Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
March 3, 2026
War On Iran – Regional Participation – U.S. Blames Israel

As the war on Iran continues it is getting even more difficult to assess the operational losses and the damage caused by either side. All parties, Iran, Israel, the U.S. and various Gulf countries, practice information warfare and censorship. They exaggerate their successes and do not admit their losses.

It makes little sense then to make any statements about the progress of the war as it unfolds on the ground. We will have to  wait and look for irrefutable evidence before guessing the outcome.

A month ago the Supreme Leader of Iran Ali Khamenei had warned that any attack on Iran would develop into a regional war. He could have added that it would have global consequences.

Khamenei’s prediction has -to some extend-  come true. Iran has attacked various U.S. bases in western Gulf countries. The U.S. Embassy in Riyadh was hit. Hizbullah in Lebanon has launched drones against a U.S./British base in Cyprus. Israel is invading Lebanon and the West Bank. Iraqi militia have launched attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq and Iraqi Kurdistan. Locals have attacked U.S. consulates in Pakistan.

But the Gulf countries themselves have not yet entered the war. They have spent their air defense after defending against missile and drone attacks on U.S. bases.  They are now low on ammunition and the U.S. is in no position to back their needs.

Several small hits have been reported against oil infrastructure in Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Iran has denied to have attacked those sites. It is possible that Israel or the U.S. is launching these strikes to incite the Gulf states to more actively join their attack on Iran. I doubt that they are stupid enough to do so.

The Strait of Hormuz is closed. Qatar has stopped its production of Liquefied Petroleum Gas. Iraq is throttling its oil production as its storage capacity in Basra is full as no tankers arrive to load its products. All together some 20% of the daily global oil and gas production has been cut off or is endangered. Global oil and gas prices have already increased dramatically and are likely to rise further. Gas stocks in Europe are low as are oil reserves in India. A long war may well threaten the economic and social well being in those regions.

In its usual amateurish ways the Trump administration is trying to blame Israel (vid) for the start of the war:

Rubio: There was absolutely an imminent threat and it was that we knew that if Iran was attacked and we believe that they would be attacked, that they would immediately come after us and we were not going to sit there and absorb a blow

So the U.S. had to ‘pre-emptivly’ attack Iran because Israel was going to attack Iran?

The New York Times is trying to support that meme with the opening line of its tick-tock report about the start of the war  placing the blame (archived) on the U.S. proxy:

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel walked into the Oval Office on the morning of Feb. 11, determined to keep the American president on the path to war. …

But who ordered two aircraft carrier and some 250 U.S. attack planes to the Middle East? Who had urgently wished for Israel to attack Iran to have an excuse to join the fight?

Just a week ago Politico reported:

Senior advisers to President Donald Trump would prefer Israel strike Iran before the United States launches an assault on the country, according to two people familiar with ongoing discussions.

These Trump administration officials are privately arguing that an Israeli attack would trigger Iran to retaliate, helping muster support from American voters for a U.S. strike.

The calculus is a political one — that more Americans would stomach a war with Iran if the United States or an ally were attacked first.

It is easy to blame Israel for this war but all the means to wage it, and the decision to launch it, were coming from the White House. The war was not started and is not fought for Israel but to advance the global position of the United States.

Rubio and Trump just want to cover their asses by misdirecting the anger of their MAGA follower over the war towards Israel. It is doubtful that any of them will swallow that nonsense.

It is the U.S. which wants to ‘regime change’ Iran. The chance to do that by air-power is zero. Their is also no proxy force, internally or externally, that would be willing to fight a ground war within Iran. Thus the U.S. campaign is destined become a failure.

Comments

Posted by: ostro | Mar 4 2026 8:35 utc | 802
 
Yes. Correction. They aren’t all wearing small hats and charging upwards of 15% usurious interest. THAT other than the fact they sit on a strategic site packed full of oil is the real problem.
 
Anyone see the photos of the Ayatollah’s niece” She was whiter than me and I get a suntan on cloudy days. 
 
This is a war by and f0r “Israel” no matter what b insists. 

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 4 2026 9:11 utc | 801

Posted by: SN1 | Mar 4 2026 9:02 utc | 815
 
real beats fake any day.
 
limitations be damned.
 
There is less real dumb than slop smart now.  So people are gravitating to real over slop, smart/dumb is less important.
 
Our whole professional and wirk lives are full of smart slop, we fucking hate it, and be we I mean humanity.
 
just put your pen to paper and let your thoughts flow.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 9:13 utc | 802

China will put boots on the ground in Iran if the US does it. From Peter Myers postings
 

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Mar 4 2026 9:20 utc | 803

—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 BREAKING: According to preliminary reports, an Israeli fighter jet was shot down over Lavasan, Iran

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/29663

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 4 2026 9:20 utc | 804

I was surprised, in a way, to hear that China is planning to receive Trump very soon in a state visit very soon.  I was even shocked – silly of me.  and they haven’t even canceled it!  See, I guess it  would just be too rude for China to cancel…I guess it’s not too rude, though, for Trump to kidnap other countries’ leaders, kill other countries’ leaders, starve other countries, bomb other countries, dictate to other countries, threaten other counties, steal their oil, bomb their negotiators, etc, etc….none of that is unduly upsetting, as it appears.  quite the opposite.  Apparently the way Trump acts on the world stage must be encouraged with all the trappings accorded to great states and great leaders.  It is all very mafia.  I Trump kick you in the face, kill your friend in front of you and you invite me to dinner.   Ok, I guess that is realism.  Putin and Xi seem determined to prove Trump right when he acts like the right thing for him to do is to treat everyone else in the world like his vassals.

