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April 8, 2026
War On Iran: – April Ceasefire – A Tick Tock Of Statements And Comments

Trump has chickened out from his threat of committing a genocide in Iran by agreeing to a ceasefire based on Iran’s 10 point declaration.

The war isn’t over.

Israel will do its best to sabotage the ceasefire by all means.

If Trump really wants to stop losing the war he had started on advice of Netanyahoo (archived) he will have to throw him under a bus.

The Secretary for War Crimes Pete Hegseth and others who had urged for the war will be made scapegoats for this defeat.

An attempt to tick-tock what happened:

Minutes before the launch of the genocide he had threatened Trump chickened out.

Arash Azisi: Direct talks between Ghalibaf and Vance in the last few hours made the ceasefire agreement possible — sources in Tehran tell me.

At 23:50 UTC the Foreign Prime Minister of Pakistan Shahbaz Sharif announced a ceasefire:

With the greatest humility, I am pleased to announce that the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America, along with their allies, have agreed to an immediate ceasefire everywhere including Lebanon and elsewhere, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

I warmly welcome the sagacious gesture and extend deepest gratitude to the leadership of both the countries and invite their delegations to Islamabad on Friday, 10th April 2026, to further negotiate for a conclusive agreement to settle all disputes. …

The original statement was probably written by someone else.

Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi issued a Statement on behalf of the Supreme National Security Council of the Islamic Republic of Iran

Trump conceded defeat:

Based on conversations with Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Field Marshal Asim Munir, of Pakistan, and wherein they requested that I hold off the destructive force being sent tonight to Iran, and subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks. This will be a double sided CEASEFIRE! The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives, and are very far along with a definitive Agreement concerning Longterm PEACE with Iran, and PEACE in the Middle East. We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated. On behalf of the United States of America, as President, and also representing the Countries of the Middle East, it is an Honor to have this Longterm problem close to resolution. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP
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The full statement by the Supreme National Security Council of IranPressTV write up.

Iran’s position has slightly softened. The 10 points Iran issued yesterday are slightly different from the 10 points now mentioned in the PressTV piece (Lebanon is now missing(?!) but lifting of ALL sanctions against Iran) (There also seem to be differences on enrichment in the Farsi and English versions of the latest 10 points issued.)

Nevertheless:

Poète dubitatif @evil_SDOC – 23:56 UTC · Apr 7, 2026

If this is it really, Trump will have saved face at a cost of strategic defeat to the US, because negotiations based on the Iranians’ 10 points, together with interim Iranian control of Hormuz for the duration of the cease fire definitely means Iran has won.

White House press statement:

This is a victory for the United States that President Trump and our incredible military made happen.
From the very beginning of Operation Epic Fury, President Trump estimated this would be a 4-6 week operation.
Thanks to the unbelievable capabilities of our warriors, we have achieved and exceeded our core military objectives in 38 days.
More on that tomorrow morning from @SecWar and Chairman Caine!
The success of our military created maximum leverage, allowing President Trump and the team to engage in tough negotiations that have now created an opening for a diplomatic solution and long-term peace.
Additionally, President Trump got the Strait of Hormuz reopened.
Never underestimate President Trump’s ability to successfully advance America’s interests and broker peace.

Sarcastic comment by AmCon’s Andrew Day:

The Strait of Hormuz was closed for 47 years by the Mad Mullahs of Iran. But tonight, Donald Trump opened it.

As very positive sign Trump reposted Araghchi’s statement on his Truth Social account.

Trump’s victory statement:

…Big money will be made. Iran can start the reconstruction process. We’ll be loading up with supplies of all kinds, and just “hangin’ around” in order to make sure that everything goes well. I feel confident that it will. Just like we are experiencing in the U.S., this could be the Golden Age of the Middle East!!!

Netanyahoo falsely claims that the ceasefire “does not include Lebanon”.

The opposition leader in Israel is furious about this defeat.

Various comments:
Mark Ames:

Trump’s insanely stupid & evil war ends in perhaps the most humiliating defeat in US history. …

Amal Saad:

The US didn’t agree to a ceasefire but acquiesced to a new balance of power. …

James Acton:

The U.S. acceptance of the Iranian proposal as a basis for negotiation is a *huge* concession. There is nothing about Iran’s nuclear program in there and it includes a toll for the Strait.
Obviously this is a starting point, not an end point, but it is unlikely the U.S. will achieve any of its strategic goals—which is the price we must pay, I guess, for absolutely terrible and horrific policy.

Chinahand:

my uninformed opinion is that usa/allies denying overflight/refueling to israeli planes is the key behind the scenes condition for iran agreeing to the ceasefire. iiuc israel still lacks the ability to strike iran without these facilities. if Trump genuinely wants to wind this thing down, Netanyahu will have to resort to some other provocation to try to keep the war going. IMO.

Gregg Carlstorm

Listen, it is indeed striking that Trump describes Iran’s ten-point proposal as a “workable basis” for talks, but stipulating that at the start does not bind you to anything at the end
If America walks in and says it wants to change “right to continued enrichment” to “zero enrichment”, then we’re right back where we were in February

Side note:

The war has (so far) lasted 40 days. That limit has religious importance in Judaism and Islam.

PS: Latest Iran Lego Movie: TACO Tuesday – How to defeat a hegemon

Comments
  1. Só, after all this USA will rebuild their bases from the scratch and with all the info obtained from the conflict.

I don’t know if the 10 points was that good to Iran.

Posted by: Zico the Musketeer | Apr 8 2026 11:06 utc | 101

The war isn’t over.

Posted by b on April 8, 2026 at 07:12 UTC
 
Certainly looks like it is continuing:

The truce did not last long: refineries in Iran were attacked

https://news-pravda.com/usa/2026/04/08/2222519.html

OK, how does this thing restart now?

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 8 2026 10:51 utc | 98
 
How does something restart when it hasn’t stopped?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 8 2026 11:06 utc | 102

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Apr 8 2026 8:22 utc | 21
 
Couldn’t agree more.

Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 8 2026 11:08 utc | 103

I stand by my private conspiracy theory that one goal was to unleash a second Great Depression. 
 
Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 10:50 utc | 96
 

 
You need to examine your theory a little more carefully.  The initial conditions for the Great Depression are nothing at all like what exists now.  Then the USA had a strong manufacturing base, new oil fields and was the undisputed leader in education and technology.  All of those assets have been spent and the goodwill they generated borrowed against.
 
The Great Depression was resolved by discounting the valuation of speculations.  No such resolution is available today.  A new foundation must be built from the ground up.  There is neither a conspiracy or a rescue in the works.
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2026 11:08 utc | 104

Bloody ridiculous.hat looked like an adult drama turns into a kiddies cartoon. The world of the pedophiles I guess.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 8 2026 11:10 utc | 105

Rather than doubling down on failure, Netanyahu should start negotiations with the Arabs using the Peking Declaration as the foundation. Israelis deserve a lasting and secure peace. The Likud strategy of facts-on-the-ground has brought only pain and suffering to Israelis. Time for the Likud to recognize failure and change its strategy. The Peking Declaration offers a way out.
Posted by: Exile | Apr 8 2026 7:54 utc | 9Delicious flamebait.Israelis can try to enjoy lasting and secure peace in their countries of origin, instead of in a foreign land they have been stealing and razing for 80 years. Given that they are either incapable or unwilling to share lasting, secure peace with either the non-jewish original inhabitants of that land, or with any of the surrounding neighbors.

