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April 8, 2026
War On Iran: – April Ceasefire – A Tick Tock Of Statements And Comments

Trump has chickened out from his threat of committing a genocide in Iran by agreeing to a ceasefire based on Iran’s 10 point declaration.

The war isn’t over.

Israel will do its best to sabotage the ceasefire by all means.

If Trump really wants to stop losing the war he had started on advice of Netanyahoo (archived) he will have to throw him under a bus.

The Secretary for War Crimes Pete Hegseth and others who had urged for the war will be made scapegoats for this defeat.

An attempt to tick-tock what happened:

Minutes before the launch of the genocide he had threatened Trump chickened out.

Arash Azisi: Direct talks between Ghalibaf and Vance in the last few hours made the ceasefire agreement possible — sources in Tehran tell me.

At 23:50 UTC the Foreign Prime Minister of Pakistan Shahbaz Sharif announced a ceasefire:

With the greatest humility, I am pleased to announce that the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America, along with their allies, have agreed to an immediate ceasefire everywhere including Lebanon and elsewhere, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

I warmly welcome the sagacious gesture and extend deepest gratitude to the leadership of both the countries and invite their delegations to Islamabad on Friday, 10th April 2026, to further negotiate for a conclusive agreement to settle all disputes. …

The original statement was probably written by someone else.

Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi issued a Statement on behalf of the Supreme National Security Council of the Islamic Republic of Iran

Trump conceded defeat:

Based on conversations with Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Field Marshal Asim Munir, of Pakistan, and wherein they requested that I hold off the destructive force being sent tonight to Iran, and subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks. This will be a double sided CEASEFIRE! The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives, and are very far along with a definitive Agreement concerning Longterm PEACE with Iran, and PEACE in the Middle East. We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated. On behalf of the United States of America, as President, and also representing the Countries of the Middle East, it is an Honor to have this Longterm problem close to resolution. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP
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The full statement by the Supreme National Security Council of IranPressTV write up.

Iran’s position has slightly softened. The 10 points Iran issued yesterday are slightly different from the 10 points now mentioned in the PressTV piece (Lebanon is now missing(?!) but lifting of ALL sanctions against Iran) (There also seem to be differences on enrichment in the Farsi and English versions of the latest 10 points issued.)

Nevertheless:

Poète dubitatif @evil_SDOC – 23:56 UTC · Apr 7, 2026

If this is it really, Trump will have saved face at a cost of strategic defeat to the US, because negotiations based on the Iranians’ 10 points, together with interim Iranian control of Hormuz for the duration of the cease fire definitely means Iran has won.

White House press statement:

This is a victory for the United States that President Trump and our incredible military made happen.
From the very beginning of Operation Epic Fury, President Trump estimated this would be a 4-6 week operation.
Thanks to the unbelievable capabilities of our warriors, we have achieved and exceeded our core military objectives in 38 days.
More on that tomorrow morning from @SecWar and Chairman Caine!
The success of our military created maximum leverage, allowing President Trump and the team to engage in tough negotiations that have now created an opening for a diplomatic solution and long-term peace.
Additionally, President Trump got the Strait of Hormuz reopened.
Never underestimate President Trump’s ability to successfully advance America’s interests and broker peace.

Sarcastic comment by AmCon’s Andrew Day:

The Strait of Hormuz was closed for 47 years by the Mad Mullahs of Iran. But tonight, Donald Trump opened it.

As very positive sign Trump reposted Araghchi’s statement on his Truth Social account.

Trump’s victory statement:

…Big money will be made. Iran can start the reconstruction process. We’ll be loading up with supplies of all kinds, and just “hangin’ around” in order to make sure that everything goes well. I feel confident that it will. Just like we are experiencing in the U.S., this could be the Golden Age of the Middle East!!!

Netanyahoo falsely claims that the ceasefire “does not include Lebanon”.

The opposition leader in Israel is furious about this defeat.

Various comments:
Mark Ames:

Trump’s insanely stupid & evil war ends in perhaps the most humiliating defeat in US history. …

Amal Saad:

The US didn’t agree to a ceasefire but acquiesced to a new balance of power. …

James Acton:

The U.S. acceptance of the Iranian proposal as a basis for negotiation is a *huge* concession. There is nothing about Iran’s nuclear program in there and it includes a toll for the Strait.
Obviously this is a starting point, not an end point, but it is unlikely the U.S. will achieve any of its strategic goals—which is the price we must pay, I guess, for absolutely terrible and horrific policy.

Chinahand:

my uninformed opinion is that usa/allies denying overflight/refueling to israeli planes is the key behind the scenes condition for iran agreeing to the ceasefire. iiuc israel still lacks the ability to strike iran without these facilities. if Trump genuinely wants to wind this thing down, Netanyahu will have to resort to some other provocation to try to keep the war going. IMO.

Gregg Carlstorm

Listen, it is indeed striking that Trump describes Iran’s ten-point proposal as a “workable basis” for talks, but stipulating that at the start does not bind you to anything at the end
If America walks in and says it wants to change “right to continued enrichment” to “zero enrichment”, then we’re right back where we were in February

Side note:

The war has (so far) lasted 40 days. That limit has religious importance in Judaism and Islam.

PS: Latest Iran Lego Movie: TACO Tuesday – How to defeat a hegemon

Comments

The same France that’s 2 to 3 times smaller than Iran with 30 million less people?  

Posted by: Afglifer | Apr 9 2026 0:36 utc | 601

Slightly off-thread.
 
b allows Nisses to post on his site yet bans LoveDonbass.
 

Posted by: Siddhartha | Apr 9 2026 0:38 utc | 602

The Trump regime apparently summoned a Vatican diplomat to lecture and bully him to force Leo to fall in love behind Trump’s war. 
 
Threatening the Vatican should go well!

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 9 2026 0:39 utc | 603

@ sfblackrobe | Apr 9 2026 0:27 utc | 608 with the quote from Big Serge showing us how ignorant he is
 
Iran is 3 times the size of France which he touts as similar size…..DUH!
Certainly glad I don’t read such ignorance…maybe you should stop, eh?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 9 2026 0:39 utc | 604

Posted by: sfblackrobe | Apr 9 2026 0:27 utc | 608
 
Posted by: Nisses | Apr 9 2026 0:34 utc | 614
 
Big Serge might be right.
 
It all depends on what Trump’s initial objectives for the war were.
And that’s not clear to everyone, even in his own country.
 
Trump may be an idiot, but he’s not alone. They all knew what we know about Iran’s military capabilities.
 
So if the undeclared objectives of the war are achieved, we could say they’ve won.
But we’re not there yet, IMHO.

Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 0:42 utc | 605

The deserved innocence of the younger generations has been used to provide comfort to the older generations.

@ Sebgo

Instead of blaming Iran for closing Hormuz, why not look a little further than the superficial ?

Iran announced that it would close/control the straights if US attacked. Therefore when US attacked, it knew the straight would be closed.

In other words, the straight was open, and after bombing, the US proclaims a victory of opening the straight, or sets opening the straight as the agenda.

Iran will allow traffic through either way, as long as it un-aligns with the aggressor.

Hence the straight is open, by a certain view.

So you might ask why African or Asian countries are doing business with destructive entities, first ?

Because of monopoly, which Iran contests, no ?

The reality goes deeper of course, and that includes via the destruction of oil (and related) infrastructure, which is part of the tit-for-tat of the hostilities, initiated (at this level) by “Israel” and US.

So before wanting all ‘to go back to normal’ , which most people would actually like also, it might be worth understanding what that ‘normal’ was, and how it led to the energy (and related) supplies being restricted ?

