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April 5, 2026
Iran Open Thread 2026-070
News & views related to the war in Iran …
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Scc @ 113 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 5 2026 16:33 utc | 101
Posted by: malenkov | Apr 5 2026 16:36 utc | 102 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 5 2026 15:44 utc | 76 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Apr 5 2026 16:37 utc | 103 Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 5 2026 14:07 utc | 9
Yes, I think so. This is done to ensure military ramp-up. To me, it looks like “how can we convince as many US Americans that more troops are necessary?”. People who’ve lived through the Vietnam war must have seen similar. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Apr 5 2026 16:38 utc | 104
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 5 2026 16:39 utc | 105 This is Trump’s exit ramp out of the presidency, and for Vance to enter as the savior to save us all from the horror of a nuclear mishap in Iran. Posted by: Jane | Apr 5 2026 16:39 utc | 106 scene from the film The Downfall; how soon will Tel Aviv experience such scenes (start as 1;12) Posted by: exile | Apr 5 2026 16:42 utc | 107 No doubt most of the Arab states ‘ have seen the writing on the wall’ and giveing cordanantes for worthwhile Iran missile attacks, on US bases. Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 5 2026 16:44 utc | 108 What’s a little odd about the rescue story is that they landed 2 c130s. Definitely not to refuel as that is possuble from the air (not 100% sure about little birds) and the location is not even 250km from Kuwaits Buehring airbase. Posted by: SOS | Apr 5 2026 16:48 utc | 109 James o’Donnell 120 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 5 2026 16:53 utc | 110 Pencil or pen… “Trump sets deadline for Iran: Until Tuesday at 8:00 PM EST before the stations are bombed” Via Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma Posted by: Ornot | Apr 5 2026 16:58 utc | 111 The House Always Wins Posted by: simon crow | Apr 5 2026 17:03 utc | 112 @105 AuH Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 5 2026 17:03 utc | 113 Bbc main radio news of the day just report… Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 5 2026 17:05 utc | 114 102 – Perhaps, but I have lived in Germany (and Austria). Perceived guilt over WW2 makes them resolutely avoid anything that could possibly be termed “anti-Semitic”. Posted by: Waldorf | Apr 5 2026 17:05 utc | 115 Reply to: Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 14:16 utc | 18 Posted by: PeaceSeeker | Apr 5 2026 17:09 utc | 116 Typos…. secound para…. Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 5 2026 17:10 utc | 117 Jane@1639: Trump out and Vance in? Could we be looking at from the frying pan into the fire? Okay, so Vance is younger, smoother and far less volatile than T. Rump Rex. However, he too is OWNED. I do not trust any major from SillyCone Valley. With the exception of his South African fascist background, the V.P. is also owned by that nasty nest of invidious Talmudist Superjews, who aren’t even of original Hebrew extraction. Khazarians, the lot of them, I would suspect. Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 5 2026 17:11 utc | 118 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 5 2026 16:33 utc | 101 Posted by: scc | Apr 5 2026 17:19 utc | 120 scc @ 113
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 5 2026 17:19 utc | 121 Waldorf@1705: True enough about the Germanic headbeating on account of dirty deeds done more than 80 years ago. That trauma can be erased when they are fully informed about the total evil which emblemates the Regime in Occupied Palestine. That said, the Germans, in particular, are still under U$$A military occupation. The U$$A and the U.K. have refused to sign a PEACE TREATY with the Berlin government. Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 5 2026 17:19 utc | 122 Israel desalination plant taken out. Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2026 17:20 utc | 123 Posted by: Waldorf | Apr 5 2026 17:05 utc | 115 Posted by: Jenn | Apr 5 2026 17:21 utc | 124 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 5 2026 17:05 utc | 114 Posted by: scc | Apr 5 2026 17:22 utc | 125 Look at life expectancies around the world. Notice that sharp dip in the 2020s for Italy and America, and the absence of such a dip for Japan and China? That’s because Italians and Americans rejected vaccinations and masks, while the Japanese and the Chinese didn’t. Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 5 2026 16:39 utc | 105 Posted by: Allen | Apr 5 2026 17:22 utc | 126 I am aware that pilots on foreign territory have the opportunity to communicate with their own side without the signals being intercepted but my first thought was that the US would buy/bribe the opposing side to facilitate saving such a pilot. Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 5 2026 17:27 utc | 127 Democrats and scattered Republicans are criticizing President Trump’s blistering and obscene threats to Iran. Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic minority leader, said in a statement that the president was “ranting like an unhinged madman.” Former Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Georgia Republican and former Trump ally, wrote on X that the president’s approach was “insane.” And Don Bacon, a Nebraska Republican, said in a text message that “Americans don’t want their President to be profane and vulgar.” He added, “Part of leadership is self-control.” New York Times just now Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 5 2026 17:27 utc | 128 Just saw a headline from Trump saying the F-15 pilot was rescued! Is it true? Anybody has an alternative source link? Posted by: PeaceSeeker | Apr 5 2026 17:27 utc | 129 Supposedly USS Boxer with the second MEU just passed Hawaii 3 days ago. Posted by: SOS | Apr 5 2026 17:28 utc | 130 No Wonder It Apparently Went Disastrously Wrong… Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 5 2026 17:28 utc | 131
Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2026 17:29 utc | 132 NYT contd. ‘An advisor to Iran’s new Supreme Leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, has threatened to orchestrate the closure of another strategic waterway, a move that could increase disruption to global trade and oil and gas suppllies caused by the war. The advisor, Ali Akbar Velayati, warned in a social media post on Sunday that Iran could target the strait of Bab al-Mandab, a narrow shipping route at the southern end of the Red Sea. Iran has effectively closed the Strait of Hormuz, a vital transit route for gas and oil from the Persian Gulf, spurring a sharp rise in global energy prices.’
Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 5 2026 17:30 utc | 133 Light Years@1719: NATO must die. The E.U. requires dismemberment. It is not governed by its elected representatives of their national governments. Rather, the orders come from City of London and the Vatican, in full embrace to protect the interest of City banksters and the Old Black Nobility, so called, whose power dates back to the original Roman Empire. Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 5 2026 17:31 utc | 134 Mr. Trump has never shied away from threats and occasional vulgar language on social media, but this post would have stood out on any day, much less on what most Christians consider the holiest day of the year.“Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran,” he wrote a little after 8 a.m. “Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell — JUST WATCH. Praise be to Allah.” Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 5 2026 17:32 utc | 135 Dr.Sam Youssef Ph.D.,M.Sc.,DPT. on X: “⛔️Breaking news ‼️ ⛔️Sources from inside Iran confirmed that the failed American landing operation last night was not about rescue mission as the the Trump administration claims and lies as usual‼️ ⛔️They were after the Uranium in Isfahan and got decimated right away‼️ https://t.co/zv5mlLv8BM” / X Posted by: dp | Apr 5 2026 17:34 utc | 136 Too Scents @ 123 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 5 2026 17:34 utc | 137 Posted by: scc | Apr 5 2026 17:22 utc | 125 Posted by: Jenn | Apr 5 2026 17:36 utc | 138 DT said “dozens”of planes were sent to the rescue….any proof? Iran seems to be saying it has started to use it’s jet fighters, but apparently on this occaisoon-opportunity? Posted by: Jo | Apr 5 2026 17:38 utc | 139 Don Firineach@1727: Please try to abjure your ongoing usage of THEIR semantics. “Democratic Party”. Purest balderdash. That outfit, equal to that of their GOP “opponents” is not in the least metric DEMOCRATIC. They are the Democrat party. That organization is under full control of it’s CENTRAL COMMITTEE…Soviet style…as per the Republicritic Party. Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 5 2026 17:38 utc | 140 “Khazarians, the lot of them, I would suspect.” Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 5 2026 17:39 utc | 141 Checking the photos of the C130 wrecks. There are 12.5mm bullet holes everywhere on the wings and body. Just my observation. Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 5 2026 17:41 utc | 142 Allen@1722: Thanks for sharing the FACTS about those genocidal jabs. They are “gifts” which continue taking and taking numerous lives of “useless eaters”…according to the diktats of the financier elite. Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 5 2026 17:43 utc | 143 Posted by: Allen | Apr 5 2026 17:22 utc | 126 Posted by: scc | Apr 5 2026 17:48 utc | 144 Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 5 2026 16:39 utc | 105 Posted by: Jane | Apr 5 2026 17:51 utc | 145 petersgrfstrm@1739: A bit naive, but with some insights. The Khazarians originated as a Turco-Ugrian tribal nation from the upper Volga region. Over time, that tribal entity agglomerated additional peoples, including Slavs, Georgians, Armenians and Anatolians, primarily. The latter iteration is well encapsulated by the small city of Ashkenaz in northeastern Anatolia. Those non-semitic Judaics of the Talmudist presentation are not quite a genuine nation as like America, they are an amalgam. Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 5 2026 17:52 utc | 146 Posted by: Jenn | Apr 5 2026 17:36 utc | 138 Posted by: scc | Apr 5 2026 17:52 utc | 147 Jane@1639: Trump out and Vance in? Could we be looking at from the frying pan into the fire? . . . Posted by: Jane | Apr 5 2026 17:59 utc | 148 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 5 2026 17:39 utc | 141 Posted by: Jenn | Apr 5 2026 18:01 utc | 149 psychohistorian | Apr 5 2026 15:00 utc | 50—
There are 12.5mm bullet holes everywhere on the wings and body.
Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2026 18:05 utc | 151 Posted by: Waldorf | Apr 5 2026 17:05 utc | 115 Posted by: joey | Apr 5 2026 18:06 utc | 152 MOATS, with George Galloway: Day 37: ‘The Final Countdown’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 5 2026 18:07 utc | 153 Don Firineach | Apr 5 2026 17:32 utc | 135— Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 5 2026 17:52 utc | Posted by: Bluedotterel | Apr 5 2026 18:15 utc | 155 This is definitely the breakup of NATO. A large german MSM outlet (Spiegel) writes: ”Anfeindungen gegen Christen in Jerusalem Siebenmal spucken jüdische Passanten vor ihm auf den Boden” Posted by: freedom fritos | Apr 5 2026 18:18 utc | 157 @aristodemos | Apr 5 2026 17:52 utc | 146 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 5 2026 18:24 utc | 158 Machine translated
Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2026 18:26 utc | 159 Jane@1759: My response to your statement was only tangentially connected to that. No knock on you. The door was opened and I entered. Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 5 2026 18:26 utc | 160 Lavrov had two phone conversations today, one with Ahmed Araghchi and the other with Wang Yi, with both readouts focusing on the upcoming UNSC vote on the Bahrani draft. Here are the relevant sections from the two PR readouts:
@Jenn | Apr 5 2026 17:36 utc | 138 Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 5 2026 18:31 utc | 162 According to Dr. Sam Youssef, the so-called “rescue operation for a downed US pilot” may have been a cover for a larger operation to establish initial “entry routes” for an American ground invasion. Posted by: ak74 | Apr 5 2026 18:33 utc | 163 @aristodemos | Apr 5 2026 17:38 utc | 140 Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 5 2026 18:34 utc | 164 Odd that they flew in c130’s. Posted by: jared | Apr 5 2026 18:34 utc | 165
What about orban? if you recall he had the Polish leader of the Zionist country visiting him while the zionist colonizers was under ICC (another subservient entity) arrest warrant. Posted by: Jenn | Apr 5 2026 18:34 utc | 166
Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2026 18:36 utc | 167 A skull found in a wreck of C130 according to MiddleEastSpectator Posted by: KillerDoll | Apr 5 2026 18:36 utc | 168 Trump isn’t going mad or rogue, he’s managed exactly like every other president, Biden spat out the same hateful venom, seems different only because it has been intensifying with each president. After the failure of the planned easy victories against Russia and Iran what we are witnessing is the USA leadership coming to the understanding that it is confronting united enemies more powerful than them, and it is gathering up all weapons nobel and ignoble, glorious, vainglorious, and inglorious, moral and immoral as force multipliers. Like the Nazis and the Japanese facing the British and USA empires the USA elites are convinced they have no option but to leverage hatred, cruelty and brutality to win its end of history existential hegemonic war. Trump’s natural one dimensionality and crudeness is studiously being used to promote this new barbaric and uncompromising attitude and psychology in the American mind. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 5 2026 18:40 utc | 169 @Don Firineach | Apr 5 2026 18:31 utc | 162 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 5 2026 18:42 utc | 170 This is Trump’s exit ramp out of the presidency, and for Vance to enter as the savior to save us all from the horror of a nuclear mishap in Iran. Posted by: freedom fritos | Apr 5 2026 16:22 utc | 109====================This seems possible!Maybe Trump is just tired of being president.Maybe this second round is really more than he can handle.The transformation from the “young” mentality and identification (I am still young, I can handle anything) to the “old” (I cannot handle everything; now I “get” what ageing actually means; now I have to seriously prioritize) can take place quite quickly—say, within the space of one winter. Kind of a quantum leap downward. Posted by: freedom fritos | Apr 5 2026 18:42 utc | 171
We did not get here overnight. Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 5 2026 18:42 utc | 172 Trump’s doing his best to imitate Roy Cohn. Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 5 2026 18:47 utc | 173 @Jenn | Apr 5 2026 18:34 utc | 166 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 5 2026 18:50 utc | 174 Don Firineach | Apr 5 2026 18:47 utc | 173— petergrfstrm: Clearly, you have invested much time and energy in an honest attempt to unwind this snarly snangle. Ever since reading Arthur Koestler’s “The Thirteenth Tribe” shortly after it was published in ’68; I’ve managed to vacuum up virtual reams of observations, suppositions and even redactions and interpolations regarding the Khazarian/Ashkenazi origins and developments. Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 5 2026 18:54 utc | 176 Johnny Dollark at 59: and how certain are you the two so consummate liars like trump and hegseth actually tell the truth!? Posted by: Nisses | Apr 5 2026 18:54 utc | 177 Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 5 2026 18:31 utc | 162 Posted by: Jenn | Apr 5 2026 18:55 utc | 178