Posted by: Arganthonios | Apr 8 2026 11:15 utc | 106

Reminder : the first two attacks against Iran took place during the height of negotiations… I wouldn’t rush to declare victory for either side.
 
But I would be extremely pleased to see the empire emerge weakened from this war.

Posted by: Tak-Tik | Apr 8 2026 11:18 utc | 107

Two more weeks of wack-a-mole?

  • In violation of the ceasefire, US-Israeli forces targeted the Lavan Oil Refinery on Lavan Island. At present, safety and firefighting teams are working to extinguish the flames and secure the area. ==> https://t.me/presstv/184425
  • Missile and drone attacks struck the UAE and Kuwait just hours after oil facilities on Iran’s Lavan Island were targeted. ==> https://t.me/presstv/184431

 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2026 11:18 utc | 108

Thanks for the posting b
 
Oil at $72
Gold at $4800
Market Dow futures up $1200
 
And a ceasefire that is not a ceasefire but millions to be made in the chaos market moves
 
The shit show will continue until the God Of Mammon cult and its Epstein Class acolytes are taken down for good.
 
Back to bed.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 8 2026 11:19 utc | 109

I stand by my private conspiracy theory that one goal was to unleash a second Great Depression.  Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 10:50 utc | 96

 
A Great Depression would be a way to depopulate (cull the herd of the useless eaters). We passed the conventional peak oil in 2008, and probably approaching the total peak oil (conventional + shale + canadian sands), hence the frenetic movements towards Venezuela and West Asia.
 
Less available energy per capita… let’s reduce the number of heads. In particular, the Epstein Class needs energy for all those (not-unionized) AI.
 
Europe (excluding Russia) will be the first to taste the Great Depression.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 8 2026 11:21 utc | 110

I think, behind the scenes, Israel was going to nuke Iran. Pakistan stepped in and said it would support Iran. That’s what enabled the ceasefire.The war will surely start again, when the US & Israel are ready.

Posted by: sirdavide | Apr 8 2026 11:21 utc | 111

Oil at $72
 
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 8 2026 11:19 utc | 110
 

 
Says $95 ==> https://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=CL&p=i15
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2026 11:22 utc | 112

The Pakistanis are double-faced US Vassals.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 8 2026 8:33 utc | 31
 
They are also illegitimate, Imran Khan is imprisoned illegally. 

Posted by: Menz | Apr 8 2026 11:24 utc | 113

Trump will resume the war in 15 days or even before, as he did during the previous negotiations. 
 
No hope to see reason come back (supposing there was any reason before).

Posted by: scc | Apr 8 2026 11:25 utc | 114

Oilprice.com has 94 for both Brent and WTI.

Posted by: Woke American | Apr 8 2026 11:27 utc | 115

Saying That Israel Dragged the US to War Isn’t Just Wrong—It’s Antisemitic

 
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/purims-uncomfortable-ending-what-do-we-do-with-the-bloodshed/
 
Shlomo Levin
 
Extract:

To some, the idea that this war is necessary for American self-defense seems so crazy that the only explanation they believe can possibly be true is that Israel pushed Trump into it and is somehow behind the whole thing.

 

After all, how can bombing a country halfway around the world that doesn’t even have intercontinental ballistic missiles be necessary to protect Americans? If this war protects anyone, it is Israel, not America.
 
And all the loss of lives and expense of this war is therefore only because Israel has somehow gotten the US to do this on its behalf.
But before jumping to conspiracy, remember who actually made the decision to send the US into this war: Donald Trump.

 
Extract: 

And there’s no question that in his mind, he is one hundred percent certain that this war is necessary to defend the United States.

 
Extract:
 

Classic Antisemitic Tropes
Claims that Jews or Israel are somehow pulling the strings and manipulating the US into the Iran war don’t arise in a vacuum.

 

They mirror longstanding patterns of antisemitism, in which Jews are portrayed as wielding hidden power, manipulating governments, and acting with dual loyalties.

 
 

This Iran war allegation would fit right in on the pages of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, as Jews meet around an imaginary table to plot their mischievous plans for global domination and to manipulate world powers.

 
 
About the Author
Shlomo Levin received Rabbinic ordination from the Israeli Chief Rabbinate and Yeshivat Hamivtar, and an M.A. in International Law and Human RIghts from the United Nations University for Peace in Costa Rica.
 
 

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 8 2026 11:28 utc | 116

A Great Depression would be a way to depopulate
 
Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 8 2026 11:21 utc | 111
 

 
There is a population overhang enticed by the overuse ammonia fertilizers and farming practices driven solely by the profit motive.  Additionally, excess population puts downward pressure on wages.
 
There is going to be a vicious snap-back in population size that defies management.  The plan has generally been to grow the population.  Shrinking the population is a foreseeable catastrophe and not a happy accident.
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2026 11:36 utc | 117

The ceasefire didn’t hold for more then several hours. The West attacked again. The ceasefire cannot hold,  the West would attack and attack, they will never stop. A good lesson for Russia.

Posted by: Sandy | Apr 8 2026 11:38 utc | 118

@unimperator | Apr 8 2026 8:57 utc | 38

Nima R. Alkhorshid: Iran-US Double Ceasefire: What Just Happened?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_YpJENeAOM

Recommended. I listened to this while walking in the spring sunshine. I think he has most things correct.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 8 2026 11:39 utc | 119

Israel will break the ceasefire in Lebanon with hours.

Posted by: Migmaw | Apr 8 2026 11:40 utc | 120

@Jo | Apr 8 2026 8:59 utc | 40

So is anyone in USA going to proceed with the 25th Amendment stuff?

If there is anyone serious left that has to happen immediately. But I really doubt it will.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 8 2026 11:42 utc | 121

@Melaleuca | Apr 8 2026 11:28 utc | 117
Shlomo Levin’s argument is invalid but the conclusion is correct
But Shlomo. like so many others of you in the comment section doesnt bother to read the US policy documents. If he had read them he would have known that the intention of blaming Israel for what the US wants done was spelled out explicitly in those guidelines for the US elites.
 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 8 2026 11:45 utc | 122

Israel will break the ceasefire in Lebanon with hours.
 
Posted by: Migmaw | Apr 8 2026 11:40 utc | 121
 

 
It has already happened.
 

The IDF says it completed the largest wave of strikes against Hezbollah infrastructure since the war, bombing more than 100 targets across the country, including Beirut
 
This is in direct violation of the ceasefire, which Lebanon is supposed to be a part of.
 
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/30625
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2026 11:46 utc | 123

So this is part of the ceasefire agreement.

🇺🇸 A country supplying weapons to Iran will be “hit with 50% tariffs”

🔴 @DDGeopolitics

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/181292

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 8 2026 11:47 utc | 124

Told you before Trump woke up today: 50% tarrif for any country that supplies Iran with “military weapons”
Russia and China are relieved now, Trump saved their propaganda from inventing reasons why Iran can’t get weapons from them.

