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May 21, 2026
Open (Not Ukraine or Iran) Thread 2026-103
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Democrats fighting for Segregation is crazy. Posted by: Dogon Priest | May 21 2026 20:30 utc | 1 Democrats fighting for Segregation is crazy. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 21 2026 20:42 utc | 2 Thank you, b, for guiding us away from re-re-considerations of what look to be Trump’s blind alleys. I would like to pick up on this open forum what seems to be a reworking of some of our more absolute truths such as expressed by Putin and Xi in their Joint Declaration following their recent summit meeting in China.
Posted by: juliania | May 21 2026 21:12 utc | 3 The next in line Isntreal PM Bennett has called for a new larger Hasbara force to counter negative reports.
Posted by: Suresh | May 21 2026 21:22 utc | 4 After Castro Charges, Critics Ask: When Are Indictments Coming for Trump-Hegseth ‘Extrajudicial Murders’? “Apparently you’re not allowed to kill people in international waters now?” said one progressive organizer. Over the last eight months, at the direction of President Donald Trump and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, the US military has bombed at least 57 boats and killed close to 200 people—among them fishermen, a young man known in his town for his indoor soccer playing, and working people who had recently struggled to make ends meet—in what human rights experts have called “murders” and extrajudicial killings. Posted by: Menz | May 21 2026 21:26 utc | 5 Whatever happened to the “National Commission of Inquiry” into the failures of Oct 7th?
Now, after two years of war in Gaza, and with a fragile cease-fire in place, the Israeli government is advancing legislation to hold an inquiry into the events of Oct. 7.
In a speech in Parliament on Monday, Mr. Netanyahu said that his proposal had a “broad consensus” among the public and was “the only way the truth will come to light,” but he acknowledged that the parliamentary opposition vehemently opposed the plan.
Posted by: Otto Penn | May 21 2026 22:13 utc | 6 @Posted by: Otto Penn | May 21 2026 22:13 utc | 5
Posted by: Otto Penn | May 21 2026 22:24 utc | 7 Thomas Massie defeat in Kentucky is truly a shame. He was the only Republican that stood up against the MAGA Republic Party and fought with Khan to release the Epstein File. Shame how this rigged election happened especially with the suspicious flood of last minute Mail In Ballots from the Nursing Home bedridden Boomers. Posted by: KillerDoll | May 21 2026 23:05 utc | 8 Beside Advanced Chips and Jet Engine. What technology that China doesn’t master yet? Posted by: KillerDoll | May 21 2026 23:15 utc | 9 Posted by: Suresh | May 21 2026 21:22 utc | 4
Posted by: General Factotum | May 21 2026 23:56 utc | 10 I see there’s been almost no discussion about the very important Joint Declaration and Joint Statements that were issued at the end of the Putin/Xi Summit. I’ve rectified that somewhat with Xi & Putin, Russia & China Declare Collective West’s Failure that includes the Declaration’s entire text, a key portion of the Statement, and some general analysis. I see there’s been almost no discussion about the very important Joint Declaration and Joint Statements that were issued at the end of the Putin/Xi Summit. Posted by: General Factotum | May 22 2026 0:24 utc | 13 I see there’s been almost no discussion about the very important Joint Declaration and Joint Statements that were issued at the end of the Putin/Xi Summit. Posted by: karlof1 | May 21 2026 23:59 utc | 11 Posted by: GeorgeWendell | May 22 2026 0:55 utc | 14
Posted by: Asian Frog | May 22 2026 1:18 utc | 15 @ 11. Dear Karl Posted by: Suresh | May 22 2026 1:23 utc | 16 General Factorum Posted by: Suresh | May 22 2026 1:52 utc | 17 I see there’s been almost no discussion about the very important Joint Declaration and Joint Statements that were issued at the end of the Putin/Xi Summit. I’ve rectified that somewhat with Xi & Putin, Russia & China Declare Collective West’s Failure that includes the Declaration’s entire text, a key portion of the Statement, and some general analysis. Posted by: juliania | May 22 2026 2:30 utc | 18 Here’s my first post on the axios thread: Posted by: juliania | May 22 2026 2:41 utc | 19 And here’s my second on axios:
Thank you karlof1 for the Lavrov excerpts you have posted emphasizing UN Charter principles . I agree with you on the plan of action, as I posted in my comment linking to Pepe’s explanation at Judging Freedom. Posted by: juliania | May 22 2026 2:47 utc | 20 Last but not least:
Posted by: juliania | May 22 2026 2:49 utc | 21 Thanks for the replies! Posted by: karlof1 | May 21 2026 23:59 utc | 11 Posted by: Sebgo | May 22 2026 4:53 utc | 23 Sebgo | May 22 2026 4:53 utc | 44— Posted by: karlof1 | May 22 2026 5:05 utc | 45 Posted by: Sebgo | May 22 2026 5:09 utc | 25
Perfect! Posted by: Otto Penn | May 22 2026 5:22 utc | 26 Economy angle of the Putin -Xi meeting by Varoufakis and Munchau. Posted by: Suresh | May 22 2026 5:27 utc | 27 Posted by: Suresh | May 22 2026 5:27 utc | 48 Posted by: Suresh | May 22 2026 5:31 utc | 28
The Likudniks are sure doing a bang-up job of ruining life for ordinary Israelis. The Hannibal Massacre is just one atrocity in a long chain. Posted by: Exile | May 22 2026 5:42 utc | 29 Truthline: Prof Danny Shaw: ‘The Imminent Cuban Invasion’ Posted by: John Gilberts | May 22 2026 5:49 utc | 30
Indeed.
