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April 7, 2026
War On Iran: – Trump Threatens Genocide – More Tit-for-tat Bombing

As the world was waiting for President Donald Trump to TACO from his threat to destroy Iran he upped his madman strategy by threatening to genocide its people:

A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have Complete and Total Regime Change, where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen, WHO KNOWS? We will find out tonight, one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the World. 47 years of extortion, corruption, and death, will finally end. God Bless the Great People of Iran!
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I find it no longer useful to attempt any interpretation of such threats. They are likely a reaction to the failed Isfahan operation.

After that above threat was posted Iran froze all diplomatic and indirect communication channels with the U.S.

Meanwhile the war continues at heightened intensity.

Yesterday Israel again attacked Iran’s largest industrial oil and gas installation in the South Pars field.

Retribution came fast. Israeli installations at Neot Hovav in the Negev desert were attacked. Saudi Arabia’s Al Jubail industrial area is on fire as are at least three major oil/gas sites in the Emirates.

This morning the U.S. (again) struck some 50 targets on Kharg Island in what I consider a preparation for an imminent invasion likely to follow this night.

Israel hit ten Iranian railway stations around Tehran to isolate the city.

The “Jewish State” also struck the Rafie Nia synagogue in Tehran. It seems to have been an intentional target.

Iran has published a quite sensible 10-point plan to end the war:

Iran’s 10-point plan includes:
1. Guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again
2. Permanent end to the war, not just a ceasefire
3. End to Israeli strikes in Lebanon
4. Lifting of all US sanctions on Iran
5. End to all regional fighting against Iranian allies
6. In return, Iran would open the Strait of Hormuz
7. Iran would impose a Hormuz fee of $2 million per ship
8. Iran would split these fees with Oman
9. Iran to provide rules for safe passage through Hormuz
10. Iran to use Hormuz fees for reconstruction instead of reparations

Iran had previously asked for full U.S. reparation payments for the damage the war has caused. To instead insist on using Hormuz passage funds is a sensible retreat from a hardline position.

With Iranian consent more ships are quietly passing through the Strait of Hormuz.

Whatever might happen Iran wont give up on not closing but controlling Hormuz for very good reasons.

The U.S. deploys additional HIMARS artillery to the Middle East.

Comments

Thanks everyone for your comments: a useful survey of opinions. (Yes, even the silly ones).
Not much analysis of real digestable military info on the conflict though, unfortunately.  Except a bit coming out of asia.  Would be interesting to learn what really happened on the Ford.

Posted by: branflakes | Apr 8 2026 2:17 utc | 701

Trump has real power and uses it. 
Posted by: Giyane | Apr 8 2026 2:09 utc | 690
 
Yeah.  And look where it got us.  The US seems to be quite a bit worse off than before Trump used his power to sucker punch Iran.  US and Israel vs Iran, and all three lost.  Though if Iran rebuilds reasonably quickly, Iran could end up being a HUGE winner.  The title of “Nation that Stood up to the US and Lived to Talk About it” works as long as the nation is not in shambles after the battles end.  They have a lot of rebuilding to do.

Posted by: Woke American | Apr 8 2026 2:18 utc | 702

Why China will not support Iran openly… yet.
China views Iran as naive.
 
The Cradle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo-rlHVT0Tw
 

Posted by: ld | Apr 8 2026 2:19 utc | 703

477 Patroklos — “nothing ever happens”.
But that’s in Heaven.
 

Posted by: Lavieja | Apr 8 2026 2:19 utc | 704

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 8 2026 1:43 utc | 658
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IMO, some backchannel phone calls were made that will remain secret influenced Trump along with the recent defeats.
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<=I read that Kim threatened to Nuke a Florida golf course if Trump carried out his threats against Iran.. ?
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Any chance this threat stopped the festivities?

Posted by: snake | Apr 8 2026 2:20 utc | 705

Its not a victory for anybody. 
Posted by: Giyane | Apr 8 2026 2:15 utc | 697
 
In war strategic objectives are either met or they are not. War is policy with other means, and if those policies are not fulfilled then, yes, that side loses. Of course, war is horrible and people die, and that is tragic, but that doesn’t change the fact that one side in this war did fail in their objectives and lost. Thus by default, the other side “wins.”

Posted by: James M. | Apr 8 2026 2:22 utc | 706

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Apr 8 2026 2:06 utc | 686
Imagine the possibility that these price reductions actually reflect the reality that the likelihood of “boots on the ground” have greatly diminished – I think that is the case – cause it is like an ejaculation of 20th century bully ideas – ejaculated into space pointless.  So it could be that oil passage will return to “business as usual” – but there will be an ongoing tariff payment of sorts or a fee to be paid if you desire passage through the Straight of Hormuz – simple as that.
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So – business works best in the lack of uncertainty and if this is setup, then that will be that.  Iran will get payment for passage – others will seek cheaper ways of transportation and then let the best infrastructure reap the profit.  But there is no room for bullies and threats in this concept of business – where neighbors supply goods to one another.  No bullies desired or needed – in fact let the bullies reap what they sow individually.  Let them get justice.
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And then – lets get on with business as usual and transfer of goods from Point A to Point B.  I put forth tis better to keep business local, but seriously – there is no quarter for bullies in this scenario – they are proven harm causers and frankly they need to be eliminated.

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Apr 8 2026 2:23 utc | 707

Safe passage through Hormuz but the ship needs to pay 2 million pedodollars… “May have some delays for some countries because of traffic jam”… Like 2 years delay if the ship is from a hostile country.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 8 2026 2:23 utc | 708

The Strait is now open, but Iran and Oman are collecting tolls for passage, including, I presume, any American naval vessels who traverse it. Therefore, it is no longer a free passage waterway.  So yes, Iran won this war, if the ceasefire holds. They gained something and did not lose the regime, their military capabilities, or their nuclear program – the reasons stated for the US/Israel aggression.
 
Posted by: James M. | Apr 8 2026 2:15 utc | 700
 
Iran still has to repair and rebuild.  Winning the peace is still a work in progress in my opinion.  However, this is a HUGE bonus for Oman and for Iran.  Also gives a message to the world.  Iran does not forget who helped them out.

Posted by: Woke American | Apr 8 2026 2:23 utc | 709

Beyond the ceasefire headlines.
 
 
How much of southern Lebanon does Greater Israel get o keep??
 
Q: Does the invasion and occupation of territory to the Litani  River continue ??
 
A: The Greater Israel Project continues.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 8 2026 2:24 utc | 710

Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 8 2026 1:52 utc | 670

Well go fuck yourself you piece of shit.
So much for b’s meta code of conduct. Konami is a dogturd. Bank that MFs.

This is our resident philosopher at its best. I’ll file that under nothing happens,if you don’t mind.
 
It’s a non-trivial achievement to be an even worse poster than the “Nuclear War Now!” guys (stick with the metal label instead), the “Putin is a Jew” afficionado and “bomb, bomb, bomb America!!1!” connoisseurs but, having some crooked MPhil, our gay friend of good old Achilles manages effortlessly. Applause! Encore!!
 
But seriously: waxing pseudo-intellectually without substance and getting off of mass casualties: you truly are a sick man!

Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 2:26 utc | 711

I’m kind of wondering… is it possible that Iran actually captured or had quite a few hostages?
 I understand there were over 100 soldiers on the ground,  not sure how many in that firefight.
 
That the documents and soldiers told a different story?  A story DJT did not want to get out & that was why he got so ballistic?
 
