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April 5, 2026
Iran Open Thread 2026-070

News & views related to the war in Iran …

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@Don Firineach | Apr 5 2026 19:01 utc | 182
Interesting, thanks
I also know  Scottish Francis Edward Keith was leading Russian troops against Sweden in the 1740s and then shortly after that  he led Russian Troops defending Sweden against a perceived fear that the Danes would attack. I think 12ooo Russian troops were stationed in Sweden. In view of the current insane Russophobia these circumstances are probably mostly unknown.
 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 5 2026 19:34 utc | 201

He’s not right.
 
Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 5 2026 19:32 utc | 200
 

 
Trump’s just throwing a fit because the Iranians have broken all his toys.
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2026 19:35 utc | 202

Update: It seems the British ship sank, waiting for confirmation, pay attention to any news from the Brits.
 

Hezbollah sank a British military vessel off the coast of Israel with an anti-ship missile, according to Channel 14 reporter Halel Biton

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 19:36 utc | 203

I object to this.If all of the USA (I think that is what you mean) is insane, then so is the UK, Germany, the Ukraine, Australia—for starters.
Posted by: Jane | Apr 5 2026 15:09 utc | 55

I live in Germany and we are just as insane as the USA or any other part of the Western world. Emmanuel Todd has written about our malaise: “The Defeat of the West”. It’s not only the USA. 
I personally am an admirer of the psychiatrist Carl Jung and prefer looking at world events through the lens of his theories. He always feared that the Western world would loose it completely and destroy itself. Shortly before his death in 1961 he estimated that the West had about 50 years left. That’s awfully close to the current troubles.
In 1937 he wrote an essay called “Wotan” in which he theorised that the Germans were possessed by an psychological archetype, which was personified as Wotan by the ancient Germanic peoples.
Today such a thing might have happened again. There’s a good chance that the Western world has been possessed by the negative aspect of the ‘Great Mother’ archetype. That’s the same psychological mechanism which brought Sigmund Freud to assume a ‘death drive ‘. 
See also this article here: 
https://academyofideas.com/2025/10/modern-man-possessed-terrible-mother-archetype/
 
So yes, I think a good percentage of us is insane.

Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | Apr 5 2026 19:37 utc | 204

re:Hezbollah fired a missile at a British destroyer, confusing the vessel with an Israeli one.
 
According to the Israeli Channel 14, the militants launched a coast-to-sea missile at the British ship, which was not expecting an attack, when the ship was 100 km off the coast of Lebanon.
 
At the same time, the British Ministry of Defense, in a commentary for The Telegraph, refutes information about the Hezbollah strike and states that their destroyers were not damaged.

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 19:39 utc | 205

For the love of money is the root of all evil…
They Built the Escape Route Before the Crime

 
On February 28, 2026, the United States and Israel launched strikes on Iran.
CNN found that a single trader had made nearly $1 million since 2024 from dozens of well-timed Polymarket bets correctly predicting US and Israeli military actions against Iran—winning 93% of five-figure wagers on what were supposed to be unannounced military operations. Let that sink in. 93% accuracy on classified decisions. That’s not luck, that’s a feed.

 

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 5 2026 19:39 utc | 206

It seems the British ship sank, waiting for confirmation
 
Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 19:36 utc | 203
 

 
Other sources and Hezbollah themselves claim that the Israelis are falsifying the identity of their ship.
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2026 19:42 utc | 207

Dropping an NIH link to sound authoritative and expecting me not to follow up on it is the height of folly. I happen to have some free time and this will be your undoing.

You might also wish to educate yourself on the spikes in cancer rates in Japan post 2021.
Posted by: Allen | Apr 5 2026 17:22 utc | 126

 
The first thing that greets me upon clicking the link is: “This article has been retracted.”
 
The reason for the retraction?

The Editors-in-Chief have retracted this article. Upon post-publication review, it has been determined that the correlation between mortality rates and vaccination status cannot be proven with the data presented in this article. As this invalidates the conclusions of the article, the decision has been made to retract.

 
Americans work hard to earn that well-deserved reputation of being shameless liars. Bravo!
 
Your shamelessness doesn’t end there.

The US has been experiencing declines in life expectancy for a variety of reasons and BOTH countries have had declines in HEALTHY” life averages for a number of years. That these declines ticked up at the same time as lock downs and experimental mass vaccination campaigns might pique your curiosity if you’re thinking critically.
Posted by: Allen | Apr 5 2026 17:22 utc | 126

 
Your claim that life expectancy in America has been declining is disproven by the chart that I linked to in my reply that you quoted. American life expectancy was unambiguously on an upward trend, with the only sharp observable spike found in the 2020s.
 
There is even clearer proof that vaccinations were not responsible for the spike in deaths. In the first six months of 2020, life expectancy in the United States dropped by a full year, according to new federal data. This other chart shows increasing life expectancy in America from 2000 to 2019. The first six months was before America rolled out any mass vaccination campaign, so you can’t blame vaccines for the deaths.
 
There’s also an un-retracted article published in PNAS from January 2021 that not only argues that life expectancy in America dropped, but also that the drop disproportionately affected socio-economically marginalized groups like Black and Latino populations.
 
And now you will blame “hospital protocols” and masks instead.

HOWEVER, the main reason that US-Italy experienced what they did during the Covid operation was that MASSIVE numbers of the elderly were wiped out due to HOSPITAL PROTOCOLS. and mass negligence in nursing homes This is well documented- please educate yourself on the matter.
BTW putting a mask over your breathing apparatus is exceptionally dangerous and unhealthy except when working in areas where toxic debris (e.g. asbestos) is in the air.
Posted by: Allen | Apr 5 2026 17:22 utc | 126

 
Apparently, the Japanese and the Chinese who:

  • mask regularly
  • vaccinated because it was in the interest of public health
  • have large populations of elderly people

aren’t subjected to the same vulnerabilities as the Americans, as they did not see a similar drop in life expectancy as the Americans did.
 
There’s also plenty of evidence that suggests COVID-19 itself has carcinogenic/oncogenic properties:

 
Cancer isn’t the only thing COVID-19 can bring. There’s also an increased risk of heart attack and stroke. But Americans are unfazed by the destruction that viruses can wreak upon human bodies because Americans are death cultists. Americans are fundamentally anti-life and anti-humanity.

