Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
March 14, 2026
War On Iran: The Saudis’ Alternative Crude Export Outlet Is Also A Trap

Saudi Arabia is trying to avoid damage from the war on Iran by diverting oil exports from the Persian Gulf to the Red Sea through its East-West pipeline. This scheme however will fail at least as long as it takes part in that war.

During the 1980s the rulers of Saudi Arabia feared that another war between Iran and Iraq would close the Strait of Hormuz. In normal times Saudi Arabia would export between 6 to 8 million barrels of crude oil per day through its Persian Gulf side harbors. The closure of the Strait would have threatened all oil export capabilities for Saudi crude.


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A pipeline system was built to allow for the divergence of crude from the Saudi east coast in the Persian Gulf to its west coast at the Red Sea. The system consisted of two strings – one for crude, the other for natural gas liquids. The capacity of the pipeline is about 5 million barrels per day for crude plus an additional 2 million barrels if the natural gas pipeline is converted to crude and used too.

The East-West pipeline, also known as Petroline, ends at the Read Sea harbor city of Yanbu where several refineries convert a share of the crude to products that are locally used. The crude oil export capacity of Yanbu is estimated to be  between 3 to 5 million barrels per day.

Due to the recent USraeli war on Iran the Strait of Hormuz was closed. Saudi Arabia immediately reacted by diverting crude from its eastern ports through the East-West pipeline towards Yanbu.

According to Windward:

Saudi Arabia has reportedly curtailed approximately 2.0–2.5 million barrels per day of offshore production, including output from the Safaniya, Marjan, Zuluf, and Abu Safa fields, representing roughly 20% of national output.

Saudi Arabia has pivoted onshore Arab Light volumes onto the 7 million b/d Petroline, pushing Yanbu exports to approximately 2.47 million b/d, a 330% increase compared with pre-crisis levels.

That shift is now visible in fleet behavior. Twenty-seven VLCCs are currently heading toward Yanbu, compared with 18 vessels for Jeddah and three each for Jizan, Duba, and Rabigh. This concentration indicates that Yanbu is now serving as the primary outlet for Petroline-delivered crude and the central node of Saudi Arabia’s Red Sea export workaround.


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Notice the (blue) Very Large Crude Carriers (VLCC) on the map coming from Asia, passing through the Arabian Sea, along the Gulf of Aden, through the narrow Bab el-Mandeb strait passage and into the Red Sea. This is a one-way road as VLCCs are too big to pass through the Suez Canal at the north-west (upper left) corner of the map. These ships will have to come back along the same route that takes them to Yanbu.

The Saudi rulers have done well with the diversion of oil from the eastern to the western export facilities. This move would have been a winning one if the closure of Hormuz had been caused by a war between Iran and Iraq.

This war however was launched by the U.S. and Israel and, as a U.S. vassal, Saudi Arabia is part of it. Its airports and air-space are used for fueling U.S. airplanes which are bombing Iran. Last night five U.S. Air Force refueling planes were struck and damaged on the ground at Prince Sultan air base in Saudi Arabia.

Iran has allies which have helped it to widen the war to the region. Shia militia in Iraq have attacked local U.S. bases. Hizbullah in Lebanon is diverting Israeli forces by dragging them into a local fight. Then there Ansar Islam, aka the Houthi, in Yemen which says it is ready to soon join the struggle on the side of Iran:

Senior Houthi official Mohammed al-Bukhaiti says the group has decided to stand militarily with Iran and will announce “Hour Zero” (start of action) at the appropriate time.

Between 2015 and 2022 the Saudis fought, and lost, a war against the Houthi of Yemen. During that war, in May 2019, the Saudi East-West pipeline took hits:

The Houthis, who are at war with Saudi Arabia, said earlier Tuesday they launched seven drones targeting vital Saudi installations, without elaborating. They later claimed responsibility for the pipeline attack in comments broadcast by Houthi military spokesman Brig. Gen. Yahya Sari.

The Saudis did not immediately assign blame for the drone assaults, which targeted two oil pumping stations west of the capital supplying the pipeline that runs from the east of Saudi Arabia to the Yanbu Port on its western coast.

Saudi Aramco, the government-controlled oil company, said that as a precaution, it temporarily shut down the East-West Pipeline and contained a fire, which caused minor damage to one pumping station.

In October 2023, out of solidarity with people of Gaza who were under attack by Israel, the Houthi closed the Bab el-Mandeb and Red Sea for all U.S./Israel aligned traffic. The U.S. Navy tried for several months to reopen the Red Sea but failed. In October 2025, after a ceasefire in Gaza, the Houthi did lift their Red Sea blockade.

Now U.S. President Donald Trump is dreaming of Chinese war ships to help him reopen the Strait of Hormuz. This as Iran is planing, with the help of the Houthi, to also close Bab el-Mandeb and to shut down Red Sea traffic:

Iranian decision makers indicate that the Americans appear to be failing to understand that, for Iran, this is an existential war. In such a context, nothing is considered too precious to sacrifice.

With the approval of the new leader, Sayyed Mojataba Khamenei, it was agreed that if the US strikes or lands on any Iranian installations, Tehran is prepared to escalate dramatically.

Possible approved responses include:
1. Closure of Bab el Mandeb and attacks on Red Sea ports exporting oil, expanding the war to a vital global shipping route.

The Saudi move to divert crude oil export from the Persian Gulf to the Red Sea via the East-West pipeline was smart and timely. But it will not help as long as the Saudis are part of the USraeli side in the war on Iran.

The East-West pipeline has already been proven to be vulnerable to drone attacks launched from Iran or the Houthi controlled parts of Yemen. The Saudi Red Sea export outlet in Yanbu will be cut off from most global traffic when the Houthi decide to again close the Red Sea and to stop traffic through Bab el Mandeb.

Saudi export will then be restricted to Suez-sized tankers which can reach Yanbu through the canal without passing Yemen. Any VLCC currently moving into the Read Sea to load in Yanbu will be effectively trapped.

Comments

You’re using Idi Amin as an example of something positive?
 
Sheesh.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:15 utc | 801

There is a video out saying that the USS Carney has been sunk. Google says this is fake news.  I don’t see any other sources confirming this. Any comments?

Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 15 2026 22:19 utc | 802

Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 15 2026 22:19 utc | 844
 
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Saw that and deliberately didn’t report it. I was waiting for verification through Twitter.
 