Just musing,  think it was more than just a TACO thing.  Vance & Rubio were extremely tense in their appearances,  I just chalked that up at the time to embarrassment of Trumps crazy. As well as the “grill” Hegseth found himself in.
In one of the podcast,  again,  think Jon Helmer stated the the orders for this mission predated February 28… meaning this plan/order was in effect during the negotiations,  meaning blatant perfidy on paper.  Of course, could have just been normal military “options”,  but didn’t sound that way.
 
This cave just doesn’t seem like a normal TACO.
Something scared all these guys.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2026 2:29 utc | 712

The GCC are the Arab version of the Baltic poodles. Maybe Russia will change its own retaliation regime. 
 
They, the Desert Arabs were all for destroying Iran.  Boy did they fucked up.
 

  • Here’s Iran’s objective,  remove US military presence from the region. Completed

 

  • Drive the US out of Iraq.
  • Completed 

 
 

  • Effective military control of the Strait. 
  • Completed 

 

  • Teach the Desert Arabs to fear God.
  • Boy, did they ever.

 
What did the US accomplish?
 

  • Sweet FO

 
Does matter what the paper market says.
 
Physical barrels of oil is selling over $150 and will for the rest of the year. 
 
How long before regime change happens in the US, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and UAE?
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Suresh | Apr 8 2026 2:30 utc | 713

Why China will not support Iran openly… yet.
 
 
Posted by: ld | Apr 8 2026 2:19 utc | 703
 
The inevitable day will come when the USA attacks China, resulting in millions of dead Chinese.
 
We’ll all sit back and shake our heads then, wondering how the Chinese could have been so naive ….

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2026 2:30 utc | 714

Iran / They have a lot of rebuilding to do.
Posted by: Woke American | Apr 8 2026 2:18 utc | 702

 
When you have a Chinese friend, rebuilding is quick. They can get you a hospital or a building up in just a few months. Westerners have no idea. It takes you years just to do the paperwork.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 8 2026 2:31 utc | 715

Putin’s judaeophilic pussilanimity is not Iran’s fault. 
 
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 8 2026 1:42 utc | 654
 
Literally how was Putin responsible for the Iranians chickening out and taking a bad deal – after saying consistently they won’t agree to a ceasefire and was not even negotiating in first place? It’s stunts like this that keeps tanking their own credibility. IAEA situation all over again.
 
At this point, Trump has more credibility than the Iranians. The Iranians, it turns out, were eager to make a deal like Trump says, and the Iranian statements like they were not negotiating, no ceasefire, were all lies – since they actually agreed to it without their list of demands been met.
 

Posted by: MLP | Apr 8 2026 2:31 utc | 716

Below is the full statement by Iran’s Supreme National Security CouncilIt reads like a victory celebration. I see nothing in it caving to Trump’s TACO Tuesday statements. They wont even start talking to the US until All you can eat TACO Friday. https://www.tasnimnews.ir/en/news/2026/04/08/3560026/snsc-issues-statement-about-iran-s-victory-over-enemies  
Posted by: golddigger | Apr 8 2026 2:14 utc | 694

Key points:

Iran achieved a great victory and forced the criminal America to accept its 10-point plan, in which the United States is committed in principle to guaranteeing non-aggression, continuing Iranian control over the Strait of Hormuz, accepting (unanium) enrichment, lifting all primary and secondary sanctions, terminating all resolutions of the UN Security Council and the IAEA Board of Governors, paying compensation to Iran, withdrawing American combat forces from the region and stopping the war on all fronts, including against the heroic Lebanese Islamic resistance.

I find this hard to believe, however Trump did say the 10 point plan was a starting point, and didn’t outright reject it.  We’ll see if Israel complies with stopping the Lebanon genocide for Greater Israel.

Posted by: JackG | Apr 8 2026 2:32 utc | 717

https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/ret-major-general-says-hes-been-told-the-military-is-already-saying-no-to-pentagon-higher-ups/
 
^ This article says some U$ military were refusing / rejecting some Iranian targets they considered civilian.
 
Could (may) have been another data point in TrumpTeamTrix decision to cease fire.
 
Indications that many targets that were recommended by the Secretary of Defense were rejected by CENTCOM, that they were civilian targets.  ……
 
…… The CENTCOM commander is walking a very thin line where he is trying to do the best he can to implement military objectives as he understands them, without getting fired is the best way to put it.
 
In the same way that the Secretary of Defense has already fired several other senior Army officers during times of war, which is unprecedented, by the way, for no apparent reason.
 
Manner said that he had been told Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth had requested, rather than ordered, strikes on targets that were refused by military officials.
 
He then claimed there was a “quiet resistance” within CENTCOM that was attempting to redirect orders to go after civilian targets toward attacks on Iran’s military.
 
 
“The idea of attacking bridges that are clearly, overwhelmingly for civilian use would be a war crime, and that the planners in CENTCOM would not permit that,” he said, adding:

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 8 2026 2:33 utc | 718

RE: Posted by: JackG | Apr 8 2026 2:15 utc | 698
 
The bright spot.
Ansar Allah signed and agreed to nothing.
Neither did Iraq K-Hezbollah.
 

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2026 2:35 utc | 719

ld@703:
 
A most important interview on Chinese foreign policy. With links to this Chinese academic’s impressive paper discussing the limitations of the Iran-China partnership. 
 
 

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 8 2026 2:37 utc | 720

Drive the US out of Iraq. / Completed

Posted by: Suresh | Apr 8 2026 2:30 utc | 713

 
Are you sure about that? Completely out? No control over Iraq oil? All troops out? What about their huge embassy coumpound?
Iraq is a key.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 8 2026 2:37 utc | 721

https://t.me/SputnikInt/102523#

Witkoff, Kushner, Vance expected at Iran talks — reportsThe US is preparing for possible in-person negotiations with Iran, with several of US President Donald Trump’s closest representatives set to participate, according to American media.Officials say Trump’s special envoy Steve Witkoff, his son-in-law Jared Kushner, and Vice President JD Vance are expected to take part in talks in Islamabad.

I’m not happy to see Kushner and (especially) Witkoff there but Vance would be the new face. This is not about trust — there won’t be any on the Iranian side but Kushner and Witkoff are spent. The latter gleefully commented on the attacks that started the current war during on-going negotiations.

Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 2:37 utc | 722

We’ll see if Vance shows up in Pakistan on Friday.  That would be a positive sign.  There’s a lot of pressure on Trump to end this soon due to the November elections, and sending Vance would signal seriousness to the Iranians.  Don’t know if it is enough to counter the Epstein blackmail file on him.

Posted by: JackG | Apr 8 2026 2:37 utc | 723

Posted by: JackG | Apr 8 2026 2:32 utc | 717
Israel the known rogue state it is has lost all credibility – has proven itself to be a maniacally harmful entity – and truly needs to be pushed back to the 1948 borders if not removed from the international scene.  I mean genocide is their “game” – so turnabout tis fair play.  But they don’t deserve to be “genocided” – nobody does.  They do deserve a smack in the face, Netanyahoo if he is alive deserves to be hauled in front of a court of justice and then let the Jews there in Israel realize their sense of “superiority” is most misbegotten.  How dare they cause all the harm they have caused and how dare they take control fiscally of gubment in the us of a  – how dare the congress critters fall into line with them and the media as well.  Oh what a clusterfuck it all is….and really the zigaboos have bitten off more then they can chew and now it is time for Justified Retribution upon them – individually and as a country being 4/5ths of the population sat there and approved of the genocide in Gaza.  Oh how dare they – they will reap what they have sown.

