24 2026 21:16 utc | 44
That’s a fuck ton of “tyres” going up. So expensive, it was surrounded by fortifications and protected with AD systems.
Probably Continental or Michelin tyres then. /s
Target was large modern logistics complex FIM Service (“Chaika”) in the village of the same name on the western outskirts of Kyiv was destroyed.
Interestingly, just across the road is located the “Chaika” sports airfield, where since at least 2024, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been actively erecting fortifications and deploying air defense positions
Telegram: View @intelslava
Posted by: Suresh | May 24 2026 21:19 utc | 45
The sad human cost continues:
Tragedy in the Ternopil TCC: a conscript committed suicide
In the premises of the Ternopil Regional CCC and SP, a man liable for military service committed suicide. The incident occurred on May 23 during the stay of a citizen in an institution to clarify credentials
This was reported by the press center of the regional military registration and enlistment office, RegioNews reports.
The Ternopil Regional TCC and SP reported that at about 19:00 on May 23, the man was invited to the premises of the recruitment center to clarify military credentials.
According to the CCC, during his stay in the institution, the man entered the bathroom, locked himself from the inside and fired a shot from a firearm. The wound was incompatible with life.
After finding the victim, the servicemen called law enforcement officers and an emergency medical team, and before the arrival of doctors, they tried to provide the necessary assistance. It was not possible to save the man.
Law enforcement officers are currently working on the spot. Investigative actions are underway and all the circumstances of the incident are being established.
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/ternopolshchina/1779615182-tragediya-v-ternopilskomu-ttsk-viyskovozobov-yazaniy-vchiniv-samogubstvo (via translation add-on.)
But somehow, Zelensky is so powerful that people would rather end their own life than fight to preserve his power…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 21:21 utc | 46
no errect on Ukrainians
Posted by: Simon | May 24 2026 21:25 utc | 47
I dunno, there seems to be a lot of Ukrainian “errect”, judging by the number of child rape prosecutions reported in various Ukrainian media outlets.
Presumably you are in favour of this?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 21:35 utc | 47
According to NASA FIRMS data, fires were observed in and around the following key sites in Kyiv:
▪️ Workshops of the Artem defense company, specializing in missile production;
▪️ Industrial zone in Kyiv’s Darnytskyi district;
▪️ Workshops of the Analitprilad plant, specializing in analytical and measuring equipment, and the former Relay and Automatics plant;
▪️ An ATB warehouse on the western outskirts of Kyiv;
▪️ Area around the SBU building in Kyiv’s Podilskyi district.
Government buildings, such as the Rada, the Council of Ministers, the Presidency of the Republic, and others, remained intact. This is a good thing, considering that the enemy knew about the attack in advance and it was carried out at night on a weekend, meaning these sites had been empty for some time.
You can be a fan, I understand,
but you don’t see that Putin is doing everything he can to eliminate some weapons in the hands of the Ukronazis, but he’s careful not to eliminate those who design and manage them, NATO.
By now, even the blind and deaf have realized that Putin carefully avoids punishing the real aggressors responsible for the deaths of Russian civilians.
Even today, the Ukronazis attacked civilian structures on Russian soil, mocking the “major” attack on Kiev.
Posted by: Cagliostro | May 24 2026 21:46 utc | 48
Note the similarity to Minab, Iran.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 16:32 utc | 15
It’s absolutely heinous and disgusting. My only hope is that perhaps this will lead to a tipping point, and any remaining global sympathy and support for Ukraine will shift to Russia.
Posted by: James M. | May 24 2026 21:52 utc | 49
1550th day of special operations in Ukraine, without a NATO base from which weapons are shipped to Ukronazistan and which are operated by NATO personnel being hit and destroyed.
86th day of war in the Persian Gulf: cruiser aircraft carriers seriously damaged, 42 aircraft, including drones worth $30 million, shot down, and 15 US bases destroyed. Let’s not even talk about Israel, where things were even worse.
