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April 26, 2026
Ukraine Open Thread 2026-085

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Posted by: The Busker | Apr 26 2026 14:36 utc | 1

Anyone (subscriber) cares to share S’s take (in a nutshell)?
 
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/ukraine-war-untangling-the-current
 
 
meamwhile 1.215 AFU casualties
 
https://tass.com/defense/2122601
 

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 26 2026 15:14 utc | 2

B? Cleanup on aisle 3 please 😉

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 26 2026 15:21 utc | 3

Official statement by the Russian Africa Corps:
 
Yesterday, at approximately 05:30 on 25 April 2026, the terrorist groupings “Azawad Liberation Front” and “Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb,” prepared by Western intelligence services, launched an attempted coup d’état in Mali with large-scale forces (some 10–12 thousand personnel).
 
Attempts were made to seize key facilities in the capital, first and foremost the presidential palace. In addition, the country’s major cities (Gao, Kidal, Kati, and Sévaré) were attacked with the aim of capturing municipal administration buildings. In the areas of the cities of Kidal and Gao, Ukrainian and European mercenaries operating in Africa took part in the assault on state facilities and units of the government forces, employing Western-pattern MANPADS of the “Stinger” and “Mistral” types.
 
Thanks to the courage and heroism of the servicemen of the Africa Corps of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, it was possible to prevent a “Syrian scenario” in Mali. The Africa Corps held all significant positions and airfields, as well as the national arsenal in the city of Kati.
 
Through the skilful actions of the Corps’ soldiers and officers, a sound defense was also organized by units of the presidential guard and the national forces of Mali, which prevented the seizure of the presidential palace.
 
Militant losses amounted to more than 1,000 terrorists (in Bamako — more than 200; in the locality of Gao — 500; in the locality of Kati — 300; in the locality of Kidal — 200), as well as more than 100 vehicles.
 
The Africa Corps of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is Russia’s pride on the African continent.
 
Through the effective actions of the Africa Corps’ servicemen, who repelled a large-scale attack along a line of contact stretching more than 2,000 kilometers, an attempt — meticulously prepared by Western intelligence services — to forcibly overthrow the government and to demonstrate Russia’s “inability,” following Syria, to defend its strategic partners on the African continent, has been halted.
 
Russians cannot understand the position of the Embassy of the Russian Federation in Mali and of the Foreign Ministry as a whole, on whose websites no information has been provided regarding the events in the country and the heroic actions of the soldiers of the Russian Federation who secured the stability of the current government. [!]
 
The comprehensive actions of our soldiers and officers, under the difficult conditions of coordinated operations by armed gangs led by Western and Ukrainian instructors, made it possible to thwart the enemy’s plans to carry out a coup d’état and to ensure the stability of the country’s governance.
 
At present, the situation in Mali remains grave. Regrettably, there are wounded among the servicemen of the Africa Corps. They are being given all necessary aid and are being evacuated. The personnel stand ready and continue to carry out their assigned tasks.
 

 
Also:
 
https://x.com/YuriPodolyaka/status/2048137202631323715?s=20
 
Have you kept up with Micron and ꑭelensky’s disastrous headchopper attack in Mali? It’s at least as bad a defeat for NATO as ꑭelensky’s Greate Summere Counteroffensive of 2023.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 26 2026 15:25 utc | 4

New NATO Member Flags Fiscal Strain While Boosting Military Aid to Ukraine
 
https://www.rt.com/news/639111-finland-extremely-difficult-ukraine-aid/
 
“…The government’s fiscal plan for 2027-2030 was presented earlier this week. It includes cuts of 240 million euros to social and healthcare spending, but 300 million in increased military support for Ukraine. ‘The state of public finances is extremely difficult, as the debt-to-GDP ratio is approaching 90%,’ Purra said…”
 
So how’s that new NATO membership working out for you Finland?

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 26 2026 15:34 utc | 5

I would trust that russian leadership. The EU is breaking apart, the daily commerce-news delivers horrorshows, Britain has to borrow a german frigate for NATO-rehearsels, the ulkruinian theater happens since 23 under strict attention for a big confrontation with EU-idiots. The amount of shitheads in Europes gouvernements is unique in worlds history. But thats all about Putins nightdresses.

Posted by: OberstHecht | Apr 26 2026 15:35 utc | 6

Lot of silly talk floating around at the moment, in this stand-off between the West and Russia.  Most of the silly talk ignoring the reality of modern warfare in an environment in which both sides possess strategic and tactical nukes.
 
On the question of whether we Europeans have or will have an independent strategic nuclear deterrent, that does seem unlikely.  Unlikely now, let alone in the future.
 
With the UK it’s not just a matter of the codes.  That we have broken the codes seems to be accepted though that’s more gossip than hard fact.  Apart from that, if nukes emerge from some remote part of the ocean and head for Moscow there’s no certain way of telling who’s fired them.  It’s not as if they have labels on them. 
 
Nor would there be time for the Russians to determine who fired them.  Nor, were there the time,  would the Russians trust the Americans if the Americans said, just before a Russian city got incinerated,  “not one of ours so please don’t incinerate Chicago.”  Any nuclear weapon fired at Russia from anywhere would be assumed to be a Western first strike and would lead to the automatic Russian response.
 
If we – or the French –  had  a truly independent deterrent the Americans would have to accept that any nuclear armed European nation could initiate Armageddon for the US as we pleased, and that without US knowledge or consent.  No American administration could accept that risk.   It is therefore unlikely that our and the French deterrents are truly independent.  We can’t use our nukes against Russia unless the Americans give the go-ahead. 
 
Doubt it works the other way.  Therefore we Europeans are at risk should the Americans themselves decide on a first strike.  It’s highly unlikely to impossible that the Americans ever would so decide but that doesn’t mean all this is pointless theory.   It sounds like pointless theory – until one considers the possibility of accident.
 
Accidental nuclear war is a real possibility especially at times of increased tension.  Like now.   Behind the scenes both the Russians and the Americans are working away ensuring deconfliction measures are in place but those deconfliction measures, though they greatly reduce the chances of accidental nuclear war, do not entirely eliminate them.  Any Europeans country possessed of nuclear weapons or with nuclear weapons on its soil is at risk if they don’t.
 
And that leaves tactical nuclear out of the reckoning.  As Trukhan pointed out, Russian military doctrine calls for the use of tactical if a conventional attack from the West looked like succeeding.  We in the West had a roughly similar doctrine during the first Cold War.
 
At that time the battlefield was expected to be in Germany.  Always wondered how the German Generals attending military conferences felt, back then,  about that cool assumption that German towns and countryside were to provide the arena in which such battles involving tactical  would be fought.   Presumably the same as the Balts feel today when American and European Generals prate about taking Kaliningrad.
 
That’s theory too of course.  The European countries are in no condition to enter into serious armed conflict with Russia, for all the chest-beating we see from Berlin/Brussels and London.  Nor could they hope for much success even if backed by the American military, which is also more bark than bite these days when it comes to conventional warfare.  All the fiery talk is more to do with Merz’s hope of reinvigorating German industry by focussing on arms production.
 
But the possibility of accident with strategic nuclear weapons, or of the use of tactical nuclear if the chest-beating were ever to go beyond talk or pin pricks, is there.   Yet it’s not considered.  It should be.  Watching the American and European politicians and military handle this conflict with Russia as they are doing is akin to watching fractious toddlers being allowed to play with matches in an ammunition store.

Posted by: English Outsider | Apr 26 2026 15:40 utc | 7

Videos of Russia and Malian army pummeling the western terrorists in Mali, causing mass casualties.
 
https://x.com/Eng_china5/status/2048412825270595702

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2026 15:40 utc | 8

🇲🇱🇷🇺 KIDAL UPDATE — AFRICAN CORPS SITUATION REPORT FROM YESTERDAY’S FIGHTING
 
African Corps forces at Kidal repelled four massed assaults by a force of up to 1,000 militants backed by Ukrainian instructors, operating with 20+ armored vehicles, 80+ pickups, FPV drones, and mortars.
 
Results in 24 hours:
 
12 pickups destroyed by artillery and mortar fire, around 50 militants killed. 32 militants killed in direct combat. An isolated outpost held its position for the entire day in full encirclement, 6km from main forces, destroying 6 armed pickups and capturing one with weapons and ammunition intact. The armored group spent much of the day partially surrounded, breaking out alongside Malian army units and destroying 4 more pickups.
 
Some forward posts were evacuated under heavy mortar fire, with units regrouping to better positions inside the town.

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/2048394242456723788

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2026 15:46 utc | 9

Russians cannot understand the position of the Embassy of the Russian Federation in Mali and of the Foreign Ministry as a whole, on whose websites no information has been provided regarding the events in the country and the heroic actions of the soldiers of the Russian Federation who secured the stability of the current government .
 
I read somewhere that the President of Mali is pro US.

Posted by: arby | Apr 26 2026 16:00 utc | 10

 I read somewhere that the President of Mali is pro US.
Posted by: arby | Apr 26 2026 16:00 utc | 12

 
If so, that would be the same kind of setup as in Lebanon. Hezbollah which defends the country, and a sold-out government that is actively trying to destroy the country.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2026 16:05 utc | 11

EU approves 90b for Ukraine (as a “loan”, that Russia will be forced to repay), now that’s out of the way, talk of another 19b begins. As long as this flows (and US/UK intel), the conflict will continue.