Posted by: rk | Apr 8 2026 11:49 utc | 125

The aftermath of some of the IAF airstrikes on Beruit’s southern suburbs. ==> https://t.me/GeoPWatch/30873
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2026 11:50 utc | 126

Posted by: Leonardo | Apr 8 2026 8:27 utc | 24
 
Great questions, Leonardo.  Easier to have faith in a supreme deity than in the morals/values os Usreal. 

Posted by: spudski | Apr 8 2026 11:53 utc | 127

Sorry: “Great questions, Leonardo.  Easier to have faith in a supreme deity than in the morals/values of Usreal.” 

Posted by: spudski | Apr 8 2026 11:53 utc | 128

Israeli airstrikes launched intense bombardment on the Lebanese capital, Beirut, including its southern suburbs, resulting in a series of massacres.
 
Initial reports indicate at least 80 people were killed and more than 200 injured, as strikes hit densely populated areas.
 
https://t.me/QudsNen/218102
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2026 11:55 utc | 129

https://t.me/RezistanceTrench1/48170
 
🇮🇷⚡️IRGC 100th Wave of Operation True Promise 4 – List of Targets
Dedicated to Leader Khamenei.
Main targets hit:
Energy/Oil Facilities (Mostly U.S.-linked):1. Chevron facilities, Ras al-Juaymah, Saudi Arabia (largest NLG plant).2. ExxonMobil & Dow Chemical in Jubail, Saudi Arabia.3. U.S. oil facilities in Yanbu, Saudi Arabia (250k barrels/day).4. Habshan – Dubai-Fujairah oil pipeline (bypassing Strait of Hormuz).5. ExxonMobil in Ras Laffan, Qatar (146k bpd).6. Bapco, Bahrain (267k bpd).7. Das refinery, UAE (60k bpd).8. U.S. oil facilities in Fujairah (1 million m³ storage).9. Al-Ahmadi refinery, Kuwait (346k bpd).10. Dolphin Gas, Qatar (2 billion cubic feet/day export).11. Zir Kuh oil island (750k bpd).12. Satroop refinery (460k bpd).13. Manifa gas/oil separation (900k bpd).
Military & Other Targets:1. Defense tech centers in Beersheba (occupied Palestine).2. Intelligence centers in Azrael & Almas towers, Tel Aviv.3. U.S. Central Command at Al-Azraq, Jordan.4. Ben Gurion Airport, Jaffa.5. Haifa oil refinery (300k bpd).6. Government command complex in occupied capital.
Navy Strikes:1. Hit U.S. helicopter carrier LHA-7 (cruise missiles, retreated damaged).2. Hit U.S. aircraft carrier CVN-74 (drones, retreated damaged).3. Zionist drone factory in UAE.4. U.S. oil facilities & base in Kuwait.

 
Let’s see if this will be confirmed. Nice 2 minute ceasefire in any case.

Posted by: SOS | Apr 8 2026 11:58 utc | 130

@Melaleuca | Apr 8 2026 9:38 utc | 55

Anyone noticed there’s no press conference with the “rescued” pilot and wso?Posted by: Suresh | Apr 8 2026 9:07 utc | 45 Yep. I’ve very much noticed that.  And notice it more and more as the weekend fades.IMVHO TrumpTeamTrix is hoping everyone will move on and quickly forget about rescued pilots and other inconsistencies, / inconvenient questions

Seconded. There are layers of lies being pushed. I suspect there were quite a few US casualties in that burn-pit outside Isfahan.
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 8 2026 11:59 utc | 131

Apologies, F.. this stupid editor system that can’t even copy/paste a simple list

Posted by: SOS | Apr 8 2026 11:59 utc | 132

It is not possible to guess what a crazy person will do next. Even if you get inside his head and start thinking like he does, the crazy one has infinite options, you won’t guess his pick.
 
You cannot argue with a crazy person. The crazy one might be mildly amused by the exchange, it will have no effect at all on his actions. None.
 
You cannot negotiate with a crazy person. It only convinces them you are not taking action yet and they can continue to do whatever they wish while ignoring the negotiator.
 
The only part of this story that has much significance is an appearance (did it happen this way?) that Vance did this behind Trump’s back. Even if Trump is maneuvered out of the way the Americans are all crazy, Netanyahu is crazy, the Israelis are all barking mad.

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 8 2026 12:11 utc | 133

Two academics have penned a dismissive and censorious paper, failing to see any humour in the Iranian lego war memes.
They pridefully state they are the originators of a portmanteau “slopaganda” = slop and propaganda, to deride the Iranian lego vids.
 
They seem very perturbed the Iranian legos might actually work.
 
Quelle horreur
 
https://theconversation.com/slopaganda-wars-how-and-why-the-us-and-iran-are-flooding-the-zone-with-viral-ai-generated-noise-280024

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 8 2026 12:11 utc | 134

13.58 AEST

Israel says ceasefire does not include Lebanon
Israel supports Donald Trump’s decision to suspend strikes against Iran for two weeks, but said the ceasefire does not include Lebanon, prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office said on Wednesday.

 

The office said Israel backed the US move, provided Tehran immediately opens the strait of Hormuz and stops attacks against the United States, Israel and countries in the region.
The Pakistani prime minister, Shebaz Sharif, had previously said the ceasefire extended over Lebanon.

 

Israeli attacks on Lebanon since the start of the war have killed more than 1,400 people, including 126 children, and displaced more than 1 million, according to Lebanese authorities.

 

The renewed Israeli war on Lebanon was launched after Hezbollah – the Iranian-backed Lebanese militant group – fired rockets into northern Israel in response to the killing of the former Iranian supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, in joint US-Israeli airstrikes.

 

Israel also said it supports US efforts to ensure Iran no longer poses a nuclear, missile or “terror” threat to US, Israel and Iran’s Arab neighbours, adding that Washington had told Israel it was committed to achieving their shared goals in upcoming negotiations. 

From The Guardian.
 
{No one needs (or should ask for) a link to that mockslop } 
 
*****
I can portmanteau too.
 
mockingbird  + slop. 