Posted by: Paulun | Mar 4 2026 9:22 utc | 805

China will put boots on the ground in Iran if the US does it. From Peter Myers postings
 
 
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Mar 4 2026 9:20 utc | 819
 
pure fantasy.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 9:25 utc | 806

see the 2:05 video at the first link
 
see the 1;12 video at the second link
 
 
 
https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/2029105905128677385
— GEROMAN — time will tell – 👀 —  @GeromanAT 
 
Striking footages of the moments Iranian missiles and drones hit U.S. bases and Israeli regime positions over the past three days. 
Islamic World Update TG
 
———-
 
https://x.com/RepJasonCrow/status/2028923636909023623
Rep. Jason Crow @RepJasonCrow
 
Trump is lying. 
 
I serve on the Intel & Armed Services Committees. 
 
There’s no intelligence that Iran posed an imminent threat to the U.S. or the American people.
 
——————–
 
https://x.com/sahouraxo/status/2028855787985006786
sarah  @sahouraxo 
 
In the last 3 days alone, Israel has killed 787 people in Iran and 397 in Lebanon. 
 
Israel is a terror against humanity.
 

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 4 2026 9:27 utc | 807

Israel says and idf f-35 shot down a yak-30.  Claiming forst manned aircraft downed by an f-35.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 9:28 utc | 808

Why should they? Let the bugger come, and not as a victor, but as an old delusional fool…
 
Posted by: ostro | Mar 4 2026 9:28 utc | 826
 
no red  carpet, just stairs down to tarmac guarded by pla soldiers in camo bearing rifles with clips.
 
Cant be too safe with someone who kills world leaders while negotiating with them.
 
 

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 9:33 utc | 809

Yak-30 was an experimental Soviet interceptor from the late 1940s.
 
Posted by: ostro | Mar 4 2026 9:33 utc | 827
 
yak 130 training aircraft.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 9:35 utc | 810

—❗️🇮🇷 Ayatollah Ahmad Khatami, Friday Imam of Tehran and senior member of the Assembly of Experts:
 
‘Leadership candidates have been identified and we are close to selecting the new leader.
 
The new leader will be chosen at the earliest opportunity, but the current situation is wartime so we are taking all precautions.’

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/29664
 

This confirms that, contrary to some reports, the Supreme Leader has not yet been elected, let alone published.

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/29665
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 4 2026 9:36 utc | 811

 Putin and Xi seem determined to prove Trump right when he acts like the right thing for him to do is to treat everyone else in the world like his vassals.
 
Posted by: Paulun | Mar 4 2026 9:22 utc | 821
 
message!

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 9:41 utc | 812

Trump had Raytheon and Lockheed CEOs at his office, demanding to build more interceptors and Tomahawks. Reportedly a $50 billion emergency budget is allocated.
 
US is also moving THAAD, Patriot and Reaper drones from places like South Korea and Japan to Israel. 
 
So Iran is now also de-militarizing the US in the Pacific. No doubt China sees the value helping Iran do this.
 
https://x.com/propandco/status/2029012389538959597

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 9:43 utc | 813

@Norwegian | Mar 4 2026 9:20 utc | 820
 

—❗️🇮🇷/🇺🇸/🇮🇱 BREAKING: Yedioth Ahronoth claims it was an American jet that was downed, not Israeli

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/29666
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 4 2026 9:44 utc | 814

—❗️🇮🇷/🇸🇦 BREAKING: Impacts at the ARAMCO facility in Ras Tannoura, Saudi Arabia

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/29667
 
Iranian officials (and Professor Marandi) have repeatedly said that attacks on ARAMCO and Ras Tannoura is not from Iran. This is very likely a false flag.
 

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 4 2026 9:46 utc | 815

no red  carpet
 
Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 9:33 utc | 828
 

 
A red carpet that is challengingly narrow for Trump to navigate would be funny.  Xi will surely treat Trump to a beautiful piece of chocolate cake.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 4 2026 9:47 utc | 816

“In other words, the Americans are running!”
> Posted by: ostro | Mar 4 2026 8:50 utc | 812
I wish I could quote W Bush for once: You can run, but you cannot hide.
 

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Mar 4 2026 9:48 utc | 817

—❗️🇮🇱/🇦🇿/🇮🇷 BREAKING: Initialreports of an Iranian attack on Israeli assets inside Azerbaijan; unconfirmed for now

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/29668

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 4 2026 9:48 utc | 818

@UWDude | Mar 4 2026 9:25 utc | 822
Peter Myers dares say it and he is quite cautious normally
“If Trump puts boots on the ground, China will too
by Peter Gerard Myers, March 4, 2026
China’s involvement in supplying advanced tech, and using this war tobattle-test its weapons, shows that it is not going to allow a USinvasion of Iran, an important ally in the BRICS coalition.
So if Trump puts boots on the ground, China will too. They wouldprobably be ‘volunteers’ as in the Korean war.
If would be foolish for Trump to think that he can repeat the 2003invasion of Iraq, in Iran.
There will be no repeat of the US takeover of Venezuela.”
Peter Myers links to 13 articles mostly on X
I just list the headings
Russian and Chinese advisers and technicians are in Iran helping Iran;If Trump puts boots on the ground, China will too
(1) Russian general says Chinese experts are on the ground in Irantesting their latest weapons on Tel Aviv(2) Russian and Chinese advisers and technicians are in Iran helpingIran; it’s a World War(3) China Says We Can And Will Sell Iran Missiles, including supersonicanti ship missiles(4) Cluster warheads rain down on Tel Aviv; this is new tech; are theyChinese?(5) Chinese media footage of Iranian missiles raining down on Israel(6) Israeli experts astonished by Iranian cluster missiles; are theyChinese?(7) Iran says only Chinese ships will be permitted to transit the Straitof Hormuz(8) Zelensky Warns Iran War Could Starve Ukraine Of US missiles(9) Israeli fighter jets shot down. Chinese jamming device?(10) Videos on Twitter show missiles striking Tel Aviv; mostly censoredby Israel media & MSM(11) Reports claim Dimona nuke plant struck by Iranian ballistic missiles(12) Pakistan destroyed Israeli drone hub at Bagram airbase in Afghanistan(13) If Trump puts boots on the ground, China will too

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Mar 4 2026 9:50 utc | 819

—❗️🇮🇷/🇦🇪 BREAKING: The IRGC Navy targets a vessel off the coast of UAE with an anti-ship missile

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/29669
 
That is the Navy that Trump said doesn’t exist.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 4 2026 9:50 utc | 820

Posted by: Paulun | Mar 4 2026 9:22 utc | 821
 
Being invited to dinner doesn’t mean anything. It is what you will be served for dinner that matters. 

