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April 16, 2026
Open (Not Ukraine or Iran) Thread 2026-075

News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Iran …

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The Iran and Ukraine war are completely related, hence my judgement in placing that comment in this open.

Posted by: RidethSpacethMontanyas | Apr 16 2026 15:59 utc | 1

Re; Insolvency Crisis for the Federal Gov’t ?
my estimate is 2027 brings an insolvency crisis upon the Federal Gov’t because more than 30% of Federal Revenues will be consumed by interest payments on the Federal Debt. The Bond Market believes US Federal debt is much MUCH more risky than Chinese debt. 
 
4.3% – 10 year US Gov’t Debt
1.9% – 10 year PRC Gov’t Debt

Posted by: exile | Apr 16 2026 16:03 utc | 2

The US Labor Market is shrinking except for the Healthcare industry due the rise of unhealthy people and aging population.
 
AI is displacing a large white collar Work Force less than the AI investors projection.
 
Jeromy Powell also said he empathized with the current generation graduated into a dismissing labor market and AI job displacement and an economic disruption cause by geopolitical forces.

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 16 2026 16:17 utc | 3

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 16 2026 16:17 utc | 3
since 95% of work is a complete waste of time, vanity of vanities as the KJV Bible styles it, the huffing and puffing of pointless hot air, the real problem is not lack of work.
 
who could ever think that lack of work is a problem? who the hell thinks like this?
 
lack of work is freedom.
 
except to wage slaves. and their masters. “If you don’t work, you don’t eat.”
 
i vote that the new currency for the new leisure economy that we are about to enter to be 24 hour Alcoholics Anonymous sobriety chips.  I’ll start out waaaaaaaay ahead, just like Donald Trump did. maybe I can get my name put on the 24 hour sobriety token. 
 
The Byrds – She Don’t Care About Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35FIXggRy-M
 
what in the world is more valuable than my own free time?
 
 

Posted by: duck n cover | Apr 16 2026 16:39 utc | 4

lack of work is freedom

Well, I am exchanging my labor for tokens that can be traded for foods and rents.
 
Freedom sounds nice but I don’t have the financial freedom to be free yet.

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 16 2026 16:57 utc | 5

When will Americans rise?
 
Velvet Underground – Rock & Roll around 1970: “despite all the amputations, you could just go out and dance to the rock and roll station.”
 
since 1970, what has changed about limb amputation in the US?
 
“…every textbook Red said, ‘Bring me the bread,’ but we got you instead.” MARCH WORKERS MARCH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acT_PSAZ7BQ
The Coup – The Guillotine 
 
where Americans supposed to march to? McDonald’s? you can tell who is eating too much food, all this empty blubbering about the working class doing something.

Posted by: duck n cover | Apr 16 2026 17:00 utc | 6

if the working class won’t get off its ass about the Potomac River, it’s never going to.

Posted by: duck n cover | Apr 16 2026 17:02 utc | 7

duck n cover | Apr 16 2026 16:39 utc | 4
 
Trouble arises when you ive in a cash economy and have no means to gain cash or have land to raise food that you might sell and eat. Ultimately, the core problem is the need for cash to pay tax. Even if you have land, you still need cash to pay the tax levied on your land. There’s no escape from a cash economy barring some exceptionally rare circumstances very few get to experience.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 16 2026 17:04 utc | 8

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 16 2026 16:57 utc | 5
who ain’t a slave? the person who can buy his own fire department? or hunker in the bunker on his own private island? we are all in it together.
 
watching millions of people acting like robots daily, hourly, around the DC metro area when overnight an already foul and toxic Potomac was turned into the River Styx….
 
noses they have, but cannot smell…can these dead bones live? Oh Lord, you know….
 
all streams flow to one Ocean…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMh9hPGNGKE
Airplane! – River of Jordan
 
btw, as the plane is crashing, here comes the voice of religious officialdom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V4qRDozJFQ
Airport (1975) – Singing Nun Scene – singing to a cancer-ridden child: you can rely on yourself. Trust the power of “Yes!”
 

Posted by: duck n cover | Apr 16 2026 17:29 utc | 9

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 16 2026 17:04 utc | 8
yeah, a lot of us already have this problem. what’s the penalty for selling SNAP benefits? whereas scamming seniors out of social security is a booming biz.
 
what is work? the Pat Batemans of the world don’t work. fishing a sammich out of the new and improved homeless-proof public trash cans is work. you think spending a day scouring sidewalks for an unscratched lotto ticket is easy?!?!?!? for God’s sake, be kind, leave a little on the end of the cigarette butt! it’s like leaving the corners of the tobacco fields ungleaned, for the orphan children of the asphalt to harvest. Trust me, there are true entrepreneurial spirits who rise before dawn to collect all the butts scattered around the restaurants and bars from the night’s activities. And their homeless neighbors envy them. and from such envy arises the urge to self-improvement, esp by stealing from someone else. 
 
See? capitalism works! 

Posted by: duck n cover | Apr 16 2026 17:44 utc | 10

What % of food in the US is simply tossed into the trash?
 
how much money does the US spend every year to lock its trash cans? to keep all that treasure secure?
 
and what is the point of the “non-profits”, mostly religious, passing out the GMO high-fructose crumbs? 

Posted by: duck n cover | Apr 16 2026 17:49 utc | 11

Karkof –
Only in the USA does one pay thousands upon thousands in property taxes every year, one never owns ones property……in other countries that not the case:
For example: ask too scents what his property taxes are.  
A Buddy of mine moved to Austria a few years ago, just outside Salzburg in a tony suburb. Nice House circa 2,000sqft with ~8,000sqft. Lot
 
His annual property taxes 250€ (~$300)
 
 

Posted by: Exile | Apr 16 2026 18:04 utc | 12

right before the plane crash due to heart attack in “Airport” (1975), the know-nothing head stewardess says routinely, “… and put out your cigarettes…” times change.
 
tobacco, cocoa, cotton, sugar, coffee, alcohol incl distilled spirits, opium, etc., all spread all over the world from the “new world,” along with lots of other stuff. like beef.
 
while spreading tobacco et al everywhere, what else? the missionary. it’s not just guns and lash, but food, drugs and religion.
 
and sitting in cars. hurray for diabetes and autism.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qlUFKFHNIU 
NIN: “Cars” with Gary Numan, London 7.15.09 [HD]  

Posted by: duck n cover | Apr 16 2026 18:11 utc | 13

https://seekingalpha.com/news/4575844-henry-paulson-sounds-alarm-on-potential-treasury-market-shock
This warning is from a credible authority and seems timely.

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 16 2026 18:22 utc | 14

Note -Seeking Alpha is run out of Israel by some ex-8200 types. Its slso been associated with a number of pump and dump financial scams. 

Posted by: Exile | Apr 16 2026 18:50 utc | 15

 
Henry Paulson sounds alarm on potential Treasury market shock
Former U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is urging policymakers to prepare contingency measures to stabilize the government bond market in the event of a sudden drop in demand for U.S. Treasuries, warning such a scenario could trigger severe financial disruption.
 
