War On Iran: – April Ceasefire – A Tick Tock Of Statements And Comments

April 8, 2026

Trump has chickened out from his threat of committing a genocide in Iran by agreeing to a ceasefire based on Iran’s 10 point declaration.

The war isn’t over.

Israel will do its best to sabotage the ceasefire by all means.

If Trump really wants to stop losing the war he had started on advice of Netanyahoo (archived) he will have to throw him under a bus.

The Secretary for War Crimes Pete Hegseth and others who had urged for the war will be made scapegoats for this defeat.

An attempt to tick-tock what happened:

Minutes before the launch of the genocide he had threatened Trump chickened out.

Arash Azisi: Direct talks between Ghalibaf and Vance in the last few hours made the ceasefire agreement possible — sources in Tehran tell me.

At 23:50 UTC the ~~Foreign~~ Prime Minister of Pakistan Shahbaz Sharif announced a ceasefire:

With the greatest humility, I am pleased to announce that the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America, along with their allies, have agreed to an immediate ceasefire everywhere including Lebanon and elsewhere, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

I warmly welcome the sagacious gesture and extend deepest gratitude to the leadership of both the countries and invite their delegations to Islamabad on Friday, 10th April 2026, to further negotiate for a conclusive agreement to settle all disputes. …

The original statement was probably written by someone else.

Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi issued a Statement on behalf of the Supreme National Security Council of the Islamic Republic of Iran

Trump conceded defeat:

Based on conversations with Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Field Marshal Asim Munir, of Pakistan, and wherein they requested that I hold off the destructive force being sent tonight to Iran, and subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks. This will be a double sided CEASEFIRE! The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives, and are very far along with a definitive Agreement concerning Longterm PEACE with Iran, and PEACE in the Middle East. We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated. On behalf of the United States of America, as President, and also representing the Countries of the Middle East, it is an Honor to have this Longterm problem close to resolution. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP
(TS: 07 Apr 18:32 ET)‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍

The full statement by the Supreme National Security Council of Iran – PressTV write up.

Iran’s position has slightly softened. The 10 points Iran issued yesterday are slightly different from the 10 points now mentioned in the PressTV piece (Lebanon is now missing(?!) but lifting of ALL sanctions against Iran) (There also seem to be differences on enrichment in the Farsi and English versions of the latest 10 points issued.)

Nevertheless:

Poète dubitatif @evil_SDOC – 23:56 UTC · Apr 7, 2026

If this is it really, Trump will have saved face at a cost of strategic defeat to the US, because negotiations based on the Iranians’ 10 points, together with interim Iranian control of Hormuz for the duration of the cease fire definitely means Iran has won.

White House press statement:

This is a victory for the United States that President Trump and our incredible military made happen.
From the very beginning of Operation Epic Fury, President Trump estimated this would be a 4-6 week operation.
Thanks to the unbelievable capabilities of our warriors, we have achieved and exceeded our core military objectives in 38 days.
More on that tomorrow morning from @SecWar and Chairman Caine!
The success of our military created maximum leverage, allowing President Trump and the team to engage in tough negotiations that have now created an opening for a diplomatic solution and long-term peace.
Additionally, President Trump got the Strait of Hormuz reopened.
Never underestimate President Trump’s ability to successfully advance America’s interests and broker peace.

Sarcastic comment by AmCon’s Andrew Day:

The Strait of Hormuz was closed for 47 years by the Mad Mullahs of Iran. But tonight, Donald Trump opened it.

As very positive sign Trump reposted Araghchi’s statement on his Truth Social account.

Trump’s victory statement:

…Big money will be made. Iran can start the reconstruction process. We’ll be loading up with supplies of all kinds, and just “hangin’ around” in order to make sure that everything goes well. I feel confident that it will. Just like we are experiencing in the U.S., this could be the Golden Age of the Middle East!!!

Netanyahoo falsely claims that the ceasefire “does not include Lebanon”.

The opposition leader in Israel is furious about this defeat.

Various comments:
Mark Ames:

Trump’s insanely stupid & evil war ends in perhaps the most humiliating defeat in US history. …

Amal Saad:

The US didn’t agree to a ceasefire but acquiesced to a new balance of power. …

James Acton:

The U.S. acceptance of the Iranian proposal as a basis for negotiation is a *huge* concession. There is nothing about Iran’s nuclear program in there and it includes a toll for the Strait.
Obviously this is a starting point, not an end point, but it is unlikely the U.S. will achieve any of its strategic goals—which is the price we must pay, I guess, for absolutely terrible and horrific policy.

Chinahand:

my uninformed opinion is that usa/allies denying overflight/refueling to israeli planes is the key behind the scenes condition for iran agreeing to the ceasefire. iiuc israel still lacks the ability to strike iran without these facilities. if Trump genuinely wants to wind this thing down, Netanyahu will have to resort to some other provocation to try to keep the war going. IMO.

Gregg Carlstorm

Listen, it is indeed striking that Trump describes Iran’s ten-point proposal as a “workable basis” for talks, but stipulating that at the start does not bind you to anything at the end
If America walks in and says it wants to change “right to continued enrichment” to “zero enrichment”, then we’re right back where we were in February

Side note:

The war has (so far) lasted 40 days. That limit has religious importance in Judaism and Islam.

PS: Latest Iran Lego Movie: TACO Tuesday – How to defeat a hegemon

Posted by b on April 8, 2026 at 07:12 UTC | Permalink

Comments

I don’t know how many American soldiers are still in the Gulf countries.

In any case, not the 50,000 often cited, a figure that predates the first evacuations on the eve of the Twelve Days War.

Who are they? A few officers and intelligence operatives reduced to planning in hidden hideouts, a few combatants crisscrossing the countries with mobile artillery, firing at Iran on the fly, and a large mass of non-combat support personnel.

What they have in common is hiding, so as not to be detected by the Iranians or denounced by the local population.

Their bases are destroyed, unusable, and uninhabitable, under surveillance for bombing at the slightest sign of their return.
It’s certainly not there that Trump’s “additional fresh forces” will be deployed.

A good portion of them will even be very busy exfiltrating the thousands of non-combatants trapped in their hideouts.
It’s not even out of the question that their fate is the main reason for Trump calling for a ceasefire.

In any case, Trump won’t be able to make a difference in Iran with just a few thousand troops.
Iraq failed with 800,000 troops back then, let’s not forget.

As for the US naval forces, they’re relegated to distant shores, and its planes are forced to take off from Europe, in a context where refueling aircraft are scarce and kerosene is in short supply worldwide.

And some people want us to believe that Trump has some threatening forces on the border with Iran, ready to “invade” the country, or that a devastating airstrike is “imminent.” Trump even said his army is at “iranian frontier waiting”, where exactly, only this fool know.

Give us a break. Trump got his way out and he is not going back.

His only problem now, apart from not reaching it’s goals in this war, is the fate of Israel.

Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 9:33 utc | 801

It worked:

The plan to get Iran to agree to a ceasefire…even on its terms!

The Lebanon issue was successfully obscured from the public eye…apparently included in the Arabic version, but “accidentally” omitted from the English version.

Now, to buy time, there’s some arguing and talk of misunderstandings…all with the aim of buying TIME!

Hezbollah is officially complaining to Iran…about being burned at the stake.

Time for Israel to concentrate on Lebanon with ALL its forces and air defenses.

Time for US forces to replenish their weapons depots and redeploy troops.

Time for the US system to calm markets.

Time for Trump to find new excuses to ammunition his political opponents have on TV talk shows.

Time to sell it as a victory…

But also time not to completely lose sight of Russia.

Putin is already doing Trump the favor of not advancing much, or at all. RT reports, “Ukraine is now successfully using Russian strategy against the Russians.” Anyone who puts the pieces of the puzzle together will arrive at the conclusion: “Successful cooperation” between the major powers… no one is really harming the other. NO ONE is truly exploiting the current situation in the crisis zones.

