Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
April 6, 2026
War On Iran: – Failed Special Operation – Threat Escalation – Trump’s Victory Timeline

The U.S. government claims that it had launched a large rescue mission near Isfahan, Iran, to retrieve the weapon officer of an F-15 airplane which was downed while it was bombing that country.

When I read the first version of that story I replied:

Moon of Alabama @MoonofA – 14:28 UTC · Apr 5, 2026

Bridges on sale …

Jennifer Griffin @JenGriffinFNC · Apr 5
According to a senior administration official:
Prior to locating the WSO (Weapons System Officer) and the US military’s daring rescue, the CIA first launched a deception campaign spreading word inside Iran that U.S. forces had already found him and were moving him on the ground …

The U.S. may have found and retrieved the F-15 officer. But that will have been tens of miles from the place near Isfahan where it lost two HC-130 transport planes and four MH-6 special force helicopters. That special force operation was most likely an attempt to steal enriched Uranian known to be hidden under a mountain somewhere around Isfahan. Such an  operation was pre-viewed on April 1 by the Washington Post:

Risky commando plan to seize Iran’s uranium came at Trump’s request (archived)

It seems that the attempt ran into an ambush like situation and had to evacuate.

For details see how Will Schryver and Armchair Warlord are connecting the dots. Iranian analysts agree with their take.

In other news Trump is using foul language to threaten Iran with further war crimes. Iran promises adequate retaliation. The markets react to discipline U.S. action. Another TACO is likely to happen.

Added for later reference: Trump’s “victory” claims:

Mar 3: “We won the war.”
Mar 7: “We defeated Iran.”
Mar 9: “We must attack Iran.”
Mar 9: “The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully.”
Mar 11: “You never like to say too ⁠early you won. We won. In ​the first hour it was over.”
Mar 12: “We did win, but we haven’t won completely yet.”
Mar 13: “We won the war.”
Mar 14: “Please help us.”
Mar 15: “If you don’t help us, I will certainly remember it.”
Mar 16: “Actually, we don’t need any help at all.”
Mar 16: “I was just testing to see who’s listening to me.”
Mar 16: “If NATO doesn’t help, they will suffer something very bad.”
Mar 17: “We neither need nor want NATO’s help.”
Mar 17: “I don’t need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO.”
Mar 18: “Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz.”
Mar 19: “US allies need to get a grip – step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz.”
Mar 20: “NATO are cowards.”
Mar 21: “The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don’t use it, we don’t need to open it.”
Mar 22: “This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the strait”
Mar 22: “Iran is Dead”
Mar 23: “We had very good and productive talks with Iran.”
Mar 24: “We’re making progress.”
Mar 25: “They gave us a present and the present arrived today. And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I’m not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.”
Mar 26: “Make a deal, or we’ll just keep blowing them away.”
Mar 27: “We don’t have to be there for NATO.”
Mar 28: No major quote
Mar 29: Claimed talks were progressing
Mar 30: “Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately, or face devastating consequences.”
Mar 31: Claimed a deal was “very close” and that Iran would “do the right thing”
Apr 1: “We’ll see what happens very soon.”
Apr 2: Repeated that a deal was likely, while warning of continued strikes if not
Apr 3: “Something big is going to happen.”
Apr 4: Said Iran must comply “immediately” or face further consequences.
Apr 5: “Open the fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell – JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah.”

Comments

Ukraine has had successes in the Oleksandrivka sector in the southeastern part of the country, where the regions of Dnipropetrovsk, Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia meet. This according to Ukraine friendly sources.

Posted by: rageman | Apr 6 2026 18:59 utc | 201

Posted by: Whipping Post | Apr 6 2026 17:46 utc | 170 Re imaginary underground cities self-sufficient for indefinite survival, until at some unknown date the inhabitants can return to the surface? Done, it’s called Silo, an Apple TV series. It’s science fiction, where the science is always fictional. (The better sort acknowledges some real science and technology for verisimilitude, but usually papers over the gaps between now and a supposedly possible future with visual effects and techn0babble, some of which has  a little more plausibility but is still handwaving.) 
 
In real life, the only true effort at self-sufficient environments was the old Biosphere 2 project, which failed. (The online reports of some success with Russian BIOS-3 are not usefully detailed, leaving the claims of relative success for 1-3 people for “months” doubtful, to me at least.) 
 
These fantasies which could play a positive role in setting goals for future research (why some scientists love SF, though others hate the fictional science) are best left to maniacs like Elon Musk or Peter Thiel and others. 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 6 2026 19:00 utc | 202

@198 Bismarck

Iran says high enriched is buried under rubble and inaccessible, fwiw.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 6 2026 19:03 utc | 203

What theyre really asking is ‘is this Ukrainian counteroffensive in the room with us right now?’

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 6 2026 19:05 utc | 204

Russian MFA issued a statement on the war that mostly reviewed what’s transpired that’s currently only available in Russian. Here’re some excerpts:
 

The massive international crisis caused by the illegal unprovoked aggression of the United States and Israel against Iran continues to expand and worsen by the day. Attacks are becoming increasingly ferocious and destructive, targeting not only military targets but also civilian infrastructure, including, increasingly, nuclear facilities under IAEA safeguards. Of particular concern are the multiplying reckless attacks on the Bushehr nuclear power plant, which have resulted in loss of life. The shadow of a radiological catastrophe more devastating than Chernobyl hangs over the Persian Gulf region and the surrounding part of Eurasia….
 
The situation, which arose as a result of the illegal and irresponsible actions of Washington and Tel Aviv, is rapidly deteriorating and threatens to finally get out of control….
 
We believe that there are still chances for a political and diplomatic settlement of the conflict. The parties need to abandon the language of threats, impermissible insults and ultimatums, and avoid actions that could bring the entire region into irreparable chaos.

 
As I wrote earlier, Russia should understand Iran’s grounds for a solution since they are very similar to those of the SMO–neither wants to return to war and wants closure to be as permanent as possible.  

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 6 2026 19:06 utc | 205

What does enriched uranium look like?
 
Posted by: Bismarck | Apr 6 2026 18:53 utc | 198

 
Pink slime?

Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 6 2026 19:08 utc | 206

Yes, I have been trying to follow Artemis, I have been a space and Astronomy enthusiast since Apollo. This is a sad joke.
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 6 2026 18:34 utc | 193
I’m just like you. I have been an amateur astronomer since Apollo days and followed it vigilantly. “Sky and Telescope” my go to magazine. The other was “Aviation Week & Space Technology”
I won’t go into too much detail but today we have a great tool to debunk the fairy tale of “Landing on the Moon” indirectly. It is called AI. It has helped me to do some heavy mathematics to show that what is said to be observed in some of their videos is Reality. I’m certain no man was ever on its surface.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 6 2026 19:09 utc | 207

The Biosphere 2 failed even with a crew of 4 men and 4 women trying to survive for 2 years. Let’s ignore the Oxygen depletion because of the concrete walls and microorganisms. The food sustainability is not even enough for a crew of 8 despite all the efforts to grow food crops. Thus, the idea of a self sustainable underground bunker still remains in the realm of science fiction

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 6 2026 19:11 utc | 208

Ornot | Apr 6 2026 19:03 utc | 203
 
Incorrect. During the negotiations on 27 February, Iran said they had accounted for all 408 kilos and was willing to surrender them. 

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 6 2026 19:12 utc | 209

It is called AI. It has helped me to do some heavy mathematics to show that what is said to be observed in some of their videos is Reality. I’m certain no man was ever on its surface.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 6 2026 19:09 utc | 207
Ooops, mean to say “is not Reality”

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 6 2026 19:13 utc | 210

Even in the comic  fantasy world there is no equivalent to donald trump,
He will become a cartoon character after he is gone, hopefully soon. The  writings in his blog will become a best selling comic book.
That is how Donald Trump will be remembered in a school books

Posted by: Virgile | Apr 6 2026 19:14 utc | 211

The goal to seize the enriched uranium did not materialize.

Posted by: pepe | Apr 6 2026 19:14 utc | 212

Trump has “the best plan ever but won’t tell yet.”
 
What a tease! But it drives me wild to have such a powerful president. I don’t even care if he has all the power and I don’t. 
 
*bites lip*

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 6 2026 19:16 utc | 213

@209 Karlof

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mTGyR4OaGGk

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 6 2026 19:16 utc | 214

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 6 2026 19:05 utc | 204You could say the same thing about Russia. The truth is, it’s probably back to the status quo again, with both sides giving and taking losses. It’s a real shit sandwich the Russians have gotten themselves into. They’re stuck in quicksand and have no idea how to get out. Putin is trying to butter up the madman Trump and is still hoping for some kind of peace deal to get out of it. He can forget that. They’ll keep holding Putin back in the quicksand for several more years.

Posted by: rageman | Apr 6 2026 19:16 utc | 215

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 6 2026 19:12 utc | 209 If I remember correctly  Iran’s foreign minster said that it was under the rubble or something to that effect.. I think he was joking though

Posted by: dp | Apr 6 2026 19:16 utc | 216

Someone posted the actual statement in the comments of the X tweet claiming that the Iranians said they hit the Tripoli.
I tried to copy and paste, but it didn’t work, but what the statement said is that the IRGC targeted the ship, forcing it to withdraw to the Indian Ocean.
Nothing about hitting or sinking it.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Apr 6 2026 19:17 utc | 217

https://youtu.be/BhtUdsYKjtk 
 
Interesting video of the day.  Title is:  Airlines Cancelling Flights Due to Jet Fuel Cost – USA Losing Iran War
 
After I reported on the headline of this news story, I could not find the article anywhere.  I do not think that the AP was supposed to print something like this.  Some highlights from the video.
 
He made a LOT of biting comments about Israel.  Discussing Israeli – US relations as to why we attacked Iran (friendly reminder, the US started this war):
So we got into this disastrous war with Iran because… I don’t know.  Because Netanyahu said “snap snap snap”  Dogs DO NOT ASK QUESTIONS Dogs fucking fetch.”  Our execution of the Iranian war is an Onion version of the Iraqi war.  You can tell that we “won the war” by the fact that Iran continues launching missiles at Israel.
 
So he is not a fan of the war or of Israel.  Now onto the main event – Jet Fuel Shortages (not inflation, shortages).  Gas prices at American pumps:  not TOO bad.  Jet fuel prices and diesel prices?  Much worse.  Americans could care less about fuel issues in Vietnam or Europe or Africa.  We only care when it affects us.
 
In the article, the picture is of a grounded United Air Lines plane.  This is a plane that transports REAL HUMAN BEINGS.  Not like an Ethiopian airplane or a Vietnamese one.  So Americans care.    The American way of thinking.  Jet fuel has recently more than doubled in price.  The world is facing issues finding jet fuel to buy, and will see a growing scarcity of jet fuel continuing in May.  Ryanair, Europe’s largest airline, is considering reducing routes starting in May.  If the war goes on, increased “disruption” as time goes on.  Lufthansa and Scandinavian Airlines are preparing for reducing routes starting in May.    United Airlines is planning for reduced flights over the next 2 quarters, starting with unprofitable flights.  From a message on the United Airlines website from the CEO, United Airlines is expecting jet fuel to cost an extra 11 billion a year.  United’s biggest profit ever was 5 billion.  International air lines are planning for cuts starting May 1, and a few have cut routes starting already, April 1.  United implies that it may already be cutting some of its red eye flights, but are not so definitive.
 
Summary:  very minor cuts right now.  Starting on May 1, unless something changes, reductions in the number of flights will noticeably start.  If you can’t get jet fuel, you can’t fly.

Posted by: Woke American | Apr 6 2026 19:19 utc | 218

@214 Ornot

Above was first link that appeared, another…

“Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi says Iran’s stockpile of highly enriched uranium is buried “under the rubble,” and that Tehran… Times of Israel” 15 March

This has been stated by Iran more recently.

Fwiw.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 6 2026 19:23 utc | 219

Ornot @ 219
 

“Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi says Iran’s stockpile of highly enriched uranium is buried “under the rubble,”
 
Fwiw.

 
Fwiw, exactly. Iran isn’t a good school boy that always tells the truth, it’s a nation state in an existential struggle. Wherever their nuclear stockpile is they are going to say what serves them best and their enemies least. Whether it’s under the rubble or not, “under the rubble” is the best story to tell.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 6 2026 19:36 utc | 220

“Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi says Iran’s stockpile of highly enriched uranium is buried “under the rubble,” and that Tehran… Times of Israel” 15 March
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 6 2026 19:23 utc | 219
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Hmm; if true, possibly a nice safe place, to be retrieved when the war is over.
 
Or, as someone posted, a joke.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Apr 6 2026 19:36 utc | 221

too scents | Apr 6 2026 18:22 utc | 184
*** Trump flying off to join the Moon Mission. Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 6 2026 18:17 utc | 182 — Trump is shitting in a diaper in solidarity with the Artemis astronauts. ***
 
The so-called “astronauts” seem as bad a hollywood little-hat scripted load of hysterical dumbed down mass-media crap as their rotten President and his deranged goon-show at the White House.  Though, to be fair, apparently not psychopathic.
Not content with striving to ensure that earth is forever toxic and unhinged,  the “USA” is also determined to make the entire universe the same.  Human (alleged) evolution was just a waste of time.

