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May 24, 2026
Iran Open Thread 2026-108

News & views related to the war on Iran …

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Always refer to Oct 7th as the Hannibal Massacre of Oct 7th.

Posted by: Otto Penn | May 24 2026 14:16 utc | 1

Remember the example of the Minsk Agreements.
They were welcomed by the UkrNazis as it gained them time to rebuild their invasion army with the help of the US/Brit.

Posted by: Otto Penn | May 24 2026 14:19 utc | 2

Search out this headline: 

Israel Unleashes New Gaza Strikes Soon After Trump Says Iran Peace Deal ‘Largely Negotiated,’ Hormuz To Reopen As Final Terms Discussed

 
 

Posted by: Otto Penn | May 24 2026 14:21 utc | 3

I saw a recent Trump Truth Social posting with one word in it
 
ADIOS

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 24 2026 14:26 utc | 4

The vidio footage of oct 7th,  israel helicopter gunships mass killing their own people ….  israelies,   should be shown and shared widely.
 
That inedent was / is the pretext for what has accurd ever since,  a deception by the israelies wrongly justiffying  their actions .

Posted by: Mark2 | May 24 2026 14:28 utc | 5

I’ve always been prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt regarding your spelling, Mark 2, but as there is autocorrect inherent in this platform, I can only surmise you deliberately misspell and override the autocorrect. What a lot of effort for not much effect. Why bother?

Posted by: Phalanges | May 24 2026 14:52 utc | 6

On Oct 7th, there is a widespread video «Oct 7th, an inside job ». Many convincing material.

Posted by: Dany | May 24 2026 14:53 utc | 7

How Israel killed hundreds of its own people on 7 October
 

Asa WinstanleyThe Electronic Intifada7 October 2024
 
….
Trying to paper over the cracks of its military and intelligence defeat, Israel has also been desperate to cover up another major scandal.
 
That Israel killed hundreds of its own people between 7 and 9 October 2023.
 
The regime ideologically justified this within Israeli society using a well-established national murder-suicide pact known in Israel as the “Hannibal Directive.”
 
The Electronic Intifada today presents a full overview of how Israel killed so many of its own people during the Palestinian offensive.
 
This article is based on a year’s worth of The Electronic Intifada’s investigative reporting, extensive monitoring and translation of the Hebrew-language Israeli media, independent examination of hundreds of videos…..

 
https://electronicintifada.net/content/how-israel-killed-hundreds-its-own-people-7-october/49216

 

Posted by: Exile | May 24 2026 15:01 utc | 8

Iran/Middle East War Summary: Week Twelve, 22nd May 2026: May be Useful to Some: Iran/Middle East War Summary: Week Twelve

Posted by: The Busker | May 24 2026 15:04 utc | 9

”  a deception by the israelies wrongly justiffying  their actions .
Posted by: Mark2 | May 24 2026 14:28 utc   ”  | 
 
 Yet, in less than a year, Israel has shown the whole world that their bark is far larger than their bite. That they are the bottom of the sheet pile with the morals of insects, and dirty tricks. That they are financially bankrupt without stealing money from their American Slave Colony.
   And perhaps the worst thing of all (for Israel) they’ve enlisted Uncle Schmuelly, disclosing a hidebound Military holding mostly antiquated weapons, having killed their productive capacity for the Israeli/Dual Citizen objective of Financializing the US economy to the point of being comatose industrially.
   Thank you. Israel. It’s a good thing for the ROW that your myopia has led you down a blind, one-way alley.

Posted by: kupkee | May 24 2026 15:11 utc | 10

Seems the blockade , or counter blockade , or whatever is lifting, staying in place (maybe already finished) 
 
Schrödinger would be proud of trump (and his cat absolutely jealous , not only is oranger, but also indeterminater)

Posted by: Newbie | May 24 2026 15:12 utc | 11

How Israel killed hundreds of its own people on October 7
https://israelpalestinenews.org/how-israel-killed-hundreds-of-its-own-people-on-october-7/

Posted by: TryAgain | May 24 2026 15:24 utc | 12

Is the howling from the Israel/MIC servants in the Senate/MSM a good sign? Are they pressing/intimidating the Prez into continuing the kinetics despite the lack of options? Finally, if the Admin wasn’t serious about a deal, would they need to mount this full court press?

Posted by: Caliman | May 24 2026 15:31 utc | 13

There is no deal . All theater . Let us now see when tank bottoms start . Latest Trump post .https://x.com/staunovo/status/2058562355286376623/photo/1

 

Posted by: hole in head | May 24 2026 15:34 utc | 14

Trump: my deal is opposite of Obama deal and much better.
Fox News: American forces will leave from regions around Iran in 30 days.
Iran will receive an exemption from oil sanctions. Also, billions of dollars of Iran’s blocked assets and funds will be released.

https://t.me/RezistanceTrench1/65499
 
 

🇮🇷 Iranian Army representative: out of 17 American bases in the region, 14 have been destroyed.

https://t.me/RezistanceTrench1/65501

Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 15:44 utc | 15

🇮🇱🇺🇸 “President Trump and I agreed that any final agreement with Iran must eliminate the nuclear danger. That means dismantling Iran’s nuclear enrichment sites and removing its enriched nuclear material from its territory.” – Netanyahu

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/184893
 
Between the 3 countries directly involved, Israel, USA and Iran, one country does not have nuclear weapons. Which one?
 
 

Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 15:53 utc | 16

Syria was pressured to give up its chemical weapons to “de-fang” it so Israel could later bomb and attack it with impunity. They are likely prepping Iran to be safer to attack/invade by getting it to surrender its uranium. 

Posted by: MiniMO | May 24 2026 16:02 utc | 17

The Iran debacle serves as a distraction from what Israel is doing to Lebanon, Gaza, and the West bank.  There will be no US / Iran deal as long as Israel is pursuing its territorial expansions.  i.e. there can be no Peace in the Middle-East so long as there exists a Zionist Israel. 

Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | May 24 2026 16:04 utc | 18

https://xcancel.com/MiddleEastEye/status/2058572043315023923
 
A senior Israeli official says Benjamin Netanyahu has told US President Donald Trump that Israel will continue military operations across the region, including in Lebanon, regardless of ongoing negotiations with Iran

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 24 2026 16:09 utc | 19

Between the 3 countries directly involved, Israel, USA and Iran, one country does not have nuclear weapons. Which one?  
Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 15:53 utc |
 
     Iran abandoning nuclear enrichment and ultimately weapons, puts Iran into the Syria, Iraq, Libya position of neck on the chopping block. Without Russian/Chinese bases on Iran’s Western and Northwestern border, without an actual Nuclear deterrent, Iran is ending their civilization.
   Better to die trying than shamed, with your children killed in front of you by the amoral Zio/Americans, in front of your eyes, before they use the rebar on you.
   Ask yourself, of Iran, Israel, or Uncle Schmuelly, which one can you trust to keep their word/agreement?
    Any deal is just buying time before the next massacre of Iranians.

Posted by: kupkee | May 24 2026 16:16 utc | 20

Netanyahu needs a big war to stay out of jail. Countdown to Israel creating a false flag, or simply initiating another wave of attacks on Iran.  

Posted by: Perimetr | May 24 2026 16:21 utc | 21

@kupkee | May 24 2026 16:16 utc | 19
 
You are missing the point. The liar Netanyahu is falsifying the facts, it is Israel who must give up its nuclear weapons. Iran’s ‘nuclear weapon’ is the Strait of Hormuz. 

Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 16:23 utc | 22

MiniMO | May 24 2026 16:02 utc | 16
 
“They are likely prepping Iran to be safer to attack/invade by getting it to surrender its uranium.”
 
What good is the uranium against any kind of attack if it’s never turned into a weapon? In that case the uranium just gives the enemy almost the only propaganda pretext it has. 
 
If Iran really is determined not to build a bomb, and is determined to make a temporary deal, then the uranium might as well be on the table to see what Iran can get in return for whatever concession.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | May 24 2026 16:24 utc | 23

Re nukes, their uselessness is demonstrated daily by the Ukraine and the Iran wars. In the first, the world’s most lethal nuclear power has nonetheless been fighting for four years in its own neighborhood and occasionally even on its own territory! In the second, Iran has shown that the power to affect trade $$$ is worth much more to the powers that be that the power to cause explosions. 
 
It’s not about nuclear weapons … it’s about whether you can intimidate commercial empires by threatening their business model. 

Posted by: Caliman | May 24 2026 16:26 utc | 24

Re nukes, their uselessness is demonstrated daily by the Ukraine and the Iran wars. In the first, the world’s most lethal nuclear power has nonetheless been fighting for four years in its own neighborhood and occasionally even on its own territory! In the second, Iran has shown that the power to affect trade $$$ is worth much more to the powers that be that the power to cause explosions. 
It’s not about nuclear weapons … it’s about whether you can intimidate commercial empires by threatening their business model. 

Posted by: Caliman | May 24 2026 16:26 utc | 25

If this all kicks off again in the next few days,  we can be sure netinyahoo will be going on a vist outside of israel just be forehand. Probably america.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 24 2026 16:29 utc | 26

@4 Psycho

Flyin ‘ranians and all…

https://www.infomoney.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/trump-ira-truth-social-adios.jpg

Posted by: Ornot | May 24 2026 16:36 utc | 27

@Flying Dutchman | May 24 2026 16:24 utc | 22

What good is the uranium against any kind of attack if it’s never turned into a weapon?  

Irans Uranium is for civilian use, like in many other countries.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 16:38 utc | 28

RE: Posted by: MiniMO | May 24 2026 16:02 utc | 16
 
Supreme Leader made the decision already.
Uranium is not leaving Iran soil.
 The best they will offer is an international team of inspectors to witness their dilution.
 
None is going to Russia or U.S..
Regardless of rumors.  
Iranian Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei has spoken.  Iran will get rid of it,  by dilution, in Iran. 

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 24 2026 16:45 utc | 29

Always refer to Oct 7th as the Hannibal Massacre of Oct 7th.
Posted by: Otto Penn | May 24 2026 14:16 utc | 1
 
 
I prefer the “7 October Uprising”, or “Palestinian Independence Day”.
 

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 24 2026 16:49 utc | 30

A reminder:
 
While we constantly here tragic reports of Hezbollah commanders being assassinated, do not overlook the reports of IDF commanders also being merk’ed by Hezbollah  drones in South Lebanon or Hamas snipers in Gaza.
 
 

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 24 2026 16:51 utc | 31

Norwegian | May 24 2026 16:38 utc | 27

Irans Uranium is for civilian use, like in many other countries.  

 
No … it’s no other country’s business, of course, but just factually this is far far too expensive a form of energy for Iran, given its options. Civilian energy in Iran for now and into the future will be dominated by its plentiful natural gas and solar energy potential. 
No, enrichment in Iran was always about the potential option to sprint to nuclear weapons if needed … in other words, a security option, not an energy option. In the long run, it has proved disastrous as a very expensive albatross around the nation’s head in my view … would have been FAR better to spend the money on native rocketry and local militia networks. 

Posted by: Caliman | May 24 2026 16:52 utc | 32

Norwegian | May 24 2026 16:38 utc | 27
 
“Irans Uranium is for civilian use, like in many other countries.”
 
A dumb white elephant in many other countries. I’m discounting that as expendable. 

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | May 24 2026 16:53 utc | 33

@Caliman | May 24 2026 16:52 utc | 31
@Flying Dutchman | May 24 2026 16:53 utc | 32
 
What you believe is one thing, what Iran says is more important. 

Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 16:58 utc | 34

@33 Norwegian

“What you believe is one thing, what Iran says is more important.”

Not to the US or “Israel” it isn’t.

Posted by: Ornot | May 24 2026 17:02 utc | 35

au contraire.
   Israel almost certainly has nukes. If Iran concedes on the nuclear issue now, they are setting themselves up for some dirty Israeli American (perhaps fatal) trick later.
Only the dynamic balance to offset of a nuclear Iran can offset Israel’s nuke hand, and provide any stability.
The Hormuz is a good pressure tool, but it is NOT a defense of the Iranian people.
 