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 8 2026 12:15 utc | 135

Posted by: SOS | Apr 8 2026 11:58 utc | 130
 
If these are the targets and hits for wave 100, a single wave, that’s truly astonishing. Those targets cause some heavy volume pain for USraeli.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 8 2026 12:17 utc | 136

The Guardian again [it’s not always necessary to shoot the messenger] 
 
19.24 AEST
IDF tells residents of southern suburbs of Beirut to flee after announcing continued combat and ground operations
The Israeli military told people in the southern suburbs of Beirut to flee, moments after announcing its forces are continuing “combat and ground operations” against Hezbollah.
In its third time it has told people in Lebanon to flee since the US-Iran ceasefire was announced, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) urged residents of seven Beirut neighbourhoods to flee their homes.
The order covers a large swathe of the Lebanese capital, where hundreds of thousands of people have already become displaced following repeated IDF warnings to leave the area.
“The IDF continues to operate and strike at military infrastructure belonging to the terrorist organisation Hezbollah across the southern suburbs,” the IDF Arabic-language spokesperson, Avichay Adraee, said on X.
“The IDF has no intention of harming you; therefore, for your own safety, you must evacuate immediately.”
The Israeli government said it accepts the two-week ceasefire agreement reached last night between the US and Iran, but that it does not include Lebanon, contrary to a statement by Pakistan. Hezbollah has yet to publicly announce its position.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 8 2026 12:19 utc | 137

There may be some relatively good news for the US :

  1. they don’t have universal health care but (after bombing so many hospitals) neither do the Iranians
  2. they have pedo, lousy and crap leaders, but (unlike the Iranian) US leaders are alive
  3. they produce blockbusters in pedHollywood while Iranians produce cheap Lego stuff
  4. they are gaining an expertise in blocked toilets
  5. no F-35 or F-15 has been captured alive
  6. destruction of military equipment is good for MIC business
  7. sinking Europe economically (with Ukraine and destruction of Qatar gas fields) destroys oil demand and makes oil cheaper for everyone else

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 8 2026 12:22 utc | 138

Hegseth just called Iran the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism.
How many terrorist attacks on the US has Iran launched?
None, I think. So what happened to ‘America first’? Same thing as happened to releasing all the Epstein files, I suppose.

Posted by: Dave G | Apr 8 2026 12:24 utc | 139

Iran can build only-Lord-knows-how-many drones and missiles in a week.
US can build maybe a dozen or two missiles in a month.
 USreal says they destroyed Iran’s facilities for making steel and for making rocket fuel. Iran may not be able to build any rockets at all. It all has to be underground or USreal will destroy it.

Posted by: Cheney | Apr 8 2026 12:25 utc | 140

reply to 116
Here we go again with the anti-semite trope.   Blame everyone else, oh, poor us, we’re so hated.
Didn’t Rubio almost explicitly admit that Israel pushed the US into war?  Trump’s decision? Yeah, backed up by possible Epstein threats and AIPAC controlled Congress. 
But lets consider:  if Trump scapegoats Netanyahu – maybe, maybe this ‘we didn’t do it’ excuse from Israel has some validity.  If he doesn’t, forget it – the US is bought and paid for by Israel and they wouldn’t dare. We shall see.

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 8 2026 12:26 utc | 141

DT starting amending the deal, apart from the 50% tariffs against re-arming iran (china?)
 
“The United States will work closely with Iran, which we have determined has gone through what will be a very productive Regime Change! There will be no enrichment of Uranium, and the United States will, working with Iran, dig up and remove all of the deeply buried (B-2 Bombers) Nuclear “Dust.” It is now, and has been, under very exacting Satellite Surveillance (Space Force!). Nothing has been touched from the date of attack. We are, and will be, talking Tariff and Sanctions relief with Iran. Many of the 15 points have already been been agreed to. Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. TRUMP”
 
I’d dare say the only agreed upon thing is that a 10 to 15 point list may finish the war, as for the specific content I’d say no agreement is possible.
 
Now, a ceasefire might be a good occasion to try a new insertion, if at first you don’t succeed , try and try again…
 
A nothing-burger with a side of fluffy clouds…
 
 

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 8 2026 12:26 utc | 142

2. Hit U.S. aircraft carrier CVN-74 (drones, retreated damaged).

 Let’s see if this will be confirmed. 
 
Posted by: SOS | Apr 8 2026 11:58 utc | 130
 
Lol, wut?
 

In early May 2021, the USS John C. Stennis (CVN -74)went into Newport News for her midlife Refuel and Complex Overhaul (RCOH). The overhaul is expected to be completed by October 2026.
https://nationalsecurityjournal.org/aircraft-carrier-uss-john-c-stennis-has-been-in-the-shipyard-for-5-5-years-its-still-not-ready-and-the-navy-is-at-war-with-iran/

 
Anyone got alist of the targets hit in Iran?
 
So far, the bombastic predictions of targets destroyed in Israel and the Gulf countries by Iran haven’t come to fruition.
 

  • All Gulf regimes intact with no regime changes
  • All Israel refineries and power plants operational with no shortages
  • All desalination plants in Israel operational
  • US bases in Gulf still operational and recently used for sorties and launches of ATACMS missiles through HIMARS systems against Iran. Judging by the satellite photos, only some hangars and buildings were destroyed, not whole bases.

 
If this peace deal goes through, who will become the iranian Delcy Rodriguez?

Posted by: pinche | Apr 8 2026 12:27 utc | 143

Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2026 11:08 utc | 104

You need to examine your theory a little more carefully.  The initial conditions for the Great Depression are nothing at all like what exists now.  Then the USA had a strong manufacturing base, new oil fields and was the undisputed leader in education and technology.  All of those assets have been spent and the goodwill they generated borrowed against.

All good points. My analogy is crude and shouldn’t really be mentioned in polite society. I am looking for a motive (behind US policies, say) that goes beyond stupidity, malice or greed (for the latter: Trump team/family siphoned part of the 42 billions war cost into private coffers). It’s a human strength and weakness to always look for patterns — there may be nothing here.
 
As you surely understood immediately, when I say “second Great Depression”, the train of thought is very simple: get world economy into a state of overall contraction, so that people don’t/can’t buy and industry won’t produce. The resulting agony leads to unhappiness, turmoil and war. That war can be big enough so that the resulting boom phase gets capitalism through another cycle. From a highly abstracted point of view, WW1 and WW2 can be seen in this light.
 
The industrial base in the USA is indeed missing. There have been efforts to remedy that, like Biden’s IRA act and Trump’s tariffs. No idea if that has a chance to work but I could phrase these measures is as preparation before USA schedules a Great Depression. At least yet another economical bubble (this time: “AI”) is ready to burst!
 
* * *
 
Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 8 2026 11:21 utc | 110
 

A Great Depression would be a way to depopulate (cull the herd of the useless eaters).
Europe (excluding Russia) will be the first to taste the Great Depression.

I know about the depopulation theory (Club of Rome, long eugenics traditions, Harari & transhumanism) but I don’t know what to think of it. I fully agree with your final statement: EUrope is fucked. In principle, there would be a way out by undoing Russophobia (and some minor, Eastern countries may be able to do that) but the current elites cannot do that and a new generation of elites may come too late. That also implies that inner-European war is entirely possible in the mid and long term.
 
Thank you both for the replies to my silly private conspiracy theory.

Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 12:28 utc | 144

Hegseth and Caine streaming right now. They sound desperate to sell this as a success.

Posted by: SOS | Apr 8 2026 12:29 utc | 145

Berletic says it is just a pause for the UsA to reorder its next attack.

Israel will be used as an excuse to run a nuke attack, or attack to scuttle the peace process to resume attacking Russia, China, Iran and multipolarism.

I look at this “ceasefire” market manipulation of oil, etc and see US bond rates and oil drop to allow USA to continue the war without a 2008 finance crisis and to increase the military budget with the Dems.