Posted by: Cynic | Apr 6 2026 19:37 utc | 222

What does enriched uranium look like? Posted by: Bismarck | Apr 6 2026 18:53 utc | 198
 
There was a good dokumentation called „yellow cake“ on YouTube so i asume it‘s yellow powder.

Posted by: M | Apr 6 2026 19:38 utc | 223

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 6 2026 19:23 utc | 219
 
Well, that was the lie agreed upon after the 12 day war.
 
It is in Iran’s strategic interest to maintain it.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 6 2026 19:40 utc | 224

LD is long gone?
Posted by: James M. | Apr 6 2026 13:50 utc | 64
Whatever happened to Love Donbas? I haven’t seen any posts from him lately. Was he banned, or did he just move on?

Posted by: Cable Guy | Apr 6 2026 19:47 utc | 225

What does enriched uranium look like? Posted by: Bismarck | Apr 6 2026 18:53 utc | 198
Posted by: M | Apr 6 2026 19:38 utc | 223
Prof. Postel showed slides where he has photos of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab1cfVNWF48

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 6 2026 19:49 utc | 226

Posted by: rageman | Apr 6 2026 19:16 utc | 215

The americans though are the ones whose position weakens week by week, day by day, hour by hour – while comparatively, Russia is strengthened. What a paradoxical reaction thst certainly must be frustrating to America, but reality is unequivocal. At some point they will need to relinquish their tar baby, but they are so terribly afraid of the loss of face. I will loan them 2 bucks to buy some tissues. At 11 percent.
 
The world should probably be relieved that american strategic planners couldn’t ‘throw a piss up in a brewery‘ as the old timers say. 

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 6 2026 19:50 utc | 227

@221 George

The rubble might have moved with it :-/

There is no way to know really, and this is a main part of this conflict; control of Iranian nuclear activity.

The meaning of that control to US can be projected as having unfeterred access to the whole country at will, nothing else being good or certain enough.

This is an unrealistic demand, basically asking for ‘regime change’, or providing credibility to any wanted US invention, even potentially allowing US to plant evidence that looks compromising.

Given US and “Israel” are in a hypocritical position also , and have known ambitions, it would not be a surprise if Iran was teaching them for being nosey.

Added to that is that in war, disinfo and setting traps is expected. Basically, Iran might appear stupid in this circumstance to say where its material is held, unless for an ambush maybe.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 6 2026 19:51 utc | 228

Cable Guy @ 125:
 
Yes, Love Donbass has been banned from posting on MoA. 

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Apr 6 2026 19:53 utc | 229

LD is long gone?Posted by: James M. | Apr 6 2026 13:50 utc | 64Whatever happened to Love Donbas? I haven’t seen any posts from him lately. Was he banned, or did he just move on?
Posted by: Cable Guy | Apr 6 2026 19:47 utc | 225

 
She was rightly banned, probably though only for a period.

Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 6 2026 19:54 utc | 230

Re my comment @ 229: Sorry, 125 should read as 225, I was answering to Cable Guy.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Apr 6 2026 19:55 utc | 231

So what is the Iranian fantasy world story here even supposed to be? The US blew up her body but her ID card survived unscathed? This entire conspiracy theory about a covered-up botched something seems to revolve around the C-130s not being right on top of the spot where the WSO was recovered. But the entire point of the C-130 was to extend the range of the rescue helicopters. Of course they didn’t land C-130s right on top of him. So what?
Posted by: catdog | Apr 6 2026 18:18 utc | 183
 
The entire “conspiracy theory” is that those types of aircraft aren’t used in operations of the kind described. That the calculus doesn’t make any sense, and that objectives Trump himself described fit the events as well or better than the story described by US authorities. 
 
And that’s outlandish to you, why exactly? Because it doesn’t align with the official story coming from a belligerent in the conflict that has every reason to bend a story to their advantage? And a President that can’t keep a logically consistent story for more than a few hours without contradicting himself or being corrected by others?
 
Who knows what the story is. But acting like there’s this insurmountable real version of the motives here, and anything else is “conspiracy”? Come on.
 
Since it relates, any thoughts on the Saudi passports that survived the airliners crashing into the World Trade Center?

Posted by: Centinel | Apr 6 2026 19:56 utc | 232

@220 LYFH

“Where you burried it”

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 6 2026 19:59 utc | 233

dp | Apr 6 2026 19:16 utc | 216
*** Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 6 2026 19:12 utc | 209 If I remember correctly  Iran’s foreign minster said that it was under the rubble or something to that effect.. I think he was joking though ***
 
He was merely taking President Trump’s word for it, after the US bombing mission last year.
And someone as well-informed as Trump would not lie, would he?

Posted by: Cynic | Apr 6 2026 20:00 utc | 234

Mahmood OD: |Strike in the Sea| Easter Attack|Harder Attacks|Iraqi Resistance Expands Reach|
 
https://www.youtube.com/@Mahmood_OD/videos
 
“Hizbullah hits the Israeli Navy| ‘Dedicated to Holy Mary’| Iran issues the final warning to US & Israel| Iraqi resistance expands reach|”
 
 
Seeing Like A Corporate:
 
https://indi.ca/seeing-like-a-corporate/
 
“What Black Friday means…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 6 2026 20:11 utc | 235

Re: talk of nukes
 
*stands in front of locked wardrobe*
 
*rustles old key from large iron key ring attached to sash of heavy robe*
 
*inserts old key into aged keyhole and turns with a heavy click*
 
*opens wardrobe andr removes prognostication hat made of wrinkled tinfoil and with varying genus of bird feathers glued haphazardly on*
 
*crosses eyes and begins to drool, channeling the spirits of old posters at the bar while rubbing temples*
 
Achschually, nuke use would kill a few birds with one stone: 
 

  1. DJT could be removed by popular mandate (Et Tu J.D.)
  2. The unfolding chaos would be the event needed for galvanizing the public towards a Neo-Building-7 event where the 40 trillion in debt is jubilized and we get Kamala-Bucks (Kamala’s shitcoin)
  3. Israel and co-conspirators could mop up Iran in a bloody conflict lasting years

 
*takes off hat, exhausted*
 
“Shirley temple, please, barkeep.”

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 6 2026 20:13 utc | 236

The Cradle News, Ep 197: ‘US Military Graveyard in Iran’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@thecradlemedia
 
“Trump lied? US pilot still in Iran, sources say.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 6 2026 20:17 utc | 237

25th Amendment on Trump NOW!

