Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
May 12, 2026
Trump Goes To China

This week U.S. President Donald Trump is going to China.

His larger plan had been to take Venezuela, Iran and their oil before pressing China, via tariffs and energy restrictions, to concede to U.S. hegemony.

That plan has failed. Trump has lost two wars. His tariff schemes ended in retreat after China restricted the export of its rare earth products. His war on Iran has is one big failure.

Trump is coming to Beijing with his cap in his hand. He, as usual, will try to bluff a way to ‘victory’. He will proceed as if the U.S. were in a great position. The Chinese will be polite, but won’t have any of it.

There have been little preparations for the trip. The sherpas did not convene beforehand to straighten out serious issues between the countries. There are no big contracts or treaties to sign.

Trump will want to sell soybeans and Boeing airplanes. The Chinese are only mildly interested in any such deals. They may sign some contracts to give Trump something to boast about. But they will hedge their deals as the U.S. is known to be a unreliable partner.

Trump will want support for making peace (on U.S. conditions) with Iran. There will be some solemn and wise responses to that.

It is in Chinese interest to see the U.S. bogged down in the Middle East. Any U.S. airplane, ship, gun and soldier in the Middle East is one less to worry about in east Asia. Any munition fired against Iran can not be used against China.

China does not want Iran to lose the war. It will support it, as it already does, wherever needed.

Trump is hauling a bunch of money men with him. A big hope for U.S. financial interest is to open the Chinese (consumer) markets for their virtual ‘products’. But, as President Xi has said, ‘houses are for living’. Communist ideology does not allow for such crap.

A major point of interest on the Chinese side is Taiwan. Beijing wants to finally end the Chinese civil war and for that Taiwan must rejoin the country. U.S. weapon sales to Taiwan and its political agitation are a hindrance to that.

But Taiwan is a big issue in Congress. Some minor verbal commitments on not furthering Taiwan independence may be all Trump can give.

The U.S. wants China to sign on to some rumored about Board of Trade. The U.S. is trying to install such bi-lateral forums to replace the UN, WTO and other international organizations. Like the Board of Peace in Palestine, the Board of Trade wont solve any issues. But as it will not cost China anything to join it will agree to it to keep Trump happy.

To keep Trump happy may well be the sole reason why China has agreed to the meeting.

Comments

He will ask for China to withdraw whatever support China is giving to Iran and force capitulation. Good thing is he can’t deliver anything in return and completely untrustworthy 

Posted by: A.z | May 12 2026 16:58 utc | 1

As I said before after the “board of peace”, Trump tried a “board of energy” (failed miserably) and now he’ll see the only “board of trade” will be a chopping board.
 
schadenfreude is such an adequate word…
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Newbie | May 12 2026 17:05 utc | 2

I want to see Lego videos of Trump’s visit to China……../s
 
China will not make Trump happy with this visit because China will say the same things to Trump that they say in other than face to face communication……no rare earths for weapons that may be used against China!!!!!!

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 12 2026 17:08 utc | 3

Not sure why Beijing is allowing Trump to pollute visit China in the first place.  If Trump cannot “deliver on Taiwan” in the first place, that alone is enough reason to deny Trump permission to visit China!  There is nothing to gain by trying to make Trump or any of his Zionist masters happy; they cannot respect deals.

Posted by: Dixon Ouranoos | May 12 2026 17:08 utc | 4

How Western censorship works
 
Western censorship is less interested in what powerless individuals say privately or online. It is mainly interested in guarding the Official Narrative. Wikipedia acts as the repository of the official narrative. It exactly and truthfully mirrors what its “reliable sources” say. The role of the censor is to guard what these reliable sources say. Wikipedia maintains a list of Reliable Sources. Any publication that deviates from the official narrative is immediately labeled as unreliable and barred from inclusion as a source for a claim in a Wikipedia article.
 
Sometimes mistakes happen. A “reliable source” may publish something that contradicts the official narrative. This is when the censorship machine starts working in overdrive. Titles of articles are adjusted in an hour to serve the narrative. If a person is quoted as saying something contrarian, this person comes under character assassination, until the publication is forced to delete his comments from the published article. If a well-researched report is published by reputable academics, it will be silently “withdrawn for further review”.
 
Here is an example of the last process at work:

There was a report released by Rand Corp in October last year but they took it down stating: “This document has been withdrawn for further review.”
https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA4107-1.html
The site linked below still covers the content of the report however:
https://www.verity.news/story/2025/rand-report-proposes-new-framework-to-stabilize-uschina-ties
Posted by: GeorgeWendell | May 12 2026 4:54 utc | 263

It is a good thing I saved a copy:

Stabilizing the U.S.-China Rivalry – Michael J. Mazarr, Amanda Kerrigan, Benjamin Lenain
 
This report assesses possible means of stabilizing the U.S.-China rivalry. It reflects the findings of a study in which we first examined the challenge of stabilizing strategic rivalries and the principles for doing so. We then assessed Chinese strategic intent, evaluating several recent analyses of Chinese-language documents, to determine the scope for stabilization. Finally, the study involved pairs of U.S. and Chinese scholars outlining the potential for stabilization in three issue areas: Taiwan, the South China Sea, and competition in science and technology. The report concludes with specific recommendations both for general stabilization of the rivalry as well as initiatives in each of those three areas.

The report is 115 pages long with a file size of 1 MB. Google found a copy on a Russian site:

(I am reposting this from the last thread, as I will be continuing on this topic.)

Posted by: Petri Krohn | May 12 2026 17:17 utc | 5

Comrade Trump had done a great job of raising price in agricultural products.
 
China will thanks the Supreme Leader Comrade Donald Trump for his contributions in a war against global obesity pandemic as the world especially Americans at home can shed a few hundred pounds when they can’t afford anymore food.
 
Comrade Trump will win Communist China comrades overseas over with his seductive socialist fraternal kiss and the proletarian American soybeans will flow into the China and saving the American farmers from the crisis he created.
 
There is too much winning in this meeting. Nothing can go tits up.

Posted by: KillerDoll | May 12 2026 17:20 utc | 6

I love that Hegseth has to go with Trump too.  Not for any bilateral meetings with Chinese military figures, but just to keep an eye and Trump and make sure the Chinese don’t try to inform Trump of how bad the US is really doing in Iran.  He’ll have to spend the whole trip whispering into Trump’s ear: “don’t believe a thing they say, everything is going great!”

Posted by: Bob | May 12 2026 17:24 utc | 7

How Western censorship works
 
Western censorship is less interested in what powerless individuals say privately or online. It is mainly interested in guarding the Official Narrative. Wikipedia acts as the repository of the official narrative. It exactly and truthfully mirrors what its “reliable sources” say. The role of the censor is to guard what these reliable sources say. Wikipedia maintains a list of Reliable Sources. Any publication that deviates from the official narrative is immediately labeled as unreliable and barred from inclusion as a source for a claim in a Wikipedia article.
 
Sometimes mistakes happen. A “reliable source” may publish something that contradicts the official narrative. This is when the censorship machine starts working in overdrive. Titles of articles are adjusted in an hour to serve the narrative. If a person is quoted as saying something contrarian, this person comes under character assassination, until the publication is forced to delete his comments from the published article. If a well-researched report is published by reputable academics, it will be silently “withdrawn for further review”.
 
