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April 7, 2026
War On Iran: – Trump Threatens Genocide – More Tit-for-tat Bombing

As the world was waiting for President Donald Trump to TACO from his threat to destroy Iran he upped his madman strategy by threatening to genocide its people:

A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have Complete and Total Regime Change, where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen, WHO KNOWS? We will find out tonight, one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the World. 47 years of extortion, corruption, and death, will finally end. God Bless the Great People of Iran!
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I find it no longer useful to attempt any interpretation of such threats. They are likely a reaction to the failed Isfahan operation.

After that above threat was posted Iran froze all diplomatic and indirect communication channels with the U.S.

Meanwhile the war continues at heightened intensity.

Yesterday Israel again attacked Iran’s largest industrial oil and gas installation in the South Pars field.

Retribution came fast. Israeli installations at Neot Hovav in the Negev desert were attacked. Saudi Arabia’s Al Jubail industrial area is on fire as are at least three major oil/gas sites in the Emirates.

This morning the U.S. (again) struck some 50 targets on Kharg Island in what I consider a preparation for an imminent invasion likely to follow this night.

Israel hit ten Iranian railway stations around Tehran to isolate the city.

The “Jewish State” also struck the Rafie Nia synagogue in Tehran. It seems to have been an intentional target.

Iran has published a quite sensible 10-point plan to end the war:

Iran’s 10-point plan includes:
1. Guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again
2. Permanent end to the war, not just a ceasefire
3. End to Israeli strikes in Lebanon
4. Lifting of all US sanctions on Iran
5. End to all regional fighting against Iranian allies
6. In return, Iran would open the Strait of Hormuz
7. Iran would impose a Hormuz fee of $2 million per ship
8. Iran would split these fees with Oman
9. Iran to provide rules for safe passage through Hormuz
10. Iran to use Hormuz fees for reconstruction instead of reparations

Iran had previously asked for full U.S. reparation payments for the damage the war has caused. To instead insist on using Hormuz passage funds is a sensible retreat from a hardline position.

With Iranian consent more ships are quietly passing through the Strait of Hormuz.

Whatever might happen Iran wont give up on not closing but controlling Hormuz for very good reasons.

The U.S. deploys additional HIMARS artillery to the Middle East.

Comments

https://youtu.be/dUUeKn0Zhm4   Danny Haiphong and Sharmine Narwani
 
Very excellent discussion.  Some of the highlights are:  Iran was number 1 in the world in science before sanctions against Iranian academics hit.  Now down to number 5.  There was a discussion on who is providing Iran with such good intelligence.  Iran?  Russia?  China?  Conclusion:  no one knows, does not really matter.  Iran gets good intelligence, and they put it to good use.  Iran right now is a Power, though not a super Power.  They don’t WANT to be a power.  But the US and Israel won’t leave them alone, so they are taking out pretty much all of their neighbors to their west.  Something about them working together to launch a huge missile attack on Iran that killed their leader.  It’s not just the US that attacked Iran, it was Israel, UAE, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, etc.  And Iran is winning, though with an unknown amount of help from Russia and China.  Which will make them the power of the region, though it may take a while to rebuild  depending upon how much damage the US does to them before the war is over.
 
Though they discussed the possibility of the US nuking a bunch of stuff, the conversation was pretty upbeat and optimistic.  We’ll know a lot more about this in a week – how many nukes did the US use? will be the big question.
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Woke American | Apr 7 2026 17:55 utc | 201

The BBC’s Ghoncheh Habibiazad drew outrage for publishing a quote demanding Iran be nuked, then quietly removed it.  She’s since been revealed as a dedicated regime change activist whose career was launched by a CIA-founded propaganda network.
 
Who is Ghoncheh Habibiazad?
 
“At the ripe old age of 27, Ghoncheh Habibiazad has already achieved more than most British journalists will in their lifetime. After just four years in the field, she has already risen to the position of ‘Senior Reporter’ at BBC Persian – a prestigious and influential role which requires a “minimum of 8 – 10 years of experience in journalism,” according to a BBC job listing.”
 
More here:
 
https://thegrayzone.com/2026/04/07/senior-bbc-iran-reporter-opposition-activist/

Posted by: Allen | Apr 7 2026 17:55 utc | 202

Posted by: Onehunglo | Apr 7 2026 17:40 utc | 189
> The Jewish Autonomous Oblast (JAO) is in far eastern Russia dedicated to Jews, they can go there.
There were 837 jews in JAO in 2020. That’s 0.6% of the region’s population. So yeah, joke’s on you.

Posted by: 俺様 | Apr 7 2026 17:56 utc | 203

Posted by: bored | Apr 7 2026 16:55 utc | 159
 
That Israeli countdown is one of the most barbarous, inhuman, abominable thing I’ve seen.  Dear God, I am so ashamed to be an American before God and before the countries of the world.

Posted by: Belle | Apr 7 2026 17:56 utc | 204

Russia won’t even nuke the US to retaliate against a limited strike on Russia itself. 

And here I thought you a mere fool. You’re a suicidal fool.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 7 2026 17:57 utc | 205

in response to – Posted by: Onehunglo | Apr 7 2026 17:40 utc | 189

Or Patagonia ?

Posted by: Fíréan | Apr 7 2026 17:57 utc | 206

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 7 2026 16:05 utc | 108

Oh the Stupids really went to human walled their power plants not realising that USRael relishes more human sacrifices to Baal. …NEW: The Iranian government is urging people NOT to approach power stations, saying they will likely die, but people continue to flow in, insisting to ‘defend their country or die with it’…

I just cannot wrap my head around this one. Are these officials secretly working for the enemy, or is this just another example of really poor management of the narrative battlefield?
 
Quick question, can anyone name one country that really really LOVES Iranian military-aged martyrs?

Posted by: robin | Apr 7 2026 17:58 utc | 207

.America needs a military coup, now
  – Dave G  17
 

No, it needs democracy.  – Norwegian  183

A democracy for the USA is unrealistic, like daydreaming.  Besides it was 2 centuries of American democracy which got us to this point.
 
To halt the current madness the USA does need a military coup.  That’s the only way right now.  If we wish to daydream of an enlightened military junta then we can hope for the swamp being drained.
 
Frankly, only an evil system can create the kinds of leaders we’ve seen in the western world this century.  I wish it was as simple as getting rid of the entire system.  However what responsibility do average citizens have for the system?  Why should we think a new system with the same citizens, would create something less evil?
 