Without forgetting of course, who interrupted that ‘normalcy’.

Which is also why various suspect a hidden agenda.

Why would US et al. interrupt and destroy world energy supply ?

So your insistances do portray what allegiance you are caught up in.

Sure, you are just thinking of those that would suffer, and I am inclined to believe that.

However the bias in proportioning blame or responsibility ?

That is not so credible, or thought out.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2026 0:42 utc | 606

Posted by: Konami | Apr 9 2026 0:19 utc | 603
 
Well said.
 
Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews.
 
 
Posted by: Siddhartha | Apr 9 2026 0:31 utc | 613
Sadly, most Jews in Israel and the West are devoted, you guessed it, Zionists.
While I generally agree with the Konami sentiment here, let’s got get carried away, fellows.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 9 2026 0:42 utc | 607

In response to

b allows Nisses to post on his site yet bans LoveDonbass. 
Posted by: Siddhartha | Apr 9 2026 0:38 utc | 616

 
Are you paid to make this specious comment?
LD postings regularly were 10% of the comments on any thread..can you show that for nisses who I skim and maybe you should just pass by, eh?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 9 2026 0:44 utc | 608

Exile at 497: the jews receive vast amounts of cashfrom the us and heavily rebated weapons as well. The friggin’ jews in the diaspora, say in canada, in uk, in the US and france collect huge sums of cash in the synagogue and by private collection from extremely wealthy jewish family. Put a legal stop to this funding of a genocidal warcrime illegal collection of jews and they will soon be gone!

Posted by: Nisses | Apr 9 2026 0:46 utc | 609

The Trump regime apparently summoned a Vatican diplomat to lecture and bully him to force Leo to fall in love behind Trump’s war. 
 
Threatening the Vatican should go well!
 
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 9 2026 0:39 utc | 618
That’s a bit redundant.  Does the Vatican need threats to support Imperialist slaughter? 
Their entire historic existence has been as a key prop of the ancient, fuedal, Capitalist and now Imperialist state.  I recall the last pope was hosting the neo Nazi Ukies.  
In the spirit of Konami, I’ll say their are still some good priests out there (low ranking guys) and the art is just magnificent.  Those pope outfits are pretty stylish too.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 9 2026 0:49 utc | 610

Posted by: Exile | Apr 8 2026 20:48 utc | 496

Shaddy Maybelline….

Posted by: Nobody | Apr 9 2026 0:52 utc | 611

@Sebgo:
Of course the starving in Africa will be especially dire. But may be the strait closing which is necessary for Iran´s victory could indirectly end also the still ongoing colonialism (like CFA) also in Africa once and for all?
Because there are, as far as I know, the same Epstein class groups hindering African countries/peoples to profit from their own resources (same with Mossadegh in Iran 1953), terrorising some with islamist proxies like Boko Haram and trying to keep them in chaos and dependent of “help” by inflicting wars/civil wars etc?

Posted by: Blue Angel | Apr 9 2026 0:53 utc | 612

I’ll probably never tire of repeating this 1 little known fact: after the Nazis came to power in 1933, the two professional categories quickest to expunge Jews (“Gleichschaltung”) were university professors and physicians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung
Posted by: Konami | Apr 9 2026 0:06 utc | 595
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Thank you, I never knew that. When the Jews in the Netherlands were dismissed in early 1941 some Dutch universities closed or were closed. Some temporarily, others until the end of the war in 1945.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Apr 9 2026 0:54 utc | 613

Big Serge : “America has found a way to wage war on a state the size of France (…)
Posted by: sfblackrobe | Apr 9 2026 0:27 utc | 608

 
France (metropolitan part) : 543,941 km2
Iran : 1,648,195 km2
So Iran is 3 times the size of metropolitan France (i.e. excluding overseas France). Three times bigger the largest European country (excluding Russia).

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 9 2026 0:58 utc | 614

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 9 2026 0:44 utc | 623
 
I’m of independant means so I don’t have to be paid to make comments.
 
LD postings regularly were 10% of the comments on any thread..can you show that for nisses who I skim and maybe you should just pass by, eh?
 
I read all comments. Some I agree with some I don’t.
 
As per your reasoning, why didn’t you just pass by LD’s comments? 
 

Posted by: Siddhartha | Apr 9 2026 0:59 utc | 615

What Big Serge is suggesting is that Iran has to take the war to America to inflict the kind of damage to force the US to stop.  However Iran has been consistent in its desire to NOT escalate and only to respond to Israeli/American escalation.  Even when closing the strait, Iran has attempted to find a middle ground, rather than closing it 100%(even though a total closure might achieve economic chaos in the US faster, thus ending the war sooner and saving Iranian lives).
 
What we have here is a difference in strategy between what Iran is doing and what Big Serge thinks it should be doing to be winning.  Credit the Iranians with being as civilized as possible.  However when, in an existential fight, should civilized behavior be discarded?  I do not have the answer to that question.
 
Regarding Iran not inflicting enough damage on America to be winning.  First, it’s not Iran’s fault that America lies about its losses and Americans are indifferent about the whole war(except when filling their car).  Second, we do not yet know how great the economic damage to America is.  For all we know, a vicious First Round Iranian left hook may have America in a slow motion KO.

Posted by: EoinW | Apr 9 2026 1:01 utc | 616

Big Serge
Posted by: sfblackrobe | Apr 9 2026 0:27 utc | 608
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Great historical military analyst, especially WW II and its antecedent, WW I, but disagreed with his posting (paid subscriber) because he misses the political context. If he read MoA he might come around.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Apr 9 2026 1:02 utc | 617

Big Serge : “America has found a way to wage war on a state the size of France (…)Posted by: sfblackrobe | Apr 9 2026 0:27 utc | 608
 
The only apt comparison geographically speaking  would be all of West Europe to Iran, that’s a fair comparison.

Posted by: Afglifer | Apr 9 2026 1:03 utc | 618

Of course the starving in Africa will be especially dire. But may be the strait closing which is necessary for Iran´s victory could indirectly end also the still ongoing colonialism (like CFA) also in Africa once and for all?Because there are, as far as I know, the same Epstein class groups hindering African countries/peoples to profit from their own resources (same with Mossadegh in Iran 1953), terrorising some with islamist proxies like Boko Haram and trying to keep them in chaos and dependent of “help” by inflicting wars/civil wars etc?
Posted by: Blue Angel | Apr 9 2026 0:53 utc | 627
 
Thank you for expressing a far better response than the clumsy one I attempted earlier.
 
No one wants to see people starving.  However Iran must do all it can to prevail.  The sooner it wins this war the more Iranian, Lebanese and Palestinian lives are saved.

Posted by: EoinW | Apr 9 2026 1:05 utc | 619

@silverfox  #516
Excellent comment.  Another opinion of the dynamic duo of Witkoff and Kusher is from the Russians, and then from Witkoff himself.
No link, will paraphrase
Russian negotiators on Ukraine sitation described Witkoff as rude and arrogant, using foul language (like Trump).  Jared was described as never saying a word, and both never took any notes.  This observation may be attributed to Kirill Dimitriev.
Witkoff has referred to Jared as his “Rebbe”, someone possessed of great knowledge and wisdom.  In other cultures a Rishi, Oracle, or Idiot Savant, take your pick…. 
 

Posted by: Local Oscillator | Apr 9 2026 1:12 utc | 620

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2026 0:42 utc | 621
 
I was simply reacting to a proposal that struck me as selfish and ill-conceived, one that will cause damage without achieving any of the stated objectives.
 