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Apr 8 2026 2:40 utc | 724

So I think its safe to say, there’s NO EXCUSE whatsoever for BIBI not to be at the dinner party at White House now???
 
Hopefully for a weekend get together shaking hands with Trumpy tard.
 
Best wishes for Israel Katz

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 8 2026 2:40 utc | 725

What did the US Israel accomplish?
 
Chomped off a good chunk of Lebanon.
Weakened, if not long term destroyed,  Arab rivals.
 
Killed ??? People. Civilians, including academics medical, first responders ………
Destroyed significant military and civilian infrastructure across Iran… which will disappear from attention and concern immediately.
Proved it can act without accountability or consequence. 
 

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 8 2026 2:40 utc | 726

This cave just doesn’t seem like a normal TACO.
Something scared all these guys.
 
Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2026 2:29 utc | 712
 
 
It’s possible, but I think the yanks would rather have bunker busted the hostages than cave on their behalf. Or got the israelis to do it for them.
 
My guess:
 
The US and Israel are getting critically low on air defense ammunition. They were about to run out, leaving them sitting ducks in West Asia.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2026 2:40 utc | 727

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2026 2:35 utc | 719
I don’t care which side of the war you are on, you gotta show props for the bulldogs in Yemen.  They were the biggest opposition to the Gazacaust, and they aren’t even Sunni.  Put Turkey and Egypt to shame.

Posted by: JackG | Apr 8 2026 2:40 utc | 728

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/30581#

Iran’s Supreme National Security Council:‘The negotiations during these two weeks do not mean the end of the war, unless our conditions are agreed to, and our finger remains on the trigger.’

The first goal in such a hostile setup would be to establish minimal trust. This is not impossible, it has worked in the Cold War but it’ll require many small, verifiable steps. We’ll see how it goes. Whatever Islamabad and Beijing arranged behind the scene, let’s hope it’ll work out.

Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 2:42 utc | 729

When you have a Chinese friend, rebuilding is quick. They can get you a hospital or a building up in just a few months. Westerners have no idea. It takes you years just to do the paperwork.
 
Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 8 2026 2:31 utc | 715
 
This is the result I expect once a “ceasefire” is replace by a permanent peace.  However, there are so many fucking twists and turns and completely out of the blue big dramatic events that we’ll just have to see how things play out.
 
The US is selling itself as the nation that is good at destroying things.  China is selling itself as the nation that is good at building things.  I hope to hell that China wins.  And that the US does not create too much hatred towards itself from the rest of the world before we change our ways. 

Posted by: Woke American | Apr 8 2026 2:44 utc | 730

Reading a Jewish blog.
They are not happy with ceasefire.
Still getting bombed.
 
https://x.com/VividProwess/status/2041676439406186677
 
We have been sitting in bomb shelters for 40 days under heavy ballistic missile attacks just to get what? A meaningless ceasefire? Why are there negotiations with a terror regime that vows it will do whatever it takes to see America and Israel destroyed? We must finish the job.

Posted by: Whipping Post | Apr 8 2026 2:46 utc | 731

I agree that today’s USA has uncanny similarities with the late Soviet Union,

Posted by: Konami | Apr 7 2026 23:10 utc | 486

As i read your post, then instant recall the news.

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1870826/world

Putin says US threats smack of Soviet Union’s fatal mistakes June 05, 2021 03:17

“You know what the problem is? I will tell you as a former citizen of the former Soviet Union. What is the problem of empires — they think that they are so powerful that they can afford small errors and mistakes,” he said. “But the number of problems is growing. There comes a time when they can no longer be dealt with. And the United States, with a confident gait, a firm step, is going straight along the path of the Soviet Union.”

Posted by: Nokaz | Apr 8 2026 2:47 utc | 732

What can the US and the Colony produce in 2 weeks?
 
Iranians are producing 100s of drones and missiles per week. 
 
Isntreal cabinet is out of the country,  the military is in revolt.
 
A whole armoured Brigade has been decimated in South Lebanon (>140 tanks)
 
Cope more.

Posted by: Suresh | Apr 8 2026 2:47 utc | 733

US needs two weeks to marshal forces for a ground invasion. The war is no more over in Iran than it is when Ukraine agrees a ceasefire. However easier logistically for Iran to restock from Russia and China than for the US to manage multiple remote sites like Akrotiri, Fairford and Diego Garcia. I’m just surprised there was some form of negotiation that didn’t involve assassinating an Iranian negotiator. Perhaps there was no negotiation, just US announcing vague compliance with Iran’s conditions if Hormuz was reopened before US financial markets collapsed. Iranian leadership will never trust US assurances any more than Putin would.

Posted by: jorge | Apr 8 2026 2:47 utc | 734

James M 689  I’m still hoping my son won’t be involved, he isn’t in the 101st anymore.  The whole reason for all the US wars in the middle east you call 0-3 was for resources.  Iraq’s oil revenue is deposited into a bank in NYC.  Afghanistan’s opium was funneled to US pharma companies until the population couldn’t pop anymore pills, and almost all oil in the mideast is traded in dollars.  I wouldn’t count out the ground attack to seize oil, yet, but I hope it doesn’t happen.  Sure, the US is a third-rate power, but it hasn’t been killed yet.  I’d prefer that it didn’t steal and kill at will, and if Iran thinks getting the navy to stay out of missile range and having a stronger regime is a victory, congratulations to them.

Posted by: Chad McDougal | Apr 8 2026 2:47 utc | 735

Read in Israel Times that Israel is upset, cuz missiles still flying and “Washington gave no date when ceasefire is to take effect” (start)…
 
lol

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2026 2:48 utc | 736

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2026 2:30 utc | 714

The inevitable day will come when the USA attacks China, resulting in millions of dead Chinese.

With what? EUrope blew their load in Ukraine. The USA could perhaps throw Japan, the Philippines, Australia and (currently less likely) South Korea into the fire. I can see how Pentagon may have drawn up a magnificient plan à la Venezuela now, Iran tomorrow, China next year. But now: attacking China with what? And with the economic gradient being what it is, each year without an attack makes it harder.
 
I think that indirect attacks on China are much more promising: make trade less lucrative, meddle with transportation routes, bribe or force countries out of China’s orbits… all the stuff that Washington is doing for years now. An actual war would (or if you insist: will) have to be fought by proxy. We’ll see if they can build up the Pacific equivalent of Ukraine. I doubt it.

Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 2:49 utc | 737

609 Tom Pftozer– “. Neighbor is Democrat. Asked him what his perspective on world events was, expressed horror at Trump, but full support of war with Iran. MSM all the way, full download.”
Or Dem spokespeople today on msm (BBC News) use this sneakier method to support US’s continuing war on Iran; he says ‘how can war end if Iran won’t agree to eradication of nukes and missles?’ —  as if such US demands were ever reasonable and are after the fact anyway, since ‘point of contention’ now for Trump is the closure of strait of Hormuz. Getting rid of Iran’s nukes is probably now still the holy grail of Trumptards, but Dems will happily revive that illegal demand (long ago degraded by IAEA’s politization of intl nuke scrutiny). 
(I know why watch — to see which way the worm is currently  squirming?) worm, 

Posted by: Lavieja | Apr 8 2026 2:51 utc | 738

In other news: where’s Bibi??
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2026 1:43 utc | 660
 
At the door of hell, in line with other Zinonazis waiting to be turned into original or hot ‘n’ crispy.