Really Americans and the Jews have gotten away with murder for decades.  That explains their recklessness.  Europeans didn’t get away with murder in 1945.  Yet it didn’t take too many generation for them to forget that lesson.
 
To conclude this thought wandering: doesn’t seem to be any easy fix for the Euro-American civilisation.  Best to give it a Time Out…let it stew in its own Dark Age, leaving more civilized people alone.

Posted by: EoinW | Apr 7 2026 17:59 utc | 208

malenkov | Apr 7 2026 17:52 utc | 196
Yes, a coup might make it worse, but something needs to be done now and US politicians aren’t going to do it.

Posted by: Dave G | Apr 7 2026 18:00 utc | 209

Occam’s Razor says that HMS Dragon has bravely run away.
Bad news for the Izzies…

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 7 2026 18:00 utc | 210

@ robin | Apr 7 2026 17:58 utc | 207
 
Appologies to all. I just re-read the quote and saw that the officials were urging people NOT to swarm to targetted sites.
 
Radio news was stating the exact opposite this morning. Hence my mistake.

Posted by: robin | Apr 7 2026 18:01 utc | 211

Nukes are devastating weapons, but not supernaturally so. Too many here imagine them to be much more than they really are. 
Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 7 2026 17:30 utc | 180

 
IOW not many dead, mostly brown people.
 
So that’s OK, then.
 

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 7 2026 18:03 utc | 212

@ Whipping Post | Apr 7 2026 17:53 utc | 199
 
Link to something official or it’s fake news.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 7 2026 18:03 utc | 213

190 Cont’d–
 
There are some further comments Nebenzia made in closing that need to be added:
 

In the bottom line, no matter how hard the authors tried to give the text generalized formulations, its essence remained unchanged – providing carte blanche for the continuation of aggressive actions and further escalation. We understand what this would mean from a legal point of view, as well as for the situation on the ground. Especially at a time when we hear statements by the US president about his readiness to “destroy” Iran if the Strait of Hormuz is not opened….
 
We have already seen how the United States has tried to justify its strikes against Iran by invoking the right to self-defense in accordance with Article 51 of the UN Charter, giving it a preventive interpretation. With all our solidarity with the Arab countries that have been framed by Washington and have become victims of the tragedy in the region, we cannot fail to note that an attempt to impose the “rules of the game” in the Strait of Hormuz would only play into the hands of those who want to further undermine security and stability in the Middle East and beyond….
 
The adoption of such a document, which ignores the broad context of the situation, would further antagonize Iran, which is already under daily US-Israeli strikes. A huge number of civilians are dying on the territory of the country. Their number is approaching two thousand, a quarter of whom are women and children. The supreme leader and many other representatives of the country’s leadership were killed. Civilian infrastructure – schools, hospitals, universities, energy and nuclear facilities, including the Bushehr nuclear power plant, are being attacked, which threatens to have catastrophic humanitarian consequences for Iran and the entire region. It should be emphasized that the Security Council did not agree on a single line of assessment of these violations of international law. There will be no excuses on our part today, Ambassador Waltz….
 
From the very beginning of our work on the document, together with our Chinese colleagues, we have conveyed to the Bahraini authors and other members our most serious concerns about this initiative. We did not see any room for correcting the text, so we urged our Arab friends to refrain from promoting it. However, we were not listened to, and the draft was still put to a vote. Under these conditions, we had no choice but to oppose it….
 
Understanding the concerns of our Arab partners regarding freedom of navigation, we, together with China, propose that the Security Council consider an alternative draft Security Council resolution on the current situation in the Middle East, including from the point of view of maritime security. We are confident that genuine freedom of navigation in the Strait, which is so necessary for the countries of the region and the whole world, can only be achieved through the cessation of hostilities and the achievement of a negotiated solution. Our draft will be concise and in an equidistant and balanced manner, in accordance with the principles of international law and the UN Charter, in particular, on the peaceful settlement of disputes. In this regard, we immediately put it in the blue. We will inform you about the voting plans additionally. We count on the support of all members of the Security Council. [My Emphasis]

 
Will Russian and Chinses diplomacy find a way out acceptable to the Trump Tyrant? Do GCC nations understand that Trump’s threats aimed at Iran are also aimed at them?  

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 7 2026 18:04 utc | 214

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 7 2026 15:55 utc | 99
I agree in large part with what you said Ahenobarbus, and you are clearly a very intelligent individual, but I think you should apologize to Maverick for the ad hominem attack. Not warranted imo.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Apr 7 2026 18:05 utc | 215

Posted by: 俺様 | Apr 7 2026 17:56 utc | 203
 
Plenty of room for more, many, many more then.
 
Though I can understand why you might not want them as your neighbour.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 7 2026 18:07 utc | 216

If the US or the Israel send a nuke on Iran then isn’t there a risk that Dimona receives a ballistic missile?
A kiss at mach 15 on the nukes storage box and the Israel thingy is a memory.

Posted by: Stephane | Apr 7 2026 18:07 utc | 217

I suggest the new currency to replace the dollars should be bottle caps after the Armageddon.
 
Amen

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 7 2026 18:13 utc | 218

“When will Americans rise?” Please stop asking this. Not possible. Our bank accounts would be frozen–just as the Canadian Truckers’ were. US is a dictatorship.

Posted by: susan mullen | Apr 7 2026 18:15 utc | 219

So what exactly happens when someone uses the facile taco taunt in a purported critical comment of current US belligerence? Well, for one thing, the war party scores a point. And also, a kitten dies. The kittens people, please think about the kittens.

Posted by: robin | Apr 7 2026 18:16 utc | 220

On the question of ‘democracy’. The idea is wonderful, but democracy does not exist. It will always eventually fail in practice.
the US democracy is a complete facade. The idea of democracy in Great Britain, France, Germany, or any country in Europe, is a facade.
I would argue for a voted monarchy – mono as in one ruler – instead of what we have now, a ‘multiarchy’ with billionaires, financiers wrapped in a supremacist culture/ religion ruling most western nations. At least with a monarchy you have one throat to choke. With what exists now, there is a rat’s nest of rulers hidden behind curtains, and pest control is very difficult.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Apr 7 2026 18:17 utc | 221

Maverick @76
 
“I never could even find anyone willing to stand beside me.”
 
I remember going to Hiroshima Day commemoration and being the only person there. The organizers weren’t there. Found out later they had always been on the gummint payroll.

