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March 4, 2026
War On Iran – Hormuz Escorts, Kurds, Time-frame

A few of the many interesting current developments of the war on Iran that stand out.

Trump has announced that the U.S. will escort ships through the Strait of Hormuz:

US President Donald Trump said he intends to secure shipping traffic in the Strait of Hormuz, which is threatened by Iran, including with the US Navy.

“If necessary, the United States Navy will begin escorting tankers through the Strait of Hormuz, as soon as possible,” he posted on his platform Truth Social on Tuesday. “No matter what, the United States will ensure the FREE FLOW of ENERGY to the WORLD.”

Additionally, he has instructed the relevant United States International Development Finance Corporation (DFC) to offer risk insurance and guarantees for all maritime trade in the region. The measure is primarily aimed at energy transport but is available to all shipping companies.

Some 20% of the global supplies of oil, LPG and fertilizers have to pass through the Strait of Hormuz. Iran had long announced that the Strait would be closed if the country would come under attack. It has held to its promise. A few small ships have since tried to pass through the Strait but were stopped by Iranian strike impacts. Ship insurance companies have stopped to provide cover for any passage of the Strait.

Trump still does not understand the geographic facts of the Hormuz.


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Its open water width. over a length of some 100+ kilometer, is only about 40 kilometer. Its shipping lanes for large vessels are narrow and just 20 kilometer off the coast of Iran.

The usual way for a navy to secure such a passage would be to launch a severe bombing campaign to eliminate all radar and missile positions along the coastline. Only after such a campaign would attempts be made to pass the strait.

But the Iranian landscape along the coast is largely mountainous. There are many shelters to hide anti-ship missiles or drones. Ships passing the Strait can be seen by the naked eye (or through infrared devices during night time.) A swarm of medium range drones would overwhelm the air-defenses of any Navy escort trying to help tankers to pass through the strait. And that is before Iran decides to drop mines into the strait’s waters.

Hoping for escorts to help one to pass the Strait is like hiring body guards when your enemy is known to be a long range snipers. A hopeless endeavor.

I am sure that the Navy will find ways to let Trump know how futile the escorts would be.

Iran has known for a long time that its biggest advantage in a war is the economic damage it can cause. Two of the global long range air carriers, the Emirates and Qatar airlines, can no longer fly to their main hubs in the Gulf states. Sea freight  will also soon be down to a trickle:

Maersk said on Wednesday it is temporarily suspending most cargo bookings in and out of the United Arab Emirates, Oman, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia until further notice.

The Jeddah and King Abdullah ports in Saudi Arabia and the Salalah port in Oman remained operational while the shipping group is also still accepting cargo to and from Jordan and Lebanon.

The White House seems to have given little though about the global economic and other damage that its war against Iran would cause.

This can also be seen in the ever extending time-frame for its campaign. What started with a ‘days’, ‘a week’, ‘four weeks’ long campaign has now again doubled:

Hegseth says war with Iran could last 8 weeks

The defense secretary says the timeline could go further than previously speculated. “You can say four weeks, but it could be six, it could be eight, it could be three,” he says. “Ultimately, we set the pace and the tempo.”

Another sign that the U.S. campaign has lacked thorough planning is the late activation of proxy forces for fighting Iran on its own ground:

The CIA is working to arm Kurdish forces inside Iran. President Trump called Kurdish leaders personally over the weekend — and on Tuesday spoke directly with Mustafa Hijri, president of the Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan, whose camps the IRGC had just struck with drones.

The Kurds do, as usual, lack unity and regional backing. Neither Iraq nor Turkey will silently sit by while the U.S. and Israel are forming another armed militia that will eventually threaten their states. Iranian nationalist, including the ones who oppose the Islamic Republic, will not welcome ethnic minorities to take over parts of their nation. For decades the U.S. had propped up Kurds to fight Saddam in Iraq and Assad in Syria. They – in the end – lost in both cases. The U.S. may pretend to prop up Iranian Kurds for a while but chances are high that they will be defeated and left hanging.

The U.S. has also decided to widen the regional reach of the war. A U.S. submarine has torpedoed and sunk an Iranian navy vessel in the Indian Ocean:

A U.S. Navy attack submarine has sunk an Iranian warship in the Indian Ocean, the Pentagon has confirmed. Authorities in Sri Lanka had earlier announced they had rescued Iranian sailors from the Moudge class frigate IRIS Dena after what they said appeared to be a submarine attack. This is the first known attack by an American submarine on a surface warship since World War II and the first such action anywhere since the Churchill class HMS Conqueror sank the Argentine Navy cruiser ARA General Belgrano during the Falklands War in 1982.

The U.S. assault on a non-threatening Iranian asset far from the war zone will legitimate Iranian retaliation on U.S. assets world wide.

Comments

Also that the West uses fucking LLM’s to do planning, which is so fucking insane and stupid as to be beyond satire. Someone needs to inform these idjits that its just pattern recognition and that basing decisions on such glorified autocomplete is not going to end well.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 4 2026 18:33 utc | 61

I think it is fucking great. LLMs are anti-intelligence. Not only are they crap in real life situations, their users quickly lose the capacity to think for themselves. Please integrate AI into the US military at warp speed – then we can really hail the Orange Golem as the Peace President.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 4 2026 19:19 utc | 101

Posted by: qparker | Mar 4 2026 19:15 utc | 103

One Line of NS2 is still intact….But squeeze it for Max Concessions….

Posted by: Nobody | Mar 4 2026 19:20 utc | 102

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 4 2026 19:19 utc | 107

There is a High Posibility that US made AI executes there Makers for Incompetence! I say: Dew It!

Posted by: Nobody | Mar 4 2026 19:24 utc | 103

Looks like Iran might have hit a destroyer. 

BREAKING: Fire has been detected on the deck of a U.S. Navy Arleigh Burke-class destroyer in the Arabian Sea, possibly due to an impact by an Iranian anti-ship ballistic missile

@Middle_East_Spectatorhttps://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/29722
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 19:14 utc | 101
Colonel Cassad also mentioned this as well but adds “we will wait for clear photos.” 
 

Posted by: nazcalito | Mar 4 2026 19:25 utc | 104

Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 4 2026 18:33 utc | 62
That is funny as hell.
One can imagine Putin muttering ‘God bless Ayatollah Kamenei, may he rest in peace’ under his breath at the end of that sentence.
What’s the betting attacks on Russian tankers stop in a hurry and the threatened British naval blockade of the North Atlantic suddenly gets called off?