AUH asserts that USA-ians who refused jabs were just being nonconformists as a pose, not on the basis of sound judgment regarding their health and the dubiousness of the jabs.I would love to see some evidence for this assertion.I think it is nonsense. It is just another way for AUH to dump on USA-ians. Even when they are being sensible and refusing to go along to get along, AUH interprets this as just more herd behavior. LOL.
Posted by: Jane | Apr 5 2026 17:51 utc | 145
 

Allen@1722: Thanks for sharing the FACTS about those genocidal jabs. They are “gifts” which continue taking and taking numerous lives of “useless eaters”…according to the diktats of the financier elite.
Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 5 2026 17:43 utc | 143

 
For all the Americans clamoring for evidence, I’ve provided plenty. But I know Americans will never be convinced by evidence. Americans are powered by the unwavering conviction that they are always right. This conviction coupled with the fact that Americans are death cultists means that whatever path that maximizes death and suffering will be the path that Americans defend most vigorously.
 
Like in Iran for example.
 
Americans have chosen the path of maximum death and suffering when engaging with Iranians. Bombs and missiles are the language of American diplomacy.
 
Americans are a disease. Therefore, Americans celebrate disease. Americans fight attempts to halt the spread of disease because it is equivalent to halting the spread of America.
 
Death to America
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
 
AUH note: Links removed to comply with b’s 5-link limit. The full set of links to peer-reviewed and un-retracted articles can be found at my Substack.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 5 2026 19:45 utc | 208

– ‘Mission failed’: Iran destroys several US aircraft in botched ‘rescue’ bid in Isfahan – PressTV
The picture referenced in this article, cf. Week in Review, could use some decomposition. The caption mentions a single airplane. By my reckoning I count two small airframes, one with its main rotor nearby and the larger airframe showing just one large turbo prop nacelle with a damaged propeller, blades bent inward.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Apr 5 2026 19:45 utc | 209

Israel media channel 14 claims Hezbollah struck a British warship off the coast. 
 
It could also be them covering up or reflecting an Israeli warship being struck. Either way they most likely hit something.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 5 2026 19:47 utc | 210

Haven’t read all posts yet, maybe someone else has noticed. Trump does not issue tweets that short. The vulgarity is notable even for him. He’s not right.
Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 5 2026 19:32 utc | 200

I don’t think Trump writes any of the tweets, he just OKs them after a quick glance.
They are written by partially literate interns attempting to translate Trumpian rantings into something resembling communications.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 5 2026 19:48 utc | 211

In 2006 (I recall) the Lebanese hit an IDF warship with an anti-ship missile causing serious damage. 

Posted by: Exile | Apr 5 2026 19:49 utc | 212

AUH note: Links removed to comply with b’s 5-link limit. The full set of links to peer-reviewed and un-retracted articles can be found at my Substack.
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 5 2026 19:45 utc | 208
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The relevance of your entire posting to the thread is not clear to me. My ego is too small to elaborate.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Apr 5 2026 19:49 utc | 213

  Jo that all sounds made up. From the start. Injured and separated? Probably both dead or captured. Guy transmitting a signal in a remote area anyone with a $20 usb SDR dongle from amazon could have located? Multiple c130s to rescue a pilot? Did they need to bring in a dozen ambulances and half a hospital for him? This is laughably farcical. Guessing 200 foot soldiers of satan could squeeze in there, how many were able to leave? Or were they packed with abrams and bulldozers? Sounds like from msm agitprop that its now back to standoff weaponry against civilian infrastructure.. Now that they’re low on such weapons. 

Posted by: NJH | Apr 5 2026 19:49 utc | 214

the Lebanese hit 
 
Posted by: Exile | Apr 5 2026 19:49 utc | 212
 

 
It is strange to conflate the Lebanese with Hezbollah.
 

Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2026 19:52 utc | 215

@ Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 5 2026 19:20 utc | 194
If it were special ops, they would not be tere to establish a bridge-head.

Posted by: jared | Apr 5 2026 19:53 utc | 216

“Anyone care to speculate about the possible reasons Iranian air defenses suddenly improved?”
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@Delhiliterally | Apr 5 2026 19:05 utc |184
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Something marginally related is, if it was true, that China fired two high military officials for corruption. Perhaps related to failing supersonic anti-carrier missiles.
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Such an embarassment as the one described below may have motivated China to improve its reputation by offering something reliable for air defenses.
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“According to reports from March 2026 (including those from Global Defense Corp), the CM-302 proved to have serious shortcomings when put to the test:• Guidance failures: In an incident where Iranian forces (who had recently purchased the system) fired CM-302s at a US battle group led by the USS Abraham Lincoln, the missiles reportedly failed mid-flight.• Terminal phase: The missiles failed to accelerate to their promised speed (Mach 3) in the final phase, making them easy for the US Aegis system to shoot down.• Target tracking: The system lost lock-on to the targets, suggesting that the electronics or software did not meet the standards advertised”
 
 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 5 2026 19:55 utc | 217

According to the Telegraph, Trump sent guns to Iranian protesters through Kurdish militias. 
 

Posted by: Peter Schmidt | Apr 5 2026 19:57 utc | 218

This should make headline NEWS on CNN, FOX, watch how quickly the zionist child killers quit.

“After Iran’s fighters completed the encirclement — the contemptible enemy, in order to prevent the disgrace of Trump and preserve the hollow prestige of their army, was forced to heavily bomb their own downed aircraft, equipment, commanders, and soldiers.”

Iran is now explicitly stating the US bombed its own trapped personnel to prevent capture.

“The disgrace of the trapped president and the defeated American army cannot be repaired by rhetoric, media warfare, or psychological operations.”

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 19:58 utc | 219

🇮🇷 BREAKING:IRGC issues statement on the failed US rescue operation:
 
“Following the desperate attempts of the American terrorist army to rescue the pilot of their downed fighter jet, a number of enemy aircraft entered Iran in the early hours of April 5th.”
 
Confirmed struck and forced into emergency landings south of Isfahan:🔸 2 C-130 military transport planes🔸 2 Black Hawk helicopters
 
“After Iran’s fighters completed the encirclement — the contemptible enemy, in order to prevent the disgrace of Trump and preserve the hollow prestige of their army, was forced to heavily bomb their own downed aircraft, equipment, commanders, and soldiers.”
 
Iran is now explicitly stating the US bombed its own trapped personnel to prevent capture.
 
“The disgrace of the trapped president and the defeated American army cannot be repaired by rhetoric, media warfare, or psychological operations.”