Posted by: Mario | Mar 4 2026 9:57 utc | 821

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Mar 4 2026 9:50 utc | 839
 
advisors, trainers, yes.  combat soldiers, never.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 10:00 utc | 822

Posted by: Paulun | Mar 4 2026 9:22 utc | 821
 
There’s a 99% chance China is helping to compile a list of juicy US/Israel targets for Iran.  US is forced to send assets from the Pacific to replace all these radars, drones, AD systems and interceptors.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 10:00 utc | 823

Teachers aren’t just fighting cheating.They’re fighting atrophy of thinking.

 
And the problem ain’t only the students 

Posted by: Tel | Mar 4 2026 10:01 utc | 824

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Mar 4 2026 9:50 utc | 839
 
advisors, trainers, yes. combat soldiers, never.
 
Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 10:00 utc | 842
 
also, advisors and trainers likely already there, so that doesnt count as putting boots on ground in response to boots on ground.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 10:02 utc | 825

Will Iran shoot down a B-2?

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 10:05 utc | 826

—❗️🇮🇱/🇦🇿/🇮🇷 BREAKING: Initialreports of an Iranian attack on Israeli assets inside Azerbaijan; unconfirmed for now
 
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/29668
 
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 4 2026 9:48 utc | 838
 
reddit was fapping to kurds and azerbaijan dying to save their little egos.
 
BTW Ghislaine Maxwell was a supermod at worldnews on Reddit, user name u/maxwellhill.
 
The whole thing is a place where you can go to see what the narrative of the day is.   and it is where the TACO meme was born.  I watched it happen.
 
 

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 10:05 utc | 827

Tom Q Collins 783
 
That stream of corporate AI is what money Slaves to corporate employment have to endure every day.

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 4 2026 10:08 utc | 828

ALL CAPS promises just ain’t as cappy as they used to be:
source: https://xcancel.com/waymoproblems/status/2029006357190287834
 
The Navy can’t do the escorts.
 
The escorts Trump announced in ALL CAPS hours ago.
 
The escorts that dropped oil 10%. The escorts that the DFC is insuring.
 
The Navy just told industry there’s no availability.
 
No availability. The trillion-dollar Navy.
 
The most powerful naval force in human history.
 
Eleven carriers. Hundreds of ships.
 
No availability to escort tankers through a strait the president just promised to keep open.
 
 
Because the ships are committed.
 
The two carrier strike groups in theater are committed to the air campaign and missile defense.
 
The destroyers are firing interceptors and Tomahawks. The VLS cells are emptying.
 
The ships that aren’t in theater are in other theaters that have already been stripped to feed this one. Patriots pulled from Korea.
 
The Pacific thinned. Every available asset already committed. Nothing left for escorts.
 
And Lloyd’s List reporting it. Lloyd’s List.
 
The maritime industry bible since 1734.
 
The publication that insurance companies and shipping lines read to assess risk. Lloyd’s List telling the shipping industry that the Navy said no.
 
The escorts aren’t coming. The promise is empty. The ALL CAPS was a press release not an operational commitment.
 
 
The DFC insurance that Trump announced. Insuring tankers through a strait the Navy can’t escort them through. Insurance without protection.
 
The policy without the police. The guarantee backed by nothing except a tweet.
Oil dropped 10% on the announcement. The market believed the escorts were coming. The market priced the promise.
 
Lloyd’s List just told the market the promise is empty. When this hits the trading desks the 10% comes back.
 
And then some. Because the market just learned that the president promised something the Navy told industry it can’t deliver.
 
 
The Navy telling industry not the public. Not a press conference. Not a CENTCOM briefing.
 
A quiet communication to industry officials.
 
The truth delivered privately to the people who need it for business decisions while the public gets ALL CAPS.
 
The shipping companies know the escorts aren’t coming.
The insurance companies know.
The trading desks will know by morning.
The public will know last.
No availability.
 
Two words that contain the entire naval situation.
 
The fleet committed. The VLS cells emptying.
 
The escorts impossible. The promise empty. The strait closed.
 
The oil not flowing.
 
The ALL CAPS meeting reality.
Trump promised escorts. The Navy said no availability.
 
Cooper said combat power building. The Navy said no ships available.
 
The dashboard says free flow of energy.
 
The Navy says we can’t.
Believe the Navy. The Navy knows what ships it has.
 
The Navy knows they’re committed.
 
The Navy knows the VLS cells are emptying.
 
The Navy knows the reload problem.
 
The Navy told industry the truth it can’t tell the president.
 
 
No availability. The fleet’s epitaph for the escort plan.
 
Born in ALL CAPS. Died in a quiet message to Lloyd’s List.
 
Lived for hours.
 
The shortest-lived military operation in history.
 
Announced and impossible on the same day.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 4 2026 10:13 utc | 829

Will Iran shoot down a B-2?
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 10:05 

I’ll say my prayer again:
“dear god, pls let this happen because it’d be so fucking funny”

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 4 2026 10:16 utc | 830

Chinese Bank Halts Abu Dhabi Loan as Creditors Cut Mideast Risk
 
March 4, 2026 at 7:57 AM GMT+1
 
Several Chinese financial firms are scaling back exposure to Middle Eastern debt, while regulators are stepping up oversight as the conflict raises concerns over the nation’s extensive lending in the region.
 