Paulson emphasized the importance of having a rapid-response plan ready to deploy if market conditions deteriorate. Unlike the 2008 financial crisis, he noted, today’s risks are tied more directly to the scale of federal debt and the government’s ongoing financing needs.
 
He cautioned that a breakdown in the roughly $31 trillion Treasury market could create a dangerous feedback loop. As investors demand higher yields to compensate for rising fiscal risks, borrowing costs would climb, further expanding budget deficits and increasing the government’s reliance on debt issuance.
 
In a worst-case scenario, Paulson suggested the Federal Reserve could become the primary buyer of government debt if private demand weakens significantly—an outcome that could drive bond prices lower and push interest rates higher. While the timing of such stress is uncertain, Paulson warned that the consequences could be abrupt and severe, underscoring the need for proactive planning. 

Posted by: exile | Apr 16 2026 19:31 utc | 16

Trump will replace Jeromy Powell when his term expires with some incompetent sycophant that may implement Trump’s vision of near 0% interest rate similar to what Edorgan did with the Turkish Lira. 
 
I should buy essential goods and video games before the tards may wreck the economy again.

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 16 2026 19:51 utc | 17

change in avg age of US Congress
ten-year moving averages of growth of various stat
I did not check these. And they omit context, but I think 1980 really was a hinge. Basically the babyboomers did so well the system stuck with them.
 
5 years ago if you asked me I would have named Wilson & Truman as 2 of 3 of the worst US presidents. Now my opinion is Biden & Trump have eclipsed even them. Each with the two biggest, stupidest foreign policy mistakes in the country’s history. With Trump’s the worst of all.

Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | Apr 16 2026 20:12 utc | 18

I meant the babyboomers did so well early on …

Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | Apr 16 2026 20:14 utc | 19

Imagine Trump is the worst president so far and there could be even a worser president in the future

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 16 2026 20:16 utc | 20

So, frequent commenter duck n cover, what solutions do you suggest?

Posted by: tucenz | Apr 16 2026 20:20 utc | 21

Exile | Apr 16 2026 18:04 utc | 12
 
Yes, it’s more similar to lease-hold than fee-simple. There’re other ways to finance societies, but most all rely on taxation of some sort–even tariffs are a tax. How does a government eliminate poverty? It increases its economy’s production to the point where enough can be siphoned off to subsidize the impoverished, while also educating them so they can help raise the economy’s rate of production which is what lifted them and will continue doing that for them and others. Yes, problems arise when the rate of production falls, so it’s up to the economy’s managers to continually innovate and modernize so that problem is solved before it happens. Gee, that happens to be the operative goal of China’s political economy.   

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 16 2026 20:40 utc | 22

1+1=2 but how many know what 3, 4 and 5 are?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 16 2026 20:44 utc | 23

Another well done AI video on the progressive decline of America, to the tune of “Everybody Knows” by Leonard Cohen.
 
https://x.com/FurkanGozukara/status/2044805772421312757

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Apr 16 2026 20:46 utc | 24

How does a government eliminate poverty?
 
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 16 2026 20:40 utc | 22

 
I was born in the 1950’s. It was not the government’s role to eliminate poverty then. That work was done by local charities in communities where people helped each other.
 
 

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Apr 16 2026 20:50 utc | 25

Imagine Trump is the worst president so far and there could be even a worser president in the future
Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 16 2026 20:16 utc | 20
 
Worser? seriously?

Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 16 2026 20:50 utc | 26

AntiVaxxer Cocaine addict RFK jr said: There is a Global Measle epidemic and we’ve done a better job to prevent it than anyone.
 
Rep. Sanchez: The USA sees the biggest increase in the world.

Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 16 2026 20:53 utc | 27

Karloff @22, what’s your take on “degrowth”, given the impending climate calamity and all.

Posted by: drinky crow | Apr 16 2026 20:53 utc | 28

Karloff @22, what’s your take on “degrowth”, given the impending climate calamity and all.

Posted by: drinky crow | Apr 16 2026 20:54 utc | 29

”Karlofi”. Sorry, stupid phone…..

Posted by: drinky crow | Apr 16 2026 20:55 utc | 30

tobacco, cocoa, cotton, sugar, coffee, alcohol incl distilled spirits, opium, etc., all spread all over the world from the “new world,”
 
Posted by: duck n cover | Apr 16 2026 18:11 utc | 13
Not to be argumentative, but alcohol, coffee and opium did not come from the new world, neither did sugar (although cane sugar did and was an improvement), and cotton developed concurrently in several areas.  

Posted by: Joy Polloi | Apr 16 2026 21:01 utc | 31

Many alcoholic beverages arose from humanity’s attempts at purifying, or at least disinfecting, drinking water supplies.
 
Hic…
 
😀

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 16 2026 21:11 utc | 32

Talk among yourselves while I test out some Unicodes:
 
😀 😄 😴 🙆 🙃 😝
 
M’kay, some work, some don’t.
 
Apologies for the interruption, we now return to normal broadcasts…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 16 2026 21:25 utc | 33

 Fool Me Twice | Apr 16 2026 20:50 utc | 25
 
The New Deal was about eliminating poverty in the 1930s. Do, please, read some history.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 16 2026 21:40 utc | 34

Posted by: Joy Polloi | Apr 16 2026 21:01 utc | 31
yeah, but who invented Cotton Candy? and all my heroin came from ‘Nam. (j/k)
 
whoever invented ice cream needs a triumphal arch.
 
there’s tobacco, and there’s Marlboro lights. Welcome to flavor country. W/Steel Reserve 211, these are the blessings of the poor.
 
who invented haranguing and harassing poor people for the methods used to free themselves briefly from the tyranny of the machine? the factory owner’s priests.
 
hemp isn’t new. who bans its use and why?
 
anyway, the rulers who fill the world w/tobacco and all other kinds of addiction also fill the world w/the religion that every child must learn, the “light that lightens everyone who comes into the world,” incl Pope Leo: God is NOT a communist. “idolatrous greed is bad.” not just plain ol’ greed. just enough greed for a little bit of usury.

Posted by: duck n cover | Apr 16 2026 21:54 utc | 35

Worser? seriously?
Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 16 2026 20:50 utc | 26
 
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I thought killer Doll was a young fella. Maybe he has been around much longerer much morer longerer than us…

Posted by: General Factotum | Apr 16 2026 21:56 utc | 36

”Karlofi”. Sorry, stupid phone…..
Posted by: drinky crow | Apr 16 2026 20:55 utc | 30
 
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It gets worserer. Your phone is much morer stupider than first thought,
 
Sorry, I’ll see myself outer.

Posted by: General Factotum | Apr 16 2026 22:01 utc | 37

Pope “idolatrous greed is bad” Leo in Cameroon:
“”The world is being ravaged by a handful of tyrants. The masters of war pretended not to know that it takes only a moment to destroy…They turn a blind eye to the fact billions of dollars are spent on killing and devastation…” 
 
when everything about you, Pope Leo, every word, every breath, every thought, every gesture, is a sanctified and holy con job and fraud, there is no slip of the tongue. Nothing is misspoken. just like with Bezos, or with Trump.
 