 
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/180846
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 5 2026 20:01 utc | 220

Very unusual NOTE:  We still don’t have any pictures of the rescued Pilot!  all the drama, com’on Centcom media!  get on with it.

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 20:02 utc | 221

“Guy transmitting a signal in a remote area”
@NJH | Apr 5 2026 19:49 utc | 214
They surely have better equipment e g satphones or other spread spectrum signals that are difficult  to notice. A pilote who had to bail out in foreign is an application that those related to  militar  R&D would give priority.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 5 2026 20:04 utc | 222

too scents @ 202
 
I’m thinking more like diminished capacity.
Obviously he is being childish and having a hissy fit. While in a diminished capacity or even in diminished ability to get staff to concoct his spew.

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 5 2026 20:05 utc | 223

Perhaps it is time to remember titmouse’s advice and allow 24 hours for the news to settle.
At the moment there is much rumour, counter rumour, paid military influencers trying to distract, dissemble and generally flood the zone with shit.
The truth will out eventually.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 5 2026 20:05 utc | 224

 
Haven’t read all posts yet, maybe someone else has noticed. Trump does not issue tweets that short. The vulgarity is notable even for him. He’s not right.
Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 5 2026 19:32 utc | 200
 
Agree.

Posted by: osi not ossi | Apr 5 2026 20:06 utc | 225

An Easter message from Marjorie Taylor Greene in response to Trump’s deranged, Satanic Easter Tweet: 

 
“On Easter morning, this is what President Trump posted. Everyone in his administration that claims to be a Christian needs to fall on their knees and beg forgiveness from God and stop worshiping the President and intervene in Trump’s madness.
 
“I know all of you and him and he has gone insane, and all of you are complicit. I’m not defending Iran but let’s be honest about all of this.
 
“The Strait is closed because the US and Israel started the unprovoked war against Iran based on the same nuclear lies they’ve been telling for decades, that any moment Iran would develop a nuclear weapon.
 
“You know who has nuclear weapons? Israel. They are more than capable of defending themselves without the US having to fight their wars, kill innocent people and children, and pay for it. 
 
“Trump threatening to bomb power plants and bridges hurts the Iranian people, the very people Trump claimed he was freeing. On Easter, of all days, we as Christians should be reminded that the son of God died and rose from the grave so that we can be forgiven once and for all of our sins.
 
“Jesus commanded us to love one another and forgive one another. Even our enemies. Our President is not a Christian and his words and actions should not be supported by Christians.
 
“Christians in the administration should be pursuing peace. Urging the President to make peace. Not escalating war that is hurting people.
 
“This NOT what we promised the American people when they overwhelmingly voted in 2024, I know, I was there more than most. This is not making America great again, this is evil.”
 
– Former Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, today on X.

 
Note the replies from Randy Fine and other Zionists & Trump Cultists.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 5 2026 20:07 utc | 226

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 5 2026 20:01 utc | 220
Wow, if true, that gives them a shorter lifespan than Seal Team 6.
Special ops is a career for life – a short one.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 5 2026 20:07 utc | 227

US narrative that 2 C-130s were “destroyed after becoming inoperable” on the ground during the F-15 airman rescue in Iran doesn’t hold up.
As an aviation reporter in past I covered multiple air crashes. The propeller blades in attached pic are bent backward exactly in a way they do when spinning at high RPM during a crash impact. That’s textbook dynamic. It is downing damage not blowing up of static aircraft.
• Baqir Sajjad

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/160832

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 5 2026 20:09 utc | 228

Re: US Bombing their OWN soldiers, seems unconsciousable.
We may have entered a shift in military doctrine, a new paradigm!  The forbidden rule or hidden from everyone.  For sure the media will go on overdrive to say its Iranian ‘fake’ news to convince you to go fight for freedom and good.
 
or Practice run for bombing autonomous machines in battle. 
 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 20:10 utc | 229

RE: the photo with the skull:
 

🇮🇷💥🇺🇸 Some channels are circulating this image as though it were that of an American crew member involved in yesterday’s rescue operation.
This is highly unlikely. The skull appears to be in a burnt out civilian car, unknown why it was at that site but hopefully not a random innocent.
Furthermore, Americans are extremely unlikely to leave behind the deceased so carelessly. Credit where it’s due, American PJs and CRO’s are top-tier professionals of their field, their standards are thorough.
While the American version of yesterday’s ordeal clearly hides a few things, given the Little Birds bent rotors and bullet punctures, optimistic fantasy can never substitute reality.

 
Elsewhere regarding the skull photo:
 

I’ve deleted the image containing the alleged skull of an American C-130 crewmember.
The remains resemble the car frame of a Peugeot Pars (Iranian car).
In order to stay truthful, I’ve deleted the post.
This is solely regarding the picture.

 
https://t.me/FotrosResistancee/20920

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 5 2026 20:11 utc | 230

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 20:10 utc | 229
The US has adopted the Hannibal Doctrine (or maybe the Izzies did the deed for them).

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 5 2026 20:12 utc | 231

Another possible confusion is that if the helicopters were in a mountain airstrip, why would there be lots of sand.   Sand is in the desert plains, rocks in mountains.
 
FWIW it seems clear that US did sen in lots of planes. At the time (mostly by chance) I happened to be looking at flight radar (displacement activity putting off tasks I was too tired to do) any I noted at least 5 refuellers in the air around Jordan.  Not sure how many planes one refueller services, but I assume two at least. So at least 10 planes in the air.

Posted by: watcher | Apr 5 2026 20:15 utc | 232

Something doesn’t really add up. A lot of assets used for getting a pilot back. I get that pilots are important but sacrificing quite a lot of planes to do it. Very strange. Also, why send C-130 to extract a single pilot? Maybe there is indeed something more to the story. Considering that the drop zone was supposed to be closed to Isfahan, then indeed .. maybe they tried that nuclear part as stupid as it was.

Posted by: JamesBond | Apr 5 2026 20:18 utc | 233

US likely bombed disabled equipment so that it couldn’t be fetched by the Iranians. Humans wouldn’t have been in them at the time (no Hannibal directive, not in Israeli fashion).

Posted by: Seer | Apr 5 2026 20:21 utc | 234

Excuse me for asking some dumb questions.  We’re being told the US bombed its equipment and troops on the ground.  I’ve read what the equipment was.  What about the soldiers?  How many were there?  Are they now captured or dead?  If neither, then what happened to them?  Did the Americans rescue them after they failed to kill them?