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 7 2026 18:21 utc | 222

Why we can’t have peace, by the great Dan Berrigan:
 
“But what of the price of peace? I think of the good, decent, peace-loving people I have known by the thousands, and I wonder. How many of them are so afflicted with the wasting disease of normalcy that, even as they declare for the peace, their hands reach out with an instinctive spasm in the direction of their loved ones, in the direction of their comforts, their home, their security, their income, their future, their plans – that five-year plan of studies, that ten-year plan of professional status, that twenty-year plan of family growth and unity, that fifty-year plan of decent life and honorable natural demise. “Of course, let us have the peace,” we cry, “but at the same time let us have normalcy, let us lose nothing, let our lives stand intact, let us know neither prison nor ill repute nor the disruption of ties.” And because we must encompass this and protect that, and because at all costs – at all costs – our hopes must march on schedule, and because it is unheard of that in the name of peace a sword should fall, disjoining that fine and cunning web that our lives have woven, because it is unheard of that good men should suffer injustice or families be sundered or good repute be lost – because of this we cry peace and cry peace, and there is no peace. There is no peace because there are no peacemakers. There are no makers of peace because the making of peace is at least as costly as the making of war – at least as exigent, at least as disruptive, at least as liable to bring disgrace and prison and death in its wake.”

Posted by: Caliman | Apr 7 2026 18:22 utc | 223

Why doesn’t the UN do something?  They did. 
 
On March 11, 2026, the UN Security Council adopted a resolution (Resolution 2817) that condemned Iran for “egregious attacks” on several Gulf nations and Jordan. This action followed escalating violence in the Middle East that began with U.S. and Israeli airstrikes against Iran on February 28, 2026.
 

  • Co-Sponsors: A record-breaking 136 UN member states co-sponsored the resolution, a number described by diplomats as reflecting the “collective conscience” of the world.
  • Broad Consensus: The high count of co-sponsors effectively acted as a broad endorsement from the General Assembly membership, even though the formal vote took place within the 15-member Security Council.

 
Face it.   The world is ruled by criminals and crooks everywhere.
 

Posted by: wagelaborer | Apr 7 2026 18:22 utc | 224

Croesus was a Turkish king (550 BC), who wanted to topple Cyrus the Great, then king of Iran. Before going to battle, Croesus consulted an oracle, and the oracle replied to Croesus that, “if he crossed the river, a great empire would be destroyed”. Croesus took this to mean that he would win, so he went to battle. Turned out that the great empire that was destroyed was his own.
A modern-day version would be that Trump, after consulting an AI, decides to attacking Iran,  and writes in a tweet “a whole civilization will die tonight”.

Posted by: The Far Side | Apr 7 2026 18:22 utc | 225

 Stephane | Apr 7 2026 18:07 utc | 217
 
Yes, Iran has that capability as a deterrent. There’s a great quiet at the moment regarding information about what Russia and China plan to propose at UNSC and if it will be something Iran can agree to since it’s as against a temporary ceasefire in its conflict as Russia is in its. Nebenzia did note the non-credible position of the Outlaw US Empire given its having attacked Iran twice while conducting negotiations which render it beyond untrustworthy.  

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 7 2026 18:23 utc | 226

The problem is not democracy … the problem is that “fine and cunning web” of normalcy that has been woven that holds the population to actions that they would never otherwise countenance. 

Posted by: Caliman | Apr 7 2026 18:25 utc | 227

United States Air Force (USAF) B-52s are departing RAF Fairford taking off fully loaded
 
⏳ ~7 hour combat flight time to Iran puts them in striking range by 8 pm UTC
 
A Bombing run against the Islamic Republic of Iran is coming
 
https://t.me/BellumActaNews/170516

Posted by: too scents | Apr 7 2026 18:29 utc | 228

United States Air Force (USAF) B-52s are departing RAF Fairford taking off fully loaded
 
Posted by: too scents | Apr 7 2026 18:29 utc | 228
 

 

The UK government signaled it won’t let the US use British military bases for strikes on Iranian energy or civilian infrastructure after President Donald Trump threatened an escalation of operations against Tehran.
 
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-04-07/uk-signals-it-won-t-let-us-use-bases-for-strikes-on-iran-energy

Posted by: too scents | Apr 7 2026 18:33 utc | 229

So the IDF deliberately attacks civilian railroad passenger stations murdering civilians and local railroad workers, and then expects that Tel Aviv (Lod) and Haifa will not be vigoriously attacked ?
 
This is cycle of violence that is in escalation, not decline.  The Iranians have been clear – attack our civilian industrial and government infrastructure and we will attack the supporters of Israel in the Gulf States and do with some vigor.
 
And it appears as if the Israelis are driving this train right off the rail bridge……and gloating about it, and DJT is on the same train!
 
 
 

Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 7 2026 18:34 utc | 230

Alon Mizrahi:
Day 37: Trump and Israel’s self-destructive derangement (and a farewell to YT)
 

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 7 2026 18:36 utc | 231

Tell pope Leo: the Huns are coming from West this time!
 

Posted by: Condorpuma | Apr 7 2026 18:37 utc | 232

Hell of a quote there Caliman (@223)
It explains a lot.
 

Posted by: simon crow | Apr 7 2026 18:37 utc | 233

The Far Side @ 225
 

Croesus consulted an oracle, and the oracle replied to Croesus that, “if he crossed the river, a great empire would be destroyed”….A modern-day version would be that Trump, after consulting an AI, decides to attacking Iran,  and writes in a tweet “a whole civilization will die tonight”.

 
Post of day!
 

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 7 2026 18:39 utc | 234

So the B52H ‘s are leaving England……..this signals the start of all out ME war…..will Karg Island be invaded too?
 
Insanity, pure insanity, war mongering neo con Zionist insanity……………we are staring down the gun barrel of WWIII……who knows what the RF and CCP will do.
 
Will allow Iran to be invaded and devastated?  Complete unknowns at this point in time.
 
 

Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 7 2026 18:43 utc | 235

A thid party nucular power should in the next hour make it clear….. If america nukes Iran then america gets nuked next,  and quickly. A deterant.
Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 7 2026 17:20 utc | 175
If Kim Jong Un pulled off something like this he would be a good candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize!

Posted by: Nemesis | Apr 7 2026 18:44 utc | 236

Nukes are devastating weapons, but not supernaturally so. Too many here imagine them to be much more than they really are. 
Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 7 2026 17:30 utc | 180
 
Only if you assume the other side will do nothing. One nuke will lead to more nukes. Once you let the cat out of the bag, countries will escalate using nukes instead of conventional. Instead of exchanging “submunitions” that can destroy cars like Iran’s current missiles, you’d have “submunitions” that can destroy cities. Uncontrolled nuclear exchange is one of the very few ways that humans can wipe itself out.