If Trump is bounced out of the Presidency the next Dem or Repub will continue the war. The media is pleading for a Dick Cheney or a Biden to run the war. All the Dems want a war with Iran, Russia, China but a non Trump war.

Probably more tanker piracy by the USA/Nato soon during the “peace”.

Posted by: jonny law | Apr 8 2026 12:32 utc | 146

The Guardian:
 

HMS Dragon docks in eastern Mediterranean after problems with water systems
Royal Navy type 45 destroyer deployed to reinforce security around RAF base in Cyprus to undergo short maintenance stop, says MoD

 
 

HMS Dragon has docked in the eastern Mediterranean after suffering technical problems with its water systems.

 
 

An MoD source said on Sunday that reports of a Royal Navy vessel in the Mediterranean being struck by Hezbollah missiles were fake.

 

Rumour spread on social media over Easter that a British warship had sustained damage after being struck by the Lebanese militant group, with claims they had mistaken it for an Israeli vessel. But an MoD source said the claims were not true.

 
 
~~~~~
Well, there you have it, folks.
It’s been officially denied. 
And barflies know what that means………… 💥

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 8 2026 12:33 utc | 147

Hopefully someone can go through Hegseth self congratulatory delusional false heroic  verbage  on TV just now????

Posted by: Jo | Apr 8 2026 12:38 utc | 148

What credibility and what guarantees does Iran have that this will not be just the usual US/Israel ploy to take a breath, rearm and then begin a new round of attacks meant to wear down the iranian cohesion little by little and lead it to the Syrian destiny?
Posted by: Leonardo | Apr 8 2026 8:27 utc | 24
That’s the point. Washington is not agreement capable, right? Otherwise Iran is just offering the off-ramp Trump needed after the bloody nose suffered on Easter week end.
 
Let say that Mars, the month of war, has ended, hopefully with a stronger Ira , and a still functional BRICS.

Posted by: Richard L | Apr 8 2026 12:38 utc | 149

USA still wants expects the uranium.

Posted by: Jo | Apr 8 2026 12:40 utc | 150

Saudi Arabia’s East-West oil pipeline has been hit in a drone attack and the damage is being assessed. ==> https://t.me/thewarreporter/17871

 
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2026 12:41 utc | 151

@Melaleuca | Apr 8 2026 12:11 utc | 134

Two academics have penned a dismissive and censorious paper, failing to see any humour in the Iranian lego war memes.

LOL. That is quite funny.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 8 2026 12:41 utc | 152

Iran won this ‘war’ hands down……
– heavily damaged the USS Gerald R. Ford and HMS Dragon with anti ship missiles
– destroyed or heavily damaged dozens of US and IDF aircraft
– preserved its right to toll the Straits of Hormusz and effectively shut the straits to all hostile forces
– demanded a ceasefire in Lebanon
– heavily damaged Tel Aviv (Lod), Haifa and Dimona, and Eilat
– heavily damaged the Gulf State allies of Israel
– heavily damaged all US bases in the Gulf and Iraq
Massive win for Iran………..

Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 8 2026 12:42 utc | 153

and defeated the attempt by the US and the IDF to capture its enriched uranium stocks……

Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 8 2026 12:43 utc | 154

Who in the USN will be indicted for the cruise missile strike on the Minah girls elementary school that massacred 165 girls ?
 
Asking for a friend!

Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 8 2026 12:47 utc | 155

How Trump Took the U.S. to War With Iran
In a series of Situation Room meetings, President Trump weighed his instincts against the deep concerns of his vice president and a pessimistic intelligence assessment. Here’s the inside story of how he made the fateful decision.
 
 
April 7, 2026
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-war.html
 
 
At a secret Feb. 11 Situation Room meeting, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu presented a four-part pitch for regime change, including a video montage of potential replacement leaders such as Reza Pahlavi. JD Vance was absent, stuck in Azerbaijan.
 
>Appearing alongside Mossad chief David Barnea and military officials, Netanyahu argued: Iran’s ballistic missile program could be destroyed in weeks. The regime would be too weak to close the Strait of Hormuz.
 
 
Street protests — fomented with Mossad help — could trigger an uprising. Kurdish fighters from Iraq could open a ground front in the northwest. Trump’s response: “Sounds good to me.”
 
>The next day, U.S. intelligence pushed back sharply. CIA Director John Ratcliffe called the regime-change scenario “farcical,” with Secretary of State Marco Rubio adding: “In other words, it’s bullshit.” Gen. Dan Caine told the president:
 
“This is, in my experience, standard operating procedure for the Israelis.
 
They oversell, and their plans are not always well-developed.”
 
 
>Trump dismissed regime change as “their problem” — but remained focused on targeting Iran’s leadership and military.
 
 
>By Feb. 26, in a final Situation Room meeting, opposition inside the room was clear but fractured.
Vice President JD Vance warned the war could spiral and drain U.S. resources, but ultimately said: “You know I think this is a bad idea… but I’ll support you.”
 
 
>Rubio said regime change was unrealistic, but destroying Iran’s missile program was achievable.
 
 
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth was the biggest proponent of war and backed immediate action.
Military leadership outlined risks, including depleted munitions and the threat to Hormuz, but all stopped short of opposing the plan.
 
 
>Key officials responsible for managing the fallout, like the Treasury Secretary, {curiously unnamed !!!} and DNI Gabbard were notably absent.
 
 
Trump went around the table asking advisors their view, then made the call: “I think we need to do it.” The strikes began two days later.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 8 2026 12:48 utc | 156

apart from the 50% tariffs against re-arming iran (china?) 
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 8 2026 12:26 utc | 142
 
Mostly for China but not only China, it’s for everyone. It does not have to be real either. It’s also for Russia. The business with Russia is going well. Since Anchorage even the dollar trade has resumed at the Russian stock exchange but only for selected people. Add that to the announced plans for technology transfer to US for the Arctic, the icebreakers or the American investors invited to Donbass and so on. 
Russia recently signed a contract to deliver manpads. None has been sent yet, of course. They also promised airplanes long time ago but only a few training toys were sent. You think Putin will lose all those sweet dollar deals with US for Iran when they can freely pass the Hormuz? and if they don’t, the UNSC military action will see unanimous votes.

Posted by: rk | Apr 8 2026 12:49 utc | 157

People still haven’t figured Trump out, clueless guessing, bad analysis.
 
A.  The raid was planned from last year, even earlier.  The ‘final execution day’ was agreed to with heavy reluctance from the US military, due to high probability of failure.
 
B. Whether it failed or succeeded (Trumpy tard, and Hegseth gambled), that would be used as a ‘tool’ by the US to end the conflict, or at least extract themselves, a pre-staged off ramp.
 
C. Trumpy tards outbursts of blind rage throughout yo-yo performance was part of the act (think Zelensky on steroids).
 
Whatever the case, Iran paid a heavy price, so did Israel (destruction will be revealed) and the GCC.  USA was ultimately brought to its knees.

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 8 2026 12:50 utc | 158