It may have happened, it may not have happened.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 22:24 utc | 803

Posted by: snake | Mar 15 2026 15:53 utc | 672
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Absent nation-states, how are people actually supposed to manifest self-determination?
 
Short answer, please.

Posted by: Jane | Mar 15 2026 22:24 utc | 804

🇯🇵⚡ A Japanese leader just told the truth:
 
“Okinawa, Sasebo, Yokosuka, Atsugi — all are being used as launch bases for the US lawless attacks on Iran. If Iran has the capability, Japan has been placed in a position where it cannot complain even if retaliatory missiles come flying.”
 
This is the cost of hosting the empire. You become a target. You lose the right to complain.
 
Japan’s bases are now US launchpads. Japan’s soil is now US territory. Japan’s people are now in the crosshairs.
 
The warning is clear: Iran can strike back. Japan will pay the price. And Tokyo cannot complain.
 
The Japanese government must say no. Reject the use of bases. Refuse to be a launchpad.
 
The people already said no. 10,000 in Tokyo. Thousands in Kyoto. Now a leader speaks.
 
Will the government listen? Or will they keep hosting the bombs while the missiles fly toward their own cities?
 
The choice is Japan’s. The consequences will be shared.

 
https://x.com/Its_ereko/status/2033127931711566256
 
I can’t tell if the source is a Japanese newspaper or if it is a synopsis of the subtweet.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 22:27 utc | 805

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:15 utc | 843
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Malcolm X:
“I’m interested in the truth, no matter who tells it.”

Posted by: Jane | Mar 15 2026 22:28 utc | 806

Posted by: Jane | Mar 15 2026 22:24 utc | 846
 
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States are abstractions. Shadow puppets on the cave wall.
 
There is no freedom inside Plato’s Cave for those who won’t risk testing the entrance.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 22:30 utc | 807

The Israel Lobby: 20 years later w/ John Mearsheimer – The Grayzone live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFRD3Ei-4k4
 
Coming up on the 20th anniversary of the publication of Mearsheimer and Walt’s The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, Max Blumenthal of The Grayzone has John Mearsheimer as a guest. Later in the long (2:52) video, Aaron Mate joins them.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:30 utc | 808

Any comments? Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 15 2026 22:19 utc | 844
 
Yes. This same fake Chinese narrator is featured in other AI videos, where he pronounces “1,200” as “one, two hundred.”
 
The video is patently fake.

Posted by: Jim H | Mar 15 2026 22:33 utc | 809

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:15 utc | 843
He also expelled the Indians  which the British had planted in Uganda to control the native population
 

Posted by: Monty | Mar 15 2026 22:33 utc | 810

In my opinion the Iraq war never really ended. Wouldn’t it be hilarious if this time the US lost two wars at the same time, not just one? A score settled for Iraq, and one for Iraq.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 15 2026 22:03 utc | 838
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The Iraqi govt. has repeatedly told the USA to leave their country.
The USA keeps “advisory forces” there, supposedly to combat ISIS. 
Now seems like a good time to clarify what “Get out of our country” means. (For a lot of people!! )

Posted by: Jane | Mar 15 2026 22:34 utc | 811

Malcolm X:
“I’m interested in the truth, no matter who tells it.”
Posted by: Jane | Mar 15 2026 22:28 utc | 848
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For an incisive thinker like Malcolm X, sure.
For the great unwashed masses, nah; “the truth” should come from someone credible.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:35 utc | 812

A few words about all the Schrodinger’s Bibi speculations. 
It is interesting that the Israeli establishment reacted on the “social media” rumours at all. Seems they had some impact. 
Whether the new vid is “real” or just another “AI” fabrication, I do not know. Generally, I wonder how hard it would be to find a Bibi actor, or just cut a few older videos.
In which stage Schrodinger’s Bibi is, I do not know. Of course I wish him the best – in hell.

Posted by: aquadraht | Mar 15 2026 22:36 utc | 813

@844 Perimtre

“However, information from the Pentagon and the US Navy indicates that a Hormuz Surface Action Group (SAG) prepared for „Operation Epic Escort“ (working title?) as an escort for maritime traffic in the strait, consisting of USS Carney (DDG 64) as lead ship…”

https://marineforum.online/en/iran-war-maritime-aspects-after-2-weeks/

Apart that no mention of it at any site I read…

Posted by: Ornot | Mar 15 2026 22:37 utc | 814

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:35 utc | 854
 
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Who determines credibility?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 22:38 utc | 815

Any comments? Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 15 2026 22:19 utc | 844
 Yes. This same fake Chinese narrator is featured in other AI videos, where he pronounces “1,200” as “one, two hundred.”
 The video is patently fake.
Posted by: Jim H | Mar 15 2026 22:33 utc | 851
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Max Blumenthal says that all this “AI” slop is being disseminated by those who want to discredit non-mainstream “narratives” on how the war is going.
 
Basically poisoning the well.
 
BS discriminators set on full power!

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:38 utc | 816

Posted by: Dave | Mar 15 2026 21:29 utc | 818
US NEVER has won a war exclusive by bombing, it suffered a strategic defeat in Vietnam fater using in the north of 200 B52 in daily carpet bombing of North Vietnam, they never achieve the results they expected, nor in Korea. Of course yes, they killed a lot of people, but at the end the US soldiers and civilians left Saigon from the roof of the US embassy in a total and unquestionable defeat.
In Irak, even after more than 2 decades of sanctions and bombing they have to sent boots on the ground to achieve regime change, and then the real war started.
In Germany the US army received a small “help” from 12 millions red army soldiers that killed 80% of the german soldiers in the WWII. Of course the allied needed around 20 millions soldiers to finish Nazi Germany, in the midst of the unrestricted bombing campaign on Germany, the production of weapons were INCREASING until the nasty ruskies start to invade Germany. I am quite sure the weapons production in Iran is INCREASING right now that they are in the begining of a war of attrition against US and Israel without no end in sight.
 
 
 

Posted by: DaveFC | Mar 15 2026 22:40 utc | 817

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:15 utc | 843
 
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George, you’re a narrow-minded and establishment thinker. A “good goy”. Someone who believes every narrative the Empire promotes without question.
 
You may find the discussions in the NYT comment section more to your tastes.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 22:41 utc | 818

Who determines credibility?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 22:38 utc | 857
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That’s a really easy one:
 
You do. I do. We all do.
 
It’s up to us to calibrate our BS discriminators as accurately as we possibly can.
 