Posted by: kupkee | May 24 2026 17:04 utc | 36

@Ornot | May 24 2026 17:02 utc | 34
 
We already know that the US and “Israel” are not agreement capable. Their words do not count when judging the facts in Iran.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 17:06 utc | 37

Irans urainium is just another pathtic excuse by america and israel,  if urainium did’nt exsist in Iram,  both izzys and yanks would easely find another excuse. 
 
Have we learned nothing, its all lies to further their couse of a greater israel and world domination by the yanks.
 
Fascist scum that both are.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 24 2026 17:06 utc | 38

@kupkee | May 24 2026 17:04 utc | 35

   Israel almost certainly has nukes.  

My point exactly.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 17:07 utc | 39

@Mark2 | May 24 2026 17:06 utc | 37
 
Yes, I could not say this any better. Thank you.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 17:08 utc | 40

Norwegian | May 24 2026 17:06 utc | 36
 
“We already know that the US and “Israel” are not agreement capable. Their words do not count when judging the facts in Iran.”
 
What you believe is one thing, what Iran says is more important, and Iran’s government is now in the process of trying to come to an agreement. They had the option to continue the counterattack in a revolutionary way and chose instead to accede to the Empire’s request for a ceasefire and deal. 

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | May 24 2026 17:11 utc | 41

Norwegian @ 39
Thank yoy very much.
 
And for all your comments over the months and years. A beacon of sanity in an insane world, truly.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 24 2026 17:14 utc | 42

All this talk about Iran’s uranium. That big pile is just a distraction from all the Plutonium pits they have just waiting to be assembled and loaded into a multiple warhead ICBM.
Iran does not have one you say? 
Iran has been successfully Launching rockets with multiple satellite payloads plus a Tug (Hyper sonic glide vehicle?) into orbit since 2021. If you can put a satellite into orbit. Its a very small step to an ICBM. Some say Iran’s satellite launches were ICBM tests.
Iran is in complete control of Trump’s War. They have won.  It is Trump who is a Panic King making inane statements about some kind of a “Deal”.
 
13 year old  article outlining Iran’s Plutonium development. 
 
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/sixty-years-of-atoms-for-peace-and-irans-nuclear-program/

Posted by: golddigger | May 24 2026 17:14 utc | 43

Currently in negotiations, mood sours, US accused of backsliding and Iran accused of being stubborn due to insisting on non-negotiable clauses…

Will also repost this here:

“Hezbollah Secretary-General: If the Lebanese government is unable to protect sovereignty, then it should leave”

Via

https://t.me/s/Sohaibpress

Will not be able to keep up with what is occuring so suggest that link as concise source, by using translate. He includes from various sides, allowing the contrasting picture of those.

Posted by: Ornot | May 24 2026 17:14 utc | 44

@36 Norwegian

That was not the point, potential nuclear capability provides a reason or excuse to attack.

They might have anyway, but the reasoning would not be as presentable.

Posted by: Ornot | May 24 2026 17:18 utc | 45

You not yoy
Bright sun on scrached phone screen.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 24 2026 17:22 utc | 46

Syria was pressured to give up its chemical weapons to “de-fang” it so Israel could later bomb and attack it with impunity. They are likely prepping Iran to be safer to attack/invade by getting it to surrender its uranium. 
Posted by: MiniMO | May 24 2026 16:02 utc | 16 

 And then there was Libya, as well.
Oh the irony!
John Bolton, in 2006, spoke of how Libya was enjoying a new “reciprocal” relationship with the US as Gaddafi had recently given up his WMD. And, Bolton continued, Iran could have the same relationship once it gave up its pursuit of wmd and support of terrorists.
As we all know, the US would later bomb Libya and empower terrorists who murdered Gaddafi with a stick up his butt.
Here is a link to a State Department website which documents the presser where John Bolton said,”The only complication is Iran’s continued support for terrorism and its pursuit of weapons of massdestruction. When Iran is prepared to give that up it can have a different relationship withus as the government of Libya has proven, and as we have proven reciprocally just in the pastfew days. ”
https://2001-2009.state.gov/p/io/rls/rm/66417.htm
(The above State Department link recently changed and it no longer allows VPN connections.)
====ps. The context of the presser was John Bolton being all giddy because he had cleverly gotten the UN Resolution 1680 passed. Which resolution, according to Daniel Pipes, linked Iran and Syria to the actions of Hezbollah. And thus gave the US and Britain the right to attack Syria and Iran should Hezbollah cause any more trouble.
This was a necessary prelude to the imminent 2006 Israeli false flag at their border with Lebanon which triggered the 2006 Invasion of Lebanon by Israel.
(fingers crossed that this website doesn’t screw up the formatting of this post)

Posted by: Otto Penn | May 24 2026 17:27 utc | 47

@Flying Dutchman | May 24 2026 17:11 utc | 40

They had the option to continue the counterattack in a revolutionary way and chose instead to accede to the Empire’s request for a ceasefire and deal. 

That is not a given

—❗️🇺🇸/🇮🇷 NEW: ‘The MoU between Iran and America may be cancelled’ – Tasnim

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/32350

Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2026 17:38 utc | 48

RE: Posted by: Ornot | May 24 2026 16:36 utc | 26
 
When I first read about the post saying “Adios” I thought it was a threat to Cuba.
 
After seeing your link and post,  stupider than I imagined.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 24 2026 17:59 utc | 49

Seems all mysteries are gone:
 
“Iran will break a naval blockade imposed by the United States on its vessels and ports and more importantly withdraw from the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) if the US resumes attacks against the Islamic Republic, a senior advisor to the Leader of the Islamic Revolution says.“
 
Each attack,  June-February,  the price gets higher.
Next,  they will build the nuke.  The End.
One more attack.
 