I don’t share your view of only trading with partners chosen based on moral or political criteria.
Unfortunately, the economy doesn’t work that way, especially for small businesses.
 
Even for large countries, the US would prefer not to have to buy rare earth minerals from China, and China would prefer not to have to buy oil from the US.
 
I know that in a context of shortages of petroleum products and fertilizers, certain preferences, not necessarily financial ones, will always harm some, and that’s the reality.
 
And I know that this reduction in supply certainly won’t liberate Palestine or change the mentality of the oppressors.
 
But the worst part is that I believe you’re asking Iran to do precisely what is the US’s main objective in this war: reduce the supply coming from the Persian Gulf.
 
You asked why, I will give you a long reply in another post.

Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 1:18 utc | 621

Big Serge is a youthful reader.  With no personal exposure to military sciences.
 
After the first questionable assertion he is TL/DR
 
Writes prolifically, take a position actually many positions which are sustained by limited facts, he depends on historians!
 
Historians make points.

Posted by: paddy | Apr 9 2026 1:21 utc | 622

Core ceasefire terms are dead on arrival. It’s already been made clear that there is no intent to follow through on
-U.S. commitment to ensure no further acts of aggression.
-Acceptance of Iran’s nuclear enrichment rights.
-Lifting of all primary sanctions.
-Lifting of all secondary sanctions.
-Termination of all International Atomic Energy Agency Board of Governors resolutions against Iran.
-Termination of all United Nations Security Council resolutions against Iran.
-Payment of damages to Iran for loss in the war.
-Withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from the region.
-Cessation of hostilities on all fronts, including Lebanon.
 
Trump now wears the ceasefire. As the war resumes, the U.S. can’t rejoin after today’s media blitz without making it openly visible that Netanyahu outranks Trump. This dynamic creates a non-zero probability of a false flag event to manufacture an alternate justification to bring the U.S. fully back in. 

Posted by: CallSaul | Apr 9 2026 1:25 utc | 623

Posted by: Blue Angel | Apr 9 2026 0:53 utc | 627
 
Posted by: EoinW | Apr 9 2026 1:05 utc | 635
 
Let’s not fight the wrong battle.
 
Could you explain how you believe closing the Strait of Hormuz can “liberate Palestine”?
 
Certainly, it’s a key to Iran’s victory in this war imposed upon it, and a means of exerting pressure on international opinion to demand an end to the fighting.
 
But let’s also try to be objective; even Iran hasn’t framed the fate of Palestine as a peace agreement.
 
I remind you that the strait has been closed, in reality strictly controlled by Iran, for several weeks.
How has this improved the situation for the Palestinians?
 
This noble goal needs other means.

Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 1:27 utc | 624

It’s likely that Trump had to find a way to talk down the huge destruction of a civilization tweet so faking a ceasefire was one way.  Plus his buddies probably made a fortune playing the market.

Posted by: Afglifer | Apr 9 2026 1:30 utc | 625

https://www.rt.com/news/637763-why-iran-looks-winner/
Great read, well worded.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Apr 9 2026 1:31 utc | 626

As usual, Thierry Meyssan is helpful: “This is the great discovery of this war.” US forgot that International Law allows Iran to attack countries that host US military bases such as Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Jordan, Kuwait, Oman, and Qatar. “International law stipulates that attacked states can take action against their aggressor not only on their own territory but also against military bases operating from abroad that participate in the aggression and finally against third-party states that host these bases.”…4/7/26, “International Law or Foreign Military Bases: A Choice Must Be Made,” by Thierry Meyssan, Voltaire…https://www.voltairenet.org/article224176.html

Posted by: susan mullen | Apr 9 2026 1:31 utc | 627

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2026 0:42 utc | 621
 
You asked me why the aggressor would want a reduction in the supply of oil and related products from the Gulf countries.
 
This is my personal analysis based on global energy figures I work with.
 
In short: autonomy, exports, competitiveness, and survival for the US require the opposite of what Trump says.
 
Politically, Trump has to say he wants low fuel prices. But that’s not true.
 
The US needs higher gas and oil prices for years to come, and this is a structural need, not a temporary one.
To achieve this, they’re putting on a show to justify destroying production capacity. Why?
 
*In 6 to 7 years, the US will no longer have conventional oil but only shale oil.
 
*In the past ten years, the price of oil was  between 50 and 80 dollar per barrel except short fall or rise.
 
*The production cost of shale oil is rising. It is around $70 per barrel now and will be around $95 per barrel by 2035.
 
What American official, knowing this, would want oil prices below $80 for the next decade?
 
All the theatrics surrounding the achievement of this objective are justified by the impossibility of admitting this truth : They choose to destroy production capacity to get higher prices.
 
Therefore, Trump may be defeated militarily and withdraw, but achieve his objectives.
 
A toll on the Strait of Hormuz is a step in the “right direction” for them, but for the moment, the destruction of capabilities doesn’t seem sufficient to maintain a high oil price in the long term.
 
We should therefore expect further developments.

Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 1:36 utc | 628

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Apr 9 2026 0:54 utc | 628
 
And there is a reason for this happening in universities which is observable right now. Just look at what Trump has been doing in the US with academics and universities with his threats and budget cuts. Of course academics are easy to blame, but there is little measure of  other people and groups that also aligned with the Nazis in WWII due mainly to duress.  This happened as the Nazis gained more power throughout the 1930s and many people eventually caved into their views given the fascist and brutal behaviour of Hitler’s followers.  He gained his power through democratic vote but once he had it he changed his tactics and used threats and brutal yes men and women to achieve his aims.
 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Apr 9 2026 1:42 utc | 629

King Charles is set to make a state visit to the USA to mark the 250th anniversary of American independance.
 
So the head of state of the UK is celebrating his country’s loss of one of its colonies.
 
That is what vassal countries do.

Posted by: Siddhartha | Apr 9 2026 1:46 utc | 630

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2026 0:42 utc | 621
 
To get back to our discussion, I was not criticizing Iran regarding the Strait of Hormuz, but rather the commentator on MoA.
 
Iran has chosen the best response to its enemies: a “filtering barrier”.
 
They let friendly ships through but keep hostile ones out.
 
Furthermore, Saudi Arabia bypassing the Strait via its pipeline to the Red Sea is enough to mitigate the consequences while still putting sufficient pressure on the West.
 
Our fellow barfly was calling for a complete and airtight closure, which is something else entirely, with far more serious consequences.

Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 1:49 utc | 631

@637 Sebgo

“I don’t share your view of only trading with partners chosen based on moral or political criteria.”

As far as I am concerned people trade with who they choose, there is no ‘only’ in that. More to the point is who people choose not to trade with, based on moral or political realities. Iran for example would not facilitate trade to a country (and its partners) that is genocidal and which it is under attack from.

The reduction in supply is in large part due to infrastructure loss, possibly more so than Hormuz being closed. For now assessment is restricted, due to wartime censorship. That is due to attacks started by US and “Israel” (using a concise context), with much destruction directly caused by those.

As far as Iranian, or Russian, or other, complicities go, and at whatever level, anyone is free to speculate. Until anyone has credible or tangible proof, personally I take all at face value , including any obvious manipulation and arrangements into the equation.

“this reduction in supply certainly won’t liberate Palestine”

In itself no, but the theater is much broader and more complex.

In short, Iran has a right to blockade the resources of those attacking it.

Meaning, they should not attack it, meaning now that they have they must listen and agree to Iran’s confitions to so take the hostility as ended and for the blockade to be lifted.

Of course it is unlikely they will, but will instead continue to attempt to destroy Iran, or at the very least insist on holding hegemonic control over it.