Posted by: aelfwed | Apr 6 2026 20:19 utc | 238

Netanyahu and his circle should all be immediately arrested, tried and imprisoned for life.

Posted by: aelfwed | Apr 6 2026 20:20 utc | 239

Cynic | Apr 6 2026 20:00 utc | 234
 
Yes, Trump declared his mighty Air Force had “obliterated” Iran’s nuclear program and its capabilities last June. But as many speculated, that cache was removed before June 13 and likely sequestered in at least one if not several missile cities. Or, it could have been taken to a new underground facility to process into the nuclear metal needed to construct weapons. Lots of possibilities. As I opined yesterday, it’s Hide-and-Go-Seek or Where’s Waldo or some other version of that game–finding a needle in a haystack is what Crooke calls it. But we know the nuclear issue has always been a ruse for the destruction of Iran as a state, but since Trump can’t attain that goal something must be done so he can announce Mission Accomplished, although many will remind him that he already announced that regarding Iran’s nuclear program. I know it’s a cultural mismatch, but even if special forces were to discover the location of Aladdin’s Cave, how are they going to open it? 

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 6 2026 20:21 utc | 240

I am a little disappointed that most people here have not seemed to grasp the catastrophe that has already been set in motion by this act of criminality by the USA. Millions are already going to starve later this year. The longer and and more extreme this goes the worse it will become. It could even go to hundreds of millions starving to death, with the collapse of nations wars and refugees in numbers greater than all refugees that have been in all of history combined. If we see the destruction of all major oil and gas infrastructure in south Western Asia it will be decades before humanity recovers. That this is on the table should be horrifying to everyone.

Posted by: Badjoke | Apr 6 2026 20:21 utc | 241

Posted by: Carlos Marques | Apr 6 2026 11:33 utc | 24
 
Great comment, I hope everyone takes the time to read it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and looking forward to hearing from you again, Carlos.
 
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 6 2026 11:23 utc | 22
 
Sorry Petri, video is not the same event under discussion. The V-22s are deployed with USS Tripoli, currently hiding 1200km away in the Indian Ocean.
 
Which brings us back to SOF or CSAR mission FUBAR?
 

  • The SOF op leaning crowd suggest enriched uranium heist as the objective.

 
Where’s the specialized pressurized containers for transporting such material?
I have no experience with radioactive material except being told not to pee where women or children may use same facility. But, some of you clever clogs may be able to explain the size, weight and complications, Hazmat suits associated with such an endeavour under combat conditions. 
 
As a layman, I call this option too far fetch and unfeasible.
 

  • CSAR op leaning crowd

 
The rank of the WSO is Colonel (0-6) and Deputy Wing Commander.
This in itself is very intriguing and may fall in the SOF category. However, a simpler explanation would be manpower issue. High intensity missions turn around, personnel locations, operating from makeshift runways while under constant harassment missile and drone attacks.
 
Anyway, too important to be captured.
 
SOF is tasked with extraction as PJs deemed unfeasible with the 2 HH-60 damaged. V-22s? Hiding in the Indian Ocean with USS Tripoli.
Typical gung-ho SOF with 2 braincells comes up with a wholly complex and extremely fraught plan of transport light AH-6s to spread out and locate said Colonel. Timing was of the essence as bandits were closing in and V-22s were too far out in the Indian Oceans to be of use. 
 
Read up on Larry’s take @ Sonar21.
 
Again, I stress, CSAR mission FUBAR.
 
Mission commander will be promoted to General rank.

Posted by: Suresh | Apr 6 2026 20:23 utc | 242

We live in frightening times because of the extremism of first, Ukraine – and now, Israel and the US.
After listening to Mercouris (not necessarily his conclusion),  “here we go again” !  Just as Ukraine refuses any compromise, no matter what, insisting on the practical capitulation of Russia – the same now applies to the conflict with Iran.  No compromise seems to be possible. Iran is ordered to capitulate, even if the demand is made somewhat quietly.
Where does this go?  Global depression,  acceleration of inflation, political disaster for at least a year – assuming that Trump can be impeached AND convicted – which looks unlikely. 
How does this end?  Only if the US runs out of weapons – the military outrightly rebels – or there’s a coup in the US – or the US falls into a crisis so severe it cannot continue against Iran,  I would predict that not even a stock market crash,  collapse of Treasury auctions,  rioting in major cities may not be enough to stop the Gulf war. Trump must, must, must win. Netanyahu must. must, must win.  Zelensky must, must, must win.  There is no middle ground here.  If they can’t be removed, then war goes on, no matter what.

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 6 2026 20:28 utc | 243

Tuesday morning here in Australia now.
 
Trump’s deadline is Tuesday evening American time I assume. The white house full of religious extremists …. nutters with nukes. Trump is not handling the defeat of his Epstein/MAGA forces very well. Anything could happen. As the Americans like to say – Nothing is off the table.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 6 2026 20:30 utc | 244

Netanyahu and his circle should all be immediately arrested, tried and imprisoned for life.
Posted by: aelfwed
Shoot these rabid dogs. 

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 6 2026 20:31 utc | 245

Someone still can’t answer, if supposedly a hundred or so special ops dudes lfew in, how did they leave?  It’s remarkable we have footage of them engaging tribes, and other phone footage, destroyed planes, copters, but absolutely ZERO footage of them getting away, and this in broad daylight?  It really is a miracle! joy. 
 
Analysists are beginning to question whether alot of them were either 
A. Killed 
B. Still on Iranian soil, camouflaged as sheep, or goats with guns.  (Goat Simulator 3 is out) 
 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 6 2026 20:31 utc | 246

Suresh | Apr 6 2026 20:23 utc | 242
 
Larry’s hypothesis has become more complex as he learns new details. The footage Nima provided added more goodies. I’m now going to listen to Ritter’s chat with Judge Nap to see what he has to add.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 6 2026 20:35 utc | 247

The downed pilot had an active transponder in his hand that he could burst communicate via sats his GPS location and text message his base. They should have know where he was and in what direction he was moving. Base would have given his instructions on which direction to move. Trump says he went to the top of mountain.
That makes the US version all the more unreasonable.

Posted by: circumspect | Apr 6 2026 20:35 utc | 248

Posted by: Badjoke | Apr 6 2026 20:21 utc | 241

 
Oh we grasp it, it’s just not very much we can do about it.

Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 6 2026 20:37 utc | 249

What is he talking about?
 