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 4 2026 19:25 utc | 105

AI Funny….

https://futurism.com/future-society/vending-machine-claude-disaster

Posted by: Nobody | Mar 4 2026 19:26 utc | 106

MOATS, with George Galloway: ‘Operation Epstein Fury’
 
https://www.youtube.com/@GeorgeGallowayOfficial
 
“|Trump lambasts Starmer| Resilient Iran| Forever War|
 
With guests Prof Glenn Diesen & ex-CIA officer Michael Scheuer.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 4 2026 19:27 utc | 107

“we will wait for clear photos.”

Influencers Big on Instagram/TikTok pass the Wreck with there Yachts? 🤦‍♀️🥸

Posted by: Nobody | Mar 4 2026 19:27 utc | 108

“there is nothing new under the sun.” just dangle those WMDs in front of the world and expect everyone to cluck like terrified chickens.
 
what has been will be…but there’s nothing new…? how does that happen? 
 
“there is no remembrance.” that’s how. how does a society develop this class of people, the US “managerial class,” who instinctively and reflexively act like they never heard of the “threat of WMDs” before?
 
per wiki, Mika Brzenski (sp? fuck it) joined MSNBC in 2007. Iraq, Syria, NK, Libya (?), the ongoing threat of Russia and China…and terrorist VZ commies invading “Red Dawn” style from Cuba…for the entirety of her career, she’s sold the lie of “WMDs”. 
 
this is just one example. these people are everywhere. they run everything. they’ve spent the entirety of their lives actively and knowingly spreading the lies of the ruling class. 
 
how do you think these people will respond when their Middle East project fails? they’ve been up to their necks in blood for a long time. 

Posted by: duck n cover | Mar 4 2026 19:27 utc | 109

If you have the time, the latest by Alon Mizrahi on Iran is an amazing analysis.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DWMrK1wwfk
 
It is not a casual recommendation. I really sincerely believe that if you’re not a pedophile, you will get a lot out of it.
 
It’s what I have believed since Oct 9th, a few years ago, and posted dozens of times on the old site in the Palestine discussions.
 
This is the end of Israel and the end of the colonial West.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 4 2026 19:27 utc | 110

Coincidence? there is alot of fog of war.
 
1.The IRGC announced on March 3rd striking an American destroyer and fuel tanker in the Indian Ocean – saying the warship had been hit using “Ghadr-380” and “Talaieh” missiles. The destroyer was next to a refuelling tanker, both were hit and on fire.  There is absolute silence from the US which means the story is “truth”.
 
2.Than at the same time we get the US  strike on the Iranian IRIS Dena in the Indian Ocean.  Orgy full of coverage on mainstream media, like a distraction.
 
I suggest folks research the “Ghadr-380” and “Talaieh” cruise missiles, these are bad-ass! 
 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Mar 4 2026 19:27 utc | 111

Report: B-52s carpet bombing urban areas unmolested.If true it suggests Iranian air defences are attritted. 

Posted by: nwwoods | Mar 4 2026 19:28 utc | 112

Doesn’t anyone else think Russian submarine could now sink a US navy ship and credit it to Iran? Pandora’s box is open.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 19:28 utc | 113

It takes a shit ton of missiles and drones to sink a ship but much less to disable it.
 
The media will not realize the us is losing as long as any american ship still floating and burning

Posted by: KillerDoll | Mar 4 2026 19:28 utc | 114

How much fuel before American ship need to refuel in another nation port ? 

Posted by: KillerDoll | Mar 4 2026 19:29 utc | 115

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 4 2026 19:19 utc | 107
 
####
 
LLMs are tools, like calculators and computers.
 
In the 90s, the future belonged to people who could master search algorithms.
 
Today, the future will belong to people who can use LLMs with proficiency. That is why China has made AI learning part of the grade school level curriculum nationally.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 4 2026 19:30 utc | 116

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 19:28 utc | 119
 
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To what end?
 
Russia is on the winning side; NATO is close to collapse.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 4 2026 19:31 utc | 117

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 4 2026 19:19 utc | 107
trust an LLM or WarSec Pete? tough times at the pentagon. let’s ask the LLM if soldiers have the right and/or duty to refuse unlawful orders.

Posted by: duck n cover | Mar 4 2026 19:34 utc | 118

 US-Israeli strikes on Iran could trigger a global famine

Wednesday, 4 March 2026 — Geopolitics Prime
The timing of the US-Israeli attack on Iran “literally could not be worse” for the fertilizer industry, StoneX Group brokerage VP Josh Linville told Bloomberg, alluding to the imminent start of the Northern Hemisphere’s growing season, and problems shortages of the key farming ingredient could cause.
Here’s what’s at stake if US-Israeli aggression continues:
 1/3+ of the world’s Sulphur and ammonia-based fertilizers pass through the Strait of Hormuz, now blocked amid the Iran strikes’ escalation into a regional war
 ~5% more pass through the Red Sea, including Russian, Belarusian and European fertilizers heading to Asia, and Jordanian, Egyptian and Israeli potash, nitrogen and phosphates shipped to world markets
 Iran, a global top ten producer of urea – a high-nutrient fertilizer variety, and major exporter of anhydrous ammonia (4.5M and 800k tons, respectively) has been forced to halt its own exports.
 Egypt and Jordan, which depend on imported energy to produce their fertilizers, face skyrocketing prices
 If Hormuz and Bab el-Mandeb are out of bounds, what remains of exports will need to be shipped around the Cape of Good Hope, arriving weeks later, while costs surge thanks to hiked shipping costs and market speculation (urea prices have already skyrocketed from $470-$531 in four days, per Trading Economics)
What does less fertilizers mean?
 Lower yields of key staple crops (corn, wheat, rice, etc.), carbohydrates critical to diets in many developing countries, and used heavily to feed animals (livestock, farmed fish)
 Higher food prices
 High logistical costs and the complex chemical nature of different fertilizer varieties makes the commodity a just-in-time (JIT) piece of farming supply chains. ‘Strategic fertilizer reserves’ are rare and expensive
Who’s the most vulnerable?
 India, which imports urea heavily from Gulf nations, and relies on Qatari LNG for domestic plants
 Brazil, which gets as much as 1/3 of its fertilizers from Oman and Qatar
 Turkey, which relies on Iranian fertilizers
 An array of other nations, from South Africa, Ethiopia and Niger to Thailand and Bangladesh
 US-Israel-Iran war | @geopolitics_prime

 

Posted by: Barofsky | Mar 4 2026 19:34 utc | 119

Caroline Leavitt looked nice sometime ago, now she looks like a witch!
Posted by: ostro | Mar 4 2026 18:50 utc | 78

That’s what happens when the soul dies years before the body.
Just look at Victoria Nuland or Kilary.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 4 2026 19:35 utc | 120

Doesn’t anyone else think Russian submarine could now sink a US navy ship and credit it to Iran? Pandora’s box is open.
Posted by: unimperator

To risky. 