I’m not asking Iran to do anything by the way, am only explaining the justifications that exist.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2026 1:51 utc | 632

VP Vance, who supposedly is one of the negotiators, IMO has disqualified himself after dissing Iran’s 10 Point working proposal:
 

Vice President J.D. Vance said he has seen three different 10-point demands from Iran, which have contributed to “misunderstanding,” claiming that the first draft was “probably written by ChatGPT” and went straight “in the garbage.” [Format Original]

 
IMO, the Outlaw US Empire is even more incapable of negotiating than it was during Biden’s term when Russia coined that term. Iran’s just as stuck as it was 48 hours ago when it had no credible person to talk with in the enemy camp. The entire Trump Gang has their heads up their collective asses.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 9 2026 1:53 utc | 633

It is really important to distinguish between Jews, Zionists, citizens of Israel and leadership of Israel. All parts of the Axis of Resistance (Iran, Hezbollah, Ansar Allah etc.) do so. We’re at MOA aren’t fighting, we’re just talking. At the very least we can make those distinctions too. Remember: dehumanising humans = language of fascists
Posted by: Konami | Apr 9 2026 0:19 utc | 603
 
Fully agree. Some here appear to  have learned nothing – as well as being ignorantly racist it is also placing the future of this bar in jeopardy considering where the owner resides.
 

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 9 2026 1:55 utc | 634

Malaleuca@488:
 
“We have the Congress, the Senate and a record strong jewish lobby on our side – America won’t force us to do anything.”
 
Sounds like the perfect reason why Americans should rise, not yet another excuse why not to…How many wars, genocides, occupations and mass death for fun and profit in their name are the American people prepared to stand around and watch as millions die due to the longstanding and oft remarked ability of the Yanqui citizenry to just enjoy the show, do some performative only virtue-signalling or simply avert their eyes and do nothing? You’ve even got a Constitution that mandates taking up arms to remove governmental tyranny. Enough is enough. Figure it out and get to it. The world is waiting.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 9 2026 1:57 utc | 635

Escobar illuminates an excellent point in his chat with Judge Nap about China’s role in Iran’s agreeing to a potential, tentative ceasefire and opines they now have “skin in the game.” Iranian General Rezaei: “The responsibility for the ceasefire’s collapse lies with the United States, which either does not want to or is incapable of restraining its ‘rabid dog.’”  
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 9 2026 0:23 utc | 605
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But can it be known  that, or whether, Pepe is right about China’s role?      

Posted by: Jane | Apr 9 2026 1:57 utc | 636

Let’s not fight the wrong battle. Could you explain how you believe closing the Strait of Hormuz can “liberate Palestine”? Certainly, it’s a key to Iran’s victory in this war imposed upon it, and a means of exerting pressure on international opinion to demand an end to the fighting. But let’s also try to be objective; even Iran hasn’t framed the fate of Palestine as a peace agreement. I remind you that the strait has been closed, in reality strictly controlled by Iran, for several weeks.How has this improved the situation for the Palestinians? This noble goal needs other means.
Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 1:27 utc | 640
 
First I want to apologize to you for my inept response earlier.  I’ll try to do better this time.
 
I wouldn’t say the objective is to liberate Palestine.  The objective is to drive the US military out of west Asia and to end the state of Israel.  Accomplishing this will give Iran peace and security.  Fringe benefit is that by driving away the Jewish squatters, Palestine will be liberated.
 
America’s Achilles Heel is its giant economic Ponzi scheme.  Therefore victory for Iran will come by breaking the US economic system.  This also serves the purpose of turning the average American against his own government.  Americans have a violent nature.  The reason there has been no peace in the world this century is because America exports that violence.  What the rest of the world needs is for Americans to be forced to turn that violence upon themselves.  Maybe they’ll eventually learn what a bad national trait it is to possess.
 
Granted we are in uncharted waters regarding the current western economic system.  We have never seen so much debt before and it increases to record levels daily.  No one knows what will break the Ponzi, nor how bad the crisis/collapse will be.  However Iran can’t begin firing missiles at the USA and even if it drives the US military out of west Asia the Americans can always return(or attack from long distance) so long as the US dollar has value.  Breaking the economy is the only way for Iran to achieve its objectives.
 
I’m afraid winning international opinion won’t do Iran any good.  The Americans and Israelis couldn’t care less about such opinions.  Plus Iran can’t even count of its biggest supporters – China & Russia – to publicly state that America is now a rouge state.  It has to be an economic KO.  We have to pray America’s economy is more fragile than anyone can imagine.

Posted by: EoinW | Apr 9 2026 1:59 utc | 637

Eligible US men will be automatically registered for military draft pool beginning in December.
 
Before for Selective Service. You have to manually input your details on a website like I did to register for a conscription service in case of a war. Nowadays, the US.GOV is doing it on your behalf automatically. 
 
Thank you US.gov for making the war machine so efficient. Now, I can’t dodge a draft.

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 9 2026 2:00 utc | 638

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 9 2026 1:53 utc | 652
 
I don’t buy the euphoria – we are in WWIII – Hegemon vs Multi-polarity – we are still in WWIII and Hegemon strategy is to topple IRI in any which way it can – hence also weakening both RF and the PRC as well as gaining further control over global energy.
 
Fair play to IRI for fighting – fight or submit to serfdom – they are the choices. As we have discussed previously, the Strait provides IRI with a very powerful Financial Weapon – whose bullets are what really wounds the Hegemon. I assume that IRI leadership sleeps these days with both eyes open as Zio/US has no intention whatsoever of desisting from its plan to cripple it and break it from RF & PRC. 
 
@IRI
RESPECT!

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 9 2026 2:06 utc | 639

It is really important to distinguish between Jews, Zionists, citizens of Israel and leadership of Israel. All parts of the Axis of Resistance (Iran, Hezbollah, Ansar Allah etc.) do so. We’re at MOA aren’t fighting, we’re just talking. At the very least we can make those distinctions too. Remember: dehumanising humans = language of fascistsPosted by: Konami | Apr 9 2026 0:19 utc | 603 Fully agree. Some here appear to  have learned nothing – as well as being ignorantly racist it is also placing the future of this bar in jeopardy considering where the owner resides. 
Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 9 2026 1:55 utc | 653
 
Noble sentiments gentlemen.  I applaud you for them.
 
I do need to point out that Zionists are not aliens from another planet.  They were originally all Jews, are still mostly Jews and have had the full support of the Jewish community in the West throughout the history of Israel.
 
I’m not calling for an end to the Jews.  However we should keep in mind where Zionists come from if we are to eliminate Zionism and prevent its future return.
 
Plus recent behavior in Israel has reminded us that the Jewish religion is the only pre-historic tribal religion to exist in the modern era.  Perhaps it doesn’t belong in a more civilised modern world.

Posted by: EoinW | Apr 9 2026 2:10 utc | 640

Explosive Media–Lego Videos–tic-tok page.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 9 2026 2:13 utc | 641

Siddharta at 618: why wouldn’t he allow nisses to post whatever he finds relevant to the topic in question. I have no idea what lovedonbas has posted and which apparently has brought down b’s wrath on him. Maybe siddharta’s snitching on other posters should suffice to have him banned although I have not an inkling of idea what siddharta is all about!
 