Here is an example of the last process at work:

There was a report released by Rand Corp in October last year but they took it down stating: “This document has been withdrawn for further review.”
https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA4107-1.html
The site linked below still covers the content of the report however:
https://www.verity.news/story/2025/rand-report-proposes-new-framework-to-stabilize-uschina-ties
Posted by: GeorgeWendell | May 12 2026 4:54 utc | 263

It is a good thing I saved a copy:

Stabilizing the U.S.-China Rivalry – Michael J. Mazarr, Amanda Kerrigan, Benjamin Lenain
 
This report assesses possible means of stabilizing the U.S.-China rivalry. It reflects the findings of a study in which we first examined the challenge of stabilizing strategic rivalries and the principles for doing so. We then assessed Chinese strategic intent, evaluating several recent analyses of Chinese-language documents, to determine the scope for stabilization. Finally, the study involved pairs of U.S. and Chinese scholars outlining the potential for stabilization in three issue areas: Taiwan, the South China Sea, and competition in science and technology. The report concludes with specific recommendations both for general stabilization of the rivalry as well as initiatives in each of those three areas.

The report is 115 pages long with a file size of 1 MB. Google found a copy on a Russian site:

(I am reposting this from the last thread, as I will be continuing on the topic.)

Posted by: Petri Krohn | May 12 2026 17:24 utc | 8

The Chinese oil reserves have reportedly not decreased at all since before the start of US attack on Iran. In this sense the attempt to ‘strangle’ China’s energy has been a total failure.

Posted by: unimperator | May 12 2026 17:25 utc | 9

Wouldn’t it be a great move if China gets the USA to remove all tariffs on Chinese Cars? Doesn’t the MIC covet the USA’s “former” car manufacturing capability?

Posted by: Eric Blair | May 12 2026 17:30 utc | 10

@10 
 
Meant to say Chinese oil stockpile has not decreased since the war began. Per XAI.
 

China’s oil stockpiles have remained largely stable (with minimal net change or slight continued builds in the early period) since the Iran war began around late February 2026.
Key points from reports up to mid-May 2026:Minimal drawdown overall: Inventories have dipped by less than 1 million barrels since late February, despite disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz. One estimate put total inventories around 1.8 billion barrels with negligible change.
Continued builds into March/April: China added crude to tanks in March (e.g., surplus of 1.74 million bpd available for storage in some calculations; IEA noted +40 million barrels added that month). Aboveground stocks reached a record **1.24 billion barrels** amid reduced imports.
Strategic approach: Refiners cut imports (e.g., sharp drop in April) as prices rose, relying on pre-built stocks, Russian/Kazakh pipeline supplies, and domestic output rather than aggressive drawdowns. Some permission was given to tap commercial reserves, but overall crude inventories stayed robust.

Posted by: unimperator | May 12 2026 17:35 utc | 11

The US empires provinces in Europe also have a task in this:
“The art of vassalisation
… Conceptually, European allies have a role in this geo-economic struggle with China, but it is not, as during the cold war, to become rich and contribute to the military defence of the central front. To the contrary, their key role from a US perspective is to support US strategic industrial policy and to help ensure American technological dominance vis-à-vis China. They can do so by acquiescing to US industrial policy and by circumscribing their economic relations with China according to American concepts of strategic technologies.”
https://ecfr.eu/publication/the-art-of-vassalisation-how-russias-war-on-ukraine-has-transformed-transatlantic-relations/

Posted by: p3t3r | May 12 2026 17:37 utc | 12

To keep Trump happy may well be the sole reason why China has agreed to the meeting.
 
I doubt that China gives a Tinker’s Cuss about keeping Trump happy.
Xi, and everyone else on the planet, knows that Trump spends most of his time with his head up his bum, admiring the view.
And let’s not forget that Xi recently ordered Chinese manufacturers to ignore threats from Dumbass Yankeds.
I’m 100% certain that Xi will give Trump a lecture on Mutual Respect and send him home feeling that the trip was a waste of time and money.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 12 2026 17:59 utc | 13

Trump will play his arrogant most-powerful-richest-Country-you-need-us-more-than-we-need-you act. The Chinese will be polite and positive without committing to anything. Then laugh their heads off when the Barbarians fly away.
 
Recall when the Chinese laughed at Tim Geithner when he told them their USD assets were safe…..
 
https://rense.com/general86/gei.htm

Posted by: Exile | May 12 2026 17:59 utc | 14

Xi: Our source was The New York Times
 
As well known, Dr. Strangelove commissioned the RAND Corporation to do a study on the Doomsday Machine. In the eponymous movie, Soviet ambassador Alexei de Sadeski accuses the United States of developing a Doomsday Machine. US President Muffley denies this. Ambassador de Sadeski responds with the now famous lines:

  • “Our source was The New York Times.”

Chinese President Xi may have a change of repeating those lines. Last year RAND Corporation published a study titled

They soon after censored the study and withdrew it from circulation. By that time everyone important had already received a copy.
 
Trump thinks he can go to China and apply pressure. When he arrives, he will challenge Xi about China’s support for Iran and Russia, and threaten sanctions and more war.
 
Xi will be prepared. He will have the RAND report on his desk, both in English and Chinese language copies. Xi will argue, that the US has no cards to play. They have no other option, but peaceful coexistence and fair economic and technological competition. Thump may object, but Xi has the upper hand:

  • “Our source was the RAND Corporation.”

 

Posted by: Petri Krohn | May 12 2026 18:08 utc | 15

To keep Trump happy may well be the sole reason why China has agreed to the meeting.
 

Posted by b on May 12, 2026 at 16:53 UTC | Permalink
 

 
It is probably best not to undersell the Chinese sense of humor.  Everyone likes a good laugh.
 

Posted by: too scents | May 12 2026 18:12 utc | 16

But, as President Xi has said, ‘houses are for living’. Communist ideology does not allow for such crap.

 
China isn’t communist.
 
One party, highly nationalistic state that represses speech, and a heavily regulate the economy? That’s FASCISM, baby

Posted by: Observer | May 12 2026 18:15 utc | 17

China isn’t communist.
 
Posted by: Observer | May 12 2026 18:15 utc | 18
 

 
Chinese commoners are going to enjoy the ex-Western Commons.  They have been asking politely, for a very long time, to share.
 
Now they can insist.  If you don’t like sharing that is fine too.
 

Posted by: too scents | May 12 2026 18:22 utc | 18

Not sure why Beijing is allowing Trump to pollute visit China in the first place.  
Posted by: Dixon Ouranoos | May 12 2026 17:08 utc | 5
EExactly. They care not he is Cabalistic pedo. But he is lying scumbag with who nothing can be agreed. Only truth about him is that this is real US, fully corrupted, violent and subservient to Israel.

Posted by: Saraj | May 12 2026 18:23 utc | 19

1415 Tuesday NYC
 

US 5-YR

4,122
 
 

US 10-YR

4,461
 
 

US 30-YR

5,028

 
long end getting crushed today. 