Posted by: Apollyon | Mar 4 2026 19:36 utc | 121

US boots on the ground (funny).
 
https://x.com/cirnosad/status/2029269595069337737

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 19:37 utc | 122

How can the Israeli Jews, who consider themselves superior to the rest of humanity, allow themselves to be  led by a snivelling coward, who starts a fight and then runs away, leaving the inhabitants of Israel to be obliterated by missiles?
 
My grandfather was Jewish; he would never have stood for that.

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Mar 4 2026 19:39 utc | 123

Re: Russia could end gas supplies to EU immediately – Putin
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 4 2026 18:33 utc | 62
 
Talk is CHEAP, action is COSTLY!  – catch word is ‘could’ – Zionist Putin will take it up the ***. 
 
 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Mar 4 2026 19:41 utc | 124

Posted by: too scents | Mar 4 2026 19:07 utc | 94
 
Wash, rinse, repeat.
Original question was can sub (US) protect tanker traversing the Strait? 
Answer NO, let alone the minisubs (Iranian). 
 

Posted by: Mario | Mar 4 2026 19:42 utc | 125

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 19:28 utc | 119 ####
Highly perceptive of you.  China has submarines too.  A panic will ensue if this happens, perhaps a submarine free for all.  I’ pretty sure the US did not think the implications of this frough, if the bothered to think at all.

Posted by: Student of History | Mar 4 2026 19:42 utc | 126

Doesn’t anyone else think Russian submarine could now sink a US navy ship and credit it to Iran? Pandora’s box is open.
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 19:28 utc | 119
 
Russia won’t even defend their own ships, what makes you think they will defend Iran. 

Posted by: Maverick | Mar 4 2026 19:43 utc | 127

Doesn’t anyone else think Russian submarine could now sink a US navy ship and credit it to Iran? Pandora’s box is open.Posted by: unimperator
To risky. 
Apollyon @127

 
No, but they could sink a French one. How can they possibly resist? Give Medvedev the keys to a sub!

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 4 2026 19:43 utc | 128

Posted by: nwwoods | Mar 4 2026 19:28 utc | 118
 
#####
 
Based on my model, it suggests that American munitions are being attrited.
 
The US can bomb Iran to look like Gaza. Iran’s military (and air force) is underground, and they haven’t yet really started hitting back.
 
Meanwhile, the Chinese and Russians are capturing data and signal profiles of the bombers in order to tune their radars and e-warfare.
 
This is not the invasion of Iraq. This is the end of American military power.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 4 2026 19:44 utc | 129

Is Netanyahu MIA or something?

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 4 2026 19:46 utc | 130

Dover Air Force Base is now “urgently hiring” people to sort the personal effects of dead U.S. soldiers. Not something you’d expect if only four service members had been killed. The sudden demand for contractors for this suggests that the official casualty figures released are lies. IRGC may be telling the truth. The number has to be in the hundreds.  Laugh my ass off. Lie after lie after fucking zionist jew lie…  Dover Air Force Base ramps up hiring for casualty processing roles

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Mar 4 2026 19:46 utc | 131

I think it is fairly obvious who forced the Empire’s hand, but I will leave that as a question for discussion. I’ll just say that it is a really bad idea to bluff like that when you are partnered with the very most psychotic of psychopaths.
 
Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 4 2026 18:20 utc | 46

 
By far my favourite conspiracy angle so far. So many twists! Here is one: After Trump had derailed Israel’s first attempt to force him into a desastrous war on Iran in the 12-day farce, they were trying it again. This time Trump pre-empted the campaign by striking prematurely, thus giving Iran a head start and ensuring a conflict course which precludes future  misuse of US forces in West Asia. Optionally, Iran was on board all along, likely ever since towards the end of the previous round: Khamenei offered up himself, or was sacrificed by his own security council unwittingly, to get the scheme going. Notice the doubled strategic value of this strike. Bonus points for claiming the girl school massacre was in fact an Iranian false flag, done to ensure national unity while on a war footing.
 
I can’t read your responses until much later – off to a jam session. I’ll be wearing my alu cap.

Posted by: persiflo | Mar 4 2026 19:46 utc | 132

@123
 
LLM are entertaining, their vague recognitions of patterns do not compete with SQL.
 
Inference from “trained” LLM is a vague term for “accept the chance your early “recognitions” were delusional”.

Posted by: paddy | Mar 4 2026 19:48 utc | 133

Anyone know or have recent sightings of the little devil – Bibi? 
 
Obituary :October 1949 – February 2026 
 
seems plausible. 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Mar 4 2026 19:48 utc | 134

Two factors are critical in turning the US, especially MAGA voters, against Trump and his war of choice:  the price of gasoline and US war dead.  The government can try to suppress the rise in gas prices by increasing draw downs from the strategic reserve, and stifle the publication of US military casualties.  But eventually these attempts will fail, and there will be many outraged Americans.  My guess is even the most diehard MAGAidiots are realizing their savior is feeding them a massive line of BS. The question in my mind is whether Trump himself actually believes his own verbal diarrhea, making him the most gullible fool of them all.  Is his thinking something like ‘I’m now the president of the most powerful country on earth, this awesome military is at my disposal, I rule.’  I think he really does believe that America is the greatest thing the world has ever seen, and the force of his personality will restore its glory.  He really is coo coo for coco puffs.

Posted by: Mike R | Mar 4 2026 19:49 utc | 135

Posted by: Maverick | Mar 4 2026 19:43 utc | 133
 
#####
 
That attitude and perspective are why the US is done as a military power, IMO.
 
Russia, China, and Iran are all civilizational states. They move slowly and deliberately. America? Frantic and making it up on the fly.
 
If you have ever done anything strategic and competitive (business, athletics, poker, etc.), you often have to lure your opponent into defeat.
 
Capturing 200 Russian ships is irrelevant if Russia wins the conflict in the end.
 
The result of these conflicts is binary. Someone wins, someone loses. How they dressed or how long it took, or what the names of their Wunderwaffes were, doesn’t matter.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 4 2026 19:50 utc | 136

just saw some thermal photos of the Arleigh Burke destroyer that was allegedly hit, looks like the photo was taken from a ways away. hardly convincing but if a destroyer was hit it should be confirmed in 1-2 days

Posted by: Kadath | Mar 4 2026 19:50 utc | 137

Kurdish forces from Iraq launched a ground offensive into Iran.

Posted by: Spartan Missile | Mar 4 2026 19:51 utc | 138

Killerdoll. 102
 
Turkiye is cousins with Khazars.
 
Turkiye stick its nose into the Muslim world 600 years ago using ruthless violence and Israel 100 years ago , with ruthless violence.
 