Posted by: Sloan | Apr 7 2026 18:44 utc | 237

@ LightYearsFromHome | Apr 7 2026 18:39 utc | 234
 
…except that neither the USA nor “Israel” can be considered civilizations…

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 7 2026 18:47 utc | 238

If Kim Jong Un pulled off something like this he would be a good candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize!
 
Posted by: Nemesis | Apr 7 2026 18:44 utc | 236

 
I still say that Trump is a strong contender for the next Nobel Peace Prize — and yes, that’s an indictment of both Trump and the Peace Prize Committee.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 7 2026 18:50 utc | 239

@ too scents | Apr 7 2026 18:33 utc | 229
 
They don’t call it Perfidious Albion for nuthin’.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 7 2026 18:51 utc | 240

Straw is a metaphor for useless, decapitated,  chaff

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 7 2026 18:52 utc | 241

Re: Nuclear Weapons
 

“Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.”
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Seattle
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 7 2026 18:52 utc | 242

Past is prologue:
 
Threads (1984) ORIGINAL TRAILER [HD 1080p]
 
…and that’s just the trailer.  NOT recommended viewing, not today.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 7 2026 18:55 utc | 243

Quote;

– GEROMAN — time will tell –  —
 

@GeromanAT

1m

 

 

“All reports about starting US regime bombers from UK or anywhere else are not true.”

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 7 2026 18:57 utc | 244

malenkov @ 238
 

…except that neither the USA nor “Israel” can be considered civilizations…

 
True, but ancient oracles had no term for “ClownWorld”.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 7 2026 18:59 utc | 245

Trump’s deadline expires 5 hours from NOW.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 7 2026 19:00 utc | 246

Shakespeare had the right attitude about prancing about on a stage, all sound and fury and signifying nothing, but he forgot to mention the Easter Bunny.

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 7 2026 19:01 utc | 247

@ LightYearsFromHome | Apr 7 2026 18:59 utc | 245
 
Touché! 😊

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 7 2026 19:01 utc | 248

@ 219
The solution to this problem is for US workers to withdraw from the system as much as they can and form autonomous communities of care that insulated from the vagaries of the capitalist mode of production. This would mean having less, ultimately, but for many people this would be a dream. Growing and sharing our own food, building our own things out of the scrapheap of industrial civilization, constructing our own monetary and planning systems, actually making things. Solar panels, 3D printers, compost systems (even small-scale), community production; I think these are the weapons we have in our arsenal against this capitalist class dictatorship. This wouldn’t work out, maybe, in NYC or LA, but it would in many smaller cities and communities that are already forgotten by the war-mongering capitalist ruling class.

Posted by: fnord | Apr 7 2026 19:02 utc | 249

Trump’s deadline expires 5 hours from NOW.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 7 2026 19:00 utc | 246

ntp is a wonderful thing.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 7 2026 19:03 utc | 250

chatNPC @212: IOW not many dead, mostly brown people. So that’s OK, then. 
Unfortunately, where the rest of the world is concerned, including Russia, that is the case. And how many dead is “not many”? That always depends upon who is doing the dying, doesn’t it? What’s the difference between half a million dead in Palestine and five million dead in Tehran? There is no difference and you know it. 
 
“But if anyone nukes one of Russia’s allies then Russia will retaliate!”
 
Really? Anyone here truly believe Russia’s “retaliation” will be nuclear? Nonsense! Russia will send Lavrov to the UN to utter some diplomatically terse language before the General Assembly and people here will suck their teeth and point out how wisely restrained and civilized Russia’s response is.
 
You know it is true. 
 
 
And anyone who thinks I welcome that outcome is a fool who has not understood anything I’ve ever posted here. 
 
Anyway, the US won’t be impacted by the use of nukes. Beyond the economic disruption, things will return to normalcy with depressing speed afterwards. 

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 7 2026 19:08 utc | 251

If Iran can even be called a Russian “ally”. For a lot of commentors here, they think they’re part of some moral crusade, and mistakenly believe that every one on their “side” is as suicidal or fanatical as themselves. Truth is that every nation looks out for its own best interests. Friendship and alliances are temporary. Russia is not going to “ally” herself to a smoking crater.

Posted by: catdog | Apr 7 2026 19:18 utc | 252

Once you let the cat out of the bag, countries will escalate using nukes instead of conventional. 
Posted by: Sloan | Apr 7 2026 18:44 utc | 237
 
No. You forgot a little detail. The other clowns with nukes don’t have enemies they can nuke. And they are completely paralyzed by Us, their only enemy. Another detail you forgot was Putin’s offer to take Iran’s uranium after the 12 day war. Putin does not have any problems with Poland or Finland’s requests to get nukes, but he wants the uranium from Iran which ain’t nukes. Had no problems selling weapons to Nato Turkey, but again with Iran has problems and won’t sell. Free trade is very selective in Brics, it has to be approved by Bibi. NK can have them only because it does not bother Israel.
Like in Yemen’s case, or Gaza, you are watching a united Unsc working for Us with unanimous votes at best, not voting at all at worst. The Bahrain failed proposal today does not matter, Russia and China are just washing their hands legally, just internal propaganda. The more Iran gets hit, the more the governments in Russia and China will be able to sell their obedience to the population as the only solution. Everyone must accept what king Trump demands, or king Putin and king Xi risk losing their chairs. Hence the low level, military designed propaganda that Putin and Xi play 5d chess and peasants are too retarded to be allowed to ask. 

Posted by: rk | Apr 7 2026 19:18 utc | 253

Kuwait is squoze ==> https://t.me/naya_foriraq/70521
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 7 2026 19:19 utc | 254

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2026 16:28 utc | 133
 
K iodine is readily available  on amazon.

Posted by: dp | Apr 7 2026 19:21 utc | 255

Trump: I killed the Iranian leadership to stop the crazy bastards from killing innocent Iranian civilians.
Trump.  My only option now is to nuke Iran and kill millions of innocent civilians. Who are animals.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 7 2026 19:21 utc | 256

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 7 2026 19:08 utc | 251
So what’s stopping Russia from justifiably taking launching a couple of non-nuclear hypersonic missiles into the heart of US infrastructure? Surely everyone knows the US has way more to lose if it went MAD and therefore wouldn’t escalate. 