Posted by: Exile | May 12 2026 18:25 utc | 20

One party, highly nationalistic state that represses speech, and a heavily regulate the economy? That’s FASCISM, baby
Posted by: Observer | May 12 2026 18:15 utc | 18
 
Sounds like the US to me…

Posted by: Original Newbie | May 12 2026 18:26 utc | 21

“Communist ideology does not allow for such crap.”
Technical point of order: China is not a communist country.  It is the leading Capitalist country in the world and most importantly it is not yet an Imperialist country, which makes it the best hope for defeating the scourge of Zio Imperialism.  
There is an unfortunate tendency here to accept what countries say about themselves and forgo any serious analysis of how they function, that leads to major errors in perspective.  Venezuela being the most embarrassing example.  
Although I support China and Russia as two non Imperialist countries in conflict with a murderous, genocidal Zio Imperialism, they are both firmly Capitalist.  They both have a ruling class, billionaires, poverty, and they both make profit via the exploitive extraction of surplus value from their working class.  Workers in China and Russia are well aware that this is the case.  
China does have a tremendous welfare state and makes great efforts to mitigate the harshest impacts of Capitalist exploitation on their working class, which has resulted in a situation that is conducive to significant class collaboration and stability.  To a lesser extent, Russia does the same.  That is laudable, as it was when the US had a similar welfare state after the end of WW2 until the early 1970s.  Nonetheless, the existence of a Keynesian welfare system does not abolish Capitalism, it merely makes it more sustainable.  It is a luxury that only the most successful capitalist countries in the world have enjoyed.  China currently has that luxury.  
 

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 12 2026 18:26 utc | 22

I heard his plane is intercepted and now he’s at The Hague on trial for waging a war of aggression against Iran.
 
Remember when Obama went to China, and the Chinese did not bring out any steps or let the plane dock to a gate and Obama had to exit the plane through it’s “ass” using emergency stairs?
 
Did we ever get the parts of the Ebstine files that talk  about the folks who wanted the compromising material? Who did the israelis threaten with release of the compro-mat and what was done by who because compro-mat existed?
 
 

Posted by: Hot Carl | May 12 2026 18:28 utc | 23

But, as President Xi has said, ‘houses are for living’. Communist ideology does not allow for such crap.
 
 
China isn’t communist.
 
One party, highly nationalistic state that represses speech, and a heavily regulate the economy? That’s FASCISM, baby
 
Posted by: Observer | May 12 2026 18:15 utc | 18
China is not Imperialist or fascist.  Only a Zio Imperialist would make such a slander.  But, yes, it is Capitalist not Communist.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 12 2026 18:31 utc | 24

I take a more Dynastic POV. Trump will be treated with the respect a powerful Warlord merits but will face reminders of who is the Emperor and who isn’t. China will say it will conduct its affairs as it sees fit regardless what the declining Warlord says or does. Trump’s physical inability to move about much will limit China’s ability to demonstrate the massive gap in modernity that continues to grow between China and the declining land of the Warlord, but China will provide at least one demonstration. IMO, the business will be that in a nutshell–China’s message to Trump that the Outlaw US Empire is no longer #1 but as befits such a power from China’s POV there’s no need to make Trump grovel or drag him through the mud. It’s possible Trump will be shown a demonstration of what Warwick Powell describes in his latest essay that the following describes:
 

This goes beyond being another semiconductor milestone. It is an instance of what we might term the micro materialities of geopolitics and international relations — the atomic- and nanoscale decisions in materials synthesis that cascade through supply chain systems to reshape EROEI trajectories, informational sovereignty, and the distribution of systemic surplus across nations and blocs. In an era when macro-level analyses of supply chains, alliances, and great-power competition often overlook the substrate beneath the silicon, these micro materialities are becoming decisive.    

 
Of course, Trump will probably not grasp what he’s being shown, but some in his entourage will and then have the unpleasant task of informing him what he was unable to comprehend. Indeed, IMO the entire trip and Summit will be beyond Trump’s comprehension because he doesn’t understand he’s the supplicant, although the overnight temporal nature of the visit suggests that someone in the Trump Gang understands that very well.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 12 2026 18:31 utc | 25

Posted by: Exile | May 12 2026 18:25 utc | 21
 
Notice how base and precious metals are pretty resilient despite long bonds getting crushed and oil floating up. More pressure on bonds = more printing = more money go to hard commodities.

Posted by: unimperator | May 12 2026 18:32 utc | 26

Whether Capitalist or Socialist, China’s political-economy is certainly of China’s design and touts its characteristics, which is how all political-economies ought to be looked at. The primary question Western Macroeconmics textbooks ask at their outset is Who is the economy designed to serve and then tries to sell the BigLie that Western economies aim to serve the greater mass of people, which has never been true. To keep societal peace, mixed economies were established in the West that have so far forestalled social revolt, although that seems to be changing as Neoliberal Parasitism gnaws away at the societal mass–the host. 
 
And as usual, the root of the term communism is ignored–communal as in community. The better term would be communalism or the philosophy of how to advance communal/community activities to benefit their members. When you read the initial constitution of the Chinese Social-Democrats–which is where the Communist Party of China originated–you’ll see that the main goal was to advance the overall status of Chinese society, to unify it and end the Century of Humiliation. And that happens to be the shared goal of both the Kuomintang and CPC, which is why Taiwan will eventually rejoin mainland China. The announced continual goal is the advancement of the overall Chinese community. Xi Jinping has outlined what needs to be done to continue that path: Continual innovation and modernization. Note that those are two attributes Trump never mentions or are advocated by most other Western politicians–the few that do are treated as misfits and outliers.   

Posted by: karlof1 | May 12 2026 18:58 utc | 27

@karlof1 | May 12 2026 18:58 utc | 28
My guess is China is close to the thinking of Sun Yat sen. Who said Marxism is a study of a pathological condition in society but makes the mistake of making that pathological condition permanent. (Not an exact quote)

Posted by: petergrfstrm | May 12 2026 19:16 utc | 28

Trade? Oil? Iran? No!
The main reason Trump is in China. Is to show Xi the plans for his new Ballroom that he always carries in his pocket. 
Nothing else natters.

Posted by: golddigger | May 12 2026 19:17 utc | 29

“Ludi incipiant!” 

“Let the games begin!”
This marked the beginning of gladiatorial combats in ancient Rome.
My popcorn is ready…

 

Posted by: EasternHedgehog | May 12 2026 19:18 utc | 30

Xi will blow warm smoke in DJT’s ear, and then when he leaves, the PRC will do just what they wish to do.
 
They are masters of diplomacy……it will be fun to watch the show!  Buy extra popcorn!

Posted by: tobias cole | May 12 2026 19:28 utc | 31

Wow, seems like may have forgotten that China practices (in their own words) “socialism with Chinese characteristics.”
 
I think China allowing the visit to go ahead, with a possibility of agreeing to some token “deals” with the US is part of the wider strategy the both China and Russia realize they must pursue, if there’s really going to be a transition to a multipolar/multinodal international system; the US is like a twenty-something year old with a million bucks, a loaded grenade launcher and a crack addiction, while China and Russia are two reasonable adults trying to coax/manage the twenty something back to a semblance a civility. A very touch and go situation which can go sideways fairly easy, with explosive (pun well intended) consequences for everyone.