Posted by: Nisses | Apr 9 2026 2:13 utc | 642

R2R: The War on Iran is A De Facto NATO Operation
 
https://www.youtube.com/@reason2resist/videos
 
“Is Greece enabling war on Iran?”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 9 2026 2:13 utc | 643

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 9 2026 2:00 utc | 657
 
Shades of the Vietnam era again apart from the online forms. Plenty of people dodged the draft however and despite the consequences back then, same for in my country Australia where conscripts were chosen via lottery or ballot. The resistance to the draft by many helped to put an end to that American led catastrophic and unecessary war as well. 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Apr 9 2026 2:14 utc | 644

Correction to 663 above. Ref should be to 616 and not 618!!!

Posted by: Nisses | Apr 9 2026 2:16 utc | 645

Don Firineach | Apr 9 2026 2:06 utc | 659
 
Hmmm…. Didn’t think I was projecting “euphoria,” nor was Pepe, IMO.
 
Jane | Apr 9 2026 1:57 utc | 655
 
Pepe has his sources. His latest essay is now published. 

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 9 2026 2:18 utc | 646

@661 George

Nah, laws of various countries now tell us zionist=jew=”israel”=semite and to criticise any is to criticise all.

Just so you know who to correct, i.e. the people that ‘normies’ find normal.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2026 2:20 utc | 647

Mahmood OD: ‘Back To War’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@Mahmood_OD/streams
 
“US denies agreement| Proxies strike Iran | New ultimatum|”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 9 2026 2:21 utc | 648

Posted by: EoinW | Apr 9 2026 1:59 utc | 656
 
Thank you for the reply.
Please see my take about the situation at
 
Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 1:36 utc | 644
 
And
Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 1:49 utc | 649
 

Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 2:23 utc | 649

GeorgeWendell at 665. What forced the end of the vietnam war was the endless stream of bodybags arriving back to the bases and the mothers if these young boys being bodybagged home led to an opposition against the war that nixon couldn’t do anything about.
today the military is based on conscripts that can’t really complain when the shtf!

Posted by: Nisses | Apr 9 2026 2:23 utc | 650

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2026 1:51 utc | 651
 
We understand each other.
 
I don’t believe that China or Russia are complicit in American plans.
 
Since the situation I described is largely a matter of choice, I believe they will simply follow how the hegemon handles the consequences of those choices.
 
It would have been possible to extend the availability of cheaper Texas oil, but they chose to be among the top exporters, quickly depleting it.
 
It would have been possible to protect the credibility of the dollar and thus ensure easy imports from other countries, but they preferred to weaponize it.
 
The other powers know they can insulate themselves from the potential consequences of these machinations.
The Europeans, too, have surely understood but lack the courage and the means to oppose it.
 
Regarding the absence of a direct US attack on the oil interests of Iran and the Gulf states, I believe that is a matter of policy.
They don’t want to expose their objectives by destroying production capacity themselves, but rather enrage Iranian decision-makers enough to force them to do it for them. And take retaliation.
Iranians were able to avoid the trap.
 
I believe the current destruction of oil facilities in the Gulf countries is a false flag operation, always aimed at this same goal.

Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 2:28 utc | 651

@661 George
Nah, laws of various countries now tell us zionist=jew=”israel”=semite and to criticise any is to criticise all.
Just so you know who to correct, i.e. the people that ‘normies’ find normal.
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2026 2:20 utc | 668
===============================
 
Of course that’s a yuge problem, the conflation of criticism of Israel or Zionism with “anti-Semitism”, what I call the weaponization of “anti-Semitism”. Another artifact of Jewish supremacy.
 
All the more reason for us here at MoA to be more careful in our criticism of Israel and Zionism. Not because we recognize the new definition of “anti-Semitism” as valid—on the contrary—or just because we’re afraid of the new consequences, but to make it clear just who we’re condemning and who we’re not.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Apr 9 2026 2:28 utc | 652

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 9 2026 2:18 utc | 667
 
On ‘euphoria’ I was certainly not referring to you – just to much of the general climate that IRI has won etc and that all this is a great deal etc that all is well with the world – both on this site and in alt-media …
 

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 9 2026 2:28 utc | 653

Iran is justified in whatever it does. Fuck everyone else who stood by.
 
The poor people ot Europe, Asia and Africa can go fuck themselves for electing the Pedophile Class beholden to the Bankers. 
 
Don’t fucking pull the “Victim” card here. We’re well aware of where that has led to this very moment. 
 
The problem is solely the depraved crowd controlling the War machine in the US, the Colony and Europe.
 
If you try and any way blame Iran or Russia or China for anything including the ongoing Genocide, then you part of that problem.
 
That goes for not celebrating the militaries that have succeeded in overthrowing the shackles of colonialism in Africa and Asia too, who surprisingly are firmly in the Iran, China and Russian camp.

Posted by: Suresh | Apr 9 2026 2:30 utc | 654

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Apr 9 2026 2:14 utc | 665
It’s not vietnam era anymore. You get a driver license the computer will check if you registered for Selective Service if you check box male on your application. You need to register for the draft to apply for FATSA/ Financial Aids in college. So on and so on. To dodge a draft that means the next generation kids need to give up their benefits.

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 9 2026 2:31 utc | 655

He gained his power through democratic vote but once he had it he changed his tactics and used threats and brutal yes men and women to achieve his aims. 
Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Apr 9 2026 1:42 utc | 646
 
GW – hate to correct you, because i learned to value your comments; but if my reading and hearing from witnesses of those times is true to facts, than Hitler gained his power not through elections but because he was nominated to the post of Kanzler by the dying Feldmarschall v. Hindenburg.  This fact is frequently missed by foreigners, and the mantra that “Germans elected Hitler” therefore they are guilty is wrong. Hitler consolidated his power a few months later – in those months he used violent tactics to twin a majority (but not an absolute majority). 
 
I do not want to derail this thread , and will not engage in replying – we could transfer this discussion to open thread.
March 1933 German federal election – Wikipedia

Posted by: fanto | Apr 9 2026 2:36 utc | 656

Posted by: Nisses | Apr 9 2026 2:23 utc | 673
 
I know full well what happened in that era because I missed out on conscription by 6 months given Australia’s retraction from the war. I also had an American friend from California who went through hell over the US draft but managed to eventually get rejected. Body bags were one thing, but there was also much censorship back then and lack of compromise from the government as well. The reaction against the war was so great from younger people that it caused a generation of pro-peace activists that had a huge impact on the US pulling out. 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Apr 9 2026 2:36 utc | 657

I just want to wake up tomorrow to:
 
WAVE 101 of True Promise 4
 
With a minimum of 12 targets hit in Zioland…
 

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 9 2026 2:40 utc | 658

Posted by: Suresh | Apr 9 2026 2:30 utc | 677
 
One problem that Americans have is:  which African militaries are pro-Africa and which are pro-American fronts?  So much disinformation, intentional lying, to make it hard to know.  I mean a LOT of lying.  If a you tube channel has a segment where they use American style propaganda techniques – does that mean the channel is an American front?  Or is it an African channel that got a warning for being too anti-American and has to have a few American propaganda segments?
 
I keep up with it as best I can.  But just like here on MOA where the most frustrating times are when there is so much fog of war and no one really knows what is going on, dealing with the fog of war is frustrating.

Posted by: Woke American | Apr 9 2026 2:41 utc | 659

How has this improved the situation for the Palestinians? This noble goal needs other means.Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 1:27 utc | 640
==============
 
Short answer, per  Pepe Escobar on Judge Nap:
Iranians say: “All fronts or no front.”
They are all connected. No a la carte ceasefire or other arrangements.
Palestine is still at the heart of this conflict.

Posted by: Jane | Apr 9 2026 2:43 utc | 660

Hmmmmm … a massive turning of public opinion in the U.S. against the Vietnam War eventually brought that war to an end?
 