One major bank took a rare step in restricting a drawdown on a bilateral loan to one of the Abu Dhabi government’s financial entities, a person familiar with the matter said. A mid-sized lender is seeking buyers to offload portions of syndicated facilities for Middle Eastern borrowers, including sovereign wealth fund ADQ’s $4 billion deal from last year, another person said, asking not to be identified discussing private matters.
 
A Chinese insurer’s asset management arm is reducing holdings of sovereign and state-linked bonds, including those issued by Saudi Aramco, one person said. Meanwhile, traders at a Chinese institution have been instructed to halt dealings in names from the region starting Monday, a separate person said.
 
Regulators are tightening checks in parallel. The Hong Kong Monetary Authority contacted at least two local banks this week to review their exposure to Middle Eastern loans and bonds, people familiar with the matter said. China’s National Financial Regulatory Administration has also directed domestic lenders to examine their financing activities in the region — including debt extended to state entities — and report their findings as early as this week, separate people have said.
 
continues ==> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-04/chinese-bank-halts-abu-dhabi-loan-as-creditors-cut-mideast-risk

 

Posted by: too scents | Mar 4 2026 10:19 utc | 831

Born in ALL CAPS. Died in a quiet message to Lloyd’s List.
 
Lived for hours.
 
The shortest-lived military operation in history.
 
Announced and impossible on the same day.
 
Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 4 2026 10:13 utc | 849
 
 
GOD PLEASE LET IT HAPPEN I NEED TO SEE THOSE CHINESE C-109 MISSILES IN ACTION!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 4 2026 10:23 utc | 832

C-109 MISSILES IN ACTION!
 
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 4 2026 10:23 utc | 852
 

 
Missiles will not be necessary.  Iran has been mining the straight for decades.  
 

Posted by: too scents | Mar 4 2026 10:31 utc | 833

https://t.me/CathedralGR/679 
Not sure if it’s a drone or Israeli fighter jet shot down north of Tehran but something suggest me its a fighter jet. 

Posted by: Spartan Missile | Mar 4 2026 10:35 utc | 834

It would appear that the current situation is that the U.S. Military has reached the point at which it feels the necessity to ignore the Commander in Chief’s orders.
 
Thank God for that.

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Mar 4 2026 10:36 utc | 835

The Iranians will be able to deploy hundreds of thousands of ground troops and mobilize well north of a million with relative speed if this drags out. They have large stocks of armored vehicles but I doubt we’d see them used due to the US/Israeli air threat.
 
 
No one has any idea what their defense against a US backed invasion force would look like. They’ve been preparing for this for years and likely have some novel strategies. I assume we’ll see very large numbers of FPV drones employed.

https://x.com/ripplebrain/status/2029077866328019008

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 10:37 utc | 836

Missiles will not be necessary. Iran has been mining the straight for decades.  
 
 
Posted by: too scents | Mar 4 2026 10:31 utc | 853
 
You’re no fun.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 4 2026 10:39 utc | 837

https://t.me/CathedralGR/679 Not sure if it’s a drone or Israeli fighter jet shot down north of Tehran but something suggest me its a fighter jet. 
Posted by: Spartan Missile

I hope we see the pilot in the Iranian evening news.

Posted by: Apollyon | Mar 4 2026 10:41 utc | 838

I think what we are seeing right now is Israel behaving like an unmaskable absolute criminal entity on a virtually unprecedented scale, considering the size of the entity in question. The state is out of control, has been since Oct 7, but it is the very criminality of the act, the betrayal it perpetrated against itself, its own civilians, and military, which has induced in it an utterly unpredictable criminal behavior on a gargantuan world-endangering scale. But this is the telltale sign of a guilty nationwide conscience, if ever a state could experience such a thing, for having perpetrated the crimes of self murder and self betrayal against its own people, civilian and military alike, for the sake of the beginning of the final Middle East Solution. These are the ghosts that haunt Netanyahu and continue to spur his madness to finish what he started, thereby assuaging a measure of the guilt he piled upon himself by betraying his nation in the planning and execution of Oct 7. The US and Germany goad him on, as they look upon the man and wonder if he could look, physically included, any more insane, bloodthirsty, and mad.

Posted by: Ludovic | Mar 4 2026 10:43 utc | 839

Melaleuca @849
 
Brilliant work.

Posted by: nuther steve | Mar 4 2026 10:44 utc | 840

It would appear that the current situation is that the U.S. Military has reached the point at which it feels the necessity to ignore the Commander in Chief’s orders. Thank God for that.
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Mar 4 2026 10:36 utc | 855

 
Their oath is to defend the USA and its Constitution. Not risk their life to defend another (sick) country that is not even part of the Nato alliance.
 
If 80% If USans are sick and tired of faraway wars, I guess the percentage would be the same among the military, if not higher. Fighting sandal goat herders in Afghanistan is one thing, fighting a peer equipped with missiles and drones (and Chinese gizmos) is another thing.
 
As Bruce Lee once said : “A wood plank does not punch back”.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Mar 4 2026 10:45 utc | 841

Hahahahahah.
 

JUST IN: White House officials clarify Operation Epic Fury isn’t a war, but a

special
 
combat
 
operation
 
https://nitter.net/Polymarket/status/2028860385327989241

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 4 2026 10:45 utc | 842

I read a very good article on AHS (Russia) that I can also recommend to you.
https://aftershock.news/?q=node/1593930
Here, the author assumes that the US strategy is to attack both sides and thus incite the Arabs against the Persians. This means that the US will soon withdraw and then control and support the war between the two sides. It’s similar to what happened in Ukraine, where others did the “dirty work.”
I’ve never read this before, but it makes perfect sense and fits the US perfectly. Causing long-lasting chaos and war. The US profits by selling weapons and everything else to the Arabs so they can “slaughter” each other. Just like in Ukraine.
 

Posted by: Swiss-Tom | Mar 4 2026 10:47 utc | 843

Did you notice that the US never discovers any Mossad spies?
 