Genghis Khan trashed everything and everybody in one town before moving to the next. Israel has and will do the same.
 
Neither you nor anybody else can separate these faithless peoples,  and Turkey and Israel have both in fact transfigured Islam into a ruthlessly violent code, which Muslims  have more or less adopted in the vain hope that Turkiye and Israel will protect them and help them against America and Britain.
 
Let me inform Political Islam that Turkiye and Israel started as Satanism and ended as Satanism., and the West is Satan itself.
Nothing that comes from or is supported by the Satanic West has any connection to Islam. 
 
So, is agree with you that Turkiye should stick with USUKIS,  but their 600 years of Caliphate is a good disguise for infiltrating Islam.
 
Politics is Lying, like Satanism like Trump, Erdoğan and Netanyahu.
 
 

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 4 2026 19:52 utc | 139

Posted by: Spartan Missile | Mar 4 2026 19:51 utc | 144
Makes sense as most of the Israeli air attacks in the past 48 hours have been in the area.  

Posted by: Spartan Missile | Mar 4 2026 19:55 utc | 140

Today, the future will belong to people who can use LLMs with proficiency. That is why China has made AI learning part of the grade school level curriculum nationally.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 4 2026 19:30 utc | 122

Americans use them to cheat and are getting stupider by the day.
Child’s Play

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 4 2026 19:55 utc | 141

Azerbaijanis are mobilizing to attack Iran.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 19:55 utc | 142

So the cleavage is going to come down to their old proxies. It’s desperation. Send everyone!
 
The Old satraps as I said earlier. 
 
The World War at Sea was declared. 
it’s the multipolar being slapped across the face with a Pearl Harbour moment. 
Modi showed his true ‘Colors’

@mohitlaws
4h

>Iran’s warship was invited by India to participate in MILAN 2026. >It was returning from India with around 200 sailors on board. >The U.S. Navy sank it using a torpedo in the Indian Ocean. >More than 80 sailors died after drowning in the ocean. >India didn’t provide humanitarian help to the sailors. >Modi didn’t even condemn this attack on our guest.
Mar 4, 2026 · 3:18 PM UTC

 
Also the only other land invasion possibilities.
 
Azerbajain on the move. Turkey to follow. 
 
it is the world war with full cleavage they need. 

Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 4 2026 19:58 utc | 143

There are SO many trolls and liars here now that it’s not worth posting. The comment section here is a fucking sewer. Good luck. Bye. 

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Mar 4 2026 20:00 utc | 144

nwwoods @ 118
 

Report: B-52s carpet bombing urban areas unmolested.If true it suggests Iranian air defences are attritted. 

 
I’d say it’s a disaster, USA must now have complete air dominance. From Google, and note we are talking 1971 and the N.Vietnamese were using already outdated Soviet missiles and radars that they were dragging around and setting up in the jungle:
 
North Vietnam shot down 15 B-52 Stratofortress heavy bombers during the 11-day Operation Linebacker II campaign (often called the Christmas Bombings) in December 1972. These losses represented a significant blow to the US, with 6 bombers shot down in a single day. 
 
Key details regarding the B-52 losses:
 
Total Lost: 15 B-52s were shot down, with some sources mentioning up to 16 total losses when accounting for planes damaged beyond repair.
 
Casualties: Approximately 33 to 43 American airmen were killed or captured during these engagements.
 
Context: Despite these losses, the intense bombing campaign is credited with forcing North Vietnam to return to the negotiating table in Paris.
 
Total Sorties: Over 700 B-52 sorties were flown during the campaign.
 
The U.S. acknowledged the loss of 16 B-52 bombers, while North Vietnam claimed 34 bombers shot down.
 
More info:
 
Operation Linebacker II
 
 
 

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 4 2026 20:01 utc | 145

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 4 2026 19:55 utc | 147
 
#####
 
America does almost everything the wrong way.
 
I use LLM all of the time, and it is super useful, and makes me much more productive, not dissimilar to how the Chinese use it.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 4 2026 20:01 utc | 146

Productive? How can you possibly have time to do anything productive with your dozens of posts here all day every day?
 
Or is this an admission that you’re a bot?

Posted by: David F | Mar 4 2026 20:07 utc | 147

Re: Kurdish incursion from Iraq
The IDF has been attacking Basij forces in the Kurdish city of Saqqez in western Iran today.. If the incursion has happened then then that city would be a tempting target given how close it is to the border. 
 

Posted by: Spartan Missile | Mar 4 2026 20:09 utc | 148

In the old days I would feel bad about OT sorts of injections but since this has become the LD and others agnotology station I don’t feel guilt noting that Larry Johnson on Daniel Davis Deep Dive just said that Trump is now refusing to pay off the folks that were used to extract Maduro from Venezuela…..pssst….tell your neighbor and Gruff also

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 4 2026 20:10 utc | 149

Zionazis are bombing border posts, police stations and military bases in the Iranian part of Kurdistan. So they are paving way for the turd invasion. On a side note, the apparent freedom of bombing in Iran is alarming.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 20:10 utc | 150

How do you know they aren’t helping
 – HB_Norica  75

Let me take a stab at that one, if Russia and China had helped enough, Israel’s nuclear threat/bluff would have been called upfront.  If Russia and China had helped enough the war would not have started.  From the Caspian Sea Russia can annihilate Israel with conventional missiles.  Even now, if China/Russia said to Israel/US to get the fuck out, the war would end.  Israelis/Israeli-Americans made no secret of their plans to destroy Iran.  As I said the other day China/Iran/Russia share a great deal of the blame, this war should never of happened.

Posted by: S Brennan | Mar 4 2026 20:10 utc | 151

Kind of interesting. In the time when information can travel around the whole globe in a second or two, photographic evidence has never been better, that the info we get is mostly dubious bullshit and straight out lies.

Posted by: arby | Mar 4 2026 20:13 utc | 152

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 4 2026 19:50 utc | 142
 
It must be nice to have all the answers. 

Posted by: Maverick | Mar 4 2026 20:13 utc | 153

Let’s get this straight 
Iran apparently has no AD whatsoever and the US are having the run of the place up to and including Tehran itself.
And people think that Russia and China are doing anything to help ?
 

Posted by: Night Tripper | Mar 4 2026 20:14 utc | 154

I would hate to see my fellow US veterans and soldiers die but World Peace requires the USA DEFEAT
 

Posted by: KillerDoll | Mar 4 2026 19:15 utc | 102
 
Nobody is forcing them to work as contract killers.

Posted by: BlindSpot | Mar 4 2026 20:15 utc | 155

Posted by: S Brennan | Mar 4 2026 20:10 utc | 157
 
#####
 
Like Trump and Hegseth, you don’t understand anything about the Iranians. Not a damn thing.
 