Does this Holocaust episode not remind you of the Rave Party goers of Oct 7th who were blasted by Israeli Apache helicopters.
Posted by: Otto Penn | May 22 2026 5:56 utc | 31 6 past leaders of Shin Bet conclude the occupation makes Israelis LESS safe Posted by: Exile | May 22 2026 6:32 utc | 32 I quote the following because it applies to what I have been going on about in relation to how the now memoryholed passage when US/UK and the west was behind the Islamic revolution in Iran in 1979 Posted by: petergrfstrm | May 22 2026 7:05 utc | 33 Macro Rubio says Cuba poses a national security threat to the US and designated it as a state sponsor of terror. Posted by: KillerDoll | May 22 2026 7:14 utc | 34 Armored cars are now moving gold out of Bolivia’s central bank. Posted by: unimperator | May 22 2026 7:16 utc | 35 I predict the Myanmar Tat Army will launch an offensive on TNLA territory in Shan state to capture towns and villages around Lashio within a month as the test bed for their newly equipped Russian drone and Russian trained drone teams. Posted by: KillerDoll | May 22 2026 7:31 utc | 36 @35, thanks. Posted by: Suresh | May 22 2026 7:38 utc | 37 Macro Rubio says Cuba poses a national security threat to the US and designated it as a state sponsor of terror. Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 22 2026 8:53 utc | 39 To killer Doll: Posted by: Hot Carl | May 22 2026 10:32 utc | 40 In India, an entity, “Cockroach Janta Party” has garnered 20 million followers on Instagram in 2 days right after its X handle was banned. The entity got massive GenZ support after a national medical entrance exam was cancelled because a question paper was leaked. Posted by: India-Guy | May 22 2026 10:50 utc | 41 From The River to The Sea Posted by: DunGroanin | May 22 2026 11:14 utc | 42 https://ria.ru/20260522/ukraina-2093886788.html
What (else) do I kneed to know of Mikhail Leontyev? Is he aware that Churchill was also a Russophobe who wanted to destroy Russia via Operation Unthinkable? What are they teaching in schools in Russia? And wasn’t there once a write-up implicating the USA and Britain as the real villains of WWII? Posted by: joey_n | May 22 2026 11:43 utc | 43
Posted by: malenkov | May 22 2026 12:52 utc | 44 Posted by: karlof1 | May 22 2026 3:26 utc | 22
Posted by: juliania | May 22 2026 13:49 utc | 45 juliania, Posted by: Exile | May 22 2026 14:00 utc | 46
Posted by: juliania | May 22 2026 14:17 utc | 47 “… when you were in College in NZ did you wear those curious hats and school Blazers? ” Posted by: juliania | May 22 2026 14:25 utc | 48 At the oldest county fair (Bierfest) on earth in Erlangen Germany that Starts Tomorrow – 12 long time party songs have suddenly been banned. the list …. Posted by: Exile | May 22 2026 14:44 utc | 49
Posted by: Exile | May 22 2026 14:48 utc | 50 Mordsgaudi for all with Dj Exile. Crank up to 11. No Means Yes and These Ain’t No 20 Centimeters rocking the beer tent to its foundations. Posted by: persiflo | May 22 2026 15:52 utc | 51 There should be a Humanity’s Survival Manual and in the appendix should be this article in its entirety.