Having lived through that time (I missed getting drafted by having a high-enough lottery number), I’ve always been skeptical of that explanation that’s often trotted out.
 
Not that there weren’t massive demonstrations and more militant actions against the war: there were, including some very high-profile bombings.
 
But there were other factors:

  • Fraggings in Vietnam and other “unrest” in the military
  • The release of the Pentagon Papers
  • Corporate disenchantment with the war and its effects on the economy

I have no idea which, if any, of these factors may have contributed to the end of the war.
I think it’s far too facile to think that what the public thought of the war really mattered to those who kept it going, even back in that era of more openness.
 
Sounds too much to me like a Ken Burns take on the war.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Apr 9 2026 2:45 utc | 661

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 9 2026 2:31 utc | 678
 
Despite it being the internet, AI, and surveillance era, similar problems beset young men back in the Vietnam era that you face today. Many of those people faced jail sentences and a hell of a lot more in resisting governments that were equally overbearing and uncompromising back then. There were many penalties. 
 
When LBJ visited Australia and went for a drive through the streets of Sydney protestors threw themselves in front of his car and were arrested by the cops. The state leader at the time sitting next to LBJ told the driver to “run over the bastards”.  In the end that created even more resistance which led to Australia withdrawing from the war. 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Apr 9 2026 2:46 utc | 662

Don Firineach | Apr 9 2026 1:55 utc | 653
you are right, however these four groups do not run around with the big labels on their lapels, informing the goyim “I am a Jew. a righteous one”
“I am a Zionist”
“I am a Israeli Jew” etc.etc. etc.
I Germany after 1945 there were no self declared Nazis. 
 
I am so tired of trying to distinguish between them, not knowing what is their true nature, Mimicry is the name of the game in animal world, some animals excel in it.

Posted by: fanto | Apr 9 2026 2:48 utc | 663

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2026 2:20 utc | 668
i’ve said this before, since questioning the nazi state of israel has become illegal, if people had wanted to point to other criminal regimes whose existence is owed to NATO, the whole world, and the ME esp, is a very target rich environment. 
 
which GCC gov’t would not be overthrown and its leaders rightly executed w/o the support of the terrorist states of NATO? most or all of them?
 
if questioning Israel’s right to exist = the Holocaust, is the same true of questioning the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia? or questioning how much money the NATO states spend on their military budgets vs Russia Russia evil evil Russia? 

Posted by: duck n cover | Apr 9 2026 2:50 utc | 664

Why don’t I share MOA with people around me?  There is so much information that we “just know” that few Americans know, and worse yet it contradicts completely what they do “know”.  4 years ago I could have shared a Larry Johnson video, and much of what he said back then was in line with mainstream US thinking.  Now?  Not at all.
 
I mentioned to family members that health care in China is better than health care in the US.  Not only did it fall on deaf ears, but they shunned me for a while.  Americans are seeing everything they believe in crumble, and are in a “I BELIEVE WHAT I BELIEVE” mode where any threat to those beliefs are treated as a threat to themselves.
 
Not sure at all how to deal with that.  Summary:   the problem with MOA for outsiders is not the “crap”.  In fact, more crap would cause them to read MORE of the site, and then once in a while throw in a very short post with facts about ANYTHING that is discussed here.  They would dismiss it the first few times they read it.  But over time some might start to accept some of what is said here.

Posted by: Woke American | Apr 9 2026 2:50 utc | 665

Slow news.  No updates from Hezbollah?  Did Iran launch on Israel tonight?

Posted by: JackG | Apr 9 2026 2:55 utc | 666

Headline over at ZH
 
“There Goes Your Inventory”: Disgruntled Worker Sets Fire To Million-Square-Foot Toilet Paper Warehouse

Posted by: Exile | Apr 9 2026 3:07 utc | 667

https://youtu.be/9tpFpon7SzI
 
Powerful video of Nima / Hudson.  GREAT questions by Nima.  Powerful answers by Hudson, including discussions about replacing the UN with a new international organization with less power to the US, Iranian options in their war with US/Israel, the US / Western Europe attack on any nation that produces a ton of oil not controlled by them (like Russia and Iran), the alliance between the US Christian Nationalists and Israel (the Christians believe that if US and Israel would just nuke Iran, then Jesus would come down, and liberate Christians into heaven while condemning Jewish people to hell).  Many other quite intriguing questions and Michael Hudson knocks the answers our of the park.

Posted by: Woke American | Apr 9 2026 3:08 utc | 668

Trump has just posted to TruthSocial that the 10-point plan that was published by the New York Times is fake, a hoax.  Here is his post:
 
The Failing New York Times and Fake News CNN each reported a totally FAKE TEN POINT PLAN on the Iran negotiations which was meant to discredit the people involved in the peace process. All ten points were a made up HOAX – EVIL LOSERS!!! MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
 
As far as I can tell, this is the same 10-point plan that b posted here at Moon of Alabama.  The same one appearing on Twitter on April 6 – 25 hours before Trump’s deadline.
 
Does anyone know what 10-point plan Iran would have submitted other than the one that was published in the NYTimes and on Twitter here:  https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2041292793063121380

Posted by: Belle | Apr 9 2026 3:16 utc | 669

Iran had no choice but to negotiate and they will be defeated there. Trump is an expert bully and the sneakiest of snakes, besides if they don’t give in murricans will just terrorist strike whoever is in charge of negotiations.
There were colossus at the helm in Iran at the beginning, but eventually there will be just common humans left and their choices will be influenced by fear of horrible explosive death. Meanwhile Isntreal will keep pounding Hezbollah and annexing Lebanese territory.
Xi and Putin exercising their 6D taekwondo/judo patience bird watching somewhere. Not looking good. By the way, what happened with the wonder weapon the iraníes announced around the f15 fiasco? We sure need a miracle if we want to see the end of the zioempire in our lifetimes 

Posted by: Mariátegui | Apr 9 2026 3:22 utc | 670

When has Israel ever honored a cease fire, bombs still fall in Lebanon. The US may be using Kushner and Whitkoff again, and we all know what happens when these lying Zionists ever “negotiate”. The US is agreement incapable. Iran will be sneak attacked again, the only thing in doubt is when.

Posted by: Organic | Apr 9 2026 3:23 utc | 671

Posted by: Woke American | Apr 9 2026 2:41 utc | 684
 
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature. They want the situation to be unreadable to most outside observers.
 
This allows them to spread the biggest fake news.
 
The virulence of the attacks I’ve been subjected to here shows the importance they place on erasing any genuine testimony.
And it continues, even if it’s less widespread and pronounced.
 
And we’re not even officially at war, so it’s the “fog of no war”.

Posted by: Sebgo | Apr 9 2026 3:25 utc | 672

On a side note, 40 days of hostilities means that Trump has less than three weeks before the dead-man’s switch in the War Powers Act hits zero.
There are only three ways Trump can avoid that:
1) Congress votes him an Authorisation for the Use of Military Force (AUMF)
2) Congress votes for a formal Declaration of War
3) Trump ceases hostilities against Iran
The odds of Trump getting (1) or (2) is exactly zero, so he’s attempting (3).
Which poses an interesting question: if this ceasefire holds for a day or two and then hostilities break out again, what does that do to the 60-day countdown stipulated in the WPA?
Does the countdown restart at Day 41? Or does it reset to Day 1?
And if it is the latter then what stops Trump from resetting that countdown ad-infinitum?