They never wanted a nuke. A nuke is haram to use, a concept that Secular Westerners cannot comprehend, like they cannot understand the magnitude of killing Khameini.
 
Russia and China are playing their role perfectly, IMO.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 4 2026 20:17 utc | 156

Posted by: Night Tripper | Mar 4 2026 20:14 utc | 160
 
I’m believing that Putin does have a certain level of zio influence. Probably not fully, but some.
 
I also think the claim of 2 million old ‘soviet citizens’ living in Israel prevents doing anything is an excuse. Those people themselves left and have nothing to do with modern Russia. In fact, many might be hostile to Russia anyway.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 20:18 utc | 157

 
Top Gun on the ground
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T5srpfeqLSE&pp=ygURS3V3ZXV0IHBpbG90IHBpcGU%3D
 
 

Posted by: BlindSpot | Mar 4 2026 20:18 utc | 158

“I use LLM all of the time…”
 
 
Yep, practically every post.

Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 4 2026 20:20 utc | 159

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 20:10 utc | 156
Very alarming… the Israelis have been hitting Tabriz and as I said earlier Saqqez. 

Posted by: Spartan Missile | Mar 4 2026 20:20 utc | 160

I recall Putin saying years ago that Russia  was not here to save the world. China does not want war, thinks war is senseless and therefore does not jump in to war. The country that wants war for everything and everyone is the west not Russia or China.
 
Russia is running down Nato and its artillery, China is doing its bit by using trade and finance to cripple the monster, Iran is now doing the attacking and damaging. 
 
They are working on bringing the insane drunk to its knees
And IMO they are succeeding.

Posted by: arby | Mar 4 2026 20:20 utc | 161

One of the delusional posting titles at ZH
 
Goldman Expects Strait Of Hormuz Flows To Restart After 5 Days; Fully Normalize in 4 Weeks

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 4 2026 20:20 utc | 162

Posted by: Spartan Missile | Mar 4 2026 20:09 utc | 154
 
They’ll be doing many FRIENDLY fire on the Kurds.  LOL ! 
 
also
 
Iran is accustomed to LONG wars! not LONG theatre. 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Mar 4 2026 20:21 utc | 163

Posted by: Night Tripper | Mar 4 2026 20:14 utc | 160
 
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Russia and China can both still transit Hormuz.
 
All of that bombing is a waste of time. Iran is not going to be regime-changed.
 
Ground invasions won’t work. Iran has millions of trained soldiers fighting for their home and armed with superior technology, with ISR, with Chinese and Russian electronic support. The Iranian air force, including the helicopters Russia delivered to them this year, is still waiting, powder dry.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 4 2026 20:22 utc | 164

Azerbaijanis are mobilizing to attack Iran
Unimperator  148

If this is true then the Turks are directly involved in this war.  As I pointed out the other day, it has been a long range project of Erdogon’s Ottomans to bifurcate the Caspian.  Wow.  Putin and his SloMo…without a doubt the dumbest military campaign since WW I.   And still his SloMo-fanboys wave their pom-poms…effing pathetic.

Posted by: S Brennan | Mar 4 2026 20:22 utc | 165

Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 4 2026 20:20 utc | 165
 
######
 
Don’t get passive-aggressive. A few others have that role locked up, and they don’t have anything else to fall back upon.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 4 2026 20:24 utc | 166

Posted by: arby | Mar 4 2026 20:20 utc | 167
 
Who’s the paying the price?  thousands of civilians and soldiers.
 
Put Zionist Putin, Xi, Trump, Stalmer, Mehz, Von Der, Macron in the front lines and we can talk about a COMPLETELY different SCENARIO! 
 
Great plan. 
 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Mar 4 2026 20:25 utc | 167

The sunk Iranian ship IRIS Dena was participating in the 2026 Indian MILAN exercise. The US also participated in the exercise, so they knew exactly where the Iranian ship was.
As the linked article states: the exercise consisted mostly of Quadrilateral Security Dialogue (QUAD, read anti-China) navies. What was Iran doing sending their ship there?

Posted by: SVC | Mar 4 2026 20:26 utc | 168

Posted by: S Brennan | Mar 4 2026 20:22 utc | 171
 
Reality is a painful admission.   Don’t be a TROLL – (sarcasm) 
 
 

Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Mar 4 2026 20:27 utc | 169

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 19:55 utc | 148
The Israeli attacks on Tabriz suggest they are hoping the Azeri population will rise up in the city.  

Posted by: Spartan Missile | Mar 4 2026 20:27 utc | 170

I recall Putin saying years ago that Russia  was not here to save the world. China does not want war, thinks war is senseless and therefore does not jump in to war. The country that wants war for everything and everyone is the west not Russia or China. Russia is running down Nato and its artillery, China is doing its bit by using trade and finance to cripple the monster, Iran is now doing the attacking and damaging.  They are working on bringing the insane drunk to its kneesAnd IMO they are succeeding.
Posted by: arby | Mar 4 2026 20:20 utc | 167

 
I agree Russia is winning. Also the economy-in-force strategy, well, takes more time but lessens casualties in a given amount of time.
 
Russia has mostly demilitarized Nato, US, UK, France, Germany, Poland partially.
 
The issue is wars on Iran and Russia are – on the top political and strategical level treated separately. There is no other deliberate synergies created other than what happen to occur in each war. Demilitarizing Nato and US provides synergy but there is no mutual support per se on top level.
 
Whether it is enough to defeat the ziopedo Epstein army on its own momentum is a question. I think so, I just pray that the epstein army can be defeated, the immediate alarming thing is the impunity of bombing Iranian territory.
 
Iranian army is stronger than turds, azeris or FUKUS forces together and has ability to win, but if US can bomb them it becomes a nasty force equalizer.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 20:29 utc | 171

Does anyone here know anything about the 8-year Iraq/Iran war, where America, Israel, and the USSR supported Iraq?
 
Azerbaijan is a joke, Kurds and mercenaries are a joke. Syria’s headchoppers, Turkiye, are a joke. The latter is a big army, unblooded.
 
This is all to force Hormuz open, before the global economy crashes.
 
Hormuz will not open.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 4 2026 20:31 utc | 172

171 – this is rapidly turning into a huge regional ME war with the Kurds, and Azerbijanis attacking Iran, with the US and Turkey supporting those efforts, and with Iraqi Shia’s supporting the Iranians.  Basra now fully supportive of Tehran!
 
No wonder the Iranians are firing missiles at Turkish targets.  And are the Chinese PA folks involved in bucking up Iranian missile forces, especially after the shoot down of 4 F15’s over Kuwait and Tehran and the attack on the US DDG and fleet tanker in the Arabian Sea ?
 