NATO, with its tail between its legs, carefully avoided interveni
ng.
Posted by: Cagliostro | May 24 2026 22:02 utc | 50
hazelnut or nut, russians are preparing, that will be very very very dirty
Posted by: Macpott | May 24 2026 22:13 utc | 51
Best news in a long time but strikes must continue. Ukie air defense missiles stock, HIMARS and Flamingo missiles are now ash. Deep warehouses failed to protect them. Panic has gripped Kiev people who are now fleeing west in large numbers. Kiev economy will collapse soon. Ukies are very thankful that the Kiev dam was untouched though its structural integrity is now in limbo.
Europe can’t save Ukraine. Putting up with the mess called Ukraine is bankrupting Europe and making pro-Putin parties popular in France, Germany, UK, etc. These 3 hold 70% of Europe’s fragile economy. It’s game over for Europe and what is left over in Ukraine.
However Russia should keep targeting Ukraine in summer so that the final blow to knockout Ukraine can be dealt in winter. By then both Europe and USA will be in political turmoil, USA in $41 trillion+ shutdown and Taiwan looking like Kiev today.
Posted by: Jason | May 24 2026 22:22 utc | 52
Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 19:37 utc | 27—
The concept of Civilization States/Nations is important and merits closer inspection. IMO, the USA doesn’t qualify. nor does the greater mass of Europe. Indeed, the concept we’re taught in the West–Western Civilization versus Global Civilization–is never really defined or is criteria supplied to support a definition. IMO, that concept is a big part of the Exceptionalism that needs to be erased from Humanity. After the collapse of what’s known as Classical Antiquity Civilization of the Roman Empire, what replaced it was a series of War Lords and their realms that were legitimized by the Vatican–a War Lord of a different sort but still a War Lord. The hundreds of years of religious wars and Crusades waged to consolidate the power and realms of the War Lords represent a continual Barbarism, not the growth of Civilization. The aim throughout the period after the fall of Rome was to reconstitute Empire seated within the Italian Peninsula under the auspices of the Vatican and its allies. That power center moved to Iberia around 1400 with the series of Spanish Popes and their “Bulls.” That Great Power was being formulated via trade was clearly seen and that pushed some key technological developments related to shipbuilding and navigation where the Genoans and Portuguese excelled. Their exploration soon morphed into Imperialism and Colonialism and the rapine they generated. Oddly, at about that time China decided seaborne trade to its West was no longer worthy of the expense; so, Europeans were able to enter a vacuum that had contained a form of Win-Win relations that was absent violence. Being non-violent isn’t the European way as the Papal Bulls emphasized–only properly designated Christians were humans worthy of respect; thus, all others are subject to plunder and enslavement. The West didn’t bring civilization; it brought death and destruction; and for those populations well removed from Africa and Eurasia, death from germs ro enslavement.
Humanity is only now emerging from that Era of Plunder, Imperialism and the quest for Empire as the last remaining Empire experiences an increasingly rapid decline. Oddly enough, Russia and China were also once Empires but have now rejected that path for differing periods of time. The Western War Lord states show no other aspirations other than conquest and have abandoned expanding their civitas–their basis for any claim to be civilized–instead. In other words, at present there is no Western Civilization with those occupying its leadership positions meriting the Russian term neculturny. This point’s been discussed many times over the years here as this example from July 2020 shows. Humanity instead clearly wants to expand its civilization by expanding its civitas and the wellbeing of the people dwelling there. To do that, the last remaining Empire and its associated War Lord states need modification. The SMO in Ukraine is part of that process as is the conflict in West Asia.
Posted by: Simon | May 24 2026 22:35 utc | 52
There are no real targets for Oreshnik in Ukraine.
No target in Ukraine?
Tell that to those who were in the underground factory in Dinipro.
Or to those who were in the bunkers the Oreshniks visited yesterday.
If you find a way to communicate with the afterlife, of course.