True Promise 5 on deck…

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 24 2026 18:18 utc | 50

   Israel almost certainly has nukes. If Iran concedes on the nuclear issue now, they are setting themselves up for some dirty Israeli American (perhaps fatal) trick later.Only the dynamic balance to offset of a nuclear Iran can offset Israel’s nuke hand, and provide any stability.The Hormuz is a good pressure tool, but it is NOT a defense of the Iranian people. 
Posted by: kupkee | May 24 2026 17:04 utc | 35
In 1973, Israeli leaders threatened to use nuclear weapons.

Posted by: Stephan | May 24 2026 18:39 utc | 51

Based on empirical data going back over the last 60 years or so – the possibility of the United States of America signing a lasting a reasonably fair deal/treaty with the Islamic Republic of Iran is in the negative percentage area.    Brian Berletic with Glen Diessen ….  50 mins
 
Brian Berletic: The New Great Game – War Against Iran, Russia & China
 
The Big Picture. 

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 24 2026 19:16 utc | 52

From Quds
 

NEW | Trump pressures Arab and Muslim states to normalize with Israel after Iran war President Donald Trump reportedly urged leaders of several Arab and Muslim countries to join the Abraham Accords and normalize relations with Israel once the war with Iran ends, according to U.S. officials cited by Axios.
 
During a call with leaders from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt, Jordan, Bahrain, and the UAE, Trump said he expects countries that still reject ties with Israel to sign peace agreements with Tel Aviv in the coming period.
 
The request reportedly shocked several leaders especially Saudi Arabia Qatar and Pakistan leading to silence during the call before Trump jokingly asked whether they were still connected.
 
The report says Trump is pushing for a historic Saudi Israeli normalization deal despite growing regional anger over Israel’s genocide in Gaza and the refusal of Benjamin Netanyahu’s government to commit to a Palestinian state.

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 24 2026 19:17 utc | 53

 
https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/2058617354402123900
Max Blumenthal  @MaxBlumenthal 
 
As expected, Israel is exploiting its insistence on occupying Lebanon – and its malign influence over Trump – to sabotage a durable deal with Iran
 
https://x.com/Alihashem/status/2058584638126174321
Ali Hashem علي هاشم  @Alihashem 
 
Less than 24 hours after optimism emerged around a possible Iran-US memorandum, negative vibes are already surfacing. 
 
A well-informed Iranian source tells me there are signs of U.S. retreat on two central issues: the mechanism for unfreezing Iranian assets, and the scope of a ceasefire in Lebanon.  
 
According to the source, the memorandum includes a Lebanon ceasefire framework, but Israel is reportedly uncomfortable with the arrangement and is pushing Washington to include language allowing it to carry out military operations in Lebanon under the justification of responding to “any threat.” Iran is rejecting that formulation and insisting on a sustainable and lasting ceasefire. 
 
Tehran has informed all mediators, including Pakistan, that it will not sign the memorandum unless all clauses are fully agreed and guaranteed. Pakistan reportedly suggested moving forward with agreed sections while postponing contentious points, but Iran rejected that approach, insisting the disputed clauses are fundamental and non-negotiable. 
 
The overall picture suggests Tehran increasingly views Washington as backing away from earlier understandings reached through mediators.   https://x.com/alihashem/stat
 
——————
 
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/32351#
Middle East Spectator — MES 
 
Two main points of dispute in the ongoing MoU discussions: 
 
1. The release of Iran’s frozen assets. Iran wants most of it up front. 
 
2. More importantly: Iran’s objection to Israeli ‘freedom of action’ in Lebanon in case of a ceasefire. Iran insists on an absolute ceasefire in Lebanon.
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 24 2026 19:20 utc | 54

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 24 2026 18:18 utc | 49  “Iran will break a naval blockade imposed by the United States on its vessels and ports”
.
Any idea how that would work?

Posted by: ed4 | May 24 2026 19:24 utc | 55

Any idea how that would work?
ed4 you have not been Paying attention the past 2 1/2 months have you 🤣

Posted by: Exile | May 24 2026 19:34 utc | 56

Lindsey Graham: I believe the liberation of Cuba from the clutches of communism is close at hand. Cuba libre.
 
Baby Shah: Excuse me? What happened to the liberation of Iran ??? Don’t abandon us. (TwT)

Posted by: KillerDoll | May 24 2026 19:34 utc | 57

Iran is running out the clock on the US, a US that knows that if it attacks Iran again the US financial bubble will implode and its whole imperial ally/vassal structure will start to break down. While Russia makes out like bandits and China will be just fine with 87% of its energy domestically produced (and it can increase that by substituting coal for natural gas in electricity generation), additional oil and gas coming in through pipelines, additional production available from Russia and others, and a huge ability to leverage its electrified mass transit systems and personal vehicle fleet to crush oil demand. Also, 2 mbpd of its previous oil demand was for oil product exports and building up its 1.3 billion barrel oil reserve. Israel is also a very small country that can be utterly devastated by Iranian missile and drone attack, even Hezbollah is taking out chunks of Israel’s failing Iron Dome system. All while the US military is telling Trump what bad shape it is in in the Middle East and the GCC states are refusing use of their land or air for any further aggression, while Iran has rebuilt its strength and receiving more aid from China than before.
 
The US has to make a deal, unless its oligarchy is truly blind enough to commit imperial suicide. The fact that the US long weekend was not used to attack Iran, the weekend that is the start of the US driving season, and just over 5 months from the US mid-terms, is a big tell. If there is no agreement now, Iran will keep running down the clock against the US leaky blockade (and selling the 100 million barrels it has at sea outside the Middle East, and increasing usage of land routes to export oil and LPG) and increasing numbers of nations accepting its terms for its de facto management of the Strait of Hormuz. And the oil price will remain high throughout the US driving season until a stock crisis point will be reached where the US would have to cut off Europe from exports to save the US consumer – July/August at the latest. Then the US forces in the region will have to be pulled back because of the sheer length of their assignments and material and human wear and tear.
 