Posted by: Menz | Apr 8 2026 2:52 utc | 739

RE:   TASS
https://tass.com/world/2113391

US-ISRAELI STRIKES ON IRAN
7 APR, 21:28

“Israel to continue strikes on Iran, operations against Hezbollah — The Times of Israel”
“According to the report, the Israel Defense Forces issued at least two statements about missile launches from Iran after the supposed ceasefire start“
 

“Additionally, there are no signs that Israel is stopping its operations against Lebanon’s Hezbollah movement, although Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif announced that the ceasefire is “effective immediately,” including “Lebanon and elsewhere.”

 

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2026 2:52 utc | 740

RE: Posted by: JackG | Apr 8 2026 2:40 utc | 728
 
Always props…Ansar Allah,  the best of the best.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2026 2:55 utc | 741

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 8 2026 2:09 utc | 690
 “Here in England we don’t have any leader,  or any Parliament,  or any administration, just cardboard printed copies.”
 
Here in Germany unfortunately nothing is better. We even don’t have mint sauce. So whatever we are eating, it does not have a true taste. But possibly our table manners might be slightly better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxRnenQYG7I. Mr C’s resemblance to Mr Trump – isn’t it striking?
 “Trump has real power and uses it.”
 
Really? Isn’t it more the power of those capital and “deep state” factions leading his hands? I doubt the warlord and warcriminal Donald T will stay in power much longer – with or without dementia. The size of the loss in the war against Iran is just too big. How much power Donald T has left, we will see in the weeks and months to come. Not much is my guess. 
 

Posted by: Vrbamrda | Apr 8 2026 2:56 utc | 743

The US/Israel was desperate for a ceasefire, it’s probable that Trump/USA in principle agreed to the 10 point plan in principle or as the basis for negotiations, Trump basically pulled the same move on Putin with the “Anchorage” understandings which basically “gave” Russia much of what it was asking for, in reality nothing was given and it just bought Ukraine/USA more time, hell Putin to this day still believes in the “Anchorage” understandings.
My guess is the 2 week ceasefire will be observed by both sides and the USA/Israel will use it to gather more intelligence now that the first punches have been thrown and the USA/Israel has observed what works and what doesn’t. The Iranians have gone to ground and the target banks were running dry, yes the infrastructure could be targeted but that brought it’s own bag of complications. This is just an intermission allowing the US/Israel to catch it’s breath and develop and improve their strategy on targeting Iran. It may allow the pre-positioning of US military/naval assets near the straight for the next round. 
The ceasefire in theory gives Iran a breather but not much else, that 10 point plan will never be honored in any meaningful way. Yes Iran can close it but as we have seen the true effects are felt around 1-2 months later, the US/Israel can attack and now they know the real timeline. Iran cannot rebuild any infrastructure or do anything meaningful in 2 weeks, any movement to rebuild infrastructure/repositioning is what Israel is hoping for so they can watch and track via ISR and add to the target banks. 
Iran to get the world economy/build up the same pressure would have to absorb another 30+ days of body blows, this is not a sustainable strategy for Iran, they didn’t inflict enough pain this time around to deter another attack, they were on the verge of inflicting some type of permanent pain hence why the token acceptance by the USA of the 10 point plan but they blinked, the negotiation had to happen after real long lasting permanent damage was inflicted. 
 
 

Posted by: silverfox | Apr 8 2026 2:59 utc | 744

waiting to be turned into original or hot ‘n’ crispy.
 
Posted by: Menz | Apr 8 2026 2:52 utc | 739
 
 
Stop, you’re making me hungry.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2026 2:59 utc | 745

https://x.com/NoaMagid/status/2041687051691561321
 
https://x.com/MOSSADil/status/2041687664273871009
 
Iran continues attacks on Israel and Gulf states—including Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, and Bahrain—while neither the US nor Iran has clarified when the ceasefire takes effect, fueling ongoing instability. Does this not highlight the erratic nature and instability in leadership in Iran’s regime? Let us know your thoughts in the comments. Stay connected, follow
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Poor Mossad, they are all confused

Posted by: Whipping Post | Apr 8 2026 3:01 utc | 746

Posted by: Whipping Post | Apr 8 2026 2:55 utc | 742
 
First tweet re Bibi and Lebanon. Lol bullshit. The Zionists are literally notorious for violating their OWN ceasefire agreements. They’ll burn Trump’s by tomorrow.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2026 3:04 utc | 747

Why China will not support Iran openly… yet.
 
Posted by: ld | Apr 8 2026 2:19 utc | 703
 
We’ll all sit back and shake our heads then, wondering how the Chinese could have been so naive ….
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2026 2:30 utc | 714
 
If I was China the primary concern is the danger of Iran taking all that aid and flipping.
 
We’ve all seen what happened in Armenia, Syria and Venezuela. It’d just be giving aid to their enemies and allowing them to reverse engineer their best weapons.
 
The entire BRICS game plan seems to be resting on China’s shoulder and them been able to outgrow the US. However if the US is able to achieve AI breakout or US vassals keep falling on their swords to allow the US to outgrow China in absolute terms (not in relative terms, this is important), that plan is cooked.
 

Posted by: MLP | Apr 8 2026 3:05 utc | 748

https://x.com/MOSSADil/status/2041680108553969928
US halts all offensive military operations against Iran, per US official. Defensive actions remain in place as ceasefire takes hold. Officials expect delays before Iran’s IRGC fully receives and implements the order. Stay connected, follow
@MOSSADil
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Posted by: Whipping Post | Apr 8 2026 3:05 utc | 749

George the Zeroth 679  Thanks, my tone probably comes off a little different with typed words than in spoken language.  I’m a big fan of underdogs in all competitions but I also use a lot of sarcasm.  I’m all for Iran having all the nukes it wants, keeping all its own oil, and calling all its own shots.  But, I do thinks some of its fans underestimate the power and ability of its geopolitical rivals and overestimate its ability to project power of its own.  I’m usually drunk when I make comments here so that probably makes my natural sarcasm even worse if not offensive, lol.  The idea of a civil war in the US and a great splitting up of our union is actually something we discuss a good bit, and is like a wet dream, lol.  I’d like it if all nations stayed self-sufficient, only imported what they didn’t have or couldn’t produce, and traded fairly living in peace, but something odd happens when people allow “government”  to make decisions on their behalf.
@Giyane #668  That is some funny stuff.  I’m descended from Irish, not Jewish, but my mom did make me go to a church when I was a kid that met on saturday instead of sunday, lol.

Posted by: Chad McDougal | Apr 8 2026 3:07 utc | 751

Posted by: Nokaz | Apr 8 2026 2:47 utc | 732
 
Thank you for sharing the 2021 Putin interview. He sounds too mellow for my taste, even if I know why he’s doing it. The part about the pains of an empire is spot on. The megalomania is captured perfectly by some advisor of George W. Bush, quoted from Karl Rove:

We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors.

Which *is* true. But only until it isn’t anymore. The USA is no longer creating its own reality.

Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 3:07 utc | 752

I’m kind of wondering… is it possible that Iran actually captured or had quite a few hostages?
…A story DJT did not want to get out & that was why he got so ballistic?
 
@ Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2026 2:29 utc | 712
 
 
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That question has been haunting me too.
 