Posted by: Sebgo | May 24 2026 23:04 utc | 54
Abu Martyanov al Putinculti’s latest:
“destroyed sites, especially around Belaya Tserkov (literally White Church) airfield complex which contained many things ranging from bunkers to aviation repair and “mad maxing” facilities for all kinds of flying means for strikes against Russia.”
Includes this RT quote:
“It achieved all the goals and was a response to the terrorist attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on civilian targets.”
Obvious question:
Why were these targets not attacked and destroyed before? Why did it need Ukranazistan murdering schoolchildren for this to happen?
Of course that’s not answered or the question even brought up.
AMaP also avers:
“…terrorism against Russian civilians will continue–UAVs and hence striking schools, dormitories, kindergartens et al…”
Remind me again, what did Russia do to Chechen terrorists? Oh, right, went after the leaders and wiped them out by all means, from a bomb-rigged lorry (Shamil Basayev) to a poisoned letter (Khattab) to an assassination team in Qatar (Zelimkhan Yandarbaiyev). And yet ꑭelensky, Budanov, Syrsky, and the entire Ukranazi Verkhovna Rada seem immune to elimination.
“Militarily NATO is impotent and terrorism is the only weapon they have.”
And the obvious, logical, course of action is……….?
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | May 24 2026 23:14 utc | 56
Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2026 22:58 utc | 53
Thank you very much, Karl.
That’s very well said and it admirably summarizes the situation we find ourselves in.
However, I would like to add a caveat to your conclusion.
Unfortunately, there is a lack of shared vision among those who want to end the last empire.
Because some believe that the goal is simply to replace the empire with another hegemon, and they are eager to promote their candidate for this role.
They want to seize colonies and impose themselves on other peoples.
Others believe that victory requires copying in every respect the methods of those we all condemn, and we are witnessing a plethora of suggestions for China, Russia, and Iran to compete in perfidy, atrocities, genocide, and other war crimes.
If we lose this moral war, it will be pointless to get rid of the Empire, because it will have spread everywhere, and evil will multiply and propagate despite the empire’s end.
I just read in the other thread a post suggesting to Iran to scatter its radioactive uranium across West Asia, and from someone who claims to support the Alternative Axis.
It’s a telling example of the problem.
The challenge, therefore, isn’t simply to bring the empire to its end without triggering World War III.
We must also ensure that the toxic ideas and ideologies with which this empire has shaped people’s minds are eradicated as well.
Ant it is not the easiest part of the struggle.
Posted by: Sebgo | May 24 2026 23:30 utc | 57
Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2026 22:58 utc | 53
Indeed, the concept we’re taught in the West–Western Civilization versus Global Civilization–is never really defined or is criteria supplied to support a definition. IMO, that concept is a big part of the Exceptionalism that needs to be erased from Humanity. After the collapse of what’s known as Classical Antiquity Civilization of the Roman Empire, what replaced it was a series of War Lords and their realms that were legitimized by the Vatican–a War Lord of a different sort but still a War Lord.
Thanks Karlof1, your posts are alway pithy and this one is too, it seems like you are riffing on your knowledge of history and just letting it flow. We here don’t always acknowledge the better comments, too busy in my case thinking about the topic and perhaps following up the links provided.
Not to tempt fate but things are going well here on the Moon, signal to noise is close to 100%. Thanks all.
Posted by: jonku | May 24 2026 23:46 utc | 58
Sebgo | May 24 2026 23:30 utc | 57—
Thanks for your reply to which I quite agree. I have hopes with Xi’s Global Initiaves and Russia’s adoption of them as indicated by Lavrov and Putin. Xi espouses the end of hegemony, a goal that’s present in several Initiatives. Ending Exceptionalism IMO is the most difficult part of the task of bringing genuine civilization to Humanity. Just training the educators will be a steep challenge as it will take special people for the task and a willingness of governments to allow them to do their work.
The infrastructure that makes Selenskyj powerful is not located in Ukraine.