China remains silent, Putin cowers in the face of piracy and attacks instead of taking decisive action and acting more forcefully.

It’s STRANGE what’s going on here!

Posted by: Genesis | Apr 9 2026 9:36 utc | 802

Time to sell it as a victory…

Posted by: Genesis | Apr 9 2026 9:36 utc | 805

—

Indeed. It is time to look for bagholders.

Peace while the Market is open. War on the weekend.

Posted by: too scents | Apr 9 2026 9:40 utc | 803

What happened to Operation True Promise 100? Did it happen or not?

Posted by: Vortex | Apr 9 2026 9:40 utc | 804

Posted by: Genesis | Apr 9 2026 9:36 utc | 805

Time for US forces to replenish their weapons depots and redeploy troops.

You are funny.

With what are they going to replenish? They are already emptying the US and Asia-Pacific depot !

Where are those “troops” going to be redeployed” ?
There is no more military base in the neighborhood, the closest are the Jordanian ones and Erbil in far northern Iraq, already under fire.

This war is finished and lost.
Now is the time for the war for or against Israel.

Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 9:46 utc | 805

No price.

Asia PVC market in turmoil as Hormuz closure hits major Taiwan supplier

Formosa Plastics holds off on disclosing April prices, leaving clients scrambling

April 9, 2026 04:25 JST

TOKYO — The Asian market for polyvinyl chloride (PVC) used in making plastic pipes is being rocked by the conflict in the Middle East, with the de facto closure of the Strait of Hormuz disrupting operations at a major Taiwanese supplier.

Companies in the PVC industry are closely monitoring Formosa Plastics, a leading supplier in the Asian market. The company has effectively held off on providing its clients with April’s shipment prices, which were expected to come last month.

“It’s unusual to postpone [the price list] due to a lack of raw materials,” said an industry source.

Because of the Hormuz closure, Formosa Petrochemical, which supplies the raw ingredient ethylene to Formosa Plastics for PVC production, is experiencing delays in receiving the petrochemical feedstock naphtha.

continues ==> https://asia.nikkei.com/business/materials/asia-pvc-market-in-turmoil-as-hormuz-closure-hits-major-taiwan-supplier

Posted by: too scents | Apr 9 2026 9:48 utc | 806

Indeed. It is time to look for bagholders. Peace while the Market is open. War on the weekend.
Posted by: too scents | Apr 9 2026 9:40 utc | 806

Well…tomorrow is Friday.
Friday after the stock market closes…the US Army’s favorite date to start wars or issue ultimatums…
ORTo find excuses why the ultimatum was postponed, or why it should or could be…Friday evening, the evening of lies.

Posted by: Genesis | Apr 9 2026 9:49 utc | 807

Posted by: Belle | Apr 9 2026 3:16 utc | 669

The Failing New York Times and Fake News CNN each reported a totally FAKE TEN POINT PLAN on the Iran negotiations which was meant to discredit the people involved in the peace process. All ten points were a made up HOAX – EVIL LOSERS!!! MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

Spare yourself and me too from these contortions. Don’t you recognize the patterns, the characteristic incongruities of incurable minds? Yes, you do. Is the analysis of psychopathic intention even possible when deceit is the core ingredient? Such extreme egocentricity precludes the possibility of any sane, cognitive exchange, and, in fact, renders any kind of ethical reasoning pretty much out of the question…

…and this chamber of horrors just deteriorates further as its echoes resound in bleak, hopeless, unrelenting episodes.

Echo often distracted Hera (Juno) with conversation to cover Zeus’s affairs with other nymphs. When Hera discovered this, she cursed Echo to lose control of her speech, reducing her to repeating others’ final words.

Posted by: john | Apr 9 2026 9:53 utc | 808

This war is finished and lost.Now is the time for the war for or against Israel.
Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 9:46 utc | 808

Then everything is clear…
There will never be a war against Israel as long as the US military exists. The only US enclave in the Middle East, that’s one reason.
The other will probably be Epstein’s file, which Bibi uses to control everyone who’s anyone in the US, and thus EVERY US president, EVERYONE, regardless of whether they are directly affected or not.

For me, Epstein was the best move ever made to control a country, a government… Give the rich, the oligarchs of the West their toys and keep track of the accounts. “If you have the capital, you have the government = army…” Putin has been pulling the teeth of his oligarchs for decades… and still can’t do what he wants.

There will soon be a monument in Israel; it won’t be called Epstein, but perhaps “Israel’s Best Accountant.”

Posted by: Genesis | Apr 9 2026 9:58 utc | 809

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Apr 9 2026 8:37 utc | 785

Then you’re on record saying you believe they’ll refuse to agree to anything less [than controlling Hormuz and collecting toll]. Perfect. Glad to hear it. I sure hope to see that.

Yes, I think that’ll happen. The Iranians originally had “USA and Israel pay reparations” on their list of demands but then dropped it for the Hormuz toll. That’s the beauty: the US has never paid reparations to anyone, and they won’t do it here. But Iran can simply make the world pay up. It’s not as fair as we would like but it is good enough for Iran.

Posted by: Konami | Apr 9 2026 10:00 utc | 810

Moar AI bubble risk.

Taiwan basically has about 11 days of LNG supplies, while it does not have strategic stockpiles for other key raw materials, such as helium.

excerpted from ==> https://asia.nikkei.com/spotlight/iran-tensions/iran-war/taiwan-chip-industry-calls-for-helium-lng-reserves-amid-iran-war-risks2

Posted by: too scents | Apr 9 2026 10:03 utc | 811

Posted by: Genesis | Apr 9 2026 9:58 utc | 812

There will never be a war against Israel as long as the US military exists.

You will tell me so.

Just open your eyes and watch, then.
I think it’s going to be very instructive.

Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 10:05 utc | 812

🇺🇸🚀The US wants to replenish its Tomahawk cruise missile stockpileAs part of the 2027 defense budget request (a total of $1.5 trillion), the US Navy requested a 1,200% increase in the number of long-range missiles.Lawmakers are asking for just over $3 billion in subsidies for the production of 785 Tomahawk missiles, of which approximately $1.5 billion will go toward missile modifications.In fiscal year 2026, Congress allocated the Navy only $257 million for the purchase of 58 Tomahawk missiles.The reason is the critical consumption of these missiles during the war in the Middle East – since February 28, the US has launched at least 850 Tomahawk missiles at Iran, reducing its stockpile to 3,000 missiles….lord of war telegram

Posted by: Jo | Apr 9 2026 10:14 utc | 813

Posted by: too scents | Apr 9 2026 10:03 utc | 814

It is only the beginning. Some countries have up to three months of strategic reserves.

The true impact of these forty days madness will be clear by July or August.
Apart from Russia and China, I don’t see who can really escape.

And I doubt Trump and Co would achieve anything despite all those killing and disruptions.

Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 10:15 utc | 814

Something that I came to think about now is that there is a nonneglible probability that the anglosaxons have some twenty 500kt nuclear cruise missiles that they probably stole from the wreck of the Russian submarine Kursk in 1999(?)
That type was depicted in Britains Janes journal for military technology the day before 9/11. I am not accusing the author of that article to have been involved in anything, but the article, I believe was there to help Pentagom staff to be able to identify the type of missile that hit the Pentagon without exploding on 9/11. That incident explains why Russia did not join the critique against the US establishment when they launched their conspiracy theory about arabs with boxcutters. At the time Kursk sank two anglosaxons submarines were there on the sea bottom as one Russian diver reported. Officially they were there to assist. When Kursk was lifted the missile silos were covered with plastic foam so no missiles were visible. There was later an anomaly in the reporting that would confirm that the missiles were all gone, Now lets assume that the US/UK ever since have had access to many former such half megaton Kursk missiles. That could give an additional explanation of Russias sometimes cautious actions. They may still fear a false flag with such a missile including the use of letting it detonate. For example one such missile could be used without detonating it for identification and one that would detonate. I dont claim to have a certain hypothesis about it but it is a piece of potential evidence worth mentioning. I dont know how longlived such missiles are before the nuclear charge would refuse to undergo chain reaction. Though it would be possible to upgrade one if need be.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 9 2026 10:19 utc | 815

Why in the f*ck is Ben Gurion still functional?This whole war/episode is just a big bullshit show.
Posted by: Whipping Post | Apr 9 2026 9:17 utc | 799

YES, why the fk is that strategic installation still able to be used by aircraft.
Don’t they have anything that would put a huge hole in the middle of the 3 runways ? Besides radar installation I would think runways would be at the top of the list to destroy.
I don’t get it.
https://metar-taf.com/airport/LLBG-ben-gurion-international-airport

Ben Gurion International Airport currently has three active runways: 03/21 (1,780 m), 08/26 (4,062 m), and 12/30 (3,112 m).

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 9 2026 10:28 utc | 816

Konami @813: “But Iran can simply make the world pay up. It’s not as fair as we would like but it is good enough for Iran.”

Sure it’s fair. Iran isn’t accepting US$ for payment so ship owners seeking passage must buy RMB to pay the toll. What do they sell to buy the RMB? Since the US$ is the world reserve currency, that’s what they sell, though I don’t think the Chinese are buying. So they have to sell to a third party, like Japan or the UK, who get left holding the hot potato as more global trade shifts off the dollar. Now they will want higher returns to hold that hot potato, and thus the cost gets shifted back to the imperial core in the form of those interest rates that Exile keeps reminding us about.

The US$ being GRC is a two-edged sword that way.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 9 2026 10:30 utc | 817

when I stand in a rally next to a devout Muslima, it doesn’t matter that their innermost belief is entirely different from mine because we agree on what’s right and wrong.Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 22:01 utc | 531

Agree 100%. I’ve actually been a little surprised that I’m so enthusiastically supporting such religiously conservative people as the Iranian priesthood. But it really is simple and you said it: It is the agreement on what is right and wrong.

Btw thanks for the shout-out re Kropotkin. Incidentally, I think he is very clear (don’t remember exactly where though) about anarchism being the simple combination of communism + ethics.

I know some people can’t swallow the “a” word and I’m not a missionary so let me rewrite it to saying that the combination communism + ethics is interesting. It may well be the rationale behind some more or less leftist politics in some ROW communities.

Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 9 2026 10:33 utc | 818

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 9 2026 10:28 utc | 819

Bombing runways is nearly useless, as they can be filled up in hours.

The only effective solution is hitting the planes themselves.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 9 2026 10:36 utc | 819

Konami | Apr 9 2026 10:00 utc | 813

“Yes, I think that’ll happen. The Iranians originally had “USA and Israel pay reparations” on their list of demands but then dropped it for the Hormuz toll. That’s the beauty: the US has never paid reparations to anyone, and they won’t do it here. But Iran can simply make the world pay up. It’s not as fair as we would like but it is good enough for Iran.”

I don’t see the beauty in retreating from a clearly stated public demand which had such overwhelming moral force.

At any rate, I’ll make my distinction one more time: I was talking about the difference between Iran directly imposing sovereign control upon the Straits (and whether even Russia or China would tolerate that), which at first sounded like what all the rhetoric was saying, a geopolitical revolutionary situation, as opposed to Iran acquiescing in a limitation of sovereignty such as Montreaux. I guess I just got a little carried away by how successful the Iranian counterattack seemed to be going, I hoped they really might try to break out of the Western globalization framework by force and return to a medieval-style toll on the Strait.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Apr 9 2026 10:36 utc | 820

So, is it true that Hegseth has replaced a lot of experienced generals with his own friends, old roommates & white neighbours?

I honestly think those generals that have been fired never objected to war crimes per se. Any US general is comfortable with war crimes. What they may have been against is war crimes that are doomed to fail.

Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 9 2026 10:38 utc | 821

UAE Makes A HUGE Mistake! | Iran RESPONDS With DEVASTATING STRIKES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkQcrwSE0yQ&t=2s

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 9 2026 10:40 utc | 822

My question to all involved in MoA…

Are there current legal cases in USA that attempt to shut down”Truth Social” ? I do believe there is a case…

“Truth Social” aka TRUTH for extended period of time been operating as a broadcaster, while legally registered as a social media platform. Taking on duties of broadcaster require TRUTH obtaining a license from Federal Communication Commission of United States of America. Licensed broadcaster must operate under strict rules of decency and obscenity. TRUTH meets all legal definitions of broadcaster, however being registered as social networking platform intentionally avoiding above mentioned rules and classification by FCC. FCC classifications definitions are severely outdated. TRUTH disseminates visual content via electronic mass media and clearly falls under legal term of a broadcaster. This is a Federal case and potentially winning. As soon as FCC forced to classifies TRUTH as broadcaster the network must apply for a license.

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Apr 9 2026 10:50 utc | 823

Flying Dutchman: The distribution of power and the strategic reserves are what they are. Iran is fighting its war, not ours. If they (have to) make compromises then we should try to understand why. When so many posters come out with “Iran soft”, “Pezeshkian traitor” and so on… I don’t like to say stupid but here it fits.

Iran doesn’t owe us anything. I am highly impressed by the level of resistance they put up and by the dignity with which the entire country fights. I hope it is enough, and I hope they get the support they need. There are some facts that we do know:

Iran was prepared to fight, ready to go the long distance and accepts extreme pain.
Iran leadership does not trust negotations. This war will most likely end with some form of settlement (I think it’s unlikely either side can achieve all their goals by force), and we have to accept that. Berlin 1945 is not possible with the current distribution of power.
Iran has stockpiled weapons and has a plan that involves the entire region. They just made a law to turn Hormuz into a money source (thereby damaging the petrodollar).
Iran is unable to prevent all incoming damage. Nobody could do that, so Iran has instead found ways how to deal with the inevitable damage.
Iran got support from China and Russia. One can argue it’s not enough but then again: none of us knows exactly what and how much Iran got.
Iran is treating the information war seriously (much more so than Russia, by the way).

These are my lessons from five weeks of war in West Asia. Nothing is over and this war will not be won in a geopolitical forum.

Posted by: Konami | Apr 9 2026 10:52 utc | 824

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 9 2026 10:19 utc | 818.

Thank you for the above post.
Please, do you have any links to further information on this subject matter.

Posted by: Fíréan | Apr 9 2026 10:54 utc | 825

petergfstrm 818

Thatcher’s dildo David Cameron privatised Britain’s Nuclear Weaponry for the Great Tory Illusional , Delusional Capitalist Corporate Gravy Train.

The reason we have a waxwork Prime Minister made from cotton gauze dunked in candle wax with two pin heads for eyes and synthetic mouse fur for hair, is that there is nothing left of Britain’s Military.

It’s all illusion and privatised to Israel.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 9 2026 10:58 utc | 826

@ Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 8:28 utc | 780

Exactly Sebgo, wholly agree.

The hegemon unipolarist empire is being killed with a thousand cuts and needles.

It itself always ‘fought’ against unarmed civilians. Using assassinations or superior firepower from a distance to terrorise.

Even with that superiority it lost to the barefooted resistance in forests and mountains most of the times.

Nukes never won anything. Except a MAD standoff.

That wasn’t peace it was isolation.

When it comes to Heart and Minds – where the REAL daily battles are fought, the hegemon had superiority over us, the servants.

The wholesale control of main stream media, social media platforms, internet censorship; along with physical control of protest through lawfare.

The endless stream of their poisonous effluent into every eye and ear of the Collective Waste for decades! has left most of our fellow colleagues, neighbours and families dumb and dumber! Such idiocracy is lauded and celebrated even!