Posted by: Call it what u will | Apr 26 2026 16:05 utc | 12

@English Outsider 9:
 
No American regime would ever, under any circumstances, risk the destruction of Chicago or Los Angeles, let alone Warshington or Jew York, for Paris or Londonistan, let alone Warsaw or Estonia. The only “country” that it would commit suicide for is its colonial master and slaveowner the racist genocidal illegitimate Ashkenazi zionazi settler entity. Russia knows that as well. So if there is a nuclear strike on Russia, say “officially” by Ukranazistan, even the craven Europhile Putin’s response would be to blame France and Britain, not the United States of Epstein. 

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 26 2026 16:11 utc | 13

 I read somewhere that the President of Mali is pro US.

Posted by: arby | Apr 26 2026 16:00 utc | 12
 
 
Incorrect and outdated. The 2021 Malian coup by Assimi Goïta removed the interim “president”. Mali is part of the Sahel Axis of Resistance along with Niger and Burkina Faso.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 26 2026 16:15 utc | 14

English Outsider | Apr 26 2026 15:40 utc | 9
Karaganov is calling for tailored conventional strikes by the Russian army on targets in Western Europe, as a warning against nuclear attacks.I think Karaganov is a complete idiot, which puts him on a par with Putin in terms of intellect.Putin is preventing the Russian army from carrying out attacks on high-profile targets in Kyiv, where the European warmongers and financiers of the war of aggression against Russia are running riot unhindered alongside Zelensky.Putin is a disgrace to the Russian people, but a godsend for his oligarchs.
Kind regards

Posted by: Oberbayer | Apr 26 2026 16:24 utc | 16

Posted by: Oberbayer | Apr 26 2026 16:24 utc | 18
 

Putin is a disgrace to the Russian people, but a godsend for his oligarchs.

 
Putin is deliberately slow walking this war so as to not interrupt the income streams of his oligarch cronies. The profits of his oligarch cronies has always been of paramount importance to Putin. This is something any honest observer with knowledge of Russia has to admit, if only to himself, at this point. 
 
Putin is trying to balance the uninterrupted income of his oligarch cronies with the necessity of war economy expenditure, and looking for a “threshold” where Russia can allegedly indefinitely carry on the conflict without straining the profits of his cronies. Meanwhile Ukranazistan’s EU owners, especially Germany, have openly converted their economies to war production. This may seem comical now, but isn’t; the cutting edge of modern war are cheap disposable autonomous drones, and since Putin refuses to enforce his own red lines nobody in NATO takes Russian threats seriously anymore. 
 
Just two years ago Ukranazi drone attacks on Russian territory were rare and exceptional. Now they’re constant and routine, and the Baltic chihuahuas, Poland, and Finland, aren’t even attempting to deny that they’re allowing their airspace to be used to attack Russian targets. Why should they? They know Putin won’t do a thing. 
 
The obese gasbag Martyanov is still babbling about kill ratios, as though the relative number of Russian:Ukrainian deaths means any more now than body counts did in Vietnam, Korea, or the Eastern Front in WWII. The simple fact is that Putin does not want to win, because winning would require taking steps that would imperil his oligarch cronies’ profit margins, and he thinks he can carry this on indefinitely. He is wrong. 
 
As long as Putin is not either removed or stripped of all control of the SMO, Russia is not going to win. 

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 26 2026 16:37 utc | 17

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 26 2026 16:37 utc | 19  “, Poland, and Finland, aren’t even attempting to deny that they’re allowing their airspace to be used”
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There is no need for Ukraine to use Poland’s or anyone else’s airspace.  This war has gone on so long that Ukraine now can hit targets  in the Urals.  Yekaterinburg & Chelyabinsk
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https://x.com/Tweet4AnnaNAFO/status/2048212019824734694

Posted by: ed4 | Apr 26 2026 16:56 utc | 18

Well, Putin has a balanced approach. Russia does maintain an above necessary level of war economy, conscription based army and high education standards for the armed forces. 
 
However, a balanced approach has limits. When your enemy is going all-in, 35 Nato countries with a $2 trillion budget, now they’re going all in on drones (the last remaining effective weapon Nato can realistically use in Ukraine), it will inevitably overwhelm the Russian air defense.
 
This is the true issue. You see, building long range strike drones will be always be easier and cheaper compared to building air defenses for drones. Even in air defense becomes more effective against drones, the mathematical fact of drones being more economic will lead to the fact that they will eventually overwhelm air defenses and hit more targets.
 
In this sense, Russia is really contending with the western capacity to manufacture these drones.
 
The balanced approach proves its weakness when the enemy is doing everything it can (and now it discovered cheap mass-produced drones) to go all in and hit Russian economic targets.
 
It would make sense for Russia to start a covert campaign targeting European economic targets in return, like North Sea gas and oil facilities. Maybe hit LNG terminals in Rotterdam, France and UK. Maybe start sinking a few LNG tankers here and there in the Atlantic.
 
If it can be done covertly, that sort of stuff will bring EU and UK to their knees pretty quickly. Then they can blame Zelensky and his sailing yacht crews for everything, like it happened before.
 
Russia needs to start weakening EU/Nato economically before any massive and direct attacks, such a campaign could still last years to bear fruit. It’s a more cautious approach that does not result in EU going berserk, yet, but weakens it in a similar fashion EU is trying to weaken Russia.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2026 17:01 utc | 19

@22
Answer to
Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 26 2026 16:37 utc | 19

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2026 17:01 utc | 20

You can count on it…they are, or would be.
 
And if Putin isn’t careful, the hardliners who want it, and a few other things besides, will prevail… Currently, Putin can probably reassure this group with the undeniable argument: “Careful, we’ll need every shell…NATO will attack us.”
 
Or something else entirely… “We’ll have to react, and we need our reserves for that.”
 
Because production is running at full capacity to fill the strategic stockpiles, which probably already have more than double the capacity of the worst Cold War.
 
Hardly anyone seems to remember that Russia has quietly, but not secretly, formed, equipped, and trained a completely new army. Why, you ask? Certainly not because of Ukraine.
Because…production is running at full speed to fill the strategic depots, which probably already have more than double the capacity of the worst Cold War. Again… Russia, too, is capable of unleashing devastating bombing campaigns on cities, not just the USA.
 
And if NATO strategists compare the Ukraine war to the anticipation of a potential war between Russia and NATO, these strategists will likely react with great alarm. As Putin said, “It’s doubtful whether negotiating partners could still be found in Berlin or Brussels within approximately three days of a war breaking out between NATO and Russia.”
 
End

Posted by: Genesis | Apr 26 2026 17:01 utc | 21

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 26 2026 16:41 utc | 20 “feeling safe, is increasing the production of drones in Europe and on its own territory”
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That can’t be true as I have seen multiple people post on MOA that Ukraine can’t build anything in Ukraine.    Oreshnik’s, the Russian wonder weapon, have taken everything out!
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Which just goes to show that the only wonder weapon involved in this war is the continued ability for the West to ship weapons and other supplies into Ukraine.  If Russia could stop or slow that down things might change.
 

Posted by: ed4 | Apr 26 2026 17:02 utc | 22

If Russia really wants to put EU into a freeze, then maybe Poseidon up the channel to blow up the port of Rotterdam to work. It would be close as possible to Brussels, would make them paralyze and freeze in fear and break the EU backbone of stockpiling and distribution of oil, LNG and fuel.
 
So essentially paralyzing the port of Rotterdam puts most of the core EU states out of business.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2026 17:10 utc | 23

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2026 17:01 utc | 22
 
 
Now, before one targets LNG terminals or organizes sabotage against drone production facilities…
One ought to call China to order. For without all those imports—of electronics and complete components for drone manufacturing—the West, with its limited raw materials and production capabilities, would be in a dire situation regarding drone construction. Even the facility founded in Munich imports up to 55% of its components from China.
China appears to be exploiting this situation to ensure Putin does not gain too many advantages—FOR the Chinese leadership could halt every single export immediately and completely.
The old adage still holds true: “Never trust a Chinese person who stands to make money.”And this remains the case even though China would be the next adversary after Russia… but then again, what aspect of the Chinese mentality is truly comprehensible to us?
Aside from their avarice!
Ergo:
As long as Putin plays along with this game and continues to court China, something is amiss… or could it be that they are all in cahoots?

Posted by: Genesis | Apr 26 2026 17:11 utc | 24

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 26 2026 16:15 utc | 16
 
 Thanks, I wondered when I read that how it could be true because I know Mali is part of the Sahel group.

Posted by: arby | Apr 26 2026 17:13 utc | 25

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2026 17:01 utc | 22

Russia needs to start weakening EU/Nato economically before any massive and direct attacks, such a campaign could still last years to bear fruit. It’s a more cautious approach that does not result in EU going berserk, yet, but weakens it in a similar fashion EU is trying to weaken Russia.

I’ve been reluctant but now I agree with you. I’m also sure that Moscow understands this better than we do as they sit on more reliable data. They’ll react later than we would like them to but the reaction will come — it’s forced upon them.
 
The flipside is that EU industry *is* going to shit. On the one hand, this makes the current set of leaders unable to change course but on the other hand it restricts the future potential. The bad state of Germany’s industry has now reached mainstream media.

Posted by: Konami | Apr 26 2026 17:15 utc | 26

Reminder: Today is the 40th anniversary of the Chernobyl event.
 