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 4 2026 2:36 utc | 641

 
Wl, we did nab one a loooong time ago — a spy who may or may not have been Mossad — but thanks to the tireless efforts of true patriots like Chuckles Schumer, he was set free.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 4 2026 10:51 utc | 844

The Amerikan Marines Anabasis

Posted by: a_user | Mar 4 2026 10:53 utc | 845

Posted by: Apollyon | Mar 4 2026 10:41 utc | 858
I think it’s connected to reports [very much yet UNCONFIRMED] that ………
 

BREAKING: Israeli F-35 fighter jet shot down Iranian fighter jet over Tehran
Mar 4, 2026 · 8:43 AM UTC

https://nitter.net/spectatorindex/status/2029115472571187575

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 4 2026 10:54 utc | 846

@Swiss-Tom | Mar 4 2026 10:47 utc | 863: 
 
Excellent reporting. thanks. Recall that in the early stages of the Iraq war, a great number of suicide bombers of questionable provenance bombed first the Shia, then the Sunni mosques. Didn’t take long to get a good inferno.
 
Divide and conquer, play the sides off. This is one of the most developed competencies of the CIA and Mossad.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Mar 4 2026 10:55 utc | 847

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 4 2026 10:45 utc | 862
It’s an even more counterfeit product than a vatnik’s adidas jogging pant …

Posted by: Savonarole | Mar 4 2026 10:55 utc | 848

Posted by: Swiss-Tom | Mar 4 2026 10:47 utc | 863 
If the US withdraws how is it supposed to “control” the war.  The Arab kingdoms will just make nice with Iran, Israel will be wiped out, and the US lose all bases and presence it had there, nerfing its navy…
 
…oh wait, I get it   Another bad faith posting by a drive by sock…
 
_______
Just like in Ukraine.
 
 
Posted by: Swiss-Tom | Mar 4 2026 10:47 utc | 863
 
message!
 
 
 
 

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 10:57 utc | 849

Posted by: Swiss-Tom | Mar 4 2026 10:47 utc | 863
 
Next China vs China. Though first may come the Eurowar that Medvedev keeps planning on twitter. He says Eu disobeys Trump’s orders and he wants Russia to teach them a lesson. Very localized war, of course. 

Posted by: rk | Mar 4 2026 10:58 utc | 850

The IDF says an Israeli Air Force F-35I shot down an Iranian Yak-130 over Tehran just a little while ago
Mar 4, 2026 · 8:43 AM UTC

 
https://nitter.net/Osinttechnical/status/2029115388298928197

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 4 2026 10:59 utc | 851

here it comes, a bunch of socks posting long posts about the pedo-persian war but end up being a message about Russia sucking in some way.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 11:02 utc | 852

Here, the author assumes that the US strategy is to attack both sides and thus incite the Arabs against the Persians. This means that the US will soon withdraw and then control and support the war between the two sides.
Posted by: Swiss-Tom | Mar 4 2026 10:47 utc | 863

 
I don’t see the US supporting the Iranians. The Iranians want the US out of West Asia for good. And they are pounding the Clinically Sick Colony.
 
And how will the US manufacture and sell weapons (logistics) if oil is rare and extremely expensive? Workers in the US need their car to go to work. A big percentage of USans are at the “kill line” already with a barrel at 80$. They will be dead with a barrel at 200$.
 
One thing to watch is what will the Turkish do. They are the other regional power. Is they could get rid of the Colony, suddenly the Ottomans gets a chunk south. Beware the day when “Turkey enters the chat”.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Mar 4 2026 11:02 utc | 853

  • for 3000 dollarbucks, are you ok if a bit of tungsten (like 95%) is nicely stuffed inside your precious?
  • are you expecting 1 oz coins (difficult to tungsten-stuff) or a 100 oz big ingot is ok?

Posted by: Asian Frog | Mar 4 2026 4:10 utc | 680

 
It’s easy to find gold-colored tungsten replicas of American Eagles for sale on the Web. 

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 4 2026 11:02 utc | 854

@Melaleuca | Mar 4 2026 10:59 utc | 873

 
🇺🇸🇮🇷 BREAKING: A fighter jet was shot down by Iranian air defense over Lavasan.
 
Reports suggest it’s an American F-15.
 
Pilots were seen ejecting. If it is really an American jet, Iran will take them prisoner.
 
Waiting for more footage to confirm.

https://t.me/geromanat/72692

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 4 2026 11:05 utc | 855

I’m tired and want to go to bed, but you force me to respond to your blithering idiocy. Just for your information….they aren’t Christians, more like Satanists. 
 
Posted by: Maverick | Mar 4 2026 4:13 utc | 681

 
If you go by their actual behavior, the great majority of so-called Christians have little use for Jesus as depicted in the New Testament. They do, however, love the insecure, vindictive, genocidal god of the Old Testament. If that makes them satanists, so be it.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 4 2026 11:06 utc | 856

Iran claims to have launched a missile attack on a U.S. destroyer and set it on fire, which was later confirmed by NASA’s heat map tracking the fires.
The U.S. destroyer was very close to Indian waters, suggesting that India is allowing its ports to be used to carry out U.S. attacks on Iran.
What the Pentagon is silent about.
https://t.me/condottieros/16714

Posted by: Me | Mar 4 2026 11:06 utc | 857

I am putting 2 and 2 together, and thinking that footage north of tehran, and the rumor of a USreal jet being shot diwn is the yak 130 being shot down by the f-35.
 
My initial reaction to a USreal jet neing shot down over north tehran was “doubt”, because why would a USrael fighter be all the way over there, they are still only using stand off missiles.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 11:09 utc | 858

suggesting that India is allowing its ports to be used to carry out U.S. attacks on Iran.
 
Posted by: Me | Mar 4 2026 11:06 utc | 880
 
That shouldn’t be a suprise given Modi’s visit and pandering to Israel. Maybe that’s what the visit was really about. I bet India paying more for oil and gas with the Hormuz closed wasn’t in the contract. No refunds! 