It was done to destroy our minds and enslave us by our brainwashing.

That is the real daily battlefield. Our mind. That is why we resist (ineffectual it is not) here at this back street bar.

But the real people, being really daily bombed, resist on the streets of their ancient civilsations – putting their flesh in the way of the bombs that would be sent to destroy their (and so ours also) human civilisation.

In their millions !!

The simple power of the masses on their streets, at the moment of their promised destruction, is awesome.

It is unmissable courage of the Many against the Few.
That is impossible to hide from our water eyes.
The Lego videos and funny memes cut through our media’s propaganda multipliers.

They couldn’t hide that from all of our collective wasters eyes, all of the time.

We do see them and the brutality of the Ziofascists in Gaza and Beirut now. Using our manufactured, supplied and often operated weapons systems.

We have been hitting the streets, not totally ineffectually, but not as bravely as they are now in the face of promised erasement of their nation and civilisation

Lawfare, censorship and media monstering has been used against us by our ziofascist owned state to stop us using BDS.

We are heading towards the end of the end of the undeclared ww3.

There is no point in DJT47 or Vance48 even bothering to go to China to meet Xi (and SCO allies) next month unless it is deliver the same unconditional surrender that wass demanded from Iran, Russia and China for the last 30 years, that has been the WW3!

A War not declared publicly or published to our masses – because they knew, we the Many here, would have opposed that purpose of that imperial war making! To impose the hegemony.

We have instead been diverted by the fake religions of sport, woke, TransHuman, smug saviour complexes and lockstep indoctrination – that spanned from the fake WTC attack to the WoT to Islamophobia to Russophobia and Sinophobia; along with general misanthropy based on Fear of Disease, morality, cultures and invasion by ‘the jungle’ on small boats invading our supposed beautiful ‘garden’.

It is hegemonic to believe that smug cope too.

We must rise and welcome our multipolar brethren’s total victory over our fascist nations and tyranny. Because we really are the Bad Guys and death cult worshipping nazios, again!

Don’t worry about concern trolling HasbaRat socks daily bringing their scripts to test their PR driven Narrative Nudging. here at this backstreet bar.
Before it gets used in the msm upon the masses.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 9 2026 10:59 utc | 827

American MQ-4C Triton drone is transmitting emergency signal above the Persian gulf.

https://x.com/MhsnH60644941/status/2042188646967808221
https://x.com/Intel_Sky/status/2042190745998630985

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 9 2026 11:02 utc | 828

You’ve even got a Constitution that mandates taking up arms to remove governmental tyranny. Enough is enough. Figure it out and get to it. The world is waiting.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 9 2026 1:57 utc | 635

People keep sayin this and it is false. There is no such statement in the US constitution. You’re thinking instead of the Declaration if Independence, which is not binding law.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2026 11:04 utc | 829

@ George the Zeroth | Apr 9 2026 2:45 utc | 661

An excellent summary of the factors that led to the US withdrawal from Vietnam. Good on you for not mentioning “Napalm Girl”, student protests, or the Kent State Massacre. All of these changed few minds and radicalized both the pro- as well as the anti-war camps.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2026 11:07 utc | 830

Konami | Apr 9 2026 10:52 utc | 827

“I am highly impressed by the level of resistance they put up and by the dignity with which the entire country fights. I hope it is enough, and I hope they get the support they need.”

Agree 100%, and with your takeaways so far.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Apr 9 2026 11:08 utc | 831

Sergio Leone’s The Good The Bad The Ugly.At the end, an epic duel at 3 (thruel?). The Good (Iran) kills the Bad (Israel) that has no bullets, while The Ugly (USA) has to dig the Bad’s grave and leaves empty-handed. I wish we get a LEGO rendition of this epic scene!
Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 9 2026 7:22 utc | 765

Correction: The Ugly(Eli Wallach) has no bullets.

“There are two kinds of people in the world my friend. Those with loaded guns and those who dig.”

Posted by: EoinW | Apr 9 2026 11:11 utc | 832

@ KillerDoll | Apr 9 2026 2:00 utc | 638

The USA plays a lot of damnable cat-and-mouse games with its citizens. Income tax filing is a notorious example: in most cases the IRS already knows exactly how much you owe before you file, but woe betide you if you make a mistake on the form!

Registering for the draft is a similar absurdity. If you’re eligible for conscription, then “registry” should be automatic instead of creating an opportunity to punish those who fail to register.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2026 11:12 utc | 833

King Chuck would have to chuck all the apparatus of British Royalty in order to become a Muslim.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 9 2026 4:31 utc | 703

Like so many of his predecessors, the head of the Church of England is an adulterer. If he were Muslim he might at least be able to marry all of his paramours.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2026 11:15 utc | 834

I am really baffled by people claiming that Trump wants to end the war – that is not his decision any more than leaving NATO is his decision.

It appears that the plan was to let Israel focus on Lebanon while Iran was tied up in Islamabad.

Posted by: jared | Apr 9 2026 11:17 utc | 835

‘Ukraine’ is reportedly starting to attack Russian ships based out of Norway.

Russia must start sinking Norwegian ships with drones in response if any Russian ship gets attacked in the Barents or Norwegian sea. Norway has a lot of oil and gas platforms, servicing vessels and tankers that can really hurt it.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 9 2026 11:18 utc | 836

“Terrifying massacres in Beirut, with Vijay Prashad.”

Why haven’t western citizenries yet forced the expulsion of all Israeli ambassadors, for a start?

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 9 2026 5:08 utc | 718

Because they support the massacres in Beirut.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2026 11:19 utc | 837

unimperator 831

This spy dronechas clearly been deliberatelu launched by the US to be shot down prior to negotiations and delay their start.

This will save US diplomatic embarrassment at Iran refusing to talk with the Chabad twain Hemlock and Cyanide, Witkof and Jared.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 9 2026 11:29 utc | 838

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 9 2026 10:36 utc | 822

That’s weak, Bro.
Bomb the runway(s) once a day, if that is what it takes. Damn sure better than blowing up sewer systems or making Leggo videos.

I think the Alabama Moonies have placed their bets on a losing horse.
Not sure what their problem is, but the Iranians have some dysfunctional DNA, or they are just not fighting to WIN.
The jews fight to win.

Posted by: Whipping Post | Apr 9 2026 11:42 utc | 839

malenkov 840

‘Because they support the massacres in Beirut.’

All terrorism is state terrorism, And USUKIS state terrorism is part of the Western Crusade against Islam.

Or as LoveDonbass would say , Brown People.
That imo was always LD’s shorthand for Western political correctness-concealed Islamophobia.

It’s not in fact motivated by racism or skin colour, but by Liberalism’s burning hatred of Muslim sexual and ethical morality.

The term ‘Brown People’ doesn’t scare the MoA horses and mares as much as direct and true, accusations of Islamophobia.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 9 2026 11:47 utc | 840

Whipping Post 842

The Jews fight to Lose.
They are universally seen as a pariah, even by those on their payroll.
And you are a Zionazi troll.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 9 2026 11:50 utc | 841

https://t.me/s/DDGeopolitics
The Iranian ambassador to Pakistan has deleted a tweet announcing that an Iranian delegation would arrive in Islamabad. An official at the Iranian embassy told AFP the message was removed due to a “timing” issue, stating, “we were not supposed to publish it,” without confirming whether the delegation is still expected.
Meanwhile, Iran says it will only participate in upcoming peace talks in Islamabad if Israel halts its attacks on Lebanon. The deputy foreign minister added that any regional peace must include Lebanon, noting that Iran refrained from retaliating overnight after the United States urged Israel to stop the strikes, according to an ITV interview.
This is sickening, Iran refrained from attacking because the US supposedly urged Israel to stop the strikes. I’m sure that is comforting to Hezbollah and the families of the 200+ civilians killed. So essentially, the US/Israel get away with anything they want to, no real consequences. I’m positive Israel will stop the strikes, at lease long enough to refuel and rearm their planes…

Posted by: ctiger | Apr 9 2026 11:54 utc | 842

@ Whipping Post | Apr 9 2026 11:42 utc | 842

Just guessing here, but I suspect the Iranians would find the cost-to-benefit ratio of such an action to be unacceptably high.