How do we do that?
That’s a much more complex matter, and I have no definite answers, no sure-fire methods. But we certainly need to at least attempt to do this.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:41 utc | 819

You’re using Idi Amin as an example of something positive? Sheesh.
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:15 utc | 843

Right now, next to the Orange Golem and Jazz Hands Netanyahu, he looks kinda sane.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 15 2026 22:42 utc | 820

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:35 utc | 854
 
Do you now understand a little of our suffering in Africa?
 
People even come to explain to us, and to the world on our behalf, that Idi Amin Dada, Bokassa, Mobutu, and others were “African Pan-Africanist heroes.”
 
It hurts to the core.
 
But you are supposed to STFU and go along, if not you are an “opponent” or a “traitor”.
To what or whom, only God knows.

Posted by: Sebgo | Mar 15 2026 22:42 utc | 821

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 21:44 utc | 826
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I sure hope US taxpayers are not paying for this.
 
And I hope they do not come here . . .
Maybe they will all be taken to NYC.
 

Posted by: Jane | Mar 15 2026 22:43 utc | 822

@ Perimeter and Lovedonbass
indeed several web sites mention and détail many US and Israéli key Asset losses :
– F35, F15, E3, KC135 on bases in Israël and Gulf states
– many civilian planes @ BenGourion airport,
– damages on both US carriers.
Shortage of confirmation for the time in each such case
 

Posted by: Dany | Mar 15 2026 22:43 utc | 823

George, you’re a narrow-minded and establishment thinker. A “good goy”. Someone who believes every narrative the Empire promotes without question.
 You may find the discussions in the NYT comment section more to your tastes.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 22:41 utc | 860
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WTF????
 
First of all, I’m not a goy; I’m a Jew, if that makes any difference.
 
Second of all, how do you figure I’m “narrow-minded”? And an “establishment thinker”? Again, WTF?
 
So in your estimation exercising good judgment and even skepticism when it comes to these kinds of claims means you’re someone who consumes the NYT as “the truth”?
 
You’re waaaaay off base here, Bub.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:44 utc | 824

For an incisive thinker like Malcolm X, sure.For the great unwashed masses, nah; “the truth” should come from someone credible.
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:35 utc | 854
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Huh?
You obviously are not an incisive thinker yourself.
You have a serious  case of adhominemitis.
You totally missed the point of Malcolm X’s statement.

Posted by: Jane | Mar 15 2026 22:46 utc | 825

🚨 Breaking: Reports of an intense Iranian missile attack on Tel Aviv! 🚀
 
According to reports, several senior Israeli commanders were killed, and flames have risen in different parts of the city. 🔥
 
The world’s eyes are now fixed on the Middle East — this event could change the history of the region. 🌍

 
12-second video of Tel-Aviv on fire . 
https://x.com/QBC_QBC/status/2033290934977458657

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 22:46 utc | 826

I’m a Jew
I’m a Jew
I’m a Jew
I’m a Jew
I’m a Jew
 
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:44 utc | 866
 
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Every.
Single.
Time.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 22:46 utc | 827

You totally missed the point of Malcolm X’s statement.
Posted by: Jane | Mar 15 2026 22:46 utc | 867
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And you totally missed my point:
 
To an incisive thinker like Malcolm X, it did not matter who spoke “the truth”, because he was able to discern it regardless of the personality.
 
Not so for the great unwashed masses, for whom “the truth” becomes tainted and less likely to be taken in when the speaker is someone like Idi Amin, who has been totally discredited in the eyes of the world.
 
Not being a great intellect like Malcolm X myself, I tend to discredit anything said by the likes of Mr. Amin.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:50 utc | 828

You totally missed the point of Malcolm X’s statement.
Posted by: Jane | Mar 15 2026 22:46 utc | 867
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P.S. Be advised that I am not going to do any go-rounds with you on this. Enjoy talking to yourself.
 

Posted by: Jane | Mar 15 2026 22:51 utc | 829

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 22:46 utc | 869
Below the belt, and beneath you.
I don’t always agree with George the Zeroth, but he’s a reasonable poster.
This is the first time I’ve seen him declare his religion (in response to being labelled a goy), unlike yourself who talks about it all the time.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 15 2026 22:52 utc | 830

I’m a Jew
I’m a Jew
I’m a Jew
I’m a Jew
I’m a Jew
 Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:44 utc | 866
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 Every.
Single.
Time.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 22:46 utc | 869
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So? What’s that supposed to mean?
 
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on, you bigoted piece of shit!

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 22:52 utc | 831

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 15 2026 22:52 utc | 872
 
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That is not beneath me. I call balls and strikes.
 
It’s not about religion. It’s about culture. George identifies with being from a culture of criminals (to quote Idi Amin).

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:01 utc | 832

Breaking: Reports of an intense Iranian missile attack on Tel Aviv!  According to reports, several senior Israeli commanders were killed, and flames have risen in different parts of the city.  The world’s eyes are now fixed on the Middle East — this event could change the history of the region. 

https://x.com/QBC_QBC/status/2033290934977458657

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 15 2026 23:01 utc | 833

@818
 
Bombing is not the all in all.
 
N Korea did not lose; that war is in armistice!
 
The other bombing example the losers were looking at a few million infantry boots, especially Japan where half of it would have been Stalin’s estate.
 
Iran is big a lot of space, a lot of sand bags etc……

Posted by: paddy | Mar 15 2026 23:03 utc | 834

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:01 utc | 874
…and you identify with being from a culture of headchoppers.
See how bigotry works?

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 15 2026 23:05 utc | 835

Posted by: Jane | Mar 15 2026 22:24 utc | 846 ###### States are abstractions. Shadow puppets on the cave wall. There is no freedom inside Plato’s Cave for those who won’t risk testing the entrance.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 22:30 utc | 849
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Shut up, Bloviator.
The question was directed to the poster, Snake.

Posted by: Jane | Mar 15 2026 23:06 utc | 836

It’s not about religion. It’s about culture. George identifies with being from a culture of criminals (to quote Idi Amin).
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:01 utc | 874
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Wrong.
 
I “identify” with no such thing.
 
I just happen to have been born into a Jewish family, something I had no choice in.
 
And I feel no compulsion to renounce that fact.
Apparently the only thing that would satisfy a fucking bigot like yourself would be for me to prostrate myself before you, renounce Judaism forever (I never practiced it in the first place!) and convert to Islam.
 
I totally, utterly and unconditionally reject all this anti-“Jew” bullshit that permeates the core of this site and poisons it.
 