Who are these “tyrants”? What countries? Any particular businesses and board members? 
 
best to be careful outing one’s business partners. of the tens of billions of dollars the church’s business partners in the US state spend annually terrorizing immigrants, Catholic Charities just lost $11 million in “immigrant support services” from the USG, cuz Leo is running his mouth. Oh no! the business partnership is threatened.
 
And thank you Pope Leo. Not only do you cover up the scale of the crimes, you completely cover up the prison system, the surveillance state, the automation of state propaganda, etc. Why?
 
cuz you are all partners. now go get some more school privatization scams running while blabbing about education. 

Posted by: duck n cover | Apr 16 2026 22:04 utc | 38

Tobacco. Humans have used it since whenever. I looked up the native tobaccos here one time. Found a chart the showed the nicotine and nor-nicotine content of each variety. Some powerful shit here. But one, from central Australia was exceptionally high on nicotine something like ten times stronger than the American tobaccos and no nor-nicotine.
 
Bought a packet of seeds but never got round to planting them.  The leaves were that strong in nicotine though, they’d likely need mixing with dried law clippings or something.  Illegal to grow tobacco here yet the native tobacco plants can be planted as ornamentals.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 16 2026 22:13 utc | 39

drinky crow | Apr 16 2026 20:55 utc | 30
 
Thanks for your reply and query. I suggest you look at what’s been happening here in America (I’m assuming you’re an American) since 1988 and the rise of what was called the Service Economy, which was a euphemism for “degrowth.” Genuine GDP was fudged more and more to hide the fact that actual production was declining because it was being offshored. The Dot.Com Bubble and so-called Asian Financial Crisis were all products of Greenspan’s economic policies to promote Neoliberalism and demote Industrial Capitalism, the latter being what made America the power it once was. Another metric to look at is the Homeless Crisis that burst onto the scene and cost GHW Bush his second term–it wasn’t just his broken promise to not raise taxes. If you recall, Clinton made very serious promises about healthcare system reform to a single-payer system, which is why I voted for him. His promises became lies because Hillery worked to destroy the process, which is when my hatred for the Clinton’s began–late 1993 when I relocated to Hawaii again to get its state mandated healthcare. 
 
Degrowth has already begun eating away at the Service Economy, and we already know how poorly manufacturing is performing. Hell, we lack the skilled workforce to construct high tech factories, which is what all those Koreans were doing in Georgia when ICE raided their factory and all but one opted for deportation even after Trump intervened and lied saying it was all a mistake and they were invited to remain and work. I don’t know if that battery factory ever was completed. A Chinese term was coined at the end of last year that I picked up on–The Killing Line–which is the area of income in America where you no longer qualify for any government aid that goes roughly from 30-100K/yr and is closely related to a person’s amount of debt. 
 
Back in the 1950s, Isaac Asimov explored the issue of robots replacing retail workers and how society might react, although he didn’t address factory automation. He also put forth the notion of people forgetting how to make/run things, Atomics was what he chose. I’m certain he was very disappointed there was extremely little public discussion on those issues then and there still isn’t despite the evidence it’s desperately needed. Given the forces that control the American government, raising production so people can be provided for is not anywhere near their minds. For them, the only people who count are the top 10% of the income pyramid, and all policies are made to enrich them exclusively. 
 
Until Americans understand that last sentence and its implications, nothing will improve, and conditions for all will worsen. Look at all the billions Trump is wasting on his Imperial ambitions. In his chat with Danny Haiphong yesterday, Zhang Weiwei said all those billions could have lifted all Americans out of poverty with enough remaining to eliminate most of the world’s extreme poverty. Americans were flat-out lied to by Trump so he could become president again and extract billions of grift for himself, his family and his Gang. Frankly, I’m surprised he hasn’t been shot at again. Meanwhile, living simply and reducing your personal debt as much as possible is the best practice. Better if you can form a collective that pools resources like the farmworkers did/do. Turn virtual networks into real human networks that do more than chat and aim at supporting the network. Small communities have done such things for generations.      

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 16 2026 22:23 utc | 40

I just did some of this, and documented it, right here on MoA, April 13th:
 
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00791R000200070001-9.pdf from synopsis: “precognition,which is known to no one until a future time, appears to work quite well” What the CIA has discovered in its studies on parapsychology, so have I.   Both of us discovered it exists, but is not predictable to use or rely on in any way.

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 17 2026 3:35 utc | 41

Looks like Link Limit ate up my first explanation, will try again:
 
First I posted this late Apr 13, to the Trump as Devil thread, where the thread itself was full of rumination about symbols, (and also where I talked a bit about my upbringing in what was essentially a coven of witches).  The only part I knew I had to include was in bold, I even looked it up to make sure I got the Pulp Fiction quote right:
 

PDon’t beg, don’t threaten.  It’s over for you.  Your time has come.  Pain is coming.  Ask for a second opinion next time, you’ll see.  You thought your whole life you could deceive and not meet a one of the throat chakra, from which all truth emanates, and can not be silenced.  Time and time again, I have warned your soul I see your demon hide and smell your demon breath every time, no matter what you call yourself, and every time, you have mocked me.  The demon will not leave you, no matter how much pain, for the demon is now your pain.
 
Judgment has passed, today, I have been waiting so long.  The hatred of righteousness will never be quelled until all those who attempt to poison my brothers are destroyed.     
 
Did you know mind control works best on people who study it?  So to do curses and magic.  I have been granted the blessing to revel in my haminja to release the emotions, from which all sorcerous power flows.   In universal harmony, I have been awake for over 24 hours after having slept for over 24 hours.  The lack of sleep opens the haminja regulators, often leading to illusions and visions, and heightened sorcerous power. 
Oh… ooohhhm, oohhhhm, remember the third eye taunting?  Now you will learn there are those who oohhhm ooohm for peace, harmony, and healing, and those who ohhhm, ohhhm ohhhm for justice, righteous retribution and pain upon all who deceive.  That retribution shall be upon your throat, your chakra you have abused your whole life, meant for truth, used for lies.  You thought it would be upon your liver, where your anger lives, oh no… no… you will see, you will see.  You will feel it when you swallow, when your throat is dry.  Worry not, it will be soon, soon, you will understand.

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 13 2026 21:55 utc | 248
 
 
_______________________________________________________
Then Giyane made a large post 5 hours later, with this little sentence about his father, so I marked it:
 
He died at 43 of throat cancer. 
 