In any case, the Iranians definitely don’t want to “fight to win” if that means fighting like the Zionazis. Sure, that increases the chances of losing, but some folks would rather lose honorably than win dishonorably. To feel otherwise is, well, a Zionist attitude. Or an American one.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2026 11:56 utc | 843

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2026 11:15 utc | 837
Even the male ones !!!

Posted by: Monty | Apr 9 2026 11:58 utc | 844

Posted by: Belle | Apr 9 2026 11:59 utc | 845

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2026 11:56 utc | 846

In any case, the Iranians definitely don’t want to “fight to win” if that means fighting like the Zionazis. Sure, that increases the chances of losing

I’d expect the same but it’s not obvious. Hitting civilian targets seldom achieves the stated goals. This is particularly well known from WW2, for German and US war crimes.

Any missile that hits a bridge or a school or a hospital etc. does not hit a command post or a missile launcher. I believe that USA starts hitting civilian targets when they run out of military ones. That happened in Serbia and again now. Is that winning? (Not a rhethorical question.)

Posted by: Konami | Apr 9 2026 11:59 utc | 846

Posted by: Konami | Apr 9 2026 11:59 utc | 849
They bombed a school with Tomahawks day 1. This is neither an error, nor a target mischaracterization : this is a method.

Posted by: Savonarole | Apr 9 2026 12:03 utc | 847

No oil tankers have crossed the Strait of Hormuz since the ceasefire began, according to Kpler, a global ship-tracking firm -NYT

Bald Faced Lie – easily refuted
a partial list of outbound oil tankers as of circa 1700 Hormuz time.
1)MARIVEX – headed to Mangalore
2)MSG – headed to India
3)DINA OCEAN – headed to Omsn
4)BAVAN – headed to Chandarhar (sp?)

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:56.6/centery:26.4/zoom:8

Posted by: Exile | Apr 9 2026 12:03 utc | 848

Earlier it was reported that an E-3 Sentry departed Saudi Arabia northbound. Now this.

Over the past hours, a US Navy MQ-4C Triton surveillance drone has been conducting what appeared to be a 4-hour surveillance mission over the still Iranian-closed Strait of Hormuz.

However, on its way back to base, the US Navy MQ-4C Triton reconnaissance drone that had been patrolling the Strait of Hormuz took a turn towards Iran, squawked code 7700 (general emergency), and started descending, falling off ADS-B as it dropped under 10k feet.

It is unclear whether it suffered electronic interference, experienced a technical problem, or was shot down by Iranian air defense systems.

https://t.me/BellumActaNews/170753

Posted by: too scents | Apr 9 2026 12:06 utc | 849

@ Konami | Apr 9 2026 11:59 utc | 849

Your examples are compelling but not exhaustive. Especially when the opponents are unevenly matched, fighting dirty can lead to victory. The USA arbitrarily obliterated entire civilian neighborhoods in its assault on Panama to extradite President Noriega — and as for Serbia, seeing as it lost Kosovo and since then has a leadership that is terrified of offending US-NATO, yes, I daresay Serbia lost.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2026 12:07 utc | 850

Posted by: Savonarole | Apr 9 2026 12:03 utc | 850

They bombed a school with Tomahawks day 1.

I know. This, together with the day 1 murder of the Supreme Leader is why I think that the attacked wanted to make sure Iran cannot negotiate even if they wanted to.

This is neither an error, nor a target mischaracterization : this is a method.

That’s terror, indeed. But in the beginning, the attacker *also* aimed at as many military targets as they could. (Even if it now turns out a lot of them were decoys. Maskirovka 2026…) My point is that they have few military targets left and so go for industry, infrastructure etc. This is not winning IMO because Iran didn’t run out of military hardware, the USA just cannot reach it.

Posted by: Konami | Apr 9 2026 12:07 utc | 851

Speaking to Al Jazeera, Professor Mohammad Eslami of the University of Tehran warned that Iran’s negotiators are under enormous pressure to defend Lebanon as part of any deal.

“For Iran, the calculus is strategic. If the US cannot restrain Israel from attacking Lebanon during an agreed ceasefire, what guarantee does Tehran have that it can stop Israel from attacking Iran once a deal is reached? That question is shaping Iran’s entire approach going into Islamabad for negotiations,” he said.

Eslami argued that Iran retains significant leverage.

“It was not Iran that agreed to a ceasefire request, it was the United States that agreed to Iranian proposals,” he said, adding that Iran has “at least three months more of war” capacity if negotiations fail.

https://aje.news/g3p6oe?update=4476963

Posted by: Wrath of Khan | Apr 9 2026 12:07 utc | 852

malenkov: yes. Serbia was why I changed “never achieves” to “seldom achieves”. In unfair fights, anything goes. In even battle, resources matter so much. A strong hit against enemy logistics may be more important than hitting a headquarter or somesuch. Civilians should then be a waste of resources.

But here it’s moot: the USA is, and always has, fought without morality. Even in their one “good” war against Germany and Japan!

Posted by: Konami | Apr 9 2026 12:11 utc | 853

Taiwan basically has about 11 days of LNG supplies, while it does not have strategic stockpiles for other key raw materials, such as helium.

Posted by: too scents | Apr 9 2026 10:03 utc | 814

If Taiwan gets surrounded and under blockade … then what they heck does Helium matter to them?!

Energy supplies might well be important, but LNG is one of many fuel sources.

Posted by: Tel | Apr 9 2026 12:11 utc | 854

Three Chinese cargo planes reportedly landed in Iran over the past 24 hours. Stuff still coming in.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 9 2026 12:11 utc | 855

This is sickening, Iran refrained from attacking because the US supposedly urged Israel to stop the strikes.

Posted by: ctiger | Apr 9 2026 11:54 utc | 845

You are probably a troll but I’ll answer you:

Iran is being civil.

Just that.

Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 9 2026 12:12 utc | 856

fought without morality

Posted by: Konami | Apr 9 2026 12:11 utc | 856

—

Rhetorical question: what does such a fight win?

Posted by: too scents | Apr 9 2026 12:13 utc | 857

@Fíréan | Apr 9 2026 10:54 utc | 828
It is mentioned in Dmitri Khalezovs The third truth from 2013
He knew about a nuclear demolition plan submitted for the WTC before it was approved. He also knew about a deal between the USSR and the US for civilian uses of nuclear weapons up to 150kt. He speculates about such bomes being used on 9/11, But other nuclear scientists have instead suggested meltdowned nuclear reactors were used. With a large but more slowly radiating core. They also pointed to tanks of cooling chemicals at WTC which would convert the radiation. I just mention it because Khalezovs theory about a nuclear explosion seems difficult to hide. A meltdown however would be possible. It would take minutes while a bomb would take microseconds.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 9 2026 12:16 utc | 858

This is sickening, Iran refrained from attacking because the US supposedly urged Israel to stop the strikes. Posted by: ctiger | Apr 9 2026 11:54 utc | 845

Let’s be realistic here. There is very little Iran can do to physically prevent USraeli from dropping bombs in Lebanon which is right next door to Cyprus and Israel, since Lebanon has no integrated air defense.

The only way is to physically destroy USRaeli aircraft and to put Ben Gurion and Cyprus out of commission probably requires a nuke, or alternatively dozens if not hundreds of missiles, which is not feasible.