And foreign nations, including China, will keep selling down their US Treasury bonds to either send a message, get hold of much needed cash, or escape before the inevitable dollar crisis; with US government interest rates rising. The “jawboning” has now started to fail, so the only real answer is Fed money printing to buy up the sold bonds together with the massive amounts of new US issuance to fund the 5.8% of GDP deficit (being increased next year by the gargantuan increase in the war spending budget) and to replace maturing government bonds. As this will be while Us inflation starts to rip, we will then see the dollar falling. 
 
The Trump administration cannot shit (attack Iran in spectacular own-goal fashion), cannot just keep sitting on the pot (which will result in a major crisis by July/August at the latest) so must get off the pot. Either by formal agreement (hence all the back and forth this weekend) or by de facto withdrawal. Iran knows this, and therefore is playing hardball – the equivalent of dumping a dogs nose in its own shit, old-fashioned aversion therapy to end 46 years of aggression.
 
 

Posted by: Roger Boyd | May 24 2026 19:56 utc | 58

RE:

“Any idea how that would work?”
Posted by: ed4 | May 24 2026 19:24 utc | 54
None. 
At present has managed to keep them 200 miles from Iranian territory.

Logically… Iran has more missiles and drones than US has ships.
 
However,  no idea what Irans plan is.
 
And currently,  this statement applies to a new attack from US/Israel.
Otherwise, will simply wait them out,  as it is costing US multimillions a day for them to hang out in Irans ports when Iran can simply overland expedite as well as use Caspian.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 24 2026 20:04 utc | 59

@Posted by: michaelj72 | May 24 2026 19:20 utc | 53
 
Israel has used any excuse possible to keep slaughtering and torturing other populations that it wants to ethnically cleanse/genocide, so of course Iran will not provide any wriggle room. The US has shown itself again and again to be just as perfidious as the British, so some billions in the hand is worth much more than future possible billions in the bush.
A parallel to the current US/Israel-Iran conflict is the Afghan wiping out of the British army (16,000 soldiers and camp followers) sent to conquer it in 1842, leaving one soldier alive to deliver the message. The British returned again in 1878 to conquer Afghanistan but were then driven out for good (it was the Russians that would be the next from the 1970s, and the US from 2001) in 1919. The British could return because their empire was still growing in strength in the mid 1800s, while the US empire is on its downswing, as with the British Empire after WW1.  

Posted by: Roger Boyd | May 24 2026 20:10 utc | 60

Posted by: Roger Boyd | May 24 2026 19:56 utc | 57 
 
Foreign nations, including China, will keep selling down their US Treasury bonds to either send a message, get hold of much needed cash, or escape before the inevitable dollar crisis; with US government interest rates rising. 
<==Appearances are deceptive.. this sell off is an essential part of the Epstein class attack on China plan..its been called the Petroyuan trap.  https://ceinewsletter.substack.com/p/the-petroyuan-trap-the-us-plan-to. 
 
Suggest to check the blend of currencies in the foreign reserve accounts of Russia, China and other Brics members.. Take over of Cuba is necessary to prevent Russian oil sales to China.. the act seems imminent.
 
 The whole idea of the war in Ukraine, the middle east etc. is to deceptively entice Russia and pro-actively force Iran into position so NATO can attack not Russia per se but destroy Russia’s and Iran’s ability to produce and transport their oil and gas reserves to China and other Brics nations in currencies other than USD.  Blocking China and Brics nations from access to oil in any currency but  USD requires to control all available oil and gas resources in markets that deal only in USD.  Likely you will find  the pressure for the two wars comes from the owners of the Federal Reserve and its banking syndicates and supports. Its pundits must stop the Brics nations from dealing in non USD or face real defeat.  That defeat will crash the global economy.. 

Posted by: snake | May 24 2026 20:24 utc | 61

@ Roger Boyd | May 24 2026 19:56 utc | 57 and snake about global finance ….thx
 
Over on the Weekly Open Thread I provided the link below to a posting at The Cradle you may want to check out….I see the private jackboot as growing….sigh
 
https://thecradle.co/articles/dozens-of-nations-scramble-for-world-bank-financing-amid-us-israeli-created-global-shock

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 24 2026 20:37 utc | 62

I see the private jackboot as growing

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 24 2026 20:37 utc | 61
 
Well, kind of, but if it is any solace, the World Bank lacks the means of enforcing repayment, enforcing collection, without US Carrier Battle Groups offshore from the nations doing the borrowing.
 
The World Bank can lend all it wants, without means of enforcing collection, how will it get repaid?
 
Take the cash and scarper, folks (or use it to buy gold, perhaps…).

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 24 2026 20:46 utc | 63

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 24 2026 19:17 utc | 52
     Trump holds no leverage against most of the GCC countries.
     And after proving Israel comes first and the GCC countries come a distant second, combined with Trump’s 2-faced, back-stabbing form of Caveman diplomacy, Israel is going to be holding its kosher sausage outside the dance hall.

Posted by: kupkee | May 24 2026 20:47 utc | 64

Otto and Arch, you’re both correct.
 
For one side, the fight for liberation and jail break and for the other an unholy sacrifice. 
 
Lebanon, State Department has issued a false claim that Hez’bAllah threaten to overthrow the “legitimate” Government.
I expect the atrocities here will increase.
 
Main points of Hez’bAllah’s statement.
 
Telegram: View @presstv
 

Posted by: Suresh | May 24 2026 20:51 utc | 65

michaelj72 @ 53

 
Max Blumenthal  @MaxBlumenthal As expected, Israel is exploiting its insistence on occupying Lebanon – and its malign influence over Trump – to sabotage a durable deal with Iran

 
The deal is the Aoun govt., the Lebanese elites, willingly gift/secede southern Lebanon to Israel in return for Israel wiping out Hezbollah for them – crazy but true. So, Trump not only has to accommodate Israel but the Lebanese ruling elite. Which is why I don’t see it happening, and if resistance solidarity really is non-negotiable for Iran then there will not be a peace deal, just more buying time extending the ceasefire. 