Posted by: Giyane | Apr 14 2026 3:43 utc | 459 
 
 
This chakra again manifests the signal.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 14 2026 3:54 utc | 467
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then Today, in the Iran Open thread:
 
During his sermon, Pentagon Chief Hegseth quoted a fictional Bible verse from Tarantino’s film Pulp Fiction In Tarantino’s film, one of the main characters, Jules, presents this passage as his own interpretation and uses it to justify his life of crime— it was she whom Hegseth quoted as if it were an authentic biblical verse.: 

The path of the righteous is difficult, because it is hindered by the selfish and tyrannical evil people. Blessed is the shepherd who, in the name of mercy and kindness, leads the weak through the valley of darkness. For he is the one who truly cares for his neighbor and brings back lost children. And I will take great vengeance on them with fierce punishments, on those who plot to poison and harm my brothers. And you will know that I am the Lord when I take great vengeance on them.

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 16 2026 19:50 utc | 69
 
 
 

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 17 2026 4:40 utc | 42

@ UWDude | Apr 17 2026 3:35 utc | 41 with info about parapsychology….which is taught in China, by the way
You may want to visit the link below and learn more about what we don’t know but exists.
 
https://thetelepathytapes.com/podcast

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 17 2026 4:41 utc | 43

The original explainer was gone for a bit, then came back, so now there are two….
 
I don’t want to clog the Iran thread with the discussion, but tldr, the ability to remote view, (see a place far beyond sight), and precognition are not well understood but well established in studies.  The study recommends more studies, and there is I believe a newer army study that came to the same conclusions….
 
 
…the phenomenon is real, but there has been, as of yet, no way to “summon” the ability.  Basically, it happens at random times, and for random places.  You can not cast it to some spot you’ve never seen in the case of remote viewing,  nor can you  choose a time or event in the future and “look”.  All you can do is recognize the moment of precognition or remote viewing,  and document it, and even then, it is hazy.
 
So you cant just set up a crystal ball and ask who will win the super bowl and what is the score, of course.

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 17 2026 4:55 utc | 44

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 17 2026 4:41 utc | 44
 
cant really do podcasts, (my project requires massive concentration and mental discipline).   But thanks.
 
I’ve actually been here this week because I’ve been mildly sick, (except first 2 days)  for the first time since 2020.  Weird.  It’s like fevered dreams sometimes too…  is it the parasite itself, bad sleep? overabundance of t-cells? Who knows.

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 17 2026 5:23 utc | 45

Thursday Night post market 
 

US 3-MO

3,703

US 10-YR

4,319

 
to put into context, the average interest rate on Federal Debt in 2024 was 3.3%.  The current rates mean all debt rolled over and bew debt will be at significantly  higher rates. My guesstimate for 2026 is an average rate of 3.6% 
 
doesn‘t sound like much but 3.6% equates to 29% of Federal Revenues consumed by interest. 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Posted by: Exile | Apr 17 2026 5:36 utc | 46

The USDA’s Weekly Weather and Crop Bulletin is worth a glance, if you’re into that sort of thing.
 
https://www.usda.gov/sites/default/files/documents/wwcb.pdf
 
Hot off the press and mighty dry.
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 17 2026 5:48 utc | 47

lack of work is freedom.

Posted by: duck n cover | Apr 16 2026 16:39 utc | 4

Ya, As a human living modern era, I feel same, maybe many would feel same.

Obviously many “job” these days do not need to exist.
Somehow it looks pain.
In our country,as an employment measure for the elderly, they are employed as road monitors.
They are practically useless. However, the government provides such jobs as a means of income for the elderly with insufficient pensions.

Our world seems to feel taboo about distributing survival supplies for free simply because humans need them, which is why this happens.

Posted by: Nokaz | Apr 17 2026 6:08 utc | 48

The most obvious application of AI is to replace the political caste. 

Posted by: 666 | Apr 17 2026 6:20 utc | 49

3, 4 and 5. persiflo? general? Perhaps emersonreturns? Mathematicians – what is 3, 4 and 5?
 
Wadda you recon UW, what is 3,4 and five 🙂
 
But surely here are those that can use these numbers very commonly used. 3, 4, and 5. Throw some physics equations into it whatever. It is something used all the time.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 17 2026 7:38 utc | 50

persilfo and general, not to mention a few others, your complex maths equations I can only gawk at. Sometimes the simplest things in life are the foundations. 3, 4 and 5. About the most commonly used numbers in engineering.
 
Much needed in hands on work. Hardly a riddle wrapped in a mystery wrapped in an enigma.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 17 2026 7:53 utc | 51

Radius times pie is simple stuff. It just squares things up. commonly used
3, 4, and 5 = ?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 17 2026 8:07 utc | 52

 UWDude | Apr 17 2026 4:40 utc | 42
 
Symbols. Like me mentioning Geelong cos another oz mentioned Cliff young? for fuck sake dude, you’re as bad as Hegseth, Trump and Nutty. Dump the bullshit it get down to the more pragmatic thing of telling me what 3, 4, and 5 is.
 
Its a simple thing and commonly used.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 17 2026 8:14 utc | 53

“The most obvious application of AI is to replace the political caste.”
@666 | Apr 17 2026 6:20 utc | 49
Sssssh!
 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 17 2026 8:48 utc | 54

why do you keep @ing me?
 
It’s the 3,4,5 triangle. 30d 60d 90d.
 
I’m done with you.  after you marched on over to the Iran thread you had not been in for weeks to help dogpile me, along with all those socks and others, and I just kept telling you all to stop @ing me and i wont reply to you, I told you not to @ me, and you kept @ing me anyway with this “I’m gonna cut your guts out you stupid son of a bitch” bullshit.  Ok, old man.  I just figured I’d talk to you for a bit since your time here is limited.   That’s why I was doing it this whole time.  I don’t hate you, but I don’t have time for your bullshit.
 
Like I have tons of people @ me, I talk back to them.  The reason why I “dominate” threads is because people want to talk to me, mostly because I am here live, and get right back to them, if three or four people are talking to me, that means if each post 5 times, I have posted 20 times.  Suddenly “you’re posting too much, UWDude”
 
WTF am I supposed to do?  Just ignore them?
 
“sorry, got pick who I reply to now, too popular, and I pick only the top tier posts.  Please take a number”
 
WTF ever, man.
 
I could show a whole bunch of neat math stuff with 3 4 5 and binary and other number based systems, but math is what I do all day, and I’m not doing it right now because I’m still kind of sick.

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 17 2026 9:16 utc | 55

/perches on the brass bar
😀 Splash some of that fiery pond water in a saucer, bartender. The garden is getting sassy and I’m enjoying the show. The madness of the world must be leaving everyone a bit punchy, a touch giddy.
 
/hops toward an unclaimed popcorn
Please, do carry on!

Posted by: titmouse | Apr 17 2026 9:19 utc | 56

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 17 2026 9:16 utc | 55
 
P.S.  LoveDonbass was here live, too.   So his posts counts could go up really fast too, because it was more chat than post.  Lots of back and forth.  And sometimes, it would be just me, LoveDonbass and Tom_Q, and the sad sock monster who gets more and more schizophrenic the drunker he gets.
 