Posted by: robjira | May 12 2026 19:28 utc | 32

maybe china can give trump a gold plated soother to stick in his yap… would that keep him happy? or does some freakin’ statue of himself at his private golf course have to be replicated??/ what a self centered retard he is… all you americans are probably embarrassed, and i get it!!! 
 
the chinese are only doing this to keep trump from having a little baby tantrum, lol… 
 
this is a reflection of how the multipolar world is progressing…. the unipolar reality is shown for the sham it is at this point… 250 years and it’s ova….  

Posted by: james | May 12 2026 19:29 utc | 33

golddigger 30 – very funny and very true.  As long as the New Ballroom and the Grand Arch and the massive military parade on July 4th are completed, he will be a happy camper!

Posted by: tobias cole | May 12 2026 19:30 utc | 34

What China is implementing is called “New Economic Policy”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Economic_Policy

Posted by: p3t3r | May 12 2026 19:41 utc | 35

petergrfstrm | May 12 2026 19:16 utc | 29
 
Yes, Dr. Sun was the father of both KMT and CPC and is revered by both. The divergence occurs with Chaing Kai-shek since he viewed government much as Trump does–as a money-making opportunity in the mold of the classic Chinese Warlord. Generals Stillwell and Marshall described Chaing and his Gang as exactly that–a criminal gang–who had no policy aimed at bettering the common Chinese, which is why the CPC was favored by the people. And the generals’s opinion is why the USG didn’t provide the KMT with the support needed to win. Today’s equivalent to Chaing is Zelensky.  

Posted by: karlof1 | May 12 2026 19:54 utc | 36

US is fortunate tbat Hua Chunying is promoted up the Foreign Ministry and no longer the spokesperson for the Foreign Ministry. She’s well known for a Cheshire Cat grin as she makes some caustic statements.

Posted by: Surferket | May 12 2026 19:59 utc | 37

“But, as President Xi has said, ‘houses are for living’. Communist ideology does not allow for such crap.”
Mmmh , yes and no , Communism is the cause , materialist existentialism is the consequence. The gift of “the reds” to philosophy is often regarded with condescendance by the capitalists… whose ultimate form are travelling with DJT … without understanding really in what mindspace they are gonna land. ^^

Posted by: Hiro Masamune | May 12 2026 20:00 utc | 38

Consider again who’s accompanying Trump from the US side: Tech oligarchs and hedge-fund decision-makers. 
 
What you’re seeing is a desperate attempt by the US-based ultra-rich to get a toe-hold in China. Their poker hand has been busted, and now they have to take what they can get, and on bad terms.
 
It is, was, and will be about who gets what part of the pie.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 12 2026 20:12 utc | 39

Posted by: Hot Carl | May 12 2026 18:28 utc | 24

You got that wrong. China, as host, would never insult a guest. It was entirely an Obama stunt to accuse China of insulting him.

Staircase Incident
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2014484/staircase-snub-obama-was-united-states-decision-reveals

Posted by: Surferket | May 12 2026 20:16 utc | 40

China has spent 60+ years carefully Anglo-America-proofing itself. It would be remiss of Xi to ‘forget’ to acquaint Trump with this Reality.
 

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 12 2026 20:17 utc | 41

A “reliable source” may publish something that contradicts the official narrative. This is when the censorship machine starts working in overdrive.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | May 12 2026 17:17 utc | 6
 

Xi will be prepared. He will have the RAND report on his desk, both in English and Chinese language copies. Xi will argue, that the US has no cards to play. They have no other option, but peaceful coexistence and fair economic and technological competition.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | May 12 2026 18:08 utc | 16

 
Did you actually read the report or did you make your own assumptions based on the misleading title?
 
It’s the usual drivel from RAND and the other right-wing think tanks who are either arguing that Russia is the lesser threat and therefore China should be attacked first, or that China and Russia are easier to manage if Iran is subjugated first etc. RAND is simply arguing that China is not a priority, for now. “Stabilizing” in this context doesn’t mean peaceful coexistence, it means making China drop their guard and delaying the conflict with China for as long as it’s needed for America to muster the forces necessary to defeat China.
 
From Stabilizing the U.S.-China Rivalry:

This report assesses possible means of stabilizing the U.S.-China rivalry.
 
(page 55)
Moreover, efforts to trigger stabilizing dynamics are complicated by the fact that China perceives the United States as in decline and China on an inexorable rise to global leadership. Its view of the world is also colored by a sense of itself as the preeminent civilization, a society to whom others owe some degree of natural deference. This is, it must be realized, an inherent problem when dealing with a rising, self-confident great power with expansive conceptions of its role in world politics. Such powers will tend to view any concessions to their demands as simply appropriate recognition of what Chinese sources often describe as “rightful” claims—steps that are entirely justified on their own terms and require no meaningful response.
 
Beijing also tends to link rather than separate issues, which creates another notably difficulty in pursuing discrete channels of stabilization. During the Cold War, the Soviet Union was willing to compartmentalize—to pursue arms control while undertaking proxy wars in Africa, for example—in ways that allowed the two sides to pursue stability in some areas while competing fiercely in others. China tends to link issues rather than separating them—cancelling climate dialogues, for example, in retaliation for a visit of the U.S. House Speaker to Taiwan, and demanding relief from export controls as the price for a deeper dialogue on AI safety. Picking off individual targets of opportunity is very difficult given such an approach by one side.
 
Partly as a result of these constraints, we did not seek to develop an agenda of grand accommodations or cooperation spirals. Our approach here is transactional and issue-specific rather than catalytic—seeking to ease the mutual paranoia and hostility of the relationship in important ways, but not ones that will necessarily generate broad-based processes of cooperation. Moreover, our theory of stabilization fully recognizes that, from a U.S. standpoint, sustaining the credibility of U.S. commitments and deterrent power is an essential ingredient in stability, and that any initiative must take seriously its potential to signal to Beijing that the United States is becoming exhausted with the competition. Many of the proposals below, in fact, speak to the value of clarifying red lines or enhancing deterrence as part of this agenda.
 
(page 80, RAND’s stabilization proposal for the South China Sea)
Based on these assumptions, one plausible theory of success would combine deterrence of military escalation with intensified multilateral and bilateral diplomacy to create a medium-term route to a peaceful solution as the default international process and expectation. Under such a theory, the focus of short- and medium-term stabilization efforts would be to (1) deter any claimants or other actors in the region from undertaking direct military aggression to achieve their goals, through a combination of military power and multilateral signaling; (2) discourage other claimants from taking provocative actions on secondary issues that would force Beijing’s hand and produce crises; (3) initiate new processes of multilateral and bilateral diplomacy to create a default and required route to peaceful unification of disputes; (4) create new multilateral cooperative bodies on shared threats and issues, whether or not China will join them; and (5) rally broad-based international support for these processes, including signaling about the unacceptability of the use of force to resolve disputes or threaten free maritime transit.
 
This theory of success reflects the six principles of stabilization outlined in Chapter 2.

 
The RAND Corporation’s solution to de-escalate South China Sea tensions is to have the American military deter all claimants, including China, and to keep a tight leash on the regional American attack dog, the Philippines, so that it doesn’t trigger a conflict with China when America isn’t ready yet. This is the standard operating procedure of the global military hegemon, America. Nothing new is being proposed here.
 
 
 
On the topic of China being a communist country:
 
China is a communist country operating a socialist economy with the aim of attaining communism.