Was the torpedoing of the Iranian frigate in response to these attacks?
 
This will not end well………reek havoc and unleash the dogs of war!

Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 4 2026 20:31 utc | 173

still we don’t know what Netanyohu is doing in Germany.. nor do we know if it is related to opening the flow of gas and oil from Russia into Germany..  ?  
 
I think it could be revealing to learn more about this.. 

Posted by: snake | Mar 4 2026 20:33 utc | 174

Conundrum: A “down day” in the Iranian War (markets rally, Iran licks its navy’s wounds, allied air supremacy over Iran) is anything but.
Azerbaijan and Kurds on the move.
Turkey and Iraq now entering the equation. 
 
Showdown at the OK-Straits-of-Hormuz.
 
I ask, what good is the overflowing information well of the interwebz if the information is curated by authorities? The most self-aggrandizing instrument in the history of information media is the most useless after all. And we are left to figure it out for ourselves where the truth lies.
 This is tricky. The empire wants you to despair. It does so in such a way, however, that it can not overstate its success (of course, we know that its success is indeed limited), but it surely does undersell its losses.
 
 What to do? I suggest, like a nightshift sanitation engineer at a wastewater treatment plant, we continue to parse the shit that comes our way for information that can be transmitted to the surface. Benevolently and with great generosity. 
 
It’s a job requiring a certain kind of person.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Mar 4 2026 20:34 utc | 175

I wonder if Iran has learned (from Ukraine/Russia War) how to slow ground invasion to a slog?   DRONES 

Posted by: Fredrick | Mar 4 2026 20:34 utc | 176

Posted by: Fredrick | Mar 4 2026 20:34 utc | 182
 
The azeris and turds will most likely face a very large number of FPV drones.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 20:36 utc | 177

unimperator @177:  “The issue is wars on Iran and Russia are – on the top political and strategical level treated separately. There is no other deliberate synergies created other than what happen to occur in each war. Demilitarizing Nato and US provides synergy but there is no mutual support per se on top level.” 
 
Sure, that’s the Russian view, and that is why some think of them as dull-witted and naive. It absolutely is all one war as far as the US is concerned, though. 

Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 4 2026 20:37 utc | 178

It is delightfully ironic that in closing the Straits of Hormuz, Iran has sanctioned the West, and apparently the West is not enjoying the experience.
 
And therein lies a clue as to how the free transit of cargoes through the Straits might be restored.

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Mar 4 2026 20:40 utc | 179

On a side note, the apparent freedom of bombing in Iran is alarming.
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 20:10 utc | 156
 
Yes. The Iranians seem to have very good ballistic missiles but their AD‘s are apparently trash. What I wonder is, how good are their EW-systems. Are they good enough to meddle with the accuracy of the US/Israeli missiles and bombs?

Posted by: NoName | Mar 4 2026 20:40 utc | 180

but if US can bomb them it becomes a nasty force equalizer.
 
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2026 20:29 utc | 177
 
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Iran’s military and air force are underground. Most of it cannot be bombed.
 
That is why the air campaign was stillborn from the jump.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 4 2026 20:42 utc | 181

US Troops were told Iran war is for ‘Armageddon,’ return of Jesus
https://asiatimes.com/2026/03/us-troops-were-told-iran-war-is-for-armageddon-return-of-jesus/

“Hegseth has enshrined evangelical Christianity at the uppermost levels of the US military, airing monthly prayer meetings throughout the Pentagon. Last year, the Pentagon confirmed to me that Hegseth attends a weekly White House Bible study. It’s led by a preacher who says God commands America to support Israel.”

Photo of Trump quite visibly angry and yelling at Hegseth (from Larry Johnson’s site)
https://sonar21.com/how-iran-can-defeat-donald-trump/

Posted by: cc | Mar 4 2026 20:42 utc | 182

Escorting ships I get. BUT the New Golden Age Messiah has absolutely NO authority or does the USIDFC to insure foreign vessels. I don’t know why we have congress or any laws anymore,They don’t mean shit to this guy and he is allowed to get away with it.
And yet we still hear the Evangelical death cult MAGA mouth breathers that still believe his shit don’t stink chanting Merica, Merica, Merica. These uninformed  nutjobs want War fine, fuck it but only them and their kids and the kids of Trump and congress get to go die for the Jews AGAIN.

Posted by: IcyR7 | Mar 4 2026 20:42 utc | 183

Unimperator, why not give those pom-poms a rest…

Posted by: S Brennan | Mar 4 2026 20:42 utc | 184

Is Trump’s inane proposition about insuring and protecting strait of Hormuz traffic prompted by suggested plans for a possible NATO (and local allies) expedition to land troops in Iran? Military planners love to practice planning with all sorts of scenarios, including far fetched ones. A supposedly limited incursion into the Iranian littoral adjacent the strait is likely enough to be such a practice project. The writers may even have hypothesized that such a strategic substitute for a mass invasion could be protected from counter-attack by air cover. Given the importance of tactical air maybe this is not completely insane? Supply would be partly by airlift but mainly by sea. They may even see it as the equivalent of the American army taking southern Italy except that instead of fighting their way through the mountains to the big cities and capital, they’d take the tactical defensive. Nonetheless, given political will on the Iranians’ part, I am not at all sure this isn’t the recipe for putting a relatively large expeditionary force at risk of battlefield defeat. I fear that the belief in the power of tactical nukes to retrieve any such defeat, Trump and his lackeys may feel they could get away with it. But I admit I do already think that tactical nukes are already in theater, complete with target menus. 
 
Secretary of War has purged the officer corps as vigorously as one could, given that the US still pretends at being a (semi)functional bourgeois democracy. Chief of Staff Dan Caine was selected to be a stooge for the purge, it is unlikely he could suddenly pretend to have a central nervous system (both backbone and brain) at this point to explain anything with authority, not even the truism that no plan survives intact after the first combat. 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 4 2026 20:44 utc | 185

Does anyone remember that Putin has kept 2 whole armies in reserve?
 
Anticipating a bigger conflict for years.
 
The RU MOD has been able to cycle troops to the front to keep people fresh and to get experience for the newer recruits.
 
This is the big one.
 