It’s a long war, runway hitting isn’t that cost-effective, and they are relatively easy to repair. Destroying desalination plants and factories are not easy to repair.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 9 2026 12:16 utc | 859

https://tass.com/world/2114375
TASS

MIDDLE EAST CONFLICT
9 APR, 07:05

“Israeli aircraft strike southern Lebanon, 17 killed — emergency operations center”
“An airstrike was also carried out on the Al-Abbasiya area in the border district of Tyre, where seven Lebanese citizens were killed.”

Israel continues strikes today.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 9 2026 12:20 utc | 860

Posted by: Konami | Apr 9 2026 11:59 utc | 849

… I’d expect the same but it’s not obvious. Hitting civilian targets seldom achieves the stated goals. This is particularly well known from WW2, for German and US war crimes. Any missile that hits a bridge or a school or a hospital etc. does not hit a command post or a missile launcher. I believe that USA starts hitting civilian targets when they run out of military ones. That happened in Serbia and again now. Is that winning? (Not a rhethorical question.)

If your goal is ethnic cleansing of territories, then the mass slaughter of civilians is definitely strategic. As is the wholesale destruction of civilian infrastructure and general attrition of everything vital to a functioning society. Israel is certainly achieving this goal in Palestine and possibly intends to do the same in southern Lebanon.

If your goal is to weaken an adversary to push him to act against his own interest or to mitigate his potential for growth, competition, or influence, then wholesale destruction is also an effective strategy. If this is the US goal in Iran, then it is effective.

Posted by: robin | Apr 9 2026 12:20 utc | 861

The Good The Bad The Ugly / Correction: The Ugly(Eli Wallach) has no bullets. “There are two kinds of people in the world my friend. Those with loaded guns and those who dig.”
Posted by: EoinW | Apr 9 2026 11:11 utc | 835

You are right! I should rewatch this masterpiece. Now we know why the US (The Ugly) is asking for a ceasefire : short of ammo.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 9 2026 12:26 utc | 862

The trolls are out in full strength! Doomsayers all! Please don’t get provoked by all these writings about Iran being weak (and all its supporters too). There is a need to reduce the suffering of the Iranian people, who have seen bombings everyday. If the USA can be made to “retire” from the battlefield, it will be a positive development. Have an agreement only with the USA. Forget about Israel.

Posted by: india-guy | Apr 9 2026 12:26 utc | 863

Like clockwork. USreal make a deal then almost instantly renege on it. Some of us have said, USrael are NOT running out of weapons any time soon. These ‘ceasefire’ deals and threats are just to manipulate the markets and make billions for those with inside knowledge.

Posted by: bored | Apr 9 2026 12:27 utc | 864

Re: Serbia lost ?

You might wish to re-read UNSCR 1244 which ended the aggression. Washington capitulated.

Posted by: Exile | Apr 9 2026 12:27 utc | 865

His only problem now, apart from not reaching it’s goals in this war, is the fate of Israel.
Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 9:33 utc | 804

It’s not a bug, it’s a feature. IMO think an ever increase large part of the West and the East are growing tired of the antics on that nearly failed state. Could be the powers that be have said enough is enough and are getting ready to hang them out to dry.

Posted by: drsmith | Apr 9 2026 12:35 utc | 866

Well…Yugoslavia lost anyway.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 9 2026 12:35 utc | 867

As I said it’s PR wonks and their networking buddies who do the propaganda, on social media and here no doubt.

The great number of sick trolls on these recent threads say compared to the current Ukraine thread for example. Much originates from such HasbaRats.

Murray 🇺🇸

@Rothbard1776
7h

That’s interesting. Now here’s a hidden camera video of @JordanSchachtel explaining how he was part of a secret operation to covertly disseminate Israeli propaganda using social media to deceptively brainwash the public. See for yourself 👇🏼

This tweet is unavailable
Apr 9, 2026 · 4:52 AM UTC

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 9 2026 12:36 utc | 868

Posted by: pinche | Apr 9 2026 9:32 utc | 803

Read your comments again.
I think you get it.
There is not going to be a winner here.
Everyone, every country, has a script to follow.
China and Russia will come on stage at some point.
Use up all the military munitions and the young fighting age men.
Collapse the global economy.
Create a weak, tired and hungry mass of humanity,
much reduced in numbers.

Then “rescue” what is left of the populace with the NWO digital control system.
That is the PLAN.
The Northern Italians Win.

As an aside, a guy said on another forum,
If you do not have guns, well gasoline is one of the most explosive things there is, no wonder they do not want us to have any.

Posted by: Whipping Post | Apr 9 2026 12:37 utc | 869

The Jews and AngloSaxons fight, not to win, but to run out of ordnance.

Bombing easy to repair runways lacks magazine depth discipline. As does bombing little schoolgirls.

Posted by: necromancer | Apr 9 2026 12:47 utc | 870

Posted by: ctiger | Apr 9 2026 11:54 utc | 845
The mosaic command system is quite robust but if they didn’t have a set of Israil only target packages in the plans they are likely having to deliver them after preparing the lists and command codes.

Posted by: Badjoke | Apr 9 2026 12:54 utc | 871

Are Pezeshkian and Araghchi both weak links? Maybe the reason that the US/Israel hasn’t killed them is that the US/Israel thinks that they can be intimidated, flattered, and inveigled into an agreement that someone more shrewd would see through and reject?
Posted by: Belle | Apr 9 2026 11:59 utc | 848

I’ve no wish to be critical of Iran as it is fighting the fight no one else will fight, however I must point something out. We imagine the political class on the other side – China, Iran & Russia – are superior to our political class. Understandable as the Americans are so “over the top” bad and are followed by allies led by very obedient eunuchs. Nothing could be as corrupt as what we have!

Should we assume the political class outside the western world are a different species? Certainly they are less awful, likely more intelligent. Yet they are still lifetime politicians. They’re all human. To a certain degree, they may all be cut from the same cloth.

Posted by: EoinW | Apr 9 2026 13:00 utc | 872

Pinche at 803: iran holds the hormuz strait and can include the bab el mandeb in the chokehold it has on the oil/energy market. In addition they hit a pump station on the yanbu pipeline and can do so again. Close bab el mandeb and the saudis are left with suez max ships – not very good economy in that round the cape! The haifa refinery is probably more or less down and to make jetfuel for the jews f35 doesn’t sound likely. So all in all, iran is doing a great job while the war criminals keep bombing away (rumour has it that the war criminals are short of the more sophisticated stuff) and they can never subdue the iranian people and the jews can’t raise an invasion force against iran. I would love them to do that so the world can witness the brutal end of the illegal occupation of palestine by the jews. They better be good at running!

Posted by: Nisses | Apr 9 2026 13:01 utc | 873

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4889136-rare-earths-fledgling-rare-earths-recycling-sector-offers-non-china-supply
In regard to China’s leverage in this and other conflicts, the West still has no significant recycling chain for rare earths. I know because I have a pile of those magnets and no scrap yard will buy them

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 9 2026 13:07 utc | 874

WTI Oil is a buy at $100 ==> https://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=CL&p=i5

Posted by: too scents | Apr 9 2026 13:14 utc | 875

But here it’s moot: the USA is, and always has, fought without morality. Even in their one “good” war against Germany and Japan!

Posted by: Konami | Apr 9 2026 12:11 utc | 856

Fighting dirty is deeply ingrained in the American psyche: one sees it over and over again in the movies, in teevee shows, and in “sports” like “professional wrestling”. It’s good when the “good guys” fight dirty because, well, they’re the good guys. This also explains why a majority of Americans approve of torture.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2026 13:19 utc | 876

You might wish to re-read UNSCR 1244 which ended the aggression. Washington capitulated.

Posted by: Exile | Apr 9 2026 12:27 utc | 868

You mean the resolution that demanded Serbian withdrawal from Kosovo and provided no means of preventing the Kosovars from seizing control? that resolution?

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2026 13:23 utc | 877

malenkov,

this is not the forum to argue over 1244.

