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May 29, 2026
The Real Reason Why Russia Invaded Ukraine – by English Outsider

by English Outsider 

lifted from a comment

Ma Laoshi – grateful to you for finding that Scott Ritter piece.

Terror and Mental War

First things first.  Ritter’s no fool and, as you’d expect, identifies the trigger that set off the SMO:

“… a rejuvenated Ukrainian military, specifically trained and equipped by NATO, positioned itself to resolve the Donbas question through military force. This in turn triggered the Russian intervention in the form of the Special Military Operation.

It’s not trivial that Ritter does that.  Any discussion of this war is bedeviled by the fact that most of those opposed to Western policy in Ukraine get the reasons for the Russian invasion of Ukraine wrong.  They think the SMO resulted from a decision in the Kremlin to finally put a stop to NATO encroachment, not, primarily,  from a decision to pre-empt a Kiev incursion into the Donbass.

That may seem a simple point but you’ve no idea how disabling this error is.  The influential opponents of the war with Russia in the US, Germany, UK, have a gaping hole at the very centre of their argument.  We see this, as one example, with Diesen.  One of the finest and most level-headed opponents of the war that we have in Europe – but all over the place when it comes to explaining why the Russians are fighting us!

Professor Diesen joins Professors Roberts and Mearsheimer and a host of other authoritative sources who get that Russian invasion of Ukraine wrong.  Seriously wrong, as most of the big names do.  According to Diesen, that Russian invasion was a “war of aggression with unpredictable consequences”, an “egregious violation of state sovereignty”.    The fact that the last thing Putin wanted to do was send his tanks across the border, went to considerable lengths to avoid doing that, and in the end was given no option but to act fast to prevent the Kiev forces running amok in the Donbass, has passed unnoticed by many of the big names and I suspect always will.

That’s a hole a mile wide, therefore, dead in the centre of the argument against current Western policy in the Ukraine.  “The Russians were in the wrong starting the SMO but are in the right at the same time because NATO.”  No wonder the authoritative dissident figures in the West get so little traction with the general public.  On the one hand they state that the Russians were 100% in the wrong starting a “war of aggression”.  On the other they argue that the Russian cause is just.   That’s a real mess of an argument that you might expect to get away with with an audience already sympathetically inclined.  Joe Public can  smell a rat a mile off and is having none of it.

Ritter’s got more sense.  He doesn’t twist himself into knots arguing that black is white.  He’s a direct and forceful man and if he thought that the Russians were in the wrong starting their SMO he’d be saying so load and clear, not trying to pretend they were in the wrong and at the same time in the right.   But he knows the reason for the SMO – one that so many of  the others fail to grasp – and is therefore able to put forward a coherent argument condemning Western policy in the Ukraine. …


b here:

The above is a very important point. Russia did not want to invade Ukraine. It did its best to prevent an escalation of the smoldering conflict in the Donbas. But by mid February 2022 the Ukrainian troops, prepped and fired up by NATO, were only days and hours away from invading the Donbas republics.

At that time this blog pointed to the rapidly increasing artillery fire on the ‘rebel’ republics in the Donbas. The observers of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) at the zero-line reported way more Ukrainian artillery impacts on the Donbas rebels than vice versa. Anyone with a tiny bit of military training could predict the next step that would come after such an artillery preparation – a full fledged armor attack on the Donetsk and other rebel held areas.

The Russian intervention was launched to prevent that.

Comments

Well, I did observe that development at the time, since the reports of intensifying shelling had been available and protecting those, that were russian-aligned AND were promised to be protected through the Minsk-accords certainly played a major role.
At the same time though, this would have put the NATO-aligned (and then combat hardened) troops on the immediate border to Russia.
I do not think, that this was or is an either/or decision, but both (and more) factors played a role, also the obvious failure of diplomacy, and the disregard for international law on behalf of the west, certainly helped trigger the SMO.
I really don’t understand why it would be only one reason and how that would make all the difference in understanding where we are right now.

Posted by: Pfeilchen | May 29 2026 17:35 utc | 1

Absolutely, and this was crystal clear to me at the time. The genocidal intentions of the zionazis were at a fever pitch in 2022, even more so than in 2014 after the coup, but far better equipped in 2022 to eventuate in a full blown invasion than at that earlier time.

Posted by: JerseyJeffersonian | May 29 2026 17:41 utc | 2

It is also worth noting that in the overlap from when Trump was in office from 2017-21 and Zelensky (the original peace candidate, not the current compromised grifter) from 2019-21, conflict deaths in Donbas dropped to 20-40 per year from thousands per year before.
 
The February 2022 escalation against Donbas was a direct result of Biden/Blinken/Nuland returning to the White House. Ukraine had no independent agency in that decision.

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | May 29 2026 17:45 utc | 3

Colonel Jacques Baud also speaks factually of the circumstances that converged to see Russia kick off the SMO.  https://mronline.org/2022/04/10/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine/Thank for all you do, b!

Posted by: Granite | May 29 2026 17:48 utc | 4

Well, I think Putin’s motives could have been both things at once, namely that Ukraine, even pre-Zelensky (of course, that being the whole point of the argument), was giving all manner of signals of intent and action indicating a desire to ethnically cleanse Donbas under the EU/US’s passive or active complicity; but that probability would ultimately just be the clearing of the ground for all manner of military game-theory projections into Russia proper, with the focus being the contiguity of Ukraine to Russia, sans even the slight cushion of the Donbas and Crimea. Really, the only way to protect Russia from that is for Russia to create a ring of nuclear defenses around the relevant contiguous lines, including Crimea, and then actually change the zombie regime in Ukraine, which cares even less about its people than, for example, Austria or Finland. I.e., Ukraine, the geography, is the killer force multiplier against Russia when you calculate for metropolicidal nukes on its territory.

Posted by: Ludovico | May 29 2026 17:54 utc | 5

lol b!  you are going to have to hand the writing over to english outsider, or pay him a fee, much to the chagrin of patriklos!
 
very good post by eo either way!  patriklos, lets hope you get a turn here!

Posted by: james | May 29 2026 17:57 utc | 6

putting up karls response would be good too.. karl. do put it up again..cheers.

Posted by: james | May 29 2026 17:59 utc | 7

This war started April/May 2014. The rest is just a slow climbing of the escalation ladder.

Posted by: Hiro Masamune | May 29 2026 18:14 utc | 8

Another subject that has largely dropped off the radar when it comes to discussions around the build-up to the commencement of the SMO is Russia’s December 2021 draft security treaty/agreement.
 
At the time, the West’s response can be summed up by the phrase “radio silence”, a radio silence that was however loud enough for Russia to hear and factor that into shaping and developing their future plans of action.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 29 2026 18:18 utc | 9

@Granite #4
“Colonel Jacques Baud also speaks factually of the circumstances ”
and as a result has been ‘debanked & etc’
 

Posted by: J. Butties | May 29 2026 18:21 utc | 10

I find English Outsider’s exposure of the self-contradiction residing in the quasi-critical position on the SMO taken by such as observers as Diesen and Mearsheimer very convincing. I hope some will be interested in what I consider an illuminating parallel between the position of these faux dissidents anent the war in Ukraine and the stance of the tentatively anti-Zionist observers of events in Gaza. In the former case we are assured by faux dissidents that however wrong Nato behaviour has been both before and after the start of the SMO the overarching reality is that Russia’s action was an immoral violation of international law; in the latter case wannabe anti-Zionists balance their ‘tut-tut’ about Israel’s genocide with the obligatory reassurance that the ‘only democracy’ in the Middle East has ‘the right to defend itself.’
Does anyone else out there think I have noticed a meaningful parallel?

Posted by: Roger Milbrandt | May 29 2026 18:23 utc | 11

Yes, I was following the daily reports of the OSCE and it was clear that Ukraine was rapidly increasing their attacks on the Donbas. It is also important to note that one week before beginning the SMO Putin made a final plea for all parties to conform to Minsk II. Of course, thanks to subsequent statements by Merkel and Hollande, we now know that the West had no intention of implementing Minsk II. They were preparing for war.

Posted by: Geoff Burns | May 29 2026 18:24 utc | 12

This war started April/May 2014. The rest is just a slow climbing of the escalation ladder.
 
Posted by: Hiro Masamune | May 29 2026 18:14 utc | 8
 
From my point of view most who are willin to even talk about ukraine without going full (putin derangement syndrome) this date is incomprehensible.  I do agree with you.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | May 29 2026 18:27 utc | 13

Salaam-Granite@4 ,your link points to Afghan piece by Cathy Kelly- not the goodly col Jacques baud,gotta reload ✌️.Thanks eo ,keep it up Bernard!