The only obvious positive as far as Iran agreeing to ceasefire that comes to mind is that it appears rational/reasonable internationally in terms of allowing any possible diplomacy an opportunity for some kind of resolution. In practical terms, this translates as to being able to air grievance and underline US excesses. Trouble is, this is known already by anyone who cares to know, the rest don’t care, and it is also known that those strongly opposing US will view ceasefire as a compromise of position allowing advantages to US and so sowing division in own standing; which is part of the weakening and dilution of position US looks for.

A trade off of positions so, maybe. Iran also might have reasons to prolong and clarify the scope of the conflict, to clearly define european or Russian and Chinese positions for example.

As stands however, in terms of ground based continuation of hostility, it appears to be providing US and “Israel” with some ability to take new initiatives.

For up to date more reliable coverage these need no Telegram account for preview linked, but need translate for those not reading Arabic (if page translate fails, Babel browser or Firefox Immersive Translate extension work):

https://t.me/s/Sohaibpress

for close concise coverage.

https://t.me/s/youseffares19

from Palestine and with attention to Iran and Lebanon.

https://t.me/s/Military_Security

for local analysis.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 8 2026 12:55 utc | 159

EUrope is fucked. (…) That also implies that inner-European war is entirely possible in the mid and long term(…)
Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 12:28 utc | 144

 
The EU is sitting at the poker table and doesn’t know who is the patsy.
 
European wars are regular occurrences but usually require territorial disputes. Some rerun of Poland vs Germany? Or Germany vs Russia for Kaliningrad? I doubt that European young generations will follow orders from boomers who gave them such a shitty society.
And they have been raised with man/woman equality principles, and now only men will suffer conscription? To go to the Eastern front after millions of Ukrainians have been slaughtered? I doubt.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 8 2026 12:56 utc | 160

b posted at top:  Israel will do its best to sabotage the ceasefire by all means.   He (Trump) will have to throw him under the bus. (Bibi.)
 
Yes. Plus, afaik, Isr. is not a party to the present very shaky agreement (re Iran.) The alliance between US_ISR is of a symbiotic or a reciprocal dom/servant nature (like gangs, Mafias, etc.) and not a formal defense pact between two countries. 
 
So the attacks on Iran are a strange almalgam of USA – ISR aims with some egging them on as they hope / expect / etc. them to win, see some Gulfies, EU vassals, etc. 
 
Imho —  The USA cannot maintain any stable, solid, consequent power on the world stage, without jettisoning, giving up support for, abandoning, or even more, squashing, Ukro-Nazis (Zelensky etc.), Zionists (Bibi, etc.) and the covert US Foreign Legion, called the Mujahideen, Al Quaeda, Al Nusra, now blatantly on display with Al Golani President of Syria. 
 
The Message:  Paying for proxy forces is over, and Iran is hammering (sic) that home.  Note that Trump (and Rubio in some declarations) were all in on ‘a multipolar world’ where the US would control ‘near geographical areas’ (Recall, taking over Greenland, Canada..) giving up on ‘far off’ control, conquest.
 
 

Posted by: Noirette | Apr 8 2026 12:57 utc | 161

Trump will not attack Iran again.  
 
He is now claiming ‘victory’, attacking Iran again would destroy his message.  He can now claim to lower gas, diesel and ng prices too (even though his actions raised them in the first place), but this none the less fits his rhetorical flourish……..
 
Its all in the art of the deal…………..

Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 8 2026 13:02 utc | 162

Israelis deserve a lasting and secure peace. 
 
Posted by: Exile | Apr 8 2026 7:54 utc | 9

 
NO, THEY DON’T.
 
The few decent ones deserve citizenship in a free Palestine. The rest can leave, or face justice.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 8 2026 13:02 utc | 163

💢 Mediator Pakistan PM Shehbaz Sharif stated that the ceasefire was “everywhere including Lebanon and elsewhere, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY” in his official statementHowever the Israeli PM’s office unilaterally declared that “the two-weeks ceasefire does not include Lebanon” and the IDF stated it “is continuing to conduct targeted ground operations against Hezbollah.”Iran, in their 10-point proposal (#8), also made it clear that the ceasefire must extend to Lebanon.This move can only be seen as a deliberate breach of agreement and attempted provocation by the Israelis.Subscribe @NewResistance

Posted by: Jo | Apr 8 2026 13:04 utc | 164

b posted at top:  Israel will do its best to sabotage the ceasefire by all means.   He (Trump) will have to throw him under the bus. (Bibi.)
 
Posted by: Noirette | Apr 8 2026 12:57 utc | 161
 

 

The heaviest bombardment Beirut has experienced since 1982  ==> https://t.me/AhmadDarawsheh/40228

 
Trump is powerless.  His presidency is revealed to the world as a hollow sham.
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2026 13:05 utc | 165

I stand by my private conspiracy theory that one goal was to unleash a second Great Depression.  Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 10:50 utc | 96

 
I think you’re right and it’s also consistent with what @ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang wrote yesterday: By destroying everything, the US can cancel their debt. (Apologies to Jeremy if that’s not exactly what he said, at least that was what I got out of it and nuances may have been missed…) 
 

Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 8 2026 13:07 utc | 166

So is anyone in USA going to proceed with the 25th Amendment stuff
 
Posted by: Jo | Apr 8 2026 8:59 utc | 40

 
The 25th Amendment was formulated in precisely such a way as to make its actual use impossible.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 8 2026 13:07 utc | 167

By destroying everything, the US can cancel their debt. 
 
Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 8 2026 13:07 utc | 166
 

 
That seems like a lot of extra work as compared to declining to redeem their outstanding bonds/bills/notes.
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2026 13:10 utc | 168

IMO,  nobody should be taking this two weeks seriously.
It’s friggin weeks.  If it even lasts that long.
If it morphs into Israeli containment,  fine.
Iran clearly still has upper hand.
 I just consider it a break in the battle.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2026 13:10 utc | 169

Just checked on flightradar24: There are several US tanker planes over Tel Aviv and along the Saudi-Iraq border, as if the ceasefire were not in force.
 
Posted by: cb66 | Apr 8 2026 10:36 utc | 87

 
I wouldn’t be surprised if the USA abrogated the ceasefire shortly after the close of the markets this coming Friday.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 8 2026 13:16 utc | 170

Two points.
1. Seems Iran launched two AD interceptors at the aircraft flying over Iran with an EW aircraft providing protection and it seems Iran managed to shoot down one US aircraft. Compared to U.S. AD interceptors, that seems pretty good going. Mass raids over Iran could have resulted in far more search and rescue operations over Iran than the U.S, military has the resources to deal with.
2. Germany in World War One achieved a position where it was no longer able to effectively conduct military operations so Hindenburg and Ludendorff came up with a cunning plan. Beg great Britain and France for an armistice with the intention of re-building and re-arming the Germany army so it could go back to war sooner rather than later. I don’t think AH’s tours in 1939, 1940 and 1941 were part of that plan. The interesting point is that although Germany had clearly lost WW!, you still get GHermans who deny that Germany lost WW1. With careful packaging and typical American forgetfulness, I’m sure this strategic defeat for the United States can be dressed up as a victory for the United States just as Germany’s strategic defeat in WW1 was dressed up as not-a-defeat