🇷🇺 Exactly forty years ago, one of the largest man-made disasters in the world occurred – the accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power station

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/184816

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 26 2026 17:17 utc | 27

Posted by: Genesis | Apr 26 2026 17:11 utc | 27
 
Definitely number one option would be to get China to halt critical weapon components, especially related to DRONES to EUrope and UK.
 
If Russia can somehow disrupt the drone supply chain it can remove the main threat. But the problem is Chinese only care about money, they will sell hundreds of thousands of components through AliBaba monthly.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2026 17:17 utc | 28

Over 4 years later, the West has still failed to bleed Russia out militarily, economically or politically.
 
Over 4 years later, Western backing of Ukraine has not recovered the Donbass territories or Crimea.
 
Over 4 years later, those Western champions of “freedom and democracy” have successfully destroyed both concepts within Ukraine.
 
Over 4 years later, the West is becoming more impoverished and internally divided.
 
Over 4 years later, what has the West actually achieved in Ukraine? What could possibly be seen as a positive outcome for the West from the position it is now in?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 26 2026 17:30 utc | 29

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 26 2026 17:30 utc | 33

Over 4 years later, what has the West actually achieved in Ukraine? What could possibly be seen as a positive outcome for the West from the position it is now in?

1. Russians died: a sizeable number of soldiers and many civilians. That’s a goal in itself for die-hard russophobes.
 
2. EU is more centralised than ever. That comes with totalitarian measures in all EUropean countries. This, I believe, is the main goal of the entire operation. (Because winning a war it can’t be.)
 
Everything you describe is correct but was IMO never the point, e.g. “democracy in Ukraine”. That clearly never was an option.

Posted by: Konami | Apr 26 2026 17:38 utc | 30

If Russia can somehow disrupt the drone supply chain it can remove the main threat. But the problem is Chinese only care about money, they will sell hundreds of thousands of components through AliBaba monthly.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2026 17:17 utc | 31
 
That is exactly what I meant…
And this, with the full knowledge that the money they have amassed will be of absolutely no use to them once *they* become the next target…Furthermore, without Russia’s raw materials—everything from oil to gas and the like—China would already be finished, given the situation with Iran and Venezuela.
My son, along with twelve fellow truck drivers, drives the Frankfurt–Leipzig route every night—transporting almost exclusively Chinese-made components to BMW, Porsche, and Mercedes… Does that speak volumes?
 
But anyway… what do I know about the global economy and geopolitics?It’s just that, logically, quite a few things don’t add up—in many respects!
Especially when you consider that we are talking about wars… If I am at war with a state, I react differently… and if I know that I’m next, then “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”—not my business partner.

Posted by: Genesis | Apr 26 2026 17:44 utc | 31

For all that the commentariat lambast China for supplying dual-use componentry to all and sundry, it is entirely possible that at least some of said components have back doors, kill switches and other goodies embedded deep within. 
 
To be activated if and when circumstances are deemed appropriate by those to whom the requisite access mechanisms have been divulged…..

Posted by: Waymad | Apr 26 2026 19:01 utc | 32

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 26 2026 15:14 utc | 2
 
It makes perfect sense IMO that Zelensky wants to meet Putin and that the Russians are uninterested.
 
The main part of Simplicius’ essay seems to be behind paywall.

Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 26 2026 19:13 utc | 33

It would make sense for Russia to start a covert campaign targeting European economic targets in return, like North Sea gas and oil facilities. Maybe hit LNG terminals in Rotterdam, France and UK. Maybe start sinking a few LNG tankers here and there in the Atlantic.
If it can be done covertly, that sort of stuff will bring EU and UK to their knees pretty quickly. Then they can blame Zelensky and his sailing yacht crews for everything, like it happened before.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2026 17:01 utc | 19
 

Now, before one targets LNG terminals or organizes sabotage against drone production facilities…
One ought to call China to order. For without all those imports—of electronics and complete components for drone manufacturing—the West, with its limited raw materials and production capabilities, would be in a dire situation regarding drone construction. Even the facility founded in Munich imports up to 55% of its components from China.
China appears to be exploiting this situation to ensure Putin does not gain too many advantages—FOR the Chinese leadership could halt every single export immediately and completely.
The old adage still holds true: “Never trust a Chinese person who stands to make money.”And this remains the case even though China would be the next adversary after Russia… but then again, what aspect of the Chinese mentality is truly comprehensible to us?
Aside from their avarice!
Posted by: Genesis | Apr 26 2026 17:11 utc | 24

 
All Americans believe that they are the good guys who’ve been hijacked by the bad guys (Jews, Europeans, Chinese, Russians, Iranians etc). As facts continue to batter their incorrect worldview, these Americans resort to increasingly convoluted explanations for why things happen—anything but acknowledging that America is the common enemy of all humanity.
 
Attack Europe! Attack China! Get Russians to attack alleged “traitors” to the Russian people!
 
Do everything except attack America.
 
How convenient that all these targets happen to challenge American hegemony.
 
Meanwhile, back in the real world:

  • Bessent steps up criticism of Chinese support for Russia’s war in Ukraine, Politico Pro, 10/15/2025

    • Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent on Wednesday expressed renewed concern about Chinese support for Russia’s war against Ukraine and said the Trump administration would soon release photos showing Chinese parts comprise “substantial amounts” of Russia’s drones.
  • China’s Facilitation of Sanctions and Export Control Evasion (https://www.uscc.gov/research/chinas-facilitation-sanctions-and-export-control-evasion —a U.S. government report published on a U.S. government website), U.S.-China Economic AND Security Review Commission, 11/14/2025

    • China’s Facilitation of Evasion for Iran, Russia, and North Korea

      • Iran

        • China’s Oil Purchases Account for Most of Iran’s Revenue
        • Iran’s Shadow Banking System Connects to the World via China
        • China’s Facilitation of Iran’s Export Control Evasion
      • Russia

        • Chinese Oil Purchases Undermine Cap
        • China’s Role as Decisive Enabler of Russia Access to Dual-Use Technology
      • North Korea

        • China Is North Korea’s Trade and Economic Evasion Lifeline
        • Pyongyang Hooks Up to Mainland Money Laundering System
        • China Pivotal to North Korea’s Export Control Evasion Efforts
  • China condemns EU’s inclusion of Chinese entities in sanctions package against Russia, Reuters, April 25, 2026

    • The EU sanctions package targets ⁠third-country suppliers of critical ​high-tech items, including China-based entities ​accused of providing dual-use goods or weapons systems to Russia’s military-industrial complex.
  • US sanctions China’s ‘teapot’ refinery for buying Iranian oil, Al Jazeera, 25 Apr 2026

    • The Hengli refinery, China’s second-largest, has generated hundreds of millions of dollars for Iran’s military, the US Treasury says. It also imposed new sanctions on about 40 shipping firms and vessels alleged to be operating as part of Iran’s shadow fleet.

 
I’m being very, very charitable when I portray the Americans as unknowingly advocating for attacks against those who are actively resisting American aggression. It’s far likelier that these Americans are cognizant of exactly what they’re advocating: the perpetuation of America’s enslavement of the rest of the world.
 
Death to America
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Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 26 2026 20:11 utc | 34

On the pace pf the SMO a commenter on LJ’s site, “DickKent”, explains one of the considerations the Russians must take into account.  “Putin’s strategy has been so effective because it is slow and relentless. There has been no move that could terrify the European populations into a war frenzy.
 
Other considerations are, avoidance of unnecessary casualties, reducing the number of extremists left around after the war, maybe giving the Ukrainians time to get rid of the currant Kiev administration themselves and if not, ensuring that the Ukrainians are more relieved than angry that that administration has been removed, exhausting Western resources, particularly financial, reducing the risk of nuclear war – a tiny risk but no point taking chances when dealing with hysterics –  and taking into account opinion in the non-Western countries.
 
No doubt there are other considerations Gerasimov and his mates take into account as they plod along bringing this war to a close. Or maybe the Russians feel that it’s their prerogative to decide how they fight their side of the war.  “Some days I feel like playing it smooth. Some days I feel like playing it like a waffle iron”  they’re saying to themselves.  And who can deny they have the right to fight it any damn way they please?

Posted by: English Outsider | Apr 26 2026 20:12 utc | 35

Aside from the obvious that Russia has been fighting NATO in Ukraine and that the Ukraine is but one of the many spear points the US/NATO has pointed at Russia, may I ask the question which is the flip side of this vinyl record ?  Since there was a claim only a couple of years ago that the Ukraine was going to kick Russia’s butt, why is Ukraine wasting so much valuable time in preparing for Russia a “shock and awe, blitzkrieg” finality?

Posted by: kupkee | Apr 26 2026 21:05 utc | 36

Putin is all in on Singapore
I travelled on biz for 20 years all over Asia.  Lee Quan Yew is the archetict of the 21 st century. Ok China uses social media instead of the cane to make cheap transactional justice. Otherwise is all Lee all the time. The one thing the Lee did not no one seems to be able to emulate is stamping out corruption.

Posted by: steve | Apr 26 2026 21:28 utc | 37

Nobody mentions logistics.
 
Russia must secure the headwaters supplying water to Donbas and secure the water supply to Crimea.

Posted by: Blind Bridge Troll | Apr 26 2026 22:04 utc | 38

Blind Bridge Troll | Apr 26 2026 22:04 utc 
Look at the maps, I dont know what is left to capture but they are 80% already there.