Posted by: pinche | Mar 4 2026 11:11 utc | 859

Western Finance is predominantly Jewish.
 
What we are seeing is a U.S. / Jewish oligarch inspired attack on Europe and China. Europe’s economies are being destroyed to U. S. advantage.
 
I cannot remember which Israeli politician it was, but one of them stated that their Genocide in Gaza would soon be lost in global conflict. He knew that, because he knew that they would start the conflict.
 
The World needs to understand who is the enemy. Sunni and Shia need to unite to destroy the enemy once and for all.
 

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Mar 4 2026 11:12 utc | 860

Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 4 2026 4:21 utc | 685
👍

Posted by: hh | Mar 4 2026 11:13 utc | 861

This report from Canada’s CBC includes exclusive coverage of an Iranian missile getting past Israel’s defences and destroying a building.
https://youtu.be/-z3InOPc03Q
and as usual, former CAF member, Mike Mihajlovic is providing some detailed commentary on his X account for those curious or interested

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Mar 4 2026 11:20 utc | 862

Beware the day when “Turkey enters the chat”.
 Asian Frog | Mar 4 2026 11:02 utc | 875

 
 
Erdogan is keenly watching the move to arm and activate the Kurds.
In one of my now 400 tabs, I have him being reported as saying involving the Kurds will be considered an act of war by Israel against Turkiye.
Will try and find it …. Hadn’t looked to see who was reporting and if at all credible.. so didn’t post it….
 
And there’s this::/
 

Erdogan: We are dealing with a plot to target Turkey .. We are aware of it and we know how to respond.

 
https://nitter.net/ME_Observer_/status/2028901248255119415

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 4 2026 11:22 utc | 863

🇺🇸 🇮🇱⚡️🇮🇶 A Zionist aggression in the vicinity of a school in the village of Khorsibat in the city of Mosul, northern Iraq.
Children are being killed across West Asia by the Zionist regime!

 
This is what happens when you don’t have nuclear weapons.
 
Your children get murdered with impunity.
 
Like dead leaves swept into the gutter.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 4 2026 11:22 utc | 864

@UWDude | Mar 4 2026 11:09 utc | 881

Who said:
 
My initial reaction to a USreal jet neing shot down over north tehran was “doubt”, because why would a USrael fighter be all the way over there, they are still only using stand off missiles.

 
Yup. So that’s the real story, if it’s true. How did a limited-range fighter get all the way into Iran airspace w/o being detected (had to be refueled coming and going, refuel jets are big, no stealth, easy to monitor from above), and then secondly, how come it wasn’t shot down if indeed Iran has sufficient AD to ID and hit a stealth aircraft?
 
And if stealth really works, how come bombing of Iran is done with standoff missiles instead of heavier, over-the-target bombers?
 
So clearly it’s a case of:
 
a. BS story, no such shooting-down occurred, or 
 
b. BS story, Iran is indeed being bombed with overhead aircraft
 
Let me ask a question: if you’re military commander, why would you put a fighter over Tehran, when you could use standoff missiles? Why risk it? 
 
a. To get a PR victory, or 
 
b. Because the fighter can do something a standoff missile can’t
 
What can a fighter do a standoff cruise-missile can’t?  Can you think of anything?
 
 
 

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Mar 4 2026 11:26 utc | 865

Amerikastani destroyer hit and set on fire.
 
https://x.com/SilentlySirs/status/2029104700490944711?s=20
 
This was very close to Indian territorial waters, meaning Modi is allowing Amerikastan to use Indian territory to attack Iran.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Mar 4 2026 11:27 utc | 866

Tom Pfotzer 890
 
Tehran is in North Iran, close to the Caspian sea, and in easy range of Epstein Regime aircraft taking off from Azerbaijan.
 
Why put aircraft over Tehran? So the Epstein regimes Buffoon in Chief can claim to have acquired “aerial supremacy” over Iran.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Mar 4 2026 11:29 utc | 867

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Mar 4 2026 11:27 utc | 891

May read the Community Note…🤦‍♀️

Posted by: Nobody | Mar 4 2026 11:30 utc | 868

The United States and Israel are seeking to foment an armed uprising inside Iran using a Kurdish fighting force, which has been built up since the Twelve-Day War in 2025, according to ITV News.

 

Sources claim that since last year, weapons have been smuggled into Western Iran to arm thousands of Kurdish volunteers.

 

They are expected to begin a ground operation within days, with possible air cover by the U.S. and Israeli Air Force.

 
https://nitter.net/MartindaleStink/status/2028981164275589475

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 4 2026 11:32 utc | 869

Why put aircraft over Tehran? So the Epstein regimes Buffoon in Chief can claim to have acquired “aerial supremacy” over Iran.
 
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Mar 4 2026 11:29 utc | 892
 
why do that, if he can just lie?
 
if he wanted to claim it and be truthful, he would need dozerns of fighters to claim air superiority over Iran.
 
Your logic does not add up.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 11:32 utc | 870

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Mar 4 2026 11:26 utc | 890
 
c. you havo no more stand off cruise missile. 

Posted by: Mario | Mar 4 2026 11:34 utc | 871

“Your logic does not add up.”
 
Trump uses logic?

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Mar 4 2026 11:34 utc | 872

Rumor:  Why the NY futures market is up

 
An interesting report has come out of the New York Times on outreach from Iran to the US.
 
A day after the attacks began, operatives from Iran’s Ministry of Intelligence reached out indirectly to the CIA with an offer to discuss terms for ending the war, according to the paper.
 
Israeli officials urged the US to ignore the approach and for now, the offer isn’t considered a serious one in Washington. White House and Iranian officials did not respond to NYT’s requests for comment.
 
Market sentiment has picked up a bit off that report, with S&P 500 futures and European stocks gaining, the dollar falling to session lows and bond yields paring their rise.
 