Sounds to me like he’s describing a gangbang he witnessed (probably on Epstein’s island).
 
https://fixvx.com/mylordbebo/status/2041244265951424598
 

Posted by: Siddhartha | Apr 6 2026 20:38 utc | 250

Amnesty now specializes in tear-jerkers about “prisoner of conscience” victims of “Putin’s regime”.
Posted by: malenkov | Apr 6 2026 15:46 utc | 111
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My introduction to Amnesty International was way back in the early 1970s when I lived in Germany. The original idea was about prisoners of conscience. An AI group woul “adopt” a prisoner of conscience and write letters to that person to make sure he/she was not totally forgotten by the outside world. These letter-writing campaigns did result in the release of some prisoners of conscience.
 
Since then AI seems to have abandoned that simple mission and to have become an international NGO that chooses sides in international conflicts and conducts media campaigns that seem to be little more than heavy-handed propaganda. Accusing grieving Iranians of exploiting their grief and their dead children for propaganda purposes is perverted and perverse.
 
I don’t think that was the original idea of AI.

Posted by: Jane | Apr 6 2026 20:44 utc | 251

So it seems clear at this point that what actually happened was that the US either fabricated to story of persons downed behind enemy lines or they were in fact downed and used this situation to provide cover/justification for sending in a commando force and conveniently it was also around the corner from Isfahan so they could gather the nuclear material and be home in time for dinner.

Posted by: jared | Apr 6 2026 20:44 utc | 252

❗️🇺🇸/🇮🇷 NEW: An American MQ-9 ‘Reaper’ drone was shot down above Qeshm
 
These are being popped like flies… 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 6 2026 20:45 utc | 253

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 6 2026 15:47 utc | 112
Nobody has any weapons.  Sure sign its training.  It does look like the National Training Center in California.

Posted by: circumspect | Apr 6 2026 20:46 utc | 254

CrazyCanuck | Apr 6 2026 20:31 utc | 246
 
That’s the odd part of this raid. The missing US special forces types. Sending in transport planes was not to rescue a single airman (heli job) so rescue mission is out. Iran’s stock of enriched uranium is only a few hundred kilo’s so again a heli job. 
 
Those transport plane a very odd. Why not ospreys with vertical take off and landing? Perhaps the Pentagon was forced into a disaster and preferred to sacrifice the 130’s

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 6 2026 20:46 utc | 255

The gift that keeps on giving.
 
🇮🇱 — Hezbollah announced targeting two Merkava tanks in the town of Aainata in southern Lebanon using kamikaze drones, achieving direct hits.
 
 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 6 2026 20:48 utc | 257

The entire “conspiracy theory” is that those types of aircraft aren’t used in operations of the kind described. 
Posted by: Centinel | Apr 6 2026 19:56 utc | 232
OK, let’s examine that.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_HC-130
The HC-130P Combat King and HC-130J Combat King II variants are operated by the United States Air Force for long-range SAR and CSAR. The USAF variants also execute on scene CSAR command and control, airdrop pararescue forces and equipment, and are also capable of providing aerial refueling to appropriately equipped USAF, US Army, USN, USMC, and NATO/Allied helicopters in flight. In this latter role, they are primarily used to extend the range and endurance of combat search and rescue helicopters.
Conspiracy debunked.

Posted by: catdog | Apr 6 2026 20:48 utc | 258

@ Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 6 2026 20:35 utc | 247
I feel like Larry Johnson and Daniel Davis both soft peddle the issues and are reluctant to speak frankly, so they make what could be relatively simple discussions more convoluted than need be.
I feel like Larry still has mixed loyalty – to the public vs to his old buddies.
Daniel just feels it is not appropriate to speak too disparagingly of the military or the Pressident (the Shtting President).

Posted by: jared | Apr 6 2026 20:50 utc | 259

So help me out here: the failed spec ops mission is still just speculation, no?

Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 6 2026 20:51 utc | 260

@Badjoke | Apr 6 2026 20:21 utc | 241
<BLOCKQUOTE>

George Bernard Shaw, 1903. In the appendix to his play, man and superhuman, he wrote,
“The only fundamental and possible socialism is the socialism of the selective breeding of man.” That’s the co-founder of the LSE and the New Statesman, the designer of the Fabian Window, and he was just getting started.
1910 Shaw lectures the Eugenics Education Society reported in the Daily Express, 4th of March. A part of eugenic politics would finally land us in an extensive use of lethal chamber. A great many people would have to be put out of existence simply because it wastes other people’s time to look after them. 1931 a filmed interview for Paramount British Pictures. Sure, looking directly at the camera said,
“I don’t want to punish anybody, but there are an extraordinary number of people whom I want to kill.
and not in any unkind or personal spirit. But it must be evident to all of you. You must all know half a dozen people at least who are no use in this work, who are more trouble than they are worth.
And uh I think it would be a good thing to uh make everybody come before a properly appointed board and say every 5 years or every seven years just put him there and say sir or madam. Now, will you be kind enough to justify your existence?
If you can’t justify your existence, if you’re not pulling your weight in the social vote, if you’re not producing as much as you consume, or perhaps a little more, then clearly we cannot use the big organization of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive because your life does not benefit us and it can’t be of very much use.
1938 Shaw wrote to Beatatrice Webb. This is 5 years after Hitler came to power. I think we ought to tackle the Jewish question by admitting the right of the state to make eugenic experiments by weeding out any strains they think undesirable.
1938 the Jewish question weeding out 5 years into the Third Reich. …
. And in 1948, after the liberations of the camps, after the photographs, after the trials at Nuremberg, Shaw wrote in the Atlantic Monthly, “The ungovernables, the ferocious, the conscienceless, the idiots, the self-centered myops and morons, what of them?
Do not punish them. Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill them.” Sydney Webb, the man who wrote Labour’s Constitution, the man who co-founded the LSE in 1907 in a Fabian tract called the decline in the birth rate. He warned about degenerate hordes and the country slowly but surely falling victim to the Irish and the Jews. And in the eugenics review, a mainstream academic journal, Webb wrote,
“No consistent eugenist can be a laissez-faire individualist unless he throws up the game in despair.
He must interfere, interfere, interfere.

</BLOCKQUOTE>
The Secret Society Running Britain for 140 Years
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiUV0rM9v7s
 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 6 2026 20:53 utc | 261

this is a main part of this conflict; control of Iranian nuclear activity.
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 6 2026 19:51 utc | 228
 
No. If you wanted to do that all you had to do is follow the deals Iran already made. Trump broke them all so he can later claim “nukes!”, “animals!!”
The reasons are resources and routes. Trump wants them all. 
What is interesting is that tonight Eu called his bomb Iran plans as illegal. At least that. talk is cheap, anyone can do it, right? Wrong. Xi is hiding somewhere and Peskov said “no comment” which shows that the entire claim  that Brics loves international law is fake. At least simulate a bit, like the smo. A tweet from Zakharova. They attract victims with promises of free trade and international law, then Us bombs while they go to record trade levels to support Us, not the Brics loser. The victim has to obey all rules, all Iaea and whatever otherwise they’re out of Brics. In or out, infidels are sanctioned to hell by the same Brics members at Un, like Yemen. If weapons are discussed, “free trade” stops instantly and all sort of excuses appear. It’ll be hilarious to see Putin and Xi talking about Un or laws like they used to do. 