Posted by: Nemesis | Apr 7 2026 19:22 utc | 257

i’ve read a lot of stupid crap this morning, such as ‘who says Trump doesn’t have the authority to nuke iran? even vance says the equivalence of this. it’s too much, way too much. 
Posted by: annie | Apr 7 2026 15:32 utc | 64

 
Pete Hegseth’s job security is grounded on the fact that POTUS needs SECDEF’s concurrence to authorise release of nukes. A sane SECDEF with a good reputation and something of a life to live for might think twice in a first-use case.  Generals can pretend to refuse, but once a properly formatted order hits the system, things can become rather automatic. Best hope for sanity rests with the officers tasked to deliver weapons on target; some might refuse, but it is unlikely all will.  All bets are off if Israel finds some way to false-flag an attack on US soil, as the ranks will all fall in line for a response.

Posted by: Cato | Apr 7 2026 19:23 utc | 258

Let the truth be told, never easy during an undeclared ‘war’!
– HMS Dragon hit by an anti ship missile and knocked out of service
– USS Gerald R. Ford hit by an anti ship missile and knocked out of service
– Numerous A10’s, KC 135’s, KC130’s, E3’s, F15’s, F16’s, F35’s destroyed on the ground and in the air
– Numerous HH60’s and HC6 helos destroyed on the ground and in the air
– US bases in Kuwait and Bahrain attacked and knocked out of service
– US bases in SA and Jordan attacked and damaged
– Oil and gas fields and refineries attacked and knocked out of service
– Hormusz channel in control of the Iranians
– Red Sea straits in control of the Houthis
– US attempt to seize Iranian enriched uranium supplies soundly defeated
– Tel Aviv (Lod) and Haifa under constant missile attack
 
Yup DJT and Bibi are desperate now………..its a very dangeous 24 hours ahead……..where is Kiefer Sotherland when we need him?

Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 7 2026 19:27 utc | 259

Nemesis @257: “So what’s stopping Russia from justifiably taking launching a couple of non-nuclear hypersonic missiles into the heart of US infrastructure?”
 
 
The reality that the US would without question nuke them in response, that’s what’s stopping Russia. 
 
Nobody doubts the US will use nukes. They’ve done it before. For the same reason nobody believes Russia will use nukes. 

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 7 2026 19:27 utc | 260

Anyway, the US won’t be impacted by the use of nukes. Beyond the economic disruption, things will return to normalcy with depressing speed afterwards.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 7 2026 19:08 utc | 251
 
That does seem rather an exceptionalist approach to take. Economic disruption includes a wholesale boycott of the forthcoming World Cup, should the US terrorists decide to use a nuclear weapon; now, you, as an individual might not be bothered about sawkuh at all, but it is a huge corporate revenue generator, including some major US corporations as sponsors/partners.
 
And that is just for starters, the US corporations will be faced with the prospect of a worldwide boycott of their products and services.
 
Or how about a global boycott of US Treasury issuance? “On a long enough timeline, the bid-to-cover ratio falls to zero ”.
 
Boycott, diversify and sanction doesn’t just apply to the Zionist squatter camp at the eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea, it can, and will, be applied globally to that place constantly proclaiming its “Manifest Destiny”.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 7 2026 19:30 utc | 261

US corporations will be faced with the prospect of a worldwide boycott 
 
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 7 2026 19:30 utc | 261
 

 
A boycott doesn’t come close to the demand destruction a nuclear strike would cause in our interconnected economy.
 
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 7 2026 19:36 utc | 262

 Russia is not going to “ally” herself to a smoking crater.
Posted by: catdog | Apr 7 2026 19:18 utc | 252
———-
Russia is a depleted junkpile of a country now thanks to the leader having the same brain as yourself 

Posted by: aaaa | Apr 7 2026 19:37 utc | 263

Saint Jimmy | Apr 7 2026 14:16 utc | 7His own statements on his own social media platform should have him in a straight jacket.  I’ve done all I can on it, protests, except for growing food and helping neighbors just about, do get a tiny bit from grocery store like once a month, no part in any corporate(and that is a locally owned chain).Well back to the point you made, not a psychologist, but have taken psych course.What Trump though is like.  I am pretty certain it was The Clockwork Orange, the deranged character, who did fall into the control of another deranged character, lol only not deranged character in the movie might have been a military recruiter that denied the first “service” as they when asked why they were Kill Kill Kill.  Actually think they would have gotten in with that.Trump though is deranged as the “Kill Kill Kill” that in that movie was denied military service.  Since I cannot find it as a clip maybe that was in the book instead.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Apr 7 2026 19:38 utc | 264

🇮🇶 Kuwaiti flag removed from the consulate in Basra, southern Iraq, following an evening US strike launched from Kuwaiti territory that hit a civilian home.

Posted by: dp | Apr 7 2026 19:38 utc | 265

B52s are on the way.  How is Iran defenseless against these planes?  I thought they had competent air defenses.  Meanwhile, Russian planes don’t dare fly too deep into Ukraine, if at all.  Like it or not, America is the world’s ONLY superpower.

Posted by: bored | Apr 7 2026 19:39 utc | 266

A boycott doesn’t come close to the demand destruction a nuclear strike would cause in our interconnected economy.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 7 2026 19:40 utc | 267

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 7 2026 19:27 utc | 260
I’m skeptical that the US would retaliate against Russia with nukes as that would immediately result in Armageddon and the end of the world as we know it. You really think Americas is willing to go there? The larger and more powerful an animal is, the more cautious it is in engaging in violent confrontations with equally powerful animals. Humans are no different.

Posted by: Nemesis | Apr 7 2026 19:40 utc | 268

Kuwaiti flag removed from the consulate in Basra
 
Posted by: dp | Apr 7 2026 19:38 utc | 265
 

 
All the Satrapies on the Persian Gulf are on fire this evening.
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 7 2026 19:41 utc | 269

Oh dear, pressed ‘Enter’ before navigating to the comment field, apologies.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 7 2026 19:41 utc | 270

So, what I was trying to say, is that a boycott is an intrinsic part of demand destruction.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 7 2026 19:43 utc | 271

@William Gruff:
 
You assert that neither Russia nor China will use nukes in a reaction to the US or Israel using them on Iran. 
 
Don’t you think Russia and China understand that they’re next if they stand by and allow Iran to be nuked?
 
Don’t you think they realize that the “We’re Crazy! We’ll  use nukes! So do as we say” gambit has to be faced down?
 
How do you see Russia and China avoiding slave-vassal status if they permit US/Israel to nuke Iran?