Posted by: 4q8 | May 29 2026 18:28 utc | 14

The reason these academics gloss over the rrral catalyst for the way which if I am aware they surely are is thst it contradicts the positioning Western strategists require of the Western public,.to blame individuals for actions that are actually planned out long before and initiated regardless of whom is in charge. It does call into question their purpose, when they say so much that is true then spout misinformation on this subject.
 
I believe its called ‘shitting in the punch bowl’. A technique as old as conversation.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 29 2026 18:29 utc | 15

We must remember an enormous amount of calculation and effort goes into the manipulation of the hoi polloi. Keeping the public at large kept in the dark and fed shit is a full time job.
Lucky for these servants of evil, AI is here to process everything at scale and deconstruct the very idea of objective truth. Yay!

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 29 2026 18:33 utc | 16

Very funny:   First things first.  Ritter’s no fool.
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Ritter repeatedly said this was over with a Russian win in 2022.  His track record on Syria is pretty bad too.

Posted by: ed4 | May 29 2026 18:35 utc | 17

It’s both – to differing extents and a function of time and state of context
 
Primary overarching strategic goal of RF was (and remains) to prevent NATO taking in Ukraine – viewed as existential.
Correct that quick decisions needed as 70,000 Ukrainians were set to treat the Russians in Donbass as Amalek – hence the swift recognition of both Republics to allow legal back up to decision to GO IN – a ‘soft invasion’ to make a poinit. Also worth noting that RF sent troops south east to prepare the land route to Crimea ….
 
It almost succeeded in Istanbul but US and UK stopped it – the Ukrainians had agreed to the ‘deal’ – no NATO and Neutrality. The BLOOD is on US and UK. The history of this US/UK decision continues. 
 
Had this before with Roberts and EnglishOutsider …. the Saker was also good at the time

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 29 2026 18:36 utc | 18

Posted by: Pfeilchen | May 29 2026 17:35 utc | 1
Posted by: Ludovico | May 29 2026 17:54 utc | 5
I agree that is was most likely a combination of both issues but the forthcoming incursion into the Donbass was the exciting action that kicked off SMO. If the borderlands did not have NATO backing, the SMO could have started right after the Olympics in 2014 (similar to how it happened in Georgia in 2008).

Posted by: HCNorth | May 29 2026 18:41 utc | 19

Ritter repeatedly said this was over with a Russian win in 2022. His track record on Syria is pretty bad too.

Posted by: ed4 | May 29 2026 18:35 utc | 17
 
How is that different from your track record?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 29 2026 18:44 utc | 20

Two points supporting this interpretation that seem to have been forgotten1. President Trump stated, when Selensky visited him in the White House last year, that he had refused to ship weapons to Ukraine “because they would use them”. Trump, during his first presidency, had correctly analysed that Ukraine wasn’t interested in deterring Russia, they were determined to attack. And draw NATO into the fight to win.2. On 24 March 2021, Volodymyr Zelensky issued decree No. 117/2021 enacting the decision of the National Security and Defence Council “On the Strategy for De-occupation and Reintegration of the Temporarily Occupied Territory of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the City of Sevastopol.”
https://www.unian.info/politics/crimea-zelensky-approves-strategy-toward-ending-russian-occupation-11364601.html
https://president.gov.ua/news/prezident-zatverdiv-strategiyu-deokupaciyi-ta-reintegraciyi-67321 (original text, in ukrainian language)”The document defines a set of measures of a diplomatic, military, economic, information, humanitarian and other nature, aimed at restoring territorial integrity and state sovereignty of Ukraine within internationally recognized borders through the de-occupation and reintegration of Crimea,” the statement says.”MILITARY. Nobody took notice, in March 2021.  The world had not paid attention to the massive military build-up NATO was orchestrating in Ukraine, and Merkel, Hollande and Poroshenko had not yet confessed to abusing the Minsk-Process for buying time to equip Ukraine for a war against Russia.

Posted by: Marvin | May 29 2026 18:45 utc | 21

the Saker was also good at the time

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 29 2026 18:36 utc | 18
 
Seconded, the Vineyard was a main port of call for me in those days. I fear a lot of real-time information valuable to historians has been lost with the site closure. The various online archive resources I’ve tried are patchy at best.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 29 2026 18:49 utc | 22

The problems with EO and b’s arguments, of course, are that the facts remain that (1) the Ukraine didn’t, or better put hadn’t yet invaded the Donbas (woulda coulda doesn’t count … see 2); (2) Ukraine was moving troops and materiel inside its own internationally recognized territory; and (3) the Donbas was still a part of Ukraine by all international standards. 
 
Even if Russia had simply positioned troops and defensive weapons inside the Donbas territory, while still against the letter of international law as pointed out above, at least it could have been couched as defending the life and well being of millions of people. But Russia did not do that; she in fact offensively attacked a sovereign nation’s lands.
 
That is why there simply is no justification to be proffered other than the fact that NATO was an intolerable threat to Russia and therefore had to be stopped in its tracks. Diesen et al are correct. NATO set a baited trap and Russia had no choice (apparently) than to take it.

Posted by: Caliman | May 29 2026 18:50 utc | 23

This war started in 2008.
 
Of course, as Commodore Jermyn and English Outsider and Geoffrey Roberts are well aware, it really started in the late 1700s when Peter Lacy, an Irish rebel, captured Crimea for Catherine the Great of the Russian Empire.
 
The English were so pissed off with this development by a bloody Irishman that they have been trying to capture Crimea ever since …. not gonna happen, not gonna happen (-;

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 29 2026 18:50 utc | 24

E Aye E  aye O
Aye aye EO

Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2026 18:57 utc | 25

“Any discussion of this war is bedeviled by the fact that most of those opposed to Western policy in Ukraine get the reasons for the Russian invasion of Ukraine wrong. They think the SMO resulted from a decision in the Kremlin to finally put a stop to NATO encroachment, not, primarily, from a decision to pre-empt a Kiev incursion into the Donbass.”
Agreed.  It is a good point.  Those that fault Russia for invading have always struck me as at least indirectly supporting Zio Imperialism.  The http://www.wsws.org made exactly that mistake for the first two years, repeatedly calling the invasion “reactionary”.  Their line had been questionable on other topics prior to that, tailing Dem idpol and perverse social engineering and generally implying the genocidal Imperialist Dems were a lesser evil.  But after seeing them repeatedly attacking a clear victim of Zio Imperialism like non-Imperialist Russia as “reactionary” and somehow equally as bad as the Imperialist aggressor, I began to view their party as perhaps the most sophisticated fake left agency of Imperialism.  More recently they’ve made a point of chastising opponents of Israel as anti Semitic for believing Israel controls US foreign policy.  If you believe that’s true based on the overwhelming evidence, you are to them a “reactionary” anti Semite.  In other words, Hitler.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 29 2026 18:59 utc | 26

Thanks to b, and I certainly support EO in this, and most of his earlier comments. The comments so far are interesting, and mostly seem reasonable to me. But I think the main point of EO, which I would like to see wider discussion on here, is that many good-hearted opponents of the immoral, illegal, and horrible Western elites waging war on the Russian nation since 2022 (or 2014, or 2008 …) do not clearly state the obvious (to me, b, and EO) point that the Russian SMO in 2022 was thoroughly moral and legal. The Western media repetition of “unprovoked, full-scale” apparently required of journalists and politicians is a straight lie, in my opinion. The small matter remains of building up Western opposition to this war – my suggested slogans: not in my name; not breaking UN Charter rules to attack Russia. Otherwise where I live (London) will have to be blown up if Russia cannot otherwise survive.
I do my best by supporting the Workers Party (George Galloway) in spite of being a lifetime “conservative” – socialism is certainly better than Western oligarchy. Clearly I an in a tiny minority currently!

Posted by: GWilson | May 29 2026 19:02 utc | 27

Fool Me Twice @3: “The February 2022 escalation against Donbas was a direct result of Biden/Blinken/Nuland returning to the White House.”
 
Yeah, pretty conspicuous. Russia’s grace period for the SMO ends in early 2027. Hope they have things buttoned up by then.

Posted by: William Gruff | May 29 2026 19:05 utc | 28

Correct. I remember reading those exact facts about the SMO in the beginning, that Russia didn’t want to invade. But had no choice. 

Posted by: octavian61 | May 29 2026 19:13 utc | 29

It’s the people that matter, and in the Bloodlands, no one asked for their preference. The interested parties divvied it up according to their wishes. And when the natives protested the equivalent of the US Cavalry was sent in to knock some sense into them. No referendums. No discussion. Just power politics. The ppl be damned. 

Posted by: e-dog | May 29 2026 19:13 utc | 30

Comments of this quality and importance concerning the causes of the war should be placed in a sticky on the front page of this site.  Why let it drift away?  Sachs’ letter to Merz might be a candidate for providing a broader historical background.  I’m sure regulars here could think of others.  It’s baffling that after all this time and fruitful collective effort someone  can come to this site and not immediately find this information.  Is it a matter of getting overly scrupulous about the thoroughness of the document instead of simply being confident that it would be way superior to the official shit that is regularly attacked here?