Don’t stop there. Keep reading, survival matters. Posted by: Otto Penn | May 22 2026 16:25 utc | 52 I reported on the nuclear FTX that took place while Putin was in China and concluded with his participation upon his return. That was supposed to be a signal to NATO. Crooke in his chat today with Danny Davis explains why we should take note. And with the attack on the school dormitory that killed at least 5 Russian students that coms atop several other direct attacks aimed at civilians, IMO Alastair’s analysis ought to be closely listened to so we can understand what may very well happen next since Russia cannot allow that shit to continue particularly with the SPIEF to occur in two weeks.
Posted by: Exile | May 22 2026 16:50 utc | 55
Posted by: malenkov | May 22 2026 18:08 utc | 57
There is so much more, of course, and again it is so apropos to today! Posted by: Otto Penn | May 22 2026 19:06 utc | 58 No kidding, Exile. I’ve blarred No Means Yes just once, and now a flock of German youth have gathered behind my house to play a Trinkspiel. Posted by: persiflo | May 22 2026 19:06 utc | 59 Otto Penn@52: Posted by: John Gilberts | May 22 2026 19:24 utc | 60 This is a comment on the Trust The Fall page on facebook This week, the Israeli state committed a brazen act of piracy in international waters by violently abducting the Global Sumud Flotilla. During this flagrant violation of maritime law, over 400 international activists delivering aid were detained, zip-tied, and subjected to severe physical, psychological, and sexual abuse by Israeli forces. In this sickening act, Ben-Gvir publicly insulted all the leaders, governments and armies of countries – whose citizens participated in the flotilla – and he was so pleased and proud of his work, he uploaded it onto his own X account for all the world to see – thereby abusing them in front of the whole world. Let us be absolutely clear about the grotesque pantomime playing out before the eyes of the world: the State of Israel, a rogue, blood-drenched garrison masquerading as a democracy, has once again exposed its true, barbaric visage, aided and abetted by an American empire built on the bones of the oppressed. And America plays the global mafioso by supplying the bombs, forming an axis of impunity, providing the diplomatic cover, and the billions of dollars required to sustain an apartheid regime that slaughters children by the thousands and starves millions. Israel then demands the world’s applause for its “right to defend itself,” marking them as a monstrous partnership of colonial arrogance that is drowning in the blood of Gaza. Since 2007, Israel has maintained an illegal air, land, and sea blockade on Gaza, like a rusted iron lung slowly depriving its captive of breath, effectively turning it into the world’s largest open-air concentration camp for millions of civilians. WikiLeaks cables historically exposed the horrifying fact that Israeli officials calculated the exact minimum caloric intake required to keep Gaza’s population perpetually on the brink of starvation without causing an outright collapse. This state acts as an unchecked political contagion that erodes the very foundations of international justice, weaponizing accusations of antisemitism to silence any individual or nation that dares to challenge its relentless brutality. Thank goodness the “rules-based international order” allows for military forces to board civilian ships in international waters to beat up activists, otherwise we might start to think international law only applies to America’s enemies. We must all applaud the sheer bravery of the heavily armed IDF commandos who valiantly protected the fragile Israeli state from the existential threat of unarmed international grandmothers carrying medical supplies on a boat. Ben Gvir’s sadistic viral video is not a departure from the norm but a crystal-clear distillation of the settler-colonial mindset that has brutalized the indigenous people of Palestine for over seven decades. Netanyahu said yesterday: “Israel has every right to prevent provocative flotillas of Hamas terrorist supporters from entering our territorial waters and reaching Gaza. However, the way that Minister Ben Gvir dealt with the flotilla activists is not in line with Israel’s values and norms.” Following the autumn of 2023, the regime’s expenditure on state propaganda—the infamous Hasbara machine—has exploded, burning through more than a billion dollars, a desperate coat of white paint slapped over a crumbling, blood-stained mausoleum. As their genocidal acts expand, they are frantically hemorrhaging cash to mask their plummeting international legitimacy. The Sumud Flotilla torture and humiliation incident has turned into one of the biggest propaganda disasters and political scandals Netanyahu’s government has faced since the beginning