  •  

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Apr 9 2026 3:28 utc | 673

Don Firineach | Apr 9 2026 2:28 utc | 676
 
Thanks for your reply that I now understand since I saw an example this morning provided by Scott Ritter during his chat with Judge Nap that forced me to terminate it. I did watch Dr. Hudson’s solo chat with Nima which I found too short.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 9 2026 3:32 utc | 674

Belle | Apr 9 2026 3:16 utc | 700
 
“Trump has just posted to TruthSocial that the 10-point plan that was published by the New York Times is fake, a hoax…”
 
From this, and from what Vance was quoted saying earlier it sounds like Trump and his top people were/are confused about the difference between what actual negotiators actually tell them, as opposed to stuff on the internet.
 
It seems like with an obviously fake “ceasefire”, Iran was trying to join the US in kayfabe like the way they’ve done twice before, and like the pro-wrestling sham the US and Russia have going in the Ukraine, but the US administration has become too incompetent even for that.
 
I still think that’s a good thing, and that Trump is accelerating the collapse of the empire, in spite of the panic lots of people are feeling lately.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Apr 9 2026 3:36 utc | 675

Nima R Alkhorshid: Breaking…
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QlyQgK8_cQ
 
“Hezbollah just resumed military operations against Israel.”
 
Finish them.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 9 2026 3:39 utc | 676

 
Brent oil spot price above $120 in sign that Iran ceasefire can’t solve deep disruption
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/08/dated-brent-oil-price-iran-war-ceasefire-strait-hormuz.html

Posted by: Exile | Apr 9 2026 3:40 utc | 677

Belle | Apr 9 2026 3:16 utc | 700
 
Here’s the official list provided by PressTV. You’ll see it’s rather different than the one on the X you linked:
 

  • No new aggression against Iran
  • Continued Iranian control over the Strait of Hormuz
  • Acceptance of uranium enrichment
  • Removal of all primary sanctions
  • Removal of all secondary sanctions
  • Termination of all anti-Iran UN Security Council resolutions
  • Termination of all anti-Iran IAEA Board of Governors resolutions
  • Payment of compensation to Iran
  • Withdrawal of US combat forces from the region
  • Cessation of war on all fronts, including against the Islamic Resistance of Lebanon (Hezbollah)

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 9 2026 3:48 utc | 678

On a side note, 40 days of hostilities means that Trump has less than three weeks before the dead-man’s switch in the War Powers Act hits zero.
There are only three ways Trump can avoid that:
1) Congress votes him an Authorisation for the Use of Military Force (AUMF)
2) Congress votes for a formal Declaration of War
3) Trump ceases hostilities against Iran
 
Posted by: Yeah, Right | Apr 9 2026 3:28 utc | 706
===================================
 
Or 4) Congress finds some way to kick the can down the road.
They’re really good at that, you know.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Apr 9 2026 3:48 utc | 679

All U.S. Ships, Aircraft, and Military Personnel, with additional Ammunition, Weaponry, and anything else that is appropriate and necessary for the lethal prosecution and destruction of an already substantially degraded Enemy, will remain in place in, and around, Iran, until such time as the REAL AGREEMENT reached is fully complied with. If for any reason it is not, which is highly unlikely, then the “Shootin’ Starts,” bigger, and better, and stronger than anyone has ever seen before. It was agreed, a long time ago, and despite all of the fake rhetoric to the contrary – NO NUCLEAR WEAPONS and, the Strait of Hormuz WILL BE OPEN & SAFE. In the meantime our great Military is Loading Up and Resting, looking forward, actually, to its next Conquest. AMERICA IS BACK!
 
10 minutes ago

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 9 2026 3:53 utc | 680

@ karlof1 | Apr 9 2026 2:18 utc | 667 with the Pepe Escobar link….thanks
 
It is sad to see so many here not understanding the civilization war humanity is in and what parts China, Russia and Iran are playing in it.
The war is about public finance or private finance.  Humanity has had global private finance for centuries coming out of when Pope Bob and King Chuck types ran finance.
The name I have for global private finance is the God Of Mammon cult and the Epstein Class acolytes.  They are under challenge by China that has instantiated finance as a public utility and are sharing that concept with others.
As we have seen the God Of Mammon cult has tried to control China by taking over Russia through the Ukraine proxy and that effort is failing so they set off the penultimate proxy war with Occupied Palestine as the point of the spear at Iran that has has public finance since taking the country back from the God Of Mammon cult in 1979.
 
Those that don’t think that China and Russia are aligned with and supporting Iran I believe are wrong.
The God Of Mammon cult would have used nukes on Iran by now if it were not for China/Russia nuclear umbrella, IMO
 
The point that hit me watching the latest Lego TACO video is that if/when all oil production in the ME is compromised or destroyed Iran will get priority rebuilding from China and Russia and the God Of Mammon countries that have no manufacturing capabilities will have to wait in line for China to help them out…..I suspect that waiting in a Depression line by millions in the West will sharpen the understanding about the downside to the God Of Mammon cult and they will be “deprecated” and maybe even they and their Epstein Class acolytes will be prosecuted for war crimes, as they should, by the winners…..the same ones that write history.
 
Another nail in the God Of Mammon coffin is coming when Trump goes to China and learns that they will not be able to buy rare earths that can be used in weapons against China/Russia/Iran and knows it will take as much as a decade to develop their own rare earth sources and production capabilities at scale.
 
It is a civilization war and the ME will never look the same with Occupied Palestine gone along with the GCC tinpot dicktators….stay tuned, the next round is about to begin.
 
 

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 9 2026 3:54 utc | 681

Trump is talking about a earlier 15 points that Saudi and Pakistan put out.

Iran is talking about their own real 10 points plan which by itself means the end of the evil empire.

Iran’s commitment not to build nuclear weapons

Provisions paving the way for a complete cessation of any aggression against Iran and allied groups

Possible withdrawal of US combat forces from the region and a ban on any attacks on Iran from regional bases

Limited daily passage of ships through the Strait of Hormuz for two weeks, under a Safe Passage Protocol provision and specific rules of Iran.

Lifting of all primary, secondary and UN sanctions against Iran

Covering Iran’s losses from the war by creating an investment and financial fund for the country

Acceptance by the US of Iran’s right to enrich nuclear materials and discussion on the level of enrichment

Permission for Iran to negotiate bilateral and multilateral peace treaties with regional countries

Extension of the non-aggression policy towards all resistance groups in the region

Ratification of all commitments through an official United Nations resolution

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 9 2026 3:54 utc | 682

Thanks for your reply Woke, the fog of war is very thick at MoA.
 
Control the information, Control the masses. Wrong think is unacceptable. 
 

  • We have either individuals or groups instigating narratives and always questioning the motives of Governments in countries that resist the Hegemon.

 

  • Whataboutism and Deflection are also tools employed, with weasel sounding/verbose speil and when all else fails?

 

  • Pull the I’m an African/Jew/Muslim/ABCDEFGTQZ card. Emotional Manipulation. 

 
Go back to post 1 and start reading again this thread, now who here has engaged in all 3?
 
There’s more than a few.

Posted by: Suresh | Apr 9 2026 3:55 utc | 683

Posted by: Konami | Apr 9 2026 0:19 utc | 603
 
Citizens of “Israel”, whether brainwashed with hatred of Palestinians (and Christians not just Muslims) from the crib or not, are some of the most terrible people on the planet. There is a tiny minority who believe in either a single state full-rights solution or a two state solution, but poll after poll demonstrate that the majority are bigoted genocidal maniacs full of hatred and lies. Bibi the war and common criminal is leading in polls as we speak and after having committed a genocide and plunged the country into existential war to save his own skin and to eliminate Iran. 
 
And nobody in “Israel” wants to be a freier.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 9 2026 3:57 utc | 684

so many wiscos, and not enough time for them all.. 
 