Posted by: Apollyon | May 24 2026 21:08 utc | 42
In which case, offing Zelensky accomplishes…what, again?
Fish in a barrel. Fish in a f***ing barrel.
Posted by: malenkov | May 25 2026 0:14 utc | 60
Ok guys riddle me this.
Russia launches this attack on military targets in response to the attack on students. Why does Russia not attack these military targets before the attack on students. Why weren’t they attacked 3 years ago.
Seriously, this question needs some answers. Not a fuck off troll answer either, that is a worthless response.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2026 0:24 utc | 61
I can foresee Russia taking Kiev as well as Odessa now. I don’t think there is any other option. It’s only a matter of time.
Posted by: GeorgeWendell | May 25 2026 0:31 utc | 62
“Ukro army is dispersed, there are no large concentrations of people ant material. Oreshnik is thus a waste of money. There are no real targets for Oreshnik in Ukraine
Posted by: Simon | May 24 2026 22:35 utc | 52
The Ukrainian parliament while its in session and the uk embassy during the day preferably while foreign visitors are in.
Russia isn’t doing it because they’re worried about the image of the Kremlin on fire, but they have to know it could very well happen anyways might as well get it over with.
Again it reinforces my point about why not do the strike instead of waiting for a tragic excuse.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2026 0:34 utc | 63
Note the similarity to Minab, Iran.Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 16:32 utc | 15
Guess who paid a visit to Hellenskyi few weeks ago ?
Same old … same old …
Posted by: Hiro Masamune | May 25 2026 0:43 utc | 64
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2026 0:24 utc | 61
One question:
Why has Ukraine not even taken an even meaningful plot of ground and retained it for the last two years?
The bear has been at war with the USA, NATO, Ukraine a well as being active in an international war theatre where the same forces try to cause havoc for countries it is also increasingly aligned with. It moves slowly but gets there, taking time is working in its favour.
It has been sanctioned like no other country on earth in an an attempt to destroy its economy. That has required a massive response.
Behind the scenes it has been working furiously to create allegiances with other powerful countries very quietly that will give far more power to those alliances and itself. It is not just at war in Ukraine but active in support of other countries that are threatened by the west and US.
It has put its country on a massive military production and technology footing. Unlike the west. It’ s improved its defence and economic position despite the odds against it.
Not only at war in Ukraine, it also has to clean up all the mess left behind removing land mines, much unexploded ordnance and rebuild infrastructure in one the most concentrated military battle regions in the world in recent history. It has had to deal with the wounded from both sides and process thousands if not millions of dead bodies. It has had to feed, care, and provide shelter for people that still lived in the regions its has occupied.
You say:
“Ok guys riddle me this.Russia launches this attack on military targets in response to the attack on students. Why does Russia not attack these military targets before the attack on students. Why weren’t they attacked 3 years ago.”
In so doing you cause your own riddle: How was Russia supposed to predict the attack on students and pre-empt it? They may have intelligence services operating in Ukraine, but they are not infallible, nor are they capable of using psychic powers to divine the future. This new attack also mimics the recent Minab terrorism. Quite deliberately malicious and copycat – inline with the desperate attempts of Zelensky and the thugs in his government.
Under the conditions of the SMO, retaliation is legal, deliberate aggressive attack with Oreshnik less legal. In my view Russia has always sought to follow the international rules with warfare, I cannot see that has taken place with the US, NATO, Ukraine and their propensity to use terrorism as a preferred modus operandi.
Posted by: GeorgeWendell | May 25 2026 1:04 utc | 65
@ Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2026 0:24 utc | 61
I’ve read some speculation that one of the targets was a facility in an underground bunker — the type the USSR constructed to withstand a nuclear explosion and which the USSR built disproportionately in the Ukrainian SSR. If this is the case, then such a bunker would’ve been unassailable before the advent of the Oreshnik.