Imagine if Putin would post things like that (not that he ever would). Western media and politicians would loose their minds completely. Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | Apr 5 2026 18:58 utc | 179 @Jane: So no misunderstanding, I kinda changed my mind in between posts! Posted by: freedom fritos | Apr 5 2026 19:00 utc | 181 @ petergrfstrm | Apr 5 2026 18:42 utc | 170 Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 5 2026 19:01 utc | 182 The Gift that keeps on giving… 😉 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 19:04 utc | 183 Anyone care to speculate about the possible reasons Iranian air defenses suddenly improved? Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 5 2026 19:05 utc | 184 Answer to my own question ..The weapons systems officer, a lieutenant colonel, is injured during the ejection and becomes separated from the pilot. US Air Force Pararescue special forces soldiers in HH-60W Jolly Green 2 helicopters mount a rescue accompanied by MC-130J refuelling aircraft. They extract the pilot but are unable to reach the other crewman. Two helicopters are hit but escape with crew injured. An A-10 Warthog is also hit and crashes. Posted by: Jo | Apr 5 2026 19:06 utc | 185 @Jenn Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 5 2026 19:08 utc | 186
In a STATE of WAR! never ever listen to the WIFE for advice. This rule does not apply if your deranged, delusional, pyschopath. Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 19:08 utc | 187 Helmuth179–you mean Putin cannot message that two Oreshnik will be on their way to Brussels HQ NATO and EU HQ? Posted by: Jo | Apr 5 2026 19:11 utc | 188 Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 19:13 utc | 189 Don Firineach@1834: Gotcha. You have a stronger stomach than I do. For several years I received copies of the NYT from a friend who would otherwise have taken them to his fire pit after perusing them. I initially read much of their international and national coverage during the earliest 90’s. Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 5 2026 19:14 utc | 190 Helmuth von Moltke @ 179
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 5 2026 19:16 utc | 191 Jo@1911: A brace of Oreshniks for those butt-pimples in Brussels would disove a few problems. Hopefully, they would not dispatch them during working orders…except for hapless janitors whom I would mourn. When all the debris is removed, perhaps those sites would be left fallow, with perhaps some topsoil and compost added. Imagine the fine green sprouts Brussels could enjoy. Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 5 2026 19:19 utc | 192 Would it be too embarrassing to say that you were possibly shot down by Shepherds who were herding sheep? Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 19:19 utc | 193 Posted by: jared | Apr 5 2026 18:34 utc | 165 Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 5 2026 19:20 utc | 194 🇺🇸⚔️🇮🇷 With the Airfield geolocated, we now have significant confidence to assume that the area of rescue was in the Kolah Ghazi National Park, South-East of Isfahan, Population 2.2m. Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Apr 5 2026 19:20 utc | 195
Yes, of course. No contradiction from me. Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | Apr 5 2026 19:22 utc | 196 AI, i.e. Leo says:
Therefore, while 12.5mm is not a standard caliber for military rifles or heavy machine guns, it is used in specific Russian military and law enforcement sidearms. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Apr 5 2026 19:25 utc | 197
AIUI Iranian AD has had some success shooting down Reaper drones, Tomahawks and JASSMs. Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 5 2026 19:25 utc | 198 The reports that the F-15E Strike Eagle crashed in the Kohgiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad districts in Khuzestan was a CIA deception meant to fool Iranian search parties. Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2026 19:28 utc | 199 Haven’t read all posts yet, maybe someone else has noticed. Trump does not issue tweets that short. The vulgarity is notable even for him. He’s not right. Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 5 2026 19:32 utc | 200 |
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