Not because “anti-Semitism”, which as we all know has been degraded and weaponized against anyonw who dares to criticize Israel or Zionism.
 
Tell us, do you have the same hatred, the same disdain for other Jews like Max Blumenthal? Aaron Mate? The many hundreds of others who forthrightly condemn the Gaza genocide and the US/Israel war on Iran?
 
Really?
 
It’s just pure bigotry and narrow-mindedness on your part.
 
Fuck you!

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 23:07 utc | 837

This place is a fucking cesspool.
 
One notch above Qanon.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 23:08 utc | 838

George
 
“…and the horse……” is one of my favorite quotes when I was 13!

Posted by: paddy | Mar 15 2026 23:08 utc | 839

🚨⚡️ BREAKING:
 
Iran’s Khatam al-Anbiya HQ issues first warning:
 
“The presence of the U.S. aircraft carrier USS Gerald R. Ford in the Red Sea is a direct threat, and logistics hubs supporting it are legitimate targets.”
 
-: This comes after Chinese satellites detected the carrier moving toward the Saudi Al-Wajh area 🇸🇦.

 
2 pictures . 
https://x.com/mog_russEN/status/2033318488451002580

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:08 utc | 840

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 15 2026 23:05 utc | 877
 
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Tit-for-tat is a child’s game.
 
Feel better now, baby?  😂😂😂

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:10 utc | 841

@838: Dear Cato,  It seems you understand what I wrote?  The rest of your post is not what I said. North Korea rebuilt.  Is that what you propose for other victims of U.S. Imperialism?  As you know–or at least I should think?– North Korea received massive aid from the USSR and China through the Sino-Soviet split.  Chinese military forces were there until the late 1950s.  Who is going to do that for Iran?  I know, I know, “they won’t need it” amirite?
Kindly respond to what I wrote, not what I did not.

Posted by: Dave | Mar 15 2026 23:10 utc | 842

Posted by: Jane | Mar 15 2026 23:06 utc | 878
 
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Oddly, but not surprisingly, you haven’t figured out how public forums work.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:11 utc | 843

Absolute insanity. US soldiers in the field are filing legal complaints stating their commanders believe Trump was anointed by Jesus to light a signal fire in Iran and trigger Armageddon. This is a religious war driven by apocalyptic cultists.

 
1-minute 34-second interview video . 
https://x.com/FurkanGozukara/status/2033302641074127323

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:13 utc | 844

Absolute insanity. US soldiers in the field are filing legal complaints stating their commanders believe Trump was anointed by Jesus to light a signal fire in Iran and trigger Armageddon. This is a religious war driven by apocalyptic cultists.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:13 utc | 886
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So as a soi-disant Muslim yourself, how far are you from believing that kind of eschatological horseshit, eh?

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 23:16 utc | 845

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:08 utc | 882
 
Oh my oh my… Ford is  already on extremely extended duty by now, tired, worn out, Chinese are tracking it in real time.
 
Don’t think Iran will attempt to attack it directly but they might identify where US navy stockpiles its munitions for that carrier group and hit them instead. That will send it packing real quick.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 15 2026 23:16 utc | 846

Footage from the impact site showing the destruction caused by a single Iranian ballistic missile strike, with the structure above a reinforced shelter collapsed and debris spread across the surrounding area.

 
47-second video . 
https://x.com/iwasnevrhere_/status/2033297106576810225

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:16 utc | 847

🇮🇷🇺🇸🇮🇱 The residents of Tehran are once again filling the streets and squares in large numbers tonight, refusing to take shelter.
 
The enemy is powerless against a people who are not afraid of death🌹🇮🇷

 
52-second video . 
https://x.com/WagnerAmb1W9/status/2033291164242059401

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:18 utc | 848

George identifies with being from a culture of criminals (to quote Idi Amin).
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:01 utc | 874
 
Tit-for-tat is a child’s game.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:10 utc | 883

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 15 2026 23:19 utc | 849

Salaam – UWdude@794-Qatar may have shut down some production due to feed stock,highly stock warehouses etc but certainly not for gas!

Posted by: 4q8 | Mar 15 2026 23:20 utc | 850

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 15 2026 23:16 utc | 888
 
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The Iranians are very confident and have been trolling and playing mind games for a few days now.
 
Still want to see a carrier sunk. That would fit right into my memory bank next to watching the Berlin Wall come down on TV in real-time back in the 80s.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:20 utc | 851

 Greasy Pete Melt Down
 

 Things must be going even worse than they seem. They must be hiding the worst stuff that has happened, and will hide it as long as they can. This war is a mortal blow to the empire. Greasy Pete’s days are numbered.

 

https://x.com/imetatronink/status/2033315280462733639

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 15 2026 23:24 utc | 852

The people who sanctioned Iran for decades are appalled that Iran has sanctioned them back
 
In response to Rishi Sunak posting this,
 
“Iran is attempting to put a dagger to the throat of the world economy. We in Britain must remember what the Romans taught us: if you want peace, prepare for war.”
 
https://x.com/tiberiusfiles/status/2033181959476981939
 
The White Empire really doesn’t like it when the natives revolt.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:27 utc | 853

Oddly, but not surprisingly, you haven’t figured out how public forums work.
 
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:11 utc | 885

Tell us more, please. I was under the impression that you are carrying previous experience on whatever forum here, with considerable disregard about how people manage things around here – it’s a place with tradition – in the process stepping on a lot of toes and creating enmity. Take it as a hint if you don’t want to explain. 
 
You see, LD, I’m on the spectrum myself. But it is possible to more or less align with the sensibilities of those around you. Starting to realize this is something you can work on is a good first step. Establish a robust communication, and begin to learn to trust your intuition from there. Learn to spot clues. It’s not just about embracing insecurity, the intuition thing really works. 

Posted by: persiflo | Mar 15 2026 23:27 utc | 854

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 23:16 utc | 887
 
Hey George Z
There is evidence a plenty of some US commanders preaching that old testament crap.  it is indeed a major concern for the USA. Recall that Vice President pence believed that appalling crud. The question that MUST be asked in just how deep the penetration of the insane has gone within the USA and its military.
 
Put it this way, no matter how bad anyone may feel the Iranians and the Mullahs are, this sort of US based idiocy is FAR, FAR, FAR worce and much more dangerous.
Perhaps rather than attacking other nations for their beliefs the USA might clean up its own house. 