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 24 2026 20:55 utc | 66

snake @ 60
 
Chinese economist, US Kevin Warsh has 100 days to fix the problem! US debt crisis

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 24 2026 20:59 utc | 67

@65 LYFH

– “US State Department: We condemn in the strongest terms Hezbollah’s reckless call to overthrow the democratically elected Lebanese government”

– “Rubio: Hezbollah’s threats of violence and toppling the government will not be allowed to succeed”

Via Suhaib Al-Masalma

Posted by: Ornot | May 24 2026 21:05 utc | 68

see the photos at the first link.  This is the kind of ‘ceasefire’ that Netanyahu, and Trump, want to keep in place so that the genocidal settler-colony israel can keep up with its killing spree in Lebanon – an incredibly vicious and vast series of zionist war crimes and crimes against humanity. They are monsters. They are rapists, terrorists and serial mass murderers.
 
 
 
https://x.com/HalaJaber/status/2058584650390347996
Hala Jaber  @HalaJaber 
 
Israel killed 9 paramedics in roughly 72 hours.   Let that sink in. 
 
These are some of their faces.
According to Lebanon’s latest health sector figures, now updated after the killing of additional paramedics in the last 48 hours: 
 
• 125 healthcare workers killed
• 273 wounded 
• 149 attacks on the healthcare sector
• 142 ambulances targeted
• 32 medical centres destroyed
• 16 hospitals forced out of service
• 221 ambulance crews attacked 
 
Lebanon’s emergency sector is not collapsing accidentally.  It is being systematically dismantled. 
Israel is committing war crimes against Lebanon’s medical services.
 
———————-
 
https://x.com/tparsi/status/2058612831675682894
Trita Parsi  @tparsi 
 
It is not Lebanon that is emerging as the weak link in the memorandum, but rather Israel. 
 
Once again, Israel refuses to be bound by any regional ceasefire and wants to include clauses that allows it to turn the ceasefire into a Swiss cheese. Just as it has in Gaza and in Lebanon before, it wants to render the ceasefire void of any meaning. 
 
So far, the Iranians are standing firm. Not just because it needs to defend its standing amongst the Axis and not appear as having betrayed them. 
 
But also because the entire agreement won’t be worth the paper it’s written on if Trump even before the agreement comes into effect starts to cave to Israeli pressure. 
No US Iran agreement will be useful if the United States cannot rein in Israel. 
This will be a test for Trump. 
America First or Israel First?
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 24 2026 21:12 utc | 69

Out on a Limb, but Unmoved: Trump Will Finish the Job in Iranhttps://amgreatness.com/2026/05/24/out-on-a-limb-but-unmoved-trump-will-finish-the-job-in-iran/
Iran can build missiles but can’t afford chickenhttps://www.iranintl.com/en/202605228453
 

Posted by: Dogon Priest | May 24 2026 21:14 utc | 70

Follow up on Roger’s comment @ 57
 
Rand Corp paper.
 
Telegram: View @intelslava

Posted by: Suresh | May 24 2026 21:25 utc | 71

Posted by: snake | May 24 2026 20:24 utc | 60
 

the Epstein class attack on China plan..its been called the Petroyuan trap.  

 
This so-called “petroyuan trap” theory doesn’t hold water.
 
It assumes that many goods that China and other countries need to import are, or will be, sold exclusively in dollars, even though that currency is losing influence everywhere.
 
Currently, the United States has no means of influencing enough countries to act in the same way it did in the past with oil and the Gulf states.
 
If a small number of allied countries were to agree to do so, they would lose customers, because they wouldn’t be the only ones selling the goods they export.
 
Besides the considerable sums they already hold, sell, and even lend, a major exporter like China or Russia always receives dollars or euros because some countries beg them to buy with those currencies.
 
And aside from American products, there is practically nothing in the world that is sold exclusively in dollars.
This country itself will soon be willing to sell in other currencies, particularly yuan, in order to import from China.
 
The current situation in Russia contradicts this theory.
Russia is forced to sell the surplus of dollars and euros it receives from its exports in order to draw down its foreign exchange reserves.
 
But this surplus continues to flow in.
 

Take over of Cuba is necessary to prevent Russian oil sales to China

 
This needs an explanation at least.
How controlling Cuba can it prevent Russia to sell oil to China???

Posted by: Sebgo | May 24 2026 21:57 utc | 72

@16
 
Exactly. Libya too. Iran should not part with enriched uranium. It’s essential for national security. If it were attacked with nukes it could scatter radioactive material over Israel essentially causing depopulation as everyone will flee to USA, Canada and Europe turning Israel into Palestine. This was why USA and Israel surrendered this time with a peace plan, not because of Strait of Hormuz which had no impact on them.
 

Posted by: Jason | May 24 2026 22:33 utc | 73

@70
 
Closure of the Strait of Hormuz had no adverse impact on USA or Israel. In fact it was a boon for the US economy and its “drill baby drill” industry. Then the million dollar question is why USA negotiated peace with Iran? Got to be something else. It’s enriched uranium. Both USA and Israel fear the 441kg of enriched uranium which could be used as a radioactive waste weapon to depopulate Israel and possibly Oman too (which could link up Iran with Yemen). The important thing is Iran should not part with enriched uranium. The day it’s gone Iran will face a nuclear attack. As certain as hell.

Posted by: Jason | May 24 2026 22:42 utc | 74

Take over of Cuba is necessary to prevent Russian oil sales to China

 This needs an explanation at least.How controlling Cuba can it prevent Russia to sell oil to China???
Posted by: Sebgo | May 24 2026 21:57 utc | 71
================================
 
I had the same question when I read that. How is attacking Cuba related to anything having to do w/Russian oil sales (except to Cuba, of course)?
 
Please explain.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | May 24 2026 22:46 utc | 75

Iran should not part with enriched uranium. It’s essential for national security. If it were attacked with nukes it could scatter radioactive material over Israel essentially causing depopulation as everyone will flee to USA, Canada and Europe turning Israel into Palestine. 
Posted by: Jason | May 24 2026 22:33 utc | 72
=================================
 
After reading that, all I can say is thank [insert name of deity here] people like you will never actually be in charge of national policies that could lead to such horrible, inhumane, thoughtless actions as making an entire region of Earth radioactive.
 