That leaves the question of not “why not three years ago” but “why not three months ago”. I can think of two explanations. First is that the Russians are hesitant to use the weapon because if it malfunctions in whole or part, NATO can recover unexploded parts and get a better idea of how the Oreshnik works — with an eye to copying it, of course. Another is that the number of Oreshniks is no doubt still quite small, and no doubt Russia finds it necessary to hold at least a few in reserve in case their use on targets inside NATO becomes a matter of immediacy and urgency. Which by the way makes comments like this —
Ukro army is dispersed, there are no large concentrations of people ant material. Oreshnik is thus a waste of money. There are no real targets for Oreshnik in Ukraine
Posted by: Simon | May 24 2026 22:35 utc | 52
— typically imbecilic.
Posted by: malenkov | May 25 2026 1:05 utc | 66
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2026 0:34 utc | 63
You’re asking a question that I believe several people have already answered here on MoA.
But I could be wrong and have seen it elsewhere, so I’ll repeat the explanation as I understood it, with my own limitations.
Ukraine is vast, and during the war, it changes the location of its strategic assets, just as it repairs some that have already been hit.
Its adversary, Russia, is therefore faced with the task of constantly updating a list of hundreds of targets to eliminate.
These targets cannot be eliminated all at once; it’s a matter of missile and drone availability, and of target confirmation and prioritization.
This means that there’s a significant amount of spin involved when Russia announces retaliatory strikes.
In reality, these are targets that have already been identified and scheduled, chosen based on media impact and their connection to the strike being avenged.
The answer to the question of why a retaliatory target was not struck earlier is therefore that it was scheduled for later, either because there was something more urgent, or because it had not yet been sufficiently identified and confirmed.
Posted by: Sebgo | May 25 2026 1:14 utc | 67
Just training the educators will be a steep challenge as it will take special people for the task and a willingness of governments to allow them to do their work.
Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2026 23:52 utc | 59
Don’t we have them already, karlof1? In training already around the world in prestigious if varied colleges and universities, even in the US. My own grandchildren are following in various ways their parents’ example, and would be eager to travel to other facilities around the world to learn, as my kids have been able to do. We’re not rich. But where there’s a will there’s a way. This country, the US lags badly in availing these opportunities to young people, but even now it is possible, and even now those among us who don’t ‘go with the flow’ are such teachers, even if it’s only in a tented community on the border of what ordinary folk call US civilization these day.
The kids know they’ve been shafted. Even if no ‘experts’ are available — they’re learning and learning fast. It’s in the DNA.
I agree we’re way way behind in technical expertise. But there ARE teachers out there that will bring young people up to speed — sans propaganda!
Posted by: juliania | May 25 2026 1:22 utc | 68
The answer to the question of why a retaliatory target was not struck earlier is therefore that it was scheduled for later, either because there was something more urgent, or because it had not yet been sufficiently identified and confirmed.
Posted by: Sebgo | May 25 2026 1:14 utc | 67
Allow me the opportunity to suggest not only tat you do not know what goes on in the MOD targeting plans you could not know. You are guessing, iow you are making this up as you go. Armchair Generals control no armies. But an A for effort. 🙂
Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 25 2026 1:55 utc | 70
R2R: John Helmer: ‘Europe Has Declared War on Russia’
https://www.youtube.com/@reason2resist/videos
“Russia retaliates after Ukraine strike on student dormitory.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | May 25 2026 2:23 utc | 71
Ukraine is likely to collapse militarily at any time. Cannot win. Imagine then Ukraine goes as far as to unilaterally surrender and provide everything Russia seeks about the SMO. They sign treaties and agree to everything even changing their constitution, never to join Nato, removing Zelensky, running new elections and surrendering all the annexed Russian territory.
If that were to happen then what changes in the broader geopolitical front for Russia and China or BRICS and the SCO?
Well, I put it to you: nothing changes. The US, EU-NATO, the collective West remain belligerent to them. Sanctions remain in force. Trade restrictions remain in force. Warrants for arrest over MH17 remain active. Economic trade and geopolitical pressure from the EU-Nato nations increases on Ukraine. RAND prepares new theories and opportunities for the West to undermine Russian independence, economic self-sufficiency, and independence creating new fronts for military proxy conflict.