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 8 2026 13:18 utc | 171

BREAKING:
 
It is now confirmed that the UAE Air Force has conducted a large-scale operation targeting Iran’s oil and petrochemical plants in the Persian Gulf region. They have bombed refineries on the islands of Siri and Lavan and targeted multiple other petrochemical facilities using not only Wing Loong 2 armed drones, but also Mirage 2000-9 EAD fighter jets. Operations are ongoing, with reports that Emirati aircraft have also flown over southern Iran.

https://x.com/BabakTaghvaee1/status/2041821664942395859

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 8 2026 13:22 utc | 172

But not everyone sees Iran as winning though. Twitter warrior Medvedev is not happy that US agreed to a temporary ceasefire with Iran but not with Russia. Somehow this also showed him how bad the EU is, for some reason (because they did not attack Iran?):
 t.me/medvedev_telegram/
Posted by: rk | Apr 8 2026 9:41 utc | 57
 
That’s…. quite an imaginative interpretation that you’ve come up with. As someone who doesn’t see everything in anti Russian lenses, his statement is clearly suggesting Israel will continue to attack so the conflict will continue. The European remark is referencing von de Leyen (who is a frequent target of his mockery), will have to get used to high gas prices.
 
If anything he is giving the Iranians more credit than they’re due, trying to spin it positively for Iran as if they didnt just 180 themselves from their positions a few days ago.

Posted by: MLP | Apr 8 2026 13:24 utc | 173

For updated Lebanon events & current today report:
 
”Laith Marouf: Hezbollah’s Position on US-Iran Ceasefire: What You’re Not Being Told”
 
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BFuQLWAgCkI&ra=m

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2026 13:25 utc | 174

Israel continues its bombing campaign in Lebanon
 
Iran threatens to break the ceasefire… The Iranian ambassador to the United Nations in Geneva:
Israel must adhere to the ceasefire in Lebanon, and continued attacks will further complicate the situation and have devastating consequences.

Posted by: Genesis | Apr 8 2026 13:26 utc | 175

@ unimperator | Apr 8 2026 13:22 utc | 172
 
Even with a so-called ceasefire, obliterating the UAE remains a moral imperative.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 8 2026 13:28 utc | 176

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 8 2026 12:56 utc | 160

European wars are regular occurrences but usually require territorial disputes. Some rerun of Poland vs Germany? Or Germany vs Russia for Kaliningrad?

I always thought that any population can be drummed up for war given enough time and money. You probably know the famous Himmler quote where he describes exactly this. Since Covid, I believe that not much time is needed, two years suffice given sufficient propaganda strength. Look what they’ve done to the brains of Finns and Swedes!
 
Any war needs a good motivation why “we’re attacked” and “they are evil”. This is easily manufactured: you can play on previous grievances (like Germany-Poland, or many options on the Balkans) but also conjure something from thin air. Recall how neighbours in Yugoslavia turned at each other after 40 years of peaceful coexistence: a mixture of nationalism and religion. Almost the entire EU supported the 1999 attack on Yugoslavia (Serbia) and they gave people the usual reasons: “Milosevich is building concentration camps” (i.e. he is second Hitler), “they’re raping all the Bosnian women and girls”, it’s pretty much the same every time.
 
Since Ukraine 2022, wars aren’t fought in the old style. But, and that’s the main point, massive destruction is still being dished out. I don’t expect a full EU vs. Russia war, there’s so much to lose and nothing to win. I can see sacrificing Estonia to keep up pressure in EUrope. The pinpricks against Russia will never stop and they rely on Russia acting rationally.

I doubt that European young generations will follow orders from boomers who gave them such a shitty society.And they have been raised with man/woman equality principles, and now only men will suffer conscription? To go to the Eastern front after millions of Ukrainians have been slaughtered? I doubt.

Yes, I agree: hard to contemplate. But Corona 2020 was proof it can be done. (One point: especially young people found unity and purpose in the common fight against the virus.) You just have to drill the enemy image into your population forcefully enough. Recall how before 1914, the major French and German unions agreed to not let each other get wasted in the capitalists’ war. When the time came, exactly that happened: appeal to pride, honor, nation, valor and so on … lotsa reasons to die on the battlefield for crown/Vaterland/whatever.

Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 13:30 utc | 177

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 8 2026 13:22 utc | 172
 
So the US just outsourced their bombing to the UAE! Wow, typical Trump smartness. However, I think it will be noticed by the relevant forces.

Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 8 2026 13:30 utc | 178

So here we are morning after. Taco is saying Iran agreed to 15pt plan and Iran saying taco agreed to 10pt plan. There also seems to be 2 10pt plans in circulation one hardline, one toned down. I am not sure why anyone is claim victory. 2 weeks is enough time to get more assets in place and ships reloaded since it takes about 2 weeks to go reload and comeback. Either Iran is hurting more than they let on or they are still suckers. Im thinking its the latter since they are allowing witkoff and kushner to be the negotiators again. 

Posted by: Feck | Apr 8 2026 13:32 utc | 179

Responding to me,
 
Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2026 13:05 utc | 16
 
“Trump is powerless.  His presidency is revealed to the world as a hollow sham.”  
 
Yes, I agree, overall.  But then, how do States, Big Corps, Int’l Orgs, Coalitions, and so on react to that (for now)?  
 
They bow down and are subservient as per usual.  They are afraid to ‘break away’, terrified of going up against the US-Isr-Ukr nexus. Many dams have to break, flood, burst, and overwhelm, before major changes will occur. 
 

Posted by: Noirette | Apr 8 2026 13:33 utc | 180

Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 13:30 utc | 177
 
Again, I think you’re right and I really admire your insight and competence.

Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 8 2026 13:34 utc | 181

By destroying everything, the US can cancel their debt.  Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 8 2026 13:07 utc | 166

The US debt is in USD. As, since 1973, the USD is not convertible in gold, the FED can create as much USD as it sees fit, and lend it to the US Treasury at the rate agreed, and voilà. No default.
 
The only countries that can default on their debt are the countries whose debt are not in the national currency (usually borrowed in USD).
 
Technically, the US could mint 1800 nice nickel coins with “1 billion dollars” written on it, and pay back their 2026 debt. Or 39,000 coins and pay back the whole US federal debt.
 
The purpose of federal deficit is to justify federal debt to justify income tax to transfer wealth from the bottom 99% to the top 1%. Debt is slavery, without maintenance cost for the slave owners.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 8 2026 13:37 utc | 182

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 8 2026 13:22 utc | 172
 
Quite concerning. So Medvedev was on the money about continued attacks but instead of just Israel, you have these UAE lapdogs joining in the party too.
 

Posted by: MLP | Apr 8 2026 13:42 utc | 183

Israel has made some of its most intense attacks in Lebanon since the start of the operation, targeting more than 100 sites within 10 minutes across all Lebanon: Dahye, Beirut, Bekaa, the south, and Hermel.  The Israeli army has announced a new operation in Lebanon under the title “Eternal Darkness” and the Israeli Army Chief of Staff said: “We will continue to strike Hezbollah, without stopping.”
 