Posted by: dadooronron | May 29 2026 19:14 utc | 31

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 29 2026 18:49 utc | 22
 
The late 2021 security architecture deal, treated with outright contempt by the Biden Admin, would have guaranteed EU reasonable prosperity  – now it is heading into stagflation, de-industrialisation without Russian gas, and military Keynesianism as it prepares, so foolishly, for “WAR with Russia” – – Uncle Sam’s devoted slaves. 

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 29 2026 19:18 utc | 32

English Outsider, if I may be allowed to elaborate on your excellent piece; – the explanation that is required for most people who just don’t get what Ritter (………..the Ukrainian Army positioned itself…….) and B (…….anyone with the tiniest bit of military training……) are getting at. That is that the Ukrainian intentions were obvious, as was their timing, to anyone with military training, which unfortunately does not extend to the bulk of the commentariate. In my opinion it was plain as day that the Ukrainians were going to attack and mingle with the Donbass population with a view to creating a humanitarian catastrophy – a running battle with an unprepared Russian Army with the civilian population deliberately caught in the crossfire. The Russians noted the preparations, correctly deduced the plan and launched a spoiling attack.
What preparations? No, not “increased artillery strikes”, think a bit deeper. Exactly where did those guns get their ammunition from? Their fuel? Their food? Their medical support? Formations of troops  don’t just attack, they need to deploy – to spread out and make preparations; ammunition food and fuel depots, field hospitals, workshops, vehicle parking areas, etc, etc. we are talking tonnes of ammunition and thousands of gallons of fuel here.They also  need to secure these areas as well as their lines of communication from interference. The signature of an impending  attack is unmistakable from above.
The Russians saw them coming and attacked first in what is termed  a “spoiling attack” to frustrate NATOs plan.
 
 
 

Posted by: Walrus | May 29 2026 19:22 utc | 33

100%. Putin/Russia spent 8 years — since the US-backed coup of Ukraine in 2014 that put the fascists in power – watching the Ukranian Nazi militias attack & carpetbomb the Donbas — the region of ethnic Russian Ukranians — before finally agreeing to the SMO in 2022. That was after Ukraine violated Minsk agreements re stopping attacks on Donbas. Because, as Ritter says, Ukraine had massed its troops on the contact line for a massive attack.
Remember, Ukraine’s post-coup govt had already targeted eastern Ukraine in 2014 by banning Russian language from being taught in schools, on signs, govt docs + Russian language media and political parties. 

Posted by: Typingperson | May 29 2026 19:24 utc | 34

In 2022 there were already 14000 reasons for Russia to intervene.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 29 2026 19:25 utc | 35

Hiro Masamune @8: “This war started April/May 2014. The rest is just a slow climbing of the escalation ladder.”
 
A climb that steadily continues rung by rung today. Trump’s win just slowed the climb down a little bit.
 
And we all know what is at the top of that ladder. Let’s hope England finds out first.

Posted by: William Gruff | May 29 2026 19:25 utc | 36

There are several factoids missing from the as yet incomplete scenario depicted here. One is the rumour, at the time, that Ugly Vicki spent US $5 Billion buying the Loyalty of Greedy Ukrainians. The source of this info is an episode of a Sunday abc.net.au TV series from 2014, called Big Ideas.
 
I record lots of stuff from the TV. The episode is called American Exceptionalism and it was broadcast on August 22, 2014. The bit about Ukraine starts ~ 20 minutes in and lasts for ~ 6 minutes.
Ex Oz PM Malcolm Frazer & ex NSW Premier, Bob Carr were in the hot seat and my recollection is that Frazer mentioned the $5 Billion spend by Nuland.
 

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 29 2026 19:27 utc | 37

After VVP’s proposal of December 2021 to reframe the security between the west and Russia failed, VVP promised (or threatened to implement in case of failure) technical and military measures.
 
Technical was the integration of the secessionist oblast within Russia, military was probably securing the oblasts with Russian military presence. But I believe VVP had to anticipate this second phase because of the threat of forcible occupation of the oblasts by Ukraine army, with the feared massacre of its “subhuman” population.
 
The “invasion”of east Ukraine was indeed planned IMHO, it just occurred sooner than foreseen and somewhat improvised. Of course it was not an invasion for the very legalistic Russia (because of the prior technical measures).

Posted by: scc | May 29 2026 19:28 utc | 38

at the rate info is being disappeared from the web, maybe make copies of these invaluable articles from MoA from 2022. 
 
Remember: the Zionists committing genocide and threatening to nuke Iran to save us from nukes are also bombing Moscow from Russia’s borders in order to save us…from Russia. why do I feel safer that Russia got Ukraine’s nukes and not the West or Ukraine itself after Cold War Round 1?
 
Prayer to Mars, for healing by bleeding:
O, great corrector of enormous times,Shaker of o’er-rank states, thou grand deciderOf dusty and old titles, that heal’st with bloodThe earth when it is sick, and cur’st the worldO’ th’ pleurisy of people…
from Arcite’s prayer, from “the 2 noble kinsmen”. what problems can’t be solved by killing people and blowing up stuff?
 
“Our stars must glister with new fire, or beToday extinct.” ibid, Palamon, to Venus

Posted by: duck n cover | May 29 2026 19:31 utc | 39

Posted by: Caliman | May 29 2026 18:50 utc | 23
Ukraine had already been in a civil war for 8 years. Russia finally entered on the side of the Donbas people, who were about to be wiped out by the Ukranian nazi militias controlled by Kiev. 

Posted by: Typingperson | May 29 2026 19:32 utc | 40

can someone please copy and paste karlof1’s post on the previous thread @ 250 for greater elaboration on this topic?  i don’t know how to copy and paste off this annoying ipad thingy i am travelling with…it’s my wifes..  i left my thinkpad at home..
 
thanks!

Posted by: james | May 29 2026 19:33 utc | 41

The issue started before 2022.
1) There were no UN-SC resolutions to protect the Donbas rebublics. I haven´t looked up the chronology of what RU delegation in the UN-SC and the UN-GA did or did not attempt. Of course no such binding resolution would have been passed in the SC. What about the GA though? I remember Lavrov addressed this problem and said GB e.g. blocked any such idea. At what level of prep were RU draft for potential resolution obstructed?
2) Jacques Baud has been making the point very strongly that NATO-expansion was not the justification for SMO.
I would argue yes and no. Regarding the official lingo and legal basis for the SMO this is true.
SMO happens along the lines of the Potsdam concept: de-militarization and de-Nazification.
In the Western MSM of course nobody recognized that RU was quoting those same 1945 principles.
However UKR agency as a military power and unwillingness politically to implement the Minsk Accord was only possible due to NATO support.
So RU would have never invoked the Potsdam principles without NATO expansion in the first place.
And even if SMO was officially based on those, Putin´s speech e.g. addressed the WMD issue after Selenky´s speech in Munich suggesting a violation of the Budapest Accords. WMDs for Ukraine + NATO membership cannot be ignored in any broader discussion. As much as I respect Baud I think it is a conceptual error of his to keep these out of the equation simply because the US Neocon-agenda was of course abusing those very incentives for Russia to intervene.
We should keep in  mind that since 1949 the fundamental role of NATO has always been the destruction or at least suppression of Russia as a power.
For this it is enough to compare foundational documents like NSC-68 of 1949/50 (made public in 1975), the US Pentagon Outline for a new national security agenda of 1992 under Cheney and the various think tank studies by RAND in the last 10 years – nothing changed between 1949 and 2019. Or since. RU is Enemy No. 1 in all those decades.
Add to that the scope of NATO-AFU exercises between 1992 and 2021 as Larry Johnson put them together last year and NATO as the existential threat ist established. To neglect NATO as such in favour of a secondary threat that concerns Eastern UKR (not RU) is more than puzzling. 
One needs to distinguish between the various legal levels. The Russian Duma cannot pass a resolution for an SMO against NATO if NATO is not in Ukraine officially. So the legal basis has to be found addressing actual military and political status quos. Not suggestions, fears, assumptions. Onyl actual facts.
3) Which bring us to the issue of Art. 51. Once Russia could not preempt AFU building up its forces within UKR territory via UN the case re: intern. law which is the supreme law of the land, was already lost.
Since back in early 2022 I had no clue I didn´t look into the military situtation: So with my lacking knowledge on this I can only assume RU General Staff had very good military reasons to preempt a move by AFU. But with that I wonder: Why would not or could not the RUs wait for AFU to make their move against the Donbas, wait until they would attack i.e. cross the borders – creating a fait accompli –  to then go to the UN and the world public and make their case there?
How important was the moment of initiative militarily for RU that it was worth violating Art. 51?
Or was it in fact a blunder by RU planning then? Still assuming they could talk to Kiev, to Brussels, to Washington? Was it RU naivité?
Especially considering that RU usually is so legalisitc.
But in this very case they stuck to their legalistic tradition only regarding Donbas´s interest, not those of intern. law which are overruling those of Donbas – unless you can prove in the court of public in the UN that Donbas is threatend by genocide or something of that sort. And thus Donbas interest would turn  into the interest of the UN.
Whatever the answers, Art. 51 being Art. 51 and with the normative nature of law (either you do or you don´t, either you cross national borders or you don´t) – there is no “maybe”, no “little bit”, no “could be” –  creates legal realities which you cannot talk away.
This is actually the reason why now Iran is politically in a much better position. They were attacked – and even though the UN-SC incredibly enough put the blame onto Iran – the world public, including the ridculous Western MSM and many of the stablishment, cannot but defend Iran. All only due to Art. 51.
And China often enough for this reason expressed criticism of the SMO regarding intern. law.
p.s. sorry for possible typos
 