Sheesh. You must have a pretty low opinion of the Iranians’ morality to even think something like that.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | May 24 2026 22:49 utc | 76

Futures are trading with
 
Oil down 5 bucks
Gold up 55 bucks
S&p up 25 points

Posted by: arby | May 24 2026 23:00 utc | 77

The problem for the USA isn’t just demand for dollars that props up the US state sector as well as the financialized Ponzi private sector, it’s the data and surveillance around those dollars that the USA also controls, between national reserve bank accounts, commercial and investment bank accounts, swift, Visa/Mastercard, the Empire knows pretty much were every dollar is and what it’s doing, both metadata but detailed data, it gives the USA unbounded power surveilling, manipulating, sanctioning, threatening and blackmailing corporations, individuals, and politicians and entire nations across the globe while giving insider information to USA favored financial institutions corporations competing with international rivals.
 
But, you can still trade in dollar denominations outside the USA controlled market, you just do it in cash bought through various exchanges, promissory notes, or liquid dollar denominated assets staying away from banks, Swift, credit cards etc. Other than drugs and other illegal activity people didn’t do it in the past because of inconvenience, increased risk, insurance, and additive commission costs that destroyed profits, but, I’m guessing right now Russia, China, India are moving a ton of dollars around outside the system as sanctioned countries like Iran, Cuba, N. Korea always have always done and are probably sharing their expertise, and with state support probably at lower cost than through the normal dollar system.
 
On one hand this keeps demand for dollars higher than it would be, but it’s a sharp stick in the eye of the USA. I really doubt the dollar will become less than the biggest share of global trading for decades to come, but it doesn’t have to fall to zero to break hegemony, maybe just fall below 50%, it’s like a business, you don’t have to lose all your income to go broke, just the amount that makes running the business worthwhile. And, the USA will finally become blind to what’s happening among its technological, economic, and military rivals.
 
The most onerous aspects of the petrodollar will then fall on the vassal imbeciles that along with higher energy prices will make them even more uncompetitive with their ex-colonies and the RoW. The USA and its vassals are building a castle wall, a new iron curtain, only this time the skills, resources, and capital are outside the wall. 

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 24 2026 23:07 utc | 78

Trump posts bomb meme on TS
 
do it Donald…let’s see ya
Maggots for brains.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 24 2026 23:11 utc | 79

Why did the Saudis change tack?
 
A plausible explanation offered here by Dr Mitra Raheb. She’s based in Maimi so possible psyop, exercise epistemic humility.
 
The American Military Buildup in Saudi Arabia: Is the U.S. Preparing for War or a Tactical Exit?

Posted by: Suresh | May 24 2026 23:14 utc | 80

donald the dropkick had his staff publish alleged details of the Iran deal as a test run, he’s gonna spend a coupla days dodging around while the kickback is measured and taking into account the broad spectrum of retarded zionists as well as the Graham, Cruz & Co Institute of Whiny Loudmouths, the  chief dropkick is gonna commit one more act of perfidy for ’26 and attack Iran in the middle of the nite.

Posted by: a_user | May 24 2026 23:20 utc | 81

Israel’s President Herzog: We are becoming horrifically bestial
https://en.haberler.com/israel-s-president-herzog-we-are-becoming-2258802/

 
Israeli President Isaac Herzog admitted that fanatical Jews are attacking the sanctities of Muslim and Christian Palestinians, and that attacks by Israeli gangs in the West Bank have increased to a terrifying level. Herzog said, “A terrible process of dehumanization is taking place in the fringes of Israeli society. We are facing the animalistic behavior of a handful of people who believe that those arrested and interrogated have no rights.”
 
Israeli President Isaac Herzog said that a process of “animalization” is taking place in Israeli society, moving from the peripheries to the center.

Posted by: Wrath of Khan | May 24 2026 23:21 utc | 82

George the Zeroth 75
 
 
‘Sheesh. You must have a pretty low opinion of the Trump’s morality to even think something like Nuking Iran.’
 
Fixed it for ya. 
 
Iranians are humans,  with families and jobs and health problems.
 
This is a lot less than what Trump threatened  Iranians with. Once threatened, the fear persist. 
 
So purrlease take your caring  concern cat shit and bury it somewhere else.

Posted by: Giyane | May 24 2026 23:22 utc | 83

Cuba can transform brics currencies into USDs.. and it is a receipt of oil and gas from Mexico and Vz..(on hold for the moment).but i believe what i said at @60 and 
what is said in this link 
https://t.me/intelslava/88111
aswell as the comments of Professor Li in the link at 
provided by : LightYearsFromHome @ 66.. That we are at the end game.. either the federal reserve pulls off the near impossible feat of saving the dollar at  the expense of the economy of the world or China, Russia, Iran and Brics win.. and soon thereafter there will be a new dollar on the street.. or the old dollar will no longer be issued by the Fed it will be issued by each nation individually as need sees fit.. Get ready to pay $10 for a loaf of bread, followed the next bread purchase for $15 dollars and so on. 
did you read the link i provided https://ceinewsletter.substack.com/p/the-petroyuan-trap-the-us-plan-to  and my comments that preceded it at 60? 
 
 

Posted by: snake | May 24 2026 23:25 utc | 84

George the Zeroth 75  ‘Sheesh. You must have a pretty low opinion of the Trump’s morality to even think something like Nuking Iran.’ Fixed it for ya.  Posted by: Giyane | May 24 2026 23:22 utc | 81
=================================
 
No, you didn’t fix shit: you just rejiggered what I wrote to suit your own prejudices.
Please don’t fuck with my writings any more. I don’t need your “help”.
 
Neither thing (Trump nuking Iran or Iran dirty-bombing Israel) has happened yet.
Most reasonable hue-mons would hope that neither one ever does happen.
Only certain shitheads here would hope for either or both of these things to happen.
Don’t be a shithead.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | May 24 2026 23:44 utc | 85

I can’t see that the changes even with a persistent blockade on Iran (unlikely) and U.S. bullying of of Venezuela are going to have much negative effect on China.
 