 
The last point needs to be expanded further because a lot of Americans are confused by the fact that remnant capitalist elements exist within China and use it to brand China as capitalist.
 
Marx’s 1875 Critique of the Gotha Programme explicitly states that a communist society will inevitably bear capitalist features in its initial stages:

What we have to deal with here is a communist society, not as it has developed on its own foundations, but, on the contrary, just as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect, economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it emerges.

 
Lenin also knew socialism will contain bits of capitalism in it, which can be seen in his 1917 Can We Go Forward If We Fear To Advance Towards Socialism?:

For socialism is merely the next step forward from state-capitalist monopoly. Or, in other words, socialism is merely state-capitalist monopoly which is made to serve the interests of the whole people and has to that extent ceased to be capitalist monopoly.

 
In China’s description of its own system (linked above), it clearly outlined its differences from the bastardized notion of “socialism” common among Americans:

The term “socialism” is often understood differently. In the United States, for instance, progressive Democrats are often branded by Republicans as “socialists.” But what they advocate is different from both Marxist socialism and the ideology upheld and the system taken by China. To these Democrats, private ownership and market economy are still considered the main body of U.S. institutions, even though they push for more government control over the economy.
 
It’s rather plain and simple – no matter how far progressives go, they never depart from those two principles. This, however, leaves ground for people to sow doubt about the way China works. But anyone who has been to China and approaches it without bias would draw the conclusion that China is nowhere near a system that Westerners are so unfamiliar with.

 
It is a conscious American strategy to associate all that is good, such as China’s achievements, with capitalism so that

  • China’s successes are subordinated as America’s successes because America is the global center of capitalism, and
  • a global revolution that overturns capitalism is prevented, which is to the advantage of Americans who are the biggest beneficiaries of capitalism.

 
Death to America
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ

Posted by: All Under Heaven | May 12 2026 20:19 utc | 42

Blocking high end chips from China is a sure winner. Not.

China is pushing their AI companies to use Huawei chips. Just common sense to avoid the deliberate backdoors in those US chips.
NVIDEA boss is not on this trip.

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/huawei-could-seize-chinas-ai-chip-crown-in-2026-as-nvidias-h200-shipments-stall-in-regulatory-limbo-beijing-pushes-homegrown-ai-hardware-dominance-in-a-market-projected-to-hit-usd67-billion-by-2030

Posted by: Surferket | May 12 2026 20:21 utc | 43

This is the team going along with the Orange turd. 
1. Timm Cook, Apple2. Larry Fink, BlackRock3. Stephen Schwarzman, Blackstone4. Kelly Ortberg, Boeing5. Brian Sikes, Cargill6. Jane Fraser, Citi7. Jim Anderson, Coherent8. H.Lawrence Culp, GE Aerospace9. David Solomon, Goldman Sachs10. Jacob Thaysen, Illumina11. Michael Miebach, Mastercard12. Dina Powell McCormick, Meta13. Sanjay Mehrotra, Micron14. Christiano Amon, Qualcomm15. Elon Musk, Tesla/SpaceX16. Ryan Mcinerney, Visa

Posted by: Suresh | May 12 2026 20:26 utc | 44

It is, was, and will be about who gets what part of the pie.
 
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 12 2026 20:12 utc | 41
 

 
Here is how it works.  It begins with Capitalist grandees privatizing some part of the Commons.  Then the tendency of the rate of profit to fall obliges them to sell their Privatized capital.  It occurs that the Chinese can buy these depreciated assets.
 
The proof of the buyers being good Communists rests with them returning what the Capitalists privatized to the Commons.
 
Trump’s entourage is selling.
 

Posted by: too scents | May 12 2026 20:28 utc | 45

I forgot to comment on RAND’s mention of the Soviet Union, a passage which I highlighted:
 
America wants China to follow the failed strategy of the Soviet Union, where the Soviets allowed themselves to be divided and conquered by America into oblivion.
 
Politics and economics are inextricably intertwined. That’s why all communists are political economists. It’s funny that RAND brought up “climate dialogues” and “export controls” in the same sentence. If climate was such a priority, why not allow China to export its EVs to America? Oh wait, that makes the issue of climate change and economics linked, and that’s bad according to RAND. Terrible, horrible, no good, very bad. America just wants China to sanction and hobble China itself by using climate change as an excuse: “You must not outcompete us in these industries, or feed too much protein to the Chinese people making them grow up big and strong, or build a military capable of securing your own borders against American aggression because it’d be bad for the environment!”
 
Death to America
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ

Posted by: All Under Heaven | May 12 2026 20:33 utc | 46

Some labels say what it reads.
Fascism.
Zionists.
Nazis.
Capitalism.
 
Others have been completely distorted, misrepresented or lied.
Communism.
Marxists.
 
But none more malign than Socialism. The one thing common to all countries destroyed/sanctioned/terrorised by the U$ Corp Inc.

Posted by: Suresh | May 12 2026 20:44 utc | 47

This 1-day summit might delay phase 2 of the Iran War from commencing until this weekend. I kind of hope USrael escalates so Iran can go ahead and escalate. Israel has to be defeated at some point to end world terror and genocide and once America escalates Iran can go ahead and remove America from the battlefield/chess board and turn its attention to the real evil emperor, Israel.

Posted by: GMST | May 12 2026 20:49 utc | 48

Didn’t make sense to me as I am well trained in the western ways of zero sum. Why have a pointless meeting?!
 
Because it is only pointless in the short term. If I squeeze my propaganda marinated brain real hard then I can almost see the long term point in diplomacy by default.
 
 
If your end goal is not genocide then you play nice because you will have to live with your enemy.

Posted by: Rae | May 12 2026 20:57 utc | 49

I can envison a lego video where Xi is the “soup nazi”, and Trump is in line with other people to match the parts of Seinfeld, Kramer, George, Elaine, Uncle Leo; waiting in line to get a bowl of “rare earth soup”. Character matchups:
 
Seinfeld- Marco Rubio
Kramer-Howard Lutnick
George- Donald Trump
Elaine-Tulsi Gabbard
Newman-Stepan Mirron
Add Putin, Khameini, Kim Jong-il, Castro…..in the line;   they do get the soup!!

Posted by: Norsk Borscht | May 12 2026 21:11 utc | 50

China had no particular reason to keep Trump happy. Trumpistan is waging war against China only one step below the level of waging war against Russia (proxy military war) and Iran (direct military war). Nothing Trump says or signs is of any significance in any case; he will change his mind in ten minutes anyway.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | May 12 2026 21:19 utc | 51

“I kind of hope USrael escalates so Iran can go ahead and escalate.”

 
[Posted by: GMST | May 12 2026 20:49 utc | 50]
 
So do I, now that Iran has finally stated what I have been waiting since February to hear:
 

BREAKING:
 
🇮🇷 Iranian parliament will consider to make a Nuclear bomb
 
If the US attacks us again, we will enrich uranium to the level of a nuclear bomb – Ebrahim Rezaei, spokesperson for Iran’s parliamentary National Security announced 
 
The Iranian parliament will consider increasing the level of uranium enrichment to 90% in the event of a new attack by the US, said MP Ebrahim Rezaei. 
 