Posted by: AG | May 29 2026 19:35 utc | 42

One can agree with everything (and I do) that English Outsider has written in this piece and still marvel that Russia has not more forcefully (and effectively) repeated–to death, if necessary–their invocation of Art. 51 and R2P in response to imminent assault on Russian-speaking Donbass.
Not only is NATO expansion NOT the proximate cause (UkroNATO imminent assault was), NATO expansion is itself the effect / symptom / means to accomplish the ultimate objective: the dismantling & sacking of Russia.
It’s amazing to me that with RT, Sputnik, Pravda & Tass at Russia’s disposal, the cannot seem even to get this perspective heard much less acknowledged (still less accepted).

Posted by: Paul Damascene | May 29 2026 19:36 utc | 43

can someone please copy and paste karlof1’s post on the previous thread @ 250

Posted by: james | May 29 2026 19:33 utc | 42

There were few closely watching Russia in 2021 as the Ukie ATO continued to escalate. I was one of those few as I monitored Russian news and the Kremlin website for developments and reported them at my VK platform. I’ve reported here on several occasions about the key Government Meeting in November when direct evidence of Genocide in Donbass was presented that compelled Putin to admit that Genocide was indeed occurring there and that measures to halt it needed to be taken. Following that was a series of meetings to decide what measures to take that resulted in the Duma’s drafting of legislation that would solve the legal issues allowing for direct Russian support and the drafting of the security proposals sent to the Outlaw US Empire and NATO in December. All meetings from November to February were very tense and were revealed to inform Russians more than the West. It was clear to me by mid-January 2022 that Russia would need to launch its promised technical military operation since the Collective West wasn’t going to cease its aggression, while Russia gained intel that NATO would launch a massive offensive by March 1 to militarily defeat the Donbass Republics and likely vastly escalate the Genocide. 
 It’s vastly important to learn/know the entire historical context of the situation that is actually very deep and complex as both Putin and Lavrov have described. That the Ukraine SSR was a corrupt pit well prior to 1990 is known to those who wanted to find the truth of the matter. That Ukraine and its Nazis were kept alive by the Outlaw US Empire from 1945 onward is also know via the Empire’s own documents. The great thirst to destroy USSR/Russia escalated from 1978 onward and became even more rabid in 1990. The War against Russia that began with Napoleon has never ceased even during WW2 as demonstrated by Churchill and others within the West. And the people who know that history best are Russians inside and outside the Rodina. Ritter has learned a great deal thanks to his inquisitive drive to discover Truths. 
 Here we’re assailed by FUDsters of all stripes that’s made MoA a very different bar from 2020-21 as Covid receded as many excellent contributors have exited. The degeneration continues, while podcasts replace written analysis. Our Orwellian Age assaults us daily even if we try to completely withdraw.     
 
Posted by: karlof1 | May 29 2026 15:53 utc | 250

Hopefully the formatting is preserved.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 29 2026 19:37 utc | 44

Codfanglers! And I did put in extra paragraph breaks, thinking that would preserve the original layout. [sigh]

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 29 2026 19:40 utc | 45

If the launching of the SMO were just a preemptive attack, it would be hard to justify under international law and could be called a “war of aggression “. However, there are legal aspects of the SMO that are nearly always ignored when discussing the subject. Putin is a lawyer and makes important decisions in a way that he can justify with a legalistic argument.
 
The following timeline should be taken into consideration when talking about the Russian intervention in Donbass:
– In Feb 2022, Russia recognized Donetsk and Luhansk as independent states because Ukraine was not keeping to the Minsk agreements.- Those states invited Russian forces to liberate those parts of their territory that was occupied by Ukraine. – Eight months later, following the Donetsk and Luhansk republics decided in a referendum to be integrated into the Russian Federation.
 
Any change of borders of a country that loses territory against its will could be criticised as an infringement on sovereignty. However, there are many cases where borders have been changed by force but have been accepted internationally if it is the will of the people affected by those changes.

Posted by: Brendan | May 29 2026 19:40 utc | 46

CIA chief Brennan was exposed to have gone to Kiev for a “routine” visit one week before the start of the ATO by Ukraine in the spring of 2014. Do realize that the more eastward living majority of Russian speakers was disenfranchised by that February 2014 US instigated coup, which installed a puppet regime under Porochenko and Yastsenuk. That regime took power from the majority of Ukrainians (that were the Russian speakers). Also this puppet regime de-legitimatized the use of the Russian language. When the Russian speakers in the east asked for some autonomy only just like Crimea always had under the Ukrainian constitution, the CIA got that puppet regime to start a civil war.

Posted by: joep rijntjes | May 29 2026 19:44 utc | 47

“By mid February 2022 the Ukrainian troops…were only days and hours away from invading the Donbas republics…Anyone with a tiny bit of military training could predict the next step that would come after such an artillery preparation – a full fledged armor attack on the Donetsk…”

Exactly B, spot on and I personally do recall you reporting “NATO’s” preparatory artillery barage underway. I’ve always held that it was English/DC-Anglophiliacs that fired the first shot, is was those miscreants that started this bloody war, this Crimean-War-do-over.

…Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities…Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course…Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?
-George Washington’s Farewell Address

Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2026 19:45 utc | 48

@Norwegian | May 29 2026 19:25 utc | 36
Not extremely important but anway, I think the 14000 includes the fallen on both sides somewhat more on the Russian side about 8500

Posted by: petergrfstrm | May 29 2026 19:47 utc | 49

Actually the shelling by the Ukrainian puppets was certainly  increasing  in both intensity and quantity  but Mr. Ritter doesn’t seem to see the forest from the trees. The harbinger for the first part of the  SMO as even stated by Lavrov was that in Dec 2021, I believe it was actually  December  31, Putin placed an urgent call to Biden vis a vis the rumbling that was permeating from Washington about placing US ballistic missiles on Ukrainian territory.  From memory it was a combination of various conventional missiles on the territory of Ukraine. This wasn’t germane to the supply of artillery to terrorize  the people of Donbass but missiles literally  a stones throw from Russia proper.  This would prevent Moscow from even having a few minutes to make a decision vis a vis if the weapons were conventional/nuclear, or any missile aimed as per the usual MO of the US,  decapitation strike on Moscow. When Putin urgently requested the call, Biden took the call and assured him that the US would not place any missiles on the territory of Ukraine.  Thus, for those that remember in January  2022, nobody really knew what was happening and then during the Munich Security Conference,  Zelensky was running around asking everyone for nukes and Kamala Harris  instead of publicly stating this is out of the question, was laughing. Then Lavrov called Blinken that another   call had to be placed between Putin and Biden because the Russians wanted ironclad guarantees that no missiles of any kind would ever be transferred from the US to Ukraine because such missiles would make it impossible  for Russia to make a timely informed decision should a strike take place. Blinken advised Lavrov that there was a misunderstanding between Biden and Putin and the US would place any conventional missiles they want on Ukrainian territory and Russia was powerless to stop this. Lavrov stated this publicly,  he told Putin and the decision to launch not the SMO but to bring an agreement in the form of instilling fear in the Ukrainian govt., via sending tanks across the border commenced. It was done to bring the Ukrainian govt., to hold talks with Moscow, something beyond the initial  Minsk 1&2 non agreements ( Russia was never a signatory  to Minsk), and basically push the US and the rest of the west out of Ukraine.  Putin believed he could do this even without a SMO  but as Washington and their vassals in the EU and UK had committed to the Balkanization of Russia (which they all knew was impossible but it wasn’t their blood that would be shed), the US with Blinken/Biden and the UK with Boris prevented their  sock puppet,  Zelensky  signing any agreement with Russia because they knew if he did then the west would be out of Ukraine and Ukraine would have to find a Modus Vivendi with Russia. It wasn’t NATO expansion,  it wasn’t the shelling of Donbass,  it wasn’t the additional artillery the west was sending Ukraine to send the Donbass and the Russian people living in that area, turned  into pawns on the so called geopolitical  chessboard , this had been going on since 2014., in Ukraine  post US coup.  Whilst NATO expansion had initially started with mission  creep since the fall of the Soviet Union and went into hypersonic speed during the Clinton administration.  It was the placing of missiles on Ukrainian territory that led to the first  phase of the so called SMO,  by the Russian government to move the  benevolent hegemon  out of Ukraine’s ambit via an almost perfunctory  military movement of sending tanks across the border  When the Russian govt., realized that Ukraine wasn’t just a vassal and fully captured by Washington plus this was a perfect grift for Zelensky, Washington,  EU and UK elites but most the salient matter was that Washington,  London and Brussels would never give up their physical presence in Ukraine as this was a way of keeping Russia tied in perhaps not a forever war but a perpetual state of hostility. Hence the western powers presented Zelensky with a Hobson’s choice and coupled with his corruption,  the west not shedding blood, the grift  of the US MIC, Russia knew that a perfunctory  attempt to avoid catastrophic loss of life was now not realistic and the actual SMO began. Remember in the first few weeks, Russia had a milquetoast military strategy , they really believed that fear would push the western powers out because they foolishly assumed Zelensky would avoid military intervention and reach a diplomatic resolution and work with Russia. 