Posted by: EoinW | Apr 5 2026 20:21 utc | 235

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 5 2026 19:45 utc | 208
 
Some have said America is The Borg.
 
Recent opinion pieces have explicitly likened the bankster-controlled corporate-owned US government to the “Borg,” describing it as an autonomous entity that perpetuates itself without constraint, prioritizing its own existence (and the spread of usury-based capitalism) over the freedom of its citizens (and those of every other country).
 
I think America(ns) is(are) more like the Ferengi. Obnoxious mercantilist crony capitalists who view others to be exploited for profit. 
 
Indi.ca has compared America (meaning the USA, since there are other countries in the Americas, and it is unfair to include them – or most of their people, anyway – in the metaphor) to a corporate “AI” platform. 
 
But I am also fine with the virus metaphor. Once the usury-based system knocks down enough obstacles (the immune system), it injects its own sequence into the body politic and body economic to replicate debt and extraction of useful resources. The bodies are reprogrammed at a sub-cellular level to self-perpetuate thus sickening and forever altering cultures, traditions, empathy and productive growth for the people. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 5 2026 20:23 utc | 236

Video

🇺🇸🇮🇷The modernized C-295W of the US Air Force was spotted at an extremely low altitude in the sky over Iran.
 
The aircraft is in service with the specialized secret 427th Special Operations Squadron (427th SOS), which is part of the US Air Force Special Operations Command (AFSOC).
 
The squadron does not appear on public lists of US Air Force units and specializes in covert infiltration into enemy territory and evacuation from there.
 
Everyone was mobilized to rescue the pilots.

https://t.me/intelslava/85935

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 5 2026 20:25 utc | 237

Posted by: EoinW | Apr 5 2026 20:21 utc | 235
 
I am also not quite following this particular theory. I would guess that, if it’s true, they flew in mostly empty C-130s as decoys and left them on the ground to either destroy themselves or let the Iranians have some target practice after the pilots escaped to nearby smaller airborne vehicles like helicopters or maybe tilt-rotor craft like the Osprey flying deathtrap favored by the Marines.  But I wish someone would flesh this theory out a little. Was this done miles from where the crashed pilot was known to be hiding, simply as an expensive and dangerous distraction? 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 5 2026 20:27 utc | 238

“As democracy is perfected, the office of he president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We more toward a lofty ideal. On some great and gllorious day, the plain folks of he land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” HL Mencken
 

Posted by: rms | Apr 5 2026 20:30 utc | 239

Glenn Diesen shows screenshot of Trump’s  “Praise to be Allah” post

Trump appears to unravel as U.S. war of aggression goes terribly wrong

https://t.me/glenndiesen/1978

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 5 2026 20:31 utc | 240

@ JamesBond | Apr 5 2026 20:18 utc | 233
Do you mean they attempted to grab something so heavy they needed such a plane as C130 to lift it? My thought was that it was for filling the tanks of several smaller planes

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 5 2026 20:32 utc | 241

Deep breath in and exhale slowly.
 
Now on the surface, that’ s an incredible amount of hardware and human resources to commit to saving just one serviceman/woman.
 
So, a whole bunch of wild theories are floating around.
 

  • Iran is a sieve and the Americans can land anyway! Look at the photos again, as far as the eye can see, nothing but arid landscape. Someone posted a link showing Iran overlaid on the US showing how large the country is. 2.7- 2.8 times the size of Ukraine.

 

  • Landing of up to 200 SOF personnels! Again, why? What’s around? How far to any military sites? 

 
There’s always a simple answer. The answer is “POW” or hostage. The public opinion back home is all that counts. For a nation brought up on a diet of Hollywood and Marvel comics, “winning” is all that counts.
 
So yes, all that military and human assets expended to “bring home our people”. The rest can be covered up.
 
No Special ops, just one big US style FUBAR, supersized edition.
 
That’s All, Folks!
 
 

Posted by: Suresh | Apr 5 2026 20:32 utc | 242

If the  rescue mission was a ruse or a failure, where is the pilot now? IF he had been rescued, why would his name be withheld? Wouldn’t that be a break from longstanding tradition? 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 5 2026 20:36 utc | 243

it is impressive to watch the asymmetrical warfare tactics hezbollah has resiliently mastered throughout the years …”whether we remain the ash or become the phoenix is up to us” type of posture. 

Posted by: dishwasher | Apr 5 2026 20:38 utc | 244

We need a new term or phrase (such as you might find as a filter term in a search) that excludes useless, pointless activity in fighting oppression.
I suggest ” collective moral magick”.
Ukrainian struggles against busification’ mean almost nothing. Only killing conscription troops matters. “No Kings” protests mean nothing.  Only impeachment followed by Senate CONVICTION means any thing (in a year?).   Assassinations mean nothing. Next guy step forward. Do you get the idea yet?
I am so, so, so, tired of hearing nonsense that goes no where. Example: Trump is nearly 80 and a heartbeat away from eternity. Zelensky survives as long as war goes on. Iran? They have a culture of martyrdom. Picking a fight with them is just stupid unless you like attrition with fanatics. Netanyahu? Facing jail or whatever?  Nothing held back, no standards, no rules, nothing to lose.. How “democracies” got to this point, I have no idea, yet here we are.
War has become binary, NOT analog. Forget “negotiation” – when leadership is a threatened gerontocracy.  Whining, protest,  appeals to reason, appeals to ethics, “international law”, “war crimes” are bullsh*t.  They depend on “collective magick” and mean nothing.

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 5 2026 20:41 utc | 245

@Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 5 2026 20:36 utc | 243

If the  rescue mission was a ruse or a failure, where is the pilot now? IF he had been rescued, why would his name be withheld? Wouldn’t that be a break from longstanding tradition? 

Indeed.
 
It seems plausible that Trump is panicking because he knows things have gone terribly wrong, and many many have died. There is no way he can defend it.
 
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 5 2026 20:41 utc | 246

This may also give a hint ‘hundreds of commandos were involved ‘ – this definitely was not a rescue op of a single pilot.  Press conference tomorrow 1pm with the idiot.
 

Meanwhile, The New York Times reported that two transport aircraft spiriting taking part in the operation n got stuck on the ground and had to be blown up, with three new planes sent into Iran to take the officer and rescue team out.
 
The military then blew up the transport planes so they would not fall into Iran’s hands, the newspaper reported, noting that hundreds of special operations soldiers took part in the mission.

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 20:45 utc | 247

‘Truth’ social..
 