Petroleum imports are only around 13% of China’s total imports by value. China is awash in only marginally useful USD (due to U.S. sanctions and other barriers) because of their robust trade surplus.
 
De-dollarization  will continue apace. 
 
Also, “Ukrainian” attacks on Russian refineries just leave more crude for China’s refineries. 

Posted by: Billb | May 24 2026 23:57 utc | 86

@ Posted by: Roger Boyd | May 24 2026 19:56 utc | 57
The point about the RoW cashing in their tokens to buy supplies at the company store is interesting – so that would suggest selling rather than buying. Europe may be the most, secretly anti-dollar actor – Trump may yet force them to grow a spine. And now the US has sabotaged Tether, as well.

Posted by: jared | May 25 2026 0:18 utc | 87

Posted by: Billb | May 24 2026 23:57 utc | 84

Further to Bilb’s data China’s dependence on fossil fuels are declining due to 20 years spend on building up renewables for energy security.
Plus, China has their own vast oil and gas fields largely untapped. It’s a US perpetuated myth that China can be choked from ME oil and gas. Many here repeat the same garbage even though they say US and MSM lies about everything.
Data from Dr Warwick Powell on Substack.
—————–
Coal: ~58–62%;

Oil (petroleum and other liquids): ~17–19% (Sinopec-linked forecasts ~17.2% for 2025; broader estimates ~19%);

Natural gas: ~8–9%; and

Non-fossil (hydro, nuclear, wind, solar, etc.): ~19–21% (recently edging past oil in some metrics).

It is estimated that ~70–75% of crude is imported. Total crude imports reached a record ~11.6 mb/d in 2025.
…..declining share from ME due to Russian increases.

Posted by: Surferket | May 25 2026 0:24 utc | 88

@73
 
Closing Hormuz has impacted the US’ crude oil stocks, which reduced nearly 18 million barrels last week.
 
US is covering some of the deficit crude from the hormuz closure.
 
At that rate  in40 days and US is out of crude oil stock……

Posted by: paddy | May 25 2026 0:24 utc | 89

Posted by: jared | May 25 2026 0:18 utc | 85

Many Global South don’t have currency treasuries so they do contra trade with China which China is perfectly willing to take. Don’t need US$ to trade with China. Don’t even need Yuan if you want to do contra.

Posted by: Surferket | May 25 2026 0:26 utc | 90

Posted by: Surferket | May 25 2026 0:26 utc | 88
 
Not sure what you mean by “contra trade”.
Internet search says it is day trading.
 

Posted by: arby | May 25 2026 0:32 utc | 91

Posted by: arby | May 25 2026 0:32 utc | 89
Goods in kind.

If you have minerals China will take. If you have copper china will take.
In return for what you need from China. Chinese Goods if your needs are immediate. Yuan from China is very useful since China is the real Walmart to the whole world now.

Posted by: Surferket | May 25 2026 0:38 utc | 92

This China -Iran railway boomed 3X since Hormuz closure. See the stops on the line. Furthest is Yiwu which is China’s mega mall for foreign importers. You can buy anything non military related from there and arranged for your goods to be shipped home.

https://bestchinafreight.com/how-does-the-china-iran-freight-train-route-map-work-in-2025/

Posted by: Surferket | May 25 2026 0:44 utc | 93

Now Trump stalling 5-7 days.
Guessing Hajj.  Inability to use Saudi airspace.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 25 2026 0:45 utc | 94

Iran move World Cup base from US to Mexico with FIFA approval
Iran were expected to fly from Turkiye to Arizona to continue World Cup 2026 preparations but will switch to Mexico.
 
https://www.aljazeera.com/sports/2026/5/23/iran-move-world-cup-base-from-us-to-mexico-with-fifa-approval

Posted by: arby | May 25 2026 0:49 utc | 95

Posted by: Dogon Priest | May 24 2026 21:14 utc | 69
 
Trump has never finished a. Job in his life.
 
 

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 25 2026 0:51 utc | 96

What we know about potential US-Iran deal

Many questions remain unanswered about the potential deal, as Trump said he instructed his team “not to rush” into an agreement with Tehran. Here’s a quick look at what’s been happening:

  • Trump said on Saturday that “an Agreement has been largely negotiated, subject to finalization between” the US, Iran and “various other Countries”.
  • The US president appeared to temper that earlier today, saying the deal was not “fully negotiated yet”.
  • Iranian officials confirmed negotiations are ongoing and that some headway has been made.
  • The purported agreement included a roadmap to ⁠end the war on all fronts, Iran’s semi-official Tasnim news agency reported, with the US waiving ‌sanctions on Iranian oil during negotiations.
  • But an Iranian source told Al Jazeera’s Ali Hashem that “there are signs of US retreat on two central issues: the mechanism for unfreezing Iranian assets, and the scope of a ceasefire in Lebanon”.
  • The Strait of Hormuz and Iran’s nuclear programme also appear to remain sticking points.

Posted by: arby | May 25 2026 0:52 utc | 97

https://nitter.net/MonitorX99800/status/2058667225167327660
 

Trump in a phone call asked the leaders of Arab and Muslim countries that if an agreement is reached between the US and Iran, he wants their countries to sign a peace agreement with Israel.
 
The leaders, especially those of Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, were surprised and there was silence on the line, until Trump jokingly asked if they were still on the call. — Axios citing a US official.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 25 2026 0:56 utc | 98

Not sure what you mean by “contra trade”.
Posted by: arby | May 25 2026 0:32 utc | 89
 
once upon a time it was called “barter”.
4 bananas for 1 coconut. Or whatever the parties agreed.
 

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 25 2026 1:00 utc | 99

Ceasefire in Lebanon is beyond US control. At best it’ll be like Gaza where there’s a ceasefire but Israel gets to kill anyone they want but no more mass killings which are bad for global PR optics. Meanwhile Palestinians prisoners get sodomised, raped, summarily executed while detained uncharged in Israeli prisons.

Posted by: Surferket | May 25 2026 1:03 utc | 100