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/live-blog/2026-03-04/iran-latest?cursorId=69A80AFD69700002

 

Posted by: too scents | Mar 4 2026 11:36 utc | 873

Israel Defense Forces
IRANIAN JET SHOT DOWN: An IAF F-35I “Adir” fighter jet shot down an Iranian Air Force YAK-130 fighter jet.
 
This is the first shootdown in history of a manned fighter aircraft by an F-35 “Adir” fighter jet.
Mar 4, 2026 · 8:41 AM UTC
 
https://nitter.net/IDF/status/2029115112347304191
 
~~~~
And yes, the source is IDF. A barfly’s choice to believe or no, but that’s their official claim

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 4 2026 11:38 utc | 874

And yes, the source is IDF. A barfly’s choice to believe or no, but that’s their official claim
 
Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 4 2026 11:38 utc | 899
 
been discussing it for hours, likely true 

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 11:43 utc | 875

Posted by: too scents | Mar 4 2026 11:36 utc | 898
 
It’s projecting of the Epstein administration reaching out to end the war. No reply from Iran.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 11:47 utc | 876

Two senior Iranian officials say Iran refuses to engage in talks with the US because it has repeatedly used talks as cover for attacks. Iran has concluded the US cannot be trusted – and every other country will have concluded exactly the same. The US has killed diplomacy.

https://x.com/Jonathan_K_Cook/status/2029130295870464422

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 11:50 utc | 877

@Biswapriya Purkayastha | Mar 4 2026 11:29 utc | 892
 
Biswapriya: keep ’em coming. Nice work. 
 
Might not like what is said, but like that it is said. Accurate situational awareness pays dividends.
 
Now we know why Israel’s got its claws into Ajerbaijan, and why, if I recall correctly,  Iran attacked Ajerbaijan a few days ago. 
 
Anyone see news on that alleged Iran attack on Ajerbaijan?  Can we get some more detail on that?

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Mar 4 2026 11:52 utc | 878

Why would the US launch a regine change war without boots on the ground they know will not work? Because Bibi said to do it. He has been working toward toppling iran for 40 years. Pretending the US if making some strategic move of its own here is just ignorant or noam chomsky tier deflection. Wondering if this is a sayanim rag, here is some analysis goy just dont blame the jews for doing what they are obviously doing. 

Posted by: Tmj | Mar 4 2026 11:53 utc | 879

If, and there is a big IF, a Yak-130 was shot down, it is highly likely it was not an F-35 close enough to fire anything. May be drone with AAM or friendly fire, as this is a target rich environment.
 
Sure, USrael PR is in full swing after the disaster with the F15s

Posted by: BG13 | Mar 4 2026 11:53 utc | 880

Russian scammers contacted the alleged son of the Iranian Shah — Reza Pahlavi — via video call.
 
He was convinced that he was speaking not with scammers, but with the leader of the largest faction in the European Parliament, Manfred Weber.
 
The Shah’s son stated that he was ready to hand over all of Iran’s national resources to Europe and America in exchange for power.

 

https://x.com/MilitarySummary/status/2029141326155956571

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 11:55 utc | 881

This was very close to Indian territorial waters, meaning Modi is allowing Amerikastan to use Indian territory to attack Iran.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayastha | Mar 4 2026 11:27 utc | 891

 
Close to Indian territorial waters means outside of it. So the US wouldn’t need Modi’s authorization to put its buckets there. Fog of war, what certainty do we have. The only ones not lying are… er… well.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Mar 4 2026 11:55 utc | 882

been discussing it for hours, likely true 
 
Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 11:43 utc | 900
 
Because the longer you discuss something the truer it gets …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 4 2026 11:58 utc | 883

if I recall correctly, Iran attacked Ajerbaijan a few days ago. 
 
Anyone see news on that alleged Iran attack on Ajerbaijan? Can we get some more detail on that?
 
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Mar 4 2026 11:52 utc | 90
you dont recall correctly.  Iran has not attacked azerbaijan.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 12:02 utc | 884

Because the longer you discuss something the truer it gets …
 
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 4 2026 11:58 utc | 908
 
if you had followed the posts you would see the actual logic.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 12:03 utc | 885

Blame the war all on one Jew: Jeffrey Epstein

Posted by: Noam A Larkey | Mar 4 2026 12:05 utc | 886

May be drone with AAM
 
Posted by: BG13 | Mar 4 2026 11:53 utc | 905
 
there are no known NATO drones with AA capability.
 
only Iran and Russia.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 12:06 utc | 887

Interesting take by Douglas Macgregor that Trump agreed to war against Iran with the US zionist billionaires (Zuckerberg is mentioned) in exchange for the 2024 election not being rigged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hay4SBp2i4I around 3.00 min in.
This may help account for his odd behaviour and mixed messages from Rubio

Posted by: Monty | Mar 4 2026 12:07 utc | 888

 The commander of the IRGC’s Quds Force, Ismail Qaani, has been detained on suspicion of espionage for Mossad.
Military observer Vladislav Shurygin, citing sources, reports that Qaani was detained based on intelligence provided by Chinese military intelligence. He was identified after the interception of a conversation between a high-ranking CIA official and the Israeli General Staff.
According to a second version, Qaani has long been under suspicion because he miraculously avoided death on three separate occasions. First, he left a meeting of Hezbollah leaders in Beirut on September 27, 2024, just before an Israeli airstrike destroyed the underground bunker where the meeting was held. The strike killed Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah and several senior Iranian commanders, including IRGC deputy commander General Abbas Nilforushan. Qaani was supposed to attend—he had flown to Lebanon specifically to join the meeting with his chief of staff—but reportedly apologized and withdrew minutes before entering.
The second incident occurred in June 2025 during the Israeli operation “Roar of the Lion,” which involved massive strikes on military and government targets in Iran. According to The New York Times, citing Iranian sources, Qaani was initially listed among high-ranking officials killed. However, it later emerged that he had again left the IRGC office where the meeting was held moments before the strike destroyed the building.