Then people would wake up, look at the posts, “OMG, How many posts are they gonna make?!  Let’s coutn how many and complain about them dominating the threads!!

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 17 2026 9:19 utc | 57

I never thought I liked Norm MacDonald.
 
His Weekly Update jokes were ok.
 
I found his stand up yesterday, I tried to find and watch every single joke he ever made.
 
He is really top tier. My god, the “12 minute joke” literally had me laughing the whole time, harder, and harder, and harder, once he got to the part where he was using the cheese sandwich to lure Janice, I was laughing with tears and could not stop laughing, five minutes straight, in fact, I think I literally have a little sore spot in my left lower ribs from laughing so much today. 

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 17 2026 9:40 utc | 58

Maybe even buy a lottery ticket?
I suggest any further discussion be moved over to the Open Thread (but you knew I was going to say that 🙂 )
Posted by: General Factotum | Apr 17 2026 8:22 utc | 269 (Iran thread)

 
Indeed 🙂 So here is my lottery ticket story –
 
But first – November 1963, my Dad dreamt that Gatum-Gatum would win the Melbourne Cup and laughingly told Mum – who insisted they actually bet on it. So they scraped up several pounds to bet at 25-1. The win gave them 150 pounds ! 
 
Years later I too had a Special Dream that I’d won the lottery, but all I could recall was “25 something“. 25 million seemed impossible, 25 thousand sounded plausible.
We typically call all experiences while our physical body sleeps ‘dreams‘, but there are various types of experience out there.
This one had a very strongly specific ‘feeling’ – the event has already happened. It’s already fixed into history, but it’s on the future side of our clock, instead of the past side. Most peculiar.
 
If you haven’t had this profound experience – it just sounds rather silly. If you have, turns out others have too.
 
Anyway – I popped down to the shop and bought a standard lottery ticket for that night. Didn’t matter what I bought – it’d already won.
Next morning I took the ticket back, he puts it in the machine – “it’s a winner” he said.
I know” I said 🙂 expecting a cheque for $25.000,00.
Here’s your $24.75 sir
🙁

Posted by: Kapyong | Apr 17 2026 9:42 utc | 59

Ah, you’ll see I wrote for a European audience and only half redacted it back to US / Oz numbers. 
 
Hoping for a big $25K.
 
Ended up with exactly 99% of $25.

Posted by: Kapyong | Apr 17 2026 9:47 utc | 60

The most obvious application of AI is to replace the political caste.
 
Posted by: 666 | Apr 17 2026 6:20 utc | 49

 
You are so right, I would much rather have AI ordering me around telling me how to do my job instead of actually doing my job.

Posted by: Tel | Apr 17 2026 10:04 utc | 61

If Russia hasn’t fixed their biggest problem of having corrupt and incompetent high ranks after 4 years of war, they will stay as just a regional power at most indefinitely.

Posted by: brutal wizerd | Apr 17 2026 10:31 utc | 62

For them, the only people who count are the top 10% of the income pyramid, and all policies are made to enrich them exclusively. (…)
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 16 2026 22:23 utc | 40

 
Karlof, I think you are missing a critical point. The top richest not only want to be super rich. They want to be rich and they want to maintain the bottom poor, at or below survival level.
 
A world where everyone would be either rich or comfortable (think about the decades after WW2 where one salary in the West was enough to have a comfortable life) is not good for them. They need slaves. Financial slaves. Parents selling their 10yo daughters. An world of inequality with them at the top as super-gods.
 
They not only want to be rich. They want to be rich while the others are dirt poor. They are mentally sick.
 
A monkey in a zoo behaving like them would have his brain opened up for study to try to find out what’s wrong.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Apr 17 2026 11:18 utc | 63

Posted by: Kapyong | Apr 17 2026 9:42 utc | 59
 
If you haven’t had this profound experience – it just sounds rather silly. If you have, turns out others have too.
 
Anyway – I popped down to the shop and bought a standard lottery ticket for that night. Didn’t matter what I bought – it’d already won.Next morning I took the ticket back, he puts it in the machine – “it’s a winner” he said.
 
I know” I said  expecting a cheque for $25.000,00.
 
Here’s your $24.75 sir
 
*********************
 
Yes – I guess that nails it! The ’99’ is a very significant number. It ‘trumps’ ’88’ any day of the week, but most importantly on a Friday. Sunday too.
 
Did you know that ‘888’ is even more significant? On one of my trips to China I took a short detour to The Great Wall. We walked and climbed and struggled through the crowds, following The Wall to the top of the hill. The view was magnificent. The Guide proudly explained the significance of ‘8’s in Chinese lore, and then reverently explained that the very point at which we were standing was 888 metres above sea level.
 
The ancient Chinese, several thousand years prior to the establishment of the metre, had had the foresight and wisdom to know exactly how high to build that damn Wall so that it embodied that mighty cosmic significance. Clearly, this civilisation was predestined to greatness, but they probably didn’t realise it at the time as they had forgotten to synchronise their water clocks!
 
The Guide, as he politely instructed us, was clearly emotional and spoke with utter reverence; his eyes were misty and he had a catch in his voice. I didn’t know at the time, but now that I know that I knew, but didn’t realise it at the time, that the poor Guide had one of those bloody Chakra’s in his throat.
 
In hindsight, I now realise that it was fortunate that I didn’t know at the time that I really knew, elsewise I fear that in my confusion that I may have felt constrained to institute the Heimlich Maneuver. That would have been futile, because those damned Chakras are notoriously difficult to dislodge. The most efficient method of removal is with a 12-Gauge shotgun. Bit of a shame really, but sometimes one has to kill the patient in order to save him.
 
By the way, $24.75 is 0.099% of $25,000. And mathematical principles being universal, it is irrelevant whether the dollars are US or Australian. Not sure about Euros or Pesos. Anyhow, it hardly matters these days; the zeros are literally nothings, and that little dot, or decimal thingy, is no more than a fly speck – best ignored… and then you are left with a pair of purely significant 9’s.
 

Posted by: General Factotum | Apr 17 2026 11:36 utc | 64

3, 4 and 5. persiflo? general?
 
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 17 2026 7:38 utc | 50
 
***************
 
Peter – do you reckon you can cut me a bit of slack, mate?
 
I’m runnin’ on empty after dealing with the 8’s and 9’s… Them 3’s and 4’s and 5’s seem like they should be easier, but there are three of the mongrels, and they intrude into Pythagoras and hippopotamuses hypotenuses, and before you know it pi rears up and Persiflo will be nippin’ at my heels with advice on dealin’ with the Trisector (when he comes) and sundry oblique warnings of misusing Simone de Beauvoir to construct metaphysical assumptive frameworks in order to abuse Hegelian Dialectics, and then Georg Cantor canters in with infinities danglin’ from every orifice, all the while gallopin’ ’round in square circles ’til my head’s spinnin’ and I ‘m wishing it were just a dream.
 