Posted by: watcher | Mar 15 2026 23:29 utc | 855

While all of this is going on, there are reports that the PLA is holding naval exercises outside of Taiwan. Massive exercises.
 
I still maintain they won’t invade Taiwan. That’s not the Chinese way. Taiwan will return to China bloodlessly. China doesn’t want a province that it had to subjugate and conquer.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:32 utc | 856

This is a war of attrition and the Islamic Republic of Iran (IRI) is winning.!

Posted by: pepe | Mar 15 2026 23:34 utc | 857

Seems to me there are a host of allegations that need to be cleared up:
 

  1. is Nuttyahoo dead or alive
  2. Is young Kamenei dead or alive or injured
  3. Did a US carrier get damaged
  4. Did an escort of a carrier get damages or even sunk
  5. Is there mutiny aboard the Ford
  6. Is the USA really assisting its citizens to leave Israel

These are for starters

Posted by: watcher | Mar 15 2026 23:35 utc | 858

Posted by: persiflo | Mar 15 2026 23:27 utc | 896
 
######
 
When people post things publicly, anyone can (and will) reply. Everything posted publicly lives forever.
 
So don’t post if you don’t want feedback or to be immortalized. Don’t post a single word if you’re worried about privacy; nothing online is private, even “private messages”.
 
If one wants to have a private (non-public, everything is hoovered up by security agencies) conversation, they need to join a community on Discord or any of numerous social networks that technologically support that stuff.
 
MoA has a traditional blog design and doesn’t have social networking features.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:38 utc | 859

When people post things publicly, anyone can (and will) reply.

 
I challenge you to think about the “should”.

Posted by: persiflo | Mar 15 2026 23:41 utc | 860

Posted by: persiflo | Mar 15 2026 23:27 utc | 896
You know she’s pricked because she’s posting like the pink bunny trying to change the subject.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 15 2026 23:41 utc | 861

Posted by: Jane | Mar 15 2026 23:06 utc | 878 ##### Oddly, but not surprisingly, you haven’t figured out how public forums work.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:11 utc | 885
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Another classic bloviation example.
Most people here understand and can tell the difference between genuine participation in a forum and pure bloviation–opening one’s trap despite having nothing to contribute.

Posted by: Jane | Mar 15 2026 23:45 utc | 862

Posted by: persiflo | Mar 15 2026 23:41 utc | 902
 
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Why?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:47 utc | 863

A fictional tribute to LoveDonbass
 
LoveDonbass: “Amin was a total visionary for kicking those Israelis out. They were all just common criminals, parasites sucking Uganda dry. It’s basic history, if you’d actually bother to read a book for once instead of just staring at the ceiling.”
 
 
Person B: “Actually, the historical data shows the opposite. Israeli firms were building roads and hospitals on credit because Amin had already emptied the national treasury for his military. He didn’t expel ‘criminals’; he expelled his creditors because he was broke and couldn’t pay his bills.”
 
 
LoveDonbass: “Oh, look at you with your ‘data’ and your ‘bills.’ You probably believe the Earth is round and that gravity is real, too. You’ve totally swallowed the Western propaganda whole. Amin said they were untrustworthy, and he was the President, so he obviously knew better than some nerd with a calculator. Your tiny brain just prefers spreadsheets over actual alpha leadership. You’re just too dense to get it.”
 
 
Person B: “A dictator calling someone a criminal doesn’t make it a fact. He literally switched sides because Gaddafi offered him $30 million in cash to dump Israel. It wasn’t ‘leadership’; it was a desperate, corrupt cash grab.”
 
 
LoveDonbass: “Blah, blah, blah. You sound like a broken radio. Who cares about money? It’s about vibes and energy. Amin had the energy. While you’re crying over ‘facts,’ real men are making history. You probably think eating vegetables makes you smart, too. It’s honestly pathetic how you cling to these boring stories instead of seeing the big picture of global freedom. You’re just a hater.”
 
 
Person B: “This has nothing to do with ‘vibes.’ It’s about my identity and the historical reality. I am Jewish, and the rhetoric Amin used to turn people into scapegoats is exactly what you are repeating right now. He branded an entire group as criminal just to hide his own failures.”
 
 
LoveDonbass: “Aha! I knew it! You’re only saying that because you probably like homework and wearing socks with sandals! It’s like, if you’re part of that group, then you’re just biased against the super cool vibes of giant statues and loud music. It’s not even an argument, it’s just like, the rules of the universe or something. You’re just being a total party pooper because you can’t handle how awesome history is when you ignore the boring parts.”
 
 
Person B: “That is a complete dismissal of historical suffering and a very dangerous way to look at reality.”
 
 
LoveDonbass: “Whatever, you’re just jealous because my brain is like a giant rocket ship and yours is a tiny tricycle. You probably think the moon is made of cheese, but like, the smelly kind. I’m winning because I’m louder. Let’s talk about how clouds are actually giant marshmallows instead, or are you too ‘smart’ for that too?”

Posted by: BlindSpot | Mar 15 2026 23:52 utc | 864

I think the rumors about Netanyahu are true. Rest in piss you scumbag.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 15 2026 23:55 utc | 865

Posted by: BlindSpot | Mar 15 2026 23:52 utc | 906
h/t The Young Ones

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 15 2026 23:57 utc | 866

Trump over the last 24 hours
 
“Hey China can you help us open the straits of Hormuz to overthrow the Iranian regime?”
 
******
 
“Hey NATO, you better help us in our war against Iran or you’ll be very sorry”

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 23:58 utc | 867

Trump drops MASSIVE 401-word post on Iran

 
Screenshot of Truth Social post . 
https://x.com/RT_com/status/2033331951789330888
 
Funny to see him accuse Iran of being the masters of media manipulation.
 