Transnistria, Kaliningrad, Georgia, Eurasian, Belarus or Moldava and African nations become the new locui for running interference. Situation normal. Russia and China continue to do nothing significant in response. The oligarchs of golden billion nations remain in charge of global affairs trade militarization and finance.
Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 25 2026 2:41 utc | 72
*** Moreover, it turns out that Western allies, unwilling to supply Ukraine with interceptor missiles, are to blame for all of Ukraine’s woes. ***
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 18:24 utc | 20
Yes, and that is because they will soon run out of missiles! … uhhh … wait … hmmMMmm. Buut another thing is that …
Posted by: frithguild | May 25 2026 2:41 utc | 73
Post-Ukraine post-Iran, the Western schools shall not then be inundated with thousands of enlightened educators bringing genuine civilization to Humanity
Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 25 2026 2:52 utc | 74
In so doing you cause your own riddle: How was Russia supposed to predict the attack on students and pre-empt it? They may have intelligence services operating in Ukraine, but they are not infallible, nor are they capable of using psychic powers to divine the future.
I understand what you mean,but I’m not trying to say they could’ve prevented the tragedy in the dormitory by these strikes, that would’ve happened anyways but they could still strike headquarters and things of that nature in Kiev even without knowing, or worse announcing a large strike ahead of time.
They should do it again today and tomorrow and force ukraine to keep relocating fixed buildings continually.
If they’re coordinating the war from a hotel or better yet an established government building hit it, collateral damage is inevitable and they won’t win the propaganda war anyways. Ukraine will always claim a civilian damage and trot out anything to prove it and have it accepted unconditionally by its allies.
I just dont really know why they arent hitting anything remotely dangerous. If nothing else itll make Ukraine spray air defense ammunition over its capital so damage will accumulate regardless. There is no laws that mean anything anymore.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2026 3:08 utc | 75
Finally, among the most notable targets were military command facilities. NASA satellite data showed fires in buildings linked to the command of the Ukrainian Ground Forces, as well as in the Lukianivka area, where, according to reports, the Ground Forces headquarters, the Presidential Regiment, and the State Customs building are located. This part of the strike gives the night attack not only a destructive but also a symbolic character: it was not simply about hitting infrastructure, but about a demonstrative strike on command centers.
This is from Southfront. Read carefully the “symbolic” targets they hit. Command centers. Hit those without warning during working hours. How hard is that to figure out? Why wait until a tragedy announce what type of response they have and do it a couple days later. I cant see how this thinking is designed to maximize damage against a vicious and unrelenting enemy.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2026 3:28 utc | 76
🙂 Well I hope this Russian strike on Ukraine, in response to Ukrainian horrific triple tap droning of students in Russia, brings peace. I remain hopeful, I am not naive, but perhaps, perhaps better judgment will now prevail. Otherwise it means the wrong gonadal target was squeezed, failing to get the true instigators’ attention.
If this continues tit for tat from here indicating failure of instigating detente, does anyone know where the true gonadal target is for the current Western Zionist Empire? 😉 Just asking as an intellectual exercise. Maybe us wee little birds can do a fly by poop on them in an act of impotent defiance. 😀
Posted by: titmouse | May 25 2026 4:08 utc | 77
Ukraine is likely to collapse militarily at any time.
If that were to happen then what changes in the broader geopolitical front for Russia and China or BRICS and the SCO? Well, I put it to you: nothing changes.
Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 25 2026 2:41 utc | 72
I disagree, I think a Ukrainian acquiescence to all Russian demands fundamentally weakens NATO, perhaps fatally. It alters the European, and even the Eurasian, security architecture, and emboldens China. This is why the stakes are so high.