In Abrahamic eschatology, it may well be the End of Days. Many of the events tick the right boxes.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 4 2026 20:45 utc | 186

Update from Kuwait — “Iraqi armed factions targeting Kuwait” on border; Iraqi diplomat summoned to MoFA

https://news-pravda.com/world/2026/03/04/2127040.html

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 4 2026 20:46 utc | 187

AD ?
 
hows that Rust Dome ? 
BWAHHH 

Posted by: Exile | Mar 4 2026 20:47 utc | 188

Dumbass pulling out the old “keep your powder dry” cope…how pathetic

Posted by: S Brennan | Mar 4 2026 20:49 utc | 189

If the US is reverting to B-52s*, does this mean they have run out of smart bombs and JDAMs?
Why not the super-duper B-2s? Still too risky?
*not saying I believe it

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 4 2026 20:53 utc | 190

In any realistic view of the world, which I believe to be Marxism, any analysis that doesn’t start from the premise that the war for the redivision of the world started in 2014, when a fascist regime was for the first time installed by formally bourgeois democratic powers, is fundamentally flawed. In that perspective, expansion of the war is inevitable. The friction of war basically guarantees it, I think is one way to explain that. One question that arises then, will India launch a nuclear war against Pakistan? Pakistan has already launched war against Afghanistan. It is often forgotten I think that Modi’s regime also has strong claims to be fascist. Extermination of enemy peoples has to be considered a goal common to many fascist programs. 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 4 2026 20:55 utc | 191

Nicolai Lilin’s podcasts are invaluable not only about Ukraine but also about Iran. He is an Italian blogger of Transnistrian origin and lives a big part of the year in the Middle East where he feels more at home than in Italy. As a twen he fought in the Russin army during the two Chechnyan operations. 
In MoA it is a mantra with a lot of commentators: why are the Chinese and Russians not doing more? Well, there is not just the deliveries that have taken place and are taking place. It is also a question of people involved.
He believes that some Russian pilots fly the new planes the Iranians got from Russia. That also happened in the Korean War. Russian pilots served in Chinese uniforms in the airforce. These pilots have taken leave from the Russian military for some time or are retired. They are there in “their own name”. Why not? There are American pilots off duty flying F16s in Ukraine, the NYT told us. 
Another important contribution is the Rosatom staff guarding nuclear power plants and trying to prevent the worst, i.e. attacks on reactors. Rosatom asked them to come back but a big part of the staff stayed. 
So the Iranians see what true allies are.

Posted by: Teraspol | Mar 4 2026 20:55 utc | 192

Netanyahoo’s office hit again — high-ranking chancellery KIA.

Posted by: pepe | Mar 4 2026 20:58 utc | 193

ALL CAPS promises just ain’t as cappy as they used to be:
source: https://xcancel.com/waymoproblems/status/2029006357190287834
 
The Navy can’t do the escorts.
 
The escorts Trump announced in ALL CAPS hours ago.
 
The escorts that dropped oil 10%. The escorts that the DFC is insuring.
 
The Navy just told industry there’s no availability.
 
No availability. The trillion-dollar Navy.
 
The most powerful naval force in human history.
 
Eleven carriers. Hundreds of ships.
 
No availability to escort tankers through a strait the president just promised to keep open.
 
 
Because the ships are committed.
 
The two carrier strike groups in theater are committed to the air campaign and missile defense.
 
The destroyers are firing interceptors and Tomahawks. The VLS cells are emptying.
 
The ships that aren’t in theater are in other theaters that have already been stripped to feed this one. Patriots pulled from Korea.
 
The Pacific thinned. Every available asset already committed. Nothing left for escorts.
 
And Lloyd’s List reporting it. Lloyd’s List.
 
The maritime industry bible since 1734.
 
The publication that insurance companies and shipping lines read to assess risk. Lloyd’s List telling the shipping industry that the Navy said no.
 
The escorts aren’t coming. The promise is empty. The ALL CAPS was a press release not an operational commitment.
 
 
The DFC insurance that Trump announced. Insuring tankers through a strait the Navy can’t escort them through. Insurance without protection.
 
The policy without the police. The guarantee backed by nothing except a tweet.
Oil dropped 10% on the announcement. The market believed the escorts were coming. The market priced the promise.
 
Lloyd’s List just told the market the promise is empty. When this hits the trading desks the 10% comes back.
 
And then some. Because the market just learned that the president promised something the Navy told industry it can’t deliver.
 
 
The Navy telling industry not the public. Not a press conference. Not a CENTCOM briefing.
 
A quiet communication to industry officials.
 
The truth delivered privately to the people who need it for business decisions while the public gets ALL CAPS.
 
The shipping companies know the escorts aren’t coming.
The insurance companies know.
The trading desks will know by morning.
The public will know last.
No availability.
 
Two words that contain the entire naval situation.
 
The fleet committed. The VLS cells emptying.
 
The escorts impossible. The promise empty. The strait closed.
 
The oil not flowing.
 
The ALL CAPS meeting reality.
Trump promised escorts. The Navy said no availability.
 
Cooper said combat power building. The Navy said no ships available.
 
The dashboard says free flow of energy.
 
The Navy says we can’t.
Believe the Navy. The Navy knows what ships it has.
 
The Navy knows they’re committed.
 
The Navy knows the VLS cells are emptying.
 
The Navy knows the reload problem.
 
The Navy told industry the truth it can’t tell the president.
 
 
No availability. The fleet’s epitaph for the escort plan.
 
Born in ALL CAPS. Died in a quiet message to Lloyd’s List.
 
Lived for hours.
 
The shortest-lived military operation in history.
 
Announced and impossible on the same day.
 
^^^^posted early in the previous (eventually 1000+ post thread)
b musta missed it, cause the only “escorts” available are in Dubai brothels.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 4 2026 20:58 utc | 194

@ ChatNPC | Mar 4 2026 20:53 utc | 196
 
B-52 can launch cruise missiles. They also can launch GPS guided glide bombs with ranges up to 100 km (or even longer distances).

Posted by: NoName | Mar 4 2026 20:59 utc | 195

Start at the beginning, The attack on the kindergarden was by Israel not the US. It was designed to oblige the Iranians to reply. Which they did within the hour. Why trump and others are saying “they” were responsible is beyond me. Netanyahu effectively forced the US into the war.
 
 
The Zio “plan” was then that the Iraians would attack in the same manner as in the 12 day conflict, aim directly at Israel with large numbers of missiles, which they did NOT do. Most of the air fleets and AD defensives were located around Israel and Jordan.They attacked US bases around the Gulf. Remember that US troops were hidden (or based) in hotels to conceal their numbers. The Iranians knew this and even which hotels and which floors they were on. By hitting the bases IR reduced the ability of the US to use close combat air. Most of the bombs dropped since are “stand-off” including on the “Kurdish” front at the moment.
 
 
The present situation has not stopped to evolve, and increases the areas used as a battlefield. This is NOT a SMO, confined to one area or country. The news about the Russians (as we are here) is that Putin has signed for and will increase it’s armed forces, (all types) from 1.5 million to 2.5 million. The Chinese are almost certainly in Iran to try out new weapons. The IDF in Israel are doing the same (Laser AD has been seen). A Small US, probably special forces group, was said to be on the ground somewhere, (SouthEast IR?) probably to contact, or act as, a local terrorist organisation.
 