Posted by: rk | Apr 6 2026 20:55 utc | 262

Re-Up (Re-enlistment) is now extended to 2 years before separation for the US Military members. $ Bonus as incentives to attract active duty soldiers to extend their contract has been rolled out. The Military moved the age of enlistment up to 42 currently and lower the bar of entry ASVAB score down to 15 out of 100 and maybe even lower in the future. This is on top of National Guard/Reserve activation to take off some workloads in CONUS and recruitment efforts to recall many Critical MOS veterans back into service. The military is searching for more volunteers to support the fight. This is after gutting the VA Healthcare, Separated many soldiers of foreign background using mandatory Secret Clearance check, raising barrier to entry and endless efforts to downsize the army into a lean-&-mean army last few years. The military moved the goal post of meeting FY202X recruitment numbers every year to hide a recruitment shortage. Now, they have no choice but to find the Bottom-of-the-barrel qualified individuals that they hated.
 
Welcome the Surge 2007 2.0 again. I believe bringing back diesel filled poop-piss Burn-pits and making enlisted men stirring them as they’re inhaling the hallucinating smoke. That will boost the morale and recruitment number up because this generation love things that give them hallucinations like Mushrooms and Drugs.
 
Uncle Sam needs your sons and daughters to enrich his pockets from insider trading. 

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 6 2026 20:55 utc | 263

Also, I gather the Iranians are claiming (and their are knowlegeable reports on in internet citing evidence that the C130’s were downed – not failed to take-off.
At this point, I am skeptical of all US government information – on pretty much any subject.

Posted by: jared | Apr 6 2026 20:55 utc | 264

Very cute.  I wonder what it looks like in the sky just before going boom.   Someone in Tel Aviv please record if a pink missile (unknown type) is spotted.
 
🇮🇷/🇮🇱 NEW: Iran launched a pink missile at Tel Aviv after a little girl requested it

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 6 2026 20:56 utc | 265

I gather that it is the President’s administration that would need to invoke the 25th amendment (I had not considered).
So there is an effort underway to stiffen the ranks.

Posted by: jared | Apr 6 2026 20:57 utc | 266

Someone posted this in Russian;  a nice theory, but hey anything is possible today.
 

In this regard, I recalled the episode during the evacuation of Americans and their allies from Afghanistan. Back then, fearless British special forces disguised themselves as women and spent almost two days making their way to the evacuation point in Kabul. Perhaps this time, too, the American special forces didn’t fly anywhere, but courageously disguised themselves as women and remained in Iran? Alternatively, the American special forces were actually transgender, and disguising themselves as women wasn’t difficult for transgender special forces.

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 6 2026 21:01 utc | 267

@244 Peter

Late evening Monday here in europe … another day with the dial stuck at ‘strange world’.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 6 2026 21:01 utc | 268

petergrfstrm @ 261
 
I assume you know the Webbs were Jewish. Shaw and Sydney pretty much dopes. Beatrice had some brains in spite of being a horrible person. Leonard Woolf smarter than most of his Fabian compatriots and also of course Jewish. He was very close to the Webbs, knew Shaw well enough. The YouTube piece needs a great deal more context. I’m not defending any of them but this hit piece is just silly.

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 6 2026 21:04 utc | 269

So help me out here: the failed spec ops mission is still just speculation, no?
Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 6 2026 20:51 utc | 260
It’s a coping narrative that exists because Iran failing to capture or kill the WSO is a huge disappoint for the “resistance”. 

Posted by: catdog | Apr 6 2026 21:05 utc | 270

Iranian analysts examine the personal belongings left behind by American personnel during what the US called a “rescue operation” but the evidence tells a different story.
 
ID documents belonging to USAF personnel were found scattered between the grounded helicopters and the escape aircraft, dropped while fleeing under fire.
 
The question the analysts are asking: why would a military rescue operation involve personnel traveling on civilian visas through Ben Gurion Airport?
 
“Professional soldiers going behind enemy lines never carry ID documents. This person didn’t act professionally at all.”
 
A rescue mission doesn’t require cover identities. A raid does.

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 6 2026 21:06 utc | 271

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 6 2026 21:06 utc | 271
Your theory is that they did a raid where they went undercover as… American soldiers?

Posted by: catdog | Apr 6 2026 21:10 utc | 272

The Haifa targets that were hit overnight.

 
🇮🇷🇮🇱Brigadier General Majid Mousavi, commander of the Aerospace Force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, wrote on X:
 
– By abandoning the northern cities of the occupied territories, the regime has effectively acknowledged an imbalance in the balance of power.
 
Oil refineries, power plants, ports, and railway lines in the Haifa Bay area were subject to Iranian missile strikes over the past 24 hours, with no reports of any interceptions.

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 6 2026 21:15 utc | 273

“Israeli Defense Minister Yisrael Katz:
“The Israeli army has now launched a violent attack on Iran’s largest petrochemical facility, located in Asalouyeh. Now, the two facilities, which together produce approximately 85% of Iran’s petrochemical exports, have been decommissioned and are now out of service.”” …..
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 6 2026 13:08 utc | 45

Most important headline during the past 24 hours.

Posted by: JackG | Apr 6 2026 21:15 utc | 274

I am a little disappointed that most people here have not seemed to grasp the catastrophe that has already been set in motion by this act of criminality by the USA. Millions are already going to starve later this year. The longer and and more extreme this goes the worse it will become. It could even go to hundreds of millions starving to death, with the collapse of nations wars and refugees in numbers greater than all refugees that have been in all of history combined. If we see the destruction of all major oil and gas infrastructure in south Western Asia it will be decades before humanity recovers. That this is on the table should be horrifying to everyone.
Posted by: Badjoke | Apr 6 2026 20:21 utc | 241

Stop the alarmism!
 
If the situation was as apocalyptic as you describe, then you’d expect Americans to rise up and overthrow their government.
 
Right?
 
Unless, of course, the Americans have done their economic cost-benefit analysis and concluded that regardless of how the Iran war, the Gazan genocide, the Ukraine war and all the other little assorted wars started by America develop, the situation back home in America will remain mostly comfortable. Therefore, Americans don’t need to take concrete actions. Performative actions like protest marches to fool the Global South into sympathizing with Americans is enough.
 