Posted by: James M. | May 25 2026 4:41 utc | 78
jonku | May 24 2026 23:46 utc | 58—
Thanks for your reply. Curiosity often leads to good things. EO was curious to read what transpired at the Time of Heros meeting that took place on the heels of the terrorist attack on the school dorm, and that provided the spark for his excellent comment.
Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 25 2026 1:55 utc | 72
You’re right, I have no knowledge of what’s going on in Russian affairs.
And I haven’t been able to draw any analytical conclusions myself; I just found an explanation given by others quite convincing.
Perhaps I even misunderstood the explanation.
Except that I clearly stated that at the beginning of my post.
So what exactly is the accusation?
An “unprovoked attack” ?
Posted by: Sebgo | May 25 2026 5:57 utc | 80
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2026 3:08 utc | 77
There is no laws that mean anything anymore.
To whom ? Who set the rules to “law of the jungle” and want everyone to abide by them ?
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2026 3:28 utc | 78
I cant see how this thinking is designed to maximize damage against a vicious and unrelenting enemy.
That’s right. The question is why do you want Russia to design things exactly to be as his “vicious and unrelenting” enemies?
Who said there is no other way ?
Posted by: Sebgo | May 25 2026 6:10 utc | 81
Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 25 2026 2:41 utc | 74
Russia and China continue to do nothing significant in response.
Your opinion. Everybody doesn’t share it.
The oligarchs of golden billion nations remain in charge of global affairs trade militarization and finance.
Very depressing prophecy. I chose not to accept it as true.
Posted by: Sebgo | May 25 2026 6:16 utc | 82
So what exactly is the accusation? An “unprovoked attack” ?
Posted by: Sebgo | May 25 2026 5:57 utc | 82
Thanks for the reply, but I’m unsure what you mean there.
and re But I could be wrong and have seen it elsewhere, so I’ll repeat the explanation as I understood it, with my own limitations.
Apologies I missed your disclaimer there.
Generally conjecture is ok by me when it comes with the reasoning and evidence behind it. But re “The answer to the question of why a retaliatory target was not struck earlier is therefore” still, don’t know.
Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 25 2026 6:25 utc | 83
I cant see how this thinking is designed to maximize damage against a vicious and unrelenting enemy.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2026 3:28 utc | 78
That is not your short coming N. The flaw is in the thinking and the judgement. And that appears to be endemic inside Russia.
Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 25 2026 6:31 utc | 84
Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 25 2026 2:41 utc | 74
Apologies the intro made no sense , a correction. The prevailing pro-Russia and friends consensus has been from the beginning to now that – Ukraine is likely to collapse militarily at any time. Cannot win.
My comments relate to that being still true.
Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 25 2026 6:38 utc | 85
Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 25 2026 6:25 utc | 85
That said, you also don’t have access to the strategic thinking of the Kremlin or the Russian Ministry of Defense, nor to the data that underpins their analyses and choices.
This doesn’t seem to stop you from preaching to us, in numerous and lengthy posts, that everything is poorly conceived, poorly managed, and poorly executed, according to your august judgment as an expert and supreme judge for statecraft and wat things.
One of these days, you’ll have to share your secret with us, what makes you think you know how to manage Russia better than Vladimir Putin, and how to manage the war better than General Valery Gerasimov.
In the meantime, we are left to think, as you so aptly put it, that “you are making things up”, certainly in well written texts, but which remain propaganda of the “Putin, Russia is bad” type.
So you are not in a very good situation to lecture other posters.
Posted by: Sebgo | May 25 2026 7:08 utc | 86
Interesting how the Russian USb works very fast to find Ukrainian targets when Russian civilians are struk and it is absolutely necessary to give a “strong” response to calm down your own audience! Of course, before the heinous attack insidethe dorm, no one knew anything (nor the Russian USB) abouy military command facilities.Interesting, very interesting…
Posted by: Janscky | May 25 2026 7:36 utc | 87
Y’all said it was a bunch of little children that were killed, I told you it wasn’t. You were wrong. I was right. Again. Show some bloody humility.