Thats worthy of George Orwell  ‘1984’
 
It’s fake truth, fake reality, and his followers embrace that.
 
No credabilty him or them.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 5 2026 20:47 utc | 248

  Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 5 2026 20:04 utc | 222
 
If it’s broadcasting it’s detectable. Hard and flat rule of physics. From a fraction of a millimeter wavelength to meter+ wavelength, its signal is easily detectable. No amount of r&d can avoid that. You use a cheap microwave within the national quiet zone in WV, spooks show up that afternoon confiscating it replacing it with an appropriately quiet model. Satellite phones would be the absolute worst most bright signal imaginable. I’m not saying these retards wouldn’t try it it’s probable that’s what brought attention to this area. ritter & johnson are currently on ddg youtube stream discussing now, i think ritter still perpetually under the influence of kookaid he’d been given throughout his years of service to the synagogue but none of them are buying that this was just about a missing wso.. Turns out missing guy wasn’t a typical weapons officer and was an intelligence planning fag. Something giant was planned and was completely wrecked doubtful we’ll know what really  happened for a long long time. 

Posted by: NJH | Apr 5 2026 20:49 utc | 249

I would say its fairly obvious to astute observers that the rescue operation was likely related to an aborted and failed attempt to secure enriched uranium and spirit it out of the country on the transport planes. It went FUBAR and people died and they scampered back to their base locations.
 
Meanwhile an unrelated search for a dead copilot turned up nothing but a convenient narrative to cover the above abysmal defeat.
 
It will all come out in the wash. Operation CLUSTERFUCK has only just begun.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 5 2026 20:49 utc | 250

@241,

Do you mean they attempted to grab something so heavy they needed such a plane as C130 to lift it? My thought was that it was for filling the tanks of several smaller planes

C-130s are not used to refill smaller planes. At least I don’t think that model used by them is. But I could be wrong. If the idea was to use something relatively stealth for a quick extraction mission, you don’t use large bulky airplanes like the C-130s. And definitely not more than 1. Also, quite a lot of helicopters as well. Did they expect to encounter a lot of resistance as well?
A lot of stuff doesn’t really make a lot of sense for (again) a quick pilot extraction. Some other people are speculating that it was indeed intended for a larger operation close to Isfahan. I know that the state press was mentioning an operation for getting the uranium but again, this operation was so stupid for any rational actor that they wouldn’t try something like this. But who knows what morons approved this operation. 

Posted by: JamesBond | Apr 5 2026 20:49 utc | 251

CrazyCanuck @ 221
 
Absolutely. If there is any reality in this at all the rescued pilot appears at White House within 48 hours or the Donald is at his military hospital bedside. Both of which seem doubtful. The press should be falling all over themselves to set us up for that and they are not.

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 5 2026 20:52 utc | 252

this operation was so stupid for any rational actor that they wouldn’t try something like this. But who knows what morons approved this operation. 
 
Posted by: JamesBond | Apr 5 2026 20:49 utc | 251

It is fair to say we have truly reached the ‘Maerica, fuck yeah!’ Level of strategic planning. So throw the playbook out the window and lick the nearest windows if you want to comprehend the current losers in chief. These fucks think you can just lie forgetting that one day the lies come out. How long until Americans realize they’ve been sold a bill of goods? 🤔 

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 5 2026 20:53 utc | 253

Officials say Tehran refused a deal to open the Strait of Hormuz in exchange for a temporary ceasefire
Given that the Iranians have said they don’t want a temporary ceasefire anyway, how is this a “deal” that is “in exchange” for anything?

Posted by: Call it what u will | Apr 5 2026 20:54 utc | 254

Nima’s monologue:
 
Nima R. Alkhorshid: Trump Confirms Pilot Rescue as Military Planes Keep Getting DECIMATED

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 5 2026 20:54 utc | 255

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 5 2026 20:41 utc | 246
 
From a TG channel I just found today. @AmericanObserver – Reads like fanfic to me, but tossing it out here anyway. 
 

The US Commandos Rescued the Second Crew Member of a F-15E fighter
PART I
The second crew member of a downed F-15E fighter jet has been rescued by US commandos overnight, ending a dramatic two-day search after the warplane crashed in south-west Iran.
 
The crew member, a colonel and weapons systems officer, had sustained some injuries but was successfully extracted by US special forces, Donald Trump said in a social media post soon after midnight EST.
 
The US president called the operation to recover the air man “one of most daring search and rescue operations in U.S history” – and claimed that not a “single American” had been killed or wounded in the operation.
 
“At my direction, the U.S. Military sent dozens of aircraft, armed with the most lethal weapons in the World, to retrieve him. He sustained injuries, but he will be just fine,” Trump wrote on his Truth Social site.
 
Initial reports indicated that once located hiding in the mountains, the colonel was rescued by a special forces team under a hail of heavy covering fire. Three Iranian Revolutionary Guards were killed, according to Iranian sources.
 
Iran’s military said on Sunday that it had destroyed three US aircraft involved in the search operation and that the Americans had used an abandoned airport in southern Isfahan as a base. State media shared images of charred wreckage scattered across a desert area, with smoke still emanating from the site.
 
At least one $115m Hercules had to be destroyed in Iran because it had run into difficulties, having become bogged down in the ground, according to US media. Extra transport planes had to be flown in to complete the extraction.
 
Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, the speaker of the Iranian parliament, highlighted the cost of the lost aircraft with an apparent photograph of the wreckage: “If the United States gets three more victories like this, it will be utterly ruined.”
 
Footage emerged of what was said to be night-time clashes in Iran’s Kohgiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad province, near the city of Dehdasht, about 30 miles from the coast in the south-west of the country, the area where US searches had been taking place.
 
The pilot of the aircraft had been rescued on Friday, after the F-15E Strike Eagle became the first US plane to be downed over Iran during the five-week-long war, but the second member of the crew could not be located immediately.
 
The US air force had launched a massive search and rescue effort, using low-flying Pave Hawk helicopters and specialist C-130 Hercules transport planes.
 
PART II
 
Uncrewed Reaper drones were used to protect the air man once he had been located, by “striking Iranian military-aged males believed to be a threat who got within three kilometers” according to a correspondent with the US Air & Space Forces Magazine, who said he had been briefed on the operation.
 
Military pilots said the missing F-15 crew member would have been trying to hide for as long as possible from the Iranian military.
 
If possible, the colonel would have tried to transmit their location relative to a known secret point in the hope that US special forces coming in via helicopter would be able to rescue them.
 