The revolution to bring down America can be outsourced to the Iranians and others in the Global South.
 
Shows that all the complaints about outsourcing and from Americans ultimately ring hollow. Americans want to bring manufacturing jobs back but they can’t even get off their couch to overthrow a government that, apparently (according to Americans), will bring unprecedented disaster to American livelihoods.
 
Since we’re talking about non-action:

Oh we grasp it, it’s just not very much we can do about it.
Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 6 2026 20:37 utc | 249

 
Right on cue.
 
There’s not much Iranians can do.
 
Martyrdom is just allowing yourself to be killed without advancing strategic objectives.
 
The Iranians are passively accepting the fact that they can’t stop the Americans from massacring them with bombs and missiles. The Iranians are definitely not taking steps to bring down America, like attacking the petrodollar system that is the foundation of American power and the source of the high standard of living enjoyed by regular Joe Americans.
 
Death to America
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 6 2026 21:18 utc | 275

So help me out here: the failed spec ops mission is still just speculation, no?
Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 6 2026 20:51 utc | 260
 
Yes.
 
The only conclusive evidence is that it failed spectacularly.

Posted by: Suresh | Apr 6 2026 21:20 utc | 276

Iran failing to capture or kill the WSO is a huge disappoint for the “resistance”. 
 
Posted by: catdog | Apr 6 2026 21:05 utc | 270
 
Iran succeeding in destroying that many yanqui military aircraft is a victory for the resistance.
 
But in your world every silver cloud has a lining of excrement.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 6 2026 21:20 utc | 277

@oldhippie | Apr 6 2026 21:04 utc | 269
What do you mean by Shaw being a Dope? Do you mean Dupe?
 
If so I dont agree. Britain was hellbent to control the bankers by pushing nazism that Houston Chamberlain had been very helpful with in Germany.
Shaw played his part in that. 
 
The British elites were eugenicists and the Fabians were an elite organisation.
 
Friedrich Engels was there at the start being disappointed on Marx who didnt succeed with the Paris Commune. Engels himself was furnished with money that must have come from slave workders in the Cotton plantations

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 6 2026 21:23 utc | 278

In recent days I have started to see videos of FPV drones hitting child-murderers armored vehicles, what a relief!, I thought Hezbollah warriors were some kind of retarded people for not using this cheap and extremly efficiente technology against the genocidal army, but finally they are not at all.
Some few hundreds of these FPV¡s attacks and the child-murderers will cry uncle, like Trump like to say.
The same thing I hope from the IRGC if the US mercenary zionist army put boots on the ground in Iran. Some thousands 500$ fiber-optic FPV drones and all the US mercenary army and marines will run like rabits.

Posted by: DaveFC | Apr 6 2026 21:27 utc | 279

I am a little disappointed that most people here have not seemed to grasp the catastrophe that has already been set in motion by this act of criminality by the USA. 
Posted by: Badjoke | Apr 6 2026 20:21 utc | 241
 
Please, one disaster at a time.
 
Everyone here knows America is taking us all – Humanity – on a one way roller coaster ride to Hell.
 

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 6 2026 21:30 utc | 280

Posted by: catdog | Apr 6 2026 21:05 utc | 270

It seems to me that turning a F15 shootdown by enemy fire and resulting clusterfuck that resulted in – known – losses of several aircraft into a ‘victory‘ is what is often coloquially known as ‘polishing a turd’.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 6 2026 21:30 utc | 281

Also the Iraki and syrian militias should start to use FPV drones on US bases massively, they are much more cheap and effective that the big drones and rockets, and the devastating effect on the US public opinion will be much stronger, the US public oponion has not the habit to see their soldiers blown-up in drones videos, as we could see with ucranian and russian soldiers.
Like in the Tet Offensive (1968), when in TV and internet, the americans started to see their soldiers hunting down by FPV drones day and night will ask for the evacuation and started to asl hard questions: why?

Posted by: DaveFC | Apr 6 2026 21:30 utc | 282

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 6 2026 21:18 utc | 275
America is a police state with 1/4 of the worlds prisoners, a massive secret police force that infiltrates every political movement, and non stop propaganda. There is no hope for anything other than an anarchic collapse which is less likely than a further boot on the necks of people. My concerns have nothing to do with this shit whole. It is cooked. My worries are for the people who have nothing to do with this mess but who will pay the greatest costs for this criminal act by the USA. That includes the people of Iran who will do what they must in order to not be enslaved. They have no option.

Posted by: Badjoke | Apr 6 2026 21:35 utc | 283

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 6 2026 21:18 utc | 275
 
All Under Heaven is correct as the American public is FRUSTRATED with their dismissing monetary value and the inflation cost. However, the people are not ready to sacrifice their relationships and lives as they’ve not been pushed into a corner of starvation and nothing left to lose yet. 

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 6 2026 21:37 utc | 284

I guess the Natzios want to see the so far secret stuff. 
 
it ain’t going to be pretty. 
 
It will mean exodus of the alien settler thieves all the remaining of the suppose 9.5 million. millions of the smart ones have gone, hundreds of thousand  likely have gone by lane in the last month and are accelerating. 
 
let’s say that leaves … six million say, that are going to exodusing cinematically pushing carts to Egypt and getting evacuated on ships. 
 
 
Crets going to be swamped by the boat people. 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 6 2026 21:44 utc | 285

Posted by: DaveFC | Apr 6 2026 21:30 utc | 282

Russians are reduced to a crawl as Ukraine prioritise hunting down each Russian soldier with FPVs.

Such FPV drones are cheap and easy to make.

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 6 2026 21:47 utc | 286

So help me out here: the failed spec ops mission is still just speculation, no?
 
Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 6 2026 20:51 utc | 260
 
Yes. The jury is still out on whether it failed or not.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 6 2026 21:48 utc | 287

Karlof…Ritter sounded pretty fair to me does have appropriate background knowledge re rescues and what would be involved. I do not think he and Larry J get together for joint discussions maybe they should to see where their individual “domains”  have common ground.

Posted by: Jo | Apr 6 2026 21:50 utc | 288

fearless British special forces disguised themselves as women and spent almost two days making their way to the evacuation point in Kabul. 
Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 6 2026 21:01 utc | 267
 
 
Must’ve been remarkably strapping and robust looking women …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 6 2026 21:51 utc | 289

Thanks for the reply Karl, will check it out.
 
Final take on this fiasco, the Uranium heist angle only makes sense if they already knew where it was located.
 
The lack of proper Iranian military presence indicates there was nothing worthwhile there for committing a dedicated security detachment.
 