Posted by: steve | Apr 26 2026 22:08 utc | 39

 Belgorod is under attack by drones from a squadron made up of Ukrainian women. They are extremely bloodthirsty and spare no civilians. On the Belgorod front, squadrons of drone operators composed of female soldiers from the Ukrainian armed forces have been spotted. Their emblem is a witch on a broom. The extreme cruelty of these neo-Nazi formations is noted, as they attack cars carrying women and children with drones in the border areas. They also deliberately strike civilians and homes in the border zone. Worse still, they do not even spare children, which is an unspeakable sacrilege.

 
https://x.com/Pascal_Laurent_/status/2048419937400566082

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2026 22:20 utc | 40

I want to go back to this question posed by ed4 (Apr 22 2026 2:48 utc | 133), “With those kinds of losses for Ukraine it’s amazing the Russians aren’t on the Polish border yet.”  I asked ed4 “Why would Russia want to be on the Polish border?”  Let’s pass by ed4’s response (Apr 26 2026 13:39 utc | 145), “Given that Russia already borders Poland, what is the point of this question?”
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Why indeed would Russia WANT to be on the Polish border?  It’s an excellent question, and I asked it.  I asked it because it’s a question I’ve been mulling over for years.  Ed4 implies Russia wants to be on the border with Poland.  I’m not sure it does.  I came up with several possible answers.  These are my reasons why, if I was on the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, which I’m not, I would recommend not going to Ukraine’s far west border.
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1.  Keep a distance away from the NATO borders.  If NATO crosses the border into western Ukraine, from Poland let’s say, the Russian forces would have enough time to enter defensive positions before NATO troops struck them.  This has a lot of precedents.  In World War II, the forward position of Soviet forces allowed the Germans to strike them with full force, cutting through gaps between Soviet units and creating kesselschlachts (cauldrons) where they annihilated some of the best Soviet front line units almost before the Soviets knew what was going on.   The Russians drew on those hard lessons when they prepared for Ukraine’s 2023 Zaporizhzhia offensive.  The Russians created a defense in depth with fortified lines ten kilometers or more from the Ukrainians.  This allowed the Russians to absorb and weaken Ukraine’s push south, wearing down the Ukrainians before they reached the main Russian lines.  If Russia went all the way to the border with Poland, it would put itself back in the position the Soviet’s found in June 1941.
 
2.  If Russia rolled across Ukraine today, the war would not end for years, if ever.  The further west you go in Ukraine, the more anti-Russian the population.  At the moment, Russia has a Russian population living on Russian territory behind it.  That means the Russian army has no need to station occupation forces throughout the four oblasts (Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk, and Lugansk).  If the Russian army moved quickly across Ukraine, it would need to detail large forces to secure its rear area all the way from its current lines – to the border with Poland.  In order to maintain a combat ready force facing NATO across the Polish border, Russia would have to move hundreds of thousands, if not a million or more troops into Ukraine to pacify a hostile population.  If Russia continues its slow pace across Ukraine, it can take the time to destroy each city and town in turn.  As we have seen up to now, the Ukrainians evacuate these towns, but many civilians, mostly pro-Russian, remain and welcome the Russian army.  You could call this population sorting by fire.  The anti-Russian civilians flee.  The pro-Russian civilians remain.  The Russian army moves over and past this now pro-Russian town.   We have seen, again and again, the Russians immediately begin to rebuild the war damaged towns and the locals, now firm supporters of Russia, self-regulate.  This means the local civilians keep an eye on any anti-Russian individuals or families, report them to the Russian authorities, or deal with the problem themselves.  Russia only needs a token rear force to maintain order.  As the Russian army moves further west, the oblast authorities move into the town and the Russian forces hand it off to them, moving one or two towns further west.  In other words, to win the peace, Russia needs to take its time sorting out the population it leaves in its rear area.
 
3.  Russia is at war with NATO.  They have been saying this for years.  If the Russians swept across Ukraine and parked its army half a kilometer from the Polish border, NATO would move the war to some other area – Romania, Moldova, Hungary, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, or Finland.  As long as the war remains in Ukraine, a battleground the Russian army knows well, it won’t have to shift forces to a new theater.  It’s like the old saying, “Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.”
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Those are three reasons I came up with why I would advise the Russian general staff to continue its slow advance across Ukraine.  It is minor, short term pain for a long term positive gain.
 
Finally, the Russians can always sweep across Ukraine if the day comes they need to do so.  In the meantime, there is strong reason to take all of Ukraine any time soon.  If they did, and the war moved to the Baltics, attacks on oil refineries, ports, St. Petersburg, and Kaliningrad would spike, not get less.  It’s not Ukraine attacking Russia.  It’s NATO.  Knock Ukraine out of the war, the war just moves to somewhere else.
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Alright ed4, I’ve given you my answer.  Now tell us why you think Russia should rush across Ukraine to park its army within easy reach of NATO.

Posted by: Nobody Special | Apr 26 2026 22:38 utc | 41

The obese gasbag Martyanov fetishises Russian generals. However, I’m pretty sure he’ll never ever mention what this general just said:
 

“Stop drawing red lines”: Russian Armed Forces general calls for real war:
 
“Red lines have long since ceased to function; it’s time for real war, stated by former Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces Yuri Baluevsky [Clearly, another “armchair-general” who can’t see the subtly in 5-D chess?]..the enemy sees that Russia is not responding to its actions and is becoming even more brazen. The lack of an adequate response only provokes further escalation…the enemy does not understand words, he must be made to fear“
 
Baluyevsky’s statements reflect the mood of Russian troops on the front, many officers have repeatedly said that we need to fight differently [with] no need to fear a major war because; it’s already begun…demonstrate strength now or, we’ll be crushed“

 
 
Source:
 
https://en.topwar.ru/281719-hvatit-risovat-krasnye-linii-general-vs-rf-prizval-voevat-po-nastojaschemu.html

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 26 2026 23:08 utc | 42

@Nobody Special 41
 
What makes you imagine that Russia isn’t already within easy reach of NATO?

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 26 2026 23:09 utc | 43

2. EU is more centralised than ever. That comes with totalitarian measures in all EUropean countries.
 
Posted by: Konami | Apr 26 2026 17:38 utc | 30

 
They are trying to do this, but people are hating it … the EU is more politically divided than ever. Although their economic situation is not dire yet, it’s hardly doing well … it’s an excellent demonstration to see how they are coping with higher fuel prices. Their initial plan when Nord Stream got blown up was to pretend nothing happened. Now they are busy coming up with all sorts of useless strategies for an era of $100 oil.
 
They are “protecting consumers” which really means they pretend oil is cheaper by using some government money to offset the real price … an extremely short term strategy at best.
 
Then they also want to “phase out subsidies for fossil fuels” … I kid you not … which I guess means not using government money to offset the price. While generating a long list of action items, no one even considered it might be a bad idea to work against yourself having contradictory actions on that list.
 
Then they want to double down on buying more solar cells from China which is the same failing strategy they have been working at for the past 20 years.
 
These are a leadership impervious to new information and only capable of suppression of dissent, but unable to admit they can’t deal with real problems.

Posted by: Tel | Apr 26 2026 23:51 utc | 44

It would make sense for Russia to start a covert campaign targeting European economic targets in return, like North Sea gas and oil facilities. Maybe hit LNG terminals in Rotterdam, France and UK. Maybe start sinking a few LNG tankers here and there in the Atlantic.

Then they can blame Zelensky and his sailing yacht crews for everything, like it happened before.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 26 2026 17:01 utc | 19

  1. What happens if and when the truth comes out?
  2. Potential violations of the ninth commandment aside, does Ukraine even have the capability?

Posted by: joey_n | Apr 26 2026 23:55 utc | 45

There is a common response from Putin cultists when Putin’s failures – those that even the cultists can’t ignore – are pointed out that Russia “shouldn’t change leaders in wartime.”
 
Rubbish. Wartime is exactly when one absolutely must change leaders who have failed to bring victory. The alternative is that said leaders have an incentive to keep the war going indefinitely as the best way to remain in power.
 
See ꑭelensky.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 27 2026 0:17 utc | 46

Posted by: Tel | Apr 26 2026 23:51 utc | 44
 
I agree with everything you write. Brussels is not just trying to turn EUrope into a totalitarian superstate, they make good progress:

  • Surveillance and control: well on the way. (digital identity wallet, digital currencies)
  • Cutting out wrongthink and wrongspeak: censorship. Sanctioning EU citizens
  • Marginalising member states in favor of Brussels: going on since ever, now about “common security policy” via “qualified majority”
  • Meddling with (“liberal”, i.e. voting) “democracy”, if you care about this stuff.

I found it interesting that Brussels is not advancing the intererests of EUropean industry capital, just as the German government under Scholz or Merz isn’t doing that for German industry capital any longer, as Merkel and previous governments did.

These are a leadership impervious to new information and only capable of suppression of dissent, but unable to admit they can’t deal with real problems.

Brussels is reacting to new data all the time: they’re working on the 21st sanctions package by now 🙂
 
But seriouly, I have trouble understanding *who* the EU is working for: there’s a lot of inherited transatlanticism and some zionism (most strongly with Germany, UK, Italy). The ideological backbone IMO is (a) woke ideology, that includes everything “green”, (b) russophobia on a level not seen since WW2, (c) EU for EU’s sake.
 
The 90 billions € gift to Ukraine won’t even last until 2028 as once promised and is an all-in bet on a win over Russia, to get the money back through reparations. That won’t ever happen and I’m convinced we’re all get to see the end of the EU project — the centrifugal forces are too strong.