@ karl… thanks for the pepe link… i like his colourful language – the Baboon of Barbaria, the three stooges, and etc. etc… it makes a depressing read more humourous.. 
 
@ Yeah, Right | Apr 9 2026 3:28 utc | 706
 
thanks for this post.. i would like to know if it is indeed true, as i am not an american, and don’t know.. 

Posted by: james | Apr 9 2026 4:00 utc | 685

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 9 2026 3:57 utc | 723 who I hope does not rise to the troll bait tonight, please and thank you

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 9 2026 4:01 utc | 686

And nobody in “Israel” wants to be a freier.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 9 2026 3:57 utc | 723
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Dang it, Tom; you’re more of a Jew than I am.
Another word I had to look up there. = “sucker”.
 
Any more Hebrew (or Yiddish) you want to throw out so I can further expand my vocabulary?

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Apr 9 2026 4:01 utc | 687

Flattering to know that my eminence precedes me in the minds of several people here, including ‘regular’ commenters and sockpuppets alike. 
 
“pilpul” is a “Jewish” thing as it’s a “Hebrew” word. The rough equivalent in the rest of the English speaking world is “casuist” and in addition to the unasked for but continual gossip and chronicling of the exploits of apparent eminences such as myself, the same sockpuppets (and some regulars) to which I refer are routine casuists. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 9 2026 4:01 utc | 688

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Apr 9 2026 4:01 utc | 727
 
No, probably not. I’m sure you already know what “hasbara” is but here’s a fun article on “being a sucker (freier)” in “Israel” from the LA Times. 
 
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-jul-25-mn-16208-story.html

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 9 2026 4:02 utc | 689

signing off for the night..  have fun!

Posted by: james | Apr 9 2026 4:03 utc | 690

I hope does not rise to the troll bait tonight, please and thank you
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 9 2026 4:01 utc | 726
 
Nah I’m bored of it. I’ll participate in a normal conversation, but have no interest in these little spats anymore, and while I suspect we are still in the midst of Wisco, if he can behave himself and keep the third party references and baiting attempts to a minimum – and focus on relevant conversation, I couldn’t care less. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 9 2026 4:04 utc | 691

“Trump has just posted to TruthSocial that the 10-point plan that was published by the New York Times is fake, a hoax…”
 From this, and from what Vance was quoted saying earlier it sounds like Trump and his top people were/are confused about the difference between what actual negotiators actually tell them, as opposed to stuff on the internet.
 
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Apr 9 2026 3:36 utc | 709

 
Not “confused”… they are creating volatility for profitable insider trading. Pump ‘n Dump baby!!! Abort ‘n Short!!

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Apr 9 2026 4:05 utc | 692

Jewess Abby Martin‘s latest a 10 minute exposé 
 
Israelis are Worse than you can Imagine
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hLQbPCvV8W8&ra=m

Posted by: Exile | Apr 9 2026 4:07 utc | 693

In the meantime our great Military is Loading Up and Resting, looking forward, actually, to its next Conquest. AMERICA IS BACK! 
Donald Jihadi Trump al Newyorki

Trump has mentioned Greenland like 10 times for the first time in the last 2 days and threatened to invade Greenland yesterday.
 
The last word “NEXT CONQUEST” Did Trump call off Cuban Invasion to hit Greenland before Cuba ?
 

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 9 2026 4:08 utc | 694

Posted by: Exile | Apr 9 2026 4:07 utc | 733
 
Abby Martin is awesome. I take her and Norm Finkelstein’s word over anyone defending “Israel” and “Israelis”, no matter their “credentials” – Max Blumenthal, Alon Mizrahi, Aaron Mate, etc. The list goes on of Jewish non-“Israeli” voices calling out the psychopathy of these evil, brainwashed genocidal freaks. They cannot be gotten through to. It takes a lot of deprogramming to free any person from the mental grasp of a ‘standard’ cult or cult-of-personality, but most “Israelis” are beyond hope. And here in the west, they want to control the minds of our young people, but especially young Jewish people. Which is why they wanted control of TikTok so badly and to pass the laws codifying the IHRA’s “working definition of antisemitism” in the US, Australia, EU and UK. 
I recommend anyone who doubts any of the above to watch the Abby Martin video posted by Exile. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 9 2026 4:17 utc | 695

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Apr 9 2026 4:01 utc | 727 No, probably not. I’m sure you already know what “hasbara” is but here’s a fun article on “being a sucker (freier)” in “Israel” from the LA Times.  https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-jul-25-mn-16208-story.html
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 9 2026 4:02 utc | 729
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Paywalled (article published in 1997!). Archived here: https://archive.ph/CtemK
 
Make one love them Israelis even more.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Apr 9 2026 4:20 utc | 696

Konami 603
 
‘It is really important to distinguish between Jews, Zionists, citizens of Israel and leadership of Israel. All parts of the Axis of Resistance (Iran, Hezbollah, Ansar Allah etc.) do so.’
 
That’s up to the Shi’a,  whose understanding of our religion is based on historical events , not mentioned in the Qur’an. And those distortions were introduced by Jews who wanted to change the teachings of Islam to make the leadership of Islam  hereditary and dynastical.
 
The pious Jews are mentioned in the Qur’an, to draw those pious people into the truth of Islam, not to suggest that they are a viable alternative to Islam, remaining in Judaism.
 
The ” Sunni ” Wahabis, are dynastical  while the “Sunni ” Muslim Brotherhood are Masonic. 
 
The Viking , Norsenen British Royalty took their faith system from Shi’a Islam and later from Masonry which is an offshoot of the worship of  Ba’al, Saturn.
 
So let’s be absolutely clear. Anybody who has not rejected the adulterated teachings that preceded the Qur’an and adopted the Qur’an as the only source of Divine Guidance, is a disbeliever.
 
The Shi’a say that the Qur’an is incomplete.
This Jewish-created dispute has enabled the Christians and Jews to Divide and Rule over Islam. 
 
When you are given a tool by Allah to distinguish your faith from disbelief,
you use it, because if you  don’t use it , you yourself will be misled.
 

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 9 2026 4:21 utc | 697

Apparently someone here doesn’t know what “appeal to authority” actually means.  It’s a type of logical fallacy often employed by people who can’t debate a topic on its merits and resort to saying “but ______ (insert name of “expert”) says so!” But I remain flattered that I am viewed through a lens that confers a level of eminence to me such that I have the power to make the owner of this (or any) blog censor or ban someone simply because I mentioned or criticize them.  I am also gratified and delighted (and a bit concerned) that my handle is so frequently invoked without any of my own prior input to a given thread – or having previously addressed the invoker of my handle by name – and that each of my comments seems to provoke 2, 3 4 and even 5 further unsolicited references to me. 🙂
 
Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 9 2026 4:25 utc | 698

If I remember correctly, 40 days was the mourning duration for the martyrdom of Khamenei.
 
Iranians knew Satanyahoo wouldn’t hold any ceasefire.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 9 2026 4:27 utc | 699

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Apr 9 2026 4:20 utc | 739
 
Interesting. You got a paywall? That’s the first time anyone has told me that. Maybe your IP address is in California or something? I have had that link bookmarked for a decade or so and I’ve never encountered a paywall. But thanks for letting me know. There must be some reason. 
 
And I’m sure you were being sarcastic at the end there, but let me see if I can find some newer stuff. There was a funny video some “Israeli” influencer girl put out just after Oct 7 I wanna say where she brought the “freier” concept up to the younger folks. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 9 2026 4:27 utc | 700

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