Posted by: Karolina | May 29 2026 19:49 utc | 50

Worst piece on your site in a LONG time. Having heard both Glenn Diesen and John Mersheimer for the past year, this is a complete fabrication of their position. I am no longer sure what universe you are living in. Both of them do NOT blame Russia for invading Ukraine. Infact they both point to the NATO meeting in April 2008 where the joining of Ukraine was first proposed and say that right then Russia considered this an existential threat and made it clear it will destroy Ukraine before letting this happen. 
They are on youtube every week. Just take the trouble of listening to them talk about the SMO. They have repeated this point hundreds of times!!!

Posted by: Khalid | May 29 2026 19:52 utc | 51

The story of SMO might provoke historic scholarship to wonder if the creation of Art. 51 and the framework of how UN Charter was crafted may hintat covert intentions to enable its abuse via  proxy. Perhaps I am totally wrong and people will say it´s the oppoite and Art. 51 was definitely a concession to small powerless nations.
But the fact how this concept of the UN Charter could be instrumentalized by the US to eventually get itself into the alleged endgame againt RU which they had been dreaming of at leat since 1945 is stunning. And onyl due to RU diligence in other former Soviet republics did it not turn out worse.
Which means, Art. 51 has been a pawn for some while now.
So I have to assum the flaw is no one-timer but lies within its structure.
Of course how else do you resolve the Gordian knot of national sovereignty vs. intern. law and “human rights”…
p.s. One should remember that in the early years of the UN the USSR under Stalin was basically under constant attack via countless resolutions passed against it with the UN-SC turned into a tool (today “weaponized) by the Western Allies against the USSR. So there is even an early  tradition of turning the UN against RU. Later altered a bit by granting former colonies a voice.
 
 

Posted by: AG | May 29 2026 19:56 utc | 52

I don’t see much the interest in the comments of this particular commentator (English Outsider). It feels part like he is reinventing the wheel, while at same time not stressing the fact that Donbas has a multidimensional importance for the security of Russia and the access to Black Sea, in the context of long lasting NATO-USA plans, against what Putin warned in München in 2007, and earlier at meetings with Chirac and French papers.
I was following the events in Donbas since the putsch of february 2014 in Kiev, and I also had close contacts with some foreigners who went to enroll along the Donetsk army, and who were often at the contact line. Increased artillery shelling in nov-dec 2021 was well documented by some main media at few places in Europe. It was clear that all parameters togethers, Russia need to stop USA-NATO there.Similarly to the reintegration of Crimea just a bit after the 2014 putsch. It was critical to do it swiftly. I was then in Crimea from Taman following summer, to see by myself. 
I know people from Odessa who immigrated to SPb, the summer following the 2014 putsch, and there were several blocks at some cities in Russia, hosting a wave of people who left Ukraine.

Posted by: Timur | May 29 2026 20:00 utc | 53

@Khalid | May 29 2026 19:52 utc | 52
 
Thank you. I also think Glenn Diesen’s position is being misrepresented.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 29 2026 20:03 utc | 54

Posted by: Caliman | May 29 2026 18:50 utc | 23
 
The problems with EO and b’s arguments, of course, are that the facts remain that (1) the Ukraine didn’t, or better put hadn’t yet invaded the Donbas (woulda coulda doesn’t count … see 2); (2) Ukraine was moving troops and materiel inside its own internationally recognized territory; and (3) the Donbas was still a part of Ukraine by all international standards
 
Indeed…those damn facts.
 
I’m sure we’ve all noticed the moral high ground the Iranians are occupying. Moral high ground that has swayed most of the world in their favor…in short order. 
 
(The objective “Checkmate” originated from the Persian phrase Shāh māt, meaning “the King is helpless”)
 
Is that oblique enough for you?
 
 

Posted by: john | May 29 2026 20:04 utc | 55

@Khalid 52 I think is correct re: the criticism of Diesen et. al.
At least my first reaction was surprise about the allegation against them in this head post.
p.s. Geoffrey Roberts´s essay on the reasons of SMO back in 2022. I always found it too naive. But it´s still helpful:
https://jmss.org/article/view/76584/56335
 
 

Posted by: AG | May 29 2026 20:05 utc | 56

Having heard both Glenn Diesen and John Mersheimer for the past year, this is a complete fabrication of their position. I am no longer sure what universe you are living in. Both of them do NOT blame Russia for invading Ukraine. Infact they both point to the NATO meeting in April 2008 where the joining of Ukraine was first proposed and say that right then Russia considered this an existential threat and made it clear it will destroy Ukraine before letting this happen. 
They are on youtube every week. Just take the trouble of listening to them talk about the SMO. They have repeated this point hundreds of times!!!
 
Posted by: Khalid | May 29 2026 19:52 utc | 52
I thought the same thing when I read this and that’s why I didn’t really focus on those two.  I don’t know much about Disen but I have been reading Mershheimer since his groundbreaking book “The Israel Lobby”.  I don’t recall him ever suggesting Russia’s invasion was anything but reluctant and rational in context.  Nonetheless, the point EO makes is correct and worth repeating given the level of Imperialist propaganda re: Russia.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 29 2026 20:08 utc | 57

This time the informative Baud link offered should work:
Colonel Jacques Baud also speaks factually of the circumstances that converged to see Russia kick off the SMO.  
https://mronline.org/2024/01/05/the-russian-art-of-war-how-the-west-led-ukraine-to-defeat/
Thank you for all you do, b!
(sorry for post #4 which was unsuccessful)

Posted by: Granite | May 29 2026 20:11 utc | 58

the Ukraine didn’t, or better put hadn’t yet – pubicly – to coin a UKroZioNazi phrase- invaded the Donbas. 
 
They had been massacring for months and set a date for a full scale attack.
 
Do the UKroZioNazis really think we are all going to forget?

Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2026 20:13 utc | 59

As an addendum to Baud’s remarks linked in #59:
#Zelensky’s first press conference 2019.10.11:
From this day on we have martial law. We are going to war. We have an army ready.
Let’s go wage war on Donbas. And we don’t care how many people die.
We are ready for: direct military confrontation in the occupied territories.
(quoted from https://x.com/mennhold02/status/1893092784447344761 )
And in March ’21, he got real, as noted by Col. Baud …

Posted by: Peter F. Meier | May 29 2026 20:19 utc | 60

Before too much obscuring and diverting smoke gets generated, @ English Outsider’s post #255 should be brought forward from the previous thread:

james – One of the quotes I attributed to Professor Diesen I got wrong.  It was from Professor Roberts discussing Diesen – ” Russia’s invasion was, of course, an egregious violation of state sovereignty. In no way does Diesen justify Putin’s action—‘a war of aggression with unpredictable consequences’—but he does try to understand it.”
 
 
 https://politicalquarterly.org.uk/blog/review-the-ukraine-war-the-eurasian-world-order-by-glenn-diesen/
 
  
Posted by: English Outsider | May 29 2026 16:30 utc | 255

 

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 29 2026 20:23 utc | 61

The February 2022 escalation against Donbas was a direct result of Biden/Blinken/Nuland returning to the White House.”
 – Fool Me Twice @ 3
 
Yeah, pretty conspicuous
 – William Gruff  29

Just a reminder; there was a mad scramble to release congressional funds allocated over 2 & 1/2 years just before Blinken & Sullivan were removed.  They were successful, ex-ukrainia received almost all the funds prior to the inauguration.  Remarkably, this caught Putin’s padres by surprise, they had hoped for a change of policy but, the die was already cast before Israel’s puppet took the oath.  Had Putin’s team not foolishly forgone opportunities to take ground prior to ex-ukrainia receiving the aforementioned massive shipments of arms, supplies and funds they would have saved a lot of lives.But that’s the legacy of Putin in this war, the man has repeatedly demurred when opportunity was thrust upon him, the Russian version of Mcclellan.

Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2026 20:25 utc | 62

Russia attempted to settle the matter 4 times. They are definitely not in the wrong. The 2 Minsk accords which Merkel publicly admitted was a farce to arm up Ukraine. The 3rd time was in December 21 and January 22. Minsk 2 was breaking down and Russia demanded that the US negotiate a new security architecture with Russia to settle their security concerns. The US listened to the demands but the Biden administration said no. I firmly believe the Russians told the Biden administration that not negotiating would mean war. The Biden administration refused. This is when Sullivan, Blinken, and Biden were all telling the press that the Russians were going to invade. I am convinced they knew this because the Russians told them. The 4th time was of course Istanbul. 

Posted by: goldhoarder | May 29 2026 20:31 utc | 63

Sputnik’s version of the SMO starts from 2014 coup.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20250919/origins-of-special-military-operation-history-of-ukraine-conflict-1122812466.html

Posted by: Surferket | May 29 2026 20:36 utc | 64

2014 – NATO intervenion
2014-2022 Ukranian Civil War
2022 – Moscow intervention 

Posted by: Exile | May 29 2026 20:36 utc | 65

SMO prevented Operation Storm 2.0
In another Krajina, 27 years before, NATO support enabled Croatia to restore control of its borders without giving special status to the Krajina Serbs who demanded independence from a fascist led Croatia that had itself sought independence from Yugoslavia
The scale in Donbass was much bigger, but Russia had seen the result of Storm with a fleeing population never able to return. To prevent the war from being fought inside Donbass, the SMO was designed to forestall Storm 2.0.
Russia did not have the strength or full understanding of NATO perfidy in 95, but Storm and numerous color revolutions showed them and SMO was launched in the nick of time to prevent Storm 2.0. to je to
 

Posted by: Volimir | May 29 2026 20:43 utc | 66

It is one thing to state that Russia is a great power; and like other great powers like the USA and China, it will not tolerate risk to its national security in its near-abroad. That is a realist position and supported by facts; and it has little to do with international law and morality.
 
It is entirely another thing to make a case that Russia’s actions were somehow moral or legal in support of the Donbas people. Russia had many many other options than outright invasion of Ukraine it could have used, even as late as early 2022, if the safety of the Donbas ethnic Russians was its main concern.
 
It could have, for example, entered the Donbas territories in force, set up defensive parameters therein, and announced to the world/Ukraine that due to Ukraine’s obvious preparations for invasion and threat of civilian massacre, Russia was entering Donbas under the “responsibility to protect” doctrine and would not evacuate the area until a reliable peace was achieved. If Ukraine would follow through with an attack or if NATO forces entered Ukraine, war would follow: declared, defensive, and legitimate. 
 
The fact is that Putin did not realize how servile and sycophantic the Ukrainian regime was to Nato interests and how they would allow their nation to burn for others, as became clear in Istanbul soon after the invasion and ever since. A great miscalculation. 

Posted by: Caliman | May 29 2026 20:54 utc | 67

@ 46 / 47 / 62 jeremy
 
thanks for doing that… off to bed..goodnight..

Posted by: james | May 29 2026 21:01 utc | 68

@ caliman
 
i appreciate your posts..no one is perfect..  i think you have a particulr insight but it is not an all coclusive one.. okay, now off to bed..

Posted by: james | May 29 2026 21:03 utc | 69

Historical precedents and context are crucial in understanding the development of this conflagration. One cannot select an arbitrary flashpoint as the “cause” of the Russian SMO because previous actions leading up to the conflict have also been significant and Russian leaders are well aware of them. The following is my understanding of it, for what it’s worth.
Anti-Russian elements in the Collective West evolved into a Neocon movement backed by the world’s wealthiest financiers who are also leading investors in the US MIC and Western corporate structures including media. This movement has become powerful by controlling narratives, influencing politicians, and financing militias and terrorists to serve their aim of destroying Russia and gaining control of the world’s valuable resources, which they attempted by economic means in the 1990’s but were thwarted in 2001 by Putin’s policy reversals. This group of top financiers residing primarily in the City of London, Washington DC, and Brussels are the core of anti-Russia actors, many of whom are disaffected expat Jews.
The events leading up to the 2014 Maidan Coup must be included in any analysis of the cause of the Ukraine conflict. A violent revolt had been spawned among Fascist-leaning elements in Galicia, through Nationalist propaganda and organized groups to recruit young men and form militias that were intended to force changes in the government. This effort was covertly directed and supported by US and UK agencies, which also provided weapons, intelligence, and external contractors (including snipers) to enable the revolt.
An initial Color Revolution was not successful. The West-backed agencies pursued more violent tactics including the 2014 Coup and the the military attacks against the Donbass. Draconian measures by the Junta to withdraw social welfare and ban the Russian language inspired fierce resistance among the Russian-speaking people.  Improvised militias of sympathizers tried to defend the Russian-speaking people who were attacked over a period of 8 years and beyond, continuing to this day during which thousands of people have been killed. With minimal Russian military assistance, these defenders fought the Ultra-Nationalist aggressors into a cauldron to halt their advance. That led to the peace talks and the subsequently West-abrogated Minsk Agreements.
The whole program of Western oligarch-sponsored and government-fomented aggression against Russia (and now Iran and China) has been revealed and should be highlighted in any discussion of Russia’s defense of the Donbass. Brian Berletic at The New Atlas provides such a broad-ranging historical and territorial analysis of the big picture.https://rumble.com/c/TheNewAtlas

Posted by: norecovery | May 29 2026 21:06 utc | 70

Sorry, the paragraphs in my initial text disappeared after posting.

Posted by: norecovery | May 29 2026 21:07 utc | 71

Many folks delight in placing a great deal of focus on purported Russian “miscalculations”, very few, if any, are willing to put the same level of focus upon Western miscalculations.
 
Just to remind those whose vision is clouded by such an intense concentration on Russia’s perceived shortcomings, here is a question:
 
How many rounds of Western sanctions does it take to bring down the Russian economy ?
 
You know, we’ve been promised that Russian economic collapse is imminent, as a result of the effectiveness of sanctions, for the last four years. When’s it gonna happen guys?
 
“The ruble is rubble” said  a noble, sage and wise voice, once upon a time…
 
But nobody on the Western side ever miscalculated, ever, trust the plan, it’ll work eventually, Russia will collapse, the Putin ray-zheem will be gone! Just “trust the plan”…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 29 2026 21:09 utc | 72

fwiw here David Hendrickson´s essay on the legal issues re: Ukraine 2014/2022 from May 17 2022.
Frankly I haven´t looked into it since myself.
In case, here the pdf (bottom of page):
Sovereignty’s Other Half: How International Law Bears on Ukraine
https://peacediplomacy.org/2022/05/17/sovereigntys-other-half-how-international-law-bears-on-ukraine/
Introduction
The way in which commentators have looked upon the legal issues raised by Russia’s war in Ukraine is inadequate. Western leaders have focused exclusively on Russia’s violation of Ukraine’s territorial integrity, both in 2014 and 2022. By territorial integrity is meant the principle that every state has a right to preserve itself in its own borders against external aggression. Undoubtedly, that is an important principle of international law. It is what makes the invasion or occupation of another state’s territory a categorically unjust act. This principle alone does not fully penetrate the legal issues, however, because its standing has to be assessed alongside other important principles in international law, especially the right of revolution and the right of national self-determination.
By choosing to view the Ukraine crisis solely through the lens of territorial integrity, Western policymakers systematically overlook one critical aspect of sovereignty. The principle of territorial integrity is only the external dimension of sovereignty—the more holistic concept. It is the application of international law to the external boundaries of states. But sovereignty also has an internal dimension: the right of a people to choose the sovereign whose authority they will abide by.
 

Posted by: AG | May 29 2026 21:15 utc | 73

Somewhere there is a speech by Putin. This, I believe, was coincident with the Olympics and everyone was speculating whether Putin was going to wait until after the Olympics to invade or whether he was going to invade at all.
The speech (I will try to search it out later) had a big hint in it about whether Putin had decided to invade.
Putin said in the speech, roughly, that it is easier (or better) to push an opponent out of his own territory then to wait until that opponent is in your own territory and only then push back.

Posted by: Otto Penn | May 29 2026 21:16 utc | 74

I may be mistaken but I am sure that it was at this bar that either B (in a post) or some of the barflies in various comments back in early 2022 mentioned that Moscow had received information from Donbass sources (among them possibly the self-proclaimed independent republican governments in Donetsk and Lugansk) that Kiev had a 250,000-strong army lined up along the 2014 ceasefire lines with the Donetsk and Lugansk republics. Kiev’s clear aim was to invade these two republics and subject their people to continuous Israeli-style harassment and repression, and targeted assassinations. This was the immediate reason for Russia to carry out its Special Military Operation when it did.
 