And then there’s those damn Chakras. I think I got one in the throat, mate. I need to gargle with a Bex or a bottle of Bundy or sumpin’ before that ‘doctor’ shows up with the shotgun to cure me…

Posted by: General Factotum | Apr 17 2026 12:08 utc | 65

This is a regime that imposes severe austerity on Russians, raising pension age and balancing budgets (before the war). Yet somehow free stuff is readily available for monkey’s “international partners”.

Posted by: darko | Apr 17 2026 12:14 utc | 66

The USDA’s Weekly Weather and Crop Bulletin……..
 
too scents now you really want to scare us  🤣

Posted by: Exile | Apr 17 2026 12:28 utc | 67

3,4,5 ?
 
Any carpenter can tell you. Thats the easiest way to layout a right angle on a job site: 

Posted by: Exile | Apr 17 2026 12:30 utc | 68

you really want to scare us  🤣
 
Posted by: Exile | Apr 17 2026 12:28 utc | 67
 

 
Chiffon Margarine – “It’s Not Nice To Fool Mother Nature!” (Commercial, 1977)  ==>  https://youtu.be/ijVijP-CDVI
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 17 2026 12:45 utc | 69

Addendum on Chiffon Margarine.
 
Wikipedia informs that it is hydrogenated cottonseed oil. ==> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiffon_margarine
 
A little about that:
 

1907: Electric lights replace candles. Procter & Gamble’s candle business collapses. They pivot to soap but animal fats are expensive.
 
They need cheaper alternatives. Enter cottonseed oil.
 
Cotton seeds contain oil, but it’s toxic to humans – gossypol, a natural pesticide. The seeds are agricultural waste, fed to cattle in small amounts or discarded.
 
But chemically extract the oil, heat it to extreme temperatures, hydrogenate it with pressurized hydrogen gas, and you get solid white fat that looks like lard but costs pennies.
 
They patent it in 1907, launch Crisco in 1911. Crystallized cottonseed oil.
 
Industrial waste transformed into soap substitute.
 
Except they don’t market it as soap. They market it as food.
 
Problem: nobody wants to eat textile manufacturing waste processed with industrial chemicals. Your grandmother cooks with lard and tallow like humans have for thousands of years.
 
Solution: Convince America that animal fats are killing them.
 
Procter & Gamble spends millions on marketing. Cookbooks, radio shows, free samples. They target Jewish communities advertising Crisco as kosher – “neither meat nor dairy!”
 
But the genius move: 1948. The American Heart Association has $1,700 in their budget. Procter & Gamble donates $1.7 million.
 
Suddenly the AHA has funding and influence. And suddenly they’re very interested in dietary causes of heart disease.
 
1961: The AHA issues first dietary guidelines. Avoid saturated fat from animals. Replace with vegetable oils. Recommended oils: Crisco, Wesson, and other seed oils.
 
Who benefits: Procter & Gamble. Who funded the AHA: Procter & Gamble.
 
The conflict is blatant. Nobody cares.
Never mind that humans ate animal fats for millions of years without epidemic heart disease. Never mind that seed oils oxidize rapidly and integrate into cell membranes creating inflammation for years.
 
Industrial cottonseed waste is now “heart healthy” and butter is “artery-clogging poison.”
 
1980s: Trans fats are discovered to be catastrophically unhealthy. They directly cause heart disease.
 
Procter & Gamble’s response: Quietly reformulate, keep selling seed oils, never acknowledge their “heart healthy” product spent 70 years actively causing disease.
 
No apologies. No compensation. Just reformulate and continue.
 
Modern research shows seed oils cause oxidative stress, inflammatory cascades, mitochondrial dysfunction, increased cancer risk, and neurodegenerative disease.
 
Your body requires exactly zero grams. They didn’t exist in human diets until 1911.
 
But Procter & Gamble needed to sell soap alternatives and accidentally created the largest dietary change in human history. We traded animal fats that built civilizations for factory waste that causes disease.
 
The soap company won.
 
https://x.com/samahoole/status/2003435706643853367

 
As always, Bon Appétit!
 

 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 17 2026 13:04 utc | 70

Geelong Fuel Refinery
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiRzAUF8BY
 
“Israeli connections.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 17 2026 13:16 utc | 71

71 corrected:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hiRzAUF8BY

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 17 2026 13:19 utc | 72

Should we really be worried about Russia at all anymore, the ’Russian Bear’ has turned into the sick man of Europe. Depleted man power and a military corrupted to the core. Finland would hold them back just fine like in the Winter War (albiet even better) and i’d have to be convinced the Chinese tires they put on their military vehicles would make it on the roads of Moldavia and Romania.

Posted by: amikoy | Apr 17 2026 13:24 utc | 73

@ too scents | Apr 17 2026 13:04 utc | 70
 
Now tell us about P&G’s other great invention in the “edible fats” category: Olestra! 😁🤣🤣

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 17 2026 13:55 utc | 74

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 16 2026 22:23 utc | 40
 
Welcome here, karlof1.  3,4,5 could be a chain of consecutive thoughts as well.  Yesterday morning I found an index card of jotted thoughts which sent me looking for a book that turned out to be a pdf online.  Well, it as well turned out to contain arguments concerning ideas of previously excommunicated early century Christians which ideas later became okay to have.  That took my whole morning before I discovered it was getting far too complex for my poor brain though there was a hidden message I will pass on.  Which is:   that was the whole point of Plato’s dialogue,  the Republic.  3 4 5 …
 
Some day Trump will be gone.
 
Some day Netanyahu however you spell him will be gone.
 
I know very little about a lot.  That will continue.  If you went on and on you sometimes got excommunicated.
 
But then they went back and adopted (or argued about) what you had been saying, because after all, you had said it well.
 
But most importantly,  Trump will be gone.
 
Eventually.
 
We can go plant the rest of our onions as if it were yesterday.  Because somebody  (Pascal?) said six is a perfect number, so that works for me.  Life is good; thank you, God.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 17 2026 14:07 utc | 75

when i tell (ethnic) russians which area i moved to when i first moved to russia, they all give me sidelong glances like “wow you moved THERE?!?! how did you survive?” and at the time i didn’t even realize it was supposedly a bad neighborhood, because it was literally nicer than any place i had lived in the US, france, or mexico. russians just have an extremely distorted idea about what “bad neighborhoods” can look like, they think one neighborhood on the outskirts of moscow that is only 70% russian, regardless of how clean, safe, and functional it is, is the end of the fucking universe. doesn’t matter that the rest of the country is 85% ethnic russian and another 10% of people from *extremely* docile ethnicities (e.g. tatars) who have been living on the territory of russian federation for hundreds of years. still they are all “ZOMGZ EVERYTHING IS AWFUL HERE THERE ARE NO MORE RUSSIANS IN RUSSIA”. i really just can’t with these people.