 
The whole thing will probably revolve on the economic abilities of the various sides to keep afloat. Russia (Putin) is openly thinking of cutting ALL oil and Gas (to the EU?) rather than wait for some idiots like Vdl/Kallas to do it for them. The Gulf States, whose “Monarchies” have fled, leaving the “workers” (Not necessarily citizens, as I was told when in SA in the 70’s, that “all manual work was beneath the Muliims and should be done by others”.) They will have an enormous problem to restart (if ever) their societies, if the cash is no longer flowing.
 

Patricia Marins
 

@pati_marins64

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Mar 3

The Astronomical Daily Costs of the US-Israel-Iran War: Billions and Counting The escalating conflict between the United States, Israel, and Iran, now in its fourth day as of March 3, 2026, has unleashed not only military and humanitarian devastation but also staggering economic burdens.
 
Daily costs for the primary belligerents and affected regional players are running into the multi-billion-dollar range, driven by intense military operations, defensive expenditures, infrastructure damage, and widespread economic disruptions.
 
For Israel, earlier phases of direct confrontation with Iran (such as the 12-day war in June 2025) provide a benchmark. Direct operational costs, covering aircraft fuel, maintenance, sortie generation, and offensive munitions, were estimated at around $700 million per day.
 
However, when factoring in the high price of defensive interceptors (David’s Sling, Arrow 2-3, Patriots, SM-3, SM-6, and THAAD) plus structural damages from missile impacts, the total surged to approximately $2 billion per day.
 
In the current escalation, with heavier barrages and sustained strikes, comprehensive daily figures, including operations, interceptors, and repairs, could easily exceed $4 billion for the US due to intelligence operations, high numbers of Tomahawk missiles used, and heavy damage to local military bases. Notably, damage to the base in Qatar has reportedly cost more than $10 billion.
 
Combining these, the US-Israel side alone may be incurring $4-5 billion daily in costs during the last three days. The ripple effects extend sharply to Arab Gulf countries (UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain), where airspace closures, airport shutdowns, and retaliatory strikes have crippled aviation hubs, creating impacts over $1 billion per day in direct losses. When adding secondary economic hits (tourism collapse, energy market chaos, supply chain interruptions), Gulf states could face an additional $3-4 billion daily in combined damages.
 
 
Altogether, the combined daily toll from US and Israeli military expenditures to Gulf economic fallout, could reach $7–10 billion per day or more, if other economic sectors are considered, a figure that aligns with analyst warnings of attritional warfare burning through resources at an unsustainable pace.

 
The extension of naval drones into the Med, (on a Russian LNG carrier by Ukraine from Libya), should make the UK and France think twice before sending underarmed and without sufficient AD capital ships there.
 
 
aaand the Houthi Government has not even entered the war yet. A last key point is that US ships have to be reloaded in port (vertically), which at the moment is Diego Garcia, a long way away.

Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 4 2026 21:02 utc | 196

The US government and Pentagon did not think out the attack? Moron kurds being activated to commit suicide against the Iranian government at the last minute? Trump talking crazy nonsense like escorting shipping through the strait? Even crazier stuff like US boots on the ground when anyone with the slightest understanding of US force levels in the region know it would take half a year of build-up to make that even a remote possibility? Warmonger Rubio furious with the zios? What does it all mean?
 
 
 
Well, we can assume everyone in the Administration and the Pentagon are a bunch of idiots who leap before looking. This view is compatible with the delusions of a certain population that is victim to a particular mass psychogenic illness. They find this view comforting since it means that simply changing which team has the ball in the US political show will fix everything.
 
 
 
Or we could assume that the Administration never really intended things to turn into a shooting war and the whole naval and air power buildup was just a bluff to add leverage to imperial bluster. But then something happened and the bluff was called. But who called it? Not the Iranians, of course. I think it is fairly obvious who forced the Empire’s hand, but I will leave that as a question for discussion. I’ll just say that it is a really bad idea to bluff like that when you are partnered with the very most psychotic of psychopaths.
 
Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 4 2026 18:20 utc | 46
Excellent point, as usual, Gruff.  I’m sensing the same thing.  Double good as you immediately triggered all the closet supporters of the Imperialist genocidal Democratic Party.  Keep flushing those insideous agents of Imperialism out!
Several commentators I typically respect are convinced Trump will be impeached by the Zio Dems for attacking Iran on behalf of their common master.   Just sad how even intelligent people so desperately cling to the idea that the Dems are some lesser evil or opposition to Trump.  Truly remarkable.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 4 2026 21:03 utc | 197

So far I am very disappointed by the responses from Russia and China. China is concerned about business in its usual focus on materialism, it does not understand the necessity of a spiritual war against the empire. A Russian tanker heading to China was taken out by “Ukraine” which really means UK/USA. Russia is still talking to the Witkoff-Kushner moving circus, after their duplicity has been exposed – Putin is either a fool or compromised by Zionists. If Iran is allowed to fall, Russia and China are 100% next and the multipolar world will be put on hold. The Venezuelan puppet called up the UAE and told him Venezeula stands with UAE. Modi went to Israel before the attack. Israel is invading Lebanon and West Bank as we speak. The US pushed Nouri al Maliki to withdraw his presidential bid in Iraq’s upcoming election. An Iranian vessel just sank in Sri Lanka. The US is cornering the global oil market, by taking Middle Eastern oil off the table, the world turns to American oil and dependence. China is an untested military power and they dislike risk. They will buckle and do a deal with the empire. I think our hopes of the empire collapsing are pre-mature. They control the Middle East and Europe firmly, as chaotic as it is – through chaos they rule. Only Iran stands in their way and now I hear Kurdish groups are poised to invade Iran from Iraq. China and Russia are too soft. The Soviet Union was a far more anti imperialist force than Russia, they wold have already put their forces in Iran or deployed them near Iran for support. I’m afraid the Zionists are going to destroy the Haram al Sharif, and nothing will stop them.

Posted by: Persian Dreams | Mar 4 2026 21:08 utc | 198

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 4 2026 21:03 utc | 203 What is truly remarkable is praising, even quoting, a comment that presumes Democrats are in fact in opposition to Trump while pretending to criticize others for presuming Democrats are in fact in opposition. I suppose pretenses to literacy are a small sacrifice justified by the need to attack Trump’s designated enemies. People like this keep making me reconsider the Moscow trials. 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 4 2026 21:12 utc | 199

Apparently another US-Special forces operation is currently ongoing in the Al-Salibat area in southern Iraq.

Posted by: Fredrick | Mar 4 2026 21:13 utc | 200