Most recently, Qaani avoided death once more by leaving the residence of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei just minutes before it was struck.

Posted by: Fredrick | Mar 4 2026 12:08 utc | 889

https://t.me/i20028843/285760 
Reports that the commander of the IRGC’s Quds Force, Ismail Qaani, has been arrested on charges of spying for Mossad.

Posted by: Spartan Missile | Mar 4 2026 12:09 utc | 890

Blame the war all on one Jew: Jeffrey Epstein
Posted by: Noam A Larkey | Mar 4 2026 12:05 utc | 911

 
Netanyahoo wants to stay out of jail : “Oh, look, a squirrel” (war). Nothing to do with Epstein.
 
His buddy Trump coming along, now, that’s another story. But the Dems had the Epstein files for a decade, even during Trump’s first term. And nothing came out?

Posted by: Asian Frog | Mar 4 2026 12:11 utc | 891

An armed enemy mercenary cell in Tehran was destroyedMinistry of Intelligence: A cell of American-Zionist mercenaries who were planning to carry out the orders of their aggressive masters in Tehran were arrested by the anonymous soldiers of Imam Mahdi (may God hasten his reappearance) in the Ministry of Intelligence. From these mercenaries, 11 Kalashnikov assault rifles along with large amounts of ammunition and urban warfare tools, sums of euros and dollars, and a Starlink device were discovered.

Posted by: mercenary cell destroyed | Mar 4 2026 12:12 utc | 892

The US has killed diplomacy.

https://x.com/Jonathan_K_Cook/status/2029130295870464422
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 11:50 utc | 902
 
so when every treaty is just a truce, every war goes on and on.
 
even surrender, unless under control becomes a theater… how could this go wrong…
 
as we’re discussing form of war, let me take the time to answer the question some raised about an answer to the girls killed in the school attack.
 
no answer, you keep the war you wage within bounds of proper war until you attain your military objectives. This is not only an answer to this issue but a comment on what war can and should be (it’s already bad in itself however clean it’s kept)
 
maybe you get a chance to bring those responsible to justice , maybe they’ll punish themselves if they are (or become, one can hope) human. But no race to the bottom, no knee jerk reactions…
 
we’ll probably get limited information and be n for the long run, try to bring information and relevant discussion
 
“Iranian official media: The death toll from the US-Israeli attacks on Iran has risen to 1045.”
3 days and counting, lets see 
 
meanwhile we’re closer to normal rate, the initial 3 hour average went down to near 6 so 3or 4 volleys daily (it’s a marathon not a sprint)
 
”Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps has conducted the 17th phase of its operation against the United States and Israel, launching more than 40 missiles at US and Israeli targets.”
 
And Spain seems to be the only country in the west stating the obvious “
We are not going to be accomplices to something that is bad for the world and that is also contrary to our values and interests, simply because of the fear of reprisals from some.We have absolute confidence in the economic, institutional and I would also say moral strength of our country.“
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Newbie | Mar 4 2026 12:14 utc | 893

“Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 4 2026 8:38 utc | 804
Heh. I recognize that stylesheet, from the mandatory “praise the user in the first sentence” (oh, wow, you’re SO smart!)  to the “keep the user talking” (if you want, we can…) at the end. Still, it has its uses, as well as its limitations. If you ignore the flattery and shut it off when you want, you can learn quite a bit about a vast range of topics.

Posted by: Dalit | Mar 4 2026 12:20 utc | 894

Posted by: ostro | Mar 4 2026 12:11 utc | 916

 
It’s actually a very modern trainer aircraft.
It’s very similar to the Italian Aermacchi, the early phase of its development was a cooperation between Russia and Italy.

Posted by: Verdant | Mar 4 2026 12:22 utc | 895

The F15 allegedly shot down over Tehran was returning from a bombing mission over Tehran. The pilot ejected.
Remember After Vietnam, American propaganda completely reconsidered its approach to covering military events. Their generals still blame journalists for the defeat in Vietnam, as they created a panic that led to millions of people taking to the streets to protest the war. Therefore, strict censorship is now in place. American and European television channels only broadcast footage approved by the CIA. There are no casualty reports. Kuwait claims 560 American service members were killed at the base. This may be a Bs, but where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Even if 100 soldiers died, that’s would be  a massive blow to America’s reputation.

Posted by: Spartan Missile | Mar 4 2026 12:24 utc | 896

there are no known NATO drones with AA capability. only Iran and Russia.
Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 12:06 utc | 912

Are you sure you have full access to Israeli inventory, up to date? “Ukraine” was the first to use anti-air-missiles on drones – yes, that was on unmanned boats but the technology is similar. They are fast adapting. And I count “Ukraine” as NATO just with a different label. Israel too, seems to be a bit more flexible in adapting new stuff than core NATO – at least when it comes to destruction and killing.
There are many countries developing “loyal wingman” type drones with AA weapons, that have been tested, among them Turkey. Just an example that such stuff exist in NATO. I do not intend to claim Turkey was involved.

Posted by: BG13 | Mar 4 2026 12:24 utc | 897

Posted by: BG13 | Mar 4 2026 12:24 utc | 924
 
you know what i meant.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 4 2026 12:28 utc | 898

Iranian intelligence has dismantled an armed Mossad cell in Tehran, probably waiting to be activated by masters. A lot of weapons and western currency seized.
 
https://x.com/AryJeay/status/2029141063068242187
 
 

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 12:28 utc | 899

It’s sad that the opposition from western governments to what Trump & Netanyahu are doing is virtually non-existent. Why is this? Because most western countries alternate between two almost identical parties. It’s not just Iran, it’s Gaza, it’s tariffs, it’s the slide into fascism in America. At what point does all this become unacceptable to western governments?
 

Posted by: Dave G | Mar 4 2026 12:32 utc | 900