Nuclear power plants usually require uranium enriched to 3 to 5%, while nuclear weapons require a level of 90%.
 
This threat comes after US media reported that Donald Trump is considering new attacks on Iran to weaken its negotiating position.

 
Source:
https://x.com/i/status/2054166033284415923
 
But for Khamenei Sr’s fatwa, which was a millstone around Iran’s neck, this should have happened the moment Trump tore up the JCPOA.
 
And,  yes, I’m feeling very vindicated.
 
Worthless MoA bottom feeders who kept attacking me for saying Iran needs nuclear weapons can go pound sand.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | May 12 2026 21:27 utc | 52

Why do Xi or Putin entertain this idiot???  I don’t get it.   

Posted by: $outhpaw | May 12 2026 21:31 utc | 53

Ole cancerous ChuckE Sleaze was able to deliver a speech that slapped Ole Orange Cankles, (nothing like a well-considered backhanded complimentary slap) and because it was all delivered in a pompous Upper English accent, The Orange rolled in it, like a dog rolls in shit, delighting at the fetid “perfume”, while everyone around groans.

I’m looking forward to the Chinese pulling off a similar stunt.
Telling Trump he’s affluent effluent, and him thinking they admire his ostentatious faux gold.
Yes, the Chinese think I’m effluent. I’m the Most Effluent guy, I’m Bigly Effluent.   The Chinese said they’ve never met a more effluent guy

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2026 21:35 utc | 54

Worthless MoA bottom feeders who kept attacking me for saying Iran needs nuclear weapons can go pound sand.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | May 12 2026 21:27 utc | 55
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Look, Mr. “Can’t wait for the mushroom clouds!” Purkayastha, the fact that one person in Iran, who may be the spokesperson for Iran’s parliamentary National Security something-or-other, says they’re ready to enrich to 90% (and presumably start making nukes) does not convince me that the fatwa against nuclear weapons has been finally rescinded and that the entire ruling body is on board with this decision.
 
We’ve seen this kind of dissension within Iran’s leadership before, recently. So don’t get your jammies all in an uproar in anticipation of WWIII, nuclear winter, etc., etc., just yet.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | May 12 2026 21:36 utc | 55

Why do Xi or Putin entertain this idiot???  I don’t get it.   
Posted by: $outhpaw | May 12 2026 21:31 utc | 58
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It’s called “diplomacy”, an almost-lost art that the Chinese excel at and which the Americans are clueless about.
 
It’s how “civilized” nations are supposed to get along with each other.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | May 12 2026 21:38 utc | 56

Mr. “Can’t wait for the mushroom clouds!” Purkayastha,

 
[Posted by: George the Zeroth | May 12 2026 21:36 utc | 61]
 
And this is exactly why you are a worthless bottom feeder, Georgie:
 
You’re too stupid to understand the difference between Iran having a nuclear arsenal to prevent your zionazi masters from attacking it and Iran nuking anyone. 

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | May 12 2026 21:39 utc | 57

BTW, just to put a finer edge on it, diplomacy ≠ deal-making.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | May 12 2026 21:41 utc | 58

You’re too stupid to understand the difference between Iran having a nuclear arsenal to prevent your zionazi masters from attacking it and Iran nuking anyone. 
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | May 12 2026 21:39 utc | 64
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I’ll take the fact that you stooped to ad hominem insult as an indication of your holding a losing hand here.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | May 12 2026 21:44 utc | 59

Posted by: Surferket | May 12 2026 20:16 utc | 42
staircase incident.
 
thanks. That makes sense.  At the time I wondered about that, as the Chinese IMVHO would not so openly display rudeness.
 
at the time I thought it was a stunt to show up the Chinese as bumbling and disorganised…. Unable to supply a simple set of runway stairs.
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2026 21:46 utc | 60

by the way: there is still the posiblitiy to get the mRNA death shots  even if You have to pay today…
Posted by: COViDiOT | May 12 2026 21:45 utc | 69
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[groan]
 
I got the mRNA “death shots”. Several of them, in fact..
Ain’t dead yet. As Mark Twain said, the reports of my death are highly exaggerated.
 
Next conspiracy theory, please.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | May 12 2026 21:48 utc | 61

Worthless MoA bottom feeders who kept attacking me for saying Iran needs nuclear weapons can go pound sand.
 
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | May 12 2026 21:27 utc | 55
You’re right.  They need nukes.  It’s the only thing that gives the Zio Imperialists pause.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 12 2026 21:55 utc | 62

Trump on Iran War:
 
Reporter: What extent are Americans’ financial situation motivating you to make a deal?
 
Trump: Not even a little bit. I don’t think about Americans’ financial situation
 
 
https://xcancel.com/Acyn/status/2054262313788768765

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2026 21:59 utc | 63

You’re too stupid to understand the difference between Iran having a nuclear arsenal to prevent your zionazi masters from attacking it and Iran nuking anyone.
 
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | May 12 2026 21:39 utc | 64

 
Against whom would Iran use those nukes? Nukes aren’t a deterrent if you’re not capable of and willing to use them — and call down your own obliteration in the bargain.

Posted by: malenkov | May 12 2026 22:01 utc | 64

Posted by: All Under Heaven | May 12 2026 20:19 utc | 44
Oh!  The anti worker genocide king is back to tell us why Lenin loved Capitalism so much he called it Socialism!  I recall he was quoting Lenin as supportive of genocide too, but not a genocide of the Zio Imperialists.  No, no.  AUH says he wanted a genocide of the working class!  Who wants to buy a bridge?
Again I’m pleased that this right wing misanthropic Israeli Jew feels the need to misquote Lenin and Marx to sell his push for a genocidal national/racial war.  Good omen.  
That said, just read anything, literally anything Lenin or Marx wrote (the whole thing, not this creep’s hot takes) and you’ll see that both rejected racial and national struggle completely.  They both make very clear what Capitalism is and what it’s antitheses, Communism, is.  They call for a class struggle civil war in every nation, especially in the heart of Imperialist countries against the ruling class or bourgeois, as they say.  
But don’t take my word for it, brothers.  Read them.  
AUH is testicular cancer.  He’s long held the black spot.  Those that interact with it are immediately suspect as agents of Zio Imperialism seeking to aid a fellow sock.  
Carry on….

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 12 2026 22:08 utc | 65

You’re right.  They need nukes.  It’s the only thing that gives the Zio Imperialists pause.  
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 12 2026 21:55 utc | 72
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So are you claiming that Iran’s use of conventional weapons hasn’t given them pause?
 
Recent history seems to suggest otherwise.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | May 12 2026 22:20 utc | 66

@37
 
George C Marshall tried to retire immediately after VJ Day.  Truman sent him on a mission to China.  He spent time with Chiang as well as with Zhou en-Lai.  I do not recall he spent much time with Mao.
 
At the time US had a large troop concentration in China:  monitoring the Japan army not yet repatriated, disposing of Japanese weapons and managing delivery of US surplus in theater weapons to Chiang.  US notionally supported Chiang.  Stalin was hesitant to get too involved for CPC/Mao.  Mao had arms supplied by US to fight the Japanese.
 
Marhall thought the Chiang regime reactionary, not very democratic, and corrupt in the tradition Chinese war-lord/Rentier over the peasantry mode.
 