Posted by: Konami | Apr 27 2026 0:18 utc | 47

All of the ratiocination about why the conflict is going along at its speed, is just that, ratiocination. Whatever argument you can make as to why, it’s a counterfactual for the opposite, and largely (here at MoA in particular) is just an attempt at justification of one’s opinions.

Posted by: Call it what u will | Apr 27 2026 0:36 utc | 48

But seriouly, I have trouble understanding *who* the EU is working for: there’s a lot of inherited transatlanticism and some zionism (most strongly with Germany, UK, Italy). 
Posted by: Konami | Apr 27 2026 0:18 utc | 47
 
According to Brian Berletic the EU is doing the job appointed to it by the US. Burden sharing.
 
Hesgeth in 2025– basicalling telling the EU what its job was
https://www.war.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/4064571/hegseth-calls-on-nato-allies-to-lead-europes-security-rules-out-support-for-ukr/

Posted by: arby | Apr 27 2026 0:44 utc | 49

So how’s that new NATO membership working out for you Finland?
Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 26 2026 15:34 utc | 5
 
I think that that old Chinese thing ‘too early to tell’ applies here.
 
For more than eighty years the US has been embarked on a project to destroy Russia and take all its stuff. A few years ago countries such as Sweden, Finland, Switzerland were told ‘We’re divvying up Russia. Be in the club and get a share, or don’t and don’t.’ They all figured that the juice would be worth the squeeze. I’m certain that that is the case.

Posted by: acementhead | Apr 27 2026 1:03 utc | 50

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 26 2026 15:34 utc | 5 “So how’s that new NATO membership working out for you Finland?”
Finland seems all in with it.  They have proposed allowing nuclear weapons to be stationed on their territory.  They also continue to push for more NATO cooperation exercises.
Putin ruined Russia’s relationship with Finland and Sweden, Trump is ruining the US relationship with Finland and Sweden. 
 

Posted by: ed4 | Apr 27 2026 1:25 utc | 51

@acementhead 50
 
And so far I don’t see any reason for them to think that they’ve made the wrong choice.
 
They’re killing off disposable Ukrainian cannon fodder to fight Russia, they’re turning their moribund economies to fill war production without any kind of consequences, and Russia’s “red lines” are a ludicrous joke. 
 

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 27 2026 1:50 utc | 52

Posted by: Nobody Special | Apr 26 2026 22:38 utc | 41
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I don’t think I ever implied anything about Russia ‘wanting’ to be on the border with Poland.  I just said they already are on the border with Poland.
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I think Russia would be smart to figure out how to end this war.  Ukraine is a write off.  But the cost of it to Russia is enormous.   It is orders of magnitude higher than they thought when they started.   And the longer it goes on, the more expensive it will be to Russia.
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Ukraine is now hitting targets in the Urals.
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Russia has been truly following a Keynesian model, paying people to make stuff that gets blown up in Ukraine.   This will only work for so long.
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“Russia’s economy minister admits ‘reserves have largely been used up’ while communist lawmaker warns of 1917-style revolution as GDP shrinks”
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“Last week, Economy Development Minister Maxim Reshetnikov told a business conference that the economy “is not easy” and called for reallocating the workforce, which has been tight as Russia’s war on Ukraine and the boom in defense production have created labor shortages.”
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Point 1
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 “The Russians drew on those hard lessons when they prepared for Ukraine’s 2023 Zaporizhzhia offensive.”  It is pretty clear to me that Russia didn’t draw any lessons from the 8 years of war they had waged with Ukraine between 2014 and 2022.  Russia thought Ukraine would not fight.  Russia was wrong.
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Point 2
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“If Russia rolled across Ukraine today, the war would not end for years, if ever.” seems to contradict your closing statement: “Finally, the Russians can always sweep across Ukraine if the day comes, they need to do so.”  At this point Russia can’t even sweep across their own territory to free what Ukraine still occupies of it.
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Point 3
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Parts of this point seem very strange.  There is no war between Russia and Romania, Moldova, Hungary, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, or Finland.  Why would any of those countries attack Russia?   Are you saying Russia will push armored columns to the capitals of these counties as Russia did with Ukraine in February 2022? That seems the most likely way those countries would be sucked into a war.

Posted by: ed4 | Apr 27 2026 1:54 utc | 53

So how’s that new NATO membership working out for you Finland?
 
Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 26 2026 15:34 utc | 5

 
Finland hates Russia, and that’s that. For historical reasons Finland should hate Sweden at least as much, but seeing as much of the “Finnish” population and elite are Swedes…

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 27 2026 2:03 utc | 54

One of the most bizarre features of the Putin cult is that as long as one supports whatever Russia is doing at any time they’re fine with you, but the moment you make any criticism of Putin’s many errors and missteps*, no matter how mild the criticism, they immediately attack you as a “troll” or “concern troll”.
 
To them, then, Russia is equivalent to Putin – which is exactly what westoid propaganda claims.
 
*this is even true when Putin himself admits it,  as he now acknowledges that he should have intervened in Ukraine “earlier.”

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 27 2026 2:30 utc | 55

@ Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 26 2026 23:08 utc | 42
Twice today have you used the expression “obese gasbag” to refer to Andrei Martyanov. You are free to dislike him or his arguments, but this kind of expressions are a stain in your posts, and speak lowly of their author.
I beg you to keep the debate nice and clean. If your arguments are solid, you don’t need to go down that road.

Posted by: Feamantur | Apr 27 2026 5:33 utc | 56

Incorrect and outdated. The 2021 Malian coup by Assimi Goïta removed the interim “president”. Mali is part of the Sahel Axis of Resistance along with Niger and Burkina Faso.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 26 2026 16:15 utc | 14
 
Assimi Goïta and some Mali coup generals received training from the US military and participated in US-led exercises. It is correct to say they’re anti-French but it would be incorrect to say they’re anti-US.
 
In US strategic terms, gaining influence in the region at the expense of the French works too.
 

Posted by: Khoa | Apr 27 2026 6:20 utc | 57

Posted by: ed4 | Apr 27 2026 1:54 utc | 53
 
Sweeping across those territories Ukrainian counter offensive style would cost Russia excessive casualties just like it did with Ukraine’s prior ones. Russia’s plan has been consistent; take care of its own armed forces and inflict damage on the enemy with favourable K:D ratios. The aim has never been territory. De-nazification first approach was offering an olive branch to Ukraine for them to voluntarily disband the Nazi regiments, but since that failed, next step is to cull Nazis militarily on the battlefield. Starting from the ideologically driven, then working down to the least. Until the lesson is ingrained into the collective Ukrainian consciousness and the remainder is willing to throw off western puppet rule.
 
Again, the goal is not to occupy more Ukrainian territory or EU territory but to change Ukrainian thinking so it’d be feasible to resurrect Ukraine as a friendly buffer state.
 

Posted by: Khoa | Apr 27 2026 6:59 utc | 58

The Chinese are so mechanical and obsessed with immediate pecuniary gain that they would indeed deliver the tech to the west, that the west will eventually use against them

Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 27 2026 7:36 utc | 59

“[T]he racist genocidal illegitimate Ashkenazi zionazi settler entity….”
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 26 2026 16:11 utc | 13
 
You shouldn’t be allowed to get away with such vile idiocy. Worse is that you think you’re onto something.

Posted by: jimmy | Apr 27 2026 7:49 utc | 60

Assimi Goïta and some Mali coup generals received training from the US military and participated in US-led exercises.
Posted by: Khoa | Apr 27 2026 6:20 utc | 57
 
So what, he got military training from France too. Is everyone who received “training” from the US at one point automatically pro-US forever? Pot hoc ergo propter hoc fallacies are tiresome; there should be some causation in your reasoning, not just correlation. 

Posted by: James M. | Apr 27 2026 7:57 utc | 61

Should be: Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Posted by: James M. | Apr 27 2026 7:58 utc | 62

 Ukraine is a write off.  But the cost of it to Russia is enormous.   It is orders of magnitude higher than they thought when they started.   And the longer it goes on, the more expensive it will be to Russia.
Posted by: ed4 | Apr 27 2026 1:54 utc | 53
 
How do you know, ed4 what is costly or not costly to Russia? I didn’t know you were a Russian strategist embedded deep in the Kremlin hierarchy. Unless you are that, you can’t really comment, from a Western perspective, on what is costly or not to Russia. Russia has a deep history and a long memory.
 
My take is it’s not a simple calculation of numbers, i.e., how much manpower, equipment, money lost or spent on this war. Perhaps there are sunk costs, and perhaps not, but Russia can endure a lot. The Soviet Union lost, what, 25 or 30 million people in WWII, and a financial cost of 3 trillion USD in today’s money. But what did it prevent or turn back? A European invasion of Russia.
 
What is the cost or price of stopping another potential European invasion, led by NATO? What is the cost of preventing Ukraine and Belarus from joining a military alliance backed by 30 countries and aimed only at one state – Russia? I don’t think Russia has reached the point where the war is too costly for them and probably won’t for a long time. Especially if they prevent another invasion, or worse nuclear war.
 