The Russian President was later to publicly say that he regretted not starting the SMO earlier by decree. This implies that people in the Kremlin and the military had been pushing him for some considerable time – even years perhaps – to give the order. At least some of 14,000 who died in the Donbass in the eight years prior to 2022 – among them military leaders like Givi and Motorola and political leaders like Zakharchenko – might still have lived if Russia had intervened earlier.
 
The Western news media have consistently ignored the news of the presence of the Ukrainian army close to the 2014 ceasefire lines in February 2022 to the extent that nowadays their own people would be surprised if the evidence were to hit them in their faces and around their heads.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | May 29 2026 21:18 utc | 75

Codfanglers! And I did put in extra paragraph breaks, thinking that would preserve the original layout. [sigh]
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 29 2026 19:40 utc | 46

Still a good piece, thanks for (to karlof as well ofc). Maybe someone can help b  to implement either preview – as in the old blog software – or even re-editing after post, or ideally both.

Posted by: aquadraht | May 29 2026 21:27 utc | 76

I don’t understand why Ukrainians are ready to kill each other.

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | May 29 2026 21:29 utc | 77

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Posted by: Macpott | May 29 2026 21:31 utc | 78

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SMO prevented Operation Storm 2.0In another Krajina, 27 years before, NATO support enabled Croatia to restore control of its borders without giving special status to the Krajina Serbs who demanded independence from a fascist led Croatia that had itself sought independence from YugoslaviaThe scale in Donbass was much bigger, but Russia had seen the result of Storm with a fleeing population never able to return. To prevent the war from being fought inside Donbass, the SMO was designed to forestall Storm 2.0.Russia did not have the strength or full understanding of NATO perfidy in 95, but Storm and numerous color revolutions showed them and SMO was launched in the nick of time to prevent Storm 2.0. to je to
 
Dont compare the croatia war in the 90s with the Ukraine war today, total different conflicts!In a nutshell:1. Krajina Serbs (serbian minority in croatia) ethnically cleansed their region (with Croatia borders) from croatians 2. Krajina Serbs proclaimed so called “SAO Krajina”, an independent state!3. Croatian government offered special minority rights to serbians in the Krajina region to peacefully reunite with Croatia –> Krajina Serbs refused!4. Croatian army with the help of NATO (for various reasons, including the siege of Bihac, but that is another story) forcefully returned the region to put under Croatian control –> many serbians fled from this region afraid of revenge from croatian side5. after few years most of the Serbians living in that area returned to their homes again, now living peacefully together with CroatiansDont share propaganda to those who are not in the details of that conflict!Ukraine is a whole different story, not at all comparable to the Yugoslavian wars in the 90s.

Posted by: Torci | May 29 2026 21:33 utc | 79

Could not find the quote in this speech, but will continue to look.
Here is Putin’s Feb 21, 2022 speech:
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/67828

Finally, after the US destroyed the INF Treaty, the Pentagon has been openly developing many land-based attack weapons, including ballistic missiles that are capable of hitting targets at a distance of up to 5,500 km. If deployed in Ukraine, such systems will be able to hit targets in Russia’s entire European part. The flying time of Tomahawk cruise missiles to Moscow will be less than 35 minutes; ballistic missiles from Kharkov will take seven to eight minutes; and hypersonic assault weapons, four to five minutes. It is like a knife to the throat. I have no doubt that they hope to carry out these plans, as they did many times in the past, expanding NATO eastward, moving their military infrastructure to Russian borders and fully ignoring our concerns, protests and warnings. Excuse me, but they simply did not care at all about such things and did whatever they deemed necessary.

I would like to be clear and straightforward: in the current circumstances, when our proposals for an equal dialogue on fundamental issues have actually remained unanswered by the United States and NATO, when the level of threats to our country has increased significantly, Russia has every right to respond in order to ensure its security. That is exactly what we will do.
With regard to the state of affairs in Donbass, we see that the ruling Kiev elites never stop publicly making clear their unwillingness to comply with the Minsk Package of Measures to settle the conflict and are not interested in a peaceful settlement. On the contrary, they are trying to orchestrate a blitzkrieg in Donbass as was the case in 2014 and 2015. We all know how these reckless schemes ended.
Not a single day goes by without Donbass communities coming under shelling attacks. The recently formed large military force makes use of attack drones, heavy equipment, missiles, artillery and multiple rocket launchers. The killing of civilians, the blockade, the abuse of people, including children, women and the elderly, continues unabated. As we say, there is no end in sight to this.

In this regard, I consider it necessary to take a long overdue decision and to immediately recognise the independence and sovereignty of the Donetsk People’s Republic and the Lugansk People’s Republic.

Posted by: Otto Penn | May 29 2026 21:36 utc | 80

@Refinnejenna | May 29 2026 21:18 utc 
I agree. Ukraine would not have stopped in Donbas, Crimea was the next goal.
Russia saw this, there was nothing to be gained anymore, preventing tha ukrainian offensive was the only option.

Posted by: steiniplatte | May 29 2026 21:39 utc | 81

Thanks for reposting my comment. I add this to the older thread:
 
One thing I note not mentioned as a primary goal of the initial operation was the drive to capture as many bioweapon labs as possible. From March 2022 to 2024, Peter AU1 made the bioweapons his pet project and assembled a large file at his VK page which is still there, Russian MoD made presentations in 2022-4 revealing some of its findings, which were rather extensive and alarming. I wrote a few articles on the topic. Here’s my 2024 article, (18) Maria Zakharova on General Kirillov’s Murder & Past Bioweapon Info. Here’s my translation of Text of Bioweapon Lab Report Given to OSCE May 19 by Alexander Lukashevich | VK. Here’s the original report in Russian. 
 
My article contains many more links that I can’t post at one time here, so if interested visit the article. Peter’s “Maria Zakharova vs BioBiden” is linked to and also provided in-full. The development of Oreshnik and its destructive properties makes it ideal for the elimination of biolabs and bioweapons. As I opined several years ago when it became clear the Outlaw US Empire was in no hurry to upgrade its nuclear program, it appears the Empire wants to utilize newer and much cheaper bioweapons instead of nukes. That possibility hasn’t been discussed by the bar for many months but is still a very important issue that hasn’t gone away. 

Posted by: karlof1 | May 29 2026 21:40 utc | 82

Otto Penn@81:
 
“I consider it necessary to take a long overdue decision…”
 
There’s a keeper.
 
 

Posted by: John Gilberts | May 29 2026 21:46 utc | 83

EO in the OP states:
 

Professor Diesen joins Professors Roberts and Mearsheimer and a host of other authoritative sources who get that Russian invasion of Ukraine wrong. Seriously wrong, as most of the big names do. According to Diesen, that Russian invasion was a “war of aggression with unpredictable consequences”, an “egregious violation of state sovereignty”.

 
As others have noted, this appears to be an egregious misrepresentation of Diesen’s views.  I too have regularly watched Diesen’s videos, and have NEVER seen him claim such a thing.  If he has, it is important to provide a link to document it.  Until then, it should be considered to be an unfounded assertion and misrepresentational of Diesen’s (and Mearsheimer’s) views.

Posted by: strawman alert | May 29 2026 21:47 utc | 84

I’m confused about this translation of Putin’s speech. It seems quite different from
Address by the President of the Russian Federation
September 21, 2022. http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/69390 
Are these two different speeches. I didn’t have in my files the excellent one that you cite right above.

Posted by: Michael Hudson | May 29 2026 21:49 utc | 85

Exact.

However:

As an “egregious violation of state sovereignty” the accusation still stands. This in regard to UN charter and customary law. That the UN is defunct on many themes is besides the point.

So it reduces to a national civil/ethnic dispute with participation from backers (west vs Russia) and our own mere opinion of who is more right/wrong, transformed into visible cross border military intervention by Russia, compared to western clandestine activity and support of Ukraine nationalism.

As mentioned in previous post, that Russia set its sights on the whole of Ukraine in terms of political sovereignty (by outlawing certain forms of opposition), differs from the idea of setting a clear own limit and reasoning, of protecting a part of the population that is close to Russia, and its associated territory.

It isn’t that I agree with Ukrainian politics.

The NATO theme is secondary by a long way, unless we consider war with NATO as actually underway, or part of the objective, or that promoting the possibility of war with NATO as a service to NATO and EU is part of the equation.