The background issue was increasing US military presence and expanding their mission to combat for Chiang.
 
Marshall sent messages opposing direct US involvement in the civil war.  Truman approved and the rest is history.  US could have spent 20 odd years propping Chiang, like it did in Saigon!
 
McCarthy did go after Marshall!

Posted by: paddy | May 12 2026 22:28 utc | 67

paddy | May 12 2026 22:28 utc | 78
 
In the Fall of 1949, the major political question was screamed Who Lost China? The answer was Chinese Gangsterism, the reality few are willing to admit even today. 

Posted by: karlof1 | May 12 2026 22:53 utc | 68

I think it is better to say China will keep Trump “foolishly” happy. If he thinks he can roll the Chinese he is seriously mistaken. They are not going to fall for this buffoon but they will be polite and rigidly diplomatic.  He’ll brag on about how successful he has been with China after but that is how it always is with him, he’ll simply lie to the people back home and  not much will have changed in the US’s favour.
 
Meanwhile Russia’s 35,000 km nuclear capable hypersonic Sarmat is ready and fully tested. If US thinks it can win a nuclear war now with virtually no air defence for its own country it is seriously joking. Sarmat could also use other potent warheads too to do a lot of massive damage to a number of US big cities in one go. 
 
 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | May 12 2026 22:57 utc | 69

Trump – Xi: “Do ut des” (I give you so that you give me). They will discuss American oligarchs’ interests in China vs global Chinese ones. It is worth to read Shuzhen below:
https://cloudwoods1.substack.com/p/whose-head-shall-it-be-xi-jinping
The elite talking to the elite. Disgusting.

Posted by: Emi | May 12 2026 22:57 utc | 70

Posted by: karlof1 | May 12 2026 22:53 utc | 79
 
The book Formosa Betrayed written by an American stationed on the island post war gives a full rendition of how that played out in Taiwan with Chiang Kai Shek’s corrupt thugs. In those days the US proclaimed Taiwan was “China First” (Chinese first). Just up until Mao won the civil war. 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | May 12 2026 23:03 utc | 71

China is moving to 6G and not waiting for the rest of the world.

Machine translated

Recently, the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology officially approved the use of 6G test frequencies in the 6GHz frequency band and approved the national IMT-2030 (6G) promotion team to conduct 6G field trials, marking that China’s 6G R & D has fully entered the real-world stage from laboratory testing.

The approved 6G band, specifically 6425-7125MHz, a total of 700MHz continuous bandwidth, known as the industry’s “golden spectrum.” It is currently considered the best frequency band globally.

More significantly, China has made clear its position that it will no longer blindly wait for international standards, and will no further passively rely on international cooperation and catering to the international market, and will adhere to independent research and development, independent control and independent standards, and 100% independent control of core technologies and core components, and achieve commercial use by 2030.

With the advent of the 6G era, countries in the world have their own reactions, Japan and South Korea choose to hold together, the United States is very anxious, and India is greatly confident, claiming to lead the global 6G.

Several Japanese carriers and South Korea SK Telecom recently made a lot of joint statements, Samsung, Softbank also signed R & D cooperation, looking very bluffing. But if you look closely at the data, you see.Japan’s 6G patents account for less than 10% of the world, and South Korea is about 8%.Bring it out. everybody almost wanted to.

Read more:

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/wry_4JOexZUNBS1DUKTzVg

Posted by: Surferket | May 12 2026 23:03 utc | 72

Surprisingly many really think US is “negotiating” at peace talks.

“Trump dismissed Iran’s response since it wasn’t a ‘letter of surrender’: Official

The United States rejected Iran’s latest peace proposal solely because it was not a “letter of surrender,” a senior Iranian diplomat has said, noting that Washington seeks to impose its will through intimidation and pressure rather than building genuine peace.”

@PressTV

https://t.me/presstv/189586

Posted by: Surferket | May 12 2026 23:23 utc | 73

Real diplomacy would seem to require that a leader points out that “he’s” an idiot who has no place being a head of state.
No room for honesty and frankness in negotiations???   Then they’re useless.  trump has evolved into a babbling idiot.

Posted by: $outhpaw | May 12 2026 23:24 utc | 74

Posted by: Emi | May 12 2026 22:57 utc | 81
 
An anti-Chinese propaganda piece trying to make X i Jinping appear no different to Trump. 
 
The difference between Xi Jinping and Trump is that China does something about greedy elites and corruption (especially in the military), Trump aids and abets it in the US and is a big part of its continuation and worsening as well.

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | May 12 2026 23:24 utc | 75

Surferket | May 12 2026 23:03 utc | 83
 
Is 6g tower or low orbit satellite? I thought I read some years back China was already testing sat mobile phone and that was to be 6g.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2026 23:26 utc | 76

Is 6g tower or low orbit satellite? I thought I read some years back China was already testing sat mobile phone and that was to be 6g.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2026 23:26 utc | 87
 
I should have been more specific on that. R&D type testing rather than prototype testing.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2026 23:28 utc | 77

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2026 23:26 utc | 87
 
I read it was the case in some major Chinese cities within their CBDs. But not beyond that.

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | May 12 2026 23:28 utc | 78

Trump’s entourage is selling. 
Posted by: too scents | May 12 2026 20:28 utc | 47
 
***********************
 
Trump’s entourage is selling telling. ( FIFY 🙂 )
 
It tells us clearly, without a word being spoken, what Trump’s focus and priorities are.
 
Imagine if President Xi brought an entourage headed by Jack Ma to the US for a state visit, or President Putin bought a team headed by Igor Kolomoisky… What would the rest of the World think?

Posted by: General Factotum | May 12 2026 23:34 utc | 79

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2026 23:28 utc | 88

6G is tower based as all mobile networks.
Xiaomi 14/15 Ultra mobile handphones has satellite call capabilities build-in. Other premium phones also have that capability. It’s more a safety feature for those hiking in remote places where phone signals are absent.

Chinese mobile networks is a state initiative so even remote mountain tops will have a tower and overall China has good 5G coverage. 4G mobile is phased out so all phones sold are 5G. 4G is limited to SIM data cards for stuff like iPads. Even CCTV cameras now use 4G instead of wired. Makes sense from manufacturing standpoint.

Posted by: Surferket | May 12 2026 23:39 utc | 80

Posted by: General Factotum | May 12 2026 23:34 utc | 90
 
Exactly – Jack Ma found out the hard way how US-style billionaire influence attempting to run the country got the cold shoulder.

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | May 12 2026 23:40 utc | 81

Posted by: General Factotum | May 12 2026 23:34 utc | 90

Jack Ma is just a private person in China now. He’s free to enter or leave.

Posted by: Surferket | May 12 2026 23:40 utc | 82

Marg bar Ignorance
Posted by: All Under Heaven | May 12 2026 20:19 utc | 44
 
+1
 
Cheese and chalk

Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 12 2026 23:59 utc | 83

Real diplomacy would seem to require that a leader points out that “he’s” an idiot who has no place being a head of state.No room for honesty and frankness in negotiations???   Then they’re useless.  trump has evolved into a babbling idiot.
Posted by: $outhpaw | May 12 2026 23:24 utc | 85
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Heh; what you’re suggesting is pretty much the tack that Trotsky took as the lead negotiator at Brest-Litovsk on behalf of the Bolsheviks. LD dispensed with the usual niceties and let the German team, much senior and more experienced than he, have it in the face with both barrels.
 