Every accusation is a confession.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 16 2026 0:02 utc | 868

Crop Rotation in the 14th Century

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 16 2026 0:03 utc | 869

Posted by: snake | Mar 15 2026 15:53 utc | 672===========Posted by: Jane | Mar 15 2026 22:24 utc | 846Absent nation-states, how are people actually supposed to manifest self-determination? Short answer, please.
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<=I have previously outlined two governments are needed for each nation state.  Traditional top down government is suppose to be an expression of a constitution?  Problem is there is nothing to prevent those appointed to operate top-down government from circumventing the constitution or from using their positions for personal, special interest or minority interest purposes? Needed is a government that governs those who govern.. 
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So a bottom-up auditor government is needed to keep those in top-down Government in line and on track and to negotiate with top down government when changes in the constitution need be made.  Bottom-up  government audits seeking top-down corruption and violations of constitution and human rights. Top-down makes the laws, collects data and taxes and develops and executes programs according to constitutionally authorized functions.  
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for example, allowing monopoly power, economic cartels in the form of too big to fail or narrative controlled media to develop is a violation of human rights. Allowing media to be used for mind control or allowing government officials to conduct their affairs in secret are examples of corruption of democracy and redirection of government purpose. 
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Citizens have no recourse to fix or change things when there is no audit government. Even the founders of the constitution realized all interest (congressional, judicial and executive) needed to be pitted against each other in order to keep the system rational and the members representing these interest honest and focused on their constitutional tasks.
 

Posted by: snake | Mar 16 2026 0:07 utc | 870

@George Wendell,The simple fact that BOM wiped out data prior to 1911 means its conclusions lack perspective. In addition, much which comes out of modern science in all its forms is sourced in MODELLING, the poorest form of science if indeed it can be called science at all. This applies to Meteorology in regard to its conclusions about climate changes globally and situationally, but particularly globally.In short the scientific system of enquiry sold its soul to Government and big business long ago and is not a reliable source for anything. We see this clearly in the medical industry and in the climate change industry. Any reading of history in Australia from 1788 onwards makes it very clear that drought, bushfires and floods are and were a norm. It is now just turned to propaganda pap to push the climate change industry and its profit and power making dimensions.Call that a personal opinion if you wish but I would make the point some of the greatest discoveries in archaeology and in science have been made by amateurs who had minds open and flexible enough to explore, question and apply common sense. 

Posted by: rosross | Mar 16 2026 0:12 utc | 871

@ 882 Re Carrier moving toward the Saudi Al-Wajh 
Big Problem with the USS Ford.
Their toilets and laundry are out of order.  The ship has to make frequent port calls for crew potty breaks, and a quick stop at the shore side coin op laundromat.

Posted by: golddigger | Mar 16 2026 0:15 utc | 872

Dave 818 – the Strategic Bombing Study undertaken by the DOW after WWII debunked the idea the 8th AAF proved to be the deciding factor in WWII.  The Germans were able to diversify their industrial base rather well, and were able to continue with their rail system until the spring of ’45, in fact delivered Tiger Panzer VI tanks well into March of that year. Their fuel distribution system was not heavily impacted until spring ’45. The 8th AAF suffered extreme casualties in the bombing effort, with over 45,000 personnel lost.  The most losses of any American field army in WWII.
North Korean lines were hit hard by US air interdiction, but the NK’s and PFA were able to pull off a major counteroffensive in late 1950.  USAF B29’s suffered huge losses in the effort.  NK and PLA forces were resupplied despite being under constant air harassment.
North Vietnam was never ‘carpet bombed’ by the USAF and the USN, tactical targets were hit repeatedly, and the B52s were sent north to attack key points in the Christmas strikes by RMN and suffered large scale losses too.  They were also used in South Vietnam and Laos to attempt to interdict the Ho Chi Minh trail, and they dropped more ordinance on the trail that was dropped in WWII to slight effect.  We had air superiority, but it did not impact the eventual outcome.
Despite complete and total air superiority in the Afghan War, the effort was lost on the ground.
Only ground forces dictate the outcome, air superiority is important, but does not dictate outcomes, it only supports the outcome.

Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 16 2026 0:17 utc | 873

The IRGC has just published precision-mapped targeting warnings for residential and commercial districts in both Doha and Dubai. The message translated is surgical and deliberate:
 
“Due to the presence of US military officers and soldiers in these areas, they may be subjected to attack in the coming hours. Please evacuate immediately.”
 
Dubai Marina. Arabian Ranches. Lusail City. Al Waab. Ain Khaled. These aren’t airbases. These aren’t official military installations. These are where three million foreign nationals live, work, and sleep. And the reason US and Israeli military personnel are in these neighbourhoods rather than on their bases is the story nobody in Washington wants to tell. The bases have been hit so repeatedly — Fifth Fleet Bahrain, Al-Udeid, Al-Dhafra, Sheikh Isa that American and Israeli officers evacuated to civilian residential areas for their own protection due to the impotence of American Israeli air defence. The most expensive military on earth is sheltering in apartment blocks in Dubai Marina because it cannot guarantee the safety of its own compounds.
 
Washington on orders from Israel started this war without asking the Gulf monarchies. It launched from their soil, used their airspace, stored weapons in their ports — and left them holding the consequences.
 
The Bahrain refinery is burning. Fujairah is on fire. Dubai airport briefly closed. And now the IRGC is publishing satellite maps of residential streets with red boxes around them. For the Gulf Monarchies this is the cost of your masters protection racket. You might want to rethink the protection part. You signed up for this, was it worth it?
 
https://x.com/IslanderWORLD/status/2033305147162386593

Posted by: Allen | Mar 16 2026 0:19 utc | 874

The IDF has near complete air superiority and is badly losing this war……………….missiles now dictate outcomes not aircraft…..its a new age.

Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 16 2026 0:22 utc | 875

Sbego@814:
 
“With friends like that…”
 
Just listened to a geopolitical discussion reminding me that powers don’t have friends but interests which can change. Perhaps you will find it interesting as well..
 
The Chinese & Russian Factor in the US/Israeli Strategy For Iran
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR4j6o379tc
 
“iGlobenews Editor-in-Chief, Diana Moutner Markoff, discusses current events and world politics with Prof Susanne Weigelin-Schwiedrzik. How has and will the US/Israeli war on Iran influence China, Russia, US relations? Who will gain? Who will lose? What will the new world order look like…?
 
“Donald Trump is very skillful in having all these projects that impose on the world the US agenda. And this is what he does – with Venezuela, with Iran, and this is what he’s maybe going to do with Cuba and all his various projects. 
 
And if he says, ‘I’m not so interested in Ukraine,’ well he also imposes his agenda on us. So by doing this he actually creates an image of the US as if the US were still the one and only dominating power of the world.
 
And most people don’t know he gives a call to Mr Putin and he gives a call to Mr Xi. Because Mr Trump knows that he cannot rule the world without China and Russia. At his particular moment he is not in a position to impose his agenda on China and Russia, but he is strong enough with all these positions and projects to create a ‘win-win’ situation between the US and Russia, and between the US and China. So, very interestingly, the three major powers can actually agree on ending this war whenever Mr Trump wants to end it.
 