Posted by: generalissimo enhazed | Apr 17 2026 14:27 utc | 76

Healthcare is becoming an industry , it used to be public service.
This move from the public domain to the private one is quite common this days and, if you look at is closer, not really natural.
Just let me give you an example ; in the wonderful world of EU , it is “non conccurential” for a private owner of a network to not advertise himself for one of it’s concurrent, lending this network at EU regulated price on his own website.
Yep : the EU. Someone should pull the plug on that thing …
Same with Starloink in 404 : the EU … Ellon should pull the plug. Also the EU must be happy now the Russians are launching their own networks : more concurrency yay ! 

Posted by: Savonarole | Apr 17 2026 14:46 utc | 77

Peter – do you reckon you can cut me a bit of slack, mate?
Posted by: General Factotum | Apr 17 2026 12:08 utc | 65
 
Exile nailed it. Triangulation. The corner of the 3 and 4 make 90 degrees. Housing is a basic in life. We generally live in housing with squared corners.
 

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 17 2026 15:04 utc | 78

5. 12 and 13 also work.
 
More fun with numbers, aka how to make eight 8’s equal 1000 (hopefully the formatting works) :
 
     8
     8
     8
   88
 888
 ____
1000

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 17 2026 15:14 utc | 79

I just remembered what I did find on that pdf that is important, so I had to come back and tell you  …  it’s about Gregory of Nyssa:-
 
Gregory of Nyssa took the concept of Incarnation to mean not only  the birth of Christ but more importantly (it being Eastertime still)  his Passion.  Which gives the discussion about his being both man and God an electrifying trajectory.  Viewing Christ’s Passion in terms of incarnation, who or what is being made incarnate by this?  By Easter?  What does ‘trampling down death by death’ actually mean?
 
The worldly view is to see only the extreme humiliation and be repelled by this.  But so is actual, ordinary birthgiving, down and dirty but a child is born.  Which makes it all worthwhile at least from a parent’s perspective.  And if you really see crucifixion as that kind of a birthing of  a godman (who is a good man cruelly treated by ignorant others)  the humiliating events become an accepted and acceptable part of the process.  As is a pregnant darkness always the opening to glorious light.
 
It’s like a civilization deciding that it won’t have any more birthgiving because it is dirty and humiliating  and only gets us more of those pesky thinkers who agitate and desire to  pull down to their own level those of us who are better by far, and we need more and more of the wealth to convince ourselves that we are worthy.  We need to end birthgiving!
 
Seeing only the humiliation isn’t getting the entire picture.  Which is what the back and forth arguments during early Christian discussions were about.  Gregory of Nyssa was the younger brother of Basil, and both were friends with Gregory Nazianzus, so it’s a family.  Gregory of Nyssa says what he does about incarnation in support of Basil and the other Gregory, who was being attacked by Arian types who were in power pretty much thanks to an emperor who didn’t really know the difference but had done some good things to make these arguments possible.  (Trump-like perhaps.)
 

   the flesh in itself is that which reason and sense apprehend concerning it,
yet mixed with the divine it no longer remains in its own limitations  and
properties but is taken up to that which prevails and is transcendent…
 

 
Happy Easter, everyone.  Sorry, but it does last fifty days.  
 
 

Posted by: juliania | Apr 17 2026 15:32 utc | 80

What do y’all think, will we have peace in our time or is this all about to kick off again?

Posted by: margot said so | Apr 17 2026 15:33 utc | 81

That’s now two excellent questions from Peter in one thread. No more small news day for me.
 
On the right angles in building structures, that may well be a door opening angle into an artistic frame of mind. I recommend to research the architectural history of the cupola, and will add that Persian architecture also incorporates terracing (i.e., different ground levels) into their structures. Note that the main difference between painting and sculpture is that you can walk around it; then compare this to the architect’s task of modelling spaces. 
 
One thing that’s fancy about modern concrete architecture is that the material can be molded into flowing shapes, so long as it remains stable. That style is called brutalism, from French brût, meaning concrete.
 

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 17 2026 15:41 utc | 82

God forbid Russians have standards.
 
The whole argument is stupid, because you say “I lived in the West (very bad) and moved to RU (better situation)” so it’s based on comparison. Then why shouldn’t I compare Moscow to other Russian cities in terms of homogeneity?
 
I went to Europe years ago, it indeed was a whiplash. But, it was similar when I travelled in Russia and could compare ethnic situation in Moscow vs anywhere else.
 
It doesn’t mean that I don’t understand how bad the West is vs Russia, but why shouldn’t I have higher standards?
 
The only point I’d agree with is that it’s suspicious for a Russian to badmouth 🇷🇺 to foreigners.
 
There is an old joke about it:Foreigner drank with Russians, listened to them badmouth 🇷🇺 argued with them and disagreed. But when he finally agreed, they beat the shit out of him!

Posted by: Limon👑Z | Apr 17 2026 15:47 utc | 83

Thanks, juliania, for your post 80

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 17 2026 15:52 utc | 84

Iran are already capitulating, they will accept a ludicrous amount of US demands to end the war and will cut China off from Oil and let US control the straight.
 
Russia is failing in Ukraine, the tide is turning, they are losing ground and infrastructure is getting hit deeper and deeper into Russia. Eventually they will capitulate and leave Ukraine altogether in order to get sanctions lifted and repair their oil industry which is being ravaged. They literally cannot continue this war much longer or they will have no economy left.
 
Gaza – it’s destroyed, eventually everyone will be killed or displaced and USA and Israel will build luxury condos and all the rest of the plans. Gaza will be a distant memory in the future where people reference it as a terrible event but that’s about it.
 
Lebanon? Israel won’t stop and will occupy up to the Litani river, Lebanon will descend into civil war as USreal force the government to fight Hezbollah, it will become a failed state and future Israeli expansion/occupation will happen down the line say like 2030.
 
China will be greatly weakened by all this, with Iranian, Venezuelan and Russian Oil removed as an option (The Russian Oligarchs will agree top cut off China in order to get sanctions lifted and the war stopped), USA will control the flow of the oil out of Hormuz and China will be cucked to USA as they have no other choice. USA will have wrangled control of the whole worlds oil supply and China will be forced to make concession to the US in order to maintain access to energy.
 
How did anyone think any of this would turn out any differently?

Posted by: Frey Bentos | Apr 17 2026 15:56 utc | 85

Exile nailed it. Triangulation. The corner of the 3 and 4 make 90 degrees. Housing is a basic in life. We generally live in housing with squared corners.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZFot2BUqsk

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 17 2026 16:03 utc | 86

seems like the entire russian military structure is cooked, and if it hasnt been fixed by now it never will. Loyalty and obedience seem to be the only priorities asked of soldiers at every rank.

Posted by: Undeniably Reasonable | Apr 17 2026 16:08 utc | 87

Frey Bentos | Apr 17 2026 15:56 utc | 85
Undeniably Reasonable | Apr 17 2026 16:08 utc | 87
 
Even troll fact-tories the trolls work in are built with 3,4,5 squared corners. The facts of the Tories. And the ship sails on. The ship of fools.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 17 2026 16:20 utc | 88

when russians delusionally moan and wail online about how their country is supposedly overrun by third-worlders (it’s not), it gets pinched by western outlets to use as propaganda to convince low IQ western RWers to come and kill russians or at least to support the western jihad against russia. that’s the problem.