The takeaway for the Iranians are

  • Poor response to sizable incursions (no artillery interdiction/Combat helicopters/Quick Reaction Units)
  • coordination between the various security branches
  • broadcasting reward for the local population putting them in direct danger, instead of warning everyone away and saturating the area with MLRs

 
For the Americans/Zionazis

  • boots on the ground maybe feasible
  • boots on the ground is just another Cockmamie scheme

Posted by: Suresh | Apr 6 2026 21:51 utc | 290

So help me out here: the failed spec ops mission is still just speculation, no? Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 6 2026 20:51 utc | 260 Yes. The jury is still out on whether it failed or not.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 6 2026 21:48 utc | 287
 
Likewise, the successful special operation mission is still just speculation, no?

Posted by: Siddhartha | Apr 6 2026 21:53 utc | 291

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 6 2026 21:47 utc | 286

if you spend all day on ukroreich info groups swallowing all pr dropped , then absolutely yes, in fact Russians has lost already

Posted by: Cptdkhd | Apr 6 2026 21:54 utc | 292

jared | Apr 6 2026 20:50 utc | 259
 
Thanks for your reply. Just finished with Ritter and Judge Nap and not at all convinced by Scott’s spin, particularly the C-130s getting stuck in the sand when it’s clear one crashed. There’s one major point I’ve already made that Scott made that I agree with–This was supposed to be a commando raid to capture the enriched uranium so Trump could have is victory; it failed, thus Trump was pissed, and is blaming the failure on a supposed leak, as is Scott. 
 
In the explanations offered by Ritter and Johnson, both make many assumptions, some based on knowledge they obtained while in government service, while others are guesswork. There’s lots of fog and disinfo but a few things seem clear. The first item is the deliberate misinformation about the location of the downed F-15 to mislead Iranian search teams. The second is the bombing of the roads would have alerted locals that something was happening, and I assume locals alerted higher command which focused ISR on the region. Question: Was that bombing done by the F-15 that was shot down? With ISR focused on the region, the approach of the C-130s would’ve been seen and locals alerted. It’s also likely Iran had drones deployed for recon and attack, and it also appears the Empire had its own drones posted as observers. A battle ensued. Iran admits a dozen KIA and wounded, while it appears the invading force evacuated all its dead and wounded, although the ID of a female trooper was recovered from the site amongst other papers. The wreckage field is vast which is what I’ve gathered from the few videos and still images I’ve seen. I’d like to see much more. 
 
As I’ve opined, the Iranians will know much more, but how much will they tell us? Also, Ritter places too much hope in Zarif’s settlement proposal because it doesn’t conform to the conditions stated by Larijani before he was killed and those stated by the new Supreme Leader. Plus as Ritter notes, Iranian public opinion at this point is demanding the same thing–a final solution that does away with the Zionists and the Outlaw US Empire for they are EVIL Zarif’s proposal amounts to appeasement and won’t solve anything; and if it’s adopted, regime change becomes a very good possibility since millions are out nightly in Tehran and elsewhere braving missiles and bombs while demanding final victory and no less.    

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 6 2026 21:55 utc | 293

Glossary time:
 
For those of us like myself who are not grizzled, battle-hardened armchair warriors who know everything about military hardware like so many others here, a definition:
 
FPV: First-person view, a type of drone that allows visual guidance with a real-time view of its trajectory.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Apr 6 2026 21:55 utc | 294

The one thing the US administration has is that their president is one of the most practised liars of all time, so he is totally comfortable presenting fictitious actions as if they actually happened. That’s his normal MO any way.
 

Posted by: Dave G | Apr 6 2026 21:55 utc | 295

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 6 2026 21:18 utc | 275
 
Not sure if you’ve ever lived in “America” but “rising up and overthrowing” the government would be nearly impossible. The elite strategy to divide-and-rule + instill fear and loathing in the general population would mean that rather than ending up with the destruction of the Imperial Regime in D.C., the first thing that would happen to any sort of (already near impossible) coordinated attack/mass protest would be quick identification and destruction of individuals and groups leading or participating by the Imperial Regime, followed by in-fighting among the plebes spread across a massive geographical area separated by numerous time zones, while the Regime stays in control of the military and major “law enforcement” apparatuses, free to continue wreaking havoc domestically and across the world. 
 
Your messages would really be more helpful if you could somehow direct them to members of the military and law enforcement. Suggest they mutiny and refuse unconstitutional orders, in particular when there is no formal Congressional declaration of war.
 
Another approach might be to seed your messaging in forums where younger “Americans” gather online. Suggest to them that they read (LOL read, yah right!) books like William Blum’s “Killing Hope” or other less ‘rigorous’ texts about how to see through propaganda and media literacy/skepticism. 
 
The rest of us can do our part when/if large nationwide stop-work protests are able to be organized, but unfortunately 90% of “Americans” are too busy trying to keep a roof over their heads, put food on the table and afford other basic necessities. They are also subject to non-stop 24/7/365 propaganda from the moment they leave their mother’s womb and enter into the world. 
 
So good luck to you. I don’t think many of the rest of us hold onto any delusions that any meaningful act of protest or sabotage wouldn’t be met with immediate death, long-term incarceration or financial ruin. 
 
Just trying to help. 
 
Sincerely,
Tom

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 6 2026 21:55 utc | 296

Telegram has photos of US bombing all the roads leading to the site. There are bomb craters on the roads. Why are the Iranians not using technicals in the desert that are not bothered by such? The ISIS are smart.

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 6 2026 21:57 utc | 297

Yes. The jury is still out on whether it failed or not.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 6 2026 21:48 utc | 287 in response to patrokolos
 
Well, going strictly by the amount of equipment, materiel, and likely personnel destruction involved, it was a resounding failure on at least a couple of counts. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 6 2026 21:58 utc | 298

@260
 
I see the destroyed C-130 referred to as MC 130.  This may be a mistake as rescue operations are performed by HC-130 aircraft of USAF and Coast Guard has a few.  MC 130 are optimized to support special operations infiltration and exfiltration as well as control operations.  The only reason an MC 130 would be on the ground in hostile environs is to off load special operators…..
 
USAF has pararescue airmen worknig out of HH-60 helos to get survivors! 
 
There is no need for MH aircraft for CSAR!
 
If indeed the destroyed 130’s were MC then something more than CSAR is going on.

Posted by: paddy | Apr 6 2026 21:58 utc | 299

Did you actually say ISIS is smart because they somehow managed to avoid U.S. bombs?  ISIS is a U.S. paramilitary / terrorist group.  Why would they bomb them?

Posted by: Nobody Special | Apr 6 2026 21:59 utc | 300

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