Posted by: Decrepit Old Man | May 25 2026 8:20 utc | 88
AFU launched 300 drones at Russia overnight as an answer on the Russian strikes in Kiev and Bela Tserkov, but non reached their targets. Total silence on AFU telegram channels. Bad news for them.
https://x.com/GabeZZOZZ/status/2058807148256145750
Posted by: unimperator | May 25 2026 8:57 utc | 89
@Decrepit Old Man | May 25 2026 8:20 utc | 91
Show some bloody humility.
OK. Names and photos:
21 YOUNG students massacred by Ukraine in Lugansk dorm attack
Heartbreaking memorial photos released
https://t.me/EurasianChoice/62699
Posted by: Norwegian | May 25 2026 9:01 utc | 90
@malenkov
In which case, offing Zelensky accomplishes…what, again?
From a military perspective, presumably little to nothing.
But it would signal to Zelenskyy’s successor: Should there be another targeted attack on Russian civilians—perhaps even minors—you, too, will have to pay with your life, regardless of whether or not you gave the order for the attack.
Posted by: Apollyon | May 25 2026 9:06 utc | 91
19-25 years old not 14-18 as Pasechnik said. These are combat aged individuals in war zone not school children.
https://nashaniva.com/ru/395918
Posted by: Decrepit Old Man | May 25 2026 9:06 utc | 92
@Decrepit Old Man | May 25 2026 9:06 utc | 95
Shame on you.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 25 2026 9:13 utc | 93
Apologies for not mentioning the word “Ukraine” in a Ukraine topic, but now I have mentioned it I am back on topic, hopefully.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 19:37 utc | 27
You are gold.
(And btw I’d also like to applaud English Outsider and karlof1 for their extremely interesting contributions here.)
Posted by: Avtonom | May 25 2026 9:15 utc | 94
@Decrepit Old Man
19-25 years old not 14-18 as Pasechnik said. These are combat aged individuals in war zone not school children.
Would you please go f–k yourself? Thanks.
Posted by: Apollyon | May 25 2026 9:17 utc | 95
And the obvious, logical, course of action is……….?
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | May 24 2026 23:14 utc | 58
All your questions could easily be answered but I’ve got the feeling you won’t listen. If you followed the reasonings and of course the information you get in here, you would be enlightened.
Posted by: Avtonom | May 25 2026 9:31 utc | 96
We must also ensure that the toxic ideas and ideologies with which this empire has shaped people’s minds are eradicated as well. Ant it is not the easiest part of the struggle.
Posted by: Sebgo | May 24 2026 23:30 utc | 59
Very well said. I’m with you.
Posted by: Avtonom | May 25 2026 9:32 utc | 97
Looks like i’ve made some barflies a bit peeved when confronted them with some information that doesn’t come from some z telegram group or donbass devuscka.
When is Poland going to annex western Ukraine?
When will the gloves really come of for the russia?
When will the glorious black sea fleet regain control over the black sea?
The most dreadful ghettos will be created for the barflies.
Posted by: Decrepit Old Man | May 25 2026 9:52 utc | 98
The propaganda outlet nashaniva.com is registered in Nassau, Bahamas 🙂 .
Posted by: aquadraht | May 25 2026 9:54 utc | 99
Simon | May 25 2026 7:51 utc | 90
“Russia cannot scare the West in this way.”
Russia is not trying to scare the West. This Russian leadership is engaging in ritual combat with the Empire, including tolerating NATO attacks on military and civilian targets in its heartland, while it collaborates with the Empire in cleansing the borderland of the khokols. Russia has accepted that the Empire has some kind of “stake” in the Borderland and is trying to make some kind of deal. Ironically it’s Putin himself who seems to want to “keep the US in” Europe. Especially now that Iran has shown how easy it would be for Russia to to launch an Iran-style counterattack against NATO in Europe which would drive out the US.
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | May 25 2026 10:03 utc | 100