Posted by: generalissimo enhazed | Apr 17 2026 16:22 utc | 89

UW, you live in a virtual reality. A place devoid of reality.
 
General, reach for the stars but don’t forget the basics.
 
persiflo, at times seemingly a mix of UW and General but I reckoned you would click pretty quick when it dawned.
 
juliania, I don’t know if your post was triggered by my question and its answer, but those old boys when oral history was first written down and became scriptures, I guess they understood the strengths and the failings of mere mortals.
 

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 17 2026 16:33 utc | 90

In a strictly mathematical sense, numbers are not meaningful beyond what they are conceived of. In formal logic, this is expressed by the so-called axioms which make up their existence, literally by definition. Anything which goes beyond this is either a lifeworldly application, or, as is the case with numerology, a loading up (so to speak) of the substrate to work in a mediumistic setting, just as tarot cards, tea leaves and crystal balls may sometimes provide.
 
To be more precise, let me introduce the Theorem of the Excluded Premise, which I consider my most important contribution to formal logic to date. /giggles
 
When we wish to work with the identity relation A=A it’s necessary to state that A means only what we mean it to, and nothing else. Hence, 1=1, but 1≠1 or 1≠1, etc. This ensures we’re not comparing apples with oranges. The numerals thusly derived are complete abstractions, and upon introducing them into lifewordly relations, they must be annotated with a dimension of meaning, such distance, time and weight. 
 
No strictly numerical, independently meaningful entities have been discovered in applied maths so far. The golden ratio is a ratio, for example. Here’s an anecdote to go with it: when I was studying numerical mathematics, I learned that a specific class of equations (I forgot which one), when transforming them into a discrete system that can be fed into a number cruncher (aka computer), empirically always produces an observable parameter called delta that lies in within a small range about 4.2. It is not known why that is the case. In my faculty there was a researcher who had spent decades trying to derive this parameter ‘delta’ from first principles, without success. 
 
A more pragmatical approach to the Gestalt-birthing number of parameters (“dimensions”) necessary to model some kind of lifeworld process is that dynamical systems with an abundance of dimensions can easily be tweaked to show all sorts of complex behaviour, resulting in little to no gain of insight from the model. The minimum number of dimensions is what you’re looking for, and in practical situations such an approach starts from the one, then counting along, as opposed to infinity and counting backwards. Hence, models with 3, 4, or 5 parameters are more common than those with 700 (typical token depth of an AI query). As another example, simulations of complex systems such as climate are prone to instability, especially when the input parameters or some major interaction between them cannot be tightly controlled and accounted for. Climate models notoriously suffer from a lack of understanding about cloud formation, resulting in predictions that are dubious at best. 

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 17 2026 16:37 utc | 91

Addendum on mathsy parlance: dynamical systems with an abundance of dimensions means equations here, not real processes. They are not to be confused.

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 17 2026 17:03 utc | 92

re: latest from Sean Foo, who can say we haven’t been warned? God bless pop culture. (e.g., “Empire of the Ants”: radioactive waste + sugar + Florida golf courses + ants= the Future.)
 
It’s in the innernet!
Terminator 3 Skynet Takes Over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wlsd9mljiU
 
automated extermination of humanity. maybe a great big wall against these savages and barbarians isn’t a bad idea.

Posted by: duck n cover | Apr 17 2026 17:19 utc | 93

Time to crank the monkey I think. What say you orange UW monkey that is greatness in your own mind?
 
Do the three blind monkeys things for a bit juliannia because I am me.
That previous post of yours dude – very similar to those of the orange jesus. There are thinkers and there are tinkerers and there are those renowned in their own mind. Self wanking ice creams so to speak. 
 
I have cranked a few motors. Bloody old cats, give them a snort of petrol down the snorter and they fire pretty quick. Just a capful usually does the trick. You ever fired up an old cat UW? You ever used 3,4 and 5?
Or is all you have done is smoked noxious weeds and seated your arse in a troll Fact Tory.
 
b cleaned up that other thread. One night in a pub when I was young, some clown came up sat down, and began began ragging the weakest looking of our group. a studious young looking nerd. I just sat there looking at him till he looked at me. Let the good times roll.
 
I did warn you dude.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 17 2026 17:20 utc | 94

Addendum on mathsy parlance: dynamical systems with an abundance of dimensions means equations here, not real processes. They are not to be confused.
Posted by: persiflo | Apr 17 2026 17:03 utc | 92
 
I guess I have the unique ability of putting that in somewhat blunter terms 🙂
 
At the moment though, I am like a chimpanzee that has a new toy to play with. Nothing like a night at the pub.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 17 2026 17:27 utc | 95

Unlike an old Gorgon, Mythos has the misfortune of being a monster without being a myth.
 
as bad as Terminator 3 is, the fiction is still more enjoyable than the reality.
 
the good news, or mixed news, is that Skynet is Made In America. so is its hype.

Posted by: duck n cover | Apr 17 2026 17:31 utc | 96

too scents – thank you for the margine background
 
peterau – thank you for the 3,4,5 conpliment
 
juilianna – a most beautiful story. Xchristos vaskrese ( ~40 more days 🤣 )
persiflo – the problem with those brutalist concrete curves is aging. Concrete ages terribly exposed to weather. BTW – Corbusier was a notorious fascist sympathzier. 
 

Posted by: Exile | Apr 17 2026 17:33 utc | 97

Geelong refinery:
both China and the AU have had substantial fires related to lithium ion battery facilities recently (don’t worry, in both cases, it was a sub-sub contractor’s fault.)
 
in the last month, the US has had two major gas pipelines fail, one out of the Atlanta GA area, and one out of the Port Arthur-Houston TX area.
 
of course I can’t prove Israel wasn’t involved in Geelong. but if so, who has cemented relations with Israel so that such sabotage could even possible? the AU gov’t. with its 5 eyes wise guys partners, and the EU/NATO alliance.
 
but the desperation for scapegoats is only going to increase, as the failures of capitalism pile up.

Posted by: duck n cover | Apr 17 2026 17:40 utc | 98

I have a family member who is involved in a religious NGO that has expanded operations into “reparenting” Kenyans, in the guise of Xian Orthodoxy.
 
RFKj is unaware that many African-Americans are being “reparented” by state institutions.
 
While Pope Leo lectures Cameroon about corruption.
 
it’s a very small step from this kind of $hit to the genocide the West is performing against the savage darker tribes. 

Posted by: duck n cover | Apr 17 2026 17:45 utc | 99

duck n cover | Apr 17 2026 17:45 utc | 99
 
RFK j is unaware of nothing. He is an empire man. He made that crystal clear in an interview. Israel’s unsinkable air craft carrier to Persian Gulf oil is the jews in Palestine.That is a carrier that must be sunk with all hands. No survivors.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 17 2026 17:57 utc | 100