It was not clear exactly how the F-15 was downed, although Iran said it had shot it down. The US military did not publicly comment. Trump said on Friday that the episode would not affect efforts to negotiate a peace settlement with Iran.
 
Iranian media released pictures of the wreckage of a plane, including a distinctive F-15 tail fin, and a used ejector seat on Friday, with state media and businesses in the country offering a bounty if the missing crew member could be captured.
 
It also emerged that a Pave Hawk helicopter was hit by fire from the ground during the rescue of the pilot on Friday, but was able to fly away.
 
Another combat plane, an A-10 Warthog attack aircraft, crashed near the strait of Hormuz with Iran claiming it had shot it down. Its pilot was rescued.
 
The loss of the F-15 and other aircraft had come as a relative surprise, given the air superiority the US and Israel have established over Iran from the beginning of the five-week-long war.
 
But it demonstrated that after thousands of bombing missions, Iran still has the capacity to inflict high-profile damage on the US.
 
Trump said the US would never leave an American warfighter behind, committing the country’s military to similar rescue efforts if any more planes are brought down.
 
Meanwhile, heavy bombing of Iran continued. Israel attacked several facilities at Mahshahr, a petrochemical complex in Khuzestan province, on Saturday, and on Sunday Iranian officials said that production there had been shut down.
 
A building close to Iran’s civil Bushehr nuclear power plant was struck on Saturday morning, killing a guard, Iran said.
 
Later, the IAEA atomic energy watchdog said it had been informed by Iran of the incident, the fourth in recent weeks, and added “no increase in radiation levels was reported”.
 
Israel also attacked Lebanon, having issued a warning that people should evacuate at least 300 metres away from a building in southern Beirut that it said was affiliated with Hezbollah. Seven people were recorded as killed in a strike on Kfar Hatta, 30 miles north of the border with Israel.
 
A fire broke out at the Borouge petrochemical plant in the UAE after falling debris from a missile interception caused a blaze, prompting operations at the facility to be suspended. A fire was extinguished at a storage tank belonging to Bahrain’s state energy company, the company said on Sunday.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 5 2026 20:54 utc | 256

Trumpy tard – is already feeding the ‘fake colonel’ saved story. 
 
They’ve already worked out the fake news for the american public with pictures and all for the Press Conference at 1pm Monday. 
 
Atleast they are consistent with their lies and timing of battle, the weekend warriors. 
 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 20:56 utc | 257

It tells you something about these clowns and their beliefs in narratives that they have concocted this entire story framing the downing of a f15 by enemy fire and the subsequent search for the missing copilot which resulted in additional serious losses as a victory. I mean what can you even say to people that stupid? Genuine question.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 5 2026 20:57 utc | 258

Iranian version (video with subtitles):

US claims it ‘DELIBERATELY DESTROYED’ planes in Iran
Iran notes aircraft show SHRAPNEL DAMAGE
‘Most likely IRANIAN AIR DEFENSE’ — IRIB

https://t.me/rtnews/143973

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 5 2026 20:58 utc | 259

Two ———pilots??  Seriously.  How about two hundred— that’s  more of a story.  Two thousand stll better. Especially for the Easter Sunday.  
The best day on Earth will be when Epstein TV screen goes fully blank.  And the radio-stations break the Wizard of Oz monopoly on what we see and hear 24/365. 

Posted by: Mr Bo | Apr 5 2026 20:59 utc | 260

A skull was discovered amidst the wreckage of a downed american aircraft. Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2026 17:29 utc | 132

So TrumpTeamTrix wasn’t lying when they called it a decapitation strike.
 

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 5 2026 20:59 utc | 261

It is my understanding that  Aramaic word for God is Elahi or Alaha. Jesus spoke Aramaic as his mother tongue so he would say Alaha for God.
 

Posted by: 2+2 | Apr 5 2026 21:00 utc | 262

Iran claims the americans destroyed the aircraft on the ground along with personnel to prevent their capture. Plausible? It is, I would say. The Americans care so so so much about public relations. I mean they need to pretend…afterall, the USD depends on it.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 5 2026 21:02 utc | 263

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 20:02 utc | 221
———————-
You would expect that a pilot rescued in such difficult circumstances would be shown in a video, or interviewed or something similar. Here, not only the two crew of the F15E are “MIA”, but it is true for all the other crews shot down by friendly fire or by Iran…

Posted by: scc | Apr 5 2026 21:03 utc | 264

‘I’m Mad I am.’ Level of loony toons cartoon craziness being channeled by DJT47 (absent)minders! Fucking natziofascist 🤡 🤡 🤡
 
He is heading under the bus.
 
 

@alon_mizrahi
7h
Two things that I like about this Trump quote:
 
1. The strategic stupidity of threatening Iran like this when it holds the Bab el Mandeb card and can shut down the Red Sea in 5 minutes notice, causing global havoc; when it has allowed substantial parts of the Gulf to keep operating, but can bring everything to a stop, sending oil prices to $200+, and also when it has major escalatory cards against Israel and other colonial hubs in West Asia.
 
2. The ridiculous attempt by Trump to sound like he’s a blue collar, simple, hard-working American, while growing up in a family of German slumlord billionaires.
 
The military power, the conviction and the self image: all fake.   

What a week we’re entering (after which Iran will look even more glorious than it does today)
 
 
 
@disclosetv
8h
JUST IN – Trump tells Iran: “Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell.”
 
Apr 5, 2026 · 12:40 PM UTC

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 5 2026 21:03 utc | 265

Also a credible rumour Hezbollah hit a British ship, probably HMS Dragon, off the coast. The MoD denied it but I consider the words of any Western MoD to be as reliable as Chemical Ali. Let’s wait to see if the Dragon is quietly redeployes to Crete for logistics or some bullshit.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 5 2026 21:03 utc | 266

This!
 
Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, the speaker of the Iranian parliament, highlighted the cost of the lost aircraft with an apparent photograph of the wreckage: “If the United States gets three more victories like this, it will be utterly ruined.”

Posted by: Suresh | Apr 5 2026 21:06 utc | 267

Was just looking around web for news photos of Trump today. Not much. Not in Walter Reed but looks like ready for that.
 
Is he being set up for a fall? The widely spread Walter Reed story feels like a trial balloon. If he sticks around much longer I’m going with story the powerful man behind the curtain is busy taking the Empire down. Us little people figure it out later. If he goes soon it is damage control and they want to salvage something of US.
 