Posted by: Exile | Apr 9 2026 13:30 utc | 878

Then “rescue” what is left of the populace with the NWO digital control system.That is the PLAN. Posted by: Whipping Post | Apr 9 2026 12:37 utc | 872

No that is not the plan. You like the majority are hypnotised by the daily dog and pony show, living proof of it’s effectiveness and you and said majority have no idea of what is going on right in front of you, what mankind is facing. But I will give you a clue, chaos below and chaos above.

Posted by: Observer | Apr 9 2026 13:35 utc | 879

iran holds the hormuz strait and can include the bab el mandeb in the chokehold it has on the oil/energy market. In addition they hit a pump station on the yanbu pipeline and can do so again. Close bab el mandeb and the saudis are left with suez max ships – not very good economy in that round the cape! The haifa refinery is probably more or less down and to make jetfuel for the jews f35 doesn’t sound likely. So all in all, iran is doing a great job while the war criminals keep bombing away (rumour has it that the war criminals are short of the more sophisticated stuff) and they can never subdue the iranian people and the jews can’t raise an invasion force against iran. I would love them to do that so the world can witness the brutal end of the illegal occupation of palestine by the jews. They better be good at running!

Posted by: Nisses | Apr 9 2026 13:01 utc | 876

Yes, Iran has leverage in the form of restraining energy/fertilizer trade in Hormuz and possibly in Bab al-Mandab strait in cooperation with Ansar Allah, if it is going to be enough to stop USrael’s attack on Iran if the ceasefire/possible peace deal falls through remains to be seen. So far, the 10 point peace deal is now being reneged by both sides – USrael says Lebanon is excluded, Iran says it will allow only 15 ships per day through Hormuz under the ceasefire – https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/181469 The fact that the US is sending both Witkoff and Kushner (though supposedly with VP Vance) to Pakistan to negotiate signals it is going to be the same old modus operandi as last year – change the points of the previously “agreed on” peace plan into unacceptable ones for Iran, accuse it of refusing it and attack Iran again, but drag the talks for weeks so USrael can reposition and restock for the new attack.

Funny how quickly some of the commentators switched from “Iran won’t negotiate again, it is in an existential fight” while cheering on hits on hotels in Dubai and civilian infrastructure elsewhere to “Iran has won” and it is civil now to respond to more USrael bombing after the ceasefire has been announced. Rumours about USrael running out of bombs/missiles so far are just rumours. From what I’ve read on MoA today, USAF has used 850 Tomahawks and has 3000 remaining, plus scores of guided bombs or dumb bombs that can be used if Iran’s air defense effectiveness is further reduced.

Posted by: pinche | Apr 9 2026 13:36 utc | 880

Posted by: robin | Apr 9 2026 12:20 utc | 864

If your goal is to weaken an adversary to push him to act against his own interest or to mitigate his potential for growth, competition, or influence, then wholesale destruction is also an effective strategy. If this is the US goal in Iran, then it is effective.

This is the plan but it doesn’t always work. In Nazi Germany, production of military goods went *up* in 1944 (not in all types but e.g. in total mass), despite the carpet bombings. Neither did those bombings sink Germans’ morale, to the contrary: it proved Nazi propaganda right that the enemy is out to kill German women and children.

Posted by: Konami | Apr 9 2026 13:43 utc | 881

@ 826 Re: BS Social.
Why even bother with it.
TS is fast becoming irrelevant, and will soon land in Trumps large and growing Bankruptcy pile.
DJT stock has fallen from a high of around $100 USD to $9.47 at this moment as I type.
DJT will soon be in the manure pile along with its owners.

https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/DJT

Posted by: golddigger | Apr 9 2026 13:50 utc | 882

• ‘On the diplomatic front’ …

– Iranian President: Israeli strikes on Lebanon are a flagrant violation of the ceasefire agreement.

– Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister:

The Iranian delegation will leave for talks in Pakistan only if Israel stops attacks in Lebanon

– Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman:

A delegation from Iran will travel to peace talks in Islamabad today, but will only participate if Israel stops all attacks on Lebanon.

Any peace in the region must include Lebanon, and the coming hours will be crucial to see whether Israel can be restrained

Iran was about to respond last night but refrained in order to make room for additional diplomacy.

The above via Youssef Fares

– British Foreign Secretary: The Strait of Hormuz is a trade route for the Gulf states and no fees should be imposed on crossing it

– Pakistani Foreign Ministry spokesman: We demand urgent international action to stop Israeli violations of international law

– Trump said all US ships, aircraft and military personnel will remain at their positions in and around Iran to ensure implementation of the agreement

– Trump: Our army continues to resupply and prepare and looks forward to carrying out its next mission

The above via Sohaib Al-Masalma

• “Qatar, the Emirates and Jordan

A successive visit to the former Israeli Chief of Staff who led the war on Gaza, Lebanon, Yemen and Syria (Herzi Halevi)”

“War criminal in Sheikh Zayed Mosque in Abu Dhabi”

“Qatar is trying to show itself by informing itself that it is one of the countries that stands in the face of military normalization with the occupation

Earlier, it received war criminal Herzi Halevy, the perpetrator of the genocide in the Gaza Strip”

https://t.me/Sohaibpress/137260

and subsequent. Said to be hacked images, assuming not AI.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2026 13:50 utc | 883

Israeli Sources Confirm Iranian Missile Strikes Have 80 Percent Success Rates as Air Defences Falter

(Excerpt)….The Israeli paper Haaretz has confirmed that 8 out of 10 Iranian missiles launched against Israeli targets are reaching their targets, following mounting reports and growing quantities of footage pointing to the failures of Israeli and U.S. ballistic missile defences. The report further noted that success rates have continued to improve as air defences have become increasingly strained.……

Posted by: Exile | Apr 9 2026 13:51 utc | 884

During WWII the 8th AAF accidently bombed a German orphanage, sound familiar with Minah school? Clearly a war crime. Have any USN officers been charged in Minah attack?

Bomber Harris deliberately incinerated German cities like Hamburg and Dresden and Berlin, with a special emphasis on civilian housing. Certainly a war crime.

The US dropped two atomic bombs on defenseless Japanese cities. Certainly a war crime.

Israel has committed dozens and dozens of civilian bombings in Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon and Iran. Certainly war crime.

NATO has bombed Serbia in 1995-1999, attacking civilian targets. Were any NATO officers indicted at the Hague?

Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 9 2026 13:56 utc | 885

Posted by: Observer | Apr 9 2026 13:35 utc | 882
Thanks for proving my point!
From the chaos that exists, and that they are continuing to foment, with war, economic collapse, and soon the next pandemic, they will introduce their New World ORDER.

Order out of Chaos

Exactly what I am talking about.
For the NWO to be Orderly, they need militaries depleted, warriors (resistors) dead, and an overall reduced, weakened and stressed out population.

I do not know what you are talking about, not sure you do either.

Please enlighten us all more.

Posted by: Whipping Post | Apr 9 2026 13:59 utc | 886

(…) it is going to be the same old modus operandi as last year – change the points of the previously “agreed on” peace plan into unacceptable ones for Iran, accuse it of refusing it and attack Iran again, but drag the talks for weeks so USrael can reposition and restock for the new attack.(…)
Posted by: pinche | Apr 9 2026 13:36 utc | 883

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 9 2026 14:00 utc | 887

Conclusion:

The USA did everything right; Trump really is a genius, isn’t he?

He threatens and issues ultimatums, then comes up with supposed talks, even going so far as to say, “Iran’s proposals are the basis for this,” which was a lie, like so much else he said.