However, he does not understand that ‘minor actors’ in this constellation  have a very important role to play…So how will Mr Donald Trump end this war in Iran if neither Israel nor Iran wants to end the war? Because for Iran to say , ‘ok, we want to end the war’ – that will be used by both Israel and the US as a form of capitulation. And Iran is definitely not telling its people that unfortunately they will have to capitulate.
 
So, for that reason, I think, Iran is not going to say, ‘ok we can end the war’. No, they’re not. For them the victory of the war is their survival. As long as they can survive, they can tell their population every day – ‘we won the war because they wanted our annihilation and this didn’t happen. We are still a sovereign country and our political system still works…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 16 2026 0:27 utc | 876

My comment: I think there is a case to be made for a certain accuracy with the comparison made below. I would add that the logistical problems facing the US/Israeli aggressors are even more problematic than what the US faced in Viet Nam and that the economic leverage that Iran holds is quantum leaps beyond anything Viet Nam/Laos/Cambodia possessed at that time.
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“The escalation trap is a specific kind of strategic suicide: it occurs when a hyper-power, drunk on its own conventional invincibility, picks a fight with a nation that has spent decades weaponizing its own vulnerability. The trap is not that the strong side loses a battle; it is that the strong side wins every battle and still loses the war because it fundamentally misread the enemy’s capacity to inflict pain. The United States, viewing itself as an untouchable god of war, assumed Iran was a paper tiger ready to fold under “maximum pressure.” Instead, Washington walked into a room full of explosives and lit a match, surprised to find that the fire burned both ways.
 
The historical precedent is Vietnam. The U.S. entered that war believing its industrial output and air superiority were decisive factors. It treated the conflict as a math problem where American firepower multiplied by time equaled victory. North Vietnam, however, possessed a resilience that defied American calculus. They did not need to defeat the U.S. military in the field; they only needed to survive long enough for the American public to lose the will to continue. Every escalation by Washington, from bombing campaigns to troop surges, was met not with collapse, but with a hardened resolve that turned American strength into a liability. The U.S. became trapped by its own momentum, unable to stop escalating without admitting defeat, yet unable to escalate enough to break an enemy that viewed survival as victory.
 
Today, the war between the United States and Iran is exposing the same fatal flaw in real-time. The Trump administration, operating on the assumption that Iran’s regime was fragile and desperate to avoid direct confrontation, initiated a campaign of strikes intended to decapitate the leadership and crush nuclear ambitions. The expectation was a quick, surgical display of dominance. The reality has been an (unsurprising) shock to the system. Iran did not fold. Instead, it unleashed a missile and drone arsenal far more sophisticated, numerous, and accurate than U.S. intelligence had predicted. These were not the ragtag weapons of a failing state; they were a coordinated, high-volume barrage that overwhelmed defense systems and struck with precision.
 
The damage has been tangible and severe. U.S. bases across the Middle East, previously considered safe havens, have taken direct hits, resulting in significant casualties and infrastructure destruction that Washington struggled to downplay. Simultaneously, Israel, the U.S.’s primary regional ally, has faced unprecedented bombardment, stretching its Iron Dome to the breaking point and forcing a realization that its own deterrence had been overestimated.
 
Crucially, the threat to close the Strait of Hormuz looms not as a bluff, but as an imminent lever of global economic strangulation. Iran has made it clear that if pushed to the brink, it will choke the world’s oil supply, turning a regional war into a global depression. This capability adds a layer of complexity that brute force cannot solve. The U.S. can sink ships, but it cannot instantly reopen a choked artery of the global economy without catastrophic cost.
 
The conclusion is not a vague hope for diplomacy, but a grim acknowledgment of a strategic blunder. The escalation trap has snapped shut because the U.S. assumed it could control the intensity of the conflict. It cannot. Iran has demonstrated that it possesses both the will and the way to make the cost of victory prohibitively high. The U.S. is now stuck in a war against an adversary that does not need to win militarily to succeed; it only needs to ensure that the price of continuing becomes too high for Washington to bear. The “all-powerful” nation finds itself bleeding from bases it thought were secure, facing an enemy it thought was broken, and realizing too late that some traps are designed specifically for those who think they are too strong to be caught.”
 
https://x.com/IslanderWORLD/status/2033300366834467108

Posted by: Allen | Mar 16 2026 0:27 utc | 877

LoveDonbass | Mar 15 2026 15:50 utc | 668
*** God doesn’t promise us happiness or justice. We’re to struggle for that, which is the entire point of life. Jihad. To struggle. Don’t think that God is like a human; he is not. We are the creation, and he is the creator. Why would an entity that is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent be like a human? Just basic logic makes that proposition seem incredibly stupid, IMO.***
 
 
So how do you square that up with reckoning that evcerything is pre-destined?
 
If it indeed was, then to devise such a situation its alleged “creator” would have to be a sadistic control-freak.
(suspiciously like the deity of the Talmud and its Kabbalistic/Zionist adherents)
 

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 16 2026 0:30 utc | 878

The IDF has near complete air superiority and is badly losing this war……………….missiles now dictate outcomes not aircraft…..its a new age.
Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 16 2026 0:22 utc | 917

This is still bad news.  How are they unable to down israeli/american planes?  Russian pilots live in fear of being shot down by ukraine’s missiles.

Posted by: bored | Mar 16 2026 0:31 utc | 879

24 cc--The plain fact is China doesn’t have the power projection to win a war against the US in the Middle East. …
If China joins the war in Iran, it will be stepping into a bear trap.”
That’s from Oliver Hua:
 
Not asking for China to ‘join the war.’
‘As of early 2026, trade between China and Israel is substantial, with China being one of Israel’s top trading partners, generally totaling over $15–20 billion annually. In 2024, Chinese exports to Israel.  ‘     AI
 
 
If China would stop this trade people would change their view.