The Lebanese Red Cross reports that over 300 people have been martyred or wounded across Beirut and the Southern Suburb. Many victims remain trapped under the rubble.
 
Head of the Iranian Parliament’s National Security and Foreign Policy Committee:
‘After the Israeli aggression on Lebanon, all plans to open the Strait of Hormuz must immediately cease until there are assurances that Lebanon is included in the ceasefire.The brothers in Hezbollah have fought alongside us, given martyrs for the cause, and suffered enough oppression and hardship.There is either a ceasefire on all fronts, or a ceasefire nowhere at all.’
 
As b. said above, Israel is doing its best to undermine any peace agreement and to enlarge its Greater Israel project. 

Posted by: Belle | Apr 8 2026 13:44 utc | 184

Iran must deliver on promise to annihilate all UAE petrochemical, oil and gas producing plants.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 8 2026 13:44 utc | 185

Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 8 2026 13:34 utc | 181
 
Thank you! I’m trying to make sense of this world for thirty years. I know many reasonable people who phase out (don’t follow any news and just try to live a decent live) but I can’t. By the way, not sure if you saw this in another thread: through your comments, I started reading Kropotkin (Modern Science and Anarchy) — many thanks again!

Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 13:44 utc | 186

Posted by: MLP | Apr 8 2026 13:24 utc | 173
 
If my interpretation was so “imaginative” then why the twitter warrior keeps posting various clarifications since this morning? It must be that the PR team also had problems with the next former president’s strange message.
Anyway, if you look at Beirut or the Iranian refinery blown up this morning, the ceasefire will end very quickly.
Also Trump announced that he plans to create charge a fee for each ship passing thru Hormuz.

Posted by: rk | Apr 8 2026 13:46 utc | 187

tobias cole @155:

Who in the USN will be indicted for the cruise missile strike on the Minah girls elementary school that massacred 165 girls ?Asking for a friend!

 
Claude and Maven.
 
“It wasn’t us! The AI did it!”

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 8 2026 13:46 utc | 188

Israeli zios are fuming at the ~ceasefire~.
 
That’s a for certain clue to expect a
i)false flag,
  ii) outright brazen breach
 
Trump pal, Mark Levin:
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/2041698156371701814
 

“The people of Iran!! Are we going to just leave them there? There’s nothing we can do, and we’re going to wash our hands over that? That to me is morally very difficult to accept!”

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 8 2026 13:48 utc | 189

Stonebird 15
 
‘Why should anyone credibly support them (Israel) in an age that tries to hold onto civilisation, without losing all the advances made in human behavior and thought over the millienna?’
 
Every time any of us borrow a mortgage for a car or a house from the rabbinical interest moneylenders, we’re funding the rabbinical Cabbalists.
 
This fatwa against rabbinical interest is in  bold print in the Gospels and BOLDER in the Qur’an,  but very few Muslims or Muslim countries take any notice.
 
 

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 8 2026 13:49 utc | 190

Today

16:22

Rezaei: Either a ceasefire is implemented on all fronts, or there will be no ceasefire on any front

Today

16:22

Rezaei: The Lebanese have sacrificed their lives for our sake, and we must not leave them alone, not even for a moment

Today

16:21

Rezaei: A strong and decisive strike must be carried out to prevent the entity’s aggression against Lebanon

Today

16:21

Spokesperson for the Iranian Parliament’s National Security Committee, Ebrahim Rezaei: In response to the aggression against Lebanon, ship movement in the Strait of Hormuz must be stopped immediately

https://english.almayadeen.net/shortnews

Posted by: Wrath of Khan | Apr 8 2026 13:51 utc | 191

Trump announced that he plans to create charge a fee for each ship passing thru Hormuz.

Posted by: rk | Apr 8 2026 13:46 utc | 187
 
That’s hilarious, how he recognised  a grift opportunity he’d previously missed, and now wants to be cut in on “the deal”.
 
 

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 8 2026 13:52 utc | 192

IMO, the biggest threats by Iran are the non-Rothshit central bank (as stated by #16) and possibility of a nuclear weapon.                             I have read that in Libya while the ruins were still smoldering the Rothshit banker were establishing a central bank.
The petroyuan/petrodollar – the loss of the petrodollar being a debacle for the US, is, IMO, of no matter to the central bankers, BIS, World Bank, or IMF or any other financial institution controlled/owned by the Rothshits.
They will not tolerate loss of control of all money or being blown up – the rest is not a worry.

Posted by: a lurking reader | Apr 8 2026 13:54 utc | 193

Iran just shot down another Israeli Hermes 900 drone over Fars province.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 8 2026 13:55 utc | 194

US “ceasefire” in 404 : it’s not me , it’s the EU
 
US “ceasefire” in Iran : it’s not me , it’s GCC 
 
The problem with the US is the lack of imagination for plausible deniability… look at the colonial entity : they don’t care about nothing and will bomb the whole world. Resistance is futile and antiseptic … who needs plausible deniability ? 

Posted by: Savonarole | Apr 8 2026 13:56 utc | 195

If there where soldisers on the planes, how did the americans get their 200 soldiers out of iran after their plane was bombed. Are they still there? Maybe with motorbikes? Are they persian american/israelis commandos? Some few questions.
Or maybe:
Where are the weapons Trump sent to be used in the internal revolt they expected? Where they onboard the planes destructed?

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Apr 8 2026 13:57 utc | 196

If my interpretation was so “imaginative” then why the twitter warrior keeps posting various clarifications since this morning? It must be that the PR team also had problems with the next former president’s strange message.
Posted by: rk | Apr 8 2026 13:46 utc | 187
 
It literally went as Medvedev expected it’d go! You are lying at this point as the message you linked was the last message on the telegram feed and there were no “clarifications” afterwards.

Posted by: MLP | Apr 8 2026 13:59 utc | 197

Metallica 189
 
‘”That to me is morally very difficult to accept!”’
 
Did Adam and Eve join Satan in the Garden of Eden and complain against Allah’s “””””immoral / unfair “”””: eviction of them from Paradise?
No, they obeyed, and repented. And God accepted their repentance if they kept their promise to obey Him
 
The Jews have never repented of the arrogance and  savagery that got them sent to Babylon as slaves, and they rejected Jesus as and Muhammad saw, who were prophesied in their Holy scriptures.
 
Morality is not a Jewish concept. 
They have no respect for God.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 8 2026 14:03 utc | 198

MLP 197
 
rk is a scrote
He always talks  bxxxxxxs
 

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 8 2026 14:07 utc | 199

Posted by: Konami | Apr 8 2026 12:28 utc | 144

 
I am looking for a motive (behind US policies, say) that goes beyond stupidity, malice or greed (for the latter: Trump team/family siphoned part of the 42 billions war cost into private coffers). It’s a human strength and weakness to always look for patterns — there may be nothing here. 

Motive, it’s to initiate clean install. Misery will clean away progress of hundreds of years – especially those of human rights and englightenment. Of true liberalism and liberty. Of true message of Christ. After that, society runs on algorithms like X or Facebook. Some “have the bravery, to bring back slavery” as Cassetteboy made David Cameron to rap.

Posted by: js | Apr 8 2026 14:08 utc | 200

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