I closely followed coverage from multiple sources and it’s seems unlikely there are no POWs, casualties or KIAs.
 
Further, where is the rescued WSO colonel?  Why no photos? Why no name?
 
The operation seems to have gone so badly, much much worse than Carter’s 1980 failure, that Drumpff would have to cover it up, fictional for PR sake and also, out of necessity, acting in concert with reality, negotiating with the holders of the POWs.
 
The Lego cartoon made of this clusterfuck battle, “Black Friday,” clearly shows soldiers left behind waving at the departing evacuation plane. Easy to find on internet.
 
Cartoons are not reliable source material of course, but sometimes they are more truthful than omnipresent digital-generated fictional reality where nothing ever happens.
 

Posted by: suzan | Apr 8 2026 3:08 utc | 753

  The whole reason for all the US wars in the middle east you call 0-3 was for resources.  Iraq’s oil revenue is deposited into a bank in NYC.  Afghanistan’s opium was funneled to US pharma companies until the population couldn’t pop anymore pills, and almost all oil in the mideast is traded in dollars.  
Posted by: Chad McDougal | Apr 8 2026 2:47 utc | 735
 
Keep telling yourself lies if that makes you feel better. Of course, you’d have to offset acquiring those “resources” against the 5 trillion dollars it took to get them. Iraq’s oil revenue is very, very small in comparison. And I’m not sure you are quite accurate about Afghanistan’s opium.
 
De-dollarization has also occurred; most Mideast oil is now traded in a basket of currencies; it has been for a while now. The Strait of Hormuz is now controlled by Iran, with them only accepting payments in Yuan. No one said the US was ever going away. They are still a power, a great power even, but not a hegemon anymore. The US global footprint is shrinking.
 
As for your son, or daughter, or cousin, or wife’s sister, or second cousin three times removed who is a Special Forces operator, mechanic, Navy Seal, Pentagon administrator, or knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who heard something from a neighbor about something happening in Iran, well I wish him/her/they/them the best of luck.

Posted by: James M. | Apr 8 2026 3:08 utc | 754

The most popular answer at reddit regarding a question asking about the meaning of the phrase “nothing ever happens” is this:
 
“A radical interpretation of “nothing ever happens” could be Parmenides’ philosophy.
 
Parmenides wrote two philosophies: the way of truth (alethia) and the way of opinion (doxa).
 
In the former, there is just Being, which is indivisible, unchanging, and timeless. Nothing ever happens in the sense that there is no ‘happening,’ only Being.
 
Time, change, motion, major global events, minor global events—these are false perceptions of the latter; the way of opinion.”

Posted by: meta optics | Apr 8 2026 3:09 utc | 756

Its a brutal world out there and now would probably be a good time for salvo – what is it #99 by now – hell yeah send that salvo out – this ain’t no cease fire my ass.

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Apr 8 2026 3:09 utc | 757

It will be interesting to see the IRCG reactions at the regional level, this cease fire will also test the unity within the Iranian government as no doubt there will be leaders within the government who see this ceasefire as madness, it also puts the legitimacy of the “supreme leader” on the line and if it goes wrong and another sneak attack happens it will a black mark on the supreme leader for agreeing to this cease fire. This is the same strategy that is currently running against Putin but which has not paid off but Iran is not Russia and I suspect the strategy has a much better chance of working here. 
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This cease fire is risky for Iran from an internal perspective, it also may lower the pro-government fervor/rallies. I noticed that the government put out a statement that people should still come out and support the regime and “victory”. This is a gamble for Iran and it is almost guaranteed the USA/Israel will be back in short order once they refine their strategy and it’s not going to be a long time. 

Posted by: silverfox | Apr 8 2026 3:09 utc | 758

I stick to my view
 
Trump’s destroy a civilization was a step too far.
Putin told Trump via Vance and Orban that it is over. 200 (well guess a number)  Russian nukes complete with long range missiles capable of reaching the USA have arrived.
Trump backs off
 
Actually earlier to day there was a tangential discussion about an article saying that the world lacks life saving Air Defence capability.  I realise that fits with my theory.  Vance passes Russian advice to military to assess. They say  ” bbbbbuuuuttttt we don’t have any air defence sir. We gave it all to Ukraine and Israel”.
Vance talks to Trump and says “back off boy or Maralago will become roast pork”
The result is the joiurno half-truth

Posted by: watcher | Apr 8 2026 3:09 utc | 759

I mean of course agree to some 2-week bullshit cease fire but keep on sending the salvos – give the enemy no reprieve – especially the citizens in Tel Aviv – keep them running to the shelters – day after day.
~
War is War

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Apr 8 2026 3:14 utc | 760

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 8 2026 2:23 utc | 708
 
“Safe passage through Hormuz but the ship needs to pay 2 million pedodollars… “May have some delays for some countries because of traffic jam”… Like 2 years delay if the ship is from a hostile country.”
 
 
‘Some countries’ may baulk at paying in Chinese Yuan.
 
Another humiliation for the US that will be downplayed by the msm.

Posted by: Persona Non Grata | Apr 8 2026 3:16 utc | 761

As predicted. 
 
🇮🇱⚡️🇱🇧 Netanyahu announces the continuation of the war against Lebanon.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2026 3:16 utc | 762

https://x.com/EliAfriatISR/status/2041693761575776709
The United Arab Emirates announced a FIRE at the large Habshan gas facility following a hit by shrapnel from an Iranian attack short time ago.
 
 
https://x.com/trish_regan/status/2041697582020264388
 
If true — we have a serious problem. UNACCEPTABLE.
 
More at link
 

Posted by: Whipping Post | Apr 8 2026 3:17 utc | 763

Ah, team genocide just won’t quit! Let’s just all genocide each other! What a great solution to the Zio Imperialist integument humanity finds itself in today!
Seriously though, mark my words and watch the troll themes. They desire blind universal race or nation based hatred and bestiality. They want us to think like Israel.
This creep couldn’t care less about Iran. You’ll know them by their epithets against every working class child in America and their struggling parents.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 7 2026 20:20 utc | 308
 

You have no idea of the depths of hatred people around the world have of Americans.
Posted by: Nemesis | Apr 7 2026 23:42 utc | 547
 
Oh, really, you know that?

All the more stupid then that that is all AUH can rant about, in’t, mate?
Posted by: Jane | Apr 8 2026 0:56 utc | 624

 
Team Genocide?
 
Marg bar Âmrikâ (Death to America) is not my invention. It’s an Iranian slogan. Here’s a video of the Iranians chanting Marg bar Âmrikâ on March 1, 2026.
 
Go ahead, Ahenobarbus and Jane. Accuse the Iranians of being genocidal. Justify Trump’s military action against Iran: “These bad guys are going to do a genocide on us unless we hit them first!” Be just like America’s Founding Fathers who accused Native Americans of being genocidal—“the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions”—when it was actually the Founding Fathers who were genocidal.
 
If I was genocidal, I wouldn’t be calling for Americans to destroy America through a socialist revolution. I wouldn’t point out that power flows from human labor, that American labor aristocrats have the power to bring down America by withholding their labor. But Americans have consistently rebuffed my appeals for revolution. Americans are consciously choosing to labor for the sake of advancing fascism, not socialism. That’s on them, not on me.
 

Trump and his thuggish administration …… This rubs off on all Americans unfortunately even though many do not support such conduct.
Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Apr 8 2026 1:24 utc | 646

 
It’s not a Trump problem. It’s an American problem.
 