Posted by: Lavieja | Mar 16 2026 0:36 utc | 880

Here’s WTI in real time
 
https://ca.investing.com/commodities/crude-oil

Posted by: arby | Mar 16 2026 0:36 utc | 881

So, for that reason, I think, Iran is not going to say, ‘ok we can end the war’. No, they’re not. For them the victory of the war is their survival. As long as they can survive, they can tell their population every day – ‘we won the war because they wanted our annihilation and this didn’t happen. We are still a sovereign country and our political system still works
 
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 16 2026 0:27 utc | 918

 
Nice to see — I guess — that the offspring of Austrian nobility still have a place in the world besides Thomas Bernhard novels. (BTW it’s Mautner Markhof.) But whether it was she or the other hyphen who uttered the aforementioned, it seems clear that Iran is fighting for more than survival: Iran wants the USA gone from that part of the world, as well as the end of the Zionist occupation of Palestine.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 16 2026 0:38 utc | 882

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 23:16 utc | 887
 There is evidence a plenty of some US commanders preaching that old testament crap.  it is indeed a major concern for the USA. Recall that Vice President pence believed that appalling crud. The question that MUST be asked in just how deep the penetration of the insane has gone within the USA and its military.
Posted by: watcher | Mar 15 2026 23:29 utc | 897
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Don’t misunderstand me: I have no problem believing the problem with those eschatological “end times” US commanders is actually much worse than we’re getting from the complaints of their underlings.
 
I was just pointing out the absurdity of a self-described Muslim criticizing those commanders.
Pot kettle black, dontcha know.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 16 2026 0:40 utc | 883

According to Galloway, Grok and other AI analysis software has said that Bibi’s little coffee shop photo-op was 95-97% likely to be fake. 
 
At current timestamp, recorded 2hrs ago. 
 
https://youtu.be/glIoisV0Fq8?t=379

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 16 2026 0:41 utc | 884

malenkov@924:
 
I agree. Am a fan Bernhard’s work as well. 

Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 16 2026 0:44 utc | 885

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 16 2026 0:30 utc | 920
 
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I had a very interesting conversation here recently about the notion that time is flat, not linear. It’s about who is observing time. God can see it all. Every moment, every precipitating event, every outcome, God sees them as though they all happen at once (and hence, flat). We, not having a “God’s eye view,” perceive time differently.
 
IMO, as long as we impute human-like feelings and motivations to God, none of it will make sense.
 
The Talmud is not Revelation; it was written by Rabbis for particular motivations.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 16 2026 0:44 utc | 886

I’m a JewI’m a JewI’m a JewI’m a JewI’m a Jew Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 15 2026 Nobody gives a stuff what your religion is. They just care if you are one of the few followers of Judaism with ethics or one of the majority devoid of ethics, morality or civilized principles.

Posted by: rosross | Mar 16 2026 0:45 utc | 887

This is still bad news.  How are they unable to down israeli/american planes?  Russian pilots live in fear of being shot down by ukraine’s missiles.
Posted by: bored | Mar 16 2026 0:31 utc 
 
 
 
Why waste missiles on a plane when you can put them to better use demolishing Israel and US military facilities?

Posted by: rosross | Mar 16 2026 0:47 utc | 888

@Allen | Mar 16 2026 0:27 utc | 919
 
Ta. Useful. 

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 16 2026 0:49 utc | 889

NEW: Trump accuses legacy media of treason over Iran war coverage.

 
https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/2033342586455286035
 
 

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 16 2026 0:50 utc | 890

UWDude | Mar 15 2026 17:40 utc | 736
***… ever see anyone hold a coffee cup with their pinky underneath?  Look how awkward his hand is holding that cup.  Try it with a cup of your own.  Just try it. …..
 
If what’s in a small paper/plastic cup is not too hot, I sometimes do that.
 

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 16 2026 0:52 utc | 891

bored | Mar 16 2026 0:31 utc 
 
No fighter pilot ever thinks about being shot down!  If one had such fear he would have washed out in the first phase fail to fly a crop duster.
 
Why should Iran shoot at US and IDF planes outside its borders?.

Posted by: paddy | Mar 16 2026 0:52 utc | 892

President Trump told FT that he expects China to help reopen the Strait of Hormuz ahead of his planned trip to Beijing later this month for a summit with Xi Jinping and said he may delay the meeting if China does not assist.
 
I think China should help too because China gets 90 per cent of its oil from the Straits.
 
Waiting until the summit would be too late. We’d like to know before that. It’s [two weeks is] a long time.
 
We may delay.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 16 2026 0:54 utc | 893

Nobody gives a stuff what your religion is.

Posted by: rosross | Mar 16 2026 0:45 utc | 929
Well, nobody except “LoveDonbass”, evidently.
 

They just care if you are one of the few followers of Judaism with ethics or one of the majority devoid of ethics, morality or civilized principles.

 
I dispute that statement.
 
I can’t prove it, but I’m pretty sure that it’s not a majority of Jews who are “devoid of ethics, morality or civilized principles”, at least outside of Israel. Probably not even a plurality.
 
That’s like the demented belief, which manifested itself in Islamophobia (remember that? that was a thing) that all Muslims are head-chopping terrorists. See how that works?
 
The one mis-belief is just as bigoted as the other one.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Mar 16 2026 0:55 utc | 894

@932
 
Trump is attacking the first amendment bc the alt media is not parroting his propaganda.

Posted by: paddy | Mar 16 2026 0:59 utc | 895

Direct Iranian impact in Be’er Sheva, with explosions heard across southern occupied Palestine.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 16 2026 1:00 utc | 896

https://x.com/sino_market/status/2033345388242162051?s=46
 
Hormuz Ship Traffic Falls to Zero for First Time Since War Began
 
Ship traffic through the Strait of Hormuz fell to zero on Saturday for the first time since the war began on Feb. 28, according to Windward data, with no vessel AIS signals confirming any transit. The strait, which normally carries about one-fifth of global oil and gas, typically sees around 77 daily crossings. During the war’s second week, average crossings had already dropped sharply to 2.7 ships.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 16 2026 1:02 utc | 897

Dubai airport fuel tanks said targeted…don’t know but flights are currently circling in hold pattern.

Posted by: Ornot | Mar 16 2026 1:02 utc | 898

This is still bad news.  How are they unable to down israeli/american planes?  Russian pilots live in fear of being shot down by ukraine’s missiles.
Posted by: bored | Mar 16 2026 0:31 utc | 921
 
they have air superiority over lebanon. and are getting their assess handed to them in their home turf by lebanese militia. 

Posted by: jinkydink | Mar 16 2026 1:04 utc | 899

Posted by: paddy | Mar 16 2026 0:59 utc | 937
 
######
 
From the time he first ran, he attacked the media. It was cute at first, but has now morphed into something insane.
 
Clearly, he’s becoming desperate. Market open may be a bloodbath.
 
He’s made a mess that is beyond his ability to manage…

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 16 2026 1:06 utc | 900