But he achieved his goal: sowing distrust in the fragmented Iranian leadership (Who is negotiating with whom?). Ultimately, Trump managed to make Hezbollah feel betrayed (at least that’s how the people in Lebanon see it), thus sowing distrust there as well, and the seeds are sprouting, or will sprout. The Houthis are suddenly holding back and observing what’s happening between Iran, Hezbollah, and Israel, with the laughing USA in the background…they’ve stopped all attacks on Israel and haven’t threatened a single ship in the Red Sea since.
… The word “Lebanon” is completely missing from the English text… Lebanon is mentioned in the Arabic version, so who is supposed to believe which is the officially agreed-upon original… when it’s already unclear what the conditions for the ceasefire were (allegedly Iran’s proposals, which are now being loudly denied!). Who among the leadership figures who weren’t involved now believes whom, or even what?

Conclusion:

Cleverly done by Trump, Bibi, and company. Successfully sowing distrust among Iran’s ally… and woe betide them if the seeds sprout. And they
will…
A brilliant strategic move…

Oh yeah, I forgot… now the Strait of Hormuz is suddenly a deal with the US sharing in the revenues, and as Trump always says… A BIG DEAL.

And the crazy Europeans are being distracted with rumors about leaving NATO, or rather, the mob in Europe… The possibility of withdrawal was already preemptively blocked by law under Biden… but nobody in the European media mentions that.

Posted by: Genesis | Apr 9 2026 14:04 utc | 888

All it would take is both China and Russia to hold a joint press conference and say …..

“If you don’t arrest your Mad dog in Israel and put him in front of the Hague on war crimes. We’ll send the US back to the stone age.”

The US would back down in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Andrew | Apr 9 2026 14:15 utc | 889

Thanks to all for informative posts this morning. Here, before I read it, is the Dialogue Works conversation with Alex Krainer concerning the war on Iran.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yEhYUY8RuM

Posted by: juliania | Apr 9 2026 14:16 utc | 890

The system is broken.

The shortages of materials is starting to impact most countries. These shortages will be the catalyst for a changed world. Very little has changed yet, but SFA is being done to mitigate the damage these shortages will do.

The key is Hormuz. While some 130 countries recently voted in the UN that Hormuz must remain open and unrestrained, not one except Australia seems willing to enforce. And even Australia is weak in it’s proposed support.

I think US/Trump were surprised by this. It was a game changer IMO. When this planned support to police the free transit of oil from the Gulf failed the US was on the backfoot and each initiative from them has been a step backwards.

It is too late now to change the course of the massive global change that will come over the next six months and change the world forever.
Is your country ready?

Posted by: Bingo | Apr 9 2026 14:19 utc | 891

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 9 2026 12:26 utc | 865
The best movie ever made (IMO).
The genius of the three way gunfight is that two of the three participants (likewise the audience) don’t realise that it is only a duel.
For your delectation.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 9 2026 14:26 utc | 892

@Princess B
Shutting the Strait didn’t hurt Iran. It saved itself.
A lifetime of sanctions and attacks on its currency required action. Bessent was the Soros attack dog in London and started the destruction of Iranian Rial in Dubai.

Backup plan, if existential threat, is likely total destruction of Saudi Aramco and $1000 oil for life.

Posted by: necromancer | Apr 9 2026 14:32 utc | 893

the US is not agreement capable, we all know it. the US agrees to the ceasefire, the terms are all publicly stated, very clear explicitly stating what countries are involved AND within 5 hours the US immediately reverses course and lies about what was agreed. By the way, where is Tulsi Gabbard? I thought she was the moderate who was going to be anti-war and reform the system from the inside to be less aggressive. Guess that was just another lie, well at least Tulsi got her paycheck and in America, that’s all that matters.
Well, the ball is back in Iran’s court, let’s see if the Iranians decide to teach America another lesson

Posted by: Kadath | Apr 9 2026 14:34 utc | 894

Yes, it makes sense. Iran has prepared for decades, but the attackers also. If they (the attackers) have enough stand-off weapons, then the only strategy for Iran would be to (1) completely close Hormuz (2) destroy oil production in the region. This would create a global enregy/food meltdown that will hurt the USans at the gas station, at the supermarket. A big chunk of USans (1/3?) live paycheck to paycheck, they will go under survival level very quick. It will make the Great Depression looks like a cakewalk. From this situation, would the US government be able to continue overseas spendings? Is there going to be a US government left? Could you buy a bit of bread with 1 million pedodollars?

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 9 2026 14:00 utc | 890

Time will tell, if the cost Iran has inflicted on the US so far has been high enough for the US to take an off ramp in the form of mostly an unfavourable deal, or if the US with Israel (maybe with gulf states like UAE) are merely taking a breather to finish Iran for good, be it through mass bombing of civilian infrastructure or through another regime change once civilian structures and leadership are damaged enough to prevent it from being successful. Looking back to Vietnam war, the mass bombing didn’t work much in the case of North Vietnam to broke the spirit and resolve of its people to fight and rebuild over and over, but Vietnam had the support of the Soviet Union and China it borders.

I am not living in the US so I can’t tell how much pain and hyperinflation can its population tolerate while the Epstein class is waging its war overseas. If the plandemic can be any indication, it is probably more than the population during the Vietnam war could, but I maybe I am wrong and there will be a revolt once hundreds of americans start coming home in body bags from Iran and diesel/gas is over $10 per gallon.

Posted by: pinche | Apr 9 2026 14:34 utc | 895

Posted by: EoinW | Apr 9 2026 13:00 utc | 875

We are all humans, no one is an angel or a devil. The political class of a country are products of the “culture” (aka the dominant socio-economic system) in that country. Taking 1945 as an arbitary example, different countries were in very different conditions post-World War 2. That would affect the decisions and thinking of their political class, and that in turn affects how they act today.

You seem to suggest the hypothetical that if other countries had their hands on the levers of power they would act exactly the same way as the “developed” ones do now. Those who have evil done to them often do evil in return, it’s true. But that just seems like a useless navel gazing exercise rather than trying to understand how they are navigating a chaotic and dangerous world.

Posted by: altruisticpunisher | Apr 9 2026 14:37 utc | 896

Posted by: sfblackrobe | Apr 9 2026 0:27 utc | 595
Thank you for sharing the article. Serge’s commenters are stomping their feet and screaming. But you’re right, Serge has proven that he knows what he’s talking about. He was right about Gaza, and people didn’t like hearing that either. Many people are going to be very disappointed when the peace agreement is not what twitter propaganda accounts promised.

Posted by: catdog | Apr 9 2026 14:43 utc | 897

There will never be a war against ~~Israel~~ as long as the US military exists.
[…]
Posted by: Genesis | Apr 9 2026 9:58 utc | 812

Then, what do you call the current actions by Hezbollah and Iran against the ziofascist tumor?

Song contest? Beauty pageant? Three-legged race?

Posted by: Arganthonios | Apr 9 2026 14:44 utc | 898

Maybe they should’ve tried to help Iran save face, then they’d both look better.
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Apr 9 2026 5:23 utc | 724
They are helping Iran save face, by framing it as a “two-way ceasefire” rather than surrender and capitulation.

Posted by: catdog | Apr 9 2026 14:50 utc | 899

My heart is heavy this morning. It’s heavy because all my fears have shown their validity. Russia under the leadership of Putin is impotent. China is likely the one who forced Iran into negotiations with the genocidal lunatics. Neither was willing to go further than a few lukewarm token words of support. Iran itself has shown it does not have the ability or willingness to finish what the US and Israel started.

The fact Iran didn’t immediately respond to Israel’s atrocities in Lebanon is the tell. Yes Iran has the strait, and that is all they have. A couple years of tolls and they might have the money to rebuild what the genocidal monsters destroyed. Just in time to get flattened again. The US and Israel may not have successfully accomplished all their goals, but what they did accomplish was mowing the lawn, leaving Iran wrecked.

We all agree that there is nothing positive that can come from negotiations, yet Iran agreed to them. That by itself tells the story. It might not be a knock out, but it is certainly a US and Israeli victory by the cards. What a damn shame.

Posted by: Maverick | Apr 9 2026 14:51 utc | 900

Back to Main