By the standards of the majority who have had to suffer American depravities, I will be judged as having excessive fondness for America and Americans. It’s a problem I aim to rectify that, bit by bit.
 
Kindness to fascists is fertile soil for fascism to spread. Just look at Germany and Japan, who were fascist powers that had their economies rebuilt by fascist America post-WW2. “Never again” for the Germans is twisted to mean “never again against White people”. Non-White people are fair game, hence Germany’s enthusiastic participation in America’s unending campaign of brutalization against the Global South (NATO, sanctions etc). Germany banned a planned rally against Israel’s ‘genocide’ at Buchenwald former Nazi camp (April 3). As for Japan, Japan is dropping all pretenses that its Self-Defense Forces are for self-defense instead of containing China as part of America’s first island chain strategy (March 29).
 
If Americans want to take a look at public sentiment beyond the safe confines of MoA, which is filled fascists/Americans who pander to American sentiments, then take a gander at the quotes for this X post, which shows a young American woman freaking out in her car over higher gas prices:

  • It’s a privilege to cry about gas prices instead of your family members being bombed, 96K Likes
  • Didn’t do anything to stop the Gaza Holocaust and now crying that gas is too much, 46K Likes
  • One of the things that has always been shocking to me about living in America is the fact that somehow the majority of Americans cannot connect the dots between the prohibitively expensive/perennially rising cost of living and the wars and genocides their tax dollars fund. 44K Likes
  • Your infrastructure needs to be destroyed the way your country is destroying Iran’s. These people need to be made to suffer a lot, lot more. 9.2K Likes
  • americans deserve more hardship. the privilege to cry about gas prices but not civilians who have been bombed?? 5.1K Likes
  • 1,000,000 Lebanese civilians expelled from their homes, thousands of innocent people dead, Shi’ites being hunted down, war of extermination against Palestine, Iran and Lebanon but she’s the victim because she has to pay $5 a gallon in the imperial core. GROW THE FUCK UP. 1.8K Likes

 
Remember, X is an American platform. So, this is the extent of radicalness that these people dare to express on an American platform.
 
To help Americans gauge how mild and tepid my position is, let me use an analogy involving the Iranians. I am in no way comparing my achievements to the Iranians. I am only using the example to demonstrate how un-extreme my position is.
 
This might surprise some barflies on MoA, but I am the equivalent of Ali Khamenei in terms of radicalness (I am definitely his extreme inferior when it comes to achievements). Like some romantic fool, I still talk about a socialist revolution being possible in America. In many places in the world, this opinion would get me shot in the head because it’s proof that I’m a lackey of America.
 
As for the rest of the world? Their desired fate for America are far more “extreme” than mine. I put quotes around “extreme” because the word tends to have a negative connotation. The rest of the world are “extreme” only because they have a more rational and less sentimental attitude towards Americans owing to their direct and generations-long experience of dealing with Americans.
 
Remember how Iranian attitudes hardened after America murdered all those with dovish negotiators and compromisers like Ali Khamenei? You know how anti-mullah protestors turned into supporters overnight?
 
Yeah.
 
Death to America
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 8 2026 3:18 utc | 764

New LEGO video dropped already. 
 
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/181265

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2026 3:18 utc | 765

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/30600#

Sources tell MES that one of the reasons Iran accepted the 2-week ceasefire is to complete the solemn burial ceremony of Ayatollah Khamenei across the Islamic Republic

Didn’t guess that one. We’ll see if they get their adequate burial. Some people at Mossad are itching to desecrate the funeral, I’m sure — it’s just what they do.
 
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https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/30616#

We won’t include Lebanon in the two weeks ceasefire’ – Benjamin Netanyahu

Unsurprisingly, trying to get in some extra war crimes on the side. The military news from Lebanon weren’t great for Israel… Likud/Netanyahu may value their own guys more than subhuman Arabs, Lebanese etc. but they have no qualms sending IDF to the death, if it only yields enough destruction on the other side. Would be interesting to hear/read about daily lives of normal Israelis but I don’t know where.

Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 3:18 utc | 766

Keep telling yourself lies if that makes you feel better. Of course, you’d have to offset acquiring those “resources” against the 5 trillion dollars it took to get them.
Posted by: James M. | Apr 8 2026 3:08 utc | 754
 
It always was about total control of the ME and oil.  
 
The US raised the stakes on the cards it was holding and lost to Iran. Let see what who holds the cards in the next deal.

Posted by: Menz | Apr 8 2026 3:19 utc | 767

One piece of news may have also influenced Trump that I am not sure that people have considered.  Today, Clay Fuller, a Republican candidate for the US House of Representatives from Georgia’s 14th district won the seat that was held by Marjorie Taylor Greene before she resigned.  He won by about 7 points – about 53% to 46%.  But the 14th district is a +19 Republican district, the most heavily Republican district in Georgia.  Trump won it in 2024 with 68% of the vote.
 
This is not good news for Republicans in the midterm elections.  May be a lot of factors, but I can’t help thinking that part of this much more narrow win is a result of Americans’ disgust with this war and Marjorie Taylor Greene’s vocal opposition to it.
 
And if I were Pete Hegseth, I would be wondering about job security.

Posted by: Belle | Apr 8 2026 3:19 utc | 768

No doubt the full suite of US/Israeli/Western ISR as well as spy networks are all currently trained on Iran in an effort to identify regional IRGC commanders as well as to how ceasefire orders from the “supreme leader” make their way down the chain of command. It will be an effort to re-identify critical decision making nodes as well as identifying sites to add to the target bank. It’s clear the target banks have been exhausted and the current bombing is not making true military headway in toppling the Iranian government.
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If Iran tries to “rebuild” their damaged missile bases/sites or any movements in the deserts/missile cities will now be watched with great interest and compared against the intel gained over the previous 30 days of attack, more data for the target bank.
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In essence the US/Israel just asked for a timeout in the middle of the game and Iran gave it to them. Yes Iran retains control of Hormuz but Hormuz is not what Israel or the USA are after, they want the decimation and collapse of the modern Iranian state/country, when that goal is achieved Hormuz takes care of itself and will open automatically. The time will be used to add to the target banks as well as position further assets for the next round, it also gives Israel a breather with Hezbollah and allows them to refine their strategy as that front was not sustainable at all for Israel as real damage was being done to their ground forces morale.
 
 

Posted by: silverfox | Apr 8 2026 3:23 utc | 769

🇮🇱 Israel is severely weak in terms of interceptor systems; a David’s Sling missile from the 2026 reserves, which was produced only a few months ago, has been used.This means that Israel is using the last few dozen defensive missiles in its inventory.
 
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench1/48121
 
>>I hope Iran continues to pound “Israel” and correct me if I’m wrong but “Israel” was not part of the agreement? 
 
Iranians: DO NOT STOP. TAKE “ISRAEL” TO POUND TOWN!!

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2026 3:23 utc | 770

RE: Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 3:18 utc | 766
 
It’s an easy fix,  Iran could simply say the ceasefire doesn’t include Israel.  Only US assets & bases.
 

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2026 3:24 utc | 771

The Israelis are pissed, saying Trump threw them under the bus.
Mossad even seems confused.
US has stopped bombing now, Iran has several days to implement ceasefire.
Supposedly Trump caved because of Intelligence Agencies reports of serious threats to US Homeland.
*******
All above are from a jewish blog.
Suprising outcome.