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Apr 7 2026 19:45 utc | 272

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/30538?single
@the ugly Orange loser at the White House:
“Come closer.”

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 7 2026 19:46 utc | 273

The USA might not nuke Tehran, it could nuke a smaller city the way the USA didn’t nuke Tokyo in WW2, it might also nuke a remote spot in the country as message, a way of getting their feet wet, a way to sell a narrative of “restraint”, if Iran doesn’t surrender it’s then an easy sell to the Billion of the Golden Fleeced who will bleat in chorus, “they had it coming”. I hope that’s not the calculus, but if the USA does use a nuke on some remote facility to “send a message”, then that’ll be the calculus. I think the tweet, “I GAVE THEM EVERY F’ING CHANCE IMAGINABLE” and the media refrain press packet barrage is well prepared even if never used.
 
No one will nuke the USA, but if Iran falls Russia will be cornered, foresight would have been to give Iran enough warheads to salt the earth of Israel and make sure the USA and Israel know it. Granted Putin has no love for Iran’s fundamentalist leadership and a sound fear that it would spiral in unforeseen ways, and, it’s the really the RF military’s decision not his. I assume the RF military won’t think sentimentally or philosophically about Israel versus Russia’s Caspian flank, I’m not sure Putin will either. That decision too will have been prepared for a quite a while now.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 7 2026 19:47 utc | 274

How is Iran defenseless against these planes?  
 
Posted by: bored | Apr 7 2026 19:39 utc | 266
 

 
The planes won’t get close.  They are platforms for standoff weapons.  The long range stealthy JASSM-ER cruise missile of which only about 480 remain in inventory.
 
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 7 2026 19:47 utc | 275

Israel commented on its attack on the synagogue in Tehran.

https://en.topwar.ru/280642-v-izraile-prokommentirovali-svoj-udar-po-sinagoge-v-tegerane.html

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 7 2026 19:48 utc | 276

Don’t you think Russia and China understand that they’re next if they stand by and allow Iran to be nuked?

Well, when they nuke the US, they will be 100% next. 
 

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 7 2026 19:48 utc | 277

I find it no longer useful to attempt any interpretation of such threats. They are likely a reaction to the failed Isfahan operation.

 
The second sentence is an interpretation of the threat as a hissy fit. I suppose that’s plausible. Another would be that it’s a sexual fantasy, maybe with an issue about premature ejaculation? (Yes, I concede I’m not a very good writer in my first language.) 
 
Another stylistic note? The Zionist enterprise is definitely both a state and one defined by religious/racial* Jewishness. It is also a colonial enterprise in an age where most colonial invasions have been replaced by neocolonialism. Also there are Christian states, Islamic states, if Modi has his way a Hindu(tva) state, plus confessional states of the past. There is a reason it is not customary to write “Christendom.” Doing that suggests the writer means to contrast a true Christianity or Judaism to the real thing. See no true Scotsman.
 
Once again I object to the use of the propagandist meme TACO. Does our host mean to criticize Trump for lack of balls in not delivering real genocide….and landing on Kharg Island would be chickening out? No, landing on Kharg would not  be chickening out! 
 
*The distinction common made between religious and racial is much blurrier and more misleading than commonly acknowledged. Decades ago speakers in English apparently began to speak of racial bigotry as a form of bigotry, which had previously referred largely to religion inspired hatred. Then defenders of religion redefined bigotry so that it only referred to bigotry. Indeed, it tended to regard secularism or atheism as bigotry in themselves, rather than opponents to bigotry. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 7 2026 19:50 utc | 278

boycott is an intrinsic part of demand destruction.
 
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 7 2026 19:43 utc | 271
 

 
Boycott is a consumer’s choice.  Demand destruction is when the clearing price is insufficient to insure supply.
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 7 2026 19:50 utc | 279

re: UNSC Bahrain attempt to broaden the conflict. 
 
So, lets get this straight,  China, Russia vetoed, US/UK abstained? and Macron French fries flipped as predicted to ‘in favour’.   Good to know.  Noted. 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 7 2026 19:51 utc | 280

The entire world cheer if Russia, after suitable advanced notice is communicated to NSA/ Pentagon/NYT etc, takes out Mar-a-Lago with conventional missiles.

Posted by: Nemesis | Apr 7 2026 19:52 utc | 281

Boycott is a consumer’s choice.

Posted by: too scents | Apr 7 2026 19:50 utc | 279
 
Which can drive policy decisions by governments.
 

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 7 2026 19:54 utc | 282

Its a MAD MAD MAD world
 
If a nuke is used against Iran I expect Dimona to be hit to turn it into a nuke bomb and Iran will end the GCC dictatorships
 
Will nations other than the US/Occupied Palestine uses nukes in support of Iran?
I think it is quite likely.  If nations with nukes don’t use them now in support of Iran then the God Of Mammon cult can use them elsewhere and will feel embolden to do so…..how far the MAD exchange goes is still open for discussion but we didn’t get here by mistake……its a challenge against the cancer in our species represented by the God Of Mammon cult and its Epstein Class acolytes.
 
Its a MAD MAD MAD world

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 7 2026 19:54 utc | 283

@266 ” Like it or not, America is the world’s ONLY superpower.”
No its not.  America cant even open a little 40K wide strait. 
Nor can America prevent the soon to be closed Bab-el-Mandeb Strait.
Like it or not America is a Paper Tiger with one leg on fire.
 

Posted by: golddigger | Apr 7 2026 19:54 utc | 284

Well it seems perhaps Russia and China should get some assets in the air flying in formation toward the point of confrontation.

Posted by: Ken Hausle | Apr 7 2026 19:55 utc | 285

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 7 2026 18:07 utc | 216
 
> Though I can understand why you might not want them as your neighbour.
 
1500 km away… that’s some far away neighbor. Well, you are also my neighbor, fellow Earthling. 😛
 
 
Posted by: Nemesis | Apr 7 2026 19:22 utc | 257
 
> So what’s stopping Russia from justifiably taking launching a couple of non-nuclear hypersonic missiles into the heart of US infrastructure? Surely everyone knows the US has way more to lose if it went MAD and therefore wouldn’t escalate.
 
Uncontrolled global escalation, most likely nuclear. Nuclear powers don’t attack each other directly without a proxy or pretense. Leaving your opponent without a face-saving way out is a bad move. No matter how much US is going to lose, they HAVE to respond.
 