Posted by: James M. | Apr 27 2026 8:15 utc | 63

Borzzikman
 
Putin, stop the Red Lines Bull SH*T: Russian General calls to strike NATO states with IRBM Oreshnik
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teiliNWaPs4

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 27 2026 8:39 utc | 64

Putin ruined Russia’s relationship with Finland and Sweden, Trump is ruining the US relationship with Finland and Sweden.  
Posted by: ed4 | Apr 27 2026 1:25 utc | 51

 
Well, this is categorically false and casts any other of your claims into doubt. 
 
It wasn’t Putin who ‘ruined’ relations with Finland or Sweden. The fact is these states were hostile to Russia, covertly ever since the break-up of the USSR. They were always aiming to please the EU and US, covertly sabotaging Russian security by installing the globalist power structures and undermining Russian interests.
 
The only thing that changed in 2022 (or 2014) is it became overt instead of covert by joining Nato and openly installing Nato structures (in form of foreign armed contingents and US bases). It would have happened with or without Putin. There was no way of preventing it.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 27 2026 8:43 utc | 65

Regarding the idea of striking the west overtly. It may be better to initiate a cover strategic-economic campaign against western energy and armament production facilities first, in order to weaken Nato as much as possible. 
 
We have heard German ‘defense’ minister Pistorius statements of a war by 2029. More recently he claimed the German army will become the most powerful in 2039. This implies a lack of determination or strategy on the part of Germany.
 
Russia can disrupt, throw back this timeline into the 2050s by eliminating production facilities in the west through a covert strategic campaign, combined with a potential upcoming food and energy crisis will throw EU into disarray and delay any potential renewed Barbarossa  indefinitely.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 27 2026 8:49 utc | 66

Posted by: James M. | Apr 27 2026 7:57 utc | 61
 
You are misunderstanding my statement. I don’t think everything is black and white either. It’s more along the lines of less absolutely anti-US than the previous poster implied. Eg from media coverage and statements from the Mali coup government it seems distinctly more anti-French than anti-US.
 
It could be that he is using the foreign sponsorship selectively to advance native Mali interests. For example, using Russian help and US training to throw off the current French colonial authorities. The plan could have been concocted by the US initially to edge out the French out of Africa. But the Mali generals took it to the Russians for better terms. However they still refrain from explicit actions against the US to keep them on side and maintaining some links to counter balance against Russia.
 
It’s akin to Hamas having been originally funded by the British and Israel. The situation in Mali more murky than it is in case of Burkina Faso.
 

Posted by: Khoa | Apr 27 2026 8:50 utc | 67

WARNING: GRAPHIC
TERRORIST ATTACK on oil facility prevented in Russia’s Komi Republic
2 men planned to carry out drone attack on orders of Ukrainian special services
The suspects shot at FSB officers trying to arrest them, were killed in return fire

 
https://x.com/RT_com/status/2048682062706516098

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 27 2026 9:24 utc | 68

Posted by: Nobody Special | Apr 26 2026 22:38 utc | 41
 
It’s not Ukraine attacking Russia.  It’s NATO.  Knock Ukraine out of the war, the war just moves to somewhere else.———–
 
Yes, the war has always been between the US Empire with its NATO vassals and Russia. The purpose of the Maidan Color Revolution in 2014 was to force Russia’s hand: Either accept Ukraine joining NATO or reject that. Russia chose to reject Ukraine joining NATO and that required Russia providing defense to the Donbas oblasts as well as taking back Crimea. The eight years between 2014 and 2022 allowed Russia to build up its military as well as allowing Ukraine to build up its own. Russia has always understood that Ukraine is a proxy for the US.
 
That much should also be clear to everyone at MoA, but it requires a level of abstract thinking that sometimes goes missing when people get caught up in discussions of tactics or strategies for complete victory over Ukraine.
 
The US idea behind this proxy war is to have it go on indefinitely (to the last Ukrainian) in order to ruin Russia economically. Further, as you point out, conquest of western Ukraine would lead to a long-term Vietnam-type insurgency fed by US dollars and weapons. The least-worst option for Russia would seem to be continuing as it does now: depleting the arms and manpower of Ukraine and bleeding the economies of NATO and the US until the US is unable to continue the war and must allow Ukraine to surrender. But this war is has existential implications for the US Empire; it is a war the Empire must win in order to survive. So the US will not give up readily. And never mind what Trump says, because he can’t open his mouth without lying.
 
It is a hybrid war of arms and economics, plus propaganda and media manipulation of opinion. The long-term plan of the US has always been to subordinate Russia and then pivot toward China. Nothing about that plan has changed. 
 

Posted by: Clever Dog | Apr 27 2026 9:39 utc | 69

Posted by: Nobody Special | Apr 26 2026 22:38 utc | 41
 
Lovely summary on why the Russians don’t want to have to occupy remnant Ukraine.  Dead on.  Of course these considerations would have been very much in the Russians’ mind in February 2022.  More so. 
 
You go on to discuss the Russian defensive posture after the war.  Read it and though Gawd, are we Europeans and the Russians to be permanently condemned to living like that?  The new Festung Europa on the one side and Fortress Russia on the other?
 
In the 90’s the Russians had very little along the NATO border.  Then it was one division.  Now, if memory serves, I recollect Shoigu saying a year of two back it was going to be up to eleven.  March 2024 the number talked of was 14.  Some of these divisions in posse rather than in esse or currently deployed elsewhere but plans to fill them out.  The Moscow and Leningrad Military Districts to be beefed up.  Kaliningrad also.  Plans for going up to 40 divisions by 2028.
 
In addition, in part outside the European theatre, the Russians have to be ready to counter Western attempts at destabilisation all along their perimeter.  Just before the SMO the Russians had to airlift a couple of thousand men to Kazakhstan to counter what looked very much like a Western destabilisation attempt there.   Ukraine will no doubt be over fairly soon but as I think both “b” and Berletic consider, that’s not going to be the end of it by any means. 
 
An adequate defensive posture for the Russians in these circumstances looks like turning the country into an armed camp.  When Belousov took over there was talk of ensuring that the Russian defence industry would be prepared for dual purpose later – tank factories moving over to tractors etc. – but equipping this huge army and keeping ahead on the arms  technological front is still going to be a permanent drain on the Russian economy.
 
On our side, the European armies are of little account at present and the European economies have cut their own throats with the sanctions.   The Americans a busted flush militarily – that was one of the startling revelations of the last four years, that when it came to it the mountain laboured and brought forth a mouse.   It’s still 150 million against the Golden Billion.  We’ll no doubt be able to deploy more than we can afford up against the Russian border and if the Chinese are kind enough to continue supplying components, arm them.
 
That’s what our politicians want.   A somewhat moth-eaten Festung Europa permanently at odds with Russia.  Have to wait and see whether they get it.

Posted by: English Outsider | Apr 27 2026 11:17 utc | 70

Knock Ukraine out of the war, the war just moves to somewhere else (…) conquest of western Ukraine would lead to a long-term Vietnam-type insurgency fed by US dollars and weaponsPosted by: Clever Dog | Apr 27 2026 9:39 utc | 69
 
Knock out or forever war? You can’t have both at the same time.
There aren’t many options when dealing with proxies. You can be smart and avoid it or attack first when they’re not ready, but it’s too late for both. You can fight the proxy until it’s destroyed and make an example out of them to make others think twice. You could directly fight the master but that is not going to happen. Or you can surrender to the master in Anchorage and continue to fight the proxy until it surrenders, left without US resources. Unfortunately Putin was fooled again and forgot that Euronato and their friends SK, Japan and others can fund the war because it’s so cheap. Forgot that US can support Euronato for money as if nothing has changed. And if Trump doesn’t manage to become a king, in just a few years Vicky will be back in power. Which is something China must approve because with Trump at the buttons Xi can become room mate with Maduro and Diddy.
If there are other options for dealing with retarded kamikaze proxies please share. 

Posted by: rk | Apr 27 2026 11:20 utc | 71

“thought”.  Sorry about that.   I did proof read before submitting.  But proof reading is not my forte.

Posted by: English Outsider | Apr 27 2026 11:20 utc | 72

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 27 2026 8:43 utc | 65  “Well, this is categorically false”
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Funny.  Go read the news and opinion articles in the local news back in 2022 in Finland and Sweden.  It’s what the Finns and Swedes say. 

Posted by: ed4 | Apr 27 2026 12:18 utc | 73

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 27 2026 8:43 utc | 65
 
Well put. Indeed I think the whole of Scandinavia are full of Russiaphobia and it stems from the closure of WWII. Exactly why, I don’t know, apart from the usual anti-communism.

Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 27 2026 12:26 utc | 74

Posted by: rk | Apr 27 2026 11:20 utc | 71
 
Ultimately where things are headed is Russia must make an attack on the EU in a way that both shocks and paralyzes the elite in Brussels with the fear of God and breaks the economic backbone (whatever is left of it after decades of economic and societal rot and destruction by said elites). Right now how Brussels views things is they are far away from the ‘eastern front’ of Baltlet villages and Finland, they think they can continue ‘rearming Europe’ in peace in the core states of Netherlands, Germany, France and UK. This is a problem, they have zero fear, which is what causes them to do things we currently witness, unbarred and relentless attacks by drones in Ukraine and even on the Baltic territories.
 