Posted by: Whipping Post | Apr 8 2026 3:25 utc | 772

Posted by: Belle | Apr 8 2026 3:19 utc | 768
Good info there – Ron Unz who was so wrong about the “covid fiasco” had this to say about Hegseth and I quote:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2026/04/ron-unz/is-donald-trump-facing-a-military-mutiny-over-his-losing-war-with-iran/

Worse still, while drunk at a Republican conference he had been very plausibly accused of raping one of the women there, who had both told her colleagues about the brutal attack and also reported it to the police at the time, with Hegseth desperately begging her not to press charges and later paying $50,000 for her silence. This nearly led to the defeat of his nomination in the Republican-controlled Senate, but massive pressure from Trump had allowed him to squeak through on a tie-vote broken by Vice President JD Vance, only the second time this had happened in American history.
Once in office, Hegseth violated all security protocols by sharing details about missile strikes with his friends and relatives, an incident that was widely but mistakenly expected to result in his immediate termination.
I’m not sure of the last time any major power has put its military under the control of a totally unqualified, incompetent, and heavily tattooed drunken rapist, and I suspect that even the overwhelming majority of Third World countries would balk at such a doubtful personnel decision.

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Apr 8 2026 3:25 utc | 773

The first goal in such a hostile setup would be to establish minimal trust. This is not impossible, it has worked in the Cold War (…)
Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 2:42 utc | 729

 
The adult US leaders of that time have nothing in common with the US leaders of today. They had moral, wisdom, a functioning brain from good education and healthy food. They were not snorting cocaine. Today?

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 8 2026 3:25 utc | 774

@James M  #754   I could be wrong about that stuff, but the opioid epidemic started just a few years after 9/11 and ended 1 year before the Afghanistan withdrawal and the trillions spent for all the US warmongering since WWII was largely paid for by the rest of the world.  I am glad de-dollarization is happening, and I’m glad you like it.  I’m also thankful that you wish my son well and his friends.

Posted by: Chad McDougal | Apr 8 2026 3:27 utc | 775

Pakistan’s prime minister’s post on X: “With the greatest humility, I am pleased to announce that the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America, along with their allies, have agreed to an immediate ceasefire everywhere, including Lebanon and elsewhere, effective immediately.
Al Jazeera: “Israeli PM’s office confirms ceasefire does not include Lebanon”
Al Jazeera: Israeli attack reported in south Lebanon
 

Posted by: CallSaul | Apr 8 2026 3:28 utc | 776

Posted by: Whipping Post | Apr 8 2026 3:25 utc | 772
 
Interesting. I’m seeing opposite celebratory messaging. Example:
 

🇺🇸🇮🇷🇮🇱 Military reporter of the Hebrew channel i24: The process of the starting and ending point of the war is amazing.
 
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See how beautiful it is:We started this process with “help is coming” to people of Iran, then we moved towards the goal of “overthrowing the regime”, from there to “eliminating ballistic missiles and nuclear threats” by inflicting long-term damage to military industries
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And now our goal has become “opening the strait” (which was already open).
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We will review the achievements and failures later, but the gap between the starting point and the ending point is simply amazing.

 
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench1/48133
 
 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2026 3:28 utc | 777

^^^Or is that Hebrew sarcasm?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2026 3:29 utc | 778

Nokaz | Apr 8 2026 2:47 utc | 732
 
I thought I’d dig that interview up. It was given on 4 June 2021 during the 24th St Petersburg International Economic Forum where Vladimir Putin had a meeting, via videoconference, with heads of international news agencies, something he’s done annually for many years. Those interviews are always provocative, entertaining and informative. And yes, the linked transcript’s in English.  

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 8 2026 3:29 utc | 779

Hegseth is just the chosen fall guy/bagman, that’s why he was chosen , same as Noem these are simple fall guys/girls/patsies. This means the actions Trump will take have been planned long ahead of time, same with the AG and other areas.
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You can bag on Hegseth all one wants but the guy is just a drunk patsy who is simply doing the bidding of others.

Posted by: silverfox | Apr 8 2026 3:30 utc | 780

The Trump Regime and the Zionists will each try to regroup before violating the “ceasefire” – here in the USA, the Epstein Class is already turning its sights to “leftists.”
 
https://zeteo.com/p/trump-fbi-police-nspm-7-training
 

FBI emails obtained by Zeteo show that the Trump administration is pushing state and local police to target Americans with left-wing views, emails show. As Donald Trump’s hot war in Iran enters its second month with no end in sight, a quieter, colder war is simmering on the home front.
 
Its target is not a foreign power thousands of miles away, but US citizens who disagree with the president and his hardline advisers. This domestic war’s chief weapon is a national security presidential memorandum, NSPM-7, which attempts to criminalize a laundry list of common left-wing beliefs and viewpoints.
 
Trump’s FBI is conducting trainings for state and local law enforcement officials on the president’s NSPM-7 directive, in order to help enlist them in the administration’s ongoing crackdown on the left, emails show. And it’s happening at the same time as Trump’s war in Iran is throttling energy prices and the global economy – creating even more discontent with his administration.

 

 

What this development means in practice is if you have criticized a corporation on social media, held a sign that demands ICE leave your city, shared a meme about alleged UnitedHealthcare CEO killer Luigi Mangione, or publicly condemned Trump’s Iran war at a local town hall, both the federal government and your local police could take note and forward along a list of your thoughtcrimes to the FBI for further review.
 
Unlike a standard-issue presidential directive that nudges a sector of the federal bureaucracy or realigns a federal agency towards the president’s liking, national security directives target the entire intelligence and defense apparatus, which is why they are almost always classified. NSPM-7, which was published publicly by the White House in September, makes no effort to conceal its goals.
 
The presidential directive is the most significant shift in domestic counter-terrorism efforts since the Patriot Act was introduced into law in the wake of 9/11. The program is sweeping in its scope, not only for the list of subversive activities it seeks to target, but also in the joint terrorism task forces it relies upon. [PAYWALL BEGINS]

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2026 3:32 utc | 781

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2026 3:24 utc | 771

It’s an easy fix,  Iran could simply say the ceasefire doesn’t include Israel.  Only US assets & bases.

Certainly! So many moving parts, we have to wait and see what happens. I lack the fantasy that peace could arise from the negotiations but the ceasefire itself is a very nice surprise: a totally unexpected (to me) step down on the escalation ladder.
 
If the rift between Washington and Tel Aviv is as large as some news indicate then what you say becomes more likely.
 
Asian Frog: I won’t defend the US American position here 🙂 Just saying that *in principle* trust from utter distrust is possible. All the Cold WAR POTUSes were war criminals and worse but the professional level was much higher. I think that was necessary with a peer rival in the game. Just one genertion of unipolarity (and sleeping on the Chinese giant) was enough to lose all that. Kissinger (may he rot in hell) must be lucky not to witness this disaster.

Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 3:32 utc | 782

In response to

Drive the US out of Iraq. / Completed

Posted by: Suresh | Apr 8 2026 2:30 utc | 713

 Are you sure about that? Completely out? No control over Iraq oil? All troops out? What about their huge embassy coumpound?Iraq is a key.
Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 8 2026 2:37 utc | 721

 
Thanks…..As was noted by another commenter above somewhere all Iraq oil sales are processed through a bank in New York….unless and until that changes Iraq is not sovereign.
 