 
Posted by: Nemesis | Apr 7 2026 19:40 utc | 268
 
>I’m skeptical that the US would retaliate against Russia with nukes as that would immediately result in Armageddon and the end of the world as we know it. You really think Americas is willing to go there? The larger and more powerful an animal is, the more cautious it is in engaging in violent confrontations with equally powerful animals. Humans are no different.
 
They will launch nukes unless stopped by someone sane. It almost happened already.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Arkhipov?useskin=vector#Role_in_the_Cuban_Missile_Crisis

Posted by: 俺様 | Apr 7 2026 19:58 utc | 286

Just to be clear, there will be no nuke, US corporate interests will not allow it.
 
Actually, @ psychohistorian’s Cult of Mammon will not allow it, the blowback is too dangerous for them; they risk destroying the “balance sheets” by which they congratulate themselves on how “wealthy” they are.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 7 2026 20:00 utc | 287

I Posted by: fnord | Apr 7 2026 14:10 utc | 1
I think we are at the event I have been waiting for. The stockpiles of MALD-D running so low they cannot suppress air defense systems with every wave effectively. They can still deploy MALD-C but they don’t have the threat of destruction of the radar at the end of mission. We are close, perhaps after this next major strike, for IRAN to deploy its full air defense. Rumble in the Jungle baby. As long as the hit is absorbed without triggering Iran’s apocalyptic response doctrine of the destruction of all gulf region oil/gas facilities. As they might have to. We might get out of this without the end of modern civilization. In case you people don’t understand Iran has had that option on the table with its SRBM’s this whole time. 30% of fertilizer, oil and natural gas off the market for a decade after the world recovers from the chaos of what happens when you have food for 5 billion with 8 billion people in the world. They will not go quietly into the night if history is a guide.

Posted by: Badjoke | Apr 7 2026 20:01 utc | 288

All stand-off weapons, nothing is fired inside Iranian air-space, contrary to fake news outlets.
 
The GBU-39/B Small Diameter Bomb is a 250-pound precision-guided glide bomb that is intended to allow aircraft perform outside where there is no aerial dominance.  – Do your own research. 
 
🇮🇷🇺🇸| An unexploded advanced GBU-39 SDB projectile was recovered fully intact in Lorestan Province.The projectile, after being defused, has been handed over to the IRGC, in Lorestan province. The IRIB says this is of high value to obtain information.

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 7 2026 20:02 utc | 289

What was the point of all the Iran, Chinese and Russian naval exercises in the gulf ?
 
Pure theatre for years ?

Posted by: Andrew | Apr 7 2026 20:02 utc | 290

Nemesis @ 268
 

I’m skeptical that the US would retaliate against Russia with nukes as that would immediately result in Armageddon and the end of the world as we know it. You really think Americas is willing to go there? 
 

Correct, the Wall St./London criminals that run the Empire are not ideological and will always save their skin. The reason the USA started WW3 is because they were 100% certain their equivalents that run Russia and China, and Iran for that matter, were exactly the same as them: spivs, criminals, mafiosos, opportunists, with no ties to land, history, people or culture. If you spend your entire life in a gilded room smelling your own farts you believe that’s the perfume of the world, it explains a good part of the rationale, and miscalculations, of ClownWorld.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 7 2026 20:04 utc | 291

On the other hand, I suppose dropping a nuke could be seen as the Mother Of All Debt Defaults.
 
Maybe that is Trump’s idea after all? How many times have his businesses collapsed?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 7 2026 20:04 utc | 292

DW: Col Larry Wilkerson
 
https://www.youtube.com/@dialogueworks01/streams
 
“US & Iran in direct ground war; air-strikes hit devastating all time peak.”
 
 
Syriana Analysis
 
https://www.youtube.com/@SyrianaAnalysis/streams
 
“Why Iran has already won this war.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 7 2026 20:05 utc | 293

Pakistan haws submitted a proposal that would delay Trump’s deadline by 2 weeks. News reports say Tehran and Washington are reviewing it. 

Posted by: Groovinpict | Apr 7 2026 20:05 utc | 294

Headline on NYT front page, middle, today:
“World Perilously Low on a Life-Saving Weapon”

I thought maybe some type of medication was meant whose availability is being impacted by closure of the Strait of Hormuz.

No, the “life-saving weapon” is . . .  interceptors.

See it here:
https://x.com/ukpapers/status/2041457454513545642

This is so effed in multiple ways that I don’t know where to begin.
 
For starters, the NYT is clearly only interested in saving lives of Israelis.

For seconders, the NYT clearly excludes Iran and other entities from its concept of “world.”
 

For thirders, the NYT sees no problem with labeling armaments—it makes no difference whether they are offensive or defensive, they are still armaments, tools of WAR— as “life-saving.”

Who still follows the demented MSM?

Posted by: Jane | Apr 7 2026 20:06 utc | 295

@ 290
Iranian air defenses were probably extensively degraded last year and then further degraded over the course of this war. When your air defense capabilities are degraded there’s not much you can do with your naval assets, especially when they’re (seemingly in Iran’s case, I could be wrong) very specialized as drone launch platforms and of minimal use in an air/missile defense capacity.
 
We see a similar problem with Russia’s navy, where they are not very well-equipped for missile and drone defense, making them big, expensive, targets for inexpensive Ukrainian missiles and drones. US naval assets seem to be better equipped in this regard, although the IRGC may have some tricks up its sleeve if the US navy gets too close. Any invasion of Kharg island for example is going to have to cope with whatever the IRGC has left in terms of naval attack drones as well as its still apparently ample missile supplies.

Posted by: fnord | Apr 7 2026 20:08 utc | 296

The Garden must be protected and preserved at all cost even if 90 million animals turn into glass.
Posted by: Surferket | Apr 7 2026 15:43 utc | 77
 

There’s always the real possibility that such a coup would result in an even more fascist-genocidalist regime than the one we have now.
Posted by: malenkov | Apr 7 2026 17:52 utc | 196

 
Exactly. Americans have yet to taste a tiny fraction of the suffering that they’ve caused abroad and already they are whining about things being too difficult for them. They’re already casting blame on everyone except themselves, just like good little fascists.
 
The Americans have convinced themselves that Iran will be nuked soon, and at the same time, the Americans have convinced themselves that they are powerless to stop it.
 
Read that again. Think about what it implies about the American psyche. The Iranians and the Palestinians encounter far, far more resistance than Americans, in the form of American bombs and missiles blowing them into bloody bits and American sanctions starving them to death, and still the Iranians and Palestinians fight on. The Americans know this. Yet, the Americans would rather claim that they are powerless to stop Iranians from being nuked. The absence of the ability to endure any hardship and the absence of any sense of urgency betray the Americans’ true wishes.
 