Whatever happens next, even if Iran has incredible bad luck and makes a series of really bad choices, the US has lost any remaining pretense of moral authority and doesn’t have physical authority either. Iran destroyed all that. If they can do it, anyone can do it. And they will.

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 5 2026 21:08 utc | 268

Who is footing the bill of leaving “no man behind”. policy?
They said that the first pilot was rescued. Did the president visit him? Was he recovered instead? I agree that all the videos can be fake as proved during the superbowl.
Everything could be fake? We only know that Trump is the President of US. He is old. Nothing else is verifiable!
 

Posted by: Jenn | Apr 5 2026 21:08 utc | 269

🇮🇷⚡️🇺🇸🇮🇱 Deputy of Communications for the Iranian President, Mehdi Tabatabaei:
Out of sheer desperation and rage, Trump has resorted to profanity and raving; this bastard fool, in his madness, has sparked an all-out war in the region and still keeps chanting his boasts.
 
The Strait of Hormuz will reopen only when, under a new legal regime, the damages from the imposed war are fully compensated from a portion of the transit toll revenues.

https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/62658
 

🇺🇸⚡️🇮🇷 Trump: Iran is going to open the Strait of Hormuz. I believe they will.

https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/62659
 

🇮🇷⚡️🇺🇸🇮🇱 Iran’s IRGC Navy Command:
 
The Strait of Hormuz will never return to its former state, especially for America and Israel.
 
The IRGC Navy is completing operational preparations for the Iranian authorities’ official plan for the new Persian Gulf order.

https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/62660
 
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 5 2026 21:09 utc | 270

I  read somewhere that Israeli commandos were involved. If so, it’d make sense that their own side bombed them after they got stuck. Presumably their mission was related to the Uranium. 
 

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 5 2026 21:09 utc | 271

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 5 2026 19:48 utc | 211
I always believed that to be the case. In fact, it has come to my attention that one his Zionists does all that work for him.

Posted by: pepe | Apr 5 2026 21:10 utc | 272

A large block of flats has bern struck in Haifa
————‘.
 
Bbc says trumps tweets are a warcrime.
 
Looks like the whole world is now against trump.
 
My view…..  He’s a classic case of the medicine being worse than the ailment.  Or….
 
The operation was a great sucsses but sadly the  patient died.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 5 2026 21:11 utc | 273

BBM: Vanessa Beeley & Dimitri Lascaris
 
https://bettbeat.substack.com/p/did-the-us-turn-iran-into-a-giant
 
“Did the US turn Iran into a giant? A deep conversation about the war on Iran, West Asia in general, and the fate of the world. We discuss how the world must step out of the Western information matrix.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 5 2026 21:15 utc | 274

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 5 2026 20:25 utc | 237
Can you please provide the evidence for these statements: ‘Everyone was mobilized to rescue the pilots.

Posted by: Sentience | Apr 5 2026 21:16 utc | 275

Iran claims the americans destroyed the aircraft on the ground along with personnel to prevent their capture. 
 
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 5 2026 21:02 utc | 263

 
If this is true, then you would expect the Iranians to scavenge through and pick up the relevant ID tags to prove Americans were killed. Scanning and publishing ID tags would be evidence impossible to refute and Iran has so far been very enthusiastic about trolling Trump over any issue.
 
This is where the story gets weird … lots of rumours but not much tangible. I also point out that Trump’s story likewise is a bit hard to accept given the illogical nature of the whole operation.
 
I’m fairly convinced that both sides are putting on a brave face and hiding how bad their casualties are. Given the intensity of US bombing you would expect many more Iranian casualties just among civilians for starters. Israel for sure has been hiding the extent of the damage.

Posted by: Tel | Apr 5 2026 21:18 utc | 276

PLANES CRASHED – NOT BLOWN UP on the GROUND as reported by mainstream media.

🇺🇸🇮🇷 An aviation reporter that covered multiple air crashes claims it’s a plane crash not as the US claims that special forces destroy the planes themselves:“The propeller blades in attached pic are bent backward exactly in a way they do when spinning at high RPM during a crash impact. That’s textbook dynamic. It is downing damage not blowing up of static aircraft”
 

https://s1.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/HFH82wzaUAAm3Ea.jpg

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 21:20 utc | 277

Reply to: Posted by: freedom fritos | Apr 5 2026 18:18 utc | 157
Didn’t you hear what Trump said when Spain said US can not use its territory ,  and his response was we will continue to use the airfields and how are the going to stop us? Another words these countries have to resort to force to force out the occupiers. No other way around it. They are hostage to the US military. As someone had said, when US settles militarily in a country THEY DON’T LEAVE!

Posted by: PeaceSeeker | Apr 5 2026 21:20 utc | 278

Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell – JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah.
 
President DONALD J. TRUMP
 
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 5 2026 14:02 utc | 1
Is Zio Imperialism winning?  Is this how the winner talks?  This little tweet reflects unbelievable frustration and desperation.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 5 2026 21:21 utc | 279

Jenn | Apr 5 2026 18:55 utc | 178
 
Melanesians, Micronesians and Polynesians all shared similar cultural traits when it came to warfare and cannibalism both of which shared rituals and religio-philosphical aspects of their societies. While there’s no historical record of settler genocidal colonialism for those peoples, they’re not innocent, nor does it appear that South Asians or Asiatic Steppe peoples can be deemed innocent. I’m sure if Trump could, he’d have a mountain of skulls amassed within his Ball Room for him to dance around. One of Humanity’s major growing pains is learning not to kill other humans and to cooperate for the greater good of all.      

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 5 2026 21:22 utc | 280

@Sentience | Apr 5 2026 21:16 utc | 275

Can you please provide the evidence for these statements: ‘Everyone was mobilized to rescue the pilots.

It is a direct quote from the link I provided. Just follow it and read for yourself.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 5 2026 21:23 utc | 281

James Bond 251 – KC130’s, the tanker version of the C130 has been used in the current war with Iran.  In fact a photo has been circulated showing a KC130 refueling two HH60’s somewhere over Iran.  
 
I agree its unlikely that one landed in Iran during the SOP rescue mission.
 
The real mystery is why an USAF Colonel would be flying as a weapons officer……..that is complete BS……..more war propaganda nonsense.
 
How many special operators and aircraft were lost in this operation ?

Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 5 2026 21:25 utc | 282

Hope Marat does a writeup on this from a Russian military perspective. Jeez, Martyanov will be laughing so hard he might pop a blood vessel.
 