of the Gaza genocide. I suppose that the uproar has only happened because the people captured are not Palestinians… Nevertheless, The world’s attention is back on Gaza thanks to these brave people, a sudden flare illuminating a desolate landscape of deliberate erasure. If this is what they are doing to Westerners while the cameras are rolling, imagine how they are treating Palestinian hostages behind closed doors; this visible brutality is merely a brief tear in the velvet curtain revealing the torture chamber behind it. Meanwhile, right now in Gaza, a suffocating, lethal constriction strangles every facet of existence. Critical shortages of fuel, the shuttering of communal food centers, dwindling supply lines, and skyrocketing costs converge with ceaseless aerial assaults, ground incursions, and pervasive, paralyzing terror. Residents appear systematically driven toward absolute, total disintegration. Gazans have abandoned thoughts of tomorrow, consumed entirely by the feral, desperate necessity of surviving the present. Mundane survival—securing a crumb of bread, sustenance for their offspring, life-saving medication, or the fleeting illusion of safety—has devolved into a brutal, unending nightmare. Ultimately, the barbaric treatment of these activists in international waters will backfire, serving only to awaken a dormant global conscience and accelerate the total political and moral isolation of the rogue Israeli state, a fortress of hubris seems to be finally beginning to collapse under the weight of its own rot. Championing rogue, unfiltered truth-telling that actively dismantles the occupying regime’s manufactured lies has never been more desperately needed. Such uncompromising transparency shatters the empire’s sterile, whitewashed propaganda, hauling the horrific civilian death count and the rotting, imperialist architecture of US-Israeli hegemony away from backroom cover-ups and directly into the unforgiving glare of public consciousness. THE TRUST FALL Posted by: ld | May 22 2026 19:53 utc | 61 sorry about the spacing Posted by: ld | May 22 2026 19:55 utc | 62
https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/israel-constantly-stretches-the-ceasefire Posted by: Otto Penn | May 22 2026 20:06 utc | 63 Otto Penn, Posted by: Exile | May 22 2026 20:33 utc | 64 @Juliania #18 “Philosopher kings they may not be, but I’d say they come pretty close.” Vladimir Nabokov, in his early English-language experiments, produced a number of lively profiles of old, wretched Russian aristocratic émigrés, trying to navigate through their new country and the diverse community of exiled compatriots. They were usually presented as excessively bigoted, and rearward-thinking, to the point of being at odds even with indigenous fascists. At the same time, they were shown as embarassingly (at least from Nabokov’s petty liberal standpoint) proud of the Soviet military might, and even more so of its determined leadership. Undoutedly, some of them viewed Stalin as a class enemy, but a paradoxical “spiritual strongman”, as well. Even Nabokov however, failed to depict a precise portrait of a “babushka” wannabe, who tries to surpass in every form the original models, from a distance of a century and several thousands kilometers, no less! The problem, for people “ouside the loop”, is that the random mix of classical Western references and generic Orientalism, comes off as the most Anglo-Saxon and least Russian thing possible… But after all, even Thoreau was an offender in this sense. Nobody’s perfect, I guess… Posted by: MoaMetal | May 22 2026 20:34 utc | 65 Crack down on opposition leaders in Armenia. Posted by: Suresh | May 22 2026 20:42 utc | 66 Anyone following the Canadian, Mark Chapman over at the New Kremlin Stooge? Posted by: Suresh | May 22 2026 22:05 utc | 67 Revealed: USAID, NED & Open Society Quietly Bankroll Cuba’s “Independent” Media In Push for Regime Change Posted by: Menz | May 22 2026 22:06 utc | 68 AFP urged to investigate IDF soldiers in Australia Human rights organisations have warned that Australia may become “a safe haven for persons alleged to have committed the most serious international crimes” unless the federal government investigates Australian-Israeli dual nationals who may have committed war crimes in Gaza. IDF soldiers free to enter, leave Australia Posted by: Menz | May 22 2026 22:11 utc | 69 Vale Caroline Graham. Posted by: Menz | May 22 2026 22:16 utc | 70 People are increasingly living in fear for being Palestinian or speaking out against the atrocities and genocide of Palestinians: Posted by: Menz | May 22 2026 22:27 utc | 71 Counter Currents – Larry Johnson chats with Catherine Austin-Fitts about the market shenanigans going on behind the scenes while the world is bedazzled by the Ramadan Wars. In short, Epstein lives on and the plans are not