If the war with the Baltic states happens, Russia should not limit it to the Baltics but wipe out one or more of these central European locations, like the port of Rotterdam. EuroNato is right now driving things in this direction. There are only very limited ways to maneuver out of the war path, especially as the Davos installed western governments are deliberately driving toward it as scripted.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 27 2026 12:58 utc | 75

Funny.  Go read the news and opinion articles in the local news back in 2022 in Finland and Sweden.  It’s what the Finns and Swedes say. 
Posted by: ed4 | Apr 27 2026 12:18 utc | 73

 
The ‘news’ in Sweden or Finland are 100% untrustworthy, even more so with the polls related to support of Nato, which were created by cherry picking certain localized niche groups of the population, with certain political affiliations or areas most likely brainwashed by the mainstream media.
 
For example, the decision or justification used to unconstitutionally join Finland to Nato was made on the basis of a poll of ~1200 people, all cherrypicked on political affiliations, or the poll was even made among certain employees of national news agencies or newspapers.
 
So it’s hard to tell anything about real opinions on Nato and how they are really distributed among the general population.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 27 2026 13:03 utc | 76

unimperator | Apr 27 2026 8:49 utc | 66
*** We have heard German ‘defense’ minister Pistorius statements of a war by 2029. More recently he claimed the German army will become the most powerful in 2039. This implies a lack of determination or strategy on the part of Germany.***
 
What exactly are the likes of Pistorius (and the rest of the top politicians in “Europe”, including Britain) drivelling about?   All that really remains of the ‘countries’ to which they refer are the names.
They and their comparatively recent predecessors have deliberately inflicted a massive demographic / cultural destruction plus erosion to almost zero of ‘sovereignty’.
So what allegedly “German” army is he on about? 
A division of the monopoly-capitalist USA’s overseas imperial legion?
Or a WEF force for totalitarian internal control and repression?
Same questions apply re Britain.
European countries as still-functioning, largely foreign owned zombie / ghost entities with a thoroughly buggered identity and ruled by traitors …. consistently forced into NATO convergence with the fake USA “country” and various crap it pimps as “culture”, till they become pathetic emulations of it (though of course already minus both freedom of speech and any right of the public to be armed, so quite vanguardist in that respect).  
 
While the fatcat Zionists, liberals and neoliberals gloat, and a pretend-‘left’ self-righteously simpers within its own gangrenous bubble of violent wokist fantasies (safely devoid of serious economics and ideology).
 
So who and what does Pisstorius really work for?

Posted by: Cynic | Apr 27 2026 13:19 utc | 77

If the war with the Baltic states happens, Russia should not limit it to the Baltics but wipe out one or more of these central European locations, like the port of Rotterdam. 
 
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 27 2026 12:58 utc | 75
 
if RF has been serially producing the iskander 1000 for a full year (and basing them in kalingrad ) then much of non Greco-roman Europe is in range (not only Rotterdam ), so inexpensive conventional escalation is now a thing.
 
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/russia-new-iskander1000-missile-doubled-range-greater-accuracy
Meanwhile , 1.145 AFU casualties (maybe only 1000, the rest mercs)
 
https://tass.com/politics/2122983
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 27 2026 13:40 utc | 78

@English Outsider | Apr 27 2026 11:17 utc | 70
“Ukraine will no doubt be over fairly soon but as I think both “b” and Berletic consider, that’s not going to be the end of it by any means.”
 
Maybe? I counter that what’s happened is something nobody predicted, nobody wants and nobody (really) knows how to handle, so we’re kind of just blundering through it. Which to be fair, is a good summary of life in general.
 
Modern warfare (true peer to peer or near-peer) has indeed brought us back to a similar state as was found in 1915, militarily speaking. The reason Russia hasn’t won yet is because they can’t. Likewise, Ukraine and the West, also can’t win. This is not due to lack of trying or resources on either side, but a fundamental shift that -should- terrify everyone, especially the observers who draw the wrong conclusions by guffawing at the slow progress by either side.
 
Now -YES- Russia is very slowly winning. At tremendous cost. After more than two years, Chasov Yar still has areas that the AFU can control or infiltrate. It took 1.5 years to take Pokrovsk. Konstaninovka is in the middle of a painful grind that’s been going for months and will continue for months (or longer!) None of these facts point to a weakness in either side but rather a missing element.
 
The whole manual needs to be thrown out and new one written. While this is happening quietly in the background, nobody wants to openly admit that everything they’ve based entire careers on is now a bunch of hogwash.  Imagine if you were a Mongol horse-archer in 1572. Top of your game. Centuries of military tradition, culture training, combat experience all stand behind you. And, due to changes in technology, weaponry and tactics, you are now obsolete. 
 
That is where we are today. We can’t compare this conflict to WW2, or any other conflict before it as this is the first time in history that cheap, ubiquitous drones have completely changed the game. Not augmented. Not given one side an advantage over the other. Irrevocably altered the battlespace. Part of this means the creation of kill zones, no go areas for either side. Doesn’t matter how many troops you have.
 
To your point about fortress Europe or fortress Russia- these things are the end result of the new way of warfare. When small numbers of drone teams hidden in cellars can make an entire army spend more than a year of grinding to take a city of 100,000, yes, everything is and does become a fortress. 
 
What’s the answer to all this? I have no clue. I think it’s likely Russia will “win” as they are adapting and do have more resources in the game. But AFU after more than 4 years is still able to fight in an organized manner and  but if you call a 5 or 6 year war just to take Donetsk a win- yikes.
 
Happy to be wrong about this. I am after all, just a clown.
 
 

Posted by: Clown Shoes | Apr 27 2026 15:11 utc | 79

FollowingPublished by: Clown Shoes | April 27, 2026, 3:11 PM UTC | 79
 
Inventing new technologies…..
I’m no one to point out something new.However, I’d like to describe what recently occurred to me.Today we have drones… jet-powered, motor-powered, battery-powered, large, portable and non-portable, with or without fiber, etc.
Bulky stuff, anyway.
I’d propose building mini drones, the size of a bumblebee, with a single bullet of the caliber needed to kill a human being.
Battery-powered.
Programmed to identify a human and kill him by shooting him in the face.
With good software. (Nothing impossible these days.)
Then, load a huge quantity of them onto a cargo plane and unload them on the chosen target.
Who can stop such a small monster from descending from the sky, swooping down on you, and killing you?
Especially if thousands of them are attacking you at once?
 
Total destruction of the soldiers: which is what war must be done.
Afterwards?
You do it.

Posted by: kammamuri | Apr 27 2026 15:33 utc | 80

Posted by: kammamuri | Apr 27 2026 15:33 utc | 80
 
Lol if it’s bumblebee sized it’d last maybe 5 minutes before running out of battery. 
 
Drone counters are already avaliable in the form of anti drone shotgun loadouts and anti drone interceptor drones for the smaller types. It’s just not widely mass produced enough and military production / training lagging behind. 

Posted by: MLP | Apr 27 2026 15:55 utc | 81

Posted by: Clown Shoes | Apr 27 2026 15:11 utc | 79
 
The side who figures out a nearly foolproof way of taking down FPV drones en-masse economically will steamroll over the other side.
 
Yes, they have the anti-drone shotguns, and some prototypes of anti-drone drone interceptors. Maybe there will be rapid-fire short range, mobile AI controlled air defense systems for FPV drones with integrated radars. 
 
But drones are proliferating so fast that non of these solutions are really effective, and soon they’ll be AI controlled swarms. Maybe they could have like localized/minituarized EMPs, that can take down all drones in X radius.
 
Maybe there will be a space aspect in this, targeting low orbit Starlink satellites. But that will take years to materialize.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 27 2026 16:06 utc | 82

There is a common response from Putin cultists when Putin’s failures – those that even the cultists can’t ignore – are pointed out that Russia “shouldn’t change leaders in wartime.” Rubbish. Wartime is exactly when one absolutely must change leaders who have failed to bring victory. The alternative is that said leaders have an incentive to keep the war going indefinitely as the best way to remain in power. See ꑭelensky.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Apr 27 2026 0:17 utc | 46
 
 
Have you guys seen Putin live at any point over the last five days?
As an “Ossi” [former East German], I’ve known of him for a long time, but when I saw him live on RT this past Thursday, I was shocked by how quickly he has aged—or, to put it another way, just how “old” he looks now. Even his gait and facial expressions seemed somehow artificial—I wouldn’t go so far as to say “feeble,” but simply… different. There *was* a close-up shot, admittedly, but it lasted only a few seconds… (Cue the tinfoil hats: Was it actually a different person?)
Saying something like this—or even just questioning it—seems to trigger an uproar here in the Bar every single time… but I’m sticking to my guns: he looks different—more like someone who is currently trying to recover from something, but isn’t quite managing to pull it off.

Posted by: Genesis | Apr 27 2026 16:21 utc | 83

Maybe there will be a space aspect in this, targeting low orbit Starlink satellites. But that will take years to materialize.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 27 2026 16:06 utc | 82
 
 
That’s not quite accurate—at least not regarding Starlink and the capability to destroy these satellites.
Such capabilities have existed on the Russian and Chinese sides for a very long time, and they are constantly being refined.The real issue, however, is this: who wants to be the first to blow up the satellites that are causing them trouble? And which satellite would be next? Taking Starlink out of the sky is likely the easiest part of the whole exercise. They know exactly why satellites are treated as “sacred cows”—until a real-world conflict breaks out; at that point, they will be the very first things to go—indeed, they *must* be eliminated—in order to ensure survival.