The devil is in the details and if Occupied Palestine keeps killing folks in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank what will Iran’s response be?
I am not sure that this ceasefire has legs yet but expect Trump and his cronies made billions playing the market moves so far, eh?…true God Of Mammon acolytes.
 
Until and unless the God Of Mammon global private financial jackboot is neutralized/eliminated, society will continue to live our top/bottom world.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 8 2026 3:33 utc | 783

Posted by: silverfox | Apr 8 2026 3:30 utc | 780
You can say that but tis no excuse – tis indicative.

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Apr 8 2026 3:34 utc | 784

@ Woke American posts..
 
i appreciate the fact you offer some overview of the videos that you watch… thanks for all your posts.. 
 
@ Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 8 2026 1:42 utc | 654
 
now i see how inconsistent you are here… apparently it was all about iran having nukes and when i point out that it hasn’t mattered with russia having nukes, you come up with a different rationale.. that is real talent, or dishonesty on your part…  hey – but have it both ways if it suits you.. 
 
@ Patroklos | Apr 8 2026 1:52 utc | 670
 
my own view is much more in line with @ Konami | Apr 8 2026 2:26 utc | 711  fwiw, not that you care, lol..
 
@ Melaleuca | Apr 8 2026 2:33 utc | 718
 
that is very reasonable speculation that makes and made sense to me previously… too many inside the leadership in armed forces are either quitting or saying no to this bullshit..  i am quite certain of this much… 
 
@ Nokaz | Apr 8 2026 2:47 utc | 732
 
this is a viewpoint a few of us here at moa hold to..
 
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the way i see it, this is a temporary ceasefire… i can’t see rabid israel who have trump on a leash going along with any stop here.. it will be temporary….  look at all the bad faith the usa has expressed in negotiations to date… if anyone thinks that is going to change – sorry, i can’t see it myself… 

Posted by: james | Apr 8 2026 3:35 utc | 785

Posted by: Chad McDougal | Apr 8 2026 2:47 utc | 735
 
“Afghanistan’s opium was funneled to US pharma companies….” – This is incorrect.
 
Primary destinations for Afghan heroin were Europe, Russia and Iran.
 
Heroin was weaponised to destabilize Russia and Iran. A quick search will point you to a number of documentaries highlighting the heroin problem in Iran during the Afghanistan war. 

Posted by: Persona Non Grata | Apr 8 2026 3:36 utc | 786

Fact of the matter is – if the us of a is going to be an ongoing entity (doubtful) – the likes of Hegseth, Trump and others need to be removed from positions of authority – and now what are the chances of this dear readers here at the “bar”.  Not likely – so that suggest this is going to be an ongoing conflagration and cease fire my ass.
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Keep the missiles flying is my council – cause bullies only respond to force.
Justified Retribution takes no prisoners – and it is justified when you are defending your homeland – it is justified when you have been attacked without provocation – it is halfway demanded when the attacks are back-stabs occurred in the midst of negotiations – negotiations MY ASS.
Justified Retribution takes no prisoners.  Seriously – and all ships want transit in the Straight of Hormuz be advised to figure out payment cause payment is demanded.

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Apr 8 2026 3:40 utc | 787

Posted by: Persona Non Grata | Apr 8 2026 3:36 utc | 785

Heroin was weaponised to destabilize Russia and Iran. A quick search will point you to a number of documentaries highlighting the heroin problem in Iran during the Afghanistan war. 

Did that quick search — I had no clue! Thank you for mentioning this. Looks like a carbon copy of the 19th century opium war on China by the then-super power UK.
 

Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 3:41 utc | 788

Just to remind of the odious vassal Canada and its position on Iran:
 
Statement By Prime Minister Carney on the Evolving Situation in the Middle East
 
https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/statements/2026/03/03/statement-prime-minister-carney-evolving-situation-middle-east
 
Canada has long seen Iran as the principle source of instability and terror in the Middle East…Canada stands with the Iranian people in their long and courageous struggle against the regime’s oppressive rule. 
 
Which is why we support efforts to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon and to prevent its regime from further threatening international peace and security.
 
Because Canada is actively taking on the world as it is, not passively waiting for a world we wish to be, we have taken this position with regret, because the current conflict is another example of the failure of the international order…”
 
Hear the Carney? Hear the Goldman Sachs? Hear the Davos, Bilderberger or Knight of Malta? Hear the Epstein Empire? Hear the zionist and genocidaire? Hear the classwar?  The surest way to lose one is not to know you’re in one.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 8 2026 3:43 utc | 789

re: 788:
 
Should you be so moved…
 
mark.carney@parl.gc.ca

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 8 2026 3:45 utc | 790

Posted by: Chad McDougal | Apr 8 2026 3:27 utc | 775
 
I’m pretty sure you are wrong about most of that, if not all. For example, the opioid crisis started in the 1990s and wasn’t fueled by Afghani opium. Also, double-check your economics about how public debt works. 

Posted by: James M. | Apr 8 2026 3:47 utc | 791

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Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 8 2026 3:48 utc | 792

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2026 3:32 utc | 781
 
with freaks like stephen miller in positions of high power in the usa, i would expect exactly this.. no doubt they will be hiring ex idf members – the ones not already employed by ice – to do the door to door arrests…. 

Posted by: james | Apr 8 2026 3:49 utc | 793

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 8 2026 3:33 utc | 783
They ain’t gonna take this Mammon with them when they pass on – which they will inevitably – as we all will eventually.  So – tis a fools game they play – a losing game by definition.  On their death beds not a one of them will be thinking about all the mammon they acquired in their earthly lives – they are pathetic.

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Apr 8 2026 3:49 utc | 794

@ John Gilberts | Apr 8 2026 3:43 utc | 789
 
the guy is an ignoramus… 

Posted by: james | Apr 8 2026 3:52 utc | 795

Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 3:41 utc | 787
 
If you are interested in a bit of history, this is an excellent book, highly recommended –
 
The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia by Alfred W. McCoy (1972).
 
“This in-depth academic study researches the central role that opium plays in the economy, politics, and wars of the region.”

Posted by: Persona Non Grata | Apr 8 2026 3:57 utc | 796

Plot twist.  The Iranians are also front running the Market.
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2026 3:59 utc | 797

The Israelis are pissed, saying Trump threw them under the bus.
Posted by: Whipping Post | Apr 8 2026 3:25 utc | 772

 
Months ago, before the war, that was Emmanuel Todd’s very controversial theory that Trump would MAGA by getting rid of the Parasite. Well, it seems plausible today. Possible tomorrow.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 8 2026 4:00 utc | 798

Below is a Xinhuanet posting showing that there are inherent problems with the purported ceasefire
 

JERUSALEM, April 8 (Xinhua) — Israel supports the U.S.-Iran two-week ceasefire, “subject to Iran immediately opening the straits and stopping all attacks on the U.S., Israel and countries in the region,” Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Office said Wednesday.
The ceasefire does not include Lebanon, the office said in a statement.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 8 2026 4:01 utc | 799

Pakistan has a border of more than nine hundred kilometers. Should have the usa/isreal attempted the threatened total destruction of the country and people of Iran then Pakistan would surely be overwhelmed at the border with refugees.

Pakistan has intervened on the negotiating level yet the country is a nuclear power. Might they have ( behind the scenes) threatened to support Iran on a military/ballistics level ? Would be in their country’s own interest to save Iran from severe destruction. This would have isreal government running from the beaches, taking to the air, no ?

Posted by: Fíréan | Apr 8 2026 4:06 utc | 800

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