good for us… Posted by: ChatNPC | May 22 2026 23:38 utc | 72 @58 Otto “…how is it possible for this small clique to bend the will of the majority, who stand to lose and suffer by a state of war…” By presenting a sense of injustice at the same time as making people think they will lose more by not going to war. i.e. ‘You will lose more by not following what we say than by fighting them’ You might think people could not be that stupid, and you would be right, because the ‘not following what we say’ is coercive and not voluntary, both by fear of breaking the civil norm (hence exclusion or criminalisation) and because dissent places a person ‘in the enemy camp’ . I’m not sure about mass psychosis, equally it is just some illusion where each individual comes to believe that that is what others are all believing. Once a moral bar is lowered, then that becomes the new norm, as in ‘it’s ok to hate so and so’ . So basically a self reinforcing perversion of a natural sense of justice, where what an individual gets subjected to (coercion and associated resentment) is projected as the fault of the enemy. Einstein did advocate for the use of nuclear weapons at one point iirc , so I guess Freud didn’t find an adequate answer for him. Anyway, that is all just one theory…. Posted by: Ornot | May 23 2026 0:21 utc | 73 Posted by: MoaMetal | May 22 2026 20:34 utc | 65 Posted by: juliania | May 23 2026 0:22 utc | 74 Posted by: michaelj72 | May 23 2026 0:31 utc | 75 🙂 Happy insider trading Friday! Hope you can scratch some investment birdseed for you and your family and you win the birdseed lottery. I would think this form of exchange seems odd and unfair, but humans have strange habits and an impressive tolerance for needless suffering. Posted by: titmouse | May 23 2026 0:54 utc | 76 ‘NO DATA CENTRE’ ( & vid) Posted by: John Gilberts | May 23 2026 1:46 utc | 77 😀 And Happy World Goth Day! Posted by: titmouse | May 23 2026 2:21 utc | 78
Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 23 2026 2:34 utc | 79 “All over the world cats make friends with cats and nowhere in the world do cats make friends with mice.” Posted by: John Gilberts | May 23 2026 3:50 utc | 80 Why haven’t I seen anything on MoonofAlabama about HondurasGate? Did I miss seeing something? Is this a hoax? Milei, Netanyahu, Hernandez (pardoned by Trump at Israeli request), and Asfura to work on regime change information operations against Columbia, Mexico, and Brazil and to enlarge US military presence in Honduras – to be funded by Milei and Israeli interests. Posted by: Belle | May 23 2026 5:05 utc | 81 Belle@81: Posted by: John Gilberts | May 23 2026 7:23 utc | 82 82 corrected: Hondurasgate Posted by: John Gilberts | May 23 2026 7:26 utc | 83 BAR: Margaret Kimberley & Maurice Carney: Ebola in DRC Posted by: John Gilberts | May 23 2026 7:41 utc | 84 possible reasons why nothing much good happens in America or Israel
Posted by: unsightfulviews | May 23 2026 7:42 utc | 85 84: BAR corrected: Posted by: John Gilberts | May 23 2026 7:43 utc | 86 This amazing Cuban medicine and more is now being strangled and smothered to death by The Great Satan, USA… Posted by: John Gilberts | May 23 2026 9:13 utc | 87 Posted by: John Gilberts | May 23 2026 3:50 utc | 80 Posted by: Duck n cover | May 23 2026 13:39 utc | 88 Duck n cover@88: Posted by: John Gilberts | May 23 2026 14:02 utc | 89
Posted by: malenkov | May 23 2026 14:32 utc | 90 Nicolas Kristof wrote an opinion piece for the NYT in which he wrote that Israeli soldiers/prison guard are raping palestinian prisoners. Posted by: WMG | May 23 2026 14:58 utc | 91 In this article there is a cartoon in which Netanyahu says “How dare you to report my genocide”. Posted by: WMG | May 23 2026 15:04 utc | 92 Search with the words “Nicolas Kristof, New York Times, Israel, rape palestinians” with e.g. GOOGLE. Posted by: WMG | May 23 2026 15:07 utc | 93
@Posted by: John Gilberts | May 23 2026 9:13 utc | 87
Then I found this:
Posted by: Otto Penn | May 23 2026 15:57 utc | 94 @Posted by: Otto Penn | May 23 2026 15:57 utc | 94
If your kidneys aren’t doing their job the doc might give you EPO. Expect that EPO could be given for other reasons besides kidney issues. Posted by: Otto Penn | May 23 2026 16:06 utc | 95 Sounds like EPO is mean stuff:
https://www.drugs.com/sfx/epoetin-alfa-side-effects.html Posted by: Otto Penn | May 23 2026 16:15 utc | 96 EPO is notorious as a performance enhancing drug in endurance sports such as cycling.
Posted by: persiflo | May 23 2026 16:37 utc | 97 Posted by: malenkov | May 23 2026 14:32 utc Posted by: lachaussette | May 23 2026 16:43 utc | 98 Posted by: persiflo | May 23 2026 16:37 utc Posted by: lachaussette | May 23 2026 17:31 utc | 99 Otto Penn@94: Posted by: John Gilberts | May 23 2026 17:40 utc | 100 |
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