Posted by: Genesis | Apr 27 2026 16:27 utc | 84

unimperator | Apr 27 2026 16:06 utc | 82
*** But drones are proliferating so fast that non of these solutions are really effective, and soon they’ll be AI controlled swarms. Maybe they could have like localized/minituarized EMPs, that can take down all drones in X radius. ***
 
Unfortunately, the extreme weaponising + intensifying of comparatively local weather systems is bound t0 be tried, sooner or later. After all, where’s the fun in having a haarp if nobody plays it…… 
 

Posted by: Cynic | Apr 27 2026 16:39 utc | 85

@ Genesis | Apr 27 2026 16:27 utc | 84 “Taking Starlink out of the sky is likely the easiest part of the whole exercise.”
 
Apologies- good points but I have to disagree. The issue is similar to the one with drones. Sheer scale. Do the Russians have thousands of anti-satellite weapons and the means to get those thousands of weapons into space in a short period of time? No. All ASAT tests have been “boutique” operations to prove that you could do a thing after months of careful planning. I would be surprised if the RF, or the U.S, or any major power has more than a few dozen (or, maybe, a few hundred ASATS) – that wouldn’t make a dent in starlink.
 
Starlinks are cheap, plentiful and easily replaced. In fact, that’s by design. Within 5 years the entire constellation needs to be replaced as satellites have limited fuel having to maneuver to close to the earth. And with reusable orbital class boosters, they can replace starlinks faster than anyone could shoot them down.

Posted by: Clown Shoes | Apr 27 2026 16:48 utc | 86

Unfortunately, the extreme weaponising + intensifying of comparatively local weather systems is bound t0 be tried, sooner or later. After all, where’s the fun in having a haarp if nobody plays it……  
Posted by: Cynic | Apr 27 2026 16:39 utc | 85
 
 

Posted by: Genesis | Apr 27 2026 16:52 utc | 87

There is a common response from Putin cultists when Putin’s failures

Cultists is a strange word to describe thinking people with arguments you dont like. I might describe you and your fellow travellers constant focus on Putin as obsession.
That obsession makes sense given he has single handedly been the biggest spoke in the wheel of Western machinations for two decades. It sounds like sour grapes from those who are upset that Putins pragmatism has led the US and the Western vassals to its current existential crisis.
 

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 27 2026 16:52 utc | 88

Spike =/= spoke

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 27 2026 16:52 utc | 89

Unfortunately, the extreme weaponising + intensifying of comparatively local weather systems is bound t0 be tried, sooner or later. After all, where’s the fun in having a haarp if nobody plays it……  Posted by: Cynic | Apr 27 2026 16:39 utc | 85
 
 
That… would be Pandora’s Box.
Woe betide us if it were ever revealed which government lies behind which catastrophe.Even today—and of this I am convinced—this has been exploited… and likely kept secret under penalty of death. The world would cease to trade with such a government—as would the global population—for the blame would not stop at just a single attribution; no one would ever believe any assurances again.  

Posted by: Genesis | Apr 27 2026 16:53 utc | 90

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 27 2026 16:06 utc | 82
 
Shotguns are widely avaliable but not standard infantry kitted. They’re very effective against fpvs with proper training. 
 
Anti drone interceptors are 1 for 1 more cost effective than offensive suicide drones due to the later having to carry large payloads and fuel for long distances, while the interceptors only needing small amounts of both to work.
 
There’s even reusable thermal lance varieties been used by the Russians that it’s even more cost efficient. 
 
These are more than enough for the current levels of drone warfare.
 
As Starlink satellites, the capability is there for taking them out today. But the decision to not take them down is mostly concern about orbital debris and further escalation.

Posted by: MLP | Apr 27 2026 16:54 utc | 91

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 27 2026 16:06 utc | 82
 
Also super high tech counters you’re thinking of like emp and dedicated AI anti drone AA into problems of been impractical (emp) or the latter been expensive and sitting ducks for conventional missiles.
 
If you follow Russian military development, they already have these things tested and figured out. It’s just a matter of bureaucracy and production amounts not as optimized as they should be. 

Posted by: MLP | Apr 27 2026 17:08 utc | 92

“As Starlink satellites, the capability is there for taking them out today. But the decision to not take them down is mostly concern about orbital debris and further escalation.”
 
You’re right about the capability on paper, academically speaking. In practical application? Not a hope in hell. Yes, ASAT weapons exist since the 80’s that can take out satellites in low earth orbit. However, how many of them exist? The starlink constellation is well over 10,000 satellites (growing to 40,000) 
 
There isn’t a single organization on the planet that has the means of taking out 10,000 satellites unless you’re using nuclear weapons. At which point – game over, it’s WW3. But conventionally speaking? Most any country may have today is up to a few hundred (max) bespoke ASAT’s, and you can be sure that the cost of building and deploying a single ASAT is exponentially more expensive than the cost of replacing that starlink. 
 
So, no, RF can’t take out the entire starlink constellation. With that said, they absolutely -could- start “clearing lanes” around Ukraine and Russia. Basically killing the satellites as they pass overhead, causing deadzones of coverage. They would be better off doing this with a directed energy weapon (lasers causing burn out of key components) vs anything kinetic as the results are way too unpredictable. 
 
However, they absolutely won’t. Space is a shared medium, and everyone’s satellites are using it. If you go online right now and look at a live view of our satellite map (and yes of course this doesn’t show you everything!), at any given moment you’ll see a smorgasbord of nations flying over your head. Once someone starts taking out satellites, that means theirs are fair game.
 
Best case scenario is if they are able to effectively create the deadzone in coverage without harming the vehicle. This means jamming the coms between the satellite and the ground, also something technically doable on paper but much easier said then done for a variety of reasons.
 

Posted by: Clown Shoes | Apr 27 2026 17:15 utc | 93

Posted by: Clown Shoes | Apr 27 2026 16:48 utc | 86
 
As with everything it is a whole lot easier to destroy than to create.
 
Normal ballistic missiles can reach low orbit where star link satellites are located. Once you blow a few of them up, the orbital debris will clutter the entire space and cause a cascade effect where it will destroy other satellites and prevent other orbital satellites from been launched. 

Posted by: MLP | Apr 27 2026 17:16 utc | 94

North Korean leader, Kim Jong Un got a German Leopard 2A4 as a gift from Russia
 
It’ll be displayed at a newly opened military museum in Pyongyang

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/162904

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 27 2026 17:25 utc | 95

Posted by: MLP | Apr 27 2026 17:16 utc | 94 “Normal ballistic missiles can reach low orbit where star link satellites are located.”
The missiles would need a new type of seeker and the Star Link satellites can do some on orbit maneuvering. 

Posted by: ed4 | Apr 27 2026 17:33 utc | 96

Oh right, this reminds me. If Musk starts putting his AI data centers in space like he wanted, wouldn’t he be double fucked in this scenario? 
 
All those Starlinks gone, then the even more expensive AI satellites kabut…. 

Posted by: MLP | Apr 27 2026 17:34 utc | 97

The missiles would need a new type of seeker and the Star Link satellites can do some on orbit maneuvering. 
Posted by: ed4 | Apr 27 2026 17:33 utc | 96
 
Satellites are tracked by radar. Standard radar guidance works just fine.
 
Low speed satellite thrusters cannot hope to dodge or outrun ballistic missiles. 

Posted by: MLP | Apr 27 2026 17:48 utc | 98

Posted by: Clown Shoes | Apr 27 2026 17:15 utc | 93
 
It’s not viable to take down satellites with ASAT missiles. There are simply too many, and ASAT missiles aren’t the cheapest missiles.
 
A space based solution is needed. A rapidly maneuverable craft with solar-rechargeable plasma/laser weapons, or perhaps even a rapidly maneuverable and acceleration capable craft carrying a large steel net (parabola shaped) ‘garbage collector. So it can fly and catch satellites in its garbage collector, when it’s full, it can accelerate and send them off to outer space and return to duty.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 27 2026 17:57 utc | 99

“Normal ballistic missiles can reach low orbit where star link satellites are located. Once you blow a few of them up, the orbital debris will clutter the entire space and cause a cascade effect where it will destroy other satellites and prevent other orbital satellites from been launched. 
Posted by: MLP | Apr 27 2026 17:16 utc | 94″
 
Fun thought experiment!
 
1) That would cause WW3. By causing the Kessler syndrome, RF would be denying access to orbital space to themselves as well. No satellites for anybody!
 
Let’s assume WW3 doesn’t happen though (which it would. Taking out satellites is a blinding first strike opening move which would like trigger full nuclear release) 
 
2) If it didn’t create a full on Kessler swarm or global atomic destruction, and for some reason the energetic debris of 10,000 satellites being smashed -did not- result in a complete loss of access to space for everyone, RF would promptly lose all their satellites in retaliation. ASATs to LEO are not a new thing and it’s not just the RF that has that capability.
 
Even MORE fun- let’s play this through and in a very interesting turn of events there is no complete loss of access to space, no WW3 and no kessler syndrome?
 
Even in that event, Starlink still comes out ahead. Total cost to build and launch starlinks is between 1-1.5 million per satellite (and going down) and, again, they have to completely replace the constellation every 5 years anyway.
 
In order to wipeout -all- + 10,000 starlinks, even with cascade effects you’d need to launch A LOT of ballistic missiles. It would be a fun math excercise to figure out how many but space is very big and there’s many different “lanes” that would have to be covered. Cost to build and launch a ballistic missile that can get to a 400 km altitude? It’s a hell of a lot more than the cost of the starlink(s) they’d be killing. That would just get replaced anyways.
 
 

Posted by: Clown Shoes | Apr 27 2026 18:07 utc | 100