It almost worked. It sure as hell unnerved the German diplomats there.
 
No, the Chinese are apparently playing the game pretty much by the book. Good for them. This is the kind of race that a tortoise can win.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | May 12 2026 23:59 utc | 84

What would the rest of the World think?
Posted by: General Factotum | May 12 2026 23:34 utc | 90
 
Who cares? Collectively it’s not properly equipped to “think”. 

Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 13 2026 0:00 utc | 85

@   76
 
The Chalk

Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 13 2026 0:05 utc | 86

Global Fascist Capitalism 101
 
1937 version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn0t8-5WPRI&t=405s  Pre-CPC

Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 13 2026 0:10 utc | 87

Yanis @ Econoclast commented that Trump’s favourite oilmen (Shale) need prices above $65 pb but less than $95.
 
There’s just 2 ways this can go, either urging China to forego Iran to have another crack militarily or appeal to China to influence face saving concessions from Iran.
 
Just wondering how many of those CEOs heading over are currently breaking China’s new law on illegal sanctions?
 
I guess we just have to wait and see but the only certainty is Trump is going in with no cards, marbles or clue.

Posted by: Suresh | May 13 2026 0:11 utc | 88

“Worthless MoA bottom feeders”   
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | May 12 2026 21:27 utc | 55
 
What B dislikes:  Personal attacks on other commentators.
 
Source https://www.moonofalabama.org/2026/04/meta-on-moa-moderation.html 

Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 13 2026 0:20 utc | 89

Rare minerals blockade vs. oil blockade
Trump goes to Beijing as a begging visitor, looking to (1) unblock the rare minerals blockade, and (2) finding a patsy buyer for the 1800 billion dollarbucks bonds the US Treasury has to issue before September to pay for the same amount of debt maturing.
 
The 4 aces he believes he has in his sleeves is just a pair of 2 : the US can’t blockade Hormuz for the Chinese tankers. The Chinese ships have Chinese insurance, which means they can be militarized (antiship missiles).
 
Good luck stopping that in international waters. The Chinese military is embedded in anything strategic. Shipment and oil is strategic.
 
Xi agrees to meet with the buffoon so that he can deliver one message unfiltered to the potus ears : any moron ship trying to stop a Chinese ship in international waters will be politely asked to float by itself.

Posted by: Asian Frog | May 13 2026 0:20 utc | 90

Surferket | May 12 2026 23:39 utc | 91
 
Thanks. China is sure forging ahead in the coms. Some years ago, I think at the time 5g was being rolled out, I watched a video on a large Chinese excavator factory. Could have been Sany. They were already producing excavators that could be operated either from the cab or remotely via 5g.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 13 2026 0:21 utc | 91

Why do Xi or Putin entertain this idiot???  I don’t get it.   
Posted by: $outhpaw | May 12 2026 21:31 utc | 58
 
Trump is the official representative of the USA. As President he is commander in chief and dictates foreign policy. In these responsibilities he is almost all-powerful. 

Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 13 2026 0:22 utc | 92

Has Trump lost Kagan, or is it just Kabuki. The ISW is the defacto PNAC left 

Posted by: steve | May 13 2026 0:23 utc | 93

 agents of Zio Imperialism seeking to aid a fellow sock.    
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 12 2026 22:08 utc | 76
 
to prevent your zionazi masters from   
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | May 12 2026 21:39 utc | 64   
 
 
When you have no intelligent arguments, birds of feather coalesce on vapid accusations against other commentators instead. 
 
It’s good to label those who label

Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 13 2026 0:30 utc | 94

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 13 2026 0:21 utc | 102

China’s autonomous ports.
https://highways.today/2025/10/20/chinas-smart-ports/

Even traffic lights countdown shows up on our Chinese map apps if you’re near them! Thanks to 5G technology.

Posted by: Surferket | May 13 2026 0:42 utc | 95

“Worthless MoA bottom feeders”   Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | May 12 2026 21:27 utc | 55

 
If only you were nuclear armed, up with such insolence you would not have to put. :-p

Posted by: ChatNPC | May 13 2026 0:46 utc | 96

Robert Kagan the intellectual founder of neoconservative interventism and also co-founder of PNAC ( Conservative think tank that dominated US foreign policy for decades ) that he admitted the war with Iran he advocated for his entire life is a strategic defeat. 
 
He added that the defeat in Iran is not Afghanistan, Vietnam type of defeat but this is a defeat that will cause irreversible damage to America’s position in the world.
 
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/2026/05/iran-war-trump-losing/687094/
 
It seems like all the thinkers, geopolitical analysts finally all come together to agree with my position since the first day of the war that the Iran War is a Defeat. 

Posted by: KillerDoll | May 13 2026 0:48 utc | 97

Look, Mr. “Can’t wait for the mushroom clouds!” Purkayastha
 
So don’t get your jammies all in an uproar in anticipation of WWIII, nuclear winter, etc., etc., just yet.
 
Posted by: George the Zeroth | May 12 2026 21:36 utc | 61
 
This is sooooo not what bis wants or has even said. 
 
Imo he thinks the nk “solution” to not being stone aged again, was to go nuclear. It worked so far there. Right?  I think iran will choose differently.
 
That said the 99% enrichment thing suggests there may be wiggle room for the son on the nuclear bomb portfolio. So score one for bis. 
 
In case u missed it in other thread bis. 
 
Your stuff is funny man.
 
Thanks
 
 

Posted by: Tannenhouser | May 13 2026 0:51 utc | 98

One of the big stories of the 21st century is that a managed economy (China) is currently routing Capital to the productive sectors better a less-managed economy (USA) does.  The supposed ‘communist’ s less rentier.  Contrary to expectations the ‘capitalist’ economy is the one with more parasites.
 
A consequence of this is the ‘-ism’ labeling is out of date. Yes, what you do matters but also what matters is who you are and how you do it.  
 
The second thing that matterd is now what various sometime civilizations will become. Vs in the past, when much more was static.
 
As far the fancy 15+_ jetting to China with the grotesque Trump; they are mostly worthless baggage. The trip has evolved into a Western begging bowl. What is that, 11 of 15 are software or financials?  Visa & Mastercard the most meaningless of all. The world was happy using their services until project Ukraine. now that is over thanks to US policies.
 
If I was China I would the get the entire 16 in a room.  Then tell them all straight out  Apple in China is going to be tariffed unless the USA removes some tariffs (right now AFAIK Iphones made in a factory in China are competing w Huawei and Xiaomi selling phones in China). After that I would serve the lot of them Chinese tea and some local snacks. While mentioning the  airport several times.

Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | May 13 2026 1:04 utc | 99

From the FBI Director Kash Patel X account
 

Iran will inevitably release some very private, adult pictures of me that they hacked from my former Gmail account, and they will undoubtedly photoshopped to make it seem like I am poorly endowed uncircumcised while a photoshopped naked Cuban man behind me as I bend over. But that’s false, and I relish the opportunity to prove otherwise.

😉 This is a joke

Posted by: KillerDoll | May 13 2026 1:05 utc | 100