Posted by: Ornot | May 29 2026 21:53 utc | 86

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 29 2026 18:44 utc | 20   “How is that different from your track record?”
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Pretty consistent in saying this will continue … for a long time.
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Check my post here:  Aug 6 2023 19:38 utc | 94 The West’s can continue to send weapons into Ukraine for a long time…. There is a long slog ahead.
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Aug 18 2023 10:52 utc | 156 The continued flow of weapons from the west has been the game changer.  The SMO would have been long over if that hadn’t happened.
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Aug 20 2023 15:52 utc | 60 plenty of stuff to keep this war going for quite some time. 
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Aug 20 2023 15:52 utc | 758 The West looks like it will continue to feed supplies into Ukraine to keep Ukraine in the fight
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blah, blah, blah
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And now Gripen’s?
 
 

Posted by: ed4 | May 29 2026 21:55 utc | 87

Exile | May 29 2026 20:36 utc | 66
 
Don’t forget 2004’s “Orange Revolution” which was NATO/EU driven, and then we must turn the clock back to 1945 when OSS was in contact with UPN and provided them support from that point onward along with MI6 and then CIA. Using Ukrainian Nazis has always been the West’s plan. Nothing was sudden and new after the USSR collapsed; rather, the efforts were escalated. The reality is 100% support from NATO continues, and NATO is still ran by the Outlaw US Empire despite all the attempts by the Trump Gang to make it seem that the Empire’s withdrawing. It’s not.  

Posted by: karlof1 | May 29 2026 21:55 utc | 88

Opps, last one was Aug 14 2024 14:33 utc | 758 not Aug 20 2023 15:52 utc

Posted by: ed4 | May 29 2026 21:56 utc | 89

English Outsider is creating a dichotomy where there is none.
Just before the SMO started, I was reading the spreadsheets from the OSCE, filtering small arms events and tallying the rest, every day. I published my OSCE data summaries, including my graphs of the artillery count, and an article explaining the political developments in Russia in the days before the SMO.
[https://yesxorno.substack.com/p/ongoing-report-escalation-of-conflict and https://yesxorno.substack.com/p/ukrainedprlpr-death-of-the-minsk%5D
Russian intelligence had learned of the Ukrainian plan to overrun the line of contact after an artillery saturation. Putin sought Xi’s approval in Beijing at the Winter Olympics for the overt use of Russia’s military to avoid a series of mass executions, which is what would have happened had Russia not reinforced the self declared republics. The Duma voted overwhelmingly to support Lugansk and Donetsk because the Russian people had been supporting the republics with privately orgaised donations of food, clothing etc.. I was following all of this too.
During the 8 year long civil war, Ukraine was constantly, deliberately shelling hospitals, markets, schools etc.. This is still true today (see the attack on the dormitary in Lugansk). Victoria Nuland’s muscle behind the EuroMaidan coup in 2014 were a bunch of neo-Nazi paramilitaries. These thugs now bag people off the street to send them to the front line.
The SMO is a war against Western supported neo-Nazi fascism. Zelensky is a fascist military dictator.
The SMO is also a military response to the US installation of nuclear capable missile closer and closer to Russia’s borders (Romanian and Poland). The advance reduces the number of minutes a Russian head of state has to decide whether to use Russia’s nuclear arsenal. Putin had spoken of this repeatedly before the SMO.
After Biden had agreed with Putin to not install nuclear capable missiles in Ukraine during a phone call in late December 2021, Tony “Bibi’s lawyer” Blinken revoked the agreement in January, a few weeks before the SMO began.
These are two, valid, joint Russian reasons for the SMO: Genocide prevention (i.e fighting Nazis) and preventing US nuclear missile silos being installed even closer to Russia (NATO expansion).
 

Posted by: YesXorNo | May 29 2026 22:10 utc | 90

Absolutely…The Ukraine had 21 battalions of Neo-nazi Bandera followers ready to go in and wipe out the Russian speakers, of whom they had already killed more than 15,000…The Russians barely got there in time, and caught the neo-nazis in a cauldron….Another motivation mentioned by people like Ritter was that Zelensky wanted nukes, and there were nuclear materials still in the Donbas according to some experts…

Posted by: pyrrhus | May 29 2026 22:16 utc | 91

It’s truly amazing how short lived memories can be…

Posted by: pyrrhus | May 29 2026 22:18 utc | 92

I totally agree with b’s conclusion. I was following the events in Ukraine pretty closely. My roommate in 2012 at the technical college in Chengyang w Andrei, a Ukraini who was learning Chinese with the pl of staying in China. There was also a tall girl from Odessa in our group. I think Jacques Baud has done a good job documenting the events in his books.
 
The Western politicians talk in bad faith, creating their own virtual realify universe. They are basically thieves who want to look good ans sound good. They do it because they control the elites in the media and the education system.
 
 

Posted by: Richard L | May 29 2026 22:19 utc | 93

Talking about the Donbass Defenders as ‘rebels’ is bl00dy insulting and WRONG! People have had over TWELVE years to get it right – what is wrong with THEM???
What part of ‘the DAMN yank Govt CAUSED the crisis in ukraine’, is too hard to understand??? What part of the damn yank PNAC are people still so ignorant about? What part of the damn yank original neocon wolfowitz doctrine as revealed in 1992 in the nyt, have they not bothered to find out about?
The Donbass people had every right to declare self-determination, and to defend themselves from the shit yank government, etc, & the shits in kiev. The Donbass people, and Russia, are in the Right, and the west is in the Wrong.

Posted by: Ralph | May 29 2026 22:28 utc | 94

P.S. The smm (osce) were utter shits too. On €10 000 per month, they wrote lying reports, as they were also controlled by the stinking yank govt, and lived it up in the 5 star hotel in Donetsk.

Posted by: Ralph | May 29 2026 22:33 utc | 95

There are two different speeches attributed to Putin on 22 February 2022: This one with a time stamp of 22:35 and an accompanying video and this one with a time stamp of 09:00 and no video. Note the image of the latter shows Putin wearing a different tie and the suit jacket appears to be lighter than the black in the first. In the Russian language versions, the second now has a 14-minute video and a link to the mobilization order that has a time stamp of 09:20. What I see is the first address is related to the mobilization order and the second much longer speech an explanation to Russia and the world about some aspects related to the root of the problem which contains this famous paragraph:
 

Do you want to decommunization? Well, that’s fine with us. But there is no need, as they say, to stop halfway. We are ready to show you what real decommunization means for Ukraine.

 
Yes, Putin made two addresses to the Russian people on 21 February 2022 and that’s generated its share of confusion. Putin’s speech on 24 February 2022 at the onset of what I termed Russia’s Counterattack links to what he said in his long 21 February address as he notes at its outset. The text of that speech and more is at the above lnk. 
 
 

Posted by: karlof1 | May 29 2026 22:37 utc | 96

diesen, that Russian invasion was a “war of aggression with unpredictable consequences”, an “egregious violation of state sovereignty”, he is either a bl00dy liar, or a bl00dy idiot.
“egregious violation of state sovereignty” refers to the YANK govt, and that shit fjb.

Posted by: Ralph | May 29 2026 22:40 utc | 97

AG | May 29 2026 21:15 utc | 74
 

By territorial integrity is meant the principle that every state has a right to preserve itself in its own borders against external aggression. Undoubtedly, that is an important principle of international law. It is what makes the invasion or occupation of another state’s territory a categorically unjust act. This principle alone does not fully penetrate the legal issues, however, because its standing has to be assessed alongside other important principles in international law, especially the right of revolution and the right of national self-determination.

This is a great argument and I remember it from back in ’22, when we were having these same discussions. Two questions arise, however:
1) Would my esteemed fellow barmates extend the right to self determination to, say, the great people of Taiwan, Hong Kong, Xinxiang, Chechnya, Kurdistan (from Iran, Iraq, and Türkiye), California, Hawaii, etc.? 
2) Under what conditions does the right to revolution and self-determination supersede the rights of the state to self-preservation and union? 

Posted by: Caliman | May 29 2026 22:42 utc | 98

 Caliman | May 29 2026 22:42 utc | 99
 
Lavrov has explained the territorial integrity issue as dealt with in the UN Charter numerous times and is tied to the merits of the governance of that territory as to whether it has the right to govern. Currently, the Outlaw US Empire isn’t a legitimate government because it’s an outlaw under both UN and its own domestic law; thus, the citizens have every right to secede, which is the same law used by the Donbass Republics. That’s why when Russia, China, Iran, and all other Global Majority nations say the UN Charter must be applied in its totality, not cherry-picked as the West likes to do to justify their illegalities.     

Posted by: karlof1 | May 29 2026 22:56 utc | 99

While I hold much respect for Ritter and others, mainly because he has the guts to stick his neck out, I don’t really see anything that new in any of these revelations, it’s been the same for years. There are a number of somewhat phonies in the alternative media that say one thing but represent the other as there are similar types making comments on here. It’s the best way for anyone to disguise their real motivations.

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | May 29 2026 22:59 utc | 100

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