This episode will go down in military history as to why you NEVER let special ops plan anything Exactly the kind of shit Gen Petraeus would come up with.
 
 

Posted by: Suresh | Apr 5 2026 21:26 utc | 283

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 5 2026 21:22 utc | 280
 
Bugonia… a group of us now use this as shorthand for this toxic trait in our species.

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Apr 5 2026 21:27 utc | 284

Living in the alternate reality zone, in multiple ways: Trump to Axios: Envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner are conducting intensive negotiations with the Iranians

Posted by: Call it what u will | Apr 5 2026 21:28 utc | 285

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 5 2026 21:22 utc | 280 Bugonia… a group of us now use this as shorthand for this toxic trait in our species.
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Apr 5 2026 21:27 utc | 284
 
That’s weird. i was just thinking to myself yesterday.
 
Wouldn’t it be great if the freaky creeps like Lindsay Graham got Begonia’d:)

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 5 2026 21:29 utc | 286

@Ahenobarbus | Apr 5 2026 21:21 utc | 279
 
It reflects a FAILED mission, possibly with dozens of dead American special ops, they took the dead, injured with them.  Still very unclear. 
 
The fact they were able to get away is curious, the IRGC may have let them flee? or they have hostages, and it will be negotiated behind back doors, to force Trump a pullout? ). They could also be allowed to go back as witnesses to the cluster fuck, discourage further misadventures. 
To save face, distract, on the surface Trumpy tard will paint a successful fake mission, that’s their specialty. 
 
When you have fatalities it’s never a happy easter. 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 21:30 utc | 287

If this is true, then you would expect the Iranians to scavenge through and pick up the relevant ID tags to prove Americans were killed.         Posted by: Tel Aviv| Apr 5 2026 21:18 utc | 276
 
Perhaps the Iranians don’t take the same psychopathic glee in their enemies demise.  They also have no need to prove anything to the western ghouls.

Posted by: jhrodd | Apr 5 2026 21:37 utc | 288

Am thinking US missile inventories are at a critically low levels. There have been peeps here and there about low levels. The real question is how low do they go? What are the actual numbers? They are incredibly slow to produce as admitted despite questions on effectiveness, defense. Also design is 20 to 30 years behind current equipment by Russia/China (how has now said they can provide a hypersonic for 100k). I don’t believe the US even has one outside of claims, tested something 2 months ago that failed. Could be wrong. Figured that wiser mind here would know.
  Respectfully 
Hector 

Posted by: Hector | Apr 5 2026 21:38 utc | 289

Iran Reveals FAILED US RESCUE Operation!Mahmood ODhttps://youtu.be/H6kOlEruNv8

Posted by: suhalfen | Apr 5 2026 21:40 utc | 290

How do you randomly crash like that?
Looks like a perfect parking job … before the fire.
 
https://fixvx.com/mylordbebo/status/2040896264615637414

Posted by: Siddhartha | Apr 5 2026 21:42 utc | 291

Hundreds of  heroic pilot rescue teams newsitems in media,and all we get from the historic Artemis mission to the moon are two foto’s of  our planet.
First time since Apollo 17 that people are so far from their place of birth.Shouldn’t that be exciting?Have we become numb?
 
I was waiting in excitement for a clear live-stream of our dear mother Earth spinning majestously on her axis.
All I got was four astronauts frolicking about in their confined space like on the ISS.This is not serious.A clear continuous image would have been the simplest and most pertinent refutation of  flatearth theory.
Discussion to the open thread,please…
 

Posted by: willie | Apr 5 2026 21:42 utc | 292

“If it’s broadcasting it’s detectable”
@NJH | Apr 5 2026 20:49 utc | 249
No that is not true other than at very close range.
If you have a sat phone with a small parabol antenna it is only detectable within a limited solid angle. If it uses spread spectrum /frequency hopping and in addition it isnt close to your measuring equipment the signal drowns in the noise 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 5 2026 21:45 utc | 293

@Siddhartha | Apr 5 2026 21:42 utc | 291
 
Still, in operation Eagle Claw in 1980 a U.S. Navy Sikorsky RH-53D Sea Stallion collided with a U.S. Air Force Lockheed EC-130E Hercules, so …
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw#/media/File:Eagle_Claw_wrecks_at_Desert_One.png

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 5 2026 21:48 utc | 294

Fool Me Twice | Apr 5 2026 21:27 utc | 284
Tannenhouser | Apr 5 2026 21:29 utc | 286
 
The link provided was infected. Rather crazed SciFi film. History.com says of Bugonia: “Inside the ancient belief that bees could emerge from cattle carcass.” Graham would provide a fitting carcass as he’s as intelligent as a cow.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 5 2026 21:53 utc | 295

Fool Me Twice | Apr 5 2026 21:27 utc | 284—Tannenhouser | Apr 5 2026 21:29 utc | 286— The link provided was infected. Rather crazed SciFi film. History.com says of Bugonia: “Inside the ancient belief that bees could emerge from cattle carcass.” Graham would provide a fitting carcass as he’s as intelligent as a cow.
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 5 2026 21:53 utc | 295
 
Infected? 
 
I have never heard of Bugonia as relating to bees and beef.
 
Thanks for that.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 5 2026 21:57 utc | 296

@Siddhartha | Apr 5 2026 21:42 utc | 291
 
That’s a fake ‘top down projected image’ doesn’t even correspond to the actual sights.  The terrain is different, and no satellite images were released, which could also be easily altered.  Could be a case of both, some crashed, and the remaining that were not retrievable destroyed.  

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 21:57 utc | 297

So, a pilot will arise tomorrow?
 

Trump to PERSONALLY JOIN NEWS CONFERENCE tomorrow after pilot rescue
‘POPULAR DEMAND’ — White House
‘Don’t miss it’

https://t.me/rtnews/143983

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 5 2026 21:57 utc | 298

@CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 21:57 utc | 297
 
Drones exist.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 5 2026 21:58 utc | 299

IRGC calls the destroyed planes a deception
 

2 C-130 transports and 2 Black Hawk choppers ‘DESTROYED’ in ‘THWARTED’ US op — Iran Army Spox
 
‘So-called rescue op was planned as deception and escape op under PRETEXT of rescuing pilot’
 
Trump ‘tries to escape scene of DEFEAT through psychological warfare’

https://t.me/EurasianChoice/60770

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 5 2026 22:02 utc | 300