Regular Joe Americans want Iran to be nuked, blame it on the American government, elect new political representatives, wash their hands of the whole affair, and continue pretending to be innocent.
 
Americans are not the victims of America that they portray themselves to be. The Americans are beneficiaries of America.
 
The examples below buttress my point:

Who is going to object? The nations within the Empire will certainly not object. Russia and China probably would do next to nothing other than take a PR advantage of the situation since their leadership is not crazy like ours is (in the US).
Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Apr 7 2026 14:56 utc | 32
 

When will the American people rise?
It’s a laughable question. They won’t rise, they can’t rise. The American people are broken, ignorant, brainwashed, and divided against themselves. They are incapable of neither rational thought or united action. We are the moron nation, raised from birth to be consumer drones. If your waiting for Americans to rise, your gonna be waiting a long time.
Posted by: Maverick | Apr 7 2026 15:21 utc | 59
 

When will the American people rise?
You are very good at condemnation, but I’d like to ask what are you suggesting for the “American people” to do? Are you planning to lead this rising? Who and how many are you saying should be doing this? What actually are you going to do? Are you going to provide the funding for this rising? How do you expect 330 million people to rise individually without any planning and organization and what would they actually be doing? Are you going to provide military and legal support for this rising because any rising of the “American people” will face confrontation, arrests, and prosecutions?
Posted by: Belle | Apr 7 2026 15:36 utc | 68
 

I fought the system my entire life and have nothing to show for it. I never could even find anyone willing to stand beside me. I have no solutions, only condemnations. I will say this, the system cannot be reformed, only destroyed. Perhaps one day the people will rise, when they are living with nothing in the ruin that was their lives. But then of course it will be far too late.
Posted by: Maverick | Apr 7 2026 15:42 utc | 76
 

Not just complete silence from allies. But rivals as well.
Surfed all newsfeeds of varying nations, China, Russia, India, Brazil, Pakistan…. All rather mum & yawning. The usual in every line: we believe that only a diplomatic solution… blah blah
Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 7 2026 15:46 utc | 86
 

Get off your high horse. If I was looking for rewards….I wouldn’t have done it. Don’t put this fucked up nation on my head.
Posted by: Maverick | Apr 7 2026 15:53 utc | 97
 

Called all my worthless congress critters to DO SOMETHING about the psycho with his fingers on the nuclear football. Hubby says they’re coming to take me away.
Mentioned the 13 dead military members have probably died at least 100 times each by now. Evil government. We’re the terrorists, the Israeli foreign legion.
Posted by: cc | Apr 7 2026 16:49 utc | 155
 

“When will Americans rise?” Please stop asking this. Not possible. Our bank accounts would be frozen–just as the Canadian Truckers’ were. US is a dictatorship.
Posted by: susan mullen | Apr 7 2026 18:15 utc | 219
 

The problem is not democracy … the problem is that “fine and cunning web” of normalcy that has been woven that holds the population to actions that they would never otherwise countenance.
Posted by: Caliman | Apr 7 2026 18:25 utc | 228

 
If the Americans truly believe that they are staring down at impending nuclear apocalypse, why are Americans still worrying about funding/bank accounts, legal support, their Congressmen etc? Those are human-imposed systems. There are always workarounds for human-imposed systems. Hamas beat up shopkeepers who engage in war profiteering.
 
Americans are still worrying about human-imposed systems because Americans are operating under the belief that they won’t be nuked. Therefore, Americans still want to preserve those human-imposed systems. Americans still want to preserve America.
 
“Normalcy” is material comforts. Americans are insulated from the consequences of their actions abroad. Americans will defend their service members as innocent order-followers, and in the next breath, they would wonder about the absence of military support for their planned revolution to overthrow America.
 
Maverick, Belle etc are oblivious to the fact that they are very much an integral part of the imperial machinery, of the system, of America.
 
Are you an American? Then you are the enemy of Iranians and humanity everywhere.
 
Your continued existence as an American gives Trump the power to do all the things he does. Clean water, food, power, shelter etc in America—these do not appear out of thin air. They are the products of human labor. You all work hard to preserve America so that America can continue its murderous rampage around the world. It’s a rampage that Americans affectionately call Manifest Destiny, a rampage that has not ceased since America’s founding.
 
To stop America, you must stop being an American. Every fiber of your being and every moment of your existence need to be dedicated to bringing America down.
 
But you won’t commit because being an American supersedes all other concerns.
 
Instead, Americans will blame Russia and China for not stopping America from nuking Iran, launch wars against Russia and China for this alleged crime against humanity (the crime of not stopping America from committing crimes against humanity), then pat themselves on the back for being the beacon of freedom/democracy/justice in the world.
 
Which is why an even more openly fascist government will come into power in America after Trump. That is what Americans want.
 
Death to America
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 7 2026 20:09 utc | 297

I said it on the last thread in an exploratory sort of way and got no response.
Now i say it again LOUDLY
 
USA DELENDA EST
 
The world will NEVER be safe again while the USA lives.  How to achieve it.  2 days ago I felt that an embarrassing military withdrawal and economic collapse would be sufficient to trigger a reasonably amicable break up, like in the USSR,
 
Someone, China, Russia and the rest of the world MUST take hold of US nukes.  Then force a break up into 10-14 nation.
 
This is no longer optional.
 
Problem of course is how.  
 
 

Posted by: watcher | Apr 7 2026 20:10 utc | 298

Once again I object to the use of the propagandist meme TACO. Does our host mean to criticize Trump for lack of balls in not delivering real genocide….and landing on Kharg Island would be chickening out? No, landing on Kharg would not be chickening out! 
Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 7 2026 19:50 utc | 278
One thing we agree on.  Some Zio definitely made that up.  It’s like goading a chimp with a machine gun in a crowded public venue.  
What?  He didn’t commit genocide as he promised?  What a pussy!  And no nukes?  Total wimp!  
Think of your own memes.  Leave it to the Imperialist media and you end up with crypto Zio memes like TACO.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 7 2026 20:12 utc | 299

This is so effed in multiple ways that I don’t know where to begin.

Posted by: Jane | Apr 7 2026 20:06 utc | 295
 
Thanks for that, it is a mind-boggling interpretation by the NYT.
 
My first thought was that Orwell would have been proud of the concept of a “life-saving weapon”, for inclusion in his concept of newspeak; my second thought was “No, he would be sickened by the idea”